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Skyteam To Canada On The A318/A343  
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 29814 times:

Skyteam to Canada on the A318/A343



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Bonjour, dear readers,

father and son want to do one or two trips per year together.
Due to some healthy reasons around the family, it wasn´t possible earlier in the year,
when we decide at first for Arizona during the easter vacation periode.
For the summer vacation time, Canada sounds nice, not the first time for me, but for my son.

Staying a week at home, coming in from Italy


Dolomiti/Regional E-Jet Comparison + AF Upgrade (by FLIEGER67 Oct 29 2010 in Trip Reports)


it is now Tuesday morning, let´s go with the transatlantic story.



Tuesday, 24.08.2010


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Service AF 2509 operated by Air France
Scheduled: 07.20 // 08.40


The large airline alliances offer a good variety of aircraft on this route. The decision for Skyteam, with the main reason on the return leg, is quickly done, more about it later.
KL directly wins our business with the, in terms of separate fees and else, best offer this time.
Four flights booked together for the two of us, that means some 130.00
Euro´s per leg, done some three months in advance.
It´s also possible to secure and change you´re seats of choice on the
long haul legs online.
My status during the time of booking is Silver Elite and that allows us also to select from a couple of seats, not open for the non status pax.
OLCI works perfectly via KL´s website, secured the last row, 22 E/F, on the first leg, no boarding passes printed, there are the bags for the airport, so collecting the real one´s this time.
04.15 am is the setting for the cell phone alarm, at the airport at around 06.00 am, no need to park the car, my wife is doing the shuttle service.
Bags off in a minute at the biz counter, boarding passes printed and through Terminal 3 security in no time.
Here´s a first view to the screen, AF seems ontime from gate 310
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The plane at the gate from the ground floor, night stop at STR
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It is F-GUGR, the A318 like on schedule, the newest example from 18 in the AF fleet, delivery date 22.02.2007.
Leg. no 8 for me on type and a new registration.
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Anyone remember that scratching sound when the pilots prepare the AFAIK flaps,
that lasted for some ten minutes after boarding, till finally the captain is on the speakers, that there is a problem and they need to restart the planes electronic system to secure it.
That works, no further problems to notice.
Last row seating is comfortable today with the free aisle, seat recline is possible
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Nice, the purser handed out refreshment towels for every passenger at the planes door.
Turning on the active 25 today, a rolling takeoff, it is 07.25 am, nearly ontime, cloudy, 18 degrees, what seems the standard in German August 2010, no August with more rain since they ever write it down.
One hour to go now for CDG
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Cockpit crew is from France.
Cabin crew is one, nice younger male, one older male purser and a nice, middle aged female looking typical french.
All announcements in english, french and german.
The safety card, no screens, the safety demo is manual
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The clean cabin, dark blue fabric seats, legroom is ok
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The complete row for us
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Service, brioche and free drinks, the nice female offering us also later in the flight more brioches, as much as we want.
Four legs for the cabin crew today STR-CDG-LYS-CDG-TUN, interesting and a nice talkactive FA
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Impressive as always, clouds till somewhere above eastern France and from one meter to the other, so it looks like, no more clouds again.
No flightlevel or route information
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The pilot is on the speakers with arrival informations short prior to approach.
Finals for CDG
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Touchdown on the 2700 meters runway 26L, it is 08.30 am, ten minutes prior to schedule, 15 degrees only here and partly cloudy
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Sunny apron disembarking
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By bus to the terminal, arrivals into T2D.



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 29884 times:

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Service AF 342 operated by Air France
Scheduled: 11.00 // 12.35


