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Africa Calling: Kenya Airways Vs Ethiopian BKK-HKG  
User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Posted (3 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 23703 times:



Jambo!
Selam!

Greetings to you in Swahili and Amharic respectively. After years of reading silently all the wonderful trip reports and being inspired by so many, it’s only a matter of time before one could falter in resisting to contribute his own trip report to this amazing repository of flight memories.

How it began...
As a fan of 5th freedom flights (aren’t we all?), and having been inspired by Ronerone’s beautifully documented report on Kenya Airways on the Bangkok-Hong Kong leg of the flight originating in Nairobi, I was intrigued to flying this amazing exotic airline on the same sector as well. When I found out that KQ was upgrading its usual B763 equipment to a B772 for a limited period at the end of 2010, I just knew I had to grab this opportunity. This will form the first portion of my report.

The second portion is dedicated to Ethiopian Airlines on the same route. After a most interesting flight experience with Kenya Airways, temptation overwhelmed me and I set a goal to fly Ethiopian as well, another intriguing airline from the African continent. I saved up for this dream journey to give myself a treat during my summer vacation but my Mom decided to sponsor my trip as a birthday present!!! Thanks so much Mom!

With that, this is my first Trip Report and I’d like to bring you onboard my journeys with Kenya Airways and Ethiopian Airlines on their 5th freedom flights between Bangkok and Hong Kong (I’ll only review one sector for a more balanced comparison and though I flew return sectors, I deliberately chose the daylight sector BKK-HKG since I took more pictures).
This is my Africa Calling.

Background on Kenya Airways
Kenya Airways (KQ/KQA) is the national airline of the Republic of Kenya, a magical land of safari and big game. This East African nation, a previous British colony, has a population of 40million and boasts some of the world’s best game reserves, attracting tourists who flock to see the annual wildebeest migration from June to September. Kenya Airways, a member of Skyteam, operates a fleet of B772s and B767s to 50 international destinations. Kenya Airways inaugurated its flights to Bangkok and Hong Kong in September 2003. From its hub in Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta International Airport, Kenya Airways currently flies to Hong Kong and Guangzhou via Bangkok.

Background on Ethiopian Airlines
Ethiopian Airlines (ET/ETH) is the flag carrier of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia – Land of Timeless Appeal. Disputably the cradle of mankind, Ethiopia is a landlocked country located in the Horn of Africa and traces its roots all the way to 2nd century B.C. Its population currently stands at 85.2million, Africa’s second largest. From its hub in Addis Ababa Bole International Airport, Ethiopian Airlines operates the B777LR, B767 and B757 on its longhaul destinations and flies to 60 international destinations. Ethiopian Airlines commenced its Hong Kong flights on January 1, 2002 and currently, Ethiopian flies to Hong Kong and Guangzhou via Bangkok.


Calling of Africa Part 1: A Ride on the Kenya Airways B777 Orient Express


My Kenya Airways journey began with a quick train ride to Suvarnabhumi Airport on the Airport Train after breakfast. Upon arrival, I confirmed my flight check-in row on the flight display board before proceeding onwards for check-in at check-in row W, all the way to the end of the departure hall.





When I arrived just before noon, the check-in counters were already opened but there were no passengers checking in. The check-in agent waved me over so I headed to his counter.
"Can I have a window seat? " I asked.
"I will check for you, " he replied.
"Is the flight full? " (Curiosity got hold of me).
"No, not today, " he replied. Cool.



The check-in staff appeared to be new and there’s this pretty lady guiding him along.
Looking at my e-ticket, the lady asked, "Mister, are you coming back tonight?"
"Yes, I want to try Kenya Airways!" came my reply. I think they found that amusing.
They gave me a ‘KQ’ sticker to stick on my shirt and also tagged my handcarry after weighing it.
"Enjoy your flight! See you later tonight!" the lady laughed.
"Yes, see you! "  
They were a nice bunch!

The very nice check-in staff!



My boarding pass



My KQ sticker



My approved cabin bag



With my boarding pass in my hand, butterflies just multiplied in my tummy as I excitedly anticipated the fulfilment of a journey I had dreamt of! I’m flying with Kenya Airways!
Onward I went, to the immigration point.

Looks like a shrine in the middle of the departure hall





Passing through Immigration I caught a few random photos before heading to the gate to check out the African beauty that will take me to Hong Kong.

Funny to look up and see people scrubbing the roof







Gorgeous Emirates A380 preparing for a hop to Hong Kong as well



A cool IranAir B747SP



Ethiopian arriving from Addis Ababa (never imagined I’d fly it someday)



And finally my gate, G5



I made it just in time at the gate to see the majestic B777-200ER pulling into the gate. Just a sidenote, to announce the upgrade in equipment from the usual B767, Kenya Airways had marketed it on their website as the "Kenya Airways B777 Orient Express". Kewl tagline, I’d say.

My KQ B777 Orient Express, Registration: 5Y-KQT



I spied at one corner sat the new set of crew waiting to board the aircraft. I just sat there and lazed around, catching glimpses at the arriving passengers disembarking from their long trip from Nairobi. It seems like the majority were African traders on their business trips to procure consumer goods for resale back in Africa, as well as a large group of elderly Japanese tourists probably returning from their safari trip.

1.15pm – the crew boarded.



Very empty departure gate



I counted just 15 (or less) passengers boarding the aircraft in Bangkok. It didn’t take long before the announcement was made for all passengers to board.


They say that I'm a dreamer. But I'd only Dreamt Skyward.
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User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 23908 times:

The Flight


Flight: KQ860
Route: Bangkok to Hong Kong
Departure: 14:00 (scheduled)/14:21 (actual)
Arrival: 17:55 (scheduled)/17:39 (actual)
Aircraft: B777-2U8/ER
Registration: 5Y-KQT




At 1.40pm, I finally settled into my seat. But to get to my seat was a funny story actually. After boarding the aircraft, I noticed the transiting passengers from Nairobi were already onboard. I walked to my seat only to find an African man snoring (very loudly I must emphasize) in my seat. Not wanting to give up my window seat, I looked around for any crew in sight. There were none. So I headed to the galley to find one.

I waved to a crew (She looked Chinese so I thought she was from Hong Kong, it turned out she’s from Thailand) and told her, "There’s a man sleeping in my seat."
"What is your seat number?"
I gave her my boarding pass and we walked to my assigned seat.
She shook the man, "Sir, you have to go back to your seat now."
Awoken from deep slumber, the man got up groggily and left. The stewardess (let’s call her Mandy) then gave me a fresh new blanket and pillow.
"Thank you" I said. She smiled.
It was quite a wait before take-off. Let’s explore the seat.

Cool PTV



Entertainment controls



Decent legroom



Cool engine view from my seat (Just loved that red colour!)



Cabin view from my seat



A snap of the cabin before take-off



Whilst waiting for pushback, it started to rain. At first it was quite heavy. Then it got smaller but as we were taxiing for take-off, it grew into a full-fledged thunderstorm! I was feeling quite apprehensive actually, having read tales of aircraft skidding under rainy conditions. But I felt a little better though when I saw a much smaller Jin Air B738 (probably heading to Seoul) gliding safely into the air before us.

