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Aer Lingus Business Class - JFK-DUB (Many Pics!)  
User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Flight: EI104
Route: New York-JFK- Dublin
Date: December 6, 2010
Aircraft: Airbus A330-300 EI-DUZ “St. Aoife”
Seat Number: 4C
Departure Time: 1740 (Scheduled), 1830 (Actual)
Arrival Time: 0520+1 (Scheduled), 0555+1 (Actual)

We flew out in Economy Class, and the report is here - http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/184265/

Check-In

After a nice weekend in New York, it was time to leave. The return flight was a bit of a treat, and I had used 110,000 of my Qantas Frequent Flyer points to get the two seats, as Qantas and Aer Lingus still have a relationship together despite Aer Lingus no longer being a part of the oneworld alliance.

We arrived on the Air Train from Jamaica into Terminal 4 at JFK and proceeded to the Aer Lingus check-in area.

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Business Class and Gold Circle Frequent Flyers have their own desk separate from the main check-in and when we arrived we were the only passengers there. The agent was on the phone when we arrived, but she immediately finished her call and we checked in for the flight.

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Our bags were weighed, and then we were directed to place them on an ornate trolley in front of the desks for collection.

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We asked about the load in Business Class and were told 5 seats were free out of the 24 in the cabin.

Our Boarding Passes were given to us and we also received an invitation to the Oasis Lounge. As we had plenty of time to kill, we went on the Air Train and visited a couple of the other terminals before returning and visiting the lounge.

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Oasis Lounge

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We entered and handed over our lounge pass, and were advised that a boarding announcement would be made in the lounge. In the entrance are cabinets full of china and such, topped with model aircraft from the various airlines that use the lounge.



Once inside, the first thing we did was to secure a couple of PCs in the Internet Cafe area to check our e-mails and so on. Access is complimentary (as it should be), so we spent some time there before getting some drinks.

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The bar is self service and although there was a sign up that people under 21 were not allowed to get drinks, there was no-one policing this, so Jordan was able to get whatever he wanted. In addition to the bar, there is a television area, and a selection of hot food, as well as other snacks such as rolls, cheese, crackers, crisps and so on.

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Also in the lounge is a library with books lining the walls, which was an interesting touch.

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The whole lounge offered a view over the apron, with our Aer Lingus aircraft parked directly in front of us.

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The bathrooms were quite nicely fitted out.



After a few drinks and a little snack, boarding was announced and we proceeded out of the lounge and down to gate A2.

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Boarding

Once near the gate, we had to pass through immigration which was quick and painless, and then through security which took somewhat longer as there was a queue. Also, they had run out of plastic trays, so we had to retrieve some from another line for the people in our line to use. We arrived at the boarding area and stationed ourselves beside the side reserved for Business Class and Gold Circle passengers.



Boarding was called very soon afterwards, and we were first on board the aircraft. Our boarding passes were checked and we turned left, proceeded past the three rows of Economy Class into the Business Class cabin.

Cabin

The Aer Lingus Business Class seats are the Recaro angled lie flat seats that are the off the shelf ones used by other airlines. The seat fabric is green, and each one had a snow white pillow on it ready for the passengers to use.

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In the overhead locker, there were two blue duvets and we popped our cabin baggage up beside them.

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Once seated, there was plenty of room, with the PTV in the back of the seat in front of us. The seat pocket is located directly under the PTV, and this contained noise cancelling headphones packaged with a Unicef Change for Good envelope – a charity that many airlines seem to work with.

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A literature holder is beside the PTV and this contained the Safety Card, Inflight Magazine, Duty Free Catalogue and the Menu.



An interesting feature which I hadn’t seen before was the water bottle holder, which was down on the right hand side of the seat near the floor so it would be reachable with the seat in the sleeping position.

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The seat was very comfortable and we relaxed while other passengers boarded, checking out all of the different seat controls. The seats also have adjustable headrests.

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There was also a selection of Irish newspapers available for passengers to read.

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The crew came around with the pre-takeoff drinks and we selected champagne (Jean Purnet Cuvee Tradition N.V.) over the water or fresh orange juice. This came in a weighty Waterford Crystal glass, with the word “Premier” written on it.

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Aer Lingus have rebranded their Business Class from “Premier Class”, however everything in the cabin is still branded Premier. One of our crew was a bit of a celebrity as she is the lady who has been featured in the in-flight magazine “Cara” for a couple of years.

A two hour ATC delay was announced by one of the pilots, so we decided to watch a movie on the in-flight entertainment. The headphones are noise cancelling, as they should be.