Gate F49 is printed for the next flight, departure from Terminal 2F.
Time enough, some twenty minutes to walk and view the terminals.
Above the CDG train station
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Our flight still from F49 on the screen.
AF runs three times daily on the CDG-YUL route, thats impressive and more impressive when we see that also AC and TS have flights today
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A view to the arrivals level of T2F
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Only some two or three minutes to wait at security
and finally in the gate area.
This is MEA bound for BEY through the concrete structure
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Impressive architecture, hope it hold´s strong!
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The airy design of T2F
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Thats the AF A343 to Bogota from the gate beside
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AF retro and the tail of F-GLZT, our machine to YUL
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How I like these gate informations
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More details
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The gate, seating comfort is only limited with nearly all gates taken and lots of passengers around
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Strategic Airlines now gone, with the license revoked
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Full view of these AF A343 bound for Bogota
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Close to boarding
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Down the jetway
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The small engines
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The nose section
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Push back preparations
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Our plane F-GLZT is the scheduled A340-300, in service with AF since 28.02.2000. One of 18 in the fleet.
Leg no. 5 on type, a new registration.
Cockpit crew is from France, the pilot with a nice, short welcome during boarding.
Window view to the terminal, the safety demo plays on the small screens.
Lots of connecting pax from African destinations on the plane, so it looks like
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Widebodie departure queue from the 4200 meters runway 27L, it is 11.10 am, close to ontime, the temperature is 17 degrees and its still partly cloudy
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Cabin crew, as far as I count, is two male, one european, one african,
and eight female, four european, three african style and one from north africa. Some with a rough style, one young european female serving our part of the cabin real nice and friendly, especially for my son taking good care of him, with several times free drinks and else.
Leaving Europe for a couple of days, 7 hours to go for Canada
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AF and the cute safety cards, free headsets also on the seats
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Cabin view, legroom in the last row is ok
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Load is close to 100%, no open seat to notice, once more good business
for AF.
The menue card looks nice
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And the offers today
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Something to drink
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My last view to France
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The cabin
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The small inseat screen shows the entertainment offers
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Some movies here
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Heading for the UK
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Leaving England
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First service, snacks and drinks
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In direction Ireland
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The seat, 48 A/B, last row, two seater, recline is possible
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The main service take one: Chicken
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And take two: Fish
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Well, some good friend here calls me a "picky eater",
that´s definitely the case, both, the chicken and much more, the fish, isn´t
from our personal favourite choice.
But the bread rolls, we had some more later, the camembert cheese and also the apple cake, real good.
Leaving Ireland for the Atlantic
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South of Iceland, flight level maxium is 40000 feet
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Clouds all the way above the Atlantic
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The cabin
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South of Greenland
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Clear sky
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Labrador on the map
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The flight is calm till we reach Canada, rough air above Labrador and finally better close to Montreal.
A first view into Canada
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Newfoundland
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And finally Quebec
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The pre arrival snack
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Along the St. Lawrence bay
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Montreal on the map
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The pilot is once again on the speakers with arrival informations, short prior to descent.
And now that´s Montreal
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Finals over water
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Short finals with a long cargo train
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Just landed at 12.25 am, ten minutes ahead to schedule, that´s 6.25 pm in Germany.
The temperature is 25 degrees, pretty nice, some clouds only and touchdown is soft
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Leaving the active 2926 meters runway 06R
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Now that´s a nice first impression at the terminal
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AC terminal area
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Air Iniut with the 732
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Spaceship Orion somewhere around the corner?
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Apron parking and disembarking
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Engine view
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The fuselage
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And the two small engines
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Leaving my machine
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The final reg shot
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The Air Inut B732 on the apron
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The flight is ontime, some ten minutes only at immigration, the female officer want to see a written permission from my wife that I´am alone on travel with my son, well, next time, no question and also baggage ist quick.
That mean´s we´re way to early for the prebooked rental car pickup time.
The arrangement is done via emietwagen/traveljigsaw, the car is from Thrifty,
some 210.00 Euro´s, ok, so far.
Some negotiations with the guy there and we´re ready to collect the car now and bring it back during our original scheduled time, that means some three hours extension and nothing to pay for, nice.
A nearly new Toyota Matrix, well done
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Heading for Quebec City now, Canada is also this time, in reality much larger than it feels on the map, arrival at the hotel in the afternoon.
The Ambassadeur at Beauport will host us for three nights, some 70.00 Euro´s per night, it´s easy to reach a couple of targets from here.
The bedroom
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The bathroom
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And its large indoor pool area
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The hotel is somewhat oldfashioned, but acceptable, what I dislike is the large number of tour groups,
in and out, every day, mostly from Japan, but also from Italy and Spain.

