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Delta 747-400 BusinessElite, New York To Tokyo  
User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3203 posts, RR: 13
Posted (3 years 9 months 1 day ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey all,

Well, just finished another trip back to the land of the rising sun. The trip started out as a bit of an a.net mini-meet but quite a few people had to cancel in the days leading up to the trip for various reasons. Oh well, ended up just going with a work buddy of mine haha. Anyhow, in my quest to get on all 16 of 16 ships in the DL 747-400 fleet, I flew out to MSP the night before our trip started to I'd have flights available to do MSP-JFK-NRT, MSP-DTW-NRT, MSP-NRT, or MSP-LAX-NRT based on which ships were slated to do which flights. Having been on 11 of the 16, it's getting increasingly difficult to find the last few. Luckily, one of my missing 5 was assigned to do JFK-NRT on the morning of our trip.

Almost misconnected in JFK given the ice-storm and huge delays the morning of out of MSP. Nonrev gods were on my side though, mostly... haha. Also did my first ever TransPac 767 flight... kind of a novelty to fly that little airplane over the big ocean!! Final itinerary:

DEN-MSP: UA E70
MSP-JFK: DL CR9
JFK-NRT: DL 744
NRT-SFO: DL 763
SFO-DEN: UA 777




21 November 2010
DL173, JFK-NRT
Block Time: 14 hours, 15 minutes
747-451, N664US, ship# 6304
Seat: 12A, main deck BusinessElite

Load Factor-
Business: 65%
Coach: 85%

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November is always one of the best months to nonrev to NRT. Typically the lightest loads to and from the Orient. The trick is usually the domestic flight loads, just getting to the hub and back home after the trip is over. Holiday travel always throws a wrench in that engine.

Anyhow, the morning of the trip starting, I almost didn't even make it to JFK in time to catch the NRT flight. The MSP-JFK was supposed to have a 1hr50min connection time in JFK, so I figured I should have plenty of time even if JFK had bad flow control or anything. Between the ice storm, ramp closure, maintenance on the aircraft, deicing, and parking at the furthest possible gate away in JFK, I had about 25 minutes from arrival to catch the 744 before they closed the doors.


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JFK visible below my Comair CR9, on descent. My 744 can even be seen at the far end of T3, boarding already in progress. I think that's the tightest international connection I've ever made.


Luckily once we landed in JFK we had a relatively fast taxi to the gate, no major hold-ups. I got a text from my buddy saying they had already cleared me into BusinessElite so I knew I had to run fast to make sure I got there before they closed up the gate.


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Winglet 763ER at T2. For those of you that know DL equipment codes, ship 191 is a 76U, not one of the IGW 76T's.


So, after finally getting my gate valet bags back in JFK, hoofed it over to T3 and the JFK gate. By the time I got to the NRT gate I was pretty well out of breath. The agent gave me my boarding pass for 9D on main deck BusinessElite. I asked if they had any windows available, he said just to change once I was on board. Oh well. I only got one pic of the aircraft itself before going on board since time was down to the wire.


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Ship 6304 (N664US). One of my missing 5 of the 16 ships.


Once I was on board I was trying to scope out any good windows. I didn't want to just casually walk up to the top deck then walk back down, so I moved over to 12A which is really my favorite seat anyway. On the 747-400, everyone seems to LOVE the nose section, rows 1-4. Personally, I don't like it at all. Granted there is less traffic, but you can't see the wing or engine from that far forward. I love the furthest aft section on the main deck... best views of the wing!!


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Quick look across the main deck BusinessElite cabin before doors were closed for departure.


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Luckily, no one was seated in 12B so I had the 12AB row to myself. Got both water bottles  


About 7 or 8 minutes after I stepped foot on board, door 2L was closed and we were ready for departure. Yikes... that was way too close. Hope to never have to cut it that close again, haha.


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A330-200 ship 3354 next to us before pushback. It was inbound from AMS, outbound to MXP.


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757-251 ship 5644 taxiing by us during our pushback. Inbound from BRU, outbound to DUB.


