Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4608 posts, RR: 30 Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3945 times:
Hi there...
here is another trip report from me again! I embarked on this trip of mine in Jul 01 with Northwest Airlines and I had a ball (not the plane ride!). My journey was basically SIN-NRT-SFO, SFO-MSP-ORD, ORD-DTW-NRT-SIN (Phew!...). So I had quite a trip as you can see.
Well, here's the report!
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NW 20, SIN-NRT 6hrs 30mins, 747-200, Y Class
NW 28, NRT-SFO 9hrs 15mins, 747-200, Y Class
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My Northwest flight departed at 0630H. It's a God-forsaken hour where most of the island is still asleep and here I am making to airport at 0400H. All the American airlines that fly to Singapore leave and arrive at such wierd hours (UA and NW)!
Check in was quick because there was hardly anyone at all! Changi Airport Terminal One, where NW departs from, is deserted at this time. Proceeding through immigration, the departure hall is dead - devoid of human movement! The only people milling around was the pax departing on my flight. Shops were still closed, I do not remember hearing any piped music as well! This is my first time flying NW to the US, I previously flew JAL and they left at a more humane hour, so I found my whole quiet terminal experience rather surreal. It's normally so busy! Looking outside at the tarmac, a TG A330, and a UA 747-200 sat silently in the dark.
Proceeding to my departure gate, which was the only holding area filled with people, I found the flight pretty full. Peering outside, I realised that this was the first time I was staring at a NW 747-200 here in Singapore! What's more I am so close to its nose! I nevr had the opportunity to spot them due to their early departures - and I am still snoring in my bed!
The sky outside was still dark when we boarded. Walking past the World Business Class on my way to my seat, I saw that the only plus point for that cabin was space. Seats were pretty normal and there was no winged headrests or lumbar support.
I took my window seat 21A, which was the first row of Y Class cabin - more legroom! Yeah! The cabin was configured like a standard 747's 3 x 4 x 3. Seats were upholstered in dark blue fabric like World Business Class.
None of the footrest for Y Class like those found on SQ or MH are found on NW. No seatback PTV as well! Sigh, I guess I have been very spoilt. Looking aft, I found the seats very crammed. The leg to Tokyo/NRT was only 6.5hrs, but I was more concerned abt the NRT-SFO sector. the thought of being crammed for so long didn't appeal to me at all!
A blue tinge filled the sky as we taxied for takeoff, which was surprisingly smooth. I guess I was expecting a few bumps on this old 747-200 which I am sure its more that 15yrs old! Weather en route to Tokyo/NRT was smooth all the way. Breakfast consisted of an omelette with sausages and a small serving of Japanese udon. Green tea accompanied the meal. I must say despite my misconceptions about NW, the food was pretty good so far! The Singapore based cabin crew was cheerful and friendly. The in-flt supervisor for this flight was a Japanese female purser, neatly bunned up hair and immaculately made up, she looked very much like a doll! Faultless service on this sector which was a good start on Northwest! Unfortunately, is was to be the last sector I experienced service...
Sitting in the first row of Y Class, I had the pleasure of having the TV monitor mounted on the wall in front of me. I did not watch the movie but tried to catch some sleep instead.
I dozed off and awoke some 4 hrs later and saw that the cabin was busy with cabin crew serving some snack before landing. Fried noodles was served this time and I hungrily gobbled it all up - yum!
Narita was cloudy that afternoon. the tarmac was busy with a myriad of a/c taking off and landing. Thumping down on the runway at 1305H, I immediately caught sight of many NW tails and sombre looking UA jets. A smalttering of JAL 747-400s were scattered throughout the vast area while two distinctive silver AA 777-200 parked side by side at the terminal. We taxied to the vicinity of Satellite 4 but parked at a remote stand. I guess this is the NW terminal because we were surrounded by countless NW 747-200s and -400s.
