FlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 28 Posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8203 times:
This trip is basically all about logging some SAS Group flight segments since I still need quite a few for Eurobonus Gold (Star Gold as well) status. I was browsing for some decent fares which would allow me to spend a day someplace nice, and stumbled upon a 120 EUR fare to AMS via CPH. That sounded good to me as Amsterdam is very nice city and it’s been three or so years since I was last there (outside Schiphol, that is). As an added bonus the CPH-AMS segment was to be operated by an A319 - I’ve never flown an SK example before so was eager to catch one, so I ended up booking these two flights.
I really wanted to do just a daytrip, so focused my search for onward flights for the afternoon or evening. I soon found a decent fare of 75 EUR for a nicely timed SK flight to OSL and booked it - a new route for my log (the only one on this trip, actually) and another segment bagged!
Finally Saturday night doesn’t exactly offer too many options for getting to HEL from OSL - neither KF or DY do operate the evening flights to HEL on that particular weekday. Luckily good ole’ BT came to the rescue with a late departure to RIX and onwards to HEL with the notorious “Midnight Fokker” (luckily the next day would be Sunday and I was planning a very lazy day anyway so no biggie this time) for under 70 EUR. Lounge access at OSL would come handy - I’ve spent more money on expensive beer at that particular airport that I care to remember - so booking the airBaltic flights was really a no-brainer.
Here’s the itinerary for the (long) day:
Another Saturday, another far too early wake up call at five o’clock - things aren’t exactly helped by the fact that I was out enjoying a show far too late the previous night. Bleary eyed I do my thing and manage to catch the bus to the airport 40 minutes later. At T1 around T-45mins, plenty of time to go through security and even grab a cup of coffee in a failed attempt to wake me up. The staff at the Seasons restaurant are downright rude - must be the early hour. At least the coffee cup is nice Finnish design:
Not a good day to be going to Gran Ganaria:
The plane parked at gate 13 - Avro RJ-85 OH-SAL “Orivesi”, my 9th flight on this particular bird:
Boarding is called right at the indicated boarding time of 6.15, by the time I get there a minute or two later there’s nobody there anymore - I ask “where’s everybody?” - “Oh, we have a very light load this morning.”.
I settle to the last row - indeed the load is very low, under 20 passengers in total, all in economy. Unfortunately the few rows in front of me are all occupied by a rather annoying and loud entourage of middle aged man, the loudest of them first asks the back galley FA “Will you be serving any food on this flight?” - “Yes, you can buy sandwiches and the like.” - “What about BEER?” (with the emphasis being on the word “beer”) - “Yes, you can buy that too.” - The guy smiles like million bucks - oh dear. Mind you that it isn’t even half past six in the morning yet!
A quick sprout of decing fluid is done at the gate - not a fully fledged deicing by any means, despite it being around minus fifteen outside. Flight time is announced as 1h25mins with a somewhat warmer weather in Copenhagen.
Pushback is five minutes ahead of schedule, and take off from 04R seven minutes later.
Nice lit-up views of the Capital Region right after take off:
I sleep through most of this flight, the previous night was a bit too short for me... Through my sleep I hear the guys in front of me indulging in malted beverages - this only makes their stupid jokes and stories even more stupid.
I wake up by the start of our descent - we are passing Malmö/Styrup airport (MMX) by the time - the brighly lit spot in this photo is the terminal building:
Descent takes us south of the city of Malmö (the captain announces that it is visible on the right hand side, but I can’t be bothered the move there for a view), over the Öresund where a right hand turn lines us up with the 04 runways at Kastrup.
Touchdown is on 04L after around 1h20mins of flight time some 15 minutes ahead of schedule:
Star Alliance sisters:
Some minutes later we dock to the A pier usually used by KF here.
