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Awesome Approach, Splendid Scenery: LIS, FNC & TAP  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 22042 times:



Background
My girlfriend and I had wanted to visit Madeira for a long time and in January an attractive package tour caught our attention: The vacation would include three days in Lisbon and seven days on Madeira - and all four flights would be operated by TAP Portugal which was still missing in my log. We decided to go in mid-June and finally booked the tour.





Monday, 14 June 2010
Munich (MUC) - Lisbon (LIS)
TAP Portugal TP557
12:55-15:05 (13:18-15:22)
Flying time: 02:46 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 27B

Airbus A320-214
CS-TNK (MSN 1206), named "Teófilo Braga"
Delivered in 04/2000


1st flight on CS-TNK
32nd A320-200 flight
33rd A320 flight
57th A32X flight
96th airline



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We had checked in online in the evening before and selected seats in row 27, so there was no need to hurry at the airport. After dropping off the luggage we went to the gate where we would soon watch the arrival of CS-TNK, one of 17 A320s in the TAP fleet:



Boarding commenced on time and a friendly flight attendant welcomed us at the door. The plane - unlike some younger sister ships - was still equipped with (rather worn) old-style leather seats. The seating comfort was sufficient, though.



Legroom was acceptable, too:



After most passengers had taken their seats (load factor 80-90 percent), some announcements were made. The very flight attendant's German was in need of improvement, but I guess all passengers understood what she meant. Interestingly, she referred to TP550 instead of TP557. And what I also found remarkable was the statement that the number of alcoholic drinks would be limited. Probably they had had some issues with drunk passengers recently?

Anyway, we took off slightly late into the cloudy Bavarian skies:



I knew we would receive a hot meal/snack on that relatively long European flight, but I wasn't happy when I got this box:



The hot (sort of) ham and cheese sandwich didn't look appetizing - and it wasn't easy to unwrap:



However, the sandwich tasted better than expected and the muffin as well as the white wine weren't bad either:



The plane was equipped with foldout screens, but I didn't care about the TV comedy features shown most of the time. Unfortunately, the airshow didn't appear very often:





While walking around in the cabin I grabbed some postcards. The picture even showed CS-TNK - which was a coincidence, of course:



Some 20 minutes prior to landing the captain talked to us for the first time, giving basic information about the arrival. During approach we enjoyed great views of Lisbon. Here's Portela Airport...



...and here's the 25 de Abril Bridge:









We touched down after a flying time of 2 hours and 46 minutes and came to stop next to A319 CS-TTI:


After grabbing our luggage, we were welcomed by the local tour guide and brought to the Holiday Inn near Alameda metro station. The building is a bit outdated, but the rooms were nice and the service was really good.


Impressions from Lisbon and its Environs
On the next day we took part in a city tour and visited Lisbon's most important sights. Here's the Belém area with the Jerónimos Monastery...



...the Discoveries Monument...



...and the Belém Tower:



Of course we took a ride on the famous Tram 28 through steep and narrow streets - that's really recommendable:





The Santa Justa Elevator (finished in 1902) connects the lower streets of the Baixa with the higher Carmo Square:



Once you reach the top you can enjoy splendid views of downtown Lisbon:







Our favorite place in the city was the Holiday Inn's rooftop pool area...



...which offered great views of the surrounding area...





...and turned out to be ideally located for plane spotting. What's better than logging registrations from a deck chair?  Wink



The Campo Pequeno bullring was only a stone's throw away from our hotel. It was a popular meeting place during the FIFA World Cup:



On the next day we made a trip to Sintra, Cascais and Estoril. Sintra, a UNESCO World Heritage Site, is a truly beautiful town:









This is the Cabo da Roca, the westernmost point of mainland Europe - and probably the windiest place I have ever been to:


On the next day we spent some more hours on the hotel’s fabulous rooftop terrace before checking out and going to the airport.