Taxiing pass the plane of mystery: El Al Israel Airlines



Rain, rain go away!



We soon took off (the thunderstorm had subsided alittle) and I found myself soaring above the dreary weather with Kenya Airways!

Much better weather up in the air



Checking out the entertainment system





Nice!



At about 2.30pm, the seatbelt signs were switched off and a Thai steward (let’s call him Rangsan) came with the hot towels.

Rangsan and Mandy distributing the hot towels



Soon the meals were served.



Rangsan asked, "Would you like the beef or the fish?"
"Beef." It was a no-brainer decision for the carnivorous me. My preferred meal choices are beef, lamb, pork, fish or chicken and ugh, pasta, in that order.

My happy meal. I love the stylish animal motifs KQ uses on everything!



Stewed beef with egg-fried rice





I loved the raspberry cheesecake!



Mandy followed with the drinks.



She asked in Mandarin, "Ni yao he shen me ying liao? (What would you like to drink)?"
"Excuse me?" I have to admit my command of Mandarin isn’t too good (an understatement, it’s atrocious actually!).
Mandy repeated, "Ni yao he shen me ying liao?"
"Orange juice," came my reply in English. (I haven’t a clue what’s orange juice in Mandarin!)
As Mandy served me my OJ, "Xie xie! (Thank you!)" came my reply (at least that I know).

After distributing the meals, the crew came along to offer coffee and tea.

"Coffee... coffee..."



Marini (not her real name) offering tea



After the meal (it was really filling though the vegetables were a tad overcooked), I took the opportunity to explore the aircraft. The flight was quite empty and the passengers were quite scattered. Aside from African businesspeople, there were a number of mainland Chinese people returning home (probably employees of Chinese firms which are making lucrative infrastructural investments all over Africa).

Front economy cabin post-meal service



Rear economy cabin



Some warnings in the lavatory in English and Swahili



Passing by three crew in the rear galley, eagerly chatting as they prepared for the duty free sales, I asked them "Can I have a photo?"
The lady who was typing something into this weird handheld device, laughed and said "Would you pay me?"
I just grinned sheepishly and she laughed "just kidding."
They seemed shy to look at the camera so I just snapped a few shots of them chatting then I thanked them, and the trio smiled as I excused myself to go back to my seat.

The nice friendly lady and her weird device



That’s Marini on the left doing some catching up with her gal friends



Rangsan distributed the immigration cards and Marini walked around for the duty-free sales.

Are we there yet?



Ice particles on the window



Plonking down on my comfortable seat, I can’t help but smile. I’m sure all of us have something that would make us really happy and I was living mine! A row behind me sat two Asian-Americans and they were eagerly discussing their travel plans and suddenly, one asked the other, "Do you know what are the big five?" The discussion that ensued took quite a while.   



Soon, Marini made the announcement for landing. Boy, she’s got this really lovely and saccharine voice. I’ve always enjoyed listening to inflight announcements but this one was really enjoyable.
Soon the blankets were collected and the crew walked about to check on passengers.

Rangsan and Mandy collecting blankets



There was this guy seated across from me, who knocked-out immediately after take-off, only waking up for his meal before going back to dreamland. Gentle Marini woke him gently.
"Excuse me, we are landing, please sit up and put on your seatbelt."

The guy didn’t listen. So along came this stewardess-of-size, who just stood there, staring and not saying anything. The guy finally got the message and obediently put on his seatbelt. It was quite funny from an observer’s point of view.

Don’t mess with this lady!



Approaching HKG







Beautiful Air Canada livery



We soon landed in Hong Kong and we parked at Gate 41 at 5.47pm.

No luggage but I took a shot for good measure



Hong Kong International Airport



Here ends my amazing eye-opening flight with Kenya Airways. I was feeling really good as I stepped out of the plane.
I had fulfilled my dream of flying with the Pride of Africa.


Next: My flight journey with Ethiopian Airlines.



They say that I'm a dreamer. But I'd only Dreamt Skyward.
User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 23867 times:

Now, onward with my Ethiopian Airlines report.

Calling of Africa Part 2: Soaring with The New Spirit of Africa, Ethiopian Airlines

Like my Kenya Airways flight, my Ethiopian journey started with a ride on the airport rail line to Suvarnabhumi Airport.
Upon arriving, I checked the board for the check-in counter for my flight, ET608.



Apparently, there will be two Ethiopian Airlines flights today, one is going to Guangzhou and the other is to Hong Kong, which is my flight. Confirming that it will be at check-in row U, I proceeded straight for check-in.





At the check-in, there were just three groups of passengers in front of me. All of us were going to Hong Kong today. There were three Economy counters opened, two for Hong Kong-bound passengers and one for the Guangzhou-bound ones.
Seeing the Hong Kong counters were not progressing, the nice lady at the Guangzhou counter waved me over.
"To Hong Kong?"
"Yes"
"You want window seat?" This lady definitely can read people’s minds.
"Yes," I was smiling.
Whilst the nice lady processed my details, at the corner of my eye, I glimpsed at the crew manifest for the Guangzhou flight on the table, apparently there’s eight cabin crew operating that flight. Hmmm... Wonder if that’s the same for mine.
She then handed me my boarding pass and passport.
"This is your window seat and gate, F5."
"You may go through immigration there," she pointed towards the immigration point and smiled. She’s very nice.

My boarding pass



Passing through immigration and to queue at the passport control was a nightmare that day. The queues were exceptionally long and I was quite pissed that a Chinese woman blatantly cut my queue, with her husband sheepishly following behind. She quickly cut to another queue and I decided to let it go.

I looked around and there were many excited Taiwanese tourists in the queue, probably flying on the KLM Royal Dutch Airlines B747-Combi flight to Taipei as well as Chinese passengers holding Emirates boarding passes, probably going to Hong Kong on the A380.

Finally it was my turn to have my passport stamped and I looked back, the evil queue-cutting woman was a good 10-15 people behind me in the next queue. I thought it was indeed retribution at its best.

Airside, Suvarnabhumi Airport



Not interested in shopping, I proceeded straight to the gates, to check out both the Ethiopian planes.

The Guangzhou-bound flight



ET606 to Guangzhou, registration: ET-ALH



I was on time to see my own plane arriving from Addis Ababa



My flight, ET608 to Hong Kong, registration: ET-ALP



A closer look, taken from the boarding area



Pushback for ET606. It amazes me to see two Ethiopian planes in one picture in BKK!



You get all sorts of strange airlines in BKK. S7 Airlines departing for somewhere in Siberia.



Soon the boarding call was made for all passengers to board and the passengers promptly got up and proceeded for boarding.
What happened at the aerobridge was quite amusing. There were two aerobridges at the gate and only the first one was used. But I guess the first passenger went down the wrong aerobridge and in typical herd behaviour, everyone else did as well. Quite a number of passengers had gone into the wrong aerobridge before one of the groundstaff came scrambling towards us and directed us to the right aerobridge. Some of the passengers were amused by the situation but others were quite angry about it.
There had been a hand-drawn sign on a standing whiteboard directing passengers but I guessed it was inadequate.