The pushback tug towed us out to the taxiway before we even started engines. After starting all four, we made our slow taxi out to the longest runway at JFK, Rwy 13R. I didn't get a chance to talk to the crew or see our dispatch release before we left but with our blocktime of 14+15 I'm fairly sure our fuel load was just a bit over 300,000#. We were gonna be a HEAVY takeoff!!


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Takeoff on runway 13R out of JFK


Our runway performance actually seemed rather quick for as much gas as we were holding. Climb performance was a whole other thing, that was rather slow haha.


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Making our turn to a NNW heading for our Trans-Polar crossing


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Climbing toward our initial level-off. Flaps 1 setting, outboard slats retracted. JFK visible in the distance.


After we were established in our climb, the FA's began the in flight service. They seemed relatively new to the 747-400 and after a few comments made, I was able to be pretty sure that they were a PMDL NYC crew. I was rather surprised to see that since, previously, it was almost exclusively PMNW crews to the Pacific since they could work alongside the Orient-based crews while the PMDL ones couldn't.


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Cranapple juice and warm nuts. Forgot to order it with vodka.... blah!!


All following captions taken directly from the menu.


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A tasting of two appetizers - seared pepper crusted tuna with soubean and seaweed salad and feta cheese with grilled peppers and olives. Served with cream of lettuce soup and mixed green salad with dried cranberries, cucumbers, tomatoes, and pine nuts.


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Seared mahi mahi with lemon butter sauce, asparagus, and paella rice.


Delta always has 3 options available for dessert. The fruit and cheese plate, an ice cream sundae, or a 3rd option which is usually cakes, cookies, pies, etc. I usually just go with the classic though and get the ice cream. Can't beat it!! Well.... only chocolate ice cream might be better, haha.


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Vanilla ice cream sundae with your choice of sauces, whipped cream, and chopped nuts.


Through dinner I watched the movie "Avatar", one of my favorites. After dessert I usually hit the sack for quite a few hours but I wasn't quite tired yet so I listed to some music and watched the moving map for a short bit.


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Globe view of our route and areas of daylight and shadow. Given our rather northerly routing we were skimming on twilight the entire time until descent into Narita when it briefly became daylight again before sunset.


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Remixes of Lady Gaga songs on a 747-400. I thought I had died and gone to heaven  


After going through the Lady Gaga playlist and a few others I finally hit the rack for a few hours and got some shut-eye.


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Last pic out the window before lights-out for me.


Half way through, I happened to wake up in time for the mid-flight snack which *never* happens for me. I'm the type that could sleep through most small wars so I was really surprised I actually was up in time for it. Got a few cool pictures too as we passed over Alaska and down into the Siberia region of Russia.


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From the menu: Chilled deli platter with glazed chicken, teriyaki salmon, saga blue cheese, and napa cabbage slaw.


Not as good as the old Northwest days when they used to serve mini pizzas mid-flight. One of the few things DL did *not* improve upon from the NWA days.


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Looking down on the frozen tundra in Siberia. I love doing the trans-polar routes over to NRT.


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Quick pic of the seat controls before I reclined and caught a few more hours of Z's.


A little over an hour out from Tokyo-Narita, the FA's began the pre-arrival service. I usually get the breakfast option to help me feel a bit more awake after crossing so many time zones but I just wasn't really in the mood for breakfast so I ordered the cold plate option instead.


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Flying south toward the coast of Japan.


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Again, flying south over the ocean. Was daylight for awhile but the sun was rapidly setting in the west, as seen by the large shadow over the wing.


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Pre-arrival meal. From the menu: Roasted pork with lime chili sauce, a vegetable medley, and jasmine rice.


After the FA's collected all the trays and napkins from the pre-arrival service, we began our descent toward Tokyo-Narita. Didn't get any good pictures outside as the daylight was rapidly decreasing and the landing light glare in the window didn't help much either.   

Took a few pics of the moving map and our plane on arrival, at least.