Target´s for example:

On the whale way
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The whale watching station near Tadoussac
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Visitors today
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Whales ahead
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Action out there
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Sainte Anne de Beaupre
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Canyon St. Anne
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Looks like people flying
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With one of the longest suspension bridges around Canada
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A view down there
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The lower one and see the people in the upper right corner, pretty high
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And its also easy to go for a city view:

Ferry action
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Ferry crossing to Levis
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And back to Quebec City
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No, that´s not Paris
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The escalator up to the Chateau Frontenac
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The escalator
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On the terrace
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Le Chateau
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My impression about AF is ok, both flights ontime, no baggage lost, acceptable eco service and personal attention for us, sorry my son, on the long haul flight.
Also from a price/earning point of view, ok around the summer vacation time.

After three nice nights in Quebec City, we´re ready to head in northwestern direction for

"Beavers, bears and the MD11 YUL-AMS",

stay tuned, coming up soon.

Dont forget Facebook,
"Markus Klaus Felger", thats me!.

Comments welcome,
FLIEGER67



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29639 times:

Nice detailed report, Thanks for sharing. I'm still surprised that the seats on the 343 have yet to been refurbished. Back in 2005 I flew on these birds between CDG and ATL (F-GLZA and F-GLZC) and found those seats to be in a horrible state.


Can't wait to see the return trip on the MD11.



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2487 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29569 times:

Hi Markus,

Finally the long awaited Canada trip of yours. A good read to start the weekend. It seems an exciting journey with many new registrations.

You must have had a fruitful time together with Markus jr. in Canada. Funny that the female official demanded to see a written permission of your wife. I am wondering if this is a standard procedure of a single adult traveling with children into the country.

AF service sounds great again. Good to know Markus jr. was good taken care of by the cabin attendants.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My status during the time of booking is Silver Elite and that allows us also to select from a couple of seats, not open for the non status pax.

Something you definitely make a grateful use of.   

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
cloudy, 18 degrees
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
The temperature is 25 degrees,

How I miss the temperature.  



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
A view down there

Not recommended for people with fear of heights.

Thanks for sharing and looking forward to your next installment.

Cheers,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlinerogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29534 times:

Hola Markus!

Again a great TR.

The impression you gave from AF is quite different to many of the ones expressed around here. They even seem to be a nice airline with nice crews all along.
The constant offerings of food and drinks is a nice touch not usually heard of nowadays.
Pictures of Québec are really nice, you seem to have spent some beautiful days around the area.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
With one of the longest suspension bridges around Canada

May I suggest you visit Capilano bridge in Vancouver next time?.... impressive!

A343 displays these engines which always seemed funny to me, I always wondered how such 'small' engines can take such a big plane on the air. They do not seem to fit, and when compared to B777....

Looking forward to reading the second part.

Salut!

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8578 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29516 times:
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Hi Markus,

Nice read, been looking forward to this.

Good your status changed to Silver, being able to choose seats is a real bonus, as are the extra benefits.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, some good friend here calls me a "picky eater",
that´s definitely the case, both, the chicken and much more, the fish, isn´t
from our personal favourite choice.
But the bread rolls, we had some more later, the camembert cheese and also the apple cake, real good.

- You, picky eater, never   Food looks pretty ok, I think I'd have taken the Chicken myself, the portions actually look a tad bigger than my AF flight last year.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the female officer want to see a written permission from my wife that I´am alone on travel with my son,

- Is this something you need? - Btw, Mini Flieger67 has got so big since the last time we saw him!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The arrangement is done via emietwagen/traveljigsaw, the car is from Thrifty,

- Those Thrifty guy's are getting big  

Looks like you enjoyed those few days there, nice pix.

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineAI151 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 303 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29472 times:

Hi Makus,

A fabulous start to your Canada trip. I'm actually surprised as Air France seemed to be quite good. Normally I always hear bad things about them, but your flights on both sectors seemed good. Food looked edible but the not the best I must admit. Good to hear that they looked after your son on the long haul flight.

What were the selections like on the IFE? The screen didn't look that appealing.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Nice, the purser handed out refreshment towels for every passenger at the planes door.

Something I haven't heard of before.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The flight is ontime, some ten minutes only at immigration, the female officer want to see a written permission from my wife that I´am alone on travel with my son, well, next time, no question and also baggage ist quick.