I had a two-hour layover so that gave me a chance to explore the terminal. Walking out of the aircraft down the stairs, I was hit in the face by the stifling and humid Japanese summer. I never knew that it could be so warm! My previous trips to Tokyo was in winter. I simply love walking down the stairs next to an aircraft... simply awesome! The two giant engines 1 and 2 hung lowly from the massive wing with the blades still turning slowly. A distinctive whine still filled the surrounding despite having shut donw the engines some 5mins ago.
A bus took us to the terminal. Nothing to report here because all I saw was construction and many more NW 747s. Security checks before entering the terminal was done by personnel donning gloves - its so Japanese! A pretty normal terminal, it looked newly renovated within. I remembered Narita looking drab and metallic, but this portion was actually rather cozy! Settling down at the viewing gallery, I saw an ANA 747-400 take off. Several JAL 747-400s landed followed by 2 UA 747-400 and -200. Hmm... where are the JAL MD11s? Food and shopping is expensive so I gave that a miss.
It was time to board at 1500H so I made my way to the gate on the ground floor - wow... another remote parking bay! Must be my day, huh? Another scenic bus ride brought me to NW28. Surprise, surprise! It was the same 747-200 that flew from Singapore!
Walking up the stairs towards Door 2L, I absorbed all the sights, smells and sounds with much pleasure before stepping into the cabin of the 747-200. A frumpy and plump flt attendant stood at the door. She didn't bother with greetings because she just stood there ... didn't even take my boarding pass too! She was basically just... there Oh no, this is what they call service on NW? I found my seat 22A easily, i was just a row behind my earlier seat! Squeezing into my seat, I found the legroom slightly less that the row in front. There wasn't a lot of space between my knees and the seat in front, and I am not that tall! Sigh... take it easy... I had a long way to go!
The same smooth take off brought us into the cloudy skies and out into the Pacific Ocean. Dinner was served which consisted of seafood rice, I think. A drop in the standard of service was blatantly obvious with this batch of American cabin crew. No smiles, jusy plonking of trays in front of you and moving on. After the meal service, I never saw the cabin crew anymore until before breakfast. The sun soon set in the horizon behind me. I put my knapsack under the seat in front of me and that acted as my footrest. Trying to catch some sleep to adjust to the timezome, I could not get into a comfortable position and felt claustrophobic several times. Going to the toilet was out of the question because my two neighbours were sound asleep - even snoring!
The sun rose a short while after we crossed the international dateline, and breakfast (same omelette and sausages) was served. Looking around, I could see that the cabin was filled to the max. I used this opportunity to squeeze myself out into the aisle for a quick toilet trip. After breakfast, we began our descend into San Francisco Int'l (SFO).
Looking outside, I saw that it was overcast with a solid cloud cover. The bright sun illuminated the bed of cotton beneath me. Descend into the cluds seem to take forever and then I heard the flaps deploy. Huh? But we are still way way above the clouds! Looking carefully outside, I saw several hills poking through the clouds and could clearly see walking tracks on them! Looking at the airshow on the TV monitor ahead indicated that we were at 2500ft and descending. And we were still high above the cloud cover! Amazing...
We finally entered the clouds as we were established on a final approach. Buffeting through the clouds suddenly made the cabin darker. Looking outside, I could faintly make out the wing. The clouds soon thinned and a misty coastline appeared close to the aircraft! The runway threshold and piano keys flashed past a few seconds later and touchdown! The cloud base in SFO that morning must have been only a few hundred feet...
With reverse thrust deployed, we roared down the runway and I saw that the terminal was very quiet this time of the morning. 2 AA 767-300 and a NW DC10 were visible from where I was. Several United Shuttle 737s were scuttling around the tarmac. Taxiing for disembarkation at the international terminal was quick and we were parked next to an ATA L1011 Tristar. The same frumpy flt attendant stood at the door and she didn't even say "thank you" . In fact, come to think of it, I don't think I heard any member of the cabin crew mutter anything at all! During meal service, all the said was "whatwouldyouliketodrinkgreenteateacoffee? whatwouldyouliketodrinkgreenteateacoffee?" in quick successions...