While waiting for deboarding I ask the FA in the back galley where the gentlemen are going as I saw her going through the passengers individually with connecting gate information (she ignored me as I looked like being asleep and mostly was...) - “Amsterdam” is the reply, to which I roll my eyes and say “Bloody hell, so am I!”. She seems to be a bit sympathetic about this and tells me it’ll be gate B14 for us. Bye:
Copenhagen Kastrup Airport
I head to the lounge for some basic breakfast:
Not too long to spend here before my flight is showing as boarding, so I trundle towards the packed B pier. The first thing I notice approaching the gate is this:
Yep, as I was fearing (and as suggested by Eric as well!) there had been an equipment change - the OLCI seatmap a day earlier was still showing an A319 but here we go with LN-ROX “Ulvrik Viking”, an MD-82 instead. At least it’s a new plane for me, despite not being a new plane at all, having been delivered back in 1988!
I kinda like the registration though, it rocks!
Looks like it’s going to be a clear and very pretty day:
The gate area has tons of people - apparently quite a few people are getting new seat assignments (must be the equipment change) and with only a single gate agent this is slowing down the process. Oh, and I also notice the gentlemen from the previous flight...
By the time I get to the gate agent I’m surprised to have retained my original seating assignment - of course row 25 is nowhere near the last row on these Mad Dogs but at least it is still a window seat. I ask the agent about the plane switch, but she just kinda shrugs and says “I don’t know, I have no information!”
The good old SAS cloth seats are very comfortable as they always have been. You’d have a hard time guessing the plane’s age, as always with SAS the cabin is in very good condition. Row 25 is just behind the wing - not a bad view at all:
Unfortunately I get a family with a small kid next to me - but fortunately the kid is very well behaved, doesn’t cry at all and is very happy throughout the flight. The mother is very pleasant to chat with as well.
Speaking of passengers, at least economy is completely full, can’t tell about the few rows of economy extra and business class. The beer guy from the previous flight is sitting on the other side of the aisle, looking like he had a few during the short stopover.
The flight time announced as 1h5mins, with push back a couple of minutes late.
Oh, I think I should really log a flight on this Estonian beauty now that they finally managed to scrape together enough money to pay for a few:
I wonder what Transavia is still doing here - I thought the DK operation is long gone.
We end up at the deicing area, with the captain explaining that a bit of frost had accumulated on top of the wings during the night and it needs to be taken care of, which promptly happens with two praying mantises giving the wings a healthy dose of piping hot glycol:
The operation doesn’t take too long, and the next surprise comes with the take off runway - all the other traffic is using 04R but we take off from 22R, even though it is being used for landings on the other direction. Actually this Norwegian 737 just landed on 04L before us:
These Mad Dogs are capable of some amazingly powerful take offs, but today the captain seems to be in an economic mood, wanting to save the old engines and gas (or maybe we just need to stay underneath the approach path of inbound landing traffic) as our climb rate is less than stellar:
It stays clear all through the Danish airspace, but somewhere near to Germany the skies get more and more overcast.
An oil terminal near Skælskør:
The Big Belt bridge:
An unrecognized airfield:
We start our descent around 40 minutes into the flight, heading into the thick and dense cloudbase.
The land becomes visible only a few seconds before touchdown - the weather doesn’t look too good here:
Landing at Haarlem International Airport (sorry, Freudian slip, meant 18R or the infamous “Polderbaan”) after exactly the promised 1h5mins in the air.
Of course landing here means that it is another 15 minutes before we finally dock to the C pier of the terminal.
On the way we taxi past Eric’s favorite airline:
Nice to see another mighty triholer:
During our taxi to the gate I get quite embarrassed by who else than the beer guy trying to strike up a slurry conversation in pigdin English with his seatmate, a Dutch granpa who is at least seventy years old - seriously, not all Finns are like that!
The captain is standing at the cockpit door wishing all the pax a good day - while passing by I say to him “You gotta love the Polderbaan!” - he seems to agree with me.
In no time at all I’m boarding a train bound for Amsterdam Centraal (as a side note why an earth do the ticket machines want to charge your an EUR extra for paying with a credit card?! I tried with my debit card but it was refused). Fifteen minutes later I alight from the station into the wet weather:
Amsterdam is the perfect city for aimless wondering around - distances are short, there are usually lots of surprises around every corner and the canals and narrow streets mean that car traffic isn’t usually a big problem. Shame about the weather, it rains on and off and the streets are quite wet so I of course end up soaking my shoes quite thoroughly.
