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Antwerp To Brussels On A Detour W/ CityJet & FlyBE  
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7577 times:
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Hi all & welcome to my next story!

I live in a suburban town in the vicinity of Antwerp, Belgium’s 2nd largest city. Antwerp is located app 40 km’s from Brussels, the capital. Like any itself respecting city, Antwerp has it’s own (little) airport. Besides being used for business flights and leisure flights, it also has 2 international scheduled services to London City (up to 5 daily) and Manchester (up to 2 daily), operated by CityJet on Fokker 50 aircraft. Pricing starts from € 69 all incl one way to LCY and € 59 all incl one way to MAN, so pretty good value if you ask me. In surplus, ANR airport is easily reachable by public transport from my home and it has short checkin times (25 mins beforehand are enough!). Having never flown from this airport before I built a trip which would take me from Antwerp to Brussels, not by highway, but on a detour by the ‘high way’.
The first leg was quickly decided: ANR-MAN on CityJet’s F50. A little search got me to FlyBE and I decided to book MAN-SOU on FlyBE’s E195 and SOU-BRU on FlyBE’s Q400/8. In all: 2 new carriers, 3 new aiports, 3 new aircraft types and as a consequence 3 new reg’s! If everything work’s out, I should be back in Brussels around 1pm, allowing me to go to work in the afternoon.
So let’s see how it all went:

Antwerp (ANR)-Manchester (MAN)-Southampton (SOU)-Brussels (BRU)


I got up at 5.40am to catch the 6.09am bus to ANR. It was still dark and after a 15 min ride I found myself in front of the terminal building of ANR airport. Not much to see actually, it was still dark so that did not help either. 

Terminal building


Apron views are not possible outside but I managed to squeeze my camera in between a fence


The check-in area seen from outside


A view on the main hall and the exit from arrivals & bagage claim


As I had checked in online the day before I immediately went through security and border control, which was a breeze. The FIDS draw my attention with the word ‘delay’ on it, lucky for me it was the 7am flight to LCY which was affected… I got myself a seat in the holding area next to the window and with a view on the apron.

A view on the apron with 2 F’50’s on stand


10 mins before the scheduled departure time the gate agents turned up and boarding commenced right away. As I walked up to the aircraft on the way I counted 4 CityJet F50’s on stand.

Our plane, bound for MAN


Boarding was completed in minutes, very impressive.

Flight: AF5240 (operated by CityJet)
Aircraft: F50
Reg: OO-VLI (named ‘City of Eindhoven’)
Seat: 4a
STD-STA (flighttime): 07h20-07h55 (1h35)


The load appeared OK, some 60% and mainly business travellers. Once in my seat, I found it to be very narrow. Lucky for me, I had 2 seats for myself so extra room to stretch out. One annoying thing was the low positioning of the windows, I had to bend over for a proper look and the proximity of the seat in front made my head toch it. So not very comfortable.And the person in front reclining his seat did not make things easier… Next time I choose the bulkhead 3c/d, they looked better to look outside.

Initial view from seat 4a


After a welcome from the cockpit and the engines were switched on and the giant propeller blades started to make revs. At 7.20am we taxied out to runway 29 for takeoff.

Taxiing out


-


We taxied half on the taxiway and entered the runway in it’s half and backtracked all the way to the departing point.

Turning around


Rolling


Liftoff with apron view


‘Antwerpse ring’ motorway


We climbed quickly into and above the murkiness. That was one bad thing about today, the weather was not good…

Ski slopes above Belgium 


After a while, the attendants came round with food and drink which is complimentary on CityJet, I chose a smoked turkey sandwich and 2 cups of lemon tea. After that I popped in my custom made earplugs (I always do when I fly) and had a look at the inflight magazine which was too business orientated for my liking. After 1h20 of flying the pilot announced ‘landing in 10 minutes’ and the cabin was prepared for arrival into MAN.

Weather clearing up a bit


Landing gear popping out


On short finals


Welcome to MAN!