SFO international terminal was opened a few years back. the concept mirror a few new airports with lots of natural lightings through glass panels and ceiling windows (KLIA, Hongkong, Incheon, Pudong). Immigration was slow as usual for US airport international arrivals but my bags were at the carousel as soon as I cleared passport control.
Northwest Airlines is surely a cheap way to fly from Asia to US - their domestic connections are very convenient as well. Unfortunately, the cabin service leaves much to be desired and they lag far behind major international carriers. Service was especially poor on trans-Pacific sectors to and from Japan. It just shows the kind of mentality the American crew work with because service was far better from SIN-NRT with the Singaporean and Japanese crew.
My onward journey with NW from SFO-MSP-ORD, and ORD-DTW-NRT was horrendous. Once again, looking at the condition of cabin service in US, I realise that we are indeed pretty spoilt here in Singapore. SQ is really not that bad after all compared to NW (no comparison - some might say!) but I hear that United is a better US airline to fly with. So I might just check them out next time!
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
Cactuscmh From United States of America, joined May 2001, 102 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3581 times:
Nice trip report!! How do you like JAL? How does it compare with Northworst?
Mehtabrahman From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 228 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3559 times:
Ryanair,
It seems you always fly on either Business or First Class in Singapore and Malaysian Airlines...but this time, how come you flew by economy in Northwest? Just experimenting?
Nwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3517 times:
CactusCMH- I am sorry who is the worst airline?
Good review however I can assure you that long haul international travel service from FAs in coach is the same on all US carriers. Plonk the tray and move on is standard.
Joakims From Sweden, joined Jan 2002, 55 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3494 times:
Hello
I have heard from others that american airlierns service is not that good as for example Asian or european airliners.
And wonders why?
From this trip report and many hear I can only compare to SIA, CX, MAS, KLM and LH.
Compared to those the American airliners seams to be ages behind then it comes to inflight and cabin crew service
If I should choose among them I should choose SIA, MAS or CX as my head airlines in the world.
The price is not higher on those then on many european airlines I have checked prices for my next flight on.
CX was after all just slightly little more expensive
SQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3467 times:
Great trip report.
I have heard all too many times about the good'ol American inflight service. Well, this trip report just confirms it. I fully agree that perhaps we Asian have been spoilt by the kind of service we get on some our Asian carriers such as TG, SQ, MH and CX (note that I did not include all Asian airlines)...
I have to admit that even on those asian carriers not listed above, the inflight service is far superior than the NRT-SFO leg reported above. I suppose it is the asian touch, gentle stewardesses and smiles are always free-flowing.
Frankly, I have experienced far worse service than the one Ryanair has posted. It was on OA, that flight broke all rules with regards to inflight service!!!! Never again, OA!
H. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3463 times:
very nice,Ryanair!!! I really enjoy reading your trip reports!
I have the pretty(almost 99%) experience with you back in July, also on a NW but a flight from NRT-JFK which takes 12 hours, the service are really poor but yes, it's a cheap way to fly between two continents,
Salvation From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 173 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3435 times:
You sure do travel a lot. I live in GUM and use NW to travel to HNL some times. Although I fly World Business, the service from GUM to NRT then NRT to HNL is great. The flight attendants on the NRT to HNL leg are HNL based if I'm correct and they're always a blast to fly with...the ALOHA spirit as soon as you enter the plane...
AirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2524 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3420 times:
Yes it is a fact...
Asian AND AUSTRALASIAN carriers are the talk between American carriers...
On many Flight Attendant forums, american cabin crews talk about Qantas and AirNZ's service. They say that they only wish they could do what they do... I wonder why they dont put that into action...
Thay also say that there galleys (AirNZ, Qantas) far outweigh their galleys..(I am mainly talking about UA and AA here). That is why the food is better on asian and australasian airlines.