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Final descent toward Tokyo-Narita


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My last picture of the moving map screen before putting it away before landing. We'd go on to pass 6900 miles but didn't quite make it to 7000 miles on the flight.


We landed on runway 31R in NRT which I was completely shocked to see. NWA *never* landed the 747-400 on 13L/31R in NRT. Some bean-counter at DL decided it would be a good idea though...


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Ship 6304 (N664US) on a brief rest in NRT after arriving from JFK before continuing onward to PVG for the night.


Good flight though, as always, I really enjoy my time on the 747-400's. Ship 6304 (N664US) was my 12th ship off the list of 16. Now only 4 to go!!





23 November 2010
DL58, NRT-SFO
Block Time: 09 hours, 30 minutes
767-332ER, N1602, ship# 1602
Seat: 4G, BusinessElite

Load Factor-
Business: 85%
Coach: 85%

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Had a blast in Narita, as always. One of my favorite places to visit... on a regular basis, at least. Went to the Jet Lag Club and enjoyed some [relatively] cheap Japanese beer. Though, it's a bit more expensive than the last time I was there... the dollar's strength against the yen has really gone down in 2010. Bleh.

I was initially going to do the NRT-LAX flight since I live and die for the 744. But, it was slated to be ship 6303 (N663US) which I've already been on twice and that was going to be my third flight on her. The LAX-DEN loads also looked pretty bad... pre-holiday load factors. SFO-DEN, on the other hand, UA had substituted a 777 for a 757... so an additional 70+ seats. Nonrev dream!! So, I begrudgingly listed for NRT-SFO. Was looking forward to it in a way though, was my first ever Transpac flight on a 767!!


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Observation deck, terminal 1. In my now 14 trips to NRT, I've only ever seen terminal 2 once. Way more used to the UA and DL (and previously NW) terminal 1.


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Terminal 1 North Wing departure board. All of DL's Transpac flights can be seen: DTW, JFK, MSP, ATL, PDX, SFO, SEA, LAX.


Before clearing security and heading out toward the gates, my buddy was hellbent to do some shopping for "engrish" t-shirts and other items. I felt like such a tourist, going around to all these shops with him and taking pictures of various items, haha.


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A few planes sitting in remote parking. Just cleared outbound passport and immigration. Oddly enough, the A330 was an A332. I was very surprised to see it as A332's were seasonally removed from NRT with the seasonal suspension of SLC-NRT and LAX-NRT going to a 744.


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First arrival bank for DL at NRT. Ship 6304 was the first to show, inbound PVG, just about to be towed into the gate. A 75A behind her and another 744 on runway 31L in the background.


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6304 (N664US) being towed into the gate. Same ship from my JFK-NRT the day before. That day she just completed PVG-NRT and was flying onward NRT-DTW.


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My ship for NRT-SFO just arriving, ship# 1602 (N1602). It landed on the short runway, 13R, so I only saw it taxi over, I didn't get any pictures of it landing on 13L.


When I was checking in for DL58 NRT-SFO, I initially asked if I could be checked in as an S2 (high-priority pass). The agent talked me out of it though, saying it would only improve my place on the list 1 spot and I'd still easily get J-class with an S3 (normal-priority pass). So often I need the voice of reason to talk some sense into me  


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My 767-300ER at the gate, ship 1602 (N1602)


Despite the somewhat high load-factor in J-class, the gate agents cleared nonrevs into Business nearly 1.5 hours prior, a very pleasant surprise!! Knowing the load was pretty heavy, I didn't want to push my luck and ask for any specific seat, I was just going to accept whatever I got. Luckily, they handed me 4G, a window. I was major pumped!!


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Gate 23 for my flight to SFO. Inbound flight pax still deplaning.


I was rather surprised when the agents started boarding the flight 55 minutes prior - for a 763 that wasn't even full. 55 minutes is a boarding time more suited for a 744. Little did I realize though, they wanted to depart early because they knew we were going to lose some time enroute to SFO.


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View out the window from 4G while still at the gate. I was floored when, in a few minutes, they wheeled up an air-start unit, meaning our APU was INOP.


