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MAN-CDG-MAD-AMS-MAN With AF/KL  
User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8960 times:

Back in the saddle after a long 14 weeks out of the game, its time to hit the road again. Welcome to my latest trip report for A.NET

Making Plans.

Anything!!! Just give me anything that will get me back into an Airport and onto a plane. That was the thought running through my head. I can't spend much longer stuck on terra firma. This self imposed ban on flying was to allow my bank balance to recover somewhat before starting out with the 2011 season. As things returned to normal in that department it was time to start the search for some routes.
I had decided that for this year I was going to focus, where possible on flying routes within Europe that I had not previously logged. To add to this, my FlightMemory was showing a visited Airport total of 48. Obviously, this had to be rounded up to 50 on this trip.

For European routes I like to use Expedia. In the past I have found some decent fares by booking a return flight (including a Saturday night stop) to a given destination with a connection in either direction. I randomly typed in MAD as my destination and was presented with a route that would have me flying 4 new routes MAN-CDG-MAD-AMS-MAN and covering the 2 new airports needed to get me to the half century, these being CDG and MAD. The outbound legs were with Air France and the return with KLM giving me 2 new airlines for my collection also. The price was good at £141.50, so nothing much to think about in that area before moving my mouse arrow onto the purchase button. Interestingly, the fare was made up of a £4.50 Expedia charge and taxes/fees of £133.00 leaving just £4.00 in the ticket price. At just over £35 per segment I was happy with the outcome regardless.

Here is the route, shown using GreatCircleMapper.


I also needed a hotel for the Saturday night in Madrid. Using Expedia again I did a quick search of Hotels in the vicinity of the Airport. Looking for value over luxury I picked the Tryp Alameda Aeropuerto. 1km from the Airport with free shuttle bus service and an easy to swallow price of £58. We will look at the hotel in more detail later in this report.

12:03:2011

With the first leg not leaving until 15.10 there was no need for the early wake up call this time, and just as well really. A friend of mine recently got engaged to his girlfriend so we decided to throw a bit of a dinner/drink session for them back at my house the night before this trip. A very enjoyable evening was had, but as is the case when things get merry I was left feeling in a fragile state the following morning. No time to feel sorry for myself, better get moving before too long.

As usual I took the train over to Manchester and everything ran to time.
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Terminal 3 was the departure point again today. I wanted to check in at a desk in the hope of getting all Four boarding passes. This took some time as there was a slow moving line of about 15 people in front. The process seemed really slow on this occasion. Once at the desk I was checked in for all Four segments with window seats secured.

One of the T3 check in areas. EasyJet having the longest queue with perhaps not very regular flyers slowing the process down.
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Still feeling the effects of last nights booze I stopped by Costa for a bite to eat before negotiating security. I didn't feel like there excuse for a sandwich really helped matters though. At security the line up was really slow moving as well and some 30 minutes passed before I was stripping off to pass the metal detector. Must be one of those days?
Once through I found a window and watched some of the comings and goings.

Helvetic F100 operating for SWISS on the ZRH run.
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Route: MAN-CDG
Airline: Air France (1st time flying this airline)
Flight Number: AF2269
Aircraft: A318 (1st time flying this type)
Seat: 19A
Economy Class
Flight Duration: 1hr:11m
Reg: F-GUGC (1st time on this aircraft)

Boarding was eventually called and I headed off to gate 44. The original booking showed this service to be operated by an A319 so I was happy to see a smaller A318 attached to the bridge once there. A new type into the log book for me.
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Seated in row 19, I was in the first boarding group. A member of cabin crew was welcoming people on board with a cheery bonjour. For sure the Two Female crew members on this flight were quite pleasing to the eye. Seated just behind the wing I was not far from the back of this baby bus. The cabin looked quite fresh and was fitted with the slimline, non-reclining type seats. Legroom was ok for a flight of this short duration.
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With a load of around 70% there were quite a number of empty middle seats looking down the cabin. Thankfully, this was the situation on row 19 as well helping with the feeling of space. Boarding was completed with time to spare but we remained on stand until the scheduled departure time. ATC were unable to accommodate an earlier departure.

It was quite an overcast day in Manchester so I was looking forward to climbing out of the murk and into the sunshine.
Just a couple of climb out shots.
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Once into the cruise the drinks service started. In my hungover situation I decided the best bet was to keep drinking, so I went for the red wine and was also served some biscuit type snack bites. That wine took some getting down I can tell you. Like swallowing a brick, but I managed.
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Time to just sit back and look out of the window. Unfortunately it remained cloudy all the way down to Paris and we descended into similar conditions that were left behind in Manchester.

