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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6175 posts, RR: 30
Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6167 times:
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I thought that in the last trip report of these series I did not include pictures of some imoortant parts. So I want to include some pics of Mendoza City here, which is a beautiful city and the place I want to go when I retire. If anbody feels bored, just scroll down to the REAL pics and the report on this wonderful LAN flight that had nothing to do with the inbound AR 1420.

LAN Argentina is light years away from their counterpart AR and I hope you can see this from this report. Fight data will come after the Mendoza city pictures which I hope you enjoy. Again, if that is not your thing you can always scroll down to the real deal.

The following picture is The Plaza de San Martín or San Martín square. The statue of José de San Martiín, as you can see is pointing West, to the Andes,which he was able to cross to get to to Chile and get the Spanish out. Every single statue of San Martín in Argentina points to the same direction. Which is nifty because you know wherever you are just ask for the San Martin square and wherever he´s statue is pointing, that is WEST he is pointing West, and it´s then hard to keep being lost.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511055.jpg

Another view

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511056.jpg

This one really, really moves me. Think about it. Crossing the Andes in the 1800´s? And he did it and went on to liberate Chile and Perú. It´s at the same level at what Sir Ernest Shachkleton did to rescue his men 110 years later.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511054.jpg

I added the following two pictures so readers could get an idea about the impotance of the San Martin square

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511053.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511052.jpg

So that´s it for San Martín. Whoever wants to know more about him and his campaigns PM me or E-mail me.

I had a tough time at night in Mendoza since it´s a quite city. So I walked and walked and walked at night. Here are some picures of Avenida 9 de Julio. Everybody told me to be careful. "It´s dangerous, you can´t walk like that at night, you are going to get muuuuuugged!!!! Nothing ever happened.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511067.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511066.jpg

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Bonus: The new Sheraton Mendoza Hotel. A ripp off. There are tons of hostels in MDZ, as well as 3 star hotels taht are very good. I got my apartment (not a hostel) for 250 USD for 4 weeks, ona perfectly central location. But The Sheraton ihas a casino and it is also centrally located. Although I wonder how one of the usual Mendoza earthquakes feels in the upper floors though. Good luck toyou if you get caught in one of those.

But if you want to go to Mendoza, There are much better and cheaper places you can stay. PM me.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511071.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511070.jpg

My view from my apartment. You can see the precordillera.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511069.jpg

And another little bonus. AR stopped operating its 727-287s in 1995, if I recall correctly, except for that crappy 727-23 that lasted until 1996.


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And what´s it doing at MEX, anyway?

So I give you this picture: It´s in the main Aerolineas Argentinas office in Mendoza, still in the Iberia blue Vincha colors.

1) I don´t know if it´s there as a protest against IB, which was responsible for the 727-287 leaving the fleet.

2) The staff have foogtotten about it.

3) Thay have no idea they actaully have displays. Frankly, by how clean they are, that could be a possibillity

4) they don´t know it´s an aircraft they don´t have in their fleet anymore

5) They think we just entered the jetn age and they NEED to let passersby see a jet in the display

6) Thy don´t give a shit.

Wanna take a guess at the real reason?

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/Mendoza%20City/LH511058.jpg

Now for the real report:

Date: Wednesday, December the 15ht. 2010
Flight: LAN Argentina 4241 MDZ-AEP Fare Y, seat 11L (originally)
Scheduled Dep: 10:05 AM local
Departed 10:15 AM local
Wheels up: 10:25 AM local
Plane: Boeing Airbus A320, I was unable to get the registration, apologies
Top of descent 11:25 AM local
Touchdown: 11:55 AM local
Time en route 1 hr. 35 mins.

My LAN 4241 Electronic ticket



My cousin, picked me up at 8:45. You have to understand, in MDZ, the airport is at most a 7 mins. drive from the city center and Mendocinos consider it "outside the city" .I had the idea of having BREAKFAST WITH MY COUSIN IN 15 OR 20 MINS.

Turns out he came to pick me up with my younguer nephew, Fernando, who wanted to see me off before school so there was no time for breakfast, just a drive to the ariport and a quick, tearful, (yeah, I now, embarrasing but this is people I see only once every 5 or 6 years) This nephew, for example, that adores me is 11. Next time I see him he´ll be 16. You think he´ll see the same way?