Fast-forward toward the end of the flight, I was waiting for the Lav and the captain was waiting with me. I asked him how we were able to do ETOPS with an INOP APU. He said that under ETOPS-120 rules you can fly with APU INOP but under ETOPS-180, the APU must be operating. So, dispatch threw together a flight plan for us in which we were never further than 120 minutes from a divert field for our entire flight NRT-SFO. As a drawback to taking the amended routing, we were going to lose quite a bit of time enroute as we were not going to be able to ride the favorable tailwinds of the jetstream.

Track back to NRT, we closed up 25 minutes early after getting all the pax boarded. Little did I know our INOP APU and ETOPS-120 routing were going to slow us down enroute quite a bit, I was looking forward to a *very* early arrival into SFO!!


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Pushback in NRT. A330-300 ship 3317 (N817NW), inbound from SEA, was waiting for our gate.


After push, we beat the the 777 to ATL in line for takeoff. While taxiing to the runway I got to watch the 744's to JFK and MSP takeoff, the DTW bird was already long gone. Ship 6303 to LAX was being towed in to the gate as we taxied away.

Takeoff was rather quick, at least compared to what I was expecting from a 763 carrying enough fuel for 5100 miles. It was also my first time on a GE-powered DL 763, my previous flight was on a PW-powered bird. Lot of 'firsts' for me on that flight.


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Climbout after takeoff. NRT runway 31R/13L below - two UA 777's taxiing toward their gates.


Initial climbout from NRT was VERY turbulent, moreso than I'm used to out of NRT. Several times the Capt made PA's asking FA's to return to their seats for very rough air ahead. Got quite the ride for awhile!!


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Climbing toward our initial level-off.


After takeoff we tried several different altitudes to avoid the turbulence. The Capt made a PA saying that aircraft higher than us were reporting continuous light chop with occasional moderate chop. So, we stayed a bit lower for awhile, about FL280 or so for a bit. ATC finally gave us a bit of an amended routing, more toward the north of our filed Mid-Pacific flight track.


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Deviating course to the north to avoid the rather strong turbulence.


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FINALLY a calm cruise altitude!! Initially FL320 for the first part of our crossing.


After we finally reached a safe and smooth cruise altitude, the FA's began their dinner service. I brought out the PTV hoping to find TOP GUN among the AVOD lineup but came up short. Ack!!


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Main menu for the AVOD system.


After the late night in NRT, it was all I could do to keep my eyes open through the meal service. Once I finished dessert, I was out like a light until descent into SFO. All captions taken from the menu:


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A tasting of two appetizers, grilled rosemary shrimp with daikon and pepper slaw and goate cheese mousse with tomato and olives with cream of onion soup


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Mixed green salad with cucumbers, tomatoes, and almonds. Served with balsamic vinaigrette or bleu cheese dressing.


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Pork and shrimp stir-fry with chinese soy sauce and egg noddles.


I was actually going to get the fruit and cheese plate for dessert but the FA's didn't have it immediately available on the cart when they came by. Not wanting to cause any extra trouble I just got the ice cream sundae again with raspberry sauce and chopped nuts.


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Vanilla ice cream sundae with your choice of sauces, whipped cream, and chopped nuts.


And just prior to catching some Z's for the next 7 hours, I looked out the window for a bit as we made our crossing of the Pacific.


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Sunset over an overcast Pacific Ocean.


After getting a solid 6-7 hours of sleep I woke up in time for the quick pre-arrival service into SFO. I was rather surprised to see that only a cold breakfast was offered on a flight north of 5000 miles while most JFK-Europe flights on DL have hot breakfast options and those are only 3000-4000 miles, tops.


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Moving map, about 1 hour out from SFO


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From the menu: Seasonal fresh fruit and yogurt served with assorted breakfast breads and preserves.


After the trays were collected by the FA's, I waited in line for the fwd lav near the cockpit. I got to briefly talk with the captain who told me about our ETOPS-120 flight plan. I also found out they were all DTW-based 757/767 pilots. Were flying NRT-SFO that day then the next day were flying SFO-DTW on a 757.