What was the reason for this? It seems very odd as I don't think I have heard this happening to anyone else before.

Looking forward to the next installment.

Sandeep (AI151)



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1464 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29400 times:

Hi Markus,

Great to read another TR, I was beginning to get withdrawal symtons!

It seems you had 2 solid flights on AF, good to hear. I really like those info screens at the gate, particularly where it tells you what languages they speak onboard.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
cloudy, 18 degrees, what seems the standard in German August 2010, no August with more rain since they ever write it down.

Yep, we know all about rain in August  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
AF retro and the tail

Very stylish

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, some good friend here calls me a "picky eater",

Well, if you're a picky eater I dread to think what they'd call me!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the female officer want to see a written permission from my wife that I´am alone on travel with my son, well, next time, no question

Crikey, can't you even have a trip together without being questioned?!

Enjoyed your shots of Canada and particularly love the look of those suspension bridges. Can't wait to read about the grizzly bears in the next installment.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):
Btw, Mini Flieger67 has got so big since the last time we saw him!

Yes, he's growing at an astounding rate

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 29205 times:

Hey, good to see all that comments.


@MSS658:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 2):
Nice detailed report,

Thank you.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 2):
I'm still surprised that the seats on the 343 have yet to been refurbished. Back in 2005 I flew on these birds between CDG and ATL (F-GLZA and F-GLZC) and found those seats to be in a horrible state.

Not the best comfort, but ok at all.


@Suryo:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 3):
Finally the long awaited Canada trip of yours. A good read to start the weekend. It seems an exciting journey with many new registrations.

Thank you.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 3):
Funny that the female official demanded to see a written permission of your wife. I am wondering if this is a standard procedure of a single adult traveling with children into the country.

Also my opinion, I was somewhat surprised to hear that.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 3):
AF service sounds great again. Good to know Markus jr. was good taken care of by the cabin attendants.

Sure ok, on our flight.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 3):
Something you definitely make a grateful use of.

Sure.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 3):

How I miss the temperature.

Me, too.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 3):
Not recommended for people with fear of heights.

Good point.


@Roger:

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 4):

Again a great TR.

Thank you.

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 4):
The impression you gave from AF is quite different to many of the ones expressed around here. They even seem to be a nice airline with nice crews all along.
The constant offerings of food and drinks is a nice touch not usually heard of nowadays.

Really not that bad service on our flights.

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 4):
Pictures of Québec are really nice, you seem to have spent some beautiful days around the area.

Thanx again.

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 4):
May I suggest you visit Capilano bridge in Vancouver next time?.... impressive!

Something for me.

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 4):
A343 displays these engines which always seemed funny to me, I always wondered how such 'small' engines can take such a big plane on the air. They do not seem to fit, and when compared to B777....

Thats indeed also my opinion.


@Mark:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):
Nice read, been looking forward to this.

Thank you.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):
Good your status changed to Silver, being able to choose seats is a real bonus, as are the extra benefits.

Definitely, so it is.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):
You, picky eater, never   Food looks pretty ok, I think I'd have taken the Chicken myself, the portions actually look a tad bigger than my AF flight last year.

Quantity was sure ok.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):
- Is this something you need? - Btw, Mini Flieger67 has got so big since the last time we saw him!

I will tell him.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 5):

- Those Thrifty guy's are getting big

Sure, more and more.


@Sandeep:

Quoting AI151 (Reply 6):
A fabulous start to your Canada trip. I'm actually surprised as Air France seemed to be quite good. Normally I always hear bad things about them, but your flights on both sectors seemed good. Food looked edible but the not the best I must admit. Good to hear that they looked after your son on the long haul flight.

Thank you.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 6):
What were the selections like on the IFE? The screen didn't look that appealing

Not that much, but I use the travel map the whole time.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 6):
Something I haven't heard of before.

Me, too, a nice touch.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 6):
What was the reason for this? It seems very odd as I don't think I have heard this happening to anyone else before.

Also a real surprise for me, never heard that before.


@Hannah:

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):

Great to read another TR, I was beginning to get withdrawal symtons

Thank you and I will do my best with less flying ahead to go faster.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):
It seems you had 2 solid flights on AF, good to hear. I really like those info screens at the gate, particularly where it tells you what languages they speak onboard.

