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Adventures In Kyushu: Japan With NH And DL  
User currently offlinesr117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12623 times:

Adventures in the Big Q Shoe with ANA

Background

The trip started off innocently enough, when the long awaited international terminal at Haneda was opened, allowing for longhaul flights into central Tokyo for the first time since the 70s. This may sound like small potatoes, but, before this milestone, doing something as seemingly simple as going from LAX to a secondary Japanese city like Kagoshima or Nagasaki would otherwise involve a transfer through Korea (ICN).

Wanting to become a part of this novelty I planned a trip to Japan based on this newfound convenience factor and the reportedly lightly booked initial flights.

Fortunately for ANA, loads soon picked up and LAX-HND flights started to actually look pretty full. When the idea of a lovely ANA flight with a row to myself turned into an idea of a long and headwind battered flight in a middle seat, my flesh became weak and I began to consider my options. The idea of doing the transpacific hop on a nice Delta Business Elite seat suddenly became much more tempting, even if it did involve a stopover in Narita.

Technically, same evening Narita-Haneda transfers are possible, but after a long transpacific flight, the last thing you want is to haul your bags through the Tokyo train system to Haneda (unless you feel like paying 3000yen for nonstop 2 hour limousine bus).

However, me becoming more comfort seeking as I grow older, much preferred a relaxing stopover at Narita rather than a hurried transfer.

DL 59 SFO-NRT
11 Nov 2010
12:00-16:55 (Scheduled)
12:00-17:20 (Actual)
J Class


I won't dwell too much on these Delta transpacific legs as they have been covered extensively by others in the past. I can only add that I was pleasantly surprised by the crew as I have been previously been surprised by other very friendly LAX based ex-NW crews on these transpacific flights.

I will instead concentrate on pics from this never-ending flight.

Unfortunately, nature likes to show who's boss every now and then, today the jetstream was feeling rather peppy, hence our flight to NRT was scheduled to be 11:30 minutes long, with added taxi times this resulted in a 12:20 minutes block to block time, outrageous ! I am seriously considering to introduce legislation to once and for all BAN headwinds on flights from the US West coast to Asia, signature collection starts tomorrow.


Delta International Check in Area at SFO


View of the ramp from Delta Sky Club entrance


Delta Sky Club at SFO


Kirin Ichiban at the Delta Sky Club SFO, I'm not regularly game for morning beers, but there were these Japanese ladies young and old who were having theirs, I'm not about to get beaten by tiny ladies !


DL 59 SFO-NRT


Business Elite on DL 767-300, they're old but they do the trick for me


View of SFO on takeoff from runway 01R


View of San Francisco with the Golden Gate


UA 747 heading off to Europe below us, turned over the Golden Gate and headed to the East


Beautiful view of San Francisco


Moving map, my favorite IFE choice


Inflight Entertainment, courtesy of Akina Nakamori ; )


Pepper crusted seared tuna with soybean and seaweed salad. Grilled peppers, feta and olives. Lettuce cream soup. Love the seared tuna.


Mixed green salad with pinenuts, cucumbers and cranberries.


Sauteed chicken breast with lemon caper sauce, roasted red radishes and potatoes. Chicken was a bit weak, too much acidity with the lime and capers, and the sauce was too watery. But I ate it all anyways, ha.


Cheese and fruit plate


+300km/h headwind, nasty : (


Roasted beef and herbed shrimp with devilled egg, roasted peppers and artichoke, I love the cold deli plate.

Arrival in NRT was after night fell so no pics unfortunately. We got to the gate at the same time as the 747 from LAX so it was a mad rush to immigration to avoid lines.

After the long flight, it was nice to be just one stop away from our hotel in Narita town, it's a very relaxed place to spend a stopover in as there's plenty of hotels and things to do within walking distance from the train station.

Spent the night at the small but effective APA Hotel Narita and relaxed at the Yamato no Yu spa in the nearby woods, perfect way to wind down after a long flight.