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Sunrise over the Pacific, reflecting off our GE motors.


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Final pic of my map screen. We'd go on to hit 5300 and almost 5400 miles enroute. A bit of a course deviation for our ETOPS-120 flight plan.


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Slats down and speed brakes up for our final descent into a rather typical overcast and low-vis San Francisco morning!!


True to form with all my 767 flights, the landing was quite rough. Just something about the 767, it doesn't seem an airplane that's easy to get a good landing in.

Clearing customs went rather quick and painless. Just waited about 4 hours for my connecting flight to DEN, the 777 that was subbed in for a 757. Ended up getting a row to myself in EconPlus, so quite the enjoyable final flight for the trip!!


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Rainbow over the SFO airport after a bit of rain and fog.


Final impressions... DL does have a good product but there are things they can always improve upon that NWA did, indeed, do better than them - hard as that may be to believe for them. Hot mid-flight snacks would be a huge boost, as would be hot pre-arrival items. Like I said, the lions share of their ATL-Europe flights are much shorter and still have hot breakfast served pre-arrival. NRT-SFO and NRT-LAX, both well north of 5000 miles, should have hot food items served on arrival.

Beyond that, I can't wait to see the 747-400 with the new lie-flat BusinessElite and brand new Y-class product. She'll be a beautiful, beautiful machine. As for me... 12 down, 4 to go. 6309, 6311, 6314, and 6315 are my last four. 2011 will be a busy year!!


Thanks in advance for all responses!!






A340-500: 4 engines 4 long haul. 777-200LR: 2 engines 4 longer haul
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User currently offlineJetBlue777 From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 1452 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
JFK visible below my Comair CR9, on descent. My 744 can even be seen at the far end of T3, boarding already in progress. I think that's the tightest international connection I've ever made.

WOAH. This reminds me of the time my family and I were in the security-check at B6's old T6, my dad left his passport and we need an ID for him so my mom had to go home and get it. 1 1/2 hrs later, at 8:40 PM, we were at the security checkpoint. Flight was due to depart at 8:30, luckily, JetBlue was nice enough to wait for us. Let's just say everyone looked at us in a not-so-friendly way   

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
A330-200 ship 3354 next to us before pushback. It was inbound from AMS, outbound to MXP.

I see OZ 772, they recently changed to a 777 and a daylight flight instead of a midnight flight with mostly 747 flights. Now their all 777. I was lucky enough to be on one of the last flights on their 747 from JFK and to JFK. BTW, I also had the same view as you when I was onboard OZ's 744 and I had a chance to witness stunning scenery over Canada, Alaska and Russia. Too bad we arrived at ICN at 3AM so I can't see the spoilers in action  
Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
757-251 ship 5644 taxiing by us during our pushback. Inbound from BRU, outbound to DUB.
Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Looking down on the frozen tundra in Siberia. I love doing the trans-polar routes over to NRT.

Did DL FAs allow you to open the shades? I know a lot of airlines force you to close them down!  

BTW How was the seats on the 763? It's kinda weird how DL flies the 767 in transpac flights..

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Beyond that, I can't wait to see the 747-400 with the new lie-flat BusinessElite and brand new Y-class product. She'll be a beautiful, beautiful machine. As for me... 12 down, 4 to go. 6309, 6311, 6314, and 6315 are my last four. 2011 will be a busy year!!

Haha, i see. I've been in all of OZ's 74Ms, HL7421 and HL7423, not so hard to accomplish considering there's only 2 of them   Yes, I love Asiana lol. My screen name should be Asiana777 lol.