Thursday, 17 June 2010
Lisbon (LIS) - Madeira (FNC)
TAP Portugal TP1627
14:00-15:50 (13:58-15:39)
Flying time: 01:30 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 21F

Airbus A319-111
CS-TTA (MSN 750), named "Vieira da Silva"
Delivered in 12/1997


1st flight on CS-TTA
14th A319-100 flight
58th A32X flight



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Two hours prior to departure we were dropped off at the new low-cost-style Terminal 2 which is used for scheduled domestic flights (including Madeira and Azores). In order to avoid getting stuck in a long queue with our fellow tour group members we had already checked in online in the evening before. However, numerous counters were staffed and we already got our boarding passes ten minutes later.

The gate area is located on ground level and viewing options weren't optimal, but I was able to log registrations of all departing and numerous arriving planes:



Boarding commenced on time and a bus brought us to the aircraft - even though the walking distance would have been quite short. I was pleased to see that our flight would be operated by CS-TTA, the first of 19 A319s delivered to TAP:



The seats were the same ones as on the A320 three days ago...





...and legroom was identical, too:


However, the nearest foldout screen didn't work and after swinging in and out a few times it disappeared for the rest of the flight. The load was in the 60 to 70 percent range and the aisle seat in our row remained empty.

We left the gate early and passed two good old A310s, one operated by SATA Int'l, the other one by HiFly:



...and here you can see a part of yet another A310, operated by White:



Some minutes later we took off from runway 03 and passed the 17.2 km-long Ponte Vasco da Gama, the longest bridge in Europe:



TAP still serves free drinks and snacks on the domestic flights to Madeira:


While the (cold) ham and cheese sandwich tasted quite good, the muffin was a bit dry. The Sagres beer wasn't bad, though.

Almost there:



Thick clouds over the ocean near Madeira:



Prior to the trip I had been wondering for a long time whether I should choose seats on the right or the left side for the infamous approach to Funchal Airport. I had finally selected seats on the right side and I was glad about that decision when I discovered Madeira's rocky coast:



This is Caniçal which used to be one of the last European bases for whalers:



I was expecting a straight approach to runway 23, but it got even better: We would pass the airport, turn right and land on runway 05:



When the runway got expanded, it had to be put on stilts, making the whole thing look like an oversized aircraft carrier, with water at both ends of the runway:



Awesome approach:





Funchal Airport is also famous for wind shear and go-arounds, but our final approach was quite smooth. Only a few more moments to go:



We touched down after a flying time of 1 hour and 30 minutes and back-taxied to the terminal:





It wasn't very busy at the airport in the afternoon, only an Air Berlin 737-800 and a SATA Air Acores DHC-8-200 were parked on the apron:


After we had grabbed our luggage, a bus brought us to the Hotel Panoramico situated in the western hillside of Funchal.


Impressions from Madeira
The four-star hotel's exterior is unimpressive, but the modernized interior is quite nice and the rooms are very comfortable. We were also satisfied with the friendly service and the food - but what we liked most were the superb views of the sea, the bay and the surrounding mountains:



Pool terrace:



There's a lot to see on the island so we made several tours. During a Funchal city tour we visited the market hall where you can buy fresh tuna...



...or (deep sea) black scabbard fish:



Countless vendors offer fruit, vegetables and - of course - flowers:







2500 exotic plants can be found in the city’s Botanical Garden:







During a day trip we visited several sights in the eastern part of Madeira. One of them is the Pico do Arieiro, the island's third highest peak. The scenery was breathtaking:











Viewpoints on the eastern shore:





The village of Santana is characterized by small triangular houses that are built of natural stone and thatched with straw:



High cliffs can be found at Ponte de São Lourenço which is the easternmost peninsula of Madeira:



Levada walking belongs to the most popular activities on the island - there's a big choice of trails and all of them offer great views of the beautiful landscape:





During the Atlantic Festival which usually takes place in June you can witness a fireworks contest in Funchal, comprising of four 20-minute shows. I took this picture during the show on 19 June:



The 15-minute ride on the cable car to Monte is a great way to get a good perspective of Funchal and the surrounding area:









Monte's main church:



Stunning views from Monte:





Back in Funchal we walked through the old parts of the city. This is the pretty Banco de Portugal building:



On the last day we took part in a whale and dolphin watching trip on the "Bonita da Madeira":





You never know if and how many animals show up - but cruising through the crystal blue ocean and being able to see the island from the sea was already worth it:



We didn't see any whales, but some dolphins kept swimming around our boat for a while - really nice experience:


During our stay we also made an enjoyable trip to the neighboring island of Porto Santo by ship and plane, but I'll write a separate report about that.




Thursday, 24 June 2010
Madeira (FNC) - Lisbon (LIS)
TAP Portugal TP1626
16:35-18:10 (16:27-18:01)
Flying time: 01:26 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 21F

Airbus A319-111
CS-TTH (MSN 917), named "António Sérgio"
Delivered in 11/1998


1st flight on CS-TTH
15th A319-100 flight
59th A32X flight



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Two hours prior to departure were dropped off at the terminal. Our local tour guide accompanied us to the check-in counters and even assisted during the check-in process - I guess non-experienced travellers appreciate that. Of course she was surprised when she heard that we had already checked in online. Once we had received the boarding passes we passed security and went to the observation deck. Actually there are two facilities - one for the public and one for passengers.



SATA Air Acores DHC-8-200 and (ex-GB Airways) easyJet A320:



TAP A319 touching down on runway 05 - our plane for the flight to Lisbon:



It was CS-TTH, delivered in November 1998:



The easyJet A320 finally took off - more than three hours late:



Boarding commenced on time and I managed to take some pictures without being seen by the ground staff who had asked a fellow tour group member to stop one week earlier:



I didn't take any more seat pictures this time, because the interior was identical to that on CS-TTA. The load factor was in the 75-85 percent range and again the aisle seat remained empty. Takeoff was powerful as expected...



...and the plane turned right almost immediately after lifting off:



30 minutes after takeoff the flight attendants served a cold snack. I still don't know exactly what the sandwich was filled with - creamy stuff with fish - but it tasted quite good:



The flight attendants were really friendly, but a tall male had a tough job on this flight. Some teenage girls belonging to a handball team permanently tried to flirt with him - by asking questions, repeatedly pressing the call button and even handing out to him small pieces of paper. He remained friendly, but it was obvious that he was pissed off by the girls' childish behavior.

I hadn't taken a cabin picture on the two other TAP flights, so it was about time:



Back again over the European continent:



We touched down after a flying time of 1 hour and 26 minutes, taxied to a remote parking position and stopped next to a PGA Embraer 145:


During the bus ride to Terminal 1 I spotted CS-TNK being parked at a gate and I was really hoping that it wouldn't operate our flight to Munich. However, after leaving the bus I discovered a flight departures screen which even showed the registrations - and I was glad to see we would get CS-TNI and not the same bird again.




Thursday, 24 June 2010
Lisbon (LIS) - Munich (MUC)
TAP Portugal TP552
19:05-23:15 (19:18-00:06)
Flying time: 03:33 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 27B

Airbus A320-214
CS-TNI (MSN 982), named "Aquilino Ribeiro"
Delivered in 05/1999


1st flight on CS-TNI
33rd A320-200 flight
34th A320 flight
60th A32X flight



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The gate area was crowded in the early evening, but at least I found a good spot at a window and could log some more registrations. Some time later another bus brought us to the aircraft:



CS-TNI was equipped with the same interior as CS-TNK and the two A319s. However, I finally took some pictures of TAP's safety video. Real crew members...



...were soon replaced by alien-like green figures:



Despite the good load (70-80 percent) the aisle seat had remained empty again - for the fourth consecutive time on that trip. We left the gate slightly delayed and took off from runway 03. Taking pictures against the sun wouldn't have made sense at all.