Fernando, sullen, on the way to the airport.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LH499145.jpg

I arrived at the airport which is small but nifty and smart and proceeded to do my check in, but my cousin left. He coudn´t stay, and I did not eat any breakfast.

The following counter really strikes me. TACA was so sure they were going to get their authoriztion for their flights that they had this. And this must not be cheap:

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511077.jpg

Here´s the one from our newest Skyteam Member.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511080.jpg

It still makes no sense to me why AR and AU are a separate entity with crews that don´t talk to each other. And even get into fist fights that result in one day strikes. Oh well. Welcome AR/AU to SkyTeam.

And finally, my counter, frankly, a haven and LAN Argentina is an operation that resembles the best in the world. I´m surprised Cristina has not kicked them out yet. As much as I resent them because they are a good and respectable rival to AM I have to admit that LAN Argentina is an airline I´ll fly again and again without thinking about it twice. Specially after what happened to me in the flight later on.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511078.jpg

My BP and related documents. This time they respected my window emergency exit without so much as a peep. The whole check in process took 4 mins and I was ready to go.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511088.jpg

Once I got my BP I went airside to have nice views of the MDZ runway which is a partiicularly good airport.

Here you can see my plane has just arrived from Bs As in the two pics and passengers are still disembarking. I can´t give you an exact time but by know I believe it was 09:25 AM

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511082.jpg

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511081.jpg

I saw this airline from the window of the airside waiting room. I have no idea about it. Nice SAAB 340 though, "Sol" anybody knows anything?

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511087.jpg

By the way, the above is the only air bridge MDZ has. Kind of surreal. But I guess they don´t need more. I´ve only used it once on a flight on LAN from SCL. It seems that in Argentina, to get the nice things you need to come as a foreigner.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511087.jpg

At 09:50 AM time came to board and we walked to the aircraft. By then it had been close to 2 hours after my breakfast time and I was feeling kind of not very well. But I did not want to get dropped off the flight. So I proceeded and got on board the aircraft into my seat.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511089.jpg

Getting closer

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511090.jpg

Almost in

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511091.jpg

The cabin. You have no idea. I wish I could have taken picures of the inbound AR 737-700W Y cabin just for comparison. If you are ever in Argentina. Fly LAN.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511093.jpg

This is my seat

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511094.jpg

Cabin view from my seat

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511098.jpg

Nice, blue, comfortable leather. The problem was that by that time I was feeling hypoglicemia coming and it would have been irresponsible of me to sit in the emergency exit especially through takeoff. So I rang the call button before boardingn was over and the purser came and I have to admit that I lied,.

Again I did not want to be left behind, and I don´t now protocols for hypoglycemia but I knew I could not in good conscience occupy that seat. I just asked to be moved to another window and she moved me, but she must have seen my face because she asked if I was all right. I responded by saying that yes, I was fine.

Obligatory shot from my emergency exit window seat. I still had not changed.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511096.jpg

By this time, I was begging for takeoff so some sort of meal with some quantity of sugar could be given to me. Otherwise, with the amount of insuline I had gotten earlier, I was minutes from passing out. By then I was dizzy, nauseous, and white as a sheet.

Views from Mendoza airport while taxiing to takeoff. In the following picture we had just pushed back and turned. In this picture you can basically see all of MDZ aiport (the civilian part, the rest, which is huge is still a major FAA air force)

It´s neat, nifty, and has a beautiful airbridge ready to receive the Americans coming on AA on a not too distant future. You can be sure they won´t use it for the Argentines coming on AR from domestic flights.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511099.jpg

This is part of the military complex. If you look closely, you can see an IA-63 PAMPA taxiing. I´m not into military planes, but this miilitary bird IS pretty

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511100.jpg

We did finally took off and they gave us an adequate meal as soon as the 10,000 ft chime sounded. Nothinng great, but I´d say enough. In reality, the same as AR´s.

I´d like to point out here that there were 4 young but competent FAs aboard, as opposed to the three laughable AR FA´s.

No. This 4 LAN FA´s meant business and were serious and professional, although young.