Hmm - nice touch with the Russian subtitles:
Quite a Chinatown has sprung up just east of the main Red Light District:
Does the resident here fly KL long haul in Business often?
A couple of hours before the next flight I head back to Schiphol, this time onboard an Intercity train bound for Brussels:
Amsterdam Schiphol Airport
The security checkpoint is completely deserted, so in no time at all I’m through. I don’t really know what Eric means by constantly having problems here - every single time I’ve gone through security at AMS it’s always been if not a pleasant, then at least a normal experience. Never had any problems.
Airside is very empty as well - Saturday afternoons definitely aren’t peak periods around here. Some shopping follows - IMHO Schiphol is pretty much the best airport for that in Europe.
Having pleased the Gods of commerce I head upstairs to the Menzies lounge, where a very pleasant elder agent welcomes me in.
There’s an annoyingly loud and happy (as only Swedes can be!) Swedish entourage here, but they leave almost right after I get there as their flight to ARN appears to be boarding, leaving the lounge to just me and a very sleepy Spanish guy (this lounge is used by IB as well):
I’ve spent quite a few hours in this lounge back in the days and it looks like it hasn’t changed at all from the years past. The drink selection is okay, but food is very limited. Not that I’m particularly hungry after my great Chinese meal back in the city...
Wifi (interestingly there’s no free wifi from the lounge, just the 2x30mins free provided by KPN to everyone at this airport), my book and some adult beverages make time fly, especially since the lazy chairs there are very very comfortable.
The inbound lands early, so I head to the gate some half an hour before departure. On the way I spot the plane - the expected 736, LN-RRY, “Signe Viking” - my second flight on this particular bird, although the previous time was way back in 2003.
By the time I get to the gate at the C pier they are already displaying “closing” - I ask if they are trying to make a new record here to which the funny male agent says “You know those Scandinavians - always so punctual so we are trying to send them on their way as soon as possible! And today the load is very light, so it’ll be easy.” and wishes me a good flight. I inquire about the load - “Oh, 25-30 pax only!” - “Am I the last one to board?” - “No, we are still missing 4 more persons after you.”
Again another last row window for me, I kinda like the two-seater on this row with the internationally configured SK 736s, I think it has some additional legroom:
Boarding is completed soon. The load indeed is low. I think there are 2 pax in economy extra, nobody in the single row of business class and the rest, around 25 pax in economy.
The captain makes a welcome speech, announcing our flight time as 1h30mins and Oslo reporting “nice weather, with a temperature of -10 degrees” (brrr!). We are “expected to depart ahead of schedule, and also arrive ahead of schedule!”. Everything is ready around 15 minutes ahead of the scheduled departure time, but we wait for pushback clearance another ten minutes and finally push back just five minutes early.
In the meanwhile the weather has turned uglier:
18L is in use for departures today, five planes in the queue before us, including a HV 737, three KLC Fokker 70s and a KL 738:
Take off is 12 minutes after push back:
Right away we disappear into the murkiness, only to emerge into bright sunlight a couple of minutes later:
I notice some nasty looking stains and a napkin in the ceiling:
I decide to splurge on some champers - at around 10 EUR it’s not too expensive:
The sun sets during this flight, making for some interesting lighting effects:
By the time we start our approach it is again completely black, but as it is a clear night the views of the lit up communities below are again very impressive:
Landing is on 01R after a flight time of 1h23mins. We get a dual use domestic/international gate this time:
FlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8201 times:
I have a short chat with the crew - apparently the outbound flight had a similarly bad load and this is pretty much always the case on Saturdays - we wonder why SK still keeps operating the flight on Saturdays... The crew has one more segment to go today, they are operating a flight to BGO next on this same plane (hence the dual gate arrival) and overnighting there. I bid them farewell and head into the terminal.
