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Xfring At DEL T3: BLR-DEL-FRA-ORD On 9W/LH  
User currently offlinejustbala From India, joined Feb 2006, 169 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12301 times:

Introduction:

The week after New Years, had to travel to MIA on work and getting a last minute reservation proved to be a real task for my travel agent. My first choice 9W was fully booked across all sectors and so were the *A flights out of BLR and BOM. My agent finally came up with an itinerary that would route me from BLR to DEL on 9W, DEL-FRA-ORD on LH and ORD-MIA on UA. Turns out all LH flights to MIA were also going full. The return coupla weeks later was a lot easier and I managed to get a one hop MIA-FRA-BLR routing.

This TR covers the BLR-DEL leg and the domestic to international transfer experience at the new T3 @ DEL. A few pics of the LH flights are also included.

BLR-DEL

Flight : 9W 812
A/C - VT-JGW
Seat 1F


Originally wasnt planning to write a TR on this leg as I this has been covered umpteen times in multiple TRs. However as luck would have it, I manage to snag an upgrade at the gate, courtesy a solitary upgrade voucher that was expiring in a weeks time!!  

Since the booking class I was originally booked on did not qualify for an upgrade using a voucher, I did not contact the Jet Privilege center for an upgrade. However I tried my luck at the check-in counter and the sweet lady there said she would try and took down my details. At the gate my boarding pass scan blinked red (you have no idea how happy that makes me!!) and the 9W agent confirmed that the upgrade had indeed worked!! Soon I was in posession of a new Boarding Pass with Seat 1F on it and I proceeded to VT-JGW, a 737-800 which was to be our bird tonite.

VT-JGW is part of the new revamped fleet of 9W and its LCC brand 9W-Konnect and has 8 J class seats and remaining Y.

Was greeted at the door by a smiling female F/A, while a male F/A , Karan, was serving welcome drinks to other guests in J. The loads were 100% in both Y and J.

While boarding was completed before time, a lady seated in 1C, misplaced her IPad in the boarding area and the crew had to arrange for the missing item to be located, which they managed to do successfully. The lady looked harried throughout the trip!!

Soon after take off, menu cards were distributed.

The Domestic J Class Menu Card


This months menu card highlighted Bidari Silverwork from the Indian State of Karnataka


The menu for todays flight


Dinner consisted of 4 main course options -

1- Mugh Chutneywala - Indian Chicken Curry
2-Chicken Manchurian - A typical "Chi-indian" dish!! A Chinese dish, cooked Indian style!!
3-Kofta Kalimirch - Vegetables and Cheese Dumplings in aromatic gravy with black pepper
4-Vegetable Manchurian - The veggie cousin of the earlier "Chi-indian" dish!!

This was accompanied by a Carrot and Corn soup, Veggie Salad , Choice of Indian (Sweet Rice pudding/Kheer) or Western (Chocolate Mousse) dessert and Coffee/Tea.

The starters
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The main course - Indian Chicken Curry with Pulao Rice
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Dessert - Chocolate Mousse


Rounding it off with a cuppa coffee


The main course was really good and filling. The soup was fine, the veggies not so much!! Dessert and coffee were in Chandler Bings words - perfection!!

The F/As were very attentive and given that the J cabin has been shrunk to just two rows on this flight, we got a pretty personalized service!! Karan the male F/A was especially outstanding interacting a lot with pax, even offering them both the dessert choices!!

Now to play with the seat  

Little pull out for ur welcome drink


Tray table tucked in
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The coat hanger, with the 9W female crew's canary yellow overcoat  

The mandatory knee shot. No complaints on leg room!!


After all the cutlery and trays were cleared, Karan brought in a bottle of water for each pax in J class


The rest of the flight was un-eventful. Caught up on some office work and a complete lack of IFE saved me from any distractions  

Soon we were descending into DEL. The crew came around with towels (dont remember if they were hot or cold!!). Had a smooth landing into DEL and soon we were on our way to dock in @ T3.

