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User currently offlineskane340 From Sweden, joined May 2008, 90 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 26382 times:

Friday 18th Feb we started our trip CPH-DOH-MNL. We where a party of 7 booked on business.
The first leg was a A330, second leg a 777.
We had made pre seating but that did not work.

The business seat in the A330 was ok, but not more. One of the IFE did not work so we changed seats.
Ordering drinks for after take of worked well... but serving them went seriously wrong.
One child (10y) years was served a Gin Tonic instead of a Sprite, after she tried the drink she said that the Sprite taste strange, we tasted and to our surprise --- no Sprite --- Gin Tonic!!

Some other drink was also mixed up, but not that seriously.

Than the ordering of the food started, we sitting in Row 4 had only one choice left out of 3, my wife allergic to fish (the choice left) got some strange noodles with tofu, not noodles which chicken as the flight attendant told us.

When the food was distributed there where some mistakes, wrong food served, yes a complete mess.
We where never asked what we wanted to drink, so only water was served. After me asking if they have wine on board the apologized and distributed the wine.

After that I had a discussion with the purser and asked here kindly if we could have a complain form. She asked me at least 3-4 times if we really need a complain form... we have the form now and I will post this tomorrow.

Who is giving the Qatar a 5***** rating... probably some person paid by the big bosses...

The rest of the flight and even the return flight went ok, except the pre seating which NEVER worked, so don't bother...

We have had some problems flying with LH and where compensated in a way or other (most time with some extra miles)...
Here we hardly got an excuse for this... until we asked for the complain form...

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User currently offlineAirMale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 25957 times:

oh, this is odd. I have flown QR a number of times in both Economy and Business Class and have not come accross anything you describe above. But I would certainly contact your local QR office in writing and tell them about your unusual experience. QR prides itself about their superior service in this is certainly not up to standard. I hope you at least enjoyed the Premium Terminal in Doha.

Happy flying.



.....up there with the best!
User currently offlineeaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 25765 times:

I flew QR from Delhi to Heathrow through Doha last week and both flights were great.

User currently offlineskane340 From Sweden, joined May 2008, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 25644 times:

Hi, I both enjoyed the premium terminal and both flights with the 777 (DOH-MNL 19th Feb and MNL-DOH 4th March). The service and seats on the segment was great.

User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 24554 times:
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Quoting skane340 (Thread starter):
She asked me at least 3-4 times if we really need a complain form... we have the form now and I will post this tomorrow.

Maybe you should know she asked you 3-4 times if you really needed a complaint form, because once you submit it, neither will she or those serving your area have their jobs anymore. Maybe you should reconsider sending it in.


User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 23975 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 4):
Maybe you should know she asked you 3-4 times if you really needed a complaint form, because once you submit it, neither will she or those serving your area have their jobs anymore. Maybe you should reconsider sending it in.

I disagree. If I screw up badly in my job, it's on me. I seriously doubt one complaint gets someone fired. If there is a lingering problem, that's a different story. Do you think it's okay for someone to do a poor job and not suffer any consequences? Especially considering Skane340 is paying QR for their services.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 23569 times:

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 5):
I disagree. If I screw up badly in my job, it's on me. I seriously doubt one complaint gets someone fired. If there is a lingering problem, that's a different story. Do you think it's okay for someone to do a poor job and not suffer any consequences? Especially considering Skane340 is paying QR for their services.

You sadly don't seem to know how QR, and in particular their poisoned dwarf CEO, operates. It really is a question of "1 complaint/mistake and you're out". They've fired cockpit crew for drinking the wrong bottle of water, and quite a few stewardesses for refusing to work "overtime" in the bosses' office. It's also the company where cabin crew are not allowed to leave the hotel on layovers without permission from Doha. A skipper once exercised command judgment on a layover in Italy, allowing a stewardess to visit her family who lived in the same city. The purser ratted on them, both got fired. It's also the company where you risk getting fired if you perform a go-around. What does that tell you?