Shortly after takeoff the captain made an announcement, but it was hard to understand. However, I had clearly heard that the flight would take 3 hours and 30 minutes which was very unusual. Our MUC-LIS flight took only 2 hours and 46 minutes and that had even been west-bound. Some time later the airshow confirmed that our flight would indeed take longer than usual:



The well-known snack box was served again on this evening flight, containing a hot ham sandwich and a muffin:



After the flight attendants had completed dinner service I went to the galley and asked them about the reason for the routing. A friendly male flight attendant confirmed what I had assumed - he referred to a strike in France, adding that similar actions had been affecting TAP's operations several times recently. It was really interesting to see how we flew around French airspace:




After a flying time of 3 hours and 33 minutes we touched down at Munich Airport and arrived at the gate shortly after midnight, almost an hour late.



Conclusion
TAP Portugal offers a decent product on European and domestic routes. The seating comfort was sufficient - however, I cannot comment on the newer A320s' interior. Unlike many other European carriers, TAP has equipped its narrowbody fleet with TV screens which can be rated positively. It was good to see that TAP still serves snacks and drinks - even alcoholic ones - free of charge. The food quality was okay, but some more variety would be welcome. In contrast to other posters here, I was positively surprised about the staff: the vast majority flight attendants was friendly and motivated, and I cannot complain about the ground staff either. No doubts, I wouldn't hesitate to fly TAP again.



Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
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The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332
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[Edited 2010-10-30 07:30:41]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
59 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21972 times:

Hi PH,

Excellent installment with lots of high quality pictures. I was deeply impressed by your non aviation pictures. I was thinking while browsing your report that I was reading a travel guide. But no, it is just another PH's trademark.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Impressions from Lisbon and its Environs

Beautiful! They bring back the nice memories of my own visit four years ago.

Nice to know you had better experience with TAP. Except for FNC, you seemed not to get thwarted taking pictures.

Thanks for sharing this marvelous trip.

Cheers,
Suryo



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User currently offlineAI151 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 303 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21907 times:

Hi PH,

Yet another fabulous TR to read from you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The hot (sort of) ham and cheese sandwich didn't look appetizing - and it wasn't easy to unwrap:

Definitely looks disgusting but I'm sure it tasted nice. Shame about the initial presentation of it though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
One of them is the Pico do Arieiro, the island's second highest peak.

WOW! The pictures are stunning. How high up were you exactly as it was above the clouds. Look's spectacular.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Our local tour guide accompanied us to the check-in counters and even assisted during the check-in process - I guess non-experienced travellers appreciate that. Of course she was surprised when she heard that we had already checked in online.

LOL! Has she never seen a frequent flyer before?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, after leaving the bus I discovered a flight departures screen which even showed the registrations - and I was glad to see we would get CS-TNI and not the same bird again.

That's one thing I hate. Travelling on the same aircraft twice on one trip is something I don't like. That's why I was so happy when I got both KU's B772's on my trip to New York.

Looking forward to your next trip.

Sandeep (AI151)



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21906 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 1):
Excellent installment with lots of high quality pictures.

Thanks so much, Suryo, your feedback is highly appreciated.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 1):
I was deeply impressed by your non aviation pictures. I was thinking while browsing your report that I was reading a travel guide. But no, it is just another PH's trademark.

I'm glad you liked them. Unfortunately, there won't be many destination pictures in the next few reports.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 1):
Beautiful! They bring back the nice memories of my own visit four years ago.

Good to hear!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 513 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21884 times:

Hi PH

very nice TR with many intersting pictures. Madeira and LIS both look very attractive as an holiday destination.
TAP looks very good for some intra-european flights.
Thanks again for sharing

Johannes


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21866 times:

Hi PH,

Great report and fantastic pictures - from your flights and from your travel experiences on the ground as well. Lisbon and the Isle of Madeira both seem to be great destinations with lots of things to see and do.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
And what I also found remarkable was the statement that the number of alcoholic drinks would be limited. Probably they had had some issues with drunk passengers recently?