This was my second time at T3 and it still gives me a very eerie feeling. For the size and volume of the terminal, the airport is strangely deserted!! A few 9W, AI and IT birds spread here and there!!

Miles and Miles of empty gates..
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Possibly a security office,underneath the housing for one of the jetbridges


Near-deserted T3


Adieu to my throne for the last coupla hours!!
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After thanking the crew, exited the a/c through the jet-bridges and onto the vastness of T3. It was deja-vu all over again. Similar to my last trip into T3 with IT, the long corridors of T3 are deserted and empty!! Maybe i take flights that land in at all the wrong times!!

Pax exiting from our flight
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The Corridors are lovely,bright and long, But I have miles to go before people throng!! :P

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Well posted signage to guide arriving pax
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The Mudras - hand signs adorn the domestic arrival side also. On the international side, this where you would find immigration
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ATMs at the baggage claim area. There are more in the arrival greeting area also.


The glass partition separating the international and domestic arrivals. The section in the middle where I was standing would soon turn into international in a coupla hours time.
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Baggage Carousel
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This was the scene at the baggage carousel as passengers slowly trickled in. The baggage carousel goes all the way across and there is more than ample space for everybody to spread across. But very soon this spot, where u can see the spout for the bags to come through, was crowded 3-4 people deep!!

This side of the same belt completely empty  . Notice the other side
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To further highlight this strange behavior of my countrymen, a chap approached me (on this isolated side) asking where the baggage would come out from. I said its the same belt, you can collect from anywhere. He responds - "Thats alright, but where will it first come out from?!!".I cudnt help chuckle as I pointed it out to him and he pushed his trolley to join the big fat crowd that had formed at that point of the carousel!!

Haldiram's Outlet (Indian Sweets) at the baggage claim area - last moment shopping for ur loved ones in Delhi!!
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Beautiful Murals Adorning the Baggage Claim Area
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Floor Cleaning equipment. The interiors of the terminal still look spanking new.
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The huge airy baggage claim area


Gadget point at the arrival area, before you exit out into the greeting area
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Greeting area, with a "mis-leading" sign for transfer check in
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Following the sign above, I reached a deserted check in area, which had un-marked check in counters and nary a soul who had an airport pass!! I met abt 8-9 folks who had arrived by my flight and were connecting to other international flights on KL and LH. We decided to then trudge onward to the departure level, where the actual check in counters are located.

Gourmet Select - Chocs and Candies store at the arrival lounge.
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There are two ways of going to the departure level. You could exit the terminal and take a inclined travelator to the 2nd level or use one of the lifts/elevators inside. We decide to use the lift hoping it would get us directly to the check in counter.

The lift we hoped would take us to the check in counter:
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Posted at the exit of the lift at the departure level is a CISF guard, who would only let connecting pax with valid tickets through. But everytime he checked the a pax, the ones behind were stuck in the lift and if their fingers were not on the
"Open" button, they could enjoy a free return journey to the arrival section and back!! Wouldnt it make more sense to post him at the entrance to the lift!!

After all the checking, we find that we still cannot access the check in counters directly, we have to exit through Gate 8 and then re-enter through any of the other gates (after another round of ticket inspection!!). This lift actually opens out into visitors gallery at the departure gate.  

To add to my woes since, my LH flight was not open, the CISF guard would not let me enter the check in area and I had to wait outside till it opened.

Exiting out of Gate 8. Looks empty, read on and you will know why!!
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To keep and eye on my flights check in, i had to locate a FIDS and given the vastness of the airport, the number of such displays in the departure area is very limited. I had to cross 3 gates to locate one.

The elusive FIDS
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Passengers waiting for check in to open
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The visitor lounge is where one exits the elevator from the departure level.
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The inclined people-mover, that connects the arrival and departure level


You see the crowd building up?!