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Jordan had an orange juice while we waited, which also came in a Waterford Crystal glass, and was served with a smile.



However, this didn’t happen for long as the delay ended up being only 50 minutes or so. We watched the Aer Lingus animated Safety Demonstration video, the cabin lights were dimmed for take-off and we were soon in the air.

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In-Flight

Once we were in the air, water bottles and amenity kits were handed out and I immediately put my water bottle in the holder next to the seat. I retrieved our duvets from the overhead locker, removed the plastic and settled it around myself. It’s dark blue like the Economy Class blankets, very warm, thick and comfortable. This is a really nice touch over the standard airline blanket, and I was quite impressed. Some modelling of the duvet and seat just for you guys...

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A different picture showing the difference in colour depending on the lighting. It’s more this colour, really.

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Next, we were offered Canapes and drinks, and we stuck to the Champagne. There were four items on the plate – Lemon dill shrimp, stuffed cherry tomato with fig and goat cheese, beef tenderloin topped with caramelised onion, and Coponata on a toast square. These were polished off in short order and were delicious!

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Hot towels were given out after this, and we refreshed our faces and hands prior to ordering some more drinks – Vodka and Lemonade this time. These were also presented in Waterford Crystal glasses, which look quite glamourous compared to the usual airline glasses.

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Our meal order was taken, and there were four choices – Lamb and Morel Stew, Citrus Chicken, Crab Cakes or Spinach Gnocchi. We both opted for the lamb, which is described as “A slow cooked stew with tender lamb, peas, onions, carrots, and morel mushrooms; topped with gratin potatoes.”

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The tray arrived containing the main meal and in addition was a salad which is described in the menu as, “Insulata Rustica – consisting of a bed of mesculin lettuce, topped with cherry tomatoes, blistered grapes, prosciutto crisps, and shaved parmesan cheese. This is served with Italian her vinaigrette.” The crew also came by with a basket of bread and we chose what we liked from that also.

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The meal was nothing short of superb – great portion sizes, very tasty and it was pretty much faultless. The “Premier” branding was in abundance yet again, with every plate, glass, bowl, the serviette and even the salt and pepper shakers holder branded in this way. I imagine this is in case you forget you’re flying in an angled flat bed seat across the Atlantic and think you’re in European Economy Class!

Once dinner was cleared away, it was time for dessert – a choice between a Fruit & Cheese Plate or Irish Cream Bread Pudding. We chose the pudding and our tray was set out with a mug, sugar bowl and milk (all Premier branded, of course!) and our dessert. It was served warm with vanilla crème and again was a delight for the tastebuds. Aer Lingus have very good tea as well, so we were quite impressed!

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After dinner, I indulged in a Bailey’s over ice and the cabin lights were dimmed so that people could get some sleep.

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In the flat position, the seats are angled, but you don’t really feel like you’re going to slip down the seat or anything like that. It’s not perfect for sleep as it’s not completely flat, but it’s close enough to have a nice rest – especially snuggled up under the duvet.

I visited the bathroom later on in the flight, and it’s the same size as the Economy Class ones, just with two or three extra products such as moisturiser for the Business Class passengers.

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After a fitful doze, it was time for the breakfast service in the cabin. I was quite groggy at this point and wasn’t given enough time to actually consider what I wanted, so I just chose a bagel which came with cream cheese and jam as well as an orange juice and my morning coffee.

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The bagel was cold and very dry, so it wasn’t great, but after a bit the crew member came back again and gave us strawberry banana yoghurt which was good as I was looking for something else to have.

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This was all cleared away, and we were on our descent to an early morning arrival in Dublin. Business Class passengers were first off the aircraft, and were quickly processed by Irish immigration. In Terminal 1 in Dublin, there is a separate carousel (number 1) marked “Business Class Priority Baggage Delivery”.

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This meant our bags came out separately from everyone else, and they came out very quickly – the perfect end to a good flight.

Overall Impression

The Aer Lingus Business Class experience is very good. The cabin crew were efficient, helpful, and were always there to offer you something when required. During the night portion of the flight when the cabin lights were down, they were unobtrusive and quiet when passing through the cabin, which maximised people’s opportunities for sleep. The food portion size was perfect so that you were full and yet not too full – and the crew were not stingy with handing out the free booze. Check-in was a breeze, the Oasis Lounge was very good, and overall the service was what I would have expected. I’d recommend it as a good way to get to and from Europe - even more so now since the price has been reduced to accurately reflect what it's worth!