Tokyo Transfer

After proper night's sleep, we headed to central Tokyo for a breakfast buffet with a good friend at the Metropolitan Marunouchi, having heard the stories about catering on domestic japan flights it was a good idea to splurge here and enjoy some wonderful japanese style congee, natto and other japanese delicacies while taking in the views.


Japanese congee with fried wontons, chives, sesame, pickles and plums. Those plums tasted awesome.


The infamous natto, you know what? It wasn't that bad, in fact, I could get used to the taste. Those strings are very bothersome though.


Breakfast at the Metropolitan Marunouchi


A Piss with a View

There's something about Central Tokyo, never gets old, the glitz, the modernity, it's always nice to enjoy. After breakfast we took the Haneda Limousine bus from nearby Tokyo station. It's an excellent option and you're dropped off at Haneda about 25 minutes after getting on. Due to the APEC going on in Yokohama I got 2 see both Air Force 1 and 2 planes at a remote gate at Haneda, impressive to see them side by side so far from their home.

Check in at Haneda is pretty simple, there was a queue at the ticket line but it didn't take more than 10 minutes to get to the end of it so an agent could help us out.


Haneda Terminal 2 Check in




Premium check in at NH

Cool thing about this departure board at Haneda, it shows how full the flights are and the equipment being used, pretty neat eh ?


Very informative HND departure board

Getting to FUK from HND is a piece of cake with widebody departures on the hour and sometimes even more frequently. Was tempted to take a 747 but it was only scheduled to operate early morning and afternoon flights.


The target: NH253 with plenty of good seats available

NH253 HND-FUK
13 Nov 2010
12:30-14:25
Y Class


After some fast typing the lovely check in agent gave us our seats. She even understood my lowsy Japanese and gave me window seats as requested


Neato Japanese boarding pass

With check in out of the way there was still some time to check out the awesome viewing terrace at HND, unfortunately it was closed today, perhaps due to increased security for the APEC thing? Ah well, decided to just go to the gates instead.

Security at Haneda is pretty easy and efficient, we were through it in less than 5 minutes.

The gate area at HND is long long long and kinda boring ,I think most of the fun at HND, at least when it comes to terminal 2 is landside, with tons of restaurants, shops and the observation area.


The long hallways at Haneda

Once airside, I caught a glimpse of the 747 that was headed to Fukuoka one hour before us, it was actually scheduled to be smaller plane but was switched at the last minute (according to the departure board). Very cool sight to see a 747 flying such a short hop.


11:30 flight to Fukuoka

My disappointment about not flying a 747 was gone when I saw we were flying on ANA's new posterplane, the Gundam Jet !!! What would the future hold? Would I get cool Gundam toys ? Would the FA's dress up as robots and fight to the death in between green tea runs? the possibilities seemed so tantalizing.






Gundam gundam gundam !

When we got to the gate I caught the FA's boarding our plane and snapped a few pics of the area.






Departures to FUK at 12:30 and 14:00 from this gate, the gate next to us had another FUK departure at 13:30


Almost time to board

It must be said that boarding a flight in Japan is an amazing experience, especially when you are used to the slow and cumbersome boarding we get to see in the western hemisphere. Seeing a 777-300 fully board in 20 minutes is something to behold, how do they do it? Among other things, rollaboards seem to be much more rare, and they are significantly smaller which surely helps smooth things out. The 777 to Osaka next to us looked pretty full yet they still managed to board very quickly.

When it came to boarding time for our flight to FUK, I unfortunately was not as smooth as my Japanese friends, In fact, I probably reinforced all the negative stereotypes that mention foreigners as incapable of integrating into Japanese society.

In my short 5 minutes between passing the boarding gate and taking my seat I managed to clog up the line by not scanning my boarding pass correctly, ran over a nice elderly guy's foot with my rollaboard (his foot got in the way, I didn't see it until it was too late, gomenasai   !!) and I finally slammed my head unceremoniously into an overheard bin before getting into my seat. Really, a dashing and debonaire entrance this was not.


Finally in my seat, whew !