Me, too, always good for further informations.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):
Yep, we know all about rain in August

Oh, well, summer in Europe.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):
Very stylish

Also my opinion.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):
Well, if you're a picky eater I dread to think what they'd call me!

Well, I know!.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):

Crikey, can't you even have a trip together without being questioned?!

Not the really amusing situation, you know.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):
Enjoyed your shots of Canada and particularly love the look of those suspension bridges. Can't wait to read about the grizzly bears in the next installment.

Coming up soon.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 7):
Yes, he's growing at an astounding rate

So it looks like.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6452 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29083 times:

Hi Markus,

Another great TR. Good to see a longer flight under your belt, that must take your average per sector length up quite a bit!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My status during the time of booking is Silver Elite and that allows us also to select from a couple of seats, not open for the non status pax.

Yet you still choose the last row!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
04.15 am is the setting for the cell phone alarm, at the airport at around 06.00 am, no need to park the car, my wife is doing the shuttle service.

Does it run in the family?  
That's another extremely early wake up, especially in terms of Canada Eastern time!


A shame about the food on the long sector.. It didn't seem too bad from the pictures.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Spaceship Orion somewhere around the corner?

Those transporters look awesome! If only every remote stand in the world had some!


Canada's on my to do list as well.. I'll get there someday!

Thanks for sharing!


Cheers,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6903 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29022 times:

Hi Markus,

interesting report about your trip to YUL, good to see you going long-haul. Your A343 had the same interior as the one on my last year's CDG-ATL flight. It's about time to refurbish those.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Push back preparations

Nice picture!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The main service take one: Chicken

The meals don't look as good as the ones I had last year.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
But the bread rolls, we had some more later, the camembert cheese and also the apple cake, real good.

Good to hear, I can confirm that.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the female officer want to see a written permission from my wife that I´am alone on travel with my son, well, next time, no question

Interesting - so she just let you go?

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 4):
The impression you gave from AF is quite different to many of the ones expressed around here. They even seem to be a nice airline with nice crews all along.

AF's long-haul product is indeed very good.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 6):
What were the selections like on the IFE?

Hi Sandeep, here you can find some details about the IFE offering on the A343s:
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL (by PlaneHunter Jul 19 2009 in Trip Reports)


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29019 times:

Hey, Nicholas,

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
Another great TR. Good to see a longer flight under your belt, that must take your average per sector length up quite a bit

Thank you and good idea, I will check it.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
Yet you still choose the last row!

Sure, it´s also blocked for standard pax.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
Does it run in the family?  
That's another extremely early wake up, especially in terms of Canada Eastern time!

Not for everone here in the family, but with the target Canada, well you know.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
A shame about the food on the long sector.. It didn't seem too bad from the pictures.

You know, the picky eater!.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):

Those transporters look awesome! If only every remote stand in the world had some!

Exactly my opinion.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 9):
Canada's on my to do list as well.. I'll get there someday!

Let me know.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29004 times:

Hey, PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
interesting report about your trip to YUL, good to see you going long-haul. Your A343 had the same interior as the one on my last year's CDG-ATL flight. It's about time to refurbish those.

Nice to see you´re feedback and indeed the interior was ok, but not that comfortable like on other flights.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Nice picture!

Thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
The meals don't look as good as the ones I had last year.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):

Good to hear, I can confirm that.

Quantity was ok and some details really good.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Interesting - so she just let you go?

Not the hard discussion, more like an advice what to do next time and well she let us go.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
AF's long-haul product is indeed very good.

And this time also better than KL on the return sector.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineMD11Bob From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 115 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 28747 times:

Hello Markus,

great report of the first part of your trip. I like those deboarding pictures, especially the one which shows the wing in detail. Very impressive. And I didn´t know that YUL also has those weird busses, I only saw them once in Washington Dulles before.

What I did not really get is the story with the immigration officer. She asked you for the written permission, you didn´t have one and she just let you go?