Well as at the baggage claim, even at the departure level, the crowd thronged the nearest entrance from the parking lot, while the farther ones were near empty. So a quick tip, if u are in DEL and in a hurry, try entering through Gates 6/7 or 1/2!!  

Once the status of my flight on the display turned to Open, I headed to the entrance and gave my tkt again for scrutiny. The CISF officer started with.. "I dont think this flight..." and I told him the status just changed to open.   He didnt ask anything further and let me in.

The check in area is quite well done. Looked pretty bright and airy.

This Elephant and Kiddo statue turned out to be a popular photo-opp spot
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LH Check In Counters. Love those motifs.
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Way onward to security and immigration, with last of the AA pax checkin in.
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While the entire check in hall is pretty wide and spacious, the checkin counters themselves seemed quite cramped and badly designed. By the time i finished check in, the Y class queue at the LH counter snaked its way beyond the LH area. Also one of the J class counters was hidden behind a giant pillar, causing a lot of confusion, with two lines formed on either side.

The LH check in area, with the giant pillar in front of a J class check in counter
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My Frequent Traveller status on LH, meant I could check in at the Business Class counter, which made life a lot smoother for me. But the fact tht LH doesnt offer lounge facility to its silver members @ DEL was a big put down. Smething about not having their own lounge!!

After check in proceeded to immigration and security. The line at security and immigration was decent and did not take much time. However at security, the air conditioning in the roof had sprung a leak and there was an array of buckets,pots n pans placed around the floor to collect the leaking water!! Not good for a 4 month old airport!!

Entering the shopping plaza post security
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Merc on display. Unfortunately not part of a lucky draw!!
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Like SYD and MEL, pax @ T3 are taken through all the duty free shopping areas before they can reach their gates.

The perfumes and cosmetics section
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The Duty Free Area. The mezanine level if where all the lounges and the food court is situated
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Luv the lights in the ceiling. Cafe at the far end
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View of the duty free centrum from the mezanine floor. Also visible are the premier lounge and the food court
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The food court on the mezanine level, including McD, Dominoes, Sandwiches, Juice n Shakes and an Indian and Chinese outlet. Also on this level is a cafe and pub which have separate seating.
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Grabbed some dinner here, waited for my colleagues who were flying in from Bangalore on a later IT flight to join me and soon we headed for our boarding gate which was going to be Gate 15.

LH flight to FRA boarding at Gate 15
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Gate 15 is the first gate that you encounter as you leave the duty free plaza. We were amongst the last few to board.

Probably one of the most recognizable icons of T3, the Sun God.



Sleeping Pods!! Did not check this out this time, but this should be a welcome relief for pax with long transit!!



Overall the transit/transfer at DEL T3 is a lot less painful than wht one had to endure earlier. However its still not smooth as silk (copyright to TG!!   ). There are some sore spots that the DEL folks could iron out and a few awareness campaigns that they need to run (Lesson 1 - spread out!!). But pax on international transit should have an easy time and the facilities at T3 will ensure a pleasant time!!

A few pics of the LH flights.

Had a hectic few nights before this travel and was completely wasted (in a non-alcoholic way!!) by the time I boarded the LH flight. Hence this part is not a full fledged TR, but a few snaps only.

Breakfast on the DEL-FRA sector. No menu cards distributed so no idea what the white mushy thing is. Not best of ways to wake up!!
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Leg room   Serves me right for gloating over the one in 9W


Y cabin in the LH 744
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UA 744 arriving from SFO. Taken from the business lounge at gate C15
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A view of the business lounge at gate C15 FRA
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Ramp view - taken from the LH 744 headed to ORD
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LH 744 from adjacent gate headed to MIA. Wish I had seat on tht!!
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Skyteam and Oneworld taken from *A flight  http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9633/15012011099.jpg

Tight seat pitch on the LH workhorse
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Rows 58-60 towards the rear provide u some stretching space against the fuselage


Ramp Action - controlling some spillage
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The flight from FRA was very bumpy and turbulent. FAs had to go back to their seat and the seat belt sign was not turned off until we left the Scottish coast.