Interesting indeed - I haven't yet heard such a statement on any flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Once we had received the boarding passes we passed security and went to the observation deck. Actually there are two facilities - one for the public and one for passengers.

The observation deck looks nice - quite close to the apron action.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After the flight attendants had completed dinner service I went to the galley and asked them about the reason for the routing. A friendly male flight attendant confirmed what I had assumed - he referred to a strike in France, adding that similar actions had been affecting TAP's operations several times recently. It was really interesting to see how we flew around French airspace:

Interesting routing - avoiding France isn't easy for Portuguese or Spanish carriers. That must really affect their schedules seriously.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21859 times:

Quoting AI151 (Reply 2):
Yet another fabulous TR to read from you.

Hi Sandeep, thanks a lot! It seems we posted almost at the same time some minutes ago.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 2):
Shame about the initial presentation of it though.

  

Quoting AI151 (Reply 2):
WOW! The pictures are stunning. How high up were you exactly as it was above the clouds.

We went up to the top which is 1818 meters high.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 2):
Travelling on the same aircraft twice on one trip is something I don't like. That's why I was so happy when I got both KU's B772's on my trip to New York.

Yes, you were really lucky to get both KU 777s.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 4):
very nice TR with many intersting pictures.

Hi Johannes, thanks for your reply!

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 4):
Madeira and LIS both look very attractive as an holiday destination.

No doubts about that, I can only recommend to go there.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 4):
TAP looks very good for some intra-european flights.

Yes, I hope they won't introduce a kind of low-cost model like Iberia, Spanair and other carriers in the region.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 21841 times:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5):
Great report and fantastic pictures - from your flights and from your travel experiences on the ground as well.

Servus Christoph, many thanks for your feedback! I was still writing while you were posting.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5):
Lisbon and the Isle of Madeira both seem to be great destinations with lots of things to see and do.

Yes, Lisbon and Madeira cater for all tastes.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5):
The observation deck looks nice - quite close to the apron action.

It's a nice place, but I guess it can become quite boring sometimes.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5):
Interesting routing - avoiding France isn't easy for Portuguese or Spanish carriers. That must really affect their schedules seriously.

Absolutely - and they need to load lots of extra fuel.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 720 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21704 times:

Hi PH,

excellent report with awesome pictures. Definitely makes me want to go there as well  

TAP seems to offer a good product, always nice to get a warm snack, even if it is just a sandwich.

Interesting routing on your way back. It seems to me that a southernly route over the mediteranean and Italy would have been shorter while still avoiding french airspace, but then I guess they knew what they were doing.

So, thank you for sharing this trip with us
CaptainRed


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21665 times:

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
excellent report with awesome pictures.

Thanks a lot, CaptainRed!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
Definitely makes me want to go there as well

I'm sure you'd like it!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
TAP seems to offer a good product, always nice to get a warm snack, even if it is just a sandwich.

Yes, and alcoholic drinks were also available free of charge.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
It seems to me that a southernly route over the mediteranean and Italy would have been shorter while still avoiding french airspace, but then I guess they knew what they were doing.

Probably that airspace was already too crowded, who knows.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1261 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21623 times:

I loved Madeira but even in 1 week I could not see everything and relax at the same time. Your report makes me want to go back. Thanks.

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21559 times:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
Your report makes me want to go back. Thanks.

Nice to hear you liked it!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
I loved Madeira but even in 1 week I could not see everything and relax at the same time.

I can only agree, one week is not enough if you want to see all interesting places. We didn't make a tour to the western part of the island, definitely something to do during our next stay.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1354 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21542 times:

Hey PH,

Fantastic report! Very interesting read with great photos.

I wanted to make the exact same trip that you had - Lisbon and Madeira in september, but getting there from Israel was expensive and would require long connections in Europe (getting to LIS alone was $450) so we passed it and choose Malta eventually, as you know.

Great job, as usual.

LY

[Edited 2010-10-30 10:04:13]


"In Israel, on order to be a realist, one's must believe in miracles" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21511 times:

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 12):
Fantastic report! Very interesting read with great photos.