We landed on runway 23R and quickly vacated the taxiway. After a long taxi we came to a halt on a stand at terminal 3.

Arriving on stand


After deboarding and some steps to the terminal building I found myself inside terminal 3.

One last shot, our F50 going back to ANR in a while


Next mission: on to the next flight without any further due! So off I went, following the transfer signs. I had to be in terminal 3 again so I expected a smooth and fast transfer since I already arrived at terminal 3. Boy, was I wrong! I will not bother you with the details but the experience was quite a hassle. And since I had a transfer time of only 55 mins I got quite nervous in the end! So just in time I arrived at gate 147, a packed area looking a bit like a dungeon with lots of other gates and lots of other passengers. Where am I, is this a modern airport?
Anyway, the flight was called for boarding 2 mins after my arrival there so my timing appeared perfect 
I walked outside to the ‘scheduled’ E195 but to my surprise there was a Q400/8 on stand.

The not-so-expected-but-nevertheless-welcome Q400/8.


Hmm, hopefully not twice the Q400/8 then today. I was the first to board and asked the jolly attendant about the equipment change. She indeed said the flight was to be operated by the E195 but a last minute operational issue made for a change. Well nothing to do about that… Since the door was open I asked for a cockpit photo after the flight. The pilot overhearing our conversation kindly invited me in and told me that I could stay there until boarding was complete. Great! After the photo was taken and some chit chat I thanked them for their time and went to my seat. Seat comfort was very good, legroom was nice and the overall cramped feeling I had in the F50 was not present here. Well done FlyBE & Q400. The load was about 50%.

The office
Flight: BE862
Aircraft: Q400/8
Reg: ?
Seat: 5d
STD-STA (flighttime): 08h45-09h45 (1h00)


View from my seat, BA to LGW

-


The captain came on with some info about flight time and expectew weather conditions and at about 5 mins after SDT, the engines spooled into life and we left our parking position on the way for runway 23L.

Pushing back giving me a view on a company E195, well maybe some other time then?


Nice surprise, City Airlines to GOT


Grrr...  

Haven't seen this one before either, AirSouthwest Q300/8 to ?


The 2 FlyBE types waiting in for takeoff


Finally our turn


We rocketed off into the skies, the takeoff was really powerful. I never experienced that on a prop before.

Prop in action while climbing out of MAN


After a while we were above the clouds and as expected the weather was not the best: an all white blanket was spread out underneath us. The crew sprung into action for the BOB service while I just sat back and enjoyed the flight. After about 35 mins we started our descent towards SOU airport. It took a while before we broke through the clouds again and when we did I could see we were coming in from over sea and over Southampton's harbour.

Descending into SOU


-


-


After touchdown on runway 02 , we turned on the runway at about halfway and taxied into our stand.


They are waiting for us!


While walking to the terminal, another E195 came in associated with a lot of noise!


Arrival into SOU was painless, as wel as the transfer to the departures area again. What a contrast to my bad experience in MAN. It took me under 10 mins to get back to the departure area. SOU is a really small airport, mainly used by FlyBE. It is very relaxed and I liked it a lot. About 20 mins after my arrival at the gate, boarding was called for the flight to BRU. And guess what: we were directed to an E195 which made me very excited.

Flight: BE1845
Aircraft: E195
Reg: ?
Seat: 29d
STD-STA (flighttime): 10h50-13h00 (1h10)


Boarding via the rear stairs of course


...and all other passengers boarding via the front stairs of course...


I took my seat in 29D and was positively surprised about the overall comfort: wide enough slimline seats, good legroom and clean. That's how we like it don't we? Load factor was about 40%, so not very good but normally this service is performed by the Q400/8 so that would give a better load factor.

View outside, FlyBE all around


The captain did his welcome speech and we pushed back on schedule.

Pushing back, the Cobus has to wait of course


Going the wrong direction?