To aid in boarding, both jetways were used, with the first jetbridge labelled for people seated in first class along with those seated on right side of the airplane, and the second jetbridge for the rest of the airplane.

Within about 10-15 minutes most people were on board, unlike the earlier flights, our flight was far from full, which is the just the way I liked it ; )

Despite the 3-4-3 configuration, legroom didn't seem too bad, it seemed much more roomy because the middle seat was empty which always helps make for a comfortable ride.




Gratuitous knee shot

We taxied out to Haneda's brand spanking new seabound runway. Seems quite amazing to see the taxiways built right on the sea, quite a nice work of engineering.


Ramp at HND


Taxiway on stilts



Got to catch a glimpse of the South Korean presidential plane on arrival, seems that we had a veritable red carpet of VIP aircraft at Haneda today.

Departure from HND was very very scenic as we went over central Tokyo and had a great view of the city, unfortunately no view of Fuji-San though.




Plane on final approach to HND




Incoming and outgoing traffic


Haneda overview


Central Tokyo









In flight service on NH's domestic flights is now very much a no frills affair, the only things available for free seem to be green tea (iced and hot) or water. Everything else is in a handy little menu.


FA's doing their drink runs


ANA My Choice Menu


Drink sets


Some food


That Okinawa bagel looks pretty tasty, too bad it's only available on Okinawa flights.

Still being full from breakfast I was fine with just some green tea. And I really do love the green tea served on ANA.


ANA hot green tea

We had an army of FA's who were constantly passing around the cabin to keep everything in check and offering stuff for sale from the catalog.


Loooong plane





The ANA catalogs themselves are full of neat goodies for aviation lovers, albeit a bit too pricey.


Goodies


O_O


O_O

Unfortunately, the FA's did not dress up as robots to engage in hand to hand combat, c'est la vie, at least the flight was short so the lack of an in flight performance was not as tragic.










Shinkansen headed to Hakata station

We descended into a cloudy Fukuoka and landed on runway 16.

Quickly pulled into Fukuoka's Terminal 2 where I managed to snap a nicer shot of our bird.


Fukuoka airport viewing terrace






Arrival area at Fukuoka airport


My very very manly stored value transportation card: subway, shopping,buses, pay for everything with your handy sugoca!


My plane is even on a booklet at the hotel, btw, yes, the Gundam jet is now officially my plane !

Conclusions

ANA's Domestic service is nowadays pretty basic and far from luxurious, the remarkable and noteworthy thing with NH is still the wonderful attitude of staff at every point of contact, they truly make the difference between an otherwise pedestrian experience and make flying a pleasure.


Adventures in Kyushu

Most of my previous Japanese experience had been around Tokyo and the Kansai area, so I was happy to get a taste of a different part of the country.

Kyushu is an easy place to get around thanks to the rather nifty and cheap JR rail pass (65 bucks for 3 days, not too shabby  )

Fukuoka makes a great base for daytrips as most spots in northern Kyushu are 2 hours or less away (Sasebo, Nagasaki, Beppu, Yufuin, Kumamoto).

Here are a few pics from this very nice part of Japan:


Gorgeous Nagasaki, well worth a visit


Palm trees and old buildings at the Dutch slope in Nagasaki




You better have good knees here


Beautiful city on the hlls


Glover Garden and Nagasaki Harbor


Beautiful Glover Garden


Yup, this is Japan !


Oldest stone bridge in Japan




Powerlines and hills


White Kamome train


Space age !


Love trains


Kumamoto Castle





Kumamoto City





Suizenji Park in Kumamoto


Suizenji Park


New Shinkansen coming to Kyushu, how does 4 hours from Kagoshima to Osaka sound?


Relay Tsubame train


Self catering


Retro train




Mmmmm, tonkatsu sandwich


Beautiful autumn


Yufuin No Mori, limited express to Yufuin


Yufuin, Oita


Autumn in full swing




Beautiful wilderness




Red




Hotsprings


Glitzy Hakata


Food stands in Fukuoka


Tenjin in Fukuoka


Fukuoka Subway


Stations in Fukuoka all have a neat logo


Shopping and Art in the same building (Asian Art Museum on top, shops below)


Ohori Park in Fukuoka


Yahoo dome and Fukuoka Tower in the back


Relaxed waterside living

[Edited 2010-11-25 01:20:27]

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User currently offlinesr117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12618 times:

NH 1678
17 Nov 2010
FUK-ITM
11:30-12:35


All too soon it was time to head back to Mexico, however the fun was not quite over yet.