Following our shadow, this is at crusing altitude (FL 390 if i remember rt)
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Delayed Lunch Service
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Snacks before landing - was very dry and brittle
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Landed into a snowy ORD and parked rt next to a AI 777 which flew non-stop from , u guessed it rt , DEL T3!! :P
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Flown IC , 9W , SQ , SV , GF , S2 , LX , IT , LH , OS , DN , AC , MH , 6E , MI , AA , TG , EK , QR , SG , TK , KW, UA ,
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User currently offline9W748Capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12239 times:

Thanks for the report and nice pictures. I transited DEL back in December (intl to domestic) and it was absolute hell.

Interesting that the sleeping pods are in the Int'l DEPARTURES area. How stupid is that?!!? Were the DEL designers using their pea brains at all? How many hundreds of people transit DEL every freaking day needing to transfer from an int'l to a domestic flight - probably hundreds! Yet there are ZERO facilities for such travelers. My mistake was flying into DEL on AA then booking an IC connecting flight to NAG the next morning. Had about 8 hours between flights and not a damn place I could go, nothing to do, no real restaurants I could even access. IC being IC, of course they didn't open check in for a 550 AM flight until 4 AM "because our computers can't handle it earlier." Are you kidding me the IT capital of the world and I can't even check my damn bags that I've been lugging around for 6 hours? I couldn't even go use the loo because there was zero place to put my bags, I was traveling by myself so I didn't have anyone to watch them ... It was just absolute hell. Next time I'll stick with going through BOM - even though the terminals are still separate, I can at least drop my bags off after passing through customs.


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1190 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12079 times:

The reason I avoid LH longhaul is the limited legroom on long haul flights. And the food has been cut; they used to have decent starters. To save money they copied LX with those awful green leaves.

User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2417 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11632 times:

Nice TR...

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
Breakfast on the DEL-FRA sector. No menu cards distributed so no idea what the white mushy thing is. Not best of ways to wake up!!



Well, I am a German- believe me, this is NOT breakfast. Your travel agent has made a BIG mistake- normally I always recommend to my Indian customers to order special food like Hindu meal or Vegetarian meal (Indian). German food is not everyone's taste.

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
My agent finally came up with an itinerary that would route me from BLR to DEL on 9W, DEL-FRA-ORD on LH and ORD-MIA on UA. Turns out all LH flights to MIA were also going full. The return coupla weeks later was a lot easier and I managed to get a one hop MIA-FRA-BLR routing.



I dont't get it. I have many friends from India- and all of them trust LUFTHANSA the most. In my opinion, Lufthansa and especially all flights on their B747 are always my last favour to choose from! An A380 or A340-600 ride might be ok, but the B747 is a "no way at all".


User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3462 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11306 times:
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Why am i having problems viewing the pictures? It says " Damain unregistered" to view register at bit.ly/imageshack-domain.


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User currently offlinejustbala From India, joined Feb 2006, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11119 times:

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 4):
Why am i having problems viewing the pictures? It says " Damain unregistered" to view register at bit.ly/imageshack-domain.

I think many of the folks are facing the same issue. Turns out you need to have a login id created in imageshack to even view the images!!  

I will try uploading the pics to another site.



Flown IC , 9W , SQ , SV , GF , S2 , LX , IT , LH , OS , DN , AC , MH , 6E , MI , AA , TG , EK , QR , SG , TK , KW, UA ,
User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3462 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11102 times:
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Quoting justbala (Reply 5):
I will try uploading the pics to another site.

That will be great, Thank you



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User currently offlineWhereToNext From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10658 times:

justbala,

Excellent trip report! I enjoyed your thorough coverage via pictures of the new T3 at DEL. I'm in the preliminary stages of planning a visit to a friend in Kolkata, so I've been trying to investigate (through Trip Reports haha) how to make international to domestic transfers at DEL. Thanks again and I enjoyed reading your TR!