Apparently not, turning around on the threshold of runway 02


THAT is the right direction!


After a short takeoff roll we lifted into the overcast skies above SOU


Climbing out of SOU


Cabin view


Here again, skies were pitch white all the way into BRU


Mind the winglet  

After about 40 mins and a series of twists & turns we came on finals for BRU


Visibility improving!


And touchdown on time on 25L


Terminal B in the far distance


We taxied past the old satellite terminal to a remote stand


Nice looking ATR


Coming to a halt next to this nice neighbour


We disembarked through the front door, me getting off last I asked for a quick snap of the cockpit which was kindly granted by the captain again. Many thanks for that and a great end of this half day of flying.

The E195 office


Thanks for reading & feel free to comment!

(Sulta)Nils


In thrust we trust.
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User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7426 times:

Hi Nils.

Good to read your story and hear of you passing through my local airport of MAN. Its a shame you didn't find your time there a pleasurable one. My journeys either start or end there so I can't comment on the transfer procedures.

Interesting to note your flight from ANR with CityJet. The F50 is missing from my log so i might take some ideas from this.

In fact my next flight is with flyBe on the MAN-SOU route. The flight is scheduled to operate with a Dash-8 so lets see?

Glad you enjoyed the E-195. A nice aircraft in my books and I like the cabin colours flyBe use here.

Cheers, Lee.


User currently offlineBrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 624 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7319 times:

Hi Sultanils,

Cool little daytrip with a nice report.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Having never flown from this airport before I built a trip which would take me from Antwerp

I did the exact same thing at the end of August (report on this forum). ANR left me with the impression of a small, basic, slightly outdated yet efficient airport. It is however seriously constrained by its short runway and its urban location. I used the CityJet F50 service to LCY and found the aircraft reasonably comfortable, and the inflight service very good (granted, those low windows aren't exactly the most convenient).

I've flown on FlyBe's Q400's a couple of times and I think they do a good job connecting the UK's secondary airports with (often) cheap fares.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I should be back in Brussels around 1pm, allowing me to go to work in the afternoon

Now that's ambitious. Did you manage to go to work in the afternoon ?

Regards
BrusselsSouth


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7208 times:

Nice TR, Nils !!! Just too bad the weather sucked both in Belgium and the UK: no views till just before touchdown  

You could check your registrations on both your cockpit-photos: if you enlarge them on your PC, you might well see them: on the F50 it shows on the auto-pilot panel of the cockpit and the E195 is just behind the yoke: G-FBED  

Good to read you've enjoyed the F50: not many around Europe anymore, eversince KLM cityhopper withdrew them - I think Cityjet is the only one in Western-Europe now, operating passenger flights...

The E195 is a great aircraft !!! At KLM cityhopper, both the crew-, operational-staff and, above all, the passengers really do like the aircraft   You should try them once from AMS too...

Thanks a lot for sharing; the route was similar to the one I took in 1973, although that was on board OO-SCA from Deurne to Zaventem with an airtime of 12 minutes and flying at 2000 feet  



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7199 times:

Hi Nils,

nice report. VLM (Cityjet) is nice, agree on the comfort of F50's. The windows are positioned too low indeed, but for the short hops not a real problem. I wonder, do you have no pictures of the catering on this ANR-MAN flight? And, you say you choosed a turkey sandwich. Was there a choice actually, because that would be new to me.
Congrats to fly all 3 types that day at least, about the registration of your Q400 flight: why not zoom in on your original image to get a view on the registration, you should be able to read it off in that way.
ANR is not featured often in tripreports, this is maybe even the first time. I never used the airport myself, although it's so close to my country and I'm in Antwerp pretty regularly myself. Oh well, I've RTM also with a good amount of Cityjet/VLM/AF-KL flights 

Regards
Eric



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5138 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6908 times:

Hi, Nils,

what a good read and also a nice way to spend some hours in the air.
Congrats to that couple of new types and regs.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Pricing starts from € 69 all incl one way to LCY

Count me in exactly that way in July!.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):

Anyway, the flight was called for boarding 2 mins after my arrival there so my timing appeared perfect 

Mate, that can be going wrong, so you´re lucky this time, hopefully also in the future and hopefully also me in such situations.
 