A few shots of the approach.
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The final approach was quite a bumpy affair. Some heavy gusts of wind catching the vertical stabiliser and causing some quite noticeable yaw. As we approached 500ft the winds became less and we made a relatively smooth touchdown onto the runway followed by a taxi over to T2 E.
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AF territory for sure here.
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A layover of 1hr:25m was shown on the booking so I was happy to note an early arrival at the gate. By the time I had actually got off the plane this was back to the forecast time. Being my First visit to CDG I decided to head straight to my next gate to avoid any unwelcome surprises. The scene that greeted me at the passport check was something along those lines however. Only One fast lane desk was open and One desk for connecting passengers to all T2 zones. I joined the back of a long queue and watched the minuets tick by. The line seemed to move at different speeds but I made it through with about 40mins in hand. Liquids and laptop out for a scan next before entering the F section of T2 and then on to gate 31 with time to grab a sandwich before boarding.
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Route: CDG-MAD
Airline: Air France (2nd time flying this airline)
Flight Number: AF2100
Aircraft: A320 (22nd time flying this type)
Seat: 19A / Switched to 22F
Economy Class
Flight Duration: 1h:40m
Reg: F-GFKJ (1st time on this aircraft)

Time then for another surprise and also another First for me. F-GFKJ was being prepared at the bridge attached to gate 31 meaning? Yes, my First ride on a RetroJet.
Here she is waiting for the mission to MAD.(sorry for reflections, best I could do)
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In keeping with the retro livery, the interior was trying its best to join the same era here. (taken after landing)
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I could feel a marked difference with legroom in a negative way and the position of the stowed try table seemed to impede the upper body area. Nice to meet a friendly crew again though.
Quite a low load to mention here. Around 25-30% with many empty rows.

Safety demo carried out in the usual fashion followed with a pre-recorded version spoken in Japanese for the benefit of around 8 passengers of that nationality. It was unclear if they were on vacation or trying to get home so I hoped for them that all was fine with their family's and property after the recent earthquake and its after effects.

Push back and start on time before heading out to runway 26R with no need to hold position before advancing the throttles and climbing out with some light buffeting still catching us.
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Things soon smoothed out and once above the cloud I could see the sun setting off to the starboard side. Typical that I find myself on the wrong side, but the low passenger load allows me to move across once the seatbelt light turns off.
Speaking of the seatbelt. I quite like the AF title etched into the buckle.
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A couple of views as the suns light fades from this part of the world.
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Soon onto the snack/drink service. Just a small Ham sandwich on offer, lacking any real substance I felt, but happy to accept another small bottle of Red. Perhaps a little on the cold side though.
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Nothing much going on through the window now it was dark aside from the occasional flash off lightning from the cloud in the distance. Time to grab a little sleep while things were quiet.
I woke up during the decent and prepared my things for landing. During the latter stages of the approach I noticed someone shining a laser pointer at out plane from the ground. I hear this is becoming something of a problem lately and was quite shocked at its powerful effect even at around 5000ft.

Just one attempt at a picture during final.
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We made a smooth touchdown after 1h:40m flying time and started the long taxi over to T2. Looks from the outside as though this part of the airport is the poor relation.

Now time to head off the plane and phone the hotel for the shuttle service pick up. Easily arranged and picked up inside 5minutes, a good first impression. Just a few minutes more then until arrival at the hotel entrance. A strange location without doubt. Something of an industrial feel, slightly run down also. Efficient check in but with the bad news of no complimentary wi-fi. Lets have a look at the room.
Nice big bed and an ok feel to the place.
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Clean bathroom but the décor is not to my taste.
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I headed downstairs for a beer. Friendly service by the bar staff and a modern feel to this section. No picture taking here i'm afraid due to a very busy area. Didn't want to ruffle any feathers of the camera shy amongst the guests. Mainly older generations staying here tonight, perhaps into the 50-60 age bracket.

Back upstairs and time to get some sleep then? Well that was the plan but I struggled to get to sleep for some reason. Some shouting was going on from outside which didn't help. Maybe after a couple of hours I drifted off, but with a departure time at a reasonable 10:15 nothing to worry about.

13:03:2011

I woke up in time for a quick bath before grabbing my stuff and checking out. Plenty of takers for the shuttle service, in fact, a full bus of 18. Only me for Terminal 2 though. Iberia taking the rest of the passengers to their destinations from T4.
As mentioned, I had my boarding passes already, so just time for a quick picture land side.
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Breezed through the relevant checks to get airside and went for some breakfast.
Lemon Fanta with a Cheese and Ham roll and a calorific chocolate doughnut. Hey, I sold my car and now cycle 14 miles per day to work and back. I can eat this junk and avoid the weight gain effects now. Maybe?
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Some views over the ramp while waiting for my next flight.
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Hey, whats this? Yes, no mistake, time to fly another RetroJet. What are the chances to get two in succession?
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Route: MAD-AMS
Airline: KLM (1st time flying this airline)
Flight Number: KL1700
Aircraft: 737-800(W) (14th 737 flight)
Seat: 15F
Economy Class
Flight Duration: 1h:55m
Reg: PH-BXA (First time on this aircraft)

Judging by the number of people around the gate a high load looks to be on the cards. One thing to note is the high number of priority boarders. I guess with only 15 segments needed to hit Silver status in FlyingBlue this is understandable.