Fukuoka airport is very convenient as it is only 2 subway stations away from the main train station at Hakata, and only 3 stops away from the Dormy Inn-Hakata where I was staying at.

The subway to the airport took less than 15 minutes so arriving at 11am I figured there was plenty of time to catch the 12:30 flight to Osaka-Itami.

The domestic check in area at FUK is simple and straightforward. It was interesting to hear the old style name for ANA mentioned during a loudspeaker announcement (Zennikku, 全日空) instead of the now ubiquitous "ANA", I gotta admit I like zennikku a lot better, sounds so firm and authoritative  .


FUK's domestic check in area



We were greeted by a nice ANA employee who directed us to an empty ticket counter. I tried to ask in my best japanese to be put on the 12:30 flight, however we were actually put on the 11:30 flight, by now it was already 11:05 so I guess this means we should run ? ha.

I was surprised by the efficient procedures at HND, but I was even more surprised by things here at FUK.


24 minutes to departure

So it's 11:06 and we're supposed to depart on a Dash 8 that's parked at a remote stand at 11:30. This looks bad, but only 2 minutes later we're through security. Not bad, not bad at all.





Surprise is magnified when I get to the gate and see that boarding has not even started yet. What gives? The flight should be departing in 15 minutes ! Fortunately there's time to gate check our bags, snap some pics and and even a bathroom break, phew.





Boarding soon comes and we're loaded onto a bus. You gotta love these bus rides along the ramp at an airport, always a great view.






Our Dash-8-400 for Osaka-Itami





Boarded the plane at 11:23, I figured we'd be delayed for sure but to my surprise, the fully loaded Dash-8-400 was boarded and closing doors at 11:30. Now that is efficiency !! Despite being lightning fast, the entire sequence from check in to boarding seemed natural and unrushed.

The Dash-8 seemed quite roomy for a small aircraft , I think I had more legroom than on the 777-300.


More hardcore knee pics


Heavy metal





Soon we were rocketing off runway 34 and on our way to Osaka's Itami airport.


Steep climb






Thai and JAL next in line for departure from FUK

Service again was the basic green tea and water run. It was also nice to see the FA's come along with with toys for a little kid, heeeey, I want my inflatable ANA plane too ; ) Unfortunately, after getting that bright pink sugoca card I think I've exhausted my cutesy allowance for the entire year.






Mmm, more green tea


Overflying Oita airport

The rest of the flight was uneventful, most people seemed to doze off and I enjoyed the awesome views of the approach into Itami, the Kansai area is absolutely huge and the approach was impressive.




Peace tower near Osaka


Vast Kansai area














Dense population around Itami



I was finally in the legendary Itami airport ! At once hated by neighbors, now they don't want to let it go. And wow, it sure looks like a blast from the past. And a sorta nasty one at that.


Love walking around the ramp


I like you Dash-8


Itami Airport




Baggage claim


I'm gonna treasure this bagtag


Landside at Itami


Conclusions

NH service is very very basic nowadays, but they still are very much a pleasure to fly on. It's all about the attitude I think. Efficient infrastructure at Japanese airports helps a lot too, as those lightning fast check-in to boarding gate times take a lot of the hassle and frustration out of the air travel equation, kudos to ANA !


Transfer to Kansai

After arriving at Itami it was really just the beginning of the trip. Getting from ITM to KIX can be relatively easy since you can take a nonstop limousine bus for 3000yen, or you can also connect in downtown and save around 1000 yen by taking another bus or the train to KIX. Since I wanted to stop for one last mosburger the transfer thing made sense to me.