I think American crews do there best, but because of discrimination laws now, American service has gone to the dogs...unlike Australasia's and Asia's...
Cactuscmh From United States of America, joined May 2001, 102 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3419 times:
Ryanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3217 posts, RR: 21 Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3402 times:
AirNewZealand - I don't think you can compare Australasian carriers (certainly QF anyway) with SQ, EK, CX and now the revamped BA - in terms of service AND entertainment. I have found QF to be crappy - although ANZ are better IMHO.
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4608 posts, RR: 30 Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3404 times:
Hi all,
tks for the 5 star rating... *bow bow bow*
Mehtabrahman:
I did not fly J Class because this was a free campanion ticket redeemed through my friend's World Perks FFP.
Cactuscmh:
JAL is a good airline, almost faultless because the Japanese crew provides excellent service. But they do not speak very good English - small drawback. Food is excellent too! But PTV wasn't installed yet that time I flew...
Salvation:
I have heard about the good service fm NRT-HNL. And the crew is indeed based in HNL and they are so cheerful for some reason. In fact, my friend who travelled on that flight receive a free bottle of champagne from Business Class but was told to be hush-hush abt it! Cool huh?
Well, the main difference between airlines are their mission statements. And its clear that the attendannts on US airlines are there to ensure safety, not service.
When I was on my return trip fm Detroit to Narita, I even saw an attendant with no make up on, plus a zit on her face to boot! Now try and picture that happening on SQ or MH... unthinkable huh? Asian airlines put a lot of emphasis not only on the safety aspect but personal presentation as well. Notice how they all make up and bun their hair the same way on Thai, SQ and MH? I understand that SQ girls are not allowed to have errand strands of hair sticking out after they bun their hair so that is taken care of by hair gel. Make up has an SOP too!
Hence, when someone from US or Europe steps onboard SQ, MH or Thai, they are instantly swept off their feet by the immaculate presentation of the cabin crew who are really the ambassadors, or the epitome of Asian culture. Be it the Pierre Balmain kebaya dresses of SQ and MH, of the gentle hand-clasped greeting "Thai" style, its in the package. And clever marketing completes the picture - Asian Charm! Each aisan airline is unique because of the rich cultural elements so the marketing plays that up.
Comparisons aside, NW means business and that is what they are good at! But I just wish that their Business Class tix were not so expensive! It's not worth it paying so much for crap!
But I have also received good service on AA (HNL-LAX), UA(SIN-HKG), America West (LAS-OAK). So I know that not all US airlines are crappy. It's just most of them, but not all...
Cheers
Ryan
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4608 posts, RR: 30 Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3392 times:
hi,
australasian-carriers wise, the best has to be a tie between Air NZ and Ansett (sad... ). Unfortunately the 2 carriers are either seriously in financial turmoil, or not flying anymore.
QF's "we're no.1" attitude remains their greatest downfall in terms of cabin service. I reluctantly flew QF on 2 trips SIN-SYD and the service I received was downright ugly, with a tinge of racism attached to it... I was probably sensitive.
I had a friend on QF who asked for a pillow and was told to get it himself! Hmm... And he was an Aussie!
Cheers
Ryan
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
SR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1652 posts, RR: 50 Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3361 times:
I did Amsterdam-Detroit in World Business Class 3 months ago. I had just walked of a KLM WBC flight and I was expecting something on similar lines and it was not to be true. I think the crew really let the airline down. I posted a trip report, U will see what I mean. I think U had a better flight than me.
I have been flying United for years and they really stand out from the other US airlines. My first flight with them was HKG-SFO over 10 years ago and my last flight was IAD-FRA a year ago and they are still the same. IMO they are the best US airline.
If U cross the Pacific again I would suggest U stick to CX, SQ, TG, or MH. They are certainly worth the money and U will be happy. I was just reminded of this when I flew SFO-HKG on CX in December. No one can beat Asian airlines, no one comes close!