Anyways, I enjoyed reading your report and I liked the pics of JFK (btw how was T3). DL seems to have a decent service and product but they still can't compete with Asian airlines in terms of service   A very good and enjoyable report  



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User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thank you for sharing, I myself just returned from Japan a nd decided to go with DL. Outbound I did LAX-NRT and returned on the 330-300 via SEA. November is indeed a great time of the year to visit Japan, both flights were open. I got cleared in coach but the service on the outbound was top notch, very nice and friendly crew- plus we were in row 21 and an empty seat in the middle.
Hope you enjoyed Japan and thanks again for all your help.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlinejbbmonster7 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

we're thinking of going JFK-NRT on DL, are the biz elite seats worth the price, was it an ok "bed"???

Jonathan


User currently offlineatrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

You do things internationally, I do it domestically.

I just can't see myself sitting that long in F or J for that long of a flight. I was bored on my SEA-NRT and that was F, JFK-NRT and I'd be committing murder.

Nothing more grand then seeing a 747 come in for landing and take off. All I can say is it is magic that lifts that damn 747 into the air and keeps it afloat. We hear about it, we know how it works but its still magical.

Great pictures, I am still going to ride your ass until you actually go SEE Tokyo! You yell at me to fly to NRT and I do and I actually leave Narita and see the city. You have been NRT multiple times, and I have been once and I have seen more of Tokyo than you, for shame!  

I'll join ya for one of these NRT trips, but for gods sakes let's go to downtown Tokyo!

Alex



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User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi

Great report with plenty of high quality photo's. It always a great time when you fly on a 747.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Observation deck, terminal 1. In my now 14 trips to NRT, I've only ever seen terminal 2 once. Way more used to the UA and DL (and previously NW) terminal 1.

I guess i'm the opposite of you. I've been to NRT about 4-5 times and every time it's been at T2.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Terminal 1 North Wing departure board. All of DL's Transpac flights can be seen: DTW, JFK, MSP, ATL, PDX, SFO, SEA, LAX.

It's really impressive the operation that DL has at NRT.

Good luck with your quest to log the other 4 747's in DL's fleet.

Regards
aflyingkiwi


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1926 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Wow, Transpac787! Another great report!

I was getting anxious even reading about your tight connection! Jeez .. that's so frustrating/such an adrenaline rush when you have to catch something that quickly.

Really nice views from all your flights with Delta. The service looks nice in J from JFK-NRT, and from NRT-SFO. The food looks pretty good, but it seems like Delta doesn't really change their menu options too much. I feel like the the salad and soup look to be the same as on many of their flights I've seen in this forum!

Great to get on a 747-400 too .. I'm like you, I'd seek these out in every opportunity.  

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlinePrinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

DL really needs to improve meal presentation for business class. It looks like coach class from the 80s. Certainly not like a premium product.

Nice trip report. Always a pleasure to read.



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User currently onlinesr117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey there, very nice report, I share your fondness for Narita ! Getting to Tokyo is a pain after the long transpacific hop and Narita at least gives you a taste of Japan without all the hassle. The new Skyliner is really fast though, 35 minutes to Ueno and not ridiculously expensive either.

The menu though, hilarious ! It looks exactly the same as what I got on SFO-NRT and KIX-SEA : )

Thanks again
Ricardo


User currently offlinecomeflywithme From Argentina, joined Sep 2006, 265 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 32666 times:

Thanks for a great report.....very interesting.

Quoting Prinair (Reply 7):
DL really needs to improve meal presentation for business class. It looks like coach class from the 80s. Certainly not like a premium product.

I have to agree......going by the pictures the food doesn't give the look of being a premium class product at all....very disappointing.


User currently offlinemodesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2791 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 31669 times:

Another great report! I've non-revved twice NRT-SFO on DL in J class and enjoyed the experience but was disappointed with the cold breakfast service prior to arrival in SFO. DL's food is decent, but CO's J food is way better! Keep the reports coming  

User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3203 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 30052 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 1):
Did DL FAs allow you to open the shades?

They made a PA asking everyone to please close them so people could sleep. There was no one next to me though and I was in the last row of J-class so the few times I did open the shade wasn't disturbing anyone.

Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 1):
BTW How was the seats on the 763? It's kinda weird how DL flies the 767 in transpac flights..