This is not a 1st world carrier. This is a carrier which runs on a corporate policy of fear, intimidation, ratting and back stabbing. Support them if you will, my respect for my fellow human beings will not allow me to do so.



From receips and radials over straight pipes to big fans - been there, done that, got the hearing defects to prove
User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 23508 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 6):
You sadly don't seem to know how QR, and in particular their poisoned dwarf CEO, operates. It really is a question of "1 complaint/mistake and you're out". They've fired cockpit crew for drinking the wrong bottle of water, and quite a few stewardesses for refusing to work "overtime" in the bosses' office. It's also the company where cabin crew are not allowed to leave the hotel on layovers without permission from Doha. A skipper once exercised command judgment on a layover in Italy, allowing a stewardess to visit her family who lived in the same city. The purser ratted on them, both got fired. It's also the company where you risk getting fired if you perform a go-around. What does that tell you?

That's a poor company environment, I agree. But at the end of the day the purser, FA etc did not have a gun to their head when they took the job. Anyone who accepts a position needs to know the risks of the position. I know I may sound heartless, but I'm just playing devil's advocate.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 23444 times:

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 7):
That's a poor company environment, I agree. But at the end of the day the purser, FA etc did not have a gun to their head when they took the job. Anyone who accepts a position needs to know the risks of the position. I know I may sound heartless, but I'm just playing devil's advocate.

I can assure you that QR does not mention anything about their management practices when they recruit. Reminds me of this old joke:

Guy dies and finds himself at the pearly gates. He's offered a choice of upstairs or downstairs for the remainder of eternity, including the option of sampling both before choosing, He goes for upstairs first, which he finds pretty boring - just a bunch of angles sitting around playing the harp and all that. Downstairs is a bit more interesting: All his mates are out on the most spectacular of golf courses, and what seems to be the exact copies of Jessica Alba are doing the caddying (and a lot more). Later on they dine on the finest restaurant ever, sipping fine wine and smoking the best cigars. Next day is decision day, and he goes for downstairs. He's beamed down in an instant, only to find all his mates in chains slaving away in a salt mine, and the Jessica Alba's have been replaced by old harridans wielding pitchforks, Somewhat puzzled he inquires into what brought about this marked difference. "Ah" says the devil "yesterday we were selling, today we're delivering the product".

That's QR recruitment in a nutshell.



From receips and radials over straight pipes to big fans - been there, done that, got the hearing defects to prove
User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5129 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 23454 times:

I have said this before, and will say this one more time. QR advertises an image - and the consumer pays their hard earned money to buy that image. It is within the "right" of the customer (including skane340) to complain and write. It is not her/his fault that QR is messed up or that the crew still work there. The crew made a choice as well.

As for me, I have increasingly stopped flying these Gulf carriers which practically thrive on exploitation. Those at QR will know that I am not fibbing (and don't need to give "evidence" to the QR-fan boys), but their CEO and management team is seriously delusional and the human rights abuses to their worker are just a little too much for me to support consciously. Besides what has been outlined by other QR FA's, Mr. Baker is a lunatic ... I have actually seem him with a binocular in his office spot people in the tarmac and then fire them if he feels they are slacking off. It is hilarious to watch the Gaddafi-like behavior. Or, once, when during an investment banking meeting, when he stormed to check if the i-Bankers were on Facebook. Or, the "hotel" he visits where he has crew staying to "serve" other purposes. If this man and his people were not born to oil, they would be nothing.

Having said that, people on this forum will recognize that I don't support whining crews - they always have an option to quit and change their life. The trip writer is well warranted to write about the poor service received. Just keep in mind what you support when you fly QR.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1041 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 23426 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 6):
This is a carrier which runs on a corporate policy of fear, intimidation, ratting and back stabbing.

Who in his right mind would want to work there?