The wrong aerobridge (picture taken from my seat)



Down at the right aerobridge, a beautiful Ethiopian flight attendant stood at the door, "18A, this way."
I soon settled into my seat.



They say that I'm a dreamer. But I'd only Dreamt Skyward.
User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 23862 times:

The Flight

Flight: ET608
Route: Bangkok to Hong Kong
Departure: 14:15 (scheduled)/14:29 (actual)
Arrival: 18:15 (scheduled)/17:52 (actual)
Aircraft: B767-360/ER
Registration: ET-ALP


My seat



It was most peculiar as the position of my seat was just hauntingly similar to the one I had on Kenya Airways, even though this time I’m on the B767. From the cabin view to the window view, it just reminded me of my Kenya Airways flight. Oh well, great for comparison I guess.

Cabin view from my seat



View from my window



More than adequate legroom for me.



This aircraft is equipped with PTV too! Cool!



The entertainment control



Headsets were found in the seat. Newspapers were distributed by the crew.



Other seat contents



The route for ET608



I decided to empty my bladder before take-off.

Words in Amharic





The only sign in Mandarin
(interestingly, it is in traditional Chinese characters, used only in Hong Kong and Taiwan)



Unlike my KQ flight, the weather was great in Bangkok today and we soon made our way for take-off.
Another amusing incident occurred when the aircraft taxied itself onto the runway whilst the safety video was still in the midst of screening. It was quite funny as the plane sat on the runway, waiting for the safety video to end (and it was a good few minutes before it ended) before the pilot promptly fired up the engines and took off. Does this happen often?

Safety video demonstration



Just after take-off





The entertainment system was started up and I realised its very similar to Kenya Airways. Language options were English and French as well. I had been wondering what’s France has to do with Ethiopia and Kenya but I realised both KQ and ET probably included the language option to cater to the passengers from the francophone African countries to the west.



Direction from Addis Ababa



Soon, the meals were served.



"Sir, chicken or fish?" The nice lady asked.
"Fish" came my reply.
"Any drinks to go with it?" she asked as she looked around for the fish option.
"Orange juice."
"Ah... where is my fish..." The nice lady found it but not before accidentally dropping one chicken-option tray. Strangely, she only served the A/B rows. The rest of the rows were served by two younger Ethiopian girls on the next aisle.
Unlike KQ which has Thai and Mandarin speaking cabin crew, ET’s cabin crew are all Ethiopian and it was hard at times for the cabin crew to communicate with Chinese passengers. The lady serving my row had a hard time apprehending what a Chinese passenger a few rows in front was trying to say until he pointed. "Oh, pepsi." She finally got it.





My fish option



Unwrapped



It was delicious and I enjoyed it very much.



I found a fish scale in the fish though.



The salad was alright



I particularly loved the passionfruit cake though. It had little passionfruit seeds in it which made it really crunchy and it was such a treat! The whipped cream added a sweet touch!



The bun



I was glad to find the bun nicely wrapped up as I heard a rumour that in a particular well-renowned Asian airline, disgruntled cabin crew would roll the buns on the floor before serving to the nasty passengers they meet. Most amusingly, the buns are aptly listed as "roll and butter" in the airline’s menu.   At least I know for sure mine didn’t suffer a similar fate.

Now here’s something extra, cheese and crackers were served as well.



"Coffee please... Coffee please..." she said very politely.



I took the tea option.



My OJ



The meal serviced concluded far too quickly and the crew soon started collecting back the meal trays. Like most passengers, I held on to my cup of tea and handed over the tray. The crew came back to collect all the empty cups later.

Meal service was completed over Vietnam



Like my KQ flight, I decided to take a walk through the cabin.

Front economy cabin



Rear economy cabin



Just for comparison to see their reaction for a photo request, seeing the cabin crew at the rear galley resting, I decided to try asking them for a photo. One of them apologised and replied that it was against the company policy. I believed her as the cabin crew from the HKG-BKK sector had told me the same thing: that they couldn’t take photos in their uniform. But she graciously offered, "do you want me to take your picture?"

Who would decline a beautiful woman?



The front galley



Our flight path



Soon it was time for landing.



Collecting back the headsets









We soon landed in Hong Kong International Airport ahead of schedule.

Taxiing past the control tower





Passing by an assortment of aircraft



Parked at Gate 31, 6pm (next to China Airlines A343)





There were sniffer dogs greeting us at the entrance of the gate and every passenger had to go through a security interview, as per my Kenya Airways flight. They asked questions such as where I am going and how long I am staying in Hong Kong. My KQ flight had a similar security check as well but the guy merely checked my passport and boarding pass. I am curious as to if only flights from Africa are subject to the additional security checks.



Having had a taste of Kenya Airways and just disembarked from my Ethiopian Airlines flight, irony tickles me when I caught an eyeful of a third African airline, a South African Airways A343 smiling meekly at me from its remote stand. Oh well, save for another time!



The immigration point was packed as usual. There was an incident at the passport control when the passport control officer made a guy with Middle-Eastern features wait quite awhile because they had some trouble with his passport. The guy was extremely pissed and the immigration officer attempted to explain to him that his face in the passport photo was "too big" (for whatever reason). Not the most flattering comment. No wonder the angry passenger. Somehow they managed to sort it out in the end. *shrugs*

Collecting my luggage



Hong Kong International Airport



Here ends my dream journey with The New Spirit of Africa.



The Verdict
Between the two African neighbours with their own very distinct identities, I found both Kenya Airways and Ethiopian Airlines had offered a very competitive price and similar service standards (and not to mention very similar flight timings). The Bangkok-Hong Kong sector is extremely competitive with anything from an A320 to an A380, and from low-cost airlines to award-winning legacy carriers plying the route and I am glad that both carriers offer a competitive enough service product to fend off the other competition.

Between KQ and ET, I found their cabin layout and entertainment systems very similar (even though my KQ flight was a B772 and my ET one was a B763). KQ does have a consistent safari-theme throughout their cabin whilst ET leverages on gentle yellow and green hues.

Service-wise, each airline has its own merits. KQ offers a hot towel service and has Thai and Mandarin-speaking cabin crew to assist the Asian passengers but I found the ET cabin crew more warm. I also found the meal onboard ET more tasty than on KQ. But this can be subjective. The ET meal also comprises of an additional cheese and crackers. But other than those little service details, both carriers are quite similar in most other aspects (even the safety videos were strikingly similar!).

Sharing what a friend of mine (a Nigerian businessman with dealings in Hong Kong whom I met onboard one of my Kenya Airways flights) told me, he said that both Kenya Airways and Ethiopian Airlines are equally good, all he pray for is a safe journey. I can imagine the same sentiments for the many African businesspeople who fly the route to procure goods so that they can make a living in Africa.

I had an enjoyable trip onboard both Kenya Airways and Ethiopian Airlines, though on an individual preference basis, I relished my Ethiopian journey more. But regardless, I am very satisfied with both carriers and I hope they continue to do well for this sector.

This brings us to the end of my Africa Calling and I thank you very much for taking time to read my report. Any feedback is most welcome.