An interesting perspective to my ride:
Oslo Gardermoen Airport
As international transfer facilities are very lacking at OSL, and I’ve never seen the transfer checkpoint open I head to arrivals, doing the landside shuffle through the deserted departure hall:
The guy at the security check point is amazed at the speed and machinelike routine I prepare for the check and asks “So you do this often?” - “Well, yeah, dozens of times”.
I make a beeline to the Scandinavian lounge, and get a shock after the attendant tells me that they are closing in exactly three minutes. Bugger, this is not good at all, considering my BT flight is more than 2 hours away. Anyway I tell her that I’m going in anyway - “Ok, drink lots of wine!” she tells me. Ahh, this is why I like the Norwegians so much! . She doesn’t even bother checking my boarding pass or frequent flyer card.
Well, a single glass of red is all I manage plus some wifi. She drops in to tell me that I can stay for another 10 minutes while she closes shop, which I appreciate. After the ten minutes or so she tells me that I really need to go - so I do. I ask whether they stay open later during the weekdays - apparently yes. She concludes with “airBaltic doesn’t pay us enough to keep it open later!” - touche!
Indeed not many international flights on a Saturday evening:
I do what any self respecting Finn would do and buy a six pack of beer from the Duty free and set up a camp at some comfy chairs for the wait.
I won’t bother reporting on the flights home as those were bog standard BT flights, both of which I mostly slept through. The planes, interestingly were 735 YL-BBE and F50 YL-BAZ, the very same ones which I flew on my last trip with BT less than two weeks previously. Both flights departed more than ten minutes early and I even managed to fit in a very quick lounge visit at RIX, mainly to pick up the latest issue of the Economist and a bottle of water. Here’s a couple of pictures from the trip home:
Another very enjoyable day of flying around and a couple of hours at one of my favorite cities - time well spent if you ask me! The weather in Amsterdam was quite bad, but that’s to be expected this time of the year.
SK and KF provided perfectly fine flights on clean, comfortable and on two out of three flights very lightly loaded planes. Shame about missing the A319 but another Mad Dog ride is always good (even though that one actually was my 45th flight aboard an MD-82, not exactly a rare type in my log...).
A week to go until the next trip, which combines more segment running with logging a new, seasonal domestic route in Finland: TLL-HEL-ARN-TMP-KAO-HEL. Stay tuned!
FLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5206 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8134 times:
well done, good pictures.
Stay away with the A319´s and give me the MD anytime, much better in my opinion, you know.
Very low loads indeed on these two SK/Blue 1 legs, good to see no cancellation at all.
And congrats to catch more legs for the Eurobonus Status.
I´am also a member, checked the site frequently the last days, but mainly due to the SK Diners offer,
130 lounges and some points, but not available for german residents, ok for the Finn´s, you know.
airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4324 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7949 times:
nice to read about your recent visit to my hometown. Sorry that I wasn't available this day. The proposed visit to the museum was not good anyway with the bad weather. We do it another time, let's make an appointment during the summer months?
Flown Amsterdam Airlines once, while very well ok, but poor legroom, it's not my favourite. But interesting, they're for sure.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): (as a side note why an earth do the ticket machines want to charge your an EUR extra for paying with a credit card?!
Oh yes, that's pretty bad. Many complaints about that issue. Counter purchase and creditcards are + EUR 0,50 which is a rip off and not customer friendly. But you know, in my country you've to pay for basically 'everything' nowadays.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): I don’t really know what Eric means by constantly having problems here - every single time I’ve gone through security at AMS it’s always been if not a pleasant, then at least a normal experience. Never had any problems.
I pass these checkpoints in the early hours of the days usually, on average busier then what you got, and probably the early hours are not good for the officers mood either. I know that also these security staffs are eligible for the most part of customer complaints at Amsterdam Airport and it gives the airport management enough headache
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): interestingly there’s no free wifi from the lounge, just the 2x30mins free provided by KPN to everyone at this airport
The KPN network with 2x 30min wifi is recently introduced, at least they do something about it. But apart from that, I expect free internet in every business lounge nowadays. For some reason the lounges in my sophisticated country are walking behind the facts.