-Matt
(WhereToNext)



Next Adventure: TBD
User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 10345 times:

Very enjoyable trip report, good work! I was at T3 six months ago - glad it is till maintained properly. I had two minor peeves - The premium lounge upstairs was not an enclosed space, so it had a lot of ambient sound form the 'Mall' below. Second peeve is THAT airport carpeting... really cheapens the look of the place.

As for DEL-ORD, hope you try AI as the inflight in Y is really good and seats are comfy on the US non-stops.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10118 times:

Nice report and pictures, enjoyed reading it.


Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offline9W748Capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9954 times:

Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 7):
I'm in the preliminary stages of planning a visit to a friend in Kolkata, so I've been trying to investigate (through Trip Reports haha) how to make international to domestic transfers at DEL. Thanks again and I enjoyed reading your TR!

I didn't write a TR about my experience (it was too horrible to want to re-live through a TR), but if I could give a few tips, they would be: 1) make your layover a reasonable length - not too short or long - I had 8+ hours and was basically stuck lugging my bags around because stupid IC is too incompetent to accomodate connecting passengers. The building might be nice and shiny, but don't expect the staff to be any different. I found it absolutely appalling how few airside facilities there are - far too few chairs to rest for the large number of transit pax, not even an internet cafe, only very basic restaurants/coffee shops. 2) Try to make your DEL-CCU leg on the same airline that you're flying in on - i.e. if you fly to DEL on 9W, then best to buy your onward ticket on 9W as well. Even if you fly to DEL on AI, I would think twice about connecting to IC - their staff are in general rude, lazy, and won't be afraid to charge you excess baggage "fees" that are BS. The hellish experience of transiting at Indian airports are why airlines like EK, QR, etc are making an absolute killing in the subcontinent.


User currently onlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2973 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9624 times:

Excellent TR justbala, great pictures once again!

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
The main course was really good and filling. The soup was fine, the veggies not so much!! Dessert and coffee were in Chandler Bings words - perfection!!

The F/As were very attentive and given that the J cabin has been shrunk to just two rows on this flight, we got a pretty personalized service!! Karan the male F/A was especially outstanding interacting a lot with pax, even offering them both the dessert choices!!

Now to play with the seat

The meal is pretty nice for a 2 hour domestic flight. The main course however resembles the J class on regional international flights, albeit slightly larger portions.

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
Following the sign above, I reached a deserted check in area, which had un-marked check in counters and nary a soul who had an airport pass!! I met abt 8-9 folks who had arrived by my flight and were connecting to other international flights on KL and LH. We decided to then trudge onward to the departure level, where the actual check in counters are located.

Justbala, transfer check-in facility is primarily for Passengers coming from international flights connecting to a domestic airline. Thus 9W, IT, AI only have their counters, I wonder how practical it is for foreign airlines to open check-in counters there. Besides didn't 9W give you a through check-in? That's a shame.

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
Leg room Serves me right for gloating over the one in 9W

lol

Overall a brlliant TR, thanks for sharing.

Quoting debonair (Reply 3):
I dont't get it. I have many friends from India- and all of them trust LUFTHANSA the most. In my opinion, Lufthansa and especially all flights on their B747 are always my last favour to choose from! An A380 or A340-600 ride might be ok, but the B747 is a "no way at all".

Lufthansa is the most trusted brand in India, because back in the awful days of Indian aviation LH was the only carrier which was daily, on time, clean planes, and efficiently transporting passengers from India to Europe/USA. A consistent performance by LH has won the hearts of many Indians which is why in this day and age people perfer LH simply because of it's trusted record.

Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 7):
I'm in the preliminary stages of planning a visit to a friend in Kolkata, so I've been trying to investigate (through Trip Reports haha) how to make international to domestic transfers at DEL. Thanks again and I enjoyed reading your TR!