Thanks a lot, Jonathan, great to hear you liked it.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 12):
I wanted to make the exact same trip that you had - Lisbon and Madeira in september, but getting there from Israel would require long connections in Europe (getting to LIS alone was $450) so we passed it and choose Malta eventually, as you know.

That would have been quite expensive indeed. Which carrier would you have flown to LIS? Malta was a nice alternative, I guess.


PH



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21508 times:

Hi PH,

It's always a delight to read TRs on Madeira with that stunning approach into FNC and yours is no exception. Thanks for posting so many non-aviation pics as well. I particularly like the ones of your trip into the mountains.

You certainly got a long flight for your money on the LIS-MUC leg! Although like Christoph, I'm wondering why you didn't fly over the Med?

That first sandwich on TAP looked a bit grim but apart from that they seem to offer a decent service.

Happy flying
Infodesk



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User currently offlineTravelsUK From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21460 times:

Many thanks for a great TR, it brought back many good memories from when I lived and worked in Madeira. TAP were always my airline of choice when I needed to get off the island and always found the service to be very good.

Thanks again and

Cheers!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21421 times:

Quoting infodesk (Reply 14):
It's always a delight to read TRs on Madeira with that stunning approach into FNC and yours is no exception. Thanks for posting so many non-aviation pics as well.

Hi Hannah, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 14):
I particularly like the ones of your trip into the mountains.

They belong to my favorites, too. That mountain is a great place.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 14):
You certainly got a long flight for your money on the LIS-MUC leg! Although like Christoph, I'm wondering why you didn't fly over the Med?

That's a good question. Probably that airspace was already too crowded.

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 15):
Many thanks for a great TR, it brought back many good memories from when I lived and worked in Madeira.

Thanks a lot, Nick!

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 15):
TAP were always my airline of choice when I needed to get off the island and always found the service to be very good.

I hadn't been sure what to expect prior to the trip, but I was pleasantly surprised.


PH



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User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21418 times:

Hi PH,
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your trip report. It brought fond memories of my own visit to Lisbon in August. Your photos of Sintra show a big contrast to when I was there. The traffic was banked up for miles and the place was crowded. Isn't the monastery with its Manueline architecture impressive?

I haven't yet reached Madeira, but your report makes me want to go there. Thanks for sharing your trip with us.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 21392 times:

Quoting Quokka (Reply 17):
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your trip report.

Hi Roy, I'm glad you liked it!

Quoting Quokka (Reply 17):
Your photos of Sintra show a big contrast to when I was there. The traffic was banked up for miles and the place was crowded.

That sounds bad - we went there on a Wednesday afternoon, we didn't face any such problems.

Quoting Quokka (Reply 17):
Isn't the monastery with its Manueline architecture impressive?

  

Quoting Quokka (Reply 17):
I haven't yet reached Madeira, but your report makes me want to go there.

Very good, I'm sure you'd enjoy your stay!


PH



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 21317 times:

Hey, PH,

superb pictures, nothing else expected, from you´re time in Portugal.

Both Lisbon and also Madeira is in my log, but you´re pictures show me, like some other comments, many new signs,
well done.

Also my experiences with TAP are not that bad.
Hope to see that Porto Santo story soon.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 21268 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
superb pictures, nothing else expected, from you´re time in Portugal.

Hi Markus, thanks for your reply!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
Hope to see that Porto Santo story soon.

It will be just a short report, should be online soon.


PH



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User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1354 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 21089 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 13):
That would have been quite expensive indeed. Which carrier would you have flown to LIS?


This was suppose to be KLM via AMS to Lisbon and back with AF via CDG. In the summer there are direct flights from Tel Aviv to Lisbon (operated by Sun D'or with B752) but those were even more expensive - 600 USD or so.