Nice report overall, shame to get no A319 for you on this trip although the MD80 is more interesting. AMS sees very few SK A319's, they usually only pop up as replacement/aircraft change on some CPH-AMS flights. Also the A321 is seen on rare occasions.
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
MH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1698 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7614 times:
Nice TR with the usual good pictures/text !!! Really like your night- and sunrise shots...
Glad to see you liked AMS, despite the weather; Good to have missed these miserable conditions, since I've been spending my Lunar New-Year in Vietnam since 22jan and will leave for AMS 17feb...would have missed you anyhow during this weekend...
Do I see here another Flieger67 seating-wise ?
Yes, please come back some time during the Summer-months, and we can have a (small) A.net meet together with Eric (and some others); would be nice to have a small party (and to discuss some more trip-finding possibilities ?)...
Looking forward to your next domestic TR installment...
TBloemink From Netherlands, joined Mar 2010, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7516 times:
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): The captain is standing at the cockpit door wishing all the pax a good day - while passing by I say to him “You gotta love the Polderbaan!” - he seems to agree with me.
Yup, good spotting facilities Dont go there without a car, kinda far from AMS, as you said :P per car is 20 minutes from AMS I guess
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): In no time at all I’m boarding a train bound for Amsterdam Centraal (as a side note why an earth do the ticket machines want to charge your an EUR extra for paying with a credit card?! I tried with my debit card but it was refused). Fifteen minutes later I alight from the station into the wet weather:
You gotta love the NS, I dont travel by train much, but indeed, credit cards cost you EUR 1 more. Noticed the burger king? Thats normal on big stations, even on one of which the trains depart under the ground :P
rogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1210 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7390 times:
Great morning read as usual.
Glad to see you caught a SK A319, did not know they flew them.
OSL looks a nice airport despite the early closure of the lounge; they should have known you were coming and made a little effort to have it open until you left in your usual hop to HEL stopping at Riga.
No wonder you slept most of the back flight after a six pack
"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
SloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7043 times:
Another detailed report about your flying around Europe - I really like your day trips, they always inspire me to do a similar day trip just flying, but it is hard to get good flights/prices out of LJU, as JP is often expensive and there are not a lot of other airlines to choose from. I guess I will have to try TSF or KLU, but the flight selection is also limited there.
I hope you will be able to visit LJU or fly with JP in the future, so that we will get some quality reports
FlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6689 times:
Hi guys, good to see so many comments already!
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3): Sorry that I wasn't available this day. The proposed visit to the museum was not good anyway with the bad weather. We do it another time, let's make an appointment during the summer months?
No probs, Eric. We'll do it some other time. Summer sounds nice, let's see how the schedules end up looking like...
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3): Flown Amsterdam Airlines once, while very well ok, but poor legroom, it's not my favourite. But interesting, they're for sure.
I know, I know and definitely remember that poor legroom but decent service and interesting Moroccan seatmates from your report .
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3): But you know, in my country you've to pay for basically 'everything' nowadays.
Quite surprising - Finland is notorious for charging an arm and leg for everything but not to this degree, mind you! Is NS becoming RyanTrain?
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3): I know that also these security staffs are eligible for the most part of customer complaints at Amsterdam Airport and it gives the airport management enough headache
Well, maybe it's a matter of trying to make a good impression on foreigners and thus being more rude to their own people? AY crews used to be quite notorious for this, but in recent years it has changed - they just treat everybody like crap nowadays .
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3): But apart from that, I expect free internet in every business lounge nowadays.
Well, I actually expect free internet in every airport nowadays! Just like is the case with every airport in Finland for the last couple of years.
Quoting MH017 (Reply 4): Do I see here another Flieger67 seating-wise ?
I guess I learned from the best. But yeah, there's a high chance you get lucky with the last row.
Quoting MH017 (Reply 4): Yes, please come back some time during the Summer-months, and we can have a (small) A.net meet together with Eric (and some others); would be nice to have a small party (and to discuss some more trip-finding possibilities ?)...
Let's see. Would be fun, no doubt about it! Just too many places to visit and too little time.
Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 6): Glad to see you caught a SK A319, did not know they flew them.