Make sure you buy a single itinerary and use the same airline. Besides AA will be tweaking their schedules to align with their one world partner IT, hence AA-IT combination will ensure smooth connections.



A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
User currently onlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2973 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9616 times:

Quoting 9W748Capt (Reply 1):
Interesting that the sleeping pods are in the Int'l DEPARTURES area. How stupid is that?!!? Were the DEL designers using their pea brains at all? How many hundreds of people transit DEL every freaking day needing to transfer from an int'l to a domestic flight - probably hundreds! Yet there are ZERO facilities for such travelers.

That is because the domestic side was just 1 month old when you traveled, and all the great airports of thew world have had all sort of issues in their first year wherein facilities come up slowly and gradually.

Quoting 9W748Capt (Reply 1):
Had about 8 hours between flights and not a damn place I could go, nothing to do, no real restaurants I could even access. IC being IC, of course they didn't open check in for a 550 AM flight until 4 AM "because our computers can't handle it earlier." Are you kidding me the IT capital of the world and I can't even check my damn bags that I've been lugging around for 6 hours? I couldn't even go use the loo because there was zero place to put my bags, I was traveling by myself so I didn't have anyone to watch them ... It was just absolute hell. Next time I'll stick with going through BOM - even though the terminals are still separate, I can at least drop my bags off after passing through customs.

Check-in counters for domestic flights open roughly 2 hours prior to departure, so opening up at 4am for a 5.50am flight is not a crime committed. Again as I said earlier the facilities opened up just one month before you traveled and the teething issues are being ironed out. Besides you were in the domestic terminal in the most ungodly hours of night, that too for 8 long hours and alone .... had the transit been in the international terminal it would have been better. But thanks to the poor connectivity Nagpur (people from NAG just don't travel by air!) you do not have many choices. Flying to and from Nagpur is just a pain.



A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
User currently offline9W748Capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9338 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 12):
Check-in counters for domestic flights open roughly 2 hours prior to departure, so opening up at 4am for a 5.50am flight is not a crime committed. Again as I said earlier the facilities opened up just one month before you traveled and the teething issues are being ironed out. Besides you were in the domestic terminal in the most ungodly hours of night, that too for 8 long hours and alone .... had the transit been in the international terminal it would have been better. But thanks to the poor connectivity Nagpur (people from NAG just don't travel by air!) you do not have many choices. Flying to and from Nagpur is just a pain.

Both domestic (on AI/IC, 9W/S2, and IT anyway) and int'l check-in at the new DEL are in the same building, so I'm not sure what you mean by if my transit was in the same terminal. It was. I walked out the int'l exit and followed the sign for "transfer desk" which was of course unmanned except by a policeman who didn't speak english but pointed to the elevator when I showed him my IC ticket. I agree that NAG isn't exactly the most traveled-to destination in India so I shouldn't complain too much, but what peeved me the most was the utter lack of facilities - as you can imagine there were a large number of pax waiting in the terminal o/n and not even an internet cafe or decent restaurant to sit down in? Or even an outlet to use my laptop? Just insane. Not nearly enough chairs to relax in for the number of people. I found it funny that after finally checking in and passing through security, there are plenty of reclining chairs and outlets to relax/sleep in. What the hell's the point of putting these INSIDE and not where passengers need them the most? I understand every airport has their teething issues, but this just shows a lack of foresight. The building might be nice and shiny, but no less dysfunctional. I would have been better off flying through BOM - even with separate terminals, I could have checked my bags in with IC at the int'l terminal and taken the bus to domestic and relaxed for the night. Did this last time with 9W and it sure as hell beat what I went through at DEL.