Down the bridge and onto the plane then and the cabin looks nice. Good use of colours, again the slimline seats feature and everything looks clean. Big smiles from the cabin crew and a friendly hello to everyone as boarding continues. Legroom feels to compare to the First AF flight yesterday, so good news in that department. Passenger load was high at around 95%.
Something else to note here. I noticed one of the staff that had checked people in at the gate was on the plane with some paperwork in hand and trying to track down a certain person. The guy in question was sat in front of me. Seems that his hold bag had tried to make an escape while being driven out to the aircraft. Turns out that it was badly damaged as it was dragged along after falling. He seemed quite calm and was informed that KL will replace the damaged item once in AMS. A nice idea to tell him I thought as to prevent him thinking his bag had been broken into once it appears on the carousel.

We pushed back around 5 minutes late and made the long taxi over to runway 15L. Flight time was expected to be two hours and I was watching the time here. Only 40 minuets to connect in AMS left me somewhat uneasy so any time that could be gained was welcome.

Uneventful takeoff with fairly smooth conditions all the way up to a cruise altitude of FL380
Some pictures of the climb.
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Onto the food and drink then. I was interested to see how the service compared to partner AF here.
Nice to see a good sized sandwich, nicely presented in a colourful carton with two different fillings, beef and an egg mayonnaise. Quite tasty. A good selection of drinks were offered and I went with Sprite.
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We were also offered a caramel biscuit.
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And the choice of Tea or Coffee. Black Coffee here to wake me up.
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Oh, can't forget the legroom shot.
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Just before top of descent the Captain was on the PA system to give us some arrival information. I was very happy to learn that 18C was our landing runway today and not the Polderbaan, meaning that the dreaded 15 minute taxi was replaced with a reasonable 5 minute taxi and more time for the transfer was secured.

Couple of landing pictures.
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Less hanging around this time to get the transfer. A quick check of the next departure gate and on the way there after only 5 minutes. Something of a long line to be found at passport control so I tried my luck with the priority lane. The lady there understood my situation and granted my request to use it. Maybe 10 minutes there before a fast walk to D41 with a quick luggage scan at the gate just as boarding is called. Nice timing.

Just a minute to get a shot of the 737-700 for this flight.
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Route: AMS-MAN
Airline: KLM (2nd time flying this airline)
Flight Number: KL1087
Aircraft: 737-700(W) (15th 737 flight)
Seat: 11F
Economy Class
Flight Duration: 0h:58m
Reg: PH-BGG (1st time on this aircraft)

Straight down the air bridge and onto my next ride to find another high load factor. Looks to be a real mix of passengers here. Business men in nice suits right through to young lads with a “spaced out” look on their faces. Perhaps too much of the substances consumed here that are frowned upon elsewhere.....?

PrivatAir in the distance. Push back right after we moved off.
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Departure off the Kaagbaan(if I recall correctly)giving a good view of how far away the Polderbaan really is from the rest of the airport.
Some pictures during the climb.
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A close up of the Blended Winglet.
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Other familiar locations to me spotted also, including my parents house meaning we were tracking toward the Pole Hill VOR before receiving radar vectors for an intercept on the 23R localizer.

Approach views.
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Nice touchdown on 23R and a opportunity to photograph this EK A380 as it trundles out for a trip home to DXB.
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A nice welcome in Manchester with some sunshine for a change. Quite rare for this time of year.
Time to head for a gate at T2. Its been a while since I was in this terminal. Singapore Airlines used to feature in my plans more often back then.

I let the scramble to de-plane pass and then headed out to catch the train home. No time to wait here, the train was about ready to pull away.
Nothing really to mention about the train ride home. The usual old style trains with dirty interiors.

Airline Conclusion.

Air France: Not bad at all. The first flight with the new interior was obviously the better of the two in terms of cabin feel. The crews were absolutely fine on both legs. Smart in appearance, friendly and welcoming.
Perhaps the only below par area was the catering. Its not taken for granted these days to receive anything with certain airlines, but I felt the offerings here to be behind the curve.

KLM: Again, a good feel to the cabin with a decent amount of legroom. Crews of a very similar style to AF.
Im going to give KLM the upper hand here. The catering was above my expectations both in terms of quantity and quality. Nice to see the sandwich presented in such a way. Sometimes these little things make a big difference


Overall Trip Conclusion.