I just wish to shout-out to my friend akhmad who has always encouraged me and unfailingly inspired me with his excellent TRs. If you haven’t, please check out his latest TR on Emirates and India here, a beautifully written piece and an excellent insight into Incredible India.

If you’d like to see my full video reports on KQ860 and ET608 as well as the respective return flights, please feel free to check out my videos below (I’m actually more of a flight vlogger than a TR writer).

KQ860 Bangkok to Hong Kong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNPcsAOdvb0
KQ861 Hong Kong to Bangkok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ew9Aa5zz4
ET609 Hong Kong to Bangkok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJV4QerP-jU
ET608 Bangkok to Hong Kong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BkSyT9A_KM

As they say in Amharic and Swahili respectively,
Ameseginalehugn!
Asante!

Thank you once again for reading my first TR.
RvXKaz



They say that I'm a dreamer. But I'd only Dreamt Skyward.
User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 23630 times:

Hi RvXKaz,

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
After years of reading silently all the wonderful trip reports and being inspired by so many, it’s only a matter of time before one could falter in resisting to contribute his own trip report to this amazing repository of flight memories.

I'm very glad you have finally decided to write a trip report, I really enjoyed it. Nicely written with some great pictures. Thank you for putting a lot of effort in your report.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
As a fan of 5th freedom flights (aren’t we all?)

You bet. I have just flown on my first fifth freedom flight (MUC-MAN on SQ) and I am constantly looking for new options. Kuwait Airlines or LAN Chile might be next  
Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
Don’t mess with this lady!

Haha, hilarious story and the picture is just epic.

Thanks again for sharing,

Blaž



Visit Ljubljana
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1713 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 23484 times:
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Hello RvXKaz!

Man, what a debut ! Great story and comparison between these 2 main African carriers, great pictures also. Judging from your photos my preference goes out to KQ and their B772 but maybe I should do the same trip as you someday and I'll come to another conclusion, who knows?

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
my Mom decided to sponsor my trip as a birthday present!!!

Wow, what a nice gesture from your mom!

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
"Do you know what are the big five?"

You could've answered: A380, B744, A346, B773,...  

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
probably flying on the KLM Royal Dutch Airlines B747-Combi flight to Taipei

Is that a 5th freedom flight also?

Thanks and looking forward to your next report!

(Sulta)Nils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 23372 times:

Hi RvXKaz,

What an interesting trip report and a novel one in that it compares two separate airlines over the same route. Well written and with a good selection of photographs. Top marks for your first report!

I am pleased to see that KQ don't seek to cram people in ten abreast on their 777s and the cabin looks roomy enough on ET's 767. Impressive headphone for economy on ET compared to some other carriers too.

It was nice that check-in staff were so friendly and were able to wave you over from another crew or offer a window seat.

If you do get to fly with SA hopefully it will be all the way to CPT or JNB. South Africa is definitely worth a visit and I would look forward to reading your report should you go.

Best wishes,
Quokka


User currently offlineycp81 From Singapore, joined Jun 2006, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 23067 times:

Great report! Missed the 5th-freedom flights (especially LX) on SIN-BKK!


My past and future travels - http://www.ba97.com/ba97/calendar/report.asp?handle=ycp81
User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1063 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 23066 times:

Hey Gavin!

Been following your video reports all along and eagerly waiting for your first written TR. As I expected, this is a wonderful debut in airliners.net for you in the TR forums! Having just seen your video on ET HKG-BKK, I must say they seem like a very promising airline and I'm sure their fares are reasonable too.

Although the hard product like the IFE and seats cannot be compared to that of higher tier carriers like SQ, CX or EK, they seem quite good for a short flight. You seem to have visited Hong Kong for at least 3 times in a short period of time (on KQ, ET, PR). Do you have any dealings there or simply there for shopping and eating? I love Hong Kong as it is since it's a wonderful metropolis and transport there is convenient, albeit more expensive than in Singapore.

However, it's sad to see that KQ has decided to send their 777s on BKK-HKG as that is one of the few routes in Asia that we can fly the 767. I'd love to try this route one day!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Is that a 5th freedom flight also?

Yes it's a 5th freedom flight too.

Regards,
Daniel



One way I will fly around the world!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6807 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 23019 times:

Hi Gavin,

excellent review about these two African carriers, that's what I call a perfect start as an a.net trip reporter! Keep up the great work! And btw - nice to see you centered the pics. Looks familiar...  

Both carriers offer an impressive product on that route, but if I had the choice I guess I'd prefer KQ because of the 777. You were lucky to get one of the newer ET 763s with PTVs and 777-style bins.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
Oh well, save for another time!

I can only recommend to try SA!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 22830 times:

Hello Everyone,
Thank you for taking your time to read my SA Linhas Aereas">TR. I really appreciate it. Also, thanks for giving me the feedback!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 4):
I'm very glad you have finally decided to write a trip report, I really enjoyed it. Nicely written with some great pictures. Thank you for putting a lot of effort in your report.

Thank you very much Blaž!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 4):
You bet. I have just flown on my first fifth freedom flight (MUC-MAN on SQ) and I am constantly looking for new options. Kuwait Airlines or LAN Chile might be next

Oh yes, I read your SA Linhas Aereas">TR and I enjoyed it very much! When you fly with your next 5th freedom flight, do let me know! I'd love to read it. I'd recommend Ethiopian from Rome to Stockholm if you're keen   haha

Quoting SloAir (Reply 4):
Haha, hilarious story and the picture is just epic.

Hahaha I'm glad you found it funny. It was really funny 'cos she just stood there, totally not moving or saying anything and stared!

Thank you, Blaž once again for reading my SA Linhas Aereas">TR.


Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Hello RvXKaz!

Man, what a debut ! Great story and comparison between these 2 main African carriers, great pictures also. Judging from your photos my preference goes out to KQ and their B772 but maybe I should do the same trip as you someday and I'll come to another conclusion, who knows?

Thank you very much Nils. Yeah you should some day. I'd always think every single flight is unique in itself, even between the same airline, same flight number, but different days. I'm most glad you've drawn your own conclusion from my SA Linhas Aereas">TR but I'm still sticking with ET :p

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Wow, what a nice gesture from your mom!

She's the best!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
You could've answered: A380, B744, A346, B773,...

Hahaha! and Il-86? :P

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Is that a 5th freedom flight also?

Yes, as what Initious has kindly informed.

Thanks very much for reading Nils!


Quoting Quokka (Reply 6):
Hi RvXKaz,

What an interesting trip report and a novel one in that it compares two separate airlines over the same route. Well written and with a good selection of photographs. Top marks for your first report!

Thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Phew, now I finally had my first taste of how you guys conjure up those excellent TRs.

Quoting Quokka (Reply 6):
I am pleased to see that KQ don't seek to cram people in ten abreast on their 777s and the cabin looks roomy enough on ET's 767. Impressive headphone for economy on ET compared to some other carriers too.

I agree! I've found both their cabins really comfortable, the seats as well. I'd found the headphone really interesting too! But in case you're wondering, no, I didn't remove it as a souvenir :P

Quoting Quokka (Reply 6):
It was nice that check-in staff were so friendly and were able to wave you over from another crew or offer a window seat.