'He resembled a pilot, which to a seaman is trustworthiness personified.' Joseph Conrad
User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 23357 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):
I have said this before, and will say this one more time. QR advertises an image - and the consumer pays their hard earned money to buy that image. It is within the "right" of the customer (including skane340) to complain and write. It is not her/his fault that QR is messed up or that the crew still work there. The crew made a choice as well.

As for me, I have increasingly stopped flying these Gulf carriers which practically thrive on exploitation. Those at QR will know that I am not fibbing (and don't need to give "evidence" to the QR-fan boys), but their CEO and management team is seriously delusional and the human rights abuses to their worker are just a little too much for me to support consciously. Besides what has been outlined by other QR FA's, Mr. Baker is a lunatic ... I have actually seem him with a binocular in his office spot people in the tarmac and then fire them if he feels they are slacking off. It is hilarious to watch the Gaddafi-like behavior. Or, once, when during an investment banking meeting, when he stormed to check if the i-Bankers were on Facebook. Or, the "hotel" he visits where he has crew staying to "serve" other purposes. If this man and his people were not born to oil, they would be nothing.

Having said that, people on this forum will recognize that I don't support whining crews - they always have an option to quit and change their life. The trip writer is well warranted to write about the poor service received. Just keep in mind what you support when you fly QR.
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):
I can assure you that QR does not mention anything about their management practices when they recruit. Reminds me of this old joke:

Guy dies and finds himself at the pearly gates. He's offered a choice of upstairs or downstairs for the remainder of eternity, including the option of sampling both before choosing, He goes for upstairs first, which he finds pretty boring - just a bunch of angles sitting around playing the harp and all that. Downstairs is a bit more interesting: All his mates are out on the most spectacular of golf courses, and what seems to be the exact copies of Jessica Alba are doing the caddying (and a lot more). Later on they dine on the finest restaurant ever, sipping fine wine and smoking the best cigars. Next day is decision day, and he goes for downstairs. He's beamed down in an instant, only to find all his mates in chains slaving away in a salt mine, and the Jessica Alba's have been replaced by old harridans wielding pitchforks, Somewhat puzzled he inquires into what brought about this marked difference. "Ah" says the devil "yesterday we were selling, today we're delivering the product".

That's QR recruitment in a nutshell.

Thank you for the information, gentlemen. I was not aware of this. I am traveling via the middle east in a few months and have been eying EK and QR... Based on this EK is getting my $ instead. I assume EK has a slightly better internal environment...



Go big or go home
User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 23132 times:

While EK staff policy is nothing to write home about, it's light years ahead of what's the sad reality in QR.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):
Mr. Baker is a lunatic ... I have actually seem him with a binocular in his office spot people in the tarmac and then fire them if he feels they are slacking off. It is hilarious to watch the Gaddafi-like behavior. Or, once, when during an investment banking meeting, when he stormed to check if the i-Bankers were on Facebook. Or, the "hotel" he visits where he has crew staying to "serve" other purposes. If this man and his people were not born to oil, they would be nothing.

I've had the distinct displeasure of being in a meeting with AAB. Megalomaniac doesn't half cover how dysfunctional this individual is. Luckily we were buying, not selling, so had the upper hand if you can call it that, and, in the end, walked away from the negotiations.



From receips and radials over straight pipes to big fans - been there, done that, got the hearing defects to prove
User currently onlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 23120 times:

Thank you for taking the time to write.

I do have to say it seems that you are very disappointed due to mix-ups in one meal service, out of a total of 4 long haul flights.

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlinenethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 22409 times:

Sorry to hear your bad experience on QR.
They didn't sound like 5 stars airlines on your flight.

Do you have any pictures taken from your flights? Maybe those will help to support your trip report and further to your complain letter that will be sent to QR later on.