Salad Express? :S


Bus to Namba


Central Osaka


I shall miss you mosburger


How peculiar...


900yen train to Kansai


DL182 KIX-SEA
17 Nov 2010
18:50-11:50
J Class



Delta check in counters

Kansai airport still looks very nice after all of these years, although it has been pretty much eclipsed today by airports like ICN, HKG or even NGO which seem more modern and upscale. But there's a very nice selection of reasonably priced restaurants and shopping in the landside part of the airport, and decent shopping airside too (Royce chocolates, woo !)




Relaxing






Red


Blue


Yellow

Here are a few shots for the flight back to Seattle, it seemed crazy that the flight back would only take 8 hours, when the flight coming over took almost 12, I was actually looking forward to some sleeping time : (

You don't really get to rest much since dinner service probably ends about 2 hours after takeoff and breakfast is served 1 hour before landing which leaves you about 5 hours of lights off time.


Light load tonight


Always hard to leave


This should help ease the pain


So quick?


Cream of onion, grilled rosemary shrimp, goat cheese mousse, tomato and olives, great appetizer.


Grilled salmon with tomato saffron sauce, snow peas and basmati rice. Tastes better than it looks.


Almost off to bed


Riding the jetstream


Fruitcicles for breakfast

Customs at SEA were quick as was security reclearance. Then it was off to SLC and finally down to SAN.


Closing Remarks

Japan really is a wonderful country, I highly recommend venturing outside of the big cities and visiting some of the quieter spots, tourism infrastructure really is top notch and getting around is truly a pleasure and hassle free.

I'm really looking forward to DL starting the HND flight and having the airport opened to more service by more carriers in the future. Other than going through ICN, flights to most of Japan currently involve either the limited options at NRT, or an inconvenient 2 hour airport transfer from NRT to HND or KIX to ITM.

I do apologize for the heavy picture load but it was the most efficient way of getting the story across, many thanks for reading, questions or comments are welcome.

Thanks for stopping by !

Ricardo

[Edited 2010-11-25 00:58:19]

[Edited 2010-11-25 00:59:51]

User currently offlineTBloemink From Netherlands, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11937 times:

Nice trip report! Good to hear you had a great trip!
I'd love to fly DL one time, must be a good airline (with Dutch entertainment, never seen a foreign carrier with Dutch entertainment. Probably because of Skyteam and Air France-KLM)

TB



Flown on: A300, A319, A320, A330, A380, B717, B734, B738, B739, B747, B777
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6758 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11749 times:

Hi Ricardo,

absolutely stunning report with countless high-quality pictures! The catering on DL looks great, very impressive.

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
+300km/h headwind, nasty : (

Wow, that's a lot!

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
A Piss with a View

Japan and restrooms...

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
It must be said that boarding a flight in Japan is an amazing experience, especially when you are used to the slow and cumbersome boarding we get to see in the western hemisphere. Seeing a 777-300 fully board in 20 minutes is something to behold, how do they do it?

Amazing, isn't it? And one shouldn't forget that ANA's 773s are the world's highest density twins...

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
Gratuitous knee shot

Yes, legroom is quite generous on these high density birds.


I also visited some of the mentioned places on a spotting tour some years ago, I was very impressed by Japan. Actually I cannot wait to go again. Here are some links:
The 524-Seat Twin-jet: HND-ITM On ANA 777-300 (by PlaneHunter Jan 21 2008 in Trip Reports)
Kobe For 1 Hour: 767-Quickie On ANA & Skymark (by PlaneHunter Dec 31 2007 in Trip Reports)
Rocketing To Tokyo: FUK-HND On JAL (ex-JAS) 777 (by PlaneHunter Dec 15 2007 in Trip Reports)
Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic) (by PlaneHunter Dec 3 2007 in Trip Reports)

PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1931 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11623 times:
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Hey Ricardo!

What a wonderful report! Your photos are fantastic! Especially the pictures that seem so simple; like the headrest on your ANA flight, made to look so interesting!

The food on DL looks pretty good on your flights. I remember flying on the 767-300ER in those Business Elite seats many years ago; they were pretty comfy if I can remember!