Looking forward for the second part of the report, and the MD-11  

Robert


User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 830 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 28671 times:

Hello Markus,

those pictures of Canada remind me great times spent overthere, you seem have enjoyed too!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Spaceship Orion somewhere around the corner?

that's a great concept, which should be more spread  

nice report btw


East African spotter



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 28577 times:

Hello Markus, great report!

Nice that you got to fly the A318 on AF. It's a pretty rare type, but it's a very nice one to fly. I prefer it much over the B736.
The food on AF looked really nice as usual. Did you get the Champagne in Y on the CDG-YUL sector?  

Really strange that the officier wanted to see a written permission from your wife. Was this a one-off, or do they always ask those silly questions?

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 28455 times:

Hey, good to follow more comments.


@Robert:

Quoting MD11Bob (Reply 13):
great report of the first part of your trip. I like those deboarding pictures, especially the one which shows the wing in detail. Very impressive. And I didn´t know that YUL also has those weird busses, I only saw them once in Washington Dulles before.

Thank you.

Quoting MD11Bob (Reply 13):
What I did not really get is the story with the immigration officer. She asked you for the written permission, you didn´t have one and she just let you go?

So it was, strange story, maybe not the best day for her.

Quoting MD11Bob (Reply 13):
Looking forward for the second part of the report, and the MD-11

Coming up soon.


@eastafspot:

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 14):
those pictures of Canada remind me great times spent overthere, you seem have enjoyed too!
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 14):
nice report btw

Thank you and it was indeed a great time.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 14):

that's a great concept, which should be more spread

Never see it before.


@Jonas:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
great report!

Nice that you got to fly the A318 on AF. It's a pretty rare type, but it's a very nice one to fly. I prefer it much over the B736.

Thank you and it was a for sure ok to fly the A318 again.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Did you get the Champagne in Y on the CDG-YUL sector?

Sure!.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Really strange that the officier wanted to see a written permission from your wife. Was this a one-off, or do they always ask those silly questions?

You expect something like this in the US, but it never happened before and we travelled a lot the last years.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 28156 times:

Hi Markus

nice to read about this trip! Hello to Miniflieger also!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Service AF 342 operated by Air France

Ah, I first thought you would fly the more interesting A342, but that would've been to good to be true of course  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the female officer want to see a written permission from my wife that I´am alone on travel with my son, well, next time,

WTF?! I expected and thought Canada was a not so difficult country, but apparently she was different. If this is a rule, one should be aware of it. Didn't you see any notice about it and how did you solve it?

Good pics, and looking forward to your experience on my homecarrier KLM.

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 28009 times:

Hoi, Eric,

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 17):
nice to read about this trip! Hello to Miniflieger also!

Good to see you´re comment and thank you, I will show it to Miniflieger.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 17):
Ah, I first thought you would fly the more interesting A342, but that would've been to good to be true of course

Good point, thats indeed an idea to fly an A342 on AF 342.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 17):
WTF?! I expected and thought Canada was a not so difficult country, but apparently she was different. If this is a rule, one should be aware of it. Didn't you see any notice about it and how did you solve it?

I dont even hear or read about something like that.
So that was my excuse, finally she accepted it and I should bring it with me, the next time.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27251 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 27938 times:

Hey Markus ,
Very nice report and photos. Glad you had good flights. Some nice pics of Canada so far, Always wanted to see Quebec/Montreal.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
a.
This is MEA bound for BEY through the concrete structure

Nice   I cant wait til my next flight with MEA .

Looking forward to the MD11  


Regards

Philip


User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 511 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 27781 times:

Hi Markus
really stunning TR.
The brioche service on the flight to CDG doesnt look bad at all.
I also find it impressive that AF can fill three planes a day to YUL.
I think the service on the CDG - YUL leg was ok, nothing special but all right for a european airline.
And your Canada pictures are really nice.
Looking forward for the Return leg  
Cheers
Johannes


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 27759 times:

Hey, more comments, nice.


@Phil:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
Very nice report and photos. Glad you had good flights. Some nice pics of Canada so far, Always wanted to see Quebec/Montreal.

Thank you and Quebec is really interesting, some more pix coming up soon.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
Nice   I cant wait til my next flight with MEA .

Me, too, reading a new MEA story.


@Johannes:

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 20):
really stunning TR.
The brioche service on the flight to CDG doesnt look bad at all.