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6844 times:

A good read!   Really need to get on a F70.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Haven't seen this one before either, AirSouthwest Q300/8 to ?

PLH or NQY via BRS.


User currently offlineSabenaA320 From Belgium, joined Nov 1999, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6570 times:

Hey

Nice TR. My first flightexperience was from ANR when BA flew to LGW.

Quote:
I should be back in Brussels around 1pm, allowing me to go to work in the afternoon.

So, very tight connections (stressy   )

Quote:
Nice looking ATR

I've seen these colours in another TR, flying for KF.

Greetings


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1894 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

Thanks for the Cityjet report! I sort of miss the old VLM paint job/livery though!

Just curious - Does Cityjet maintain the old VLM service using real cup and glasses for drinks? Does it still offer those nice chocolates after the snack service?

Also is it difficult to reach Antwerp Airport from Brussels Airport or central station?

Thanks again!
Carfield


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6230 times:
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Hi all & thanks for your comments,

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 1):
I can't comment on the transfer procedures

Well, to my regret I have to say that the experience indeed wasn't the best, however I have vagie plans to come back to MAN and hopefully history will not reapeat itselt then.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 1):
The flight is scheduled to operate with a Dash-8

I was pleasantly surprised with FlyBE as a whole: the /8 and the E195 as well as te crews.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 2):
Cool little daytrip with a nice report

Thanks!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 2):
ANR left me with the impression of a small, basic, slightly outdated yet efficient airport.

Exactly my opinion, but I found the experience most enjoyable.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 2):
Did you manage to go to work in the afternoon

Yes I did  
Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
Nice TR, Nils

Thank you!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
You could check your registrations on both your cockpit-photos

I forgot but yes indeed they can be found there!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
You should try them once from AMS too...

AMS is definitely on my ' to do' list! Just wait and see...

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
I took in 1973

Now that's some time ago... No report on that one?

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
nice report

Thanks!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
I wonder, do you have no pictures of the catering on this ANR-MAN flight

No sorry I haven't, but is was very basic... And there was a choice between a cheese of smoked turkey sandwich.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
ANR is not featured often in tripreports, this is maybe even the first time

Acutally I think it is the second: fellow a-netter BrusselsSouth has also made a report featuring ANR!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
You could check your registrations on both your cockpit-photos
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
Congrats to that couple of new types and regs
Thank Markus.
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
Count me in exactly that way in July!.

Well I am very curious about your experience then. If you have some time, feel free to drop me a private message it you fancy a small a-net meet (schedule permitting of course  )

Quoting SabenaA320 (Reply 7):
Nice TR

Thank you very much.

Quoting SabenaA320 (Reply 7):
My first flightexperience was from ANR when BA flew to LGW

Wow in what year was that? What aircraft was used?

Quoting Carfield (Reply 8):
Thanks for the Cityjet report

Thank you Carfield.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 8):
Does Cityjet maintain the old VLM service using real cup and glasses for drinks?

Nope, they use paper cups.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 8):
Does it still offer those nice chocolates after the snack service?

To my delight: YES  
Quoting Carfield (Reply 8):
Also is it difficult to reach Antwerp Airport from Brussels Airport or central station?

No that's not too difficult: at BRU you take the train to 'Brussels Centraal' station, change train to Antwerp, get off at 'Antwerp-Berchem' station and take bus 14 which drops you off right before the 'departures' door at ANR! It'll cost you about € 8 and app 1h30 of time (without delays).



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5830 times:

Thank you so much for this trip report! I just spent the last day and a half looking for a trip away in April, and just ended up booking a flight LCY-ANR-LCY. Cityjet looks good! Lucky you managed to get both your E-jet and Q400 on your FlyBe flights.