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3353 times:
Inflight service on US based carriers has not gone to the dogs because of "discrimination laws." I'm not sure what you are alluding to, but diversity of cabin crew in age, race, or gender has precious little to do with standards of service. I have flown United on transcon flights and their service provided by a very diverse crew is quite good. Yes, perhaps older cabin crew can often be snappy on flights because I guess they've seen it all and are bored to death. However, the real issues affecting service, in my opinion, are cost-cutting measures imposed by management, poor salaries for non-union crew, salary freezes, and yield management that focuses on cramming as many passengers into a 747 as possible. I agree with the general theme of the posting that NW offer awful service even by American standards.
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 5826 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3336 times:
Great trip report! I must agree with you a great deal of US Based fas don't really care for their appearance, they look like they have just woken up. Service on most US majors is non existent like you mentioned ,on my last flight with AA I saw the crew like 3 times during the whole flight and a f/a in particular was extremly rude. Let's see what type of crew I get on my upcoming trip on AA this Sat.
Chepos
Lufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3119 posts, RR: 50 Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3339 times:
Another great trip report from you!
I totally agree with you about the crap service you get on US airlines. My NW flight was just like your NRT-SFO... However, UA was even worse last summer on most flights (5 on UA), service on HNL-LAX was downright horrible.
I'd love to fly Thai or SQ always but unfortunately it's not possible from here... Haven't tried MH yet. Talking about Australia/NZ, Qantas is bad IMO, Air New Zealand very good. Ansett was the best though
Luftaom From Australia, joined May 1999, 423 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3326 times:
Top trip report ... look forward to reading your next one.
I just wish to take issue with the above poster (lufthansa 747) ... what do you mean taking TG or SQ is not possible from here ... you are the only guy I know of who takes great delight in buying tickets from anywhere but Helsinki *cough cough cough* RTW ex SYD *cough cough cough*
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4608 posts, RR: 30 Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3310 times:
Lufthansa747,
from where u r in Helsinki, I have flown Finnair and I think they are excellent! AY does fly to the US, doesn't it? So that can be a good option rather than SQ, TG or MH...
But if you want to stop by Asia on the way to the US, why not? The world is at our feet, better explore all you can before it ends! That is my motto and hence my travels.
Regards
Ryan
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4608 posts, RR: 30 Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3307 times:
sigh...
I am still amazed at how the KLM/NW alliance can exist when there are obvious difference between the 2 carriers - service wise?
I guess at the end of the day, it is business that counts. The convenience of connections and code share flights without any hassles. Seamless travel...
But I thought it would be more fitting for KLM to be linked to UA or AA because their business class cabins are excellent - rather on par with KLM's! And they have sleeper beds on their F Class too! Oops... but KLM doesn't have F Class anymore, so they?
Cheers
Ryan
Welcome to my starry one world alliance, a team in the sky!
SQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3301 times:
Having flown KLM on numerous occasion, I can personally say that they provide relatively good inflight service. They can't be compared to the major asian carriers, but they are definitely one of the best in Europe...(never flown on an american carrier, therefore in no position to compare here).
I will definitely avoid NW like a plague for my coming trip. Can anyone recommend how best (most comfortable, minimum aircraft changes, shortest flying time) to fly from SIN to MSP ? I know the obvious choice is NW, but no way! I would also prefer not to fly SQ on any of the sectors as I am frankly quite bored with flying them all the time. I need a change.
Any great ideas anyone?
PS: Recommended choice MUST have PTV in Y (I am one of those who can never fall asleep in Y class)
Nwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3303 times:
Why does a PTV or "hot flight attendants" make the choice for your airline.
I choose the best price, schedule, most reliable, and best at not losing my luggage airline that I have had previous consistently good experiences with.
SQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3293 times:
Nwa747-400,
Thanks for your suggestion.