Thank you and the service on the short flight to CDG was ok.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 20):
I also find it impressive that AF can fill three planes a day to YUL.

Me, too, one flight going to the A380 from next March on.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 20):
I think the service on the CDG - YUL leg was ok, nothing special but all right for a european airline.
And your Canada pictures are really nice.

Thanx again and the service was indeed ok.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineBZNPilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2006, 264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 27010 times:

Hi Markus,

Well, another great report as usual! Thanks very much for sharing. Great that your son has these opportunities to travel with you and see the world; he is a lucky guy!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, some good friend here calls me a "picky eater",
that´s definitely the case, both, the chicken and much more, the fish, isn´t
from our personal favourite choice.
But the bread rolls, we had some more later, the camembert cheese and also the apple cake, real good.

I know what you mean, I can be a picky eater too. From the pictures, though, the food and presentation looks above average to me...even the salad was served in a real bowl? I guess AF is just naturally better in that regard than the US carriers I'm used to taking across the pond.   That camembert sounds good...

All the best,
BZNPilot


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1895 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 26777 times:
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Hey Markus, nice report as usual. Those pictures of Canada look great and really wanna make me go there! Looking forward to the next part.

Martijn



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 26557 times:

Hey, nice to see more comments.


@BZNPilot:

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 22):


Well, another great report as usual! Thanks very much for sharing. Great that your son has these opportunities to travel with you and see the world; he is a lucky guy!

Thank you and I will show him you´re statement.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 22):
I know what you mean, I can be a picky eater too. From the pictures, though, the food and presentation looks above average to me...even the salad was served in a real bowl? I guess AF is just naturally better in that regard than the US carriers I'm used to taking across the pond.   That camembert sounds good...

AF service is not bad at all, but it´s really difficult to hit the spot with me and also my son.


@Martijn:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 23):
Hey Markus, nice report as usual. Those pictures of Canada look great and really wanna make me go there! Looking forward to the next part.

Thank you and more coming up soon.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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25 The777Man : Very nice report with very nice pictures, Markus! Air France looks very good here and that's my experience as well. Quebec City looks great as well. A
26 bastew : Thanks for the report! AF economy product looks pretty good! They seem to have kept a lot of the little nice touches that many airlines (like BA) have
27 FLIEGER67 : Hey, good to see more comments. @Lars: Thank you. We had a real nice time there and gone also lucky with the wales. Thanx for the explanation, so it s
28 Post contains images signol : Hi Markus, a fantastic report as usual I have a very similar picture, taken from just to the left - our AUH flight departed from F49 Handing out menu
29 FlyingFinn76 : Hi Markus, Great stuff, very good pictures especially from around Quebec, something which I would like to do at some point as well. I've been to Montr
30 Post contains images parton87 : Hello Markus! Thank you for another great report! Godd pictures and nice reading! Quebec looks really nice! Ohh thats too early! I really like these l
31 Post contains images FLIEGER67 : Hey, good to see more comments. @R.: Thank you. Pretty interesting, will we see some pictures, maybe you and Mr. Vettel going for champagne?. Sure it
32 Contact Air : Hi Markus, Great report and pictures about your trip with your son to Canada. Quebec looks very nice as well. Nice service. That's impressive indeed,
33 FLIEGER67 : Hi, Christoph, Thank you and indeed Quebec is well worth a visit. Also my opinion. Sure, not that really well known here in Germany, but it´s definit
34 QFKangaroo747 : Thankyou for a very enjoyable read! I look forward to the next chapter.
35 AlwaysOnAPlane : Really nice report FLIEGER67. Enjoyed you pictures and the level of detail. Air France and the A318 are yet to feature in my log so it was good to see
36 FLIEGER67 : Hey, nice to see more comments. @Daniel: Thank you and the next part coming up soon now. @Lee: Thank you. Not that easy here in Europe to catch the A3
37 Post contains images sultanils : Hello Markus Nice to see another transatlantic report from you (not that I'm bored with your other ones though ). It looks like your son & yoursel
38 FLIEGER67 : Hey, Nils and thanx for you´re feedback. Definitely. Exactly my opinion. Indeed a positive impression this day. More airlines should do this. A real
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