Brgds.
net



Let's just blame it on yields.
User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1130 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 21563 times:

To Skane340.
Thank you for reporting your feelings about QR on this forum. However it is good to report consistently on carriers, and not simply because you have had a terrible experience. Otherwise a skewed view might result... sort of like the idea that the majority of people seem to only leave a Skytrax review when they are pissed-off and want to let of steam, to challenge the integrity of an airline. Therefore, I tend not to rely highly on these.
The reporting seemed quite short and thin on details, so if you might consider putting a little more detail in, then this would be helpful so we can assume a well-rounded picture of your experience. Not simply the negitivities. Still, I totally agree this is sub-standard. The stewards didn't seem malitiously clumsy from the reading, and it did not seem to be an attitude problem, instead a poorly trained problem...

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 4):
Maybe you should know she asked you 3-4 times if you really needed a complaint form, because once you submit it, neither will she or those serving your area have their jobs anymore. Maybe you should reconsider sending it in.

I would only complain about a crew member if I thought they were being snotty, or specifically lazy in their work. As many QR fa's can be. However, if it was absent-mindedness, but good intentions, then I would complain about the flight as a whole.

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 5):
I seriously doubt one complaint gets someone fired.

I don't doubt this at all at QR. It is draconian!

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 6):
This is a carrier which runs on a corporate policy of fear, intimidation, ratting and back stabbing. Support them if you will, my respect for my fellow human beings will not allow me to do so.

I support them, but am becoming increasingly aware of the poor working standards, and I feel it is going to end in a damaging expose of flight conditions.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):
I have actually seem him with a binocular in his office spot people in the tarmac and then fire them if he feels they are slacking off. It is hilarious to watch the Gaddafi-like behavior.

Interesting... and topical. Maybe Baker will be overthrown. Doubtful.

I think it is coming to the fore that QR are operating a highly strict, rigid and draconian employment system. I can't say I approve, and it is the only airline that the majority of cabin crew have been too afraid - yes, afraid, to let me capture their photos, should the QR bosses sniff that they have shown their personality on a flight.

An interesting issue has been thrown up by this report. I did not realise so many were vehemently opposed!

Regards.

Luke

*Edited for dismal spelling purposes

[Edited 2011-03-07 07:12:27]


Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlinesq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1642 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21463 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 4):
Maybe you should know she asked you 3-4 times if you really needed a complaint form, because once you submit it, neither will she or those serving your area have their jobs anymore. Maybe you should reconsider sending it in.

   While I don't think there's an excuse for shoddy service, especially in a premium cabin, the consequences QR will most likely impose against the crew involved might be disproportionately dire to the sins they committed.

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 5):
I seriously doubt one complaint gets someone fired

         From what I've heard of two cabin crew friends I have at QR, that's exactly what happens. A seriously faulty HR strategy they have in place there.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 6):
You sadly don't seem to know how QR, and in particular their poisoned dwarf CEO, operates. It really is a question of "1 complaint/mistake and you're out". They've fired cockpit crew for drinking the wrong bottle of water, and quite a few stewardesses for refusing to work "overtime" in the bosses' office. It's also the company where cabin crew are not allowed to leave the hotel on layovers without permission from Doha. A skipper once exercised command judgment on a layover in Italy, allowing a stewardess to visit her family who lived in the same city. The purser ratted on them, both got fired. It's also the company where you risk getting fired if you perform a go-around. What does that tell you?

This is not a 1st world carrier. This is a carrier which runs on a corporate policy of fear, intimidation, ratting and back stabbing. Support them if you will, my respect for my fellow human beings will not allow me to do so.

Totally sounds like the QR I've heard of. This does wonders for good CRM as you would imagine. Not.

I had heard of the water bottle ridiculousness but wasn't aware of the layover restrictions!

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 8):
I can assure you that QR does not mention anything about their management practices when they recruit.

Nope they don't.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):
I have said this before, and will say this one more time. QR advertises an image - and the consumer pays their hard earned money to buy that image. It is within the "right" of the customer (including skane340) to complain and write. It is not her/his fault that QR is messed up or that the crew still work there. The crew made a choice as well.