Another good weekend without doubt. Four new routes into the books and the 50 visited airports now secured.
Luck played something of a part to find two flights with both AF and KL RetroJets.
All arrivals on-time or early helping with the connections along the way.

One thing is for sure, the more of these trips I take, the more i'm loving this hobby.


Hope you enjoyed reading this report on these two partners and their European services.
Cheers, Lee.

[Edited 2011-03-17 12:01:32]

[Edited 2011-03-17 12:03:48]

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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5137 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

Hi, Lee,

what a nice read.
Good photos and well done story.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Back in the saddle after a long 14 weeks out of the game, its time to hit the road aga

Welcome back, I hope you stay this way.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
I had decided that for this year I was going to focus, where possible on flying routes within Europe that I had not previously logged.

Good idea, you know my choice with the departure airports, 184 examples acutally.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):

Time then for another surprise and also another First for me. F-GFKJ was being prepared at the bridge attached to gate 31 meaning? Yes, my First ride on a RetroJet.

Congrats, that looks really nice.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Mainly older generations staying here tonight, perhaps into the 50-60 age bracket.

You never know what´s going on, I´ve stayed in fully design places with oldfashioned and less amusing company at the bar and at the other hand side with lower level stations like for example Motel One and funny people all around.
The Radisson Berlin tomorrow night, that example with the indoor aquarium, we will see.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Hey, I sold my car and now cycle 14 miles per day to work and back

Wow, that sounds hard.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):

One thing is for sure, the more of these trips I take, the more i'm loving this hobby.

Really good choice, hope to see more from you´re hand soon.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinefiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8303 times:

Whats with the headphone socket being at the bottom of the iPod? Or is it an illusion.

Other than that, a nice TR.


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7811 times:

Great TR and pictures !!!

Glad you like the company of AF-KL  

Very, very lucky indeed to score 2 retro-jets on the same trip; have flown BXA once too, but was still in the original KLM blue c/s  
Almost flew SAS319 in retro colours myself, but that plane was changed at the very last minute, for technical reasons  

318 is quite rare to fly on IMHO, but don't you think the 737-700 is the best of all 4 ?

Cheers...



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1846 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7428 times:
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Hi Lee, thanks for sharing. 1x 318 and 2x Retrojet, very nice! Glad KLM treated you well.

Regards, Martijn



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7373 times:

Hi Lee,

Great stuff - that's what I call an enjoyable (half a) weekend, but of course I'd probably throw in a couple of more flights with some obscure airports and additional carriers...  

It's not easy to say which airline is better - AF has more interesting equipment (A318!) and of course some of that French charm is just so darn hard to resist  , but the KLM inflight offering is definitely better and as an airport AMS wins CDG hands down. Roissy is the pits, if you ask me, despite having this confusing appearance of a a nice and modern airport it just plain sucks.

Your story actually inspired me on looking up some KL/AF combo routings - I found some affordable and interesting ones ex-HEL, so let's see, might do some of these in the future.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Back in the saddle after a long 14 weeks out of the game, its time to hit the road again. Welcome to my latest trip report for A.NET

Hey, that's a long time grounded. I can't even remember when I had such a gap, must've been a good few years  . But good to have you back, mate.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
To add to this, my FlightMemory was showing a visited Airport total of 48. Obviously, this had to be rounded up to 50 on this trip.

I have the same objective for this year, although my target is set at 200 (currently at 187)  . This brings some problems with it as I've pretty much covered all the first tier and a good chunk of second tier European airports as well, so it's more and more of obscure out of the way places which of course means lots of flights with Ryan, Wizz and regional airlines - but that's fun in my books  .

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
The original booking showed this service to be operated by an A319 so I was happy to see a smaller A318 attached to the bridge once there. A new type into the log book for me.

Now that's a good surprise!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
The scene that greeted me at the passport check was something along those lines however. Only One fast lane desk was open and One desk for connecting passengers to all T2 zones. I

Welcome to CDG, mate! That place is an absolute disgrace - but then again there's something very French about the whole mess...

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Time then for another surprise and also another First for me. F-GFKJ was being prepared at the bridge attached to gate 31 meaning? Yes, my First ride on a RetroJet.

Hey, congratulations! I don't think I've ever flown on a retro plane.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Nice big bed and an ok feel to the place.

Yep, Tryp is my preferred hotel chain when staying anywhere at the Iberian Peninsula - usually quite affordable, always very clean, modern and nice properties.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Clean bathroom but the décor is not to my taste.