"In Israel, on order to be a realist, one's must believe in miracles" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1041 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 21025 times:

Fabulous trip report!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Awesome approach

What would a Madeira approach be without a landing on runway 05?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The very flight attendant's German was in need of improvement

I'm always pleased to hear flight attendants of foreign airlines doing annoucements in our language. It certainly isn't one that is very easy to learn.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Probably they had had some issues with drunk passengers recently?

Benign thought. Maybe they just think it's too costly to give out unlimited free alcohol?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...were soon replaced by alien-like green figures:

Very imaginative, isn't it?    There are far better examples of cartoon figures in airline safety videos (Virgin Group *hint*).

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
It was really interesting to see how we flew around French airspace

I love seeing odd routings on the inflight map!

Thanks for sharing your experiences and impressions with us! It has certainly been a pleasure. I'm looking forward to your LH longhaul report, by the way!



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User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3078 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 20910 times:
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As usual, awesome trip report and pictures!

Those seats look really thick and plush. Nice to hear that TAP's short-haul service is decent. I wonder what their long haul product is like.

Lisbon looks absolutely gorgeous--great topography and densely packed with beautiful architecture, situated on the coast. I'd love to visit someday.



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 20547 times:

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 21):
This was suppose to be KLM via AMS to Lisbon and back with AF via CDG.

Interesting routing, but it's too bad that these carriers don't fly widebodies to TLV.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 21):
In the summer there are direct flights from Tel Aviv to Lisbon (operated by Sun D'or with B752) but those were even more expensive - 600 USD or so.

That's a lot!

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 22):
Fabulous trip report!
Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 22):
Thanks for sharing your experiences and impressions with us! It has certainly been a pleasure.

Many thanks for your feedback, Marius!

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 22):
What would a Madeira approach be without a landing on runway 05?

Definitely less exciting!

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 22):
It certainly isn't one that is very easy to learn.

  

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 22):
There are far better examples of cartoon figures in airline safety videos (Virgin Group *hint*).

I haven't seen those yet...maybe I can find them on youtube.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 22):
I'm looking forward to your LH longhaul report, by the way!

I fear many weeks will pass until it's finished...I still need to write a few other reports.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 23):
As usual, awesome trip report and pictures!

Many thanks!

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 23):
I wonder what their long haul product is like.

You find mixed ratings about TP's long-haul product, but I'd like to try it. At least all A330s are equipped with PTVs in Y Class, I'm not sure whether the A340s have been refurbished yet.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 23):
Lisbon looks absolutely gorgeous--great topography and densely packed with beautiful architecture, situated on the coast. I'd love to visit someday.

You really should!