Err, I didn't exactly caught one... I was supposed to, but it got changed to a Mad Dog in the last minute. They have a few, four I think in the fleet - remainder from the crazy years around 2000 when they were doing good and were ordering planes left and right. They were supposed to be A321s but at least they managed to change the orders into something cheaper when their fortunes turned worse.
Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 6): No wonder you slept most of the back flight after a six pack
I didn't exactly drink the whole pack, you know?
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8): When I was ther in September, I got soaked through as well - not nice.
Heh, come to think of it every single time I've been to the NL has been during the winter. Most of the time the weather has been crap apart from some visits in December which have been nice and clear.
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8): Does BA use a different lounge to the SK one (I assume they do) - I'm sure their C class pax wouldn't appreciate not having a lounge.
Oh yes. They nowadays use the other lounge which is used by AY among others, right next to the SAS one. I was there once a couple of years ago courtesy of AY - not a bad place at all, they even had some basic cold food in there and very comfortable sofas. I think it must stay open longer.
Actually until a couple of years ago BA used to have their own Terraces lounge at Gardermoen. The funny thing about that was that it was located in the domestic part of the airport (I guess due to space restrictions, can't figure out where they could build another lounge at the international part without some serious renovations), which made it the only lounge at that part and accessible to domestic travelers in Norway with BA Gold status...
Quoting SloAir (Reply 9): I guess I will have to try TSF or KLU, but the flight selection is also limite
How about Trieste? Well, that limits your choices to mainly FR, which might or might not be your thing... BTW have they stopped flying to Maribor?
Quoting SloAir (Reply 9): I hope you will be able to visit LJU or fly with JP in the future, so that we will get some quality reports
I was in LJU back in 2005, although I flew Ezy to and from SXF. I was actually looking at doing the CRJ-900 with JP, but let's see if I get around doing it or not. That's when I also looked up flights ex-TRS as a continuation of my journey...
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): The plane parked at gate 13 - Avro RJ-85 OH-SAL “Orivesi”, my 9th flight on this particular bird:
Oh, this Avro´s i really cute, I think I´m the only one who thinks so:D
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): While waiting for deboarding I ask the FA in the back galley where the gentlemen are going as I saw her going through the passengers individually with connecting gate information (she ignored me as I looked like being asleep and mostly was...) - “Amsterdam” is the reply, to which I roll my eyes and say “Bloody hell, so am I!”. She seems to be a bit sympathetic about this and tells me it’ll be gate B14 for us. Bye:
Not a good start on your trip
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter): You’d have a hard time guessing the plane’s age, as always with SAS the cabin is in very good condition. Row 25 is just behind the wing - not a bad view at all:
I can only agree on that! Pity you didn´t catch the A319 even if the MD is nice too.
akhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2518 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5124 times:
I am sorry I was not available on the weekend you came over to Holland. Glad to know to know that you made the most of your visit. I did not even know there was a Vodka museum in Amsterdam. What a brilliant idea to go there.
Thanks for being in touch and sharing your weekend trip to AMS.
FlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5012 times:
Thanks for the comments.
Quoting parton87 (Reply 15): Amsterdam looks great despite the bad weather. I thinking of going there in early April.
Do it! It is a great city for visiting and doing pretty much nothing - just strolling around the canals and streets. In April you might get lucky with the weather, it's a bit hit an miss.
Quoting parton87 (Reply 15): Not a good day to be going to Gran Ganaria:
Strange that both flights are delayed!
First I thought it might be some weather problems or slot restrictions over there, but am not sure since they are delayed by different amounts of time.
Quoting parton87 (Reply 15): Oh, this Avro´s i really cute, I think I´m the only one who thinks so:D
Oh, I like the Avros a lot. Although the -100 is my favorite, the -70 and -85 are just a bit too short and stubby.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 16): I did not even know there was a Vodka museum in Amsterdam. What a brilliant idea to go there.
Actually I never went there, just walked past it. It's kinda hard not to notice as it is there right on the main drag of Damrak when walking from CS to Dam square. You know the one with all the touristy stuff.