Yes, I'm glad to have encountered nice and friendly check-in staff in BKK. I've had terrible experiences with check-in staff from other airports but so far, check-in in BKK has always been fine.

Quoting Quokka (Reply 6):
If you do get to fly with SA hopefully it will be all the way to CPT or JNB. South Africa is definitely worth a visit and I would look forward to reading your report should you go.

I'd trust you on that. I've heard many fabulous tales about South Africa and its natural beauty. If I ever get there, yeah I'll write a SA Linhas Aereas">TR  

Thank you Quokka, for your kind feedback.


Quoting ycp81 (Reply 7):
Great report! Missed the 5th-freedom flights (especially LX) on SIN-BKK!

Hi ycp81, Thanks for reading. SIN-BKK was indeed a very popular route for 5th freedom once upon a time. I sorely miss the Euro airlines plying the route as well.


Quoting initious (Reply 8):
Hey Gavin!

Been following your video reports all along and eagerly waiting for your first written SA Linhas Aereas">TR. As I expected, this is a wonderful debut in airliners.net for you in the SA Linhas Aereas">TR forums! Having just seen your video on ET HKG-BKK, I must say they seem like a very promising airline and I'm sure their fares are reasonable too.

Thank you Daniel. Appreciate you reading. Good job on your latest one.


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Hi Gavin,

excellent review about these two African carriers, that's what I call a perfect start as an a.net trip reporter! Keep up the great work! And btw - nice to see you centered the pics. Looks familiar...

Hi PH, thank you for reading my SA Linhas Aereas">TR. I'd very much appreciate your kind words. Yes, I have an eye for aesthetics and having been reading TRs silently for so many years, I can say I draw my inspiration from the best influences.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Both carriers offer an impressive product on that route, but if I had the choice I guess I'd prefer KQ because of the 777. You were lucky to get one of the newer ET 763s with PTVs and 777-style bins.

Thank you very much for your insight! This is enlightening for me as to be frank, I don't have as much an eye for interior as for service details  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
I can only recommend to try SA!

Now, that's two A.nutters' recommendations. I guess it should be on my to-do list? :p

Thank you PH, for reading and your input. Greatly appreciated.



They say that I'm a dreamer. But I'd only Dreamt Skyward.
User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 778 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 22516 times:

hi Gavin,

First of all, as the rest of the community said you deserve a big thumbs up for your premiere...honestly it is so great to see you keep your promise by writing up this quality comparison and i was eagerly waiting for it but did not expected it so quickly. Moreover an emphasis on Kenya Airways actual flagship, could not have been a better treat... hats off.

BKK-HKG sector has been reported several times with KQ (in 767 though), and only a very few times with ET, so thank you for your "competitive" insight especially as the both journey seemed pretty problem-free.

As i said before it is wonderful to discover Asian cabin crew wearing a KQ uniform, it's unique and exciting too, as i'm not used to it.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
They gave me a %u2018KQ%u2019 sticker to stick on my shirt

is there any valid reason?

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
laughed and said "Would you pay me?

Oh dear, she just reminded you a huge classic in Africa, and her frank answer has nothing surprising even from a F/A

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
I had fulfilled my dream of flying with the Pride of Africa.

i love it, so beautiful!   (from a KQ fan)

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
I had been wondering what’s France has to do with Ethiopia and Kenya

have you noticed that in the Msafiri (KQ mag) a french section is available too? btw the reason you gave seems appropriate!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
I am curious as to if only flights from Africa

Maybe, it happened many times on KLM NBO-AMS sector.

Obviously, my choice would have gone for KQ, despite i share your opinion concerning the generous ET meal.

Once again, welcome aboard this community many thanks for this classic - but- original report.


East African Spotter (Léonard)

[Edited 2011-05-19 10:40:44]


Fly with Air Burundi, Air Tanzania, Air Uganda, Kenya Airways and Rwandair...Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki
User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 928 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 22510 times:

That was an excellent TR! The comparisons are very similar and I am quite surprised! But it is a good surprise. 5th Freedom Flights are really the best! I have taken a few like the EK A380 service from SYD-AKL and it is always fun to fly an exotic carrier on an exotic route for that carriers network!


Landing on every Continent almost on an annual basis!
User currently offlineELAL772 From Israel, joined Jun 2008, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22334 times:

Really good report - thanks for sharing!

The Ethiopian cabin looks really nice with the renewed seats and bins + the PTVs of course.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
Taxiing pass the plane of mystery: El Al Israel Airlines

Why is Elal mysterious to you?


User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1268 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22277 times:
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What an amazing report. One of those special first time reports that come in with a bang!!!! Very nicely documented, and I have to applaud you for the number of cabin crew pics you decided to take.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Unlike KQ which has Thai and Mandarin speaking cabin crew, ET’s cabin crew are all Ethiopian and it was hard at times for the cabin crew to communicate with Chinese passengers. The lady serving my row had a hard time apprehending what a Chinese passenger a few rows in front was trying to say until he pointed. "Oh, pepsi." She finally got it.

I wonder if the Thai and Mandarin crews operate only on the Far Eastern sectors? Interesting to see that KQ's national staff had no smiles on board, except in the galley lol, and it was the Thai and Mandarin crew that were acutally doing all the smiling on board. I've seen other pics on here too, where the KQ crew appear to be quite surly.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Just for comparison to see their reaction for a photo request, seeing the cabin crew at the rear galley resting, I decided to try asking them for a photo. One of them apologised and replied that it was against the company policy. I believed her as the cabin crew from the HKG-BKK sector had told me the same thing: that they couldn’t take photos in their uniform.

Such a shame about the ET cabin crew not being allowed to be photographed due to company policy. I think you would agree that the ET cabin crew had some very good looking FAs, as is evident from the lone FA who you managed to capture. It's also probably against company policy to hire non-Ethiopian nationals. Did you get a chance to see the Purser who dresses in the all white Ethiopian attire. I believe she welcomes you dressed that way.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
The guy didn’t listen. So along came this stewardess-of-size, who just stood there, staring and not saying anything. The guy finally got the message and obediently put on his seatbelt. It was quite funny from an observer’s point of view.

I guess every airline has their own dragon on board LOL....but then I guess when passengers do not adhere to regulations you need a tough hand to put them in place.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
Cool PTV
Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
My happy meal. I love the stylish animal motifs KQ uses on everything!
Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
Cool engine view from my seat (Just loved that red colour!)

Nothing like having a pride of lions welcome you on board!! And to top it all off you have those full red blooded engines thrown in for good measure

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
Beautiful Air Canada livery

It's pretty dull looking on a cloudy day. You need to see it on the T7s landing on a sunny summer afternoon. Gorgeous!!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Another amusing incident occurred when the aircraft taxied itself onto the runway whilst the safety video was still in the midst of screening. It was quite funny as the plane sat on the runway, waiting for the safety video to end (and it was a good few minutes before it ended) before the pilot promptly fired up the engines and took off. Does this happen often?

I guess it's better to finish the video completely in the event of an actual emergency taking place, in the interim before the video ends and the plane rotating off the runway midway lol

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
was glad to find the bun nicely wrapped up as I heard a rumour that in a particular well-renowned Asian airline, disgruntled cabin crew would roll the buns on the floor before serving to the nasty passengers they meet. Most amusingly, the buns are aptly listed as "roll and butter" in the airline’s menu.