I am not paying for my own ticket, so NW's "best price" is not an issue...
Coming from Asia, and having constantly flown on leading Asian carriers, I have been spoilt and pampered by their service. As such, if I can help it, I would expect nothing less than what I am used to.
I take forgranted that schedule integrity and reliability comes with flying on reputable airlines. Service, comfort and PTVs are extras that will help me survive the flight! Service on the ground is just as important especially in instances when a delay or diversion occurs... I wouldn't even venture to think how I will be treated by NW if I were to be stranded in some god forsaken place when service is apparently not their forte.
Flying the red tails is not an option at this point in time.
9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1718 posts, RR: 12 Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3279 times:
I flown to US 2 years back flying UA SIN-NRT-SFO . The services has a lot to be desired but the domestic services i flown in US were better . Will I fly US airlines again ? It depends because if there is vacancy on SQ's flight , i would rather fly SQ anyday .
Lufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3119 posts, RR: 50 Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3270 times:
Hi Ryan,
Yes, Finnair does fly to JFK, five times weekly now, going back to daily when the summer schedule will be introduced. They have also added flights to Asia, BKK is now daily with 4 services going on to SIN and 3 to HKG. Extra flight to PEK added too. I like their MD11s but haven't found the service any better than the euro majors like LH/KL/AF... I'm checking out the new SAS A340s in 2 weeks time, looking forward to it.
Your idea to fly to the US via Asia is simply great - I need to try it one day At least CX is offering such fares from here!
Bradley: hehehehehe
Best Regards,
Lufthansa747
Air Asia Super Elite, Cebu Pacific Titanium
25 Ryanair!!!: SQ772, Why don't you fly to MSP with KLM via AMS fm SIN? I can confirm the fact that KLM does fly to MSP using their own 747-400, read my upcoming rep
26 9V-SVE: SQ772, you can also take CX/MH to LAX and then take a domestic carrier to MSP
27 Ryanair!!!: This is a continuation of my trip report posted earlier "SIN-NRT-SFO on NW". So here goes! ========================================== SFO-MSP, NW592,
28 Ryanair!!!: Oops... sorry about posting a trip report here... Accident!
29 AeroGlobeAir7: Delta is the best! I don't think NWA really is the best of the US airlines at all, high ticket prices ($550 dollars from Kansas City-Orlando via Detro
30 SQ772: Thanks Ryanair and 9VSVE for your kind recommendations! Well, I thought of KLM, but they do not have PTVs in Y class, and I don't think I will ever su
31 Ryanair!!!: SQ772, I tried to get a ticket to Seattle once on JAL but the travel agents told me that they do not sell code share tix. However, it was going to cos
32 SQ772: Ok, I think I know what you mean now. It really depends on which airline operates that code share flight. Ryanair, you know very well how much of an a
33 Ryanair!!!: SQ772, I rest my case. All the best looking for an alternate route to MSP! hehehehe... tell me what you come up with coz I would very much like to kno
34 SQ772: will do! CX at the top of my list at the moment. But have a strong feeling my company will put me on SQ!!!...hmmm if it's via ORD, I wouldn't mind too
35 Joakims: Hello again It is obviolsy so I have to check in on this more. Yes I agrre with SQ772 about that it is the mood of the asians that makes the service.
36 Qantas744: Going back to the earlier comments about QF,I know from having done LHR-SYD and back twice in the last two years that QF is a long way from 'quality w
37 NWA Man: Ryanair- Sorry to hear about your rough experiences with NW. However, I must take issue with some of your comments. 1. (referring to NW WBC) I don't s
38 Ryanair!!!: NWA Man, Oh no... I didn't mean obese, please don't take my comments the wrong way. I meant big built. Those two guys were not fat, they were just bui
39 Cathay Pacific: Ryanair, Great report, really enjoy reading it!!!! (but i'm suppose to be doing my accounting hw ) Cathay Pacific....Now You Are Really Flying