[Edited 2011-02-06 05:55:20]

[Edited 2011-02-06 05:57:56]


I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The service looks like it has not changed much since I last flew it a few years back, just after the introduction of the lie-flats.
I think it is a great product, especially given the short flight times, for a long-haul flight. Its very "Irish", I think. Touches like the crystal glasses and silver platters hark back to Ireland, the kind of things my parents got (and used to give) as wedding presents in the 80s!

Great report. Glad to see the product so well showcased.

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great report once again. I agree with Brian, I like how EI are maintaining the "Irishy" feel with the Waterford crystal etc. - it really distinguishes itself from other airlines in this regard.

I prefer the Premier branding as opposed to Business Class, I never got why EI changed it. "Premier" seems more...classy than "Business" I think.



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Fantastic Report ClassicLover, thanks for posting.

Impossible to fault the EI Business Class product, everything seems spot-on - both on the ground and in the air. Given the relatively short flight time, the product is very impressive overall.

If you look very closely, you can tell that the Oasis Lounge in JFK was previously a Gold Circle one. It seems to have changed quite a bit though.  


EI320


User currently offlineEIBusiness From Ireland, joined Feb 2010, 640 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

An excellent report ClassicLover and a thoroughly enjoyable read - you managed to capture some fantastic shots all round!

Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
The Aer Lingus Business Class seats are the Recaro angled lie flat seats that are the off the shelf ones used by other airlines. The seat fabric is green, and each one had a snow white pillow on it ready for the passengers to use.

Those pillows still seem constant with the standard offering. On the same route as you, but perhaps two weeks earlier in C there were small neck pillows in the Business cabin. I'd like to see Aer Lingus finally roll out full size pillows in the Business Cabin - it's something that has been promised for a long time now and is advertised throughout their Business Class promotional material.

The quality of the onboarding dining appears to be as excellent as ever. I have found, interestingly, that the portions are generally much larger on the USA-DUB routes when compared with the offering ex DUB - particularly in the case of the starters!

The cabin is still looking very fresh also - despite -DUZ being in service more than three years now. All of the IFE screens and controls are in great working order - whereas 2A and 3A on EI-EAV have clear damage to the controls already - there are small ''chunks'' missing from them! - Most likely from not being stowed away correctly.

Overall - you've given great insight into the product. What I really like is the level of ''Irish'' hospitality onboard - it's there as a constant every single time and really adds to the experience.

The priority boarding ex JFK is great and it's something that needs to be rolled out at DUB. I have heard that priority boarding for BC and GC passengers will be available from immediate effect when T/A ops commence from T2.

I'll be taking a trip to the USA with EI in C in exactly one month from now and if the departure is from T2 - it'll be interesting to see if the priority boarding is available.

Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
The bagel was cold and very dry, so it wasn’t great, but after a bit the crew member came back again and gave us strawberry banana yoghurt which was good as I was looking for something else to have.

A very minor point of detail - but, were there no croissants available for the breakfast service?

Thanks again for posting - a very enjoyable read with fantastic pictures!

Regards,

EIBusiness



Vivo Per Lei...
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hi Trent,
nice report on the flight you had with Jordan. Did you book Business on the way back for your additinal baggage allowance after shopping in NYC?  
I must say, the catering on EI definitely looks good, and the 2-2-2 seating in the A330 is a good layout. Definitely better then 2-3-2 on many 777's.

Regards
Eric



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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1937 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Good report! Nice to read about Aer Lingus. You don't hear too much about Premier Class in this forum; especially not between the US and Ireland!

Looks like a very nice meal service was provided to you both. The bread pudding looked really tasty!  

Thanks for sharing,

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlineDunaA320 From UK - England, joined Feb 2009, 613 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Hey again Trent!

Business looks the business (If you'll pardon the pun!) Food looks really good, espically that pudding. Deffo a marked improvment on the old business/premier cabin!

Matt


User currently offlinesfflyer123 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Very nice TR. The food looks very much like United's business product. The seats look exactly like EVA air's business class product angled lie-flats. Very nice Trip report!

User currently offlinejgw787 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
Once near the gate, we had to pass through immigration which was quick and painless

US has exit immigration???


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8539 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
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Hi Trent,

Great review of the EI J product, not seen one for a while.

Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
he crew came around with the pre-takeoff drinks and we selected champagne (Jean Purnet Cuvee Tradition N.V.) over the water or fresh orange juice. This came in a weighty Waterford Crystal glass, with the word “Premier” written on it.

- Good to see Waterford crystal being used for drinks in J, a real quality glassware that puts pretty much every other J glassware to shame.

Quoting ClassicLover (Thread starter):
The meal was nothing short of superb – great portion sizes, very tasty and it was pretty much faultless.

- I have to say the portions look a good size and presentation looks pretty decent too.