I'd love to visit Japan too. What an impressive country!

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineEconojetter From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 430 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10896 times:

Hello Ricardo,

Thanks for another delightful report. I used to travel quite often to Nagasaki for work, so some of the views you captured in your excellent photography are familiar. You did not visit the Atomic Bomb museum/memorial site?

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
the last thing you want is to haul your bags through the Tokyo train system to Haneda (unless you feel like paying 3000yen for nonstop 2 hour limousine bus).

Would it have been significantly cheaper to go through the train system?

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
our flight to NRT was scheduled to be 11:30 minutes long, with added taxi times this resulted in a 12:20 minutes block to block time, outrageous ! I am seriously considering to introduce legislation to once and for all BAN headwinds on flights from the US West coast to Asia, signature collection starts tomorrow.

Signature collection... sounds like a long process, plus it'll probably get vetoed by God at the end anyway.
I was on SQ1 SFO-HKG a couple of days ago and it took us just over 15h gate-to-gate. Of course, much of it had to do with the routing (Alaska, Russia and China - overflying Beijing and Wuhan). The headwinds on the more direct routing must have been awful.

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
View of SFO on takeoff from runway 01R

We must have been pretty heavy because we took most of 28R to get airborne. I figure you guys used up most of 01R since it is quite a bit shorter, or maybe you took off into a good amount of wind.

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
After proper night's sleep, we headed to central Tokyo for a breakfast buffet with a good friend at the Metropolitan Marunouchi

I think this is the hotel I overnighted at (so far the only night I spent in central Tokyo). The lobby was at some high-ish floor (16?) with a large atrium that reached several floors up. It is beautiful and I did not have a proper camera to do it justice but here are a couple of night shots from my cellphone:
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/Econojetter/Tokyo_200805/30052008006.jpg
View down the atrium onto the lobby area
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/Econojetter/Tokyo_200805/30052008009.jpg
Styling on one of the floors

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
The infamous natto, you know what? It wasn't that bad, in fact, I could get used to the taste. Those strings are very bothersome though.

I have yet to learn how to eat it elegantly without looking like I just sucked 10 spiders off their webs. I agree, the taste isn't bad though.

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
Cool thing about this departure board at Haneda, it shows how full the flights are and the equipment being used, pretty neat eh ?

It is so practical. I have gotten on earlier flights on a couple of occasions thanks to that display.

Quoting sr117 (Thread starter):
We taxied out to Haneda's brand spanking new seabound runway. Seems quite amazing to see the taxiways built right on the sea, quite a nice work of engineering.

Wow... nice! The last time I was there it was still under construction.

Quoting sr117 (Reply 1):
It was also nice to see the FA's come along with with toys for a little kid, heeeey, I want my inflatable ANA plane too ; )

My nephew has an inflatable ANA 787 (with the shark tail - how appropriate in the swimming pool). Sigh... when do we finally get to ride in an actual 787?

Quoting sr117 (Reply 1):
This should help ease the pain

A lot of pain you were in.

A couple of photos from Kyushu (apologies for the poor quality):

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/Econojetter/Nagasaki_200812/23112008006.jpg
From a little house atop Glover Garden. Look at the size of the koi.

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/Econojetter/Nagasaki_200812/23112008007.jpg
Some spot in Glover Garden.

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/Econojetter/Nagasaki_200812/14122008003.jpg
Canals, bridges, windmills, hills... Hills?? Dutch-themed resort town of Huis Ten Bosch (not far from Sasebo if I remember correctly)


User currently offlineardian From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10847 times:

Oh my what a trip! I absolutely envy you   Tripreports like this makes me longing even more to visit Japan some day (hands down my #1 on my holiday wishlist). Stunning pictures too!

User currently offlineDavidCA From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 69 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10731 times:

Nice TR! I love Japan myself--when there I'm never sure whether it's more fun to fly around, or to ride the Shinkansen. Your pics of the fall scenery are awesome.