As for me, I have increasingly stopped flying these Gulf carriers which practically thrive on exploitation. Those at QR will know that I am not fibbing (and don't need to give "evidence" to the QR-fan boys), but their CEO and management team is seriously delusional and the human rights abuses to their worker are just a little too much for me to support consciously. Besides what has been outlined by other QR FA's, Mr. Baker is a lunatic ... I have actually seem him with a binocular in his office spot people in the tarmac and then fire them if he feels they are slacking off. It is hilarious to watch the Gaddafi-like behavior. Or, once, when during an investment banking meeting, when he stormed to check if the i-Bankers were on Facebook. Or, the "hotel" he visits where he has crew staying to "serve" other purposes. If this man and his people were not born to oil, they would be nothing.

Having said that, people on this forum will recognize that I don't support whining crews - they always have an option to quit and change their life. The trip writer is well warranted to write about the poor service received. Just keep in mind what you support when you fly QR.

Saludos,
A.

As usual, you hit the nail right on the head.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 10):
Who in his right mind would want to work there?

Look at the main demographic of QR crews and you might find your answer. A vast majority of them come from the developing world where oppportunities aren't as good as what QR may have on offer (on paper at least).

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 11):
Thank you for the information, gentlemen. I was not aware of this. I am traveling via the middle east in a few months and have been eying EK and QR... Based on this EK is getting my $ instead. I assume EK has a slightly better internal environment...

I hope to see you on an EK flight soon!

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 12):
While EK staff policy is nothing to write home about, it's light years ahead of what's the sad reality in QR.

         Also true.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 12):
I've had the distinct displeasure of being in a meeting with AAB. Megalomaniac doesn't half cover how dysfunctional this individual is. Luckily we were buying, not selling, so had the upper hand if you can call it that, and, in the end, walked away from the negotiations.

   He seriously has small man syndrome from what I hear.



Keep Discovering
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21426 times:

Too bad you have a bad experience on QR, though pictures would elevate the scenario in a much better way.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 6):
It's also the company where cabin crew are not allowed to leave the hotel on layovers without permission from Doha.

That's absolutely false.

My friend came visiting me in the US for 2 years on EVERY layover he had at IAH. So unfortunately you need a fact check there.

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 16):
I had heard of the water bottle ridiculousness but wasn't aware of the layover restrictions!



A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
User currently onlineflyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 833 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 20944 times:

It is unfortunate that you had a bad flight. QR is still growing, and thus having teething problems. 1 bad flight out of 4 is still not bad. It is first time i hear such a bad experience from a QR flight.

Furhter i am very suprised about such hard opinions from people that have absolutely no idea about how things really are.
Everything from getting fired after drinking wrong water to seeing the CEO looking with binoculars out of his windows to fire people. really sad. btw, his office is on the ninth floor, has tainted windows and he needs to have one helluva binoculars to be able to see staff on the ramp through all the buildings in the way. I mean, just acomplishing that deserves a Skytrax award.

Oh yes, and Skytrax awards is paid for, and all the positve comments must be fake. And all the crew working there are slaves that get fired for making the smallest misstakes.

Strangely, that does not sound at all like the company i spent 5 years of my life with. (oh, and i am not asian or from a third world country)

One thing that people tend to forget, and that includes all gulf cariers, is that they are in the Middle East. You cannot expect it to be like Europe, or US or Australia.



I prefer to be crazy and happy rather than normal and bitter
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 20767 times:

I think the biggest concern about QR is not so much the way its service is imposed by the proverbial sword of Damocles hanging over each crewmember's head, but the effect of this on safety. Yes, QR has not had a fatal accident and I have no doubt that it invests a lot on hardware, such as simulators, but as we all know, the human element is essential in air safety; in recent years, we have learned a huge amount about psychology, CRM etc, all of which are vitally important to air safety. QR, on the other hand, seems to be operating a 21st century airline with HR practices which seem to date back to the 19th century. You can go so far with this and you can be lucky because many of the crews would have come from airlines with good CRM practices, but that's just QR's luck; sooner or later, it's own HR practices and culture are going to catch up on it.