All in all, looks like a decent product, if only I had an excuse to give it a try!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offline9W748Capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 587 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting jgw787 (Reply 9):
US has exit immigration???

I was thinking the same thing, but I bet he means the quick inspection of passport/visa/boarding pass by gate agents during the boarding process.

Great report though - looks like quite an impressive product. Too bad EI left oneworld - they'd be a solid addition!


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 1):
Touches like the crystal glasses

Which I was very impressed with!

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 1):
I like how EI are maintaining the "Irishy" feel with the Waterford crystal etc. - it really distinguishes itself from other airlines in this regard.

I think the whole green theme and the Shamrocks everywhere definitely bring an Irish feel to it all. Which it should, considering it's an Irish airline!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 2):
I prefer the Premier branding as opposed to Business Class, I never got why EI changed it. "Premier" seems more...classy than "Business" I think.

I don't know, I always thought Premier could be a bit confusing if you didn't know English so well. Business Class at least gives it a direct name. Premier could be First, after all...

Quoting EI320 (Reply 3):
If you look very closely, you can tell that the Oasis Lounge in JFK was previously a Gold Circle one. It seems to have changed quite a bit though.

Yes, I noticed that - around the lounge there were signs of this. In my picture of the food containers in the lounge, there's a sneaky bit of frosted divider that looks very familiar  
Quoting EIBusiness (Reply 4):
An excellent report ClassicLover and a thoroughly enjoyable read - you managed to capture some fantastic shots all round!

Thanks Jon! 
Quoting EIBusiness (Reply 4):
I'd like to see Aer Lingus finally roll out full size pillows in the Business Cabin - it's something that has been promised for a long time now and is advertised throughout their Business Class promotional material.

Yes, that would make a difference - I imagine it will happen at some point if they are promoting things like that!

Quoting EIBusiness (Reply 4):
A very minor point of detail - but, were there no croissants available for the breakfast service?

There were - but I was so groggy I'd forgotten I had been told to try them   ... a good excuse to go again though!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 5):
nice report on the flight you had with Jordan. Did you book Business on the way back for your additinal baggage allowance after shopping in NYC?

I wish   haha

Quoting 767747 (Reply 6):
The bread pudding looked really tasty!

It was delicious!   I could have had three more, easily!

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 7):
Deffo a marked improvment on the old business/premier cabin!

Totally different experience to our CWL-DUB!  
Quoting jgw787 (Reply 9):
US has exit immigration???
Quoting 9W748Capt (Reply 11):
I was thinking the same thing, but I bet he means the quick inspection of passport/visa/boarding pass by gate agents during the boarding process.

My bad, yes, that's right  
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):
- Good to see Waterford crystal being used for drinks in J, a real quality glassware that puts pretty much every other J glassware to shame.

I agree - it does indeed. Other J glassware looks very standard and un-special in comparison!



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6337 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Great report ClassicLover, been looking forward to reading this one.

Aer Lingus Business Class sounds like a fine product, I'm always impressed with the Waterford Crystal and the on board dining overall. The meals look very nice but I think I'd have to do a few laps around the cabin to work off that desert!

Got to agree with the comments about the whole "Irish feel" to the service, that's something Aer Lingus need to hold on to and I'm pleased to see after all these years it's still there.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 2):
I prefer the Premier branding as opposed to Business Class, I never got why EI changed it. "Premier" seems more...classy than "Business" I think.

I always preferred Premier as well but I think it was changed because of confusion with people thinking it meant Premium like Premier was just a Premium Economy product so the "Business" name is to the point and hard to confuse with any other kind of cabin product. One thing I'd say is if they're going to rebrand they could at least do it properly and remove any Premier branding from the cabin.

Shamrock350


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Nice return trip report as well. Was there any reason given for the ATC delay in JFK?


Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5090 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Thanks for the writeup. For the prices EI charge on their trans-atlantic JCL, I they have a good value product. Again, thanks for sharing.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 13):
I always preferred Premier as well but I think it was changed because of confusion with people thinking it meant Premium like Premier was just a Premium Economy product so the "Business" name is to the point and hard to confuse with any other kind of cabin product. One thing I'd say is if they're going to rebrand they could at least do it properly and remove any Premier branding from the cabin.

Yes, I hear that they are gradually changing the crockery and such over to the grey Shamrock, which I think is a lot more elegant really.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 14):
Was there any reason given for the ATC delay in JFK?

None was given, but I hear it's not unusual.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 15):
For the prices EI charge on their trans-atlantic JCL, I they have a good value product

Yes, I agree - thanks for the comments people!  



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
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