Quite a few 767 transpac routes now. SEA-KIX, SEA-PEK, PDX-NRT, SFO-NRT. Plus HNL-NRT and HNL-NGO if you count those.

Quoting chepos (Reply 2):
Thank you for sharing, I myself just returned from Japan a nd decided to go with DL. Outbound I did LAX-NRT and returned on the 330-300 via SEA.

Glad to hear it!! Did you do LAX-NRT while it was still on the A332 or was it on the 744??

Quoting jbbmonster7 (Reply 3):
was it an ok "bed"???

Well, I'm not really a standard to go by since I can sleep through most anything. I always enjoy them though!!

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 4):
I'll join ya for one of these NRT trips, but for gods sakes let's go to downtown Tokyo!

We'll make a deal. I'll go downtown if you do LAX-NRT with me. Overwater the. whole. way. Can you deal with that?!  

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 5):
Good luck with your quest to log the other 4 747's in DL's fleet.

Haha, thanks!! Looking forward to it!! First crack at it will be in January, I'm hoping.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 6):
but it seems like Delta doesn't really change their menu options too much.

I've started to notice that, actually. In fact, I think I had the same fish dish on JFK-NRT as I did exactly one year ago on DTW-NRT. Yikes.

Quoting sr117 (Reply 8):
The menu though, hilarious ! It looks exactly the same as what I got on SFO-NRT and KIX-SEA

Yea, quite a lot of repetition unfortunately, it seems.

Quoting modesto2 (Reply 10):
disappointed with the cold breakfast service prior to arrival in SFO.

I know, right!! There aren't many ATL-Europe flights longer than NRT-SFO and NRT-LAX, yet they all still have hot breakfast services. What gives??



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User currently offlineAI151 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 303 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 29775 times:

Hey Transpac787, a great insight as to the life of a 'nonrev'. How many times have you been to Japan?

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Luckily, one of my missing 5 was assigned to do JFK-NRT on the morning of our trip.

Best of luck for catching the other 4!

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Luckily, no one was seated in 12B so I had the 12AB row to myself. Got both water bottles

No doubt you would have needed them considering the amount of running you would have had to do. LOL!

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Terminal 1 North Wing departure board. All of DL's Transpac flights can be seen: DTW, JFK, MSP, ATL, PDX, SFO, SEA, LAX.

Anyone could easily mistake this FID's board for an airport in America rather than NRT. I knew that DL had a base in NRT however I never realised it was that big!

Sandeep (AI151)



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7549 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 29495 times:

Another great TR Matt! I always enjoy them.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
After takeoff we tried several different altitudes to avoid the turbulence. The Capt made a PA saying that aircraft higher than us were reporting continuous light chop with occasional moderate chop. So, we stayed a bit lower for awhile, about FL280 or so for a bit. ATC finally gave us a bit of an amended routing, more toward the north of our filed Mid-Pacific flight track.

This actually seems common. Ive done roughly 7 or 8 flights into NRT and every single time its always been rough between Japan and the date line. I flew NRT-DFW last May. Very smooth flight except for 20 minutes which was a nonstop roller coaster. Appearently there were two jets comeing together both blowing over 100 mph just off the coast of Japan.

Either way, turbulence over the Pacific, I find, is the worst internationally. The Atlantic and South America seem to be more forgiving. Of course, flying in the late fall to early spring is always rough over the Atlantic and Pacific.



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User currently offlinecargord From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 28759 times:

Great TR, Matt!

Awesome pics; it looks like your routing was spot-on for this time of year!

DL's product looks to be the way to go if I'm planning an MSP-NRT trip in 2011.

Take care,

Andy


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 28754 times:

Nice trip report, I'm glad you made the flight in JFK.


N1602 is a plane that I have been on as well back in July 2004 from Brussels to Atlanta.



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User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 28695 times:

LAX-NRT when I flew back in Nov. 3, 2010 was operated by the 747-400. I can attest the North Pacific being bumpy this time of year, on the way back for the last two and hours and half the crew were sitting as we were experiencing light to moderate turbulence. On the way over it was not too bad, some light chop here and there but nothing too bad.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offline9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 750 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 28401 times:

Another great report! What do you do at DL? I was in Av Safe while at grad school at GT!