Do share which airline this is, in order to refuse the bun rolls when offered.


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2471 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 21970 times:

Gwadäñña, Mwenzi RvXKaz,

Finally, this day has come! Being a country ambassador as you are, I hope to appropriately greet you this way.

Ever since you drew my attention to your marvelous video reports on YouTube, I was wondering why you were not joining us on A.net.

I am delighted when you have decided to make the move to join us this year. But did you know what makes me even happier? This excellent premiere about two charming African airlines. The Pride of Kenya Airways and the spirit of Ethiopian Airlines! I wished I could have made such impressive debut on A.net, a real blockbuster as you have presented! You have created a wonderful virtual experience along with your video reports what makes everyone like me eager to become a part of. Here, I just had to read every single word of this report of yours. What an inspiring journey I had. Thank you so much for enlightening me.

Now, it is time for some comments. I hope you do not mind them to be slightly long.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
As a fan of 5th freedom flights (aren’t we all?),

Yes, we are. You are blessed in Asia with so many choices of fifth freedom flights.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
having been inspired by Ronerone’s beautifully documented report on Kenya Airways on the Bangkok-Hong Kong leg of the flight originating in Nairobi

Everyone is inspired by Roni. Me included.



Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
but my Mom decided to sponsor my trip as a birthday present!!! Thanks so much Mom!

This is the best way to praise your loving Mom.


Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
to Hong Kong and Guangzhou via Bangkok.

KQ and ET reflect how big the businesses are between China and African continent.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
They gave me a ‘KQ’ sticker to stick on my shirt and also tagged my handcarry after weighing it.

What an exemplary check-in staff. How nice of you to make a picture as a tribute to them.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
Gorgeous Emirates A380 preparing for a hop to Hong Kong as well

I hope you will get on board of this beauty one day.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
Not wanting to give up my window seat, I looked around for any crew in sight. There were none. So I headed to the galley to find one.

Way to go! I would have done the same thing.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
Checking out the entertainment system

What a great idea of yours to show the display step by step.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
My preferred meal choices are beef, lamb, pork, fish or chicken and ugh, pasta, in that order.

Well, count me in, though I like them all almost equally.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
She asked in Mandarin, "Ni yao he shen me ying liao? (What would you like to drink)?"

At least you know how to write it down. I would have no idea at all, let alone speaking.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
Passing by three crew in the rear galley, eagerly chatting as they prepared for the duty free sales, I asked them "Can I have a photo?"
The lady who was typing something into this weird handheld device, laughed and said "Would you pay me?"
I just grinned sheepishly and she laughed "just kidding."

I just love such jolly crew members. They know how to break the ice.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
"Do you know what are the big five?"

Nils has answered the question, with the fifth being A345.



Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 1):
So along came this stewardess-of-size, who just stood there, staring and not saying anything. The guy finally got the message and obediently put on his seatbelt.

Her body language speaks volumes.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 2):
the evil queue-cutting woman was a good 10-15 people behind me in the next queue. I thought it was indeed retribution at its best.

What goes around, comes around!


Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
Who would decline a beautiful woman?

Especially when she turned out to be a talented photographer.



Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
a South African Airways A343 smiling meekly at me from its remote stand. Oh well, save for another time!

I have never been with SA myself, but I would recommend it.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 3):
I just wish to shout-out to my friend akhmad who has always encouraged me and unfailingly inspired me with his excellent TRs. If you haven’t, please check out his latest TR on Emirates and India here, a beautifully written piece and an excellent insight into Incredible India.

I hear you, RvXKaz. Thank you so much for your nice words and promoting my TR. That is very sweet of you.

RvXKaz, thanks again for sharing this exotic, inspiring, hilarious and beautifully written report. A truly gem of its own!

Asante, amesegenallo,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 21851 times:

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
hi Gavin,

First of all, as the rest of the community said you deserve a big thumbs up for your premiere...honestly it is so great to see you keep your promise by writing up this quality comparison and i was eagerly waiting for it but did not expected it so quickly. Moreover an emphasis on Kenya Airways actual flagship, could not have been a better treat... hats off.

Hi Léonard, thank you so much for reading this. Its very nice to hear compliments from the expert on African aviation here.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
BKK-HKG sector has been reported several times with KQ (in 767 though), and only a very few times with ET, so thank you for your "competitive" insight especially as the both journey seemed pretty problem-free.

You could read my mind, I never thought about it when I was writing the SA Linhas Aereas">TR but being unfamiliar with African carriers, before the flight I had been quite nervous if they may get cancelled, thus ruining my holiday plans. But thankfully, both KQ and ET have been really good to me.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
As i said before it is wonderful to discover Asian cabin crew wearing a KQ uniform, it's unique and exciting too, as i'm not used to it.

Ah, as what you mentioned. I didn't appreciate it at that point in time but I guess its not a common sight! Thanks for highlighting!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
is there any valid reason?

I am quite puzzled as well. The only reason I can think of is it identifies the KQ passengers in the terminal in case they don't make it to the gate on time? I'm really unsure, on my HKG-BKK sector, the passengers going to Nairobi were given some sort of identification tag as well, but not passengers going to Bangkok. hmmm...

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
Oh dear, she just reminded you a huge classic in Africa, and her frank answer has nothing surprising even from a F/A

Lol, yes! Having read so many of your TRs, I must say it wasn't surprising myself  
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
i love it, so beautiful! (from a KQ fan)

Thank you very much, Léonard.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
have you noticed that in the Msafiri (KQ mag) a french section is available too?

Oh! Yes I think I can recall on my flight but I totally forgot about it! You're right! I remembered at that point in time, I thought its because of French tourists who come to Kenya to enjoy the safari. Well, now I know better! Thanks for the reminder!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
Obviously, my choice would have gone for KQ, despite i share your opinion concerning the generous ET meal.

Hahaha! There's two votes for the Pride of Africa so far!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 11):
Once again, welcome aboard this community many thanks for this classic - but- original report.

Thank you so much, and thank you Léonard, once again for reading my SA Linhas Aereas">TR.

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 12):
That was an excellent SA Linhas Aereas">TR! The comparisons are very similar and I am quite surprised! But it is a good surprise. 5th Freedom Flights are really the best! I have taken a few like the EK A380 service from SYD-AKL and it is always fun to fly an exotic carrier on an exotic route for that carriers network!

Hi globalflyer, I was most surprised as well about the similarities! And yes, its good in many positive ways. I'm glad you share my sentiments about 5th freedom flights. I totally agree with you, we always appreciate a novel flying experience. I guess that's what make a.nutters different from mainstream travellers, isn't it. Thank you very much for reading my SA Linhas Aereas">TR and your kind comments.

Quoting ELAL772 (Reply 13):
The Ethiopian cabin looks really nice with the renewed seats and bins + the PTVs of course.

Hi ELAL772, yes, I was delighted to find PTVs in every seat! It was a very nice surprise. I'm not sure how many of ET's fleet has PTVs but I managed to score for both my sectors. I got lucky! And definately, having PTV helped for my comparisons  
Quoting ELAL772 (Reply 13):
Why is Elal mysterious to you?