The meal

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511101.jpg

Unfortunately the meal came too late. By then I tried to eat it but I only wanted to throw up so I got up and went to the back bathroom explaining my probelm to the the FA I saw in the back galley. I entered the toilette, sat down on it and while i´m sure I did not pass out the FA who saw me enter opened the door soon after and helped me out and sat me in one of the crew seats they have in the back galley. She told me to stay there and then went to get the purser.

The purser came and I really had no humor to do it but I could not help a smile. She was so young, but had such a SERIOUS attitutde and a pair of glasses that was just surreal. Between the purser and the other FA they sat me in an aisle seat with a female passenger in thewindow and explained the situation to her. They IN NO uncertain terms asked if she was willing and able to take care of me for the rest of the flight. She said no problem, she was very nice about it and smiled throughout.

Pic from my new aisle seat, in the window is my nice appointed "nurse" I guess that is the real legroom. Still, miles away from that AR where you have to twist your knees.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511103.jpg

A random cabin pick

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511092.jpg

Another cabin pick from my nurse´s station seat

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511098.jpg

This is LAN´s Magazine. I don´t know if they have different versions. This one has two or three pieces worth reading

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511095.jpg

And this is where things turn funny. I was sitll dizzy, but I had forced myself to eat the meal provided by LAN so I was feeling a lot better.

But at that point, the purser came to my seat, we must have been 45 mins, out of Bs As and she told me that the Captain was aware of my situation and he wanted to know how I was feeling.


She said the Captain was ready to ask for an expedited arrival and for AEP emergency services to meet us at the gate. She was so serious it was scary. To be honest I was amazingly impressed at such professionalism on both the cabin and flight crew but I just told her that as long as she kept bringing me alfajores and cokes things would be fine. She insisted: The Captain has told me we can be in the ground in the next 20 mins. I said thank you again, but that by then I was feeling fine, and please keep the cokes coming. Boy, did they never stopped.

My seat mate nurse was really nice, kept asking me questions and making converstation, and boy, what a pain it must be to be travelling on a row to yourself and suddenly have a sick passenger dropped on the aisle seat and be asked by the crew to watch him. I´m very grateful to that woman and I would never forget her. I have her busness card.

Nor will I ever forget the professionalism of the crew. Amazing those 4 FAs. My opinion of LAN was not very good until this flight but after this experience, my respects. They really know how to train their crew.

And that´s it for this report.

Here´s a Schyzophrenic AR plane taxiing by in AEP

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy71/AR385/LAN%204241/LH511106.jpg

Be expectant of my next report. LH EZE-FRA in F. IT should be very interesting

Regards.


MGGS
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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5394 times:

Nice report, seems than you had a better excpercience on LAN than on AR.
Looking forward to the EZE-FRA sector.



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

Nice pictures and trip report!!

Makes me want to go to Argentina!!!

LAN's A320 look good on the inside and seems the service is pretty decent. Like MX's service and launch.

Quoting AR385 (Thread starter):
Here´s a Schyzophrenic AR plane taxiing by in AEP

I really don't like that livery at all. Such a bad taste.

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineMarambio From Argentina, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

Hey AR385,

Glad you liked Mendoza. I still haven't visited the place, yet everybody I know who went there loves the city and its people.

Please let me give you information regarding some of the claims you made on your report:

1) Airbridges: On international flights the whole boarding/de-boarding process is slower, since passengers must clear immigration and customs before take-off/after landing. So, in order to speed up the whole thing -at least in Argentina- airbridges are generally allocated to international flights. Otherwise, pax would have to clear immigration and customs and then wait first for the bus to come, then for all other people to board the bus and only afterwards they'd be able to board the plane.
This said -and because this is Argentina after all- on domestic flights, airbridge-assignment is quite random. I fly myself very often from AEP to COR and many times I get to use the jetway, whilst many other times I don't.

2) SOL Líneas Aéreas (8R): It's an airline established in the earlier 2000s by a business group from ROS. They fly a bunch of Saab 340s accross destinations in Argentina and Uruguay. Thus far, they're business plan seems to be working very fine, for they open new routes every 2 months or so. SOL has managed to achieve a goal no other airline in Argentina reached (not even AR) - that is, to fly domestic routes without stopping over at Buenos Aires. Even though they keep a mini-hub at AEP, most of its flights avoid the big city. Their two major hubs at located at ROS and COR.