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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5553 times:
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Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 10):
Thank you so much for this trip report!

You are very welcome.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 10):
Lucky you managed to get both your E-jet and Q400

Yes I was very happy indeed although it did not look good in the beginning...



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

Hi Nils,

Thanks for this nice report about your quick morning trip. I flew VLM when it was still VLM and not CityJet and was very positively impressed by the service. Hope they will still keep some of the good service.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
aving never flown from this airport before I built a trip which would take me from Antwerp to Brussels, not by highway, but on a detour by the ‘high way’.

Well, flying domestically in Belgium is a bit difficult so I guess you have to resort to detours via another country  .

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I should be back in Brussels around 1pm, allowing me to go to work in the afternoon.

Hey, I like this idea! I have done some quick trips before going to the office, but never on this extent.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
As I walked up to the aircraft on the way I counted 4 CityJet F50’s on stand.

Quite impressive! Is that normal?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I had to be in terminal 3 again so I expected a smooth and fast transfer since I already arrived at terminal 3. Boy, was I wrong! I will not bother you with the details but the experience was quite a hassle.

Welcome to the UK - airport transfers there are rarely smooth, mainly thanks to the local regulations having everyone on intl to domestic connections having to be rescreened.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I walked outside to the ‘scheduled’ E195 but to my surprise there was a Q400/8 on stand.
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Pushing back giving me a view on a company E195, well maybe some other time then?
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
And guess what: we were directed to an E195 which made me very excited.

Hey, that's nice! Good thing that it worked out in the end and you got both types. I've yet to fly the E195 with any carrier, so maybe I should do something about that next...

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
It took a while before we broke through the clouds again and when we did I could see we were coming in from over sea and over Southampton's harbour.

The approach into 02 at SOU is very nice on a clear day. I posted a bunch of photos about such a case in a TR last September coming in from Guernsey.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
Good to read you've enjoyed the F50: not many around Europe anymore, eversince KLM cityhopper withdrew them - I think Cityjet is the only one in Western-Europe now, operating passenger flights...

Depends on your definition (geographical or political  ) of "Western Europe" - JZ and BT still have sizable fleets of the type!


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5474 times:
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Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 12):
Thanks for this nice report

You are welcome!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 12):
Quite impressive! Is that normal?

Well actually yes it is. CityJet has 3 flights scheduled to LCY before 10h00 (at 7h00, 7h50 and 9h35) and 1 flight to MAN (7h20). So that makes 4. The first return from LCY (the 7h00 flight) arrives at 10h35 so that explains why I counted 4 F50's on the apron.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 12):
I posted a bunch of photos about such a case in a TR last September coming in from Guernsey

I indeed saw those, so that's how it looks like on a nice day  



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineDanTaylor2006 From UK - England, joined Feb 2006, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5293 times:

A very enjoyable read   I really liked your photos too. Almost inspires me to try having a brief visit to the cockpit on my next flights this weekend!

Glad you got (and liked) the BE E95! The E jets are my favourite regional aircraft, hands down. Even with a (relatively) low cost airline like Flybe, the seat pitch is excellent! I'm looking forward to my next trip in one on Friday, with BA!

The F50 has always intrigued me (and I must one day travel on one) but the windows don't sound too good, I have problems enough (being tall) with 737s.

Again, thanks for posting!

Dan.



Flown: A319-21, A346, A380, B733-4, B738, B744, B752, B762-4, B77W, CR2, CR9, DH4, E190-95, F70-100, MD-11, MD-88, MD-90
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1661 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5265 times:
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Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 14):
A very enjoyable read

Thanks!

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 14):
a brief visit to the cockpit

Well I always try to get off last and ask, sometimes it's 'yes', sometimes it's 'no'...

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 14):
my next trip in one on Friday, with BA

Well, enjoy the ride, the E195 indeed is a nice plane to fly in (as passenger  )



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