I've always been intrigued by El-Al since I read about its stringent security checks on passengers, passenger profiling, air marshalls (though many carriers have them these days), anti-missile technology, no-flying on certain days of the Jewish calender but my own first encounter with it just heightened my curiosity for it as I was photographing it in BKK more than 5 years ago (i love the simple but beautiful livery), an Israel security personnel told me to delete my pictures! Since then, it's always been a plane of mystery to me. Thank you for reading my SA Linhas Aereas">TR, ELAL772 and your kind comments.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
What an amazing report. One of those special first time reports that come in with a bang!!!! Very nicely documented, and I have to applaud you for the number of cabin crew pics you decided to take.

Thank you so much flightsimsboy! Really appreciate it. I did get some stares from the passengers as well as the crew but thankfully most were blissfully ignorant so it was quite smooth for me.  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
I wonder if the Thai and Mandarin crews operate only on the Far Eastern sectors? Interesting to see that KQ's national staff had no smiles on board, except in the galley lol, and it was the Thai and Mandarin crew that were acutally doing all the smiling on board. I've seen other pics on here too, where the KQ crew appear to be quite surly.

I'm really no expert but I would think so, regarding the deployment of Thai/Mandarin crew. Judging from previous TRs, they seem to be always present on BKK-HKG sectors and my flight had 3 of them.
LoL... about your other comment, coming from nanny state Singapore, I don't quite dare comment on their smiles (or lack of) but that's really one of the reasons why I felt ET won over KQ, though both ET and KQ cabin crew were very polite.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
Such a shame about the ET cabin crew not being allowed to be photographed due to company policy. I think you would agree that the ET cabin crew had some very good looking FAs, as is evident from the lone FA who you managed to capture. It's also probably against company policy to hire non-Ethiopian nationals. Did you get a chance to see the Purser who dresses in the all white Ethiopian attire. I believe she welcomes you dressed that way.

I agree with you about the beautiful FAs on ET. I could attest to that but to clarify, no, I didn't take that into consideration for my final preference on ET.   I didn't know about that policy but thanks for sharing. I didn't manage to catch a glimpse of her! There was a more senior man, with a 'lead cabin crew' on his nametag but I'm not sure if he's the one. He probably wouldn't fit into the all-white traditional garb anyway. :P Would have loved to see the crew in that.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
I guess every airline has their own dragon on board LOL....but then I guess when passengers do not adhere to regulations you need a tough hand to put them in place.

Oh yes, were you the one who wrote the SA Linhas Aereas">TR on the dragon on Qatar Airways (or is it EK? I hope I got the carrier right!) LoL. I didn't had my account then, but I loved the way you described her as being a dragon! Surprisingly, most of these dragons are female  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
Nothing like having a pride of lions welcome you on board!! And to top it all off you have those full red blooded engines thrown in for good measure

Yes you're right! You reminded me of how I loved looking at the huge red engine when I was onboard!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
I guess it's better to finish the video completely in the event of an actual emergency taking place, in the interim before the video ends and the plane rotating off the runway midway lol

LOL! that could have been an option though not on my flight, please.  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
Do share which airline this is, in order to refuse the bun rolls when offered.

I gave you a hint when I was talking about where I reside. Just a tip, be nice to the crew ESPECIALLY if you're ordering the special meals which comes with buns on the tray itself.  

Thank you flightsimboy, for reading my SA Linhas Aereas">TR and for your feedback. Appreciate it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Gwadäñña, Mwenzi RvXKaz,

Finally, this day has come! Being a country ambassador as you are, I hope to appropriately greet you this way.

Thank you Monsieur Suryo! What a delightful start to your feedback!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Ever since you drew my attention to your marvelous video reports on YouTube, I was wondering why you were not joining us on A.net.

I guess it was really a matter of time, isn't it. I can now truly appreciate all the effort that goes into writing TRs. And after my first SA Linhas Aereas">TR, frankly, I'm really more comfortable making videos. Its just very tedious to ensure HTML/UBB codes has no mistakes. Phew!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
I am delighted when you have decided to make the move to join us this year. But did you know what makes me even happier? This excellent premiere about two charming African airlines. The Pride of Kenya Airways and the spirit of Ethiopian Airlines! I wished I could have made such impressive debut on A.net, a real blockbuster as you have presented! You have created a wonderful virtual experience along with your video reports what makes everyone like me eager to become a part of. Here, I just had to read every single word of this report of yours. What an inspiring journey I had. Thank you so much for enlightening me.

Thank you, thank you very much. I'm most delighted to hear your gracious compliments on my first debut SA Linhas Aereas">TR. It means alot to me!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Yes, we are. You are blessed in Asia with so many choices of fifth freedom flights.

There are, but just not from SIN. :P blah...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Everyone is inspired by Roni. Me included.

   Legendary!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
This is the best way to praise your loving Mom.

Yeah, she's the best!!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
KQ and ET reflect how big the businesses are between China and African continent.

Yes! African businesspeople to China, Chinese engineers, oil workers and other employees to Africa!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
What an exemplary check-in staff. How nice of you to make a picture as a tribute to them.

I remembered so clearly that they really put me in the mood for my flight! My pleasant experience during check-in just made my heart pound in anticipation of my flight!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
I hope you will get on board of this beauty one day.

Yes I'd love to. Off my mind right now, I don't recall you did a SA Linhas Aereas">TR on the EK A380! I hope you'll get on board it one day, really soon too!   EK would really appreciate it :P

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Way to go! I would have done the same thing.

Glad someone agreed!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Well, count me in, though I like them all almost equally.

Hahaha! good to know!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
At least you know how to write it down. I would have no idea at all, let alone speaking.

Haha, xie xie :P

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
I just love such jolly crew members. They know how to break the ice.

Yes, you should have seen the smile on her face. I won't forget that smile as she said it, it was so warm and genuine.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Nils has answered the question, with the fifth being A345.

Oh yes! the A345, sleek like the leopard! I don't wanna mention my own opinion which of Nil's suggestions is the lumbering rhino Hahaha   

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Her body language speaks volumes.

LOL! It was priceless!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
What goes around, comes around!

Yes Suryo, that's an excellent way to put it. She had that coming!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Especially when she turned out to be a talented photographer.

Oh yes, you're most right!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
I have never been with SA myself, but I would recommend it.

Third recommendation so far! Ugh, better do myself this favour one of these days!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Thank you so much for your nice words and promoting my SA Linhas Aereas">TR.

I'd really look forward to the final installation of your trip to India.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
RvXKaz, thanks again for sharing this exotic, inspiring, hilarious and beautifully written report. A truly gem of its own!

Asante, amesegenallo,
Suryo

Thank you, very very much Suryo! I am most glad you took time to read it and give your feedback! I don't believe I ever seen you greeting in Dutch, but dank u zeer! Thank you Suryo, very much!  