DL's catering looked really interesting, though the 763 C cabin looks overdue for a refit. Did you not want to fly AM direct from TIJ?

I'm glad that Mos Burger have yet another fan abroad. Tough to leave them behind. I tend to feel the same way about Sanborns when I leave your city.   Mos and Sanborns should both expand to Canada!

[Edited 2010-11-25 21:06:18]

User currently offlinesr117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10567 times:

Many thanks for the replies.

Quoting TBloemink (Reply 2):
I'd love to fly DL one time, must be a good airline (with Dutch entertainment, never seen a foreign carrier with Dutch entertainment. Probably because of Skyteam and Air France-KLM)

I can't complain about how Delta has treated me, hehe, just try to make sure to be on an airbus or 777 so that you're guaranteed AVOD. Makes a big difference to have decent entertainment at your fingertips.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Japan and restrooms...

They know how to do restrooms, how I wish that a worldwide washlet craze would sweep the planet. Celebrities need to get involved  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Amazing, isn't it? And one shouldn't forget that ANA's 773s are the world's highest density twins...

I wonder if there's any plans to switch to the slimline seats you got on the 767?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
I also visited some of the mentioned places on a spotting tour some years ago, I was very impressed by Japan. Actually I cannot wait to go again.

I was just checking them out actually, awesome series ! You got to see quite a bit, you're lucky that you got to check out Okinawa and ride on a domestic 747 ; )

Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):

The food on DL looks pretty good on your flights. I remember flying on the 767-300ER in those Business Elite seats many years ago; they were pretty comfy if I can remember!

I sort of prefer the old style recliners vs the slip and slide lay flats on old NW planes, just as I liked the old UA C class seat. As long as the person in front of you isn't fully reclined as well you're pretty well off.

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 5):
Thanks for another delightful report. I used to travel quite often to Nagasaki for work, so some of the views you captured in your excellent photography are familiar. You did not visit the Atomic Bomb museum/memorial site?

You lucky guy ! I had read others mentioning Nagasaki was nice but it was still surprising to see just how different it was to other Japanese cities. Unfortunately I was there only one day so we just wandered on foot through the main city area. The hills look so tempting for a long walk, full of temples and whatnot, but you also need a lot of energy ; )

To be honest, I was too much of a chicken to visit the bomb museum, the city put me in such a good mood that I just didn't want to end the day on such a sad note. I read up on things after getting home and it's terrible to think that the main part of the city would have been wiped out if the bomb had fallen where it was supposed to. Of course, while the people in one valley were spared by the mountains, the people in the other one weren't so lucky. It's impossible to not be moved by what happened there.

In any case I will definitely go back, it must be a really nice place when the weather is warmer.

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 5):
Look at the size of the koi.

The koi fish at glover garden are HUGE, they look like they're gonna jump out of the water and snatch your lunch right from your hand ; )

Huis Ten Bosch sounded like an interesting mix indeed, it was tempting to go to nearby Sasebo to try the famed Sasebo Burger, ha, but it was just too long of a train ride this time around.

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 5):
I think this is the hotel I overnighted at (so far the only night I spent in central Tokyo). The lobby was at some high-ish floor (16?) with a large atrium that reached several floors up.

Yes ! that was exactly it, looked very nice indeed, I am craving that congee right now, arrrggg.

I share your thoughts on eating natto tidily being a challenging task. I read that you are supposed to let the strings settle a bit and then just dig into it. More research is in order  
Quoting Econojetter (Reply 5):
Would it have been significantly cheaper to go through the train system?

Yes ! Very much so, the cheapest train routing to Haneda (involving 2 changes and taking 136 minutes) is 1590yen, there's another 110 minute routing that costs 1740yen. Multiplied by 2 people, the savings are more than the price of one buffet breakfast at the Metropolitan. ; )

Quoting Econojetter (Reply 5):
We must have been pretty heavy because we took most of 28R to get airborne. I figure you guys used up most of 01R since it is quite a bit shorter, or maybe you took off into a good amount of wind.