9V-SPJ


User currently offlineCAP2008 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 28280 times:

What a small world, we just flew on ship 1602 to NCE on 24 Nov, got stuck in 1F/G!


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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 28276 times:

Pan Am lives on! Amazing to see Delta 747s departing T3 for NRT...

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 27781 times:

Nice to see rainbow over SFO


Food looks better on the 763 flight


Cheers



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User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 27510 times:

I really love the new DL colors, especially on the 747 and the 332...

thanks for another NRT-nonrev adventure! great report...


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3203 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 26506 times:

Quoting AI151 (Reply 12):
How many times have you been to Japan?

I've done a few quickturns where I didn't clear customs but I currently have 14 Japan stamps in my passport.

Quoting AI151 (Reply 12):
Best of luck for catching the other 4!

Thanks!! Can't wait to hunt the rest of em down   

Quoting AI151 (Reply 12):
I knew that DL had a base in NRT however I never realised it was that big!

That was only the first bank too. Once the flights from the US arrive they have departures to NGO, ICN, PUS, PEK, PVG, HKG, TPE, MNL, SIN, BKK, GUM, SPN, and will soon add flights to ROR and CAN.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 13):
The Atlantic and South America seem to be more forgiving.

I've noticed that also. I don't go to Europe as often but the Atlantic does seem, for the most part, smoother that the Pacific.

Quoting cargord (Reply 14):
DL's product looks to be the way to go if I'm planning an MSP-NRT trip in 2011.

Try to get on one of the new-configuration 744's, can't wait to get on one of those!!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
N1602 is a plane that I have been on as well back in July 2004 from Brussels to Atlanta.

Very cool!! I was happy too see it, I had only been on PW-powered DL 763's until that flight, N1602 was my first GE-powered bird.

Quoting chepos (Reply 16):
on the way back for the last two and hours and half the crew were sitting as we were experiencing light to moderate turbulence.

I enjoy the occasional moderate turbulence but for two hours.... yikes!!

Quoting 9V-SPJ (Reply 17):
What do you do at DL?

Nothing... yet. I work for a UAX carrier and one of my buddies works at DL. He put me as his enrolled friend and I put him as my enrolled friend, a bit of a 'flight benefits swap'.

Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 18):
What a small world, we just flew on ship 1602 to NCE on 24 Nov, got stuck in 1F/G!

To hell did you go to NCE for?!? Haha. I was wondering where 1602 was going onward too. N186DN was sitting in SFO next to us when we arrived. 186 was going onward to NRT and 1602 was going to either JFK or ATL.


Thanks to everyone for reading!!



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User currently offlineBZNPilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2006, 262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 25450 times:

Hi Transpac,

Great report as usual! Thanks for posting.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
JFK visible below my Comair CR9, on descent. My 744 can even be seen at the far end of T3, boarding already in progress. I think that's the tightest international connection I've ever made.

Awesome photo of JFK!! Still flying above the airport while your next flight is already boarding--that definitely makes for a tight connection! Glad you made it.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Takeoff on runway 13R out of JFK

Nice photo...love how the shadow is chasing you off the runway, while another aircraft is visible below on the perpendicular runway. Cool composition.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Got a few cool pictures too as we passed over Alaska and down into the Siberia region of Russia.
Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Sunrise over the Pacific, reflecting off our GE motors.

More nice pics...the frozen arctic with an orange sky...I've always thought there is something very cool about flying over that part of the world.

Look forward to more of your reports in the future.

Cheers,
BZNPilot


User currently offlinePs76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 25094 times:

Hello(!),

Just to say many thanks for the trip report. Was great to fly with you at least in writing and enjoy the long flights to Tokyo and back to San Francisco. Non-reving must be quite a cool experience, especially being in business class and stuff. Would love to try that out one day!

Many thanks,

Pierre


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