User currently onlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2973 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9253 times:

Quoting 9W748Capt (Reply 13):

Both domestic (on AI/IC, 9W/S2, and IT anyway) and int'l check-in at the new DEL are in the same building, so I'm not sure what you mean by if my transit was in the same terminal. It was. I walked out the int'l exit and followed the sign for "transfer desk" which was of course unmanned except by a policeman who didn't speak english but pointed to the elevator when I showed him my IC ticket.

Of course, assuming you came out of the airport at 2230 hrs are so after the AA arrival, it is highly unlikely youw ill find any domestic activity as there aren't any red eye domestic departures

Quoting 9W748Capt (Reply 13):
as you can imagine there were a large number of pax waiting in the terminal o/n and not even an internet cafe or decent restaurant to sit down in? Or even an outlet to use my laptop? Just insane.

And probably you were too tired to notice the power outlets, as there are plenty of them. About cafe's and restaurants again it was still new.

Quoting 9W748Capt (Reply 13):
What the hell's the point of putting these INSIDE and not where passengers need them the most?

Yes, because Indians have the habit of using Fokat ka maal, if the facilities were landside you would see hundreds of people crowded to sleep on those as on the domestic side anyone can step into the terminal. The facility is meant for bonafide passengers only. People will bring in their 100s of relatives and say "arrrey koi baat nahi sone ke liye jagah hai sab ke liye" .. and then when passengers like you come from long trips and find no spce to sleep, again a rhetoric trip is assured.

Quoting 9W748Capt (Reply 13):
I understand every airport has their teething issues, but this just shows a lack of foresight. The building might be nice and shiny, but no less dysfunctional.

Lack of foresight? Again I'm sure a long journey must have made you tired, exhausted as that is as good as laughable.



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User currently offline9W748Capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9238 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 14):
Yes, because Indians have the habit of using Fokat ka maal, if the facilities were landside you would see hundreds of people crowded to sleep on those as on the domestic side anyone can step into the terminal.

Don't you have to show your ticket before even entering a terminal in India? I'm talking about chairs INSIDE the terminal itself, in the check-in area - where theoretically people can't even enter if they're not a ticketed passenger.

Quoting ojas (Reply 14):
Of course, assuming you came out of the airport at 2230 hrs are so after the AA arrival, it is highly unlikely youw ill find any domestic activity as there aren't any red eye domestic departures

There were a handful. Again, my point is compare this with a transfer at BOM where you can check your bags right away, making for a much more hassle-free journey. This was the most ironic part of the experience for me - is how much easier it was (relatively) at the old, separate BOM.

Quoting ojas (Reply 14):
Lack of foresight? Again I'm sure a long journey must have made you tired, exhausted as that is as good as laughable.

Certainly I was tired and exhausted, but laughable? Really? Not having enough chairs for the large number of transit passengers, not even having access to a proper restaurant or even an internet cafe (in India of all places!) - if that's not lack of foresight, I don't know what is.


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8359 times:

Hi justbala,

I have got the sense of dejá vu while reading your report, especially the DEL T3 section. It has been couple weeks ago that I wandered inside the terminal building myself.

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
Love those motifs.

Me too.

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
Also visible are the premier lounge and the food court

Been there as well! I love the second floor's interior!

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
The Mudras - hand signs adorn the domestic arrival side also. On the international side, this where you would find immigration
Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
Probably one of the most recognizable icons of T3, the Sun God.

The must see's of DEL T3!

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
Haldiram's Outlet (Indian Sweets) at the baggage claim area - last moment shopping for ur loved ones in Delhi!!

Is there any outlet in the international departure area? Too bad, I missed it.

Quoting justbala (Thread starter):
But everytime he checked the a pax, the ones behind were stuck in the lift and if their fingers were not on the
"Open" button, they could enjoy a free return journey to the arrival section and back!! Wouldnt it make more sense to post him at the entrance to the lift!!

OMG, it is like being stucked in a comedy film. By adding a scene of being crushed by the lift doors in your attempt to get out, you will have a blockbuster....

Dhanyavād for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo



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