I once stayed at some other Tryp near MAD airport - can't remember the name but it was a 20 EUR (honest driver when going in) or 30 EUR (bloody scamming driver when coming back the next morning) taxi drive from T4 - the bathroom was exactly the same!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Hey, whats this? Yes, no mistake, time to fly another RetroJet. What are the chances to get two in succession?

Now that's a surprise! Congratulations, that's indeed very rare.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
BA from up here. An Airport closer to my house than MAN but one I hardly ever use.

So not a big fan of Jet2, are we?


User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 7038 times:

Hi Lee,

what a nice weekend you had! I'm deeply envious, especially if I think that on this weekend the weather here is glorious and views of the Alps from above must be absolutely awesome. And what a lucky coincidence that you managed to secure two retro liveries on the same trip! I have to say that, despite my liking for the Air France bus, KLM is the winner: they managed to make a 737 - a type of aircraft which I don't like - gorgeous. I wonder why they don't paint every airplane in their fleet with such a livery... The 77W would surely be a thing of beauty.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):

In keeping with the retro livery, the interior was trying its best to join the same era here. (taken after landing)

That's hilarious! However, am I the only thinking that old seats were more comfortable than those new Recaro deckchairs which are so popular nowadays? I'm quite afraid to try the new ones which LH, OS and I guess IB are fitting on their planes.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
The guy in question was sat in front of me. Seems that his hold bag had tried to make an escape while being driven out to the aircraft. Turns out that it was badly damaged as it was dragged along after falling. He seemed quite calm and was informed that KL will replace the damaged item once in AMS.

That's a good customer service, if I were that guy I wouldn't feel bad at all towards the airline. At least they made the effort to tell him in advance and offered him a refund... millions miles away from the behaviour of certain others who'll act as if nothing happened. Kudos to KLM!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Straight down the air bridge and onto my next ride to find another high load factor. Looks to be a real mix of passengers here. Business men in nice suits right through to young lads with a “spaced out” look on their faces. Perhaps too much of the substances consumed here that are frowned upon elsewhere.....?

That is, I guess, typical on flights leaving Amsterdam! I once took a bus with a planeload of Easyjet passengers coming back from Armin Only in Utrecht plus a weekend spent trying every different form of Haze-named weed... Just taking the bus receipts off their pockets took ages, you can image the baggage collection process or the discussions on board!


User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6966 times:

Thank you for the comments.



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
what a nice read.
Good photos and well done story.

Thank you Markus.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Welcome back, I hope you stay this way.

Yes, a small gap of 5 weeks until my next trip and then the gates really open.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Good idea, you know my choice with the departure airports, 184 examples acutally.

An impressive total, showing some dedication for sure. 200 not too far away then mate?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
You never know what´s going on, I´ve stayed in fully design places with oldfashioned and less amusing company at the bar and at the other hand side with lower level stations like for example Motel One and funny people all around.
The Radisson Berlin tomorrow night, that example with the indoor aquarium, we will see.

Yea, I think perhaps the more expensive hotels attract a clientele that like to keep things to themselves. I quite like the outgoing people you can fing yourself chatting too in some of the lower scale chains.
Enjoy the Radisson mate. I favourite chain of mine, if a little heavy on the pocket.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Wow, that sounds hard.

Its been ok to be honest. The weather plays the major role you know.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Really good choice, hope to see more from you´re hand soon.

For sure Markus, likewise also.

Quoting fiscal (Reply 2):
Whats with the headphone socket being at the bottom of the iPod? Or is it an illusion.

As far as I know fiscal, I-PHONE has socket at the top and I-POD touch has the socket as shown.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
Great TR and pictures !!!

Glad you like the company of AF-KL  

Thanks MH017. Yea, I was very happy with the outcome. No hesitation to fly either again in the future.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
Almost flew SAS319 in retro colours myself, but that plane was changed at the very last minute, for technical reasons  

Unlucky. I guess this is the situation in a dynamic industry. Hope you find yourself on it at some stage in the future. I quite like the SAS RetroJet.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
318 is quite rare to fly on IMHO, but don't you think the 737-700 is the best of all 4 ?

Totally Agree. Not too many examples around.
Well im a Boeing fan. I would say that from a passenger point of view there is nothing in it. In terms of looks I would give any 737 series (especially with winglets) the edge over any A318/19/20/21.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 4):
Hi Lee, thanks for sharing. 1x 318 and 2x Retrojet, very nice! Glad KLM treated you well.

Hi Martijn.
Yea a good score for sure. I had wanted to try KLM for some time but never got around to it. I was happy with the service and will return for more.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Great stuff - that's what I call an enjoyable (half a) weekend, but of course I'd probably throw in a couple of more flights with some obscure airports and additional carriers...  

Yea, you would have probably tagged another six on knowing you.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Your story actually inspired me on looking up some KL/AF combo routings - I found some affordable and interesting ones ex-HEL, so let's see, might do some of these in the future.