I was surprised to take off from that runway, most heavies were using the 28s, it was nice as we got to see that UA plane beneath, too bad I didn't have my telephoto on.

Quoting DavidCA (Reply 7):
DL's catering looked really interesting, though the 763 C cabin looks overdue for a refit. Did you not want to fly AM direct from TIJ?

Fortunately they'll be refitted with new seats in the next few years ; ) Still, I will sort of miss those old seats. AM, well, if I nonrev with them, they put me in Y, haha. Besides, I wasn't terribly keen on their J class offering when I tried it, I think DL offers a much better hard and soft product.

Quoting DavidCA (Reply 7):
I'm glad that Mos Burger have yet another fan abroad. Tough to leave them behind. I tend to feel the same way about Sanborns when I leave your city.

Ha, glad to know I'm not alone, so many options ! Tonkatsu burger, chili burger, rice patty burgers, they had a very nice hokkaido croquette burger with mushroom sauce this time around. My stomach is growling now : )
Sanborns eh ? yes they have good eggs, if you're ever down here again I'll point you to some great spots.

Quoting ardian (Reply 6):
Oh my what a trip! I absolutely envy you Tripreports like this makes me longing even more to visit Japan some day (hands down my #1 on my holiday wishlist).

You won't regret it, any time of year you go there's something special going on, summer can be a bit too hot though.


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10202 times:

absolutely loved your report and some stunning pics - both avia and non aviation. Fantastic. I really enjoyed following your travels. Likewise, I am a huge fan of Japan and was last there in 2007. We were amazed how great the Japanese are with aviation and the fantastic facilities which most airports provide to spotters there.

Thanks so much for posting - look forward to your next report! P/jet



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User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10078 times:

Hi

Lovely report with stunning pics of Kyushu.

It's interesting that you flew on a larger jet on the HND-FUK leg than the Transpac flight and then you crashed back down to earth and flew on a 70 seat Dash-8. I guess that's a bit of novelty for you.

Just a question, what was the load like for the KIX-SEA flight.

Regards
aflyingkiwi


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 9734 times:

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 9):
We were amazed how great the Japanese are with aviation and the fantastic facilities which most airports provide to spotters there.

Indeed, every airport seems to have a nice observation deck with usually plenty of people enjoying the views. There's an observation deck at KIX too but since it's off the main building I didn't venture in it, you get nice views from the terminal building in any case. Thanks for the comments, plotting the next adventure as we speak ; )

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 10):

It's interesting that you flew on a larger jet on the HND-FUK leg than the Transpac flight and then you crashed back down to earth and flew on a 70 seat Dash-8. I guess that's a bit of novelty for you.

I loved the little Dash, it was a comfortable ride and those windows gave us a great view of the scenery below. The Dash-8 flight was blocked at 1:05 vs 1:00 flat for the 737/767 flights on the same route. Considering the faster boarding and deplaning, I think I'll take the Dash flight anytime ; )

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 10):

Just a question, what was the load like for the KIX-SEA flight.

Very light, about 50% in J and 65% in Y. A bit unusual, actually, most flights out of NRT were very full, hence why I decided to fly out of Kansai instead.

Ricardo


User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9667 times:

Thanks a lot for your report. Such a wonderful read! It brought back many memories from my own trips to Japan!

I agree the boarding efficiency in Japan is quite amazing!


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2022 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 9516 times:

Fantastic report! Japan is a great country. I've only had the chance to spend a few days in Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka, and going by your pictures there is so much more to see!

Thanks a lot for sharing. By the way, what camera and lens are you using?

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9085 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 13):
Fantastic report! Japan is a great country. I've only had the chance to spend a few days in Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka, and going by your pictures there is so much more to see!

Thanks a lot for sharing. By the way, what camera and lens are you using?

Thanks for the comments, indeed, there is much to see. The pics were taken with a Nikon D90 dslr (18-105mm lens) and a point and shoot Canon S90, the Nikon is great, but it's noisy and clunky, sometimes you just want to quietly grab a snapshot and that's what the S90 is perfect for   I'm very happy with both.

Ricardo


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