PH



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25 MSS658 : Excellent report Planehunter. Thanks for giving an insight of TP's domestic service, It looks like they offer an acceptable product in Y. I'm planning
26 PlaneHunter : Thanks a lot, good to hear you liked it! Very interesting, should be a nice flight. No, unfortunately. Recently it has been flying for Sporting Club
27 Post contains images N178UA : Awesome Trip Report Planehunter ! Looks like you had some great weather and inspiring views in Portugal too ! Roni and I was just talking about a Euro
28 The777Man : Fantastic report with fantastic pictures! It seems like a very nice trip! I flew on this on my only TP flight so far'; ARN-LIS in May 2007. I was in s
29 PlaneHunter : Hi Sam, thanks a lot for your nice feedback! Yes, TAP sells its Executive product on that route. Sounds like a good idea! Absolutely, would be great
30 Post contains links and images Luftfahrer : You're welcome, Those are the two that I was referring to, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ixjc5yeMU (Virgin America) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
31 Palmjet : Hi Planehunter. What a wonderful trip and pics - I think you have outdone yourself and surpassed the already very high standard from your trip report
32 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi PH, A very impressive report about your summer break to Madeira! I loved those Madeira pictures, they are just stunning and right out of a guideboo
33 Post contains images Rogerbcn : Hola PlaneHunter, Great TR, as usual. Maderira is one of those places I would like to visit in a short time, probably next summer. The approach to FNC
34 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Great stuff! Thanks, Marius! Thanks a lot, Palmjet. I'm glad that you liked it. I didn't face any problems at all on the planes - but I was discrete.
35 VonRichtofen : Hi PlaneHunter, Great report! Your pictures really make me want to visit Portugal! Cheers!
36 767747 : Hey, PlaneHunter! Great report! Your photos were fantastic, what great views you had both in Lisbon and in Madeira! I just finished reading an article
37 PlaneHunter : Many thanks, good to hear you liked it! Thanks a lot, Matthew! I'm glad you enjoyed reading. Interesting, I may order that issue. PH
38 Post contains images ronerone : What an amazing trip PlaneHunter! Lisbon and Madeira are just STUNNING! And your pictures have captured this very essence! For us around here, that re
39 Post contains images OA260 : Hey great report. A trip down memory lane for me , I did a cruise once that stopped in Lisbon and Madeira. We sailed into Lisbon under that bridge pas
40 Post contains images BA319-131 : Hi PH, Finally found the time to read, great report! - That or cost saving. - Nope, looks like it could be messy, not the greatest catering offering,
41 airbuseric : Hi PH, like Mark, I also finally had the free time to read your fantastic report. You really have a bunch of great pictures of the Madeira island and
42 PlaneHunter : Hi Roni, thanks a lot for your nice comments! Yes, too bad I couldn't try the new interior on one flight. I was being discrete, but I'm sure some FAs
43 Post contains images LH4116 : Hello there PH! Great report! Very nice to read a TAP report, they are quite few of them on the forum Your flights looked pretty nice, those seats are
44 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Hi Jonas, thanks a lot for your comments! Nice to hear from you. Yes, I think they do. Salmon or tuna, I'd say. Thanks. It's a compact, Panasonic Lum
45 NZ107 : Hi PH, Another great TR of yours, with excellent pictures of Lisbon included there too! Looks like you were really lucky with the weather too.. It loo
46 akhmad : Still I am looking forward to the reports of yours.
47 Post contains images BZNPilot : Hi PH, This is definitely one of the best reports on A.Net Very nice job. That runway at Funchal is incredible. As you said, like an over-sized aircra
48 PlaneHunter : Hi Nicholas, many thanks for your comments! You are a true enthusiast, so I'm quite sure you'll touch down on runway 05 one day! Probably Italian air
49 parton87 : Hello Planehunter! TAP looks like a good airline! Hope to have them in my log someday. Thank you for a good report! Godd pictures! madiera looks nice!
50 lukeyboy95 : Hi PH, Yet another wonderful report... I really enjoyed this account of Portugal. TAP is not an airline I would normally consider, but those snacks lo
51 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Many thanks for your comments, parton! Hi Luke, thanks a lot for your feedback! Good to hear from you. Sounds great - can we expect to see a report a
52 dtswi : Thanks planehunter for this nice report with beautiful pictures ! Congratulations. I like TAP for their reliable A/C's, good service. Please have a lo
53 PlaneHunter : Thanks for your feedback, Daniel! I really enjoyed reading, hope to see more from you. PH
54 OP3000 : Hi PlaneHunter, Very good travel report. Good air and land pics as well. I now have the Azores on my list of places to go. I've been to Lisbon, but th
55 PlaneHunter : Thanks a lot! That's bad to hear. The weather was excellent during our trip. It was a bit cloudy sometimes, but mostly sunny, really enjoyable. PH
56 Post contains images LazialeMKD : Nice report, Portugal looks really good and it has many places worth to visit. That routing on the way back was really really weird, but the explanati
57 abrelosojos : I don't know where this gem of a report was hiding because I religiously follow everything you write. Thanks for the report. Seems like TP has upped i
58 ba724 : Hi PH As always your trip reports are a joy to read and I did thoroughly enjoy it.Might I add that I think your photography is top notch,the pics are
59 PlaneHunter : Many thanks, Angel! I can only recommend to visit Portugal. Yes, something like that doesn't happen very often. Hi Alex, thanks a lot for your feedba
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