User currently offline9W748Capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20678 times:

pardon me asking, but what is a "wrong bottle of water?" wow this AAB guy seems pretty cuckoo...

User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20650 times:

Quoting ojas (Reply 17):
My friend came visiting me in the US for 2 years on EVERY layover he had at IAH. So unfortunately you need a fact check there.

Apologies, my statement needs to be qualified a bit: It's not allowed for FEMALE cabin crew etc ...



From receips and radials over straight pipes to big fans - been there, done that, got the hearing defects to prove
User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 998 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 20635 times:

Quoting flyboy_se (Reply 18):
One thing that people tend to forget, and that includes all gulf cariers, is that they are in the Middle East. You cannot expect it to be like Europe, or US or Australia.

Yes of course there are cultural differences, but I'm not ready to support any kind of business culture, no matter where the company is from. I usually travel between Europe and Asia and there are plenty of choices.


User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 20123 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 21):
It's not allowed for FEMALE cabin crew etc ...

That too is absolutely false.

And while not on this forum, on the ground at Doha I can provide you with any number of evidence to substantiate my comments.



A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
User currently onlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1883 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 20080 times:

The guy doesnt get served his first choice of meal, and starts bashing the airline.

And then ignorant posts and human rights, apparent torture camps, ect...

Nontheless other forumers apparently make up stuff which is NOT true. Check other QR Trip Reports and in other websites and youll see if what is being said is true or not.

Very typical.



لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
25 jetfuel : I have never flown Qatar but when it comes to basic airline safety, without considering levels of luxury, comfort or service, I will never fly with t
26 B777LRF : No, it is not: They need the express permission of the Skipper, and he needs a green light from Doha.
27 flyboy_se : Apparenly you know more than the actual crew of the airline
28 Post contains links flightsimboy : Perhaps you need to go through the details found on this forum http://www.pprune.org/cabin-crew-wan...rways-wannabes-recruitment-ii.html[Edited 2011-
29 QatarA340 : Seriously, stop spreading BS around. People like you tend to spread false images to show people the bad picture of what is really happeneing. Basic A
30 raffik : Why shouldn't he complain? Business class tickets are not cheap and for the price he expects an excellent level of service. Even if i am buying an eco
31 Post contains images Luftfahrer : It's quite a pity that QR cabin crews who have been commended for the most part on this board continue to work in an apparently poor environment. It
32 flyboy_se : Yes, it is terribly poor environment, that is the reason so many stay at the company for years.
33 flightsimboy : Luftfahrer your post made my day Don't get me wrong, I am a real QR fan, even though I have not flown with them YET!! I look forward to welcoming Qat
34 ojas : No they do not. And at Doha I can provide a thousand evidences to support my claim.
35 manny : The OP has every right to file a complaint if he felt the service provided was less than expected. If he does not do someone else down the road will d
36 QatarA340 : Appaled? Umm.. How about waiting for 2 hours in New York being asked by Homeland Security Officers personal questions and being interrogated like I d
37 jayeshrulz : Is there any picture to add as an belief? Any Kind of Information to confirm that you actually flew? Any details? If No, then i feel this thread is po
38 skane340 : Hi, thank you all for your comments. I want to make clear that if I pay business or even first class I expect a better service than in economy. This t
39 manny : If that was based purely on discrimination then nobody should have any right to question you (no pun) if you choose to avoid traveling to the US. Wha
40 lalib : Op was right in complaining. After all did the cabin crew do anything to rectify their mistakes?
41 picturethis : I don't understand the real need for a plethora of photos. "this is a photo of the cabin crew mixing up a lemonade for a gin and tonic" haha Mix ups
42 QatarA340 : I agree. Discrimination anywhere in the world is bad. The people in Qatar and the airports in the US should consider changing their attitude. I've se
43 Aerofan : Send it if you paid for the ticket!
44 lukeyboy95 : Pictorial TR's are vastly more popular than non-illustrated account, so I think some others must understand the need. And with your name too!
45 signol : I think it's more that, if the OP is going to write and complain about the problems he had, pictoral evidence will help his case. signol
46 Eltomzo : I would appreciate some clarity on this whole issue of QR's evil-sounding corporate culture. I have been hearing rumours of their poor treatment of ca
47 sankaps : Wow, quite a thread! Over the last 3-4 years I have flown QR several times in business class (US / UK to Doha and then beyond) and find their physical
48 DBCooper : I am just back from flying QR JFK-DOH RT in J. Was pleasantly surprised. Great ground staff @ JFK (hard to come by in NYC) and excellent on-board serv
49 oa260 : Some interesting comments regarding the crew and treatment etc.. A very good friend of mine is now working for them so it will be interesting to hear
50 Post contains images wn700driver : First off, just wanted to say that this is a terrible trip report. No pics, and frankly not much more than a thinly disguised rant. But if you had pos
51 Post contains images brons2 : Well, I have a need to fly to Doha at least 3-4 times over the next 18 months or so. The only airline offering nonstops from Texas-Doha is QR. OK, so
52 777way : QR are only hiring female cabin crew from Pakistan and actually advertise it as such, do they have such a policy for some countries? why not be open t
53 VonRichtofen : Same here. What do you guys expect? A picture of the child's grimacing face the instant he sips the gin and tonic? Pic of an IFE screen showing the b
54 KFitz : "Flat denials"? It looks like the only place those are coming from in this thread is a teenager from Qatar sitting in front of his computer monitor t
55 777way : Wrong, there is also another non-Qatari member with contacts in the airline who is also speaking up against some concocted lies put up here.
56 KFitz : I'm sorry, what's "wrong" exactly? Care to attempt and prove anything you are saying with factual evidence?
57 777way : Wrong that you are claiming the Qatari guy is the only person defending QR. and the other non-Qatari person is willing to privide his crew friends to
58 KFitz : So just to be clear, you can provide me with no factual evidence yourself? I see. Thanks What makes you so more inclined to believe one person saying
59 abrelosojos : = Haha. Classic. Saludos, A.
60 777way : Could it be you are no more tan a teenager yourself? again you seem to ignore the fact that another non-Qatari member from INDIA to make it more clear
61 QatarA340 : Really?? Please enlighten us. Whose the Qatari teenager? Wow, nice post. This guy gives a TR with no pics, and starts bashing because his friend is a
62 777way : Related to ungrateful crew If I didnt have issues that would make me unfit for this position, I would have sent mail direct to Bakar and literally beg
63 kiramakora : As an FYI, QR has the highest attrition rate amongst all Gulf carriers. And the people who leave are mostly from Asia and Africa. Next time you are o
64 KFitz : So you want to be what amounts to a slave, making a quarter of all other workers, basically asking to be treated in whichever way the management feel
65 wn700driver : Why? If someone wants to work for less than someone else, I don't see the crime there. Idiotic, no doubt, but if that's what he wants, he can have it
66 sq_ek_freak : I was going to comment on 777way's post and the various fallicies in it, but this sums it up as well as it can be. Just look at the numbers, and it's
67 AirMale : Can this still be considered a TRIP Report?
68 777way : Ok EK lover we know where you are coming from so lets not even go any further, as for the guy with the foo-foo words go with flow man eh? Ojas has val
69 KFitz : when all you are presenting in refutation is nonsense, yah, save your breath.
70 srbmod : At this point, the discussion has veered away from being a trip report discussion to something better suited to Civ-Av. As a result, this thread is no
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