They say that I'm a dreamer. But I'd only Dreamt Skyward.
User currently offlineAflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 21290 times:

Hey RvXkaz

Fantastic trip report to get your a.net career started. The BKK-HKG route sure is one of the best places to log some fifth-freedom routes, reminds me of our own AKL-SYD but BKK-HKG beats it hands down on the amount of carriers (6 vs 3).

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
A snap of the cabin before take-off

I quite like the look of that cabin. Very stylish IMO.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
My happy meal. I love the stylish animal motifs KQ uses on everything!

That meal looks very tasty, it's good to see that both airlines offer a hot meal on this sector.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
Pushback for ET606. It amazes me to see two Ethiopian planes in one picture in BKK!

Indeed, a very rare sight.

Quoting RvXKaz (Thread starter):
My fish option

Another well presented and delicious looking meal.

Thanks for writing this report and looking forward to more. 

Regards,
aflyingkiwi


User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 20498 times:

Hi aflyingkiwi!

Thanks very much for taking time to read my first TR!

Quoting Aflyingkiwi (Reply 17):
Fantastic trip report to get your a.net career started. The BKK-HKG route sure is one of the best places to log some fifth-freedom routes, reminds me of our own AKL-SYD but BKK-HKG beats it hands down on the amount of carriers (6 vs 3).

I agree with you that BKK-HKG is probably the best place to log some exotic 5th freedom flights (especially when prices are competitive due to the competition) though New Zealand has a good amount of 5th freedoms all over Oz thanks to EK.

Just quoting off wikipedia, including the non-5th freedom flights,
BKK-HKG is served by the following airlines: CX, EK, ET, HX, KQ, OX, PK, RJ, UL, FD, TG
SYD-AKL is served by the following airlines: AR, NZ, EK, JQ, LA, QF, DJ

Its just 4 extra airlines over at BKK-HKG compared to SYD-AKL. Quite lovely options down under as well.

Quoting Aflyingkiwi (Reply 17):
That meal looks very tasty, it's good to see that both airlines offer a hot meal on this sector.

Yes, come to think about it, the hot meal offered was something I took for granted. I guess the tight competition would warrant a hot meal service as the minimum.  

Thanks very much, aflyingkiwi, once again for your feedback!

Cheers,
RvXKaz



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8542 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20132 times:
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Hi Gavin,

Great 1st TR, well done, lot's of detail and effort.

If I had the time I would be doing things like this, as it's a cheap and easy way of trying out carriers you might never get the opportunity to fly.

The KQ interior is quite colourful, I think I prefer the more drab looking ET cabin, it's a bit more soothing IMO.

Looking forward to reading more reports from you in the future.

Best Wishes

Mark - BA319-131



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5169 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20123 times:

Hi, G.,

really well done, such a nice number of pictures and you´re story around is also really worth to read.
You know, I´ve followed you´re vid´s also.

So, when are the next flights on schedule?.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinerobso2 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2010, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 20002 times:

Great trip report! Great to see the 5th freedom flights on the forum - what a wonderful combination to fly in the heart of Asia.
Look forward to your next reports, hopefully sooner rather than later!
Best wishes,
Rob



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User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 19964 times:
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Cool trip report, it's nice to read about those 5th freedom flights. Thank you for writing a great comparison of these two African airlines!

User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (3 years 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 19771 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 20):
really well done, such a nice number of pictures and you´re story around is also really worth to read.
You know, I´ve followed you´re vid´s also.

Hi Markus! Was really pleased that you took time to read my TR and watch my videos! I'm really glad you enjoyed my TR as much as I've always enjoyed yours! Thanks so much for your comments!

Quoting robso2 (Reply 21):
Great trip report! Great to see the 5th freedom flights on the forum - what a wonderful combination to fly in the heart of Asia.
Look forward to your next reports, hopefully sooner rather than later!

Hi Rob! I'm glad you liked my first TR. 5th freedoms are always a pleasure to fly and definitely a pleasure to share! Thanks very much for your feedback. Appreciate it.

Quoting je89_w (Reply 22):
Cool trip report, it's nice to read about those 5th freedom flights. Thank you for writing a great comparison of these two African airlines!

Thanks je89_w for reading and your feedback! I'm really glad you liked it.  

Thank you, all, once again for your kind feedback. I appreciate it.



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2471 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 19731 times:

Beste RvXKaz,

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 16):
I'm really more comfortable making videos

As you wish, RvXKaz. You are the master of video TR!  



Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 14):
I hope you'll get on board it one day, really soon too!   EK would really appreciate it :P

I certainly hope so.  



Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 16):
I won't forget that smile as she said it, it was so warm and genuine

With your picture of her, I can imagine it.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 16):
Nil's suggestions is the lumbering rhino Hahaha

Err, B744?

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 16):
I'd really look forward to the final installation of your trip to India.

I am doing my best. Thank you for encouraging.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 16):
but dank u zeer! Thank you Suryo, very much!

Geen dank

Groetjes,
Suryo



Friends forever
25 Post contains images eastafspot : that is one of the reasons, amongst other things. ALL KQ's heavy long haul have ptv not for ET... even if the entertainment choice is not as huge as
26 ATLFlyer323 : Great Report! It's great to read a trip report where the writer truly loves flying! I hope to read more of your reports in the future! -ATLFlyer
27 chepos : Excellent piece, very interesting. Are the Thai and Mandarin language crews based in BKK and HKG respectively or in NBO? Serving Fish in coach, does i
28 AirIndia77W : Great trip report! Enjoyed all the photos! --Nate
29 Post contains images RvXKaz : Hi everyone, Thanks very much for reading and your kind feedback. Thank you Suryo, always have appreciated your support for my videos! Thank you very,
30 Post contains images The777Man : hi Gavin! Very very nice report and very nice pictures! Nice that KQ now flies the 777 to HKG so you got a chance to try it. I actuallyflew on the ver
31 Braniff747SP : Excellent TR. Very interesting to see the two airlines, and how they compare- thanks for posting.
32 Post contains images RvXKaz : Hi The777Man, thank you very much for your feedback! Ah, yes I can recollect your ET777LR report (and I was just reading your KQ 777 report from 2007
33 Post contains images Luftfahrer : Hi RvXKaz! I am sorry for replying so late, as you have delivered such a top-notch trip report. Many thanks for sharing and please keep it up. I would
34 Post contains images RvXKaz : Hello Marius, Thank you so much for reading and I appreciate your kind feedback. Thank you so much! Thank you, I'm really glad you like that. Oh yes,
35 nethkt : Amazing trip report. Very detailed and every photos are clear and perfect. Thank you so much for sharing. Both are indeed very good choice to fly from
36 RvXKaz : Hi nethkt, Thanks so much for reading my TR and your very kind feedback! I certainly agree! Cheers, RvXKaz
37 Post contains images ronerone : Hi RvXKaz, Welcome to the world of a.net TR's, and well done on this superb compilation which was filled with excitement, detail, and fantastic pictur
38 abrelosojos : Gavin - Thanks a lot for the tremendously satisfying report on two of Africa's brightest airlines. It was a wonderful read, and I had no idea this was
39 Post contains links RvXKaz : Hi Roni! Thank you for your welcome wishes! As a.net's most famous trip reporter, I am most glad that you took time to read my TR! Oh yes! I did read
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