Saludos,
Marambio



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6175 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4891 times:
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Quoting MSS658 (Reply 1):
Nice report, seems than you had a better excpercience on LAN than on AR.
Looking forward to the EZE-FRA sector.


Yes, much much better, I should have been more careful with my diabetic issues but I´m still not an expert at that. LAN Argentina is a world class airline and their fares are cheaper by AR, by 10 USD usuallly, but it´s the principle of the matter. I guess that way Cristina can´t say there is a state monopoly.

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 2):
Nice pictures and trip report!!

Makes me want to go to Argentina!!!

LAN's A320 look good on the inside and seems the service is pretty decent. Like MX's service and launch.

Thank you, great compliment coming from you. You definitely should, but, my personal point of view, try mid-Spring, Summer and up to mid Autumn. During the Winter I don´t like Argentina. It´s like two countries.

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 2):
I really don't like that livery at all. Such a bad taste.

It´s not a matter of bad taste for me. It´s like it just says nothing to me. Nothing.

Quoting Marambio (Reply 3):
Hey AR385,

Glad you liked Mendoza. I still haven't visited the place, yet everybody I know who went there loves the city and its people.

Please let me give you information regarding some of the claims you made on your report:

1) Airbridges: On international flights the whole boarding/de-boarding process is slower, since passengers must clear immigration and customs before take-off/after landing. So, in order to speed up the whole thing -at least in Argentina- airbridges are generally allocated to international flights. Otherwise, pax would have to clear immigration and customs and then wait first for the bus to come, then for all other people to board the bus and only afterwards they'd be able to board the plane.
This said -and because this is Argentina after all- on domestic flights, airbridge-assignment is quite random. I fly myself very often from AEP to COR and many times I get to use the jetway, whilst many other times I don't.

2) SOL Líneas Aéreas (8R): It'ts an airline established in the earlier 2000s by a business group from ROS. They fly a bunch of Saab 340s accross destinations in Argentina and Uruguay. Thus far, they're business plan seems to be working very fine, for they open new routes every 2 months or so. SOL has managed to achieve a goal no other airline in Argentina reached (not even AR) - that is, to fly domestic routes without stopping over at Buenos Aires. Even though they keep a mini-hub at AEP, most of its flights avoid the big city. Their two major hubs at located at ROS and COR.

I was a funny comment. I see the nifty airchitecture, the functionaliy and the airbridge. It just looks, well funny. Plus these days it is becoming a priviledge to board your flight through airstairs.

The first time I was in MDZ I was three months old. My mother left Mendoza en 1968 and all my maternal family is there. I´ve been so many times. I am practically a Mendocino. You should go, for me there is not any better place for a vacation. There are urban and outdoorsy things to do and the sight of the Andes is unforgettable. Too bad if you panic with earthquakes, though, and don´t Google Mendoza and 1861 together.

Thank you for the explanation. Good. Seems like the originial concept TAN Neuquén had. They are even using the same aircraft. I hope they are successful. The fares AR charges are ridiculuous and LAN follows suit with a few dollars less. I wished they promoted themselves more. Not even in MDZ did I hear about them and if I had chosen to fly CM MEX-PTY-COR/ROS they would have been a great option.



MGGS
User currently offlineavion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4662 times:

Hi, thanks for an interesting read.
I liked the picture of the 727 model too: AR had a similar thing in their SCL city office until a few years ago: I couldn't resist a picture of that either!

Re. your comment "Plane: Boeing Airbus A320, I was unable to get the registration, apologies" Your nice photos seem to clearly show the nose wheel door with 'BSJ' painted on it. I'd reckon it was LV BSJ that you flew! I always like to know these things about my flights too!


User currently offlineghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4199 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
Thank you, great compliment coming from you. You definitely should, but, my personal point of view, try mid-Spring, Summer and up to mid Autumn. During the Winter I don´t like Argentina. It´s like two countries.

Well, I take the recommendation. When I had the chance to go, I never did, now that MX is gone, I have no more buddy passes. I'll try to go on AM this time  
Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
It´s not a matter of bad taste for me. It´s like it just says nothing to me. Nothing.

True, and for me, those colors are odd.

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
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