Thats good to hear mate. There does seem to be some good deals flying (pun) around just now.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Hey, that's a long time grounded. I can't even remember when I had such a gap, must've been a good few years  . But good to have you back, mate.

Something I don't want to repeat any time soon. Thank you.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
I have the same objective for this year, although my target is set at 200 (currently at 187)  . This brings some problems with it as I've pretty much covered all the first tier and a good chunk of second tier European airports as well

Good point. I guess getting the big hubs is easy and then the real work finding routes in and out begins. Im sure you will snag the 200 this year.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Welcome to CDG, mate! That place is an absolute disgrace - but then again there's something very French about the whole mess...

I was expecting some mess after a few unkind reviews from friends.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Hey, congratulations! I don't think I've ever flown on a retro plane.

Now that is a surprise

.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
I once stayed at some other Tryp near MAD airport - can't remember the name but it was a 20 EUR (honest driver when going in) or 30 EUR (bloody scamming driver when coming back the next morning) taxi drive from T4 - the bathroom was exactly the same!

I have a feeling most taxi drivers try this with me. Thats why I prefer the free shuttle if available.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
So not a big fan of Jet2, are we?

I don't mind them really. I think they have made a massive difference to LBA and created a lot of jobs in the area. The thing is its a bit more awkward for me to get to LBA v MAN.
Looking at some of the LS fares I think I will see myself making some bookings soon. A good way to log more routes in Europe. The MAN operation looks to be expanding nicely too.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 6):
Hi Lee,

what a nice weekend you had! I'm deeply envious, especially if I think that on this weekend the weather here is glorious and views of the Alps from above must be absolutely awesome. And what a lucky coincidence that you managed to secure two retro liveries on the same trip! I have to say that, despite my liking for the Air France bus, KLM is the winner: they managed to make a 737 - a type of aircraft which I don't like - gorgeous. I wonder why they don't paint every airplane in their fleet with such a livery... The 77W would surely be a thing of beauty.

Hi JL418.

A big surprise to find the two RetroJets in the plans. I feel also that the KL jet is the best of the two in terms of looks. It would be very interesting to see a 777 in that scheme. Im not sure if iv'e seen any widebodys with a Retro flavour?

Quoting JL418 (Reply 6):
That's a good customer service, if I were that guy I wouldn't feel bad at all towards the airline. At least they made the effort to tell him in advance and offered him a refund... millions miles away from the behaviour of certain others who'll act as if nothing happened. Kudos to KLM!

For sure honesty is the best policy. I was impressed with their actions.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 6):
That is, I guess, typical on flights leaving Amsterdam! I once took a bus with a planeload of Easyjet passengers coming back from Armin Only in Utrecht plus a weekend spent trying every different form of Haze-named weed... Just taking the bus receipts off their pockets took ages, you can image the baggage collection process or the discussions on board!

Ha ha, would be interesting to see/hear for comedy value. Hey, my bag's commin round on the carousel.... Ah man, I missed it again.....


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6941 times:

Hi Lee,

congrats, 2x retro an A318, nice score! I only got on the LH Retro A321 so far. But I think the B737-700 of KLM was the best in terms of the cabin feeling/legroom? Did you notice BXA has 'white' winglets without the KLM logo. Maybe they borrowed a pair from HV for some reason...
KLM's catering is very fine these days, though, I still miss the free newspaper.

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 742 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6842 times:

Hey Lee

Which music do you play on your Ipod? can not read

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Air France (1st time flying this airline)

oh really??? welcome on board

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
That wine took some getting down I can tell you

more with AF, than KLM, the red wine is very often ice-cold, which is brutal for wine loving airline's country

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Yes, my First ride on a RetroJet

I was quiet surprised you got AF retro jet in CDG-MAD, as sometimes seen at your home airport MAN:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/intore/...20724297/in/set-72157625375302645/

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
What are the chances to get two in succession?

moreover from the same airline/group

Anyway glad to see you back and thanks for posting this enjoyable TR

East African Spotter



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User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6569 times:

AlwaysOnAPlane - I've really enjoyed your other reports so this one was also great to read as well. Thanks for posting this. How lucky were you - getting two retrojets ! Very jealous indeed. Great catch. I am off to MAD in a couple of weeks on a BA EM190 out of LCY. Can't wait for that.

Looking forward to more reports - are you travelling anywhere again soon??

P/jet



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5075 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6381 times:

Thanks for the comparison of the two airlines in the AF/KL family. Always recognize how time consuming these reports are to write, so big thank you!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
By the time I had actually got off the plane this was back to the forecast time. Being my First visit to CDG I decided to head straight to my next gate to avoid any unwelcome surprises. The scene that greeted me at the passport check was something along those lines however. Only One fast lane desk was open and One desk for connecting passengers to all T2 zones. I joined the back of a long queue and watched the minuets tick by. The line seemed to move at different speeds but I made it through with about 40mins in hand. Liquids and laptop out for a scan next before entering the F section of T2 and then on to gate 31 with time to grab a sandwich before boarding.

= Aah ... CDG. Guess how I feel about it  .

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
The guy in question was sat in front of me. Seems that his hold bag had tried to make an escape while being driven out to the aircraft. Turns out that it was badly damaged as it was dragged along after falling. He seemed quite calm and was informed that KL will replace the damaged item once in AMS. A nice idea to tell him I thought as to prevent him thinking his bag had been broken into once it appears on the carousel.

= Great stuff for them to alert this. Classy ... and a tad surprising that it happened at MAD. AENA staff are not usually known to be this pro-active.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Onto the food and drink then. I was interested to see how the service compared to partner AF here.
Nice to see a good sized sandwich, nicely presented in a colourful carton with two different fillings, beef and an egg mayonnaise. Quite tasty. A good selection of drinks were offered and I went with Sprite.

= KL catering looks awesome!

Thanks again for writing.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6346 times:

Wow a very detailed TR with loads of pic, perfect for me. You had probably one of the most best timed trips (EVER) with catching 1 no... but 2 retro jets. And don't forget that A318 which was swapped for the normal A319. Congrats to you on reaching the big 50! Look forward to reading more TR's from you in the future.   


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User currently offlineWhereToNext From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 6288 times:

Lee,

Fantastic Trip Report! I'm always drawn to reports that include MAD in their itinerary as I once lived in Madrid and Barajas was my launching pad to the rest of Europe! Thanks again!

-Matt
WhereToNext



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User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6121 times:

Happy to see further response.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 8):
congrats, 2x retro an A318, nice score!

You know it. Very happy to see these.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 8):
Did you notice BXA has 'white' winglets without the KLM logo. Maybe they borrowed a pair from HV for some reason...

Yes I did notice the lack of the KLM logo. Im sure that some kind of pattern was on the outside of the winglet but can't recall for sure? I will check the photos on here. Maybe in keeping with the retro livery?

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 9):
Which music do you play on your Ipod? can not read

Hi esatafspot. On the picture shown I was listening to a podcast from The Airplane Geek. Quite good to pass an hour or so. Most aviation genres are covered but im really only for commercial with some interest in GA.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 9):
more with AF, than KLM, the red wine is very often ice-cold, which is brutal for wine loving airline's country

A good point indeed.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 9):
I was quiet surprised you got AF retro jet in CDG-MAD, as sometimes seen at your home airport MAN:

Hey, nice to see this in Manchester. Thanks for sharing the photo.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 9):
Anyway glad to see you back and thanks for posting this enjoyable TR

Thanks for the reply.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 10):
've really enjoyed your other reports so this one was also great to read as well. Thanks for posting this.

You're welcome. Always nice to share these trips with you guys and to read the other great reports on here.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 10):
How lucky were you - getting two retrojets

Maybe I should have played the lottery that weekend, my luck was in.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 10):
I am off to MAD in a couple of weeks on a BA EM190 out of LCY. Can't wait for that.

Ah, cool. Nice to hear that. Look forward to a report from you. I need to get into LCY to sample that steep approach.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 10):
are you travelling anywhere again soon??

Supposed to be in 5weeks but that plan has fallen through due to a canx on the first flight. Something else will replace this though.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 11):
Thanks for the comparison of the two airlines in the AF/KL family. Always recognize how time consuming these reports are to write, so big thank you!

Thank you. Always nice to compile the report. A good way to keep a memory of the trips also on here.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 11):
= Great stuff for them to alert this. Classy ... and a tad surprising that it happened at MAD. AENA staff are not usually known to be this pro-active.

I think the guy was quite happy with the way the situation was handled. A nice move for sure.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 11):
KL catering looks awesome!

Nice to see someone keeping up the standards in the slowly eroding Euro service.

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 12):
Congrats to you on reaching the big 50! Look forward to reading more TR's from you in the future.

Thank you LGWflyer. No stopping now eh? Best get to work on the next 50  
Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 13):
Fantastic Trip Report! I'm always drawn to reports that include MAD in their itinerary as I once lived in Madrid and Barajas was my launching pad to the rest of Europe! Thanks again!

Glad this report offered some meaning to you. Nice to see something of your old "launchpad". Thanks for your reply WhereToNext.


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6084 times:

Not a problem!    Haha yep you better get some more flights arranged, and before you know it the big 100 will arrive!         


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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5760 times:

Hi Lee,

How lucky were you with this trip, getting the A318 and 3 retrojets?! That's what I call success. Although your transfer at CDG didn't sound like fun, imagine how stressful it must be for inexperienced travellers. I've only done 4 legs on AF, but wouldn't have any hesitations in using them again.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
At security the line up was really slow moving as well and some 30 minutes passed before I was stripping off to pass the metal detector

Wow, I must have been lucky last time, was through in a couple of minutes.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
quite an overcast day in Manchester so I was looking forward to climbing out of the murk and into the sunshine.

Murk & Manchester are two words that always seem to fit into the same sentence!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
During the latter stages of the approach I noticed someone shining a laser pointer at out plane from the ground. I hear this is becoming something of a problem lately and was quite shocked at its powerful effect even at around 5000ft.

That's scary to hear. What kind of idiots do things that that?

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Hey, I sold my car and now cycle 14 miles per day to work and back.

Very impressive!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5682 times:

Hiya H, thanks for the reply.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
How lucky were you with this trip, getting the A318 and 3 retrojets?!

Just the 2 retros but im on a look out for the 3rd now. Im feeling lucky in that department. The LH would be a nice one to score.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
Wow, I must have been lucky last time, was through in a couple of minutes.

Yea, my experience has been that of a quick passage at T3 but for some reason it was slow slow slow on that day.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
Murk & Manchester are two words that always seem to fit into the same sentence!

Without doubt. Im just on the other side of the Pennine hills and its either sunny here with rain in Manchester or vise-versa.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
That's scary to hear. What kind of idiots do things that that?

Complete idiots. There was been a big problem with this late last year around the approach into Leeds/Bradford. If only these morons knew the implications of their actions.....

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
Very impressive!

Not too bad now Winter is out of the way.


Cheers, Lee.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5562 times:

Hi Lee,

great report with high-quality pictures, enjoyed reading a lot. It's amazing that you got two retro jets during that short trip - you were really lucky!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
Onto the food and drink then. I was interested to see how the service compared to partner AF here.

Interestingly, AF's catering on European routes is quite poor, but great on long-haul routes. KLM is better on European routes, but cannot match AF's long-haul offerings.


PH



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5484 times:

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
Im sure that some kind of pattern was on the outside of the winglet but can't recall for sure?

BXA had the classic "KLM 1950's logo" on the winglets; surprising it's all-white now...



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5442 times:

Hi Lee,

very nice report with some great pictures. Of course congratulations for getting two retro jets in a row, this is definitely something.

I agree with you on AF, they are a nice airline. I suppose the wine is still free with them? Never been on KLM so can't compare for myself, but the catering indeed looked good. Well, the only problem with AF is CDG, as you have found out. This airport is truly a mess, had my share of missed connections and lost baggage there.


Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Thread starter):
One thing is for sure, the more of these trips I take, the more i'm loving this hobby.

Yes, I am feeling the same way   Short trips like that are somewhat crazy, but a lot of fun.

Thanks again for this report.
CaptainRed


User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

Thank you for the further comments. Much appreciated.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
great report with high-quality pictures, enjoyed reading a lot. It's amazing that you got two retro jets during that short trip - you were really lucky!

Yea, something I will be on the look out for a bit more now. A few LH segments soon so lets see if I can score again?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
Interestingly, AF's catering on European routes is quite poor, but great on long-haul routes. KLM is better on European routes, but cannot match AF's long-haul offerings.

I did wonder how the long haul offerings compared. Thanks for the info.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 19):
BXA had the classic "KLM 1950's logo" on the winglets; surprising it's all-white now...

As far I can see from the pictures on this site and what I can remember from the gate, the winglet does have some kind of logo on the winglet but only on the outward facing area.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 20):
very nice report with some great pictures. Of course congratulations for getting two retro jets in a row, this is definitely something.

Thank you.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 20):
I agree with you on AF, they are a nice airline. I suppose the wine is still free with them?

Indeed, the wine is still complimentary. I didn't notice if any spirits were available for free but a few people were getting a beer.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 20):
Well, the only problem with AF is CDG, as you have found out. This airport is truly a mess, had my share of missed connections and lost baggage there.

Yes, a lot of bad reports for CDG. Something to think about in future when a tight connection is offered through there.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 20):
Yes, I am feeling the same way   Short trips like that are somewhat crazy, but a lot of fun.

No better way to spend a couple of days. Quite relaxing when things run as planned and connection times are ample.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 20):
Thanks again for this report.
CaptainRed

Hey, no problem.


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

Wow, you're pretty lucky to have got 2 retro-jets in a row - low chances of that happening. I've got a few of the Star Alliance special logo jets, and got the Ryanair Boeing colours plane once, but never made it onto a retrojet - jealous!


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