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Intra-European Adventures On SK/QI/Sun Air  
User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7231 times:

Intra-European Adventures on SK/QI/Sun Air
May 30, 2011

Just another short trip report on a number of interesting European airlines that I flew this past week! For the European readers, these flights might be quite ordinary but for a US based traveler, it is quite interesting to fly to all these new airports and to experience all these new airlines. Of course the excitement is towards flying into two new airports: Berlin Tegel and Billund, as well as flying two new airlines, Cimber Air and Sun Air of Scandinavia. (Well technically three, I flew Air Berlin from Milan to Berlin the evening before. Despite flying an A320 with new interiors, the service was only average and there was plenty written here about AB. However, I would say that Niki, its Austraian partner, is way ahead of Air Berlin, in terms of flight attendants and catering.) Most importantly I have been trying to catch a flight on the Dornier 328 Turboprop and Sun Air offers a good option. I actually have flown the Dornier 328 Jet previously with Midwest Connect, and just missing the turboprop version. After looking through various options, flying to Billund and Sun Air is my best option. Nevertheless things did not quite go the way I have planned and let start this adventure now!

For those who want to look at the whole album, there is a direct link below each flight to the shutterfly album!

SK 1674 TXL-CPH Lv0935 Arr1035 Canadair CRJ-900 “Karl Viking”
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Booking:
I found a decent fare on this through flight from Berlin Tegel to Billund via Copenhagen on SAS own website. I like being able to pay in US dollars through SAS USA website and no need to deal with foreign transaction fee and fluctuating exchange rate charged by credit card. The second flight was operated by Cimber Air but booked as a SK flight.

Check-in:
I used SAS online check-in 22 hours prior to flight because I want to get an exit row seat. SAS is actually quite good with seat assignment and you can any seat on the plane and there is no blocked seat for premium passengers. Berlin is one of the airports that require you using the airport’s own system to complete the online check-in. I was able to change my seat to the exit row but my Star Gold status won’t be recognized by the system. However, I was unable to print out the boarding passes, but it did not give me any issues the next day. I presume it has happened before. Anyway, I did not care much as long as I got my exit row seat.

Berlin Tegel Airport:
It is quite an interesting airport –a typical city airport, which was quite compact and can be crowded especially Monday morning. I arrived the evening before on Air Berlin, which used a structure that looked like a shack more than a proper terminal. It was quite late at night so the airport was very quiet. However it was quite interesting in the daytime and it was all busy. It took me a while to locate the check-in counters, as the arrangement was quite unique and spread out. SAS uses Terminal D, along with SN Brussels Airlines, Finnair, Luxair, Czech Airlines, and a number of other non-LH and Schegen airlines. Check-in line was quite empty despite being a full flight and there was an ARN flight departing twenty minutes after us. Agents were efficient and every one just followed the rules. Boarding passes were printed out seconds late and baggage was checked through. There was even a smile and a nice “thank you for flying SAS”. With my Star Gold card, I was able to use the fast track line, and the agent was quite familiar with all these elite programs. Gotta love the Germans – no nonsense and I was through in minutes and the security personnel were actually pleasant to deal with, and these folks definitely knew what to do. I did not use the Star Alliance lounge, as it was all the way back at the A concourse!

Not too many pictures of Tegel because it was very crowded, but I manage a few later!
Lufthansa Land – number of LH narrowbodies


Continental Boeing 757-200 Winglet in updated United’s motif heading back to Newark – love the close up shot!


Luxair Embraer Jet – high on my list to fly but unfortunately, not this year though


SN Brussels Avro Jet – OO-DWD heading to Brussels – also high on my list and will happen later this month


Lovely plane and pushing back


Air Berlin Dash 8-Q400


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User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7234 times:

Boarding:
Our plane was parked in the remote area and we had to take a bus there. Bus gates are D79 and D80! Here is a list of the flights using the bus gate in the mid-morning.
Boarding began at 9am sharp and like all European flight, there was no zone or priority boarding!

SAS CRJ-900 OY-KFF named “Karl Viking” (the name reminds me of my old roommate)


The plane is so long that I could not even grab a picture capturing the whole plane!


Engines


Close up of name motif


Nose of the plane


Nose gear


Cargo Hold


Cabin shot:


Basically a four abreast cabin and there was a row of business class (next to the loo), and two more rows of economy extra seats; and from Row 4 on, it is all economy. The plane was in good condition – not the cleanest, but fine!

Exit Row


Winglet


Flight information
Two F/As worked on this CRJ-900 flight, and they were cordial and efficient. The Y F/A gave a very detailed emergency exit demo for us in those rows, and unlike the US, no bags could be placed underneath the seat in front of you! Door was closed on time, and we pushed back a minute later. Following a CSA ATR-72-500 OK-XFA, we took our turn at R/W26L at 9:45am. Flying time was a short forty-five minutes! The pilot gave us a brief talk after reaching the cruising attitude, but I could not get any attitude information. I wish there is a European version of flightaware so I can track those information after flight! The flight was pretty short and I was surprised that no buy on board service was offered, but we all got a complimentary cup of water!

Wow… free cup of water at SAS economy


Business and economy extra passengers got a full beverage service and not sure if there was any snack though. The announcement only said that they would get a full beverage service.

Descent soon began at 10:08am and we landed on R/W22L at 10:28am. We parked at gate B19 four minutes later, and next to an interesting plane – a Jettime Boeing 737-300 (?) OY-JTE operated a Blue 1 flight to Helsinki.


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7229 times:

“Karl Viking” at CPH


Sign showing the Blue 1 flight to HEL at gate B16


Jettime Boeing 737-300 OY-JTE pushing from CPH to HEL


A nearby SAS MD-80


QI 409/SK 8341 CPH-BLL Lv1320 Arr1405 ATR72-200 OY-CIM
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Transit:
I had almost two and a half hours at Copenhagen Airport, and CPH is quite a nice European airport filled with shops and restaurants. I was hungry so decided to grab a bite. The Asian noodle place was a disappointment and the Teriyaki chicken was overly sweet and left a bad taste in my mouth. Well I headed to the SAS Lounge next, since I am a Star Gold member flying SAS. Of course the lounge attendant denied my entry claiming that Cimber was no longer paying entry fee for their flights, but then I said, despite this flight was operated by Cimber Air, I bought the ticket with SAS. It was technically a SAS flight and SAS was just paying Cimber Air. Then she asked where I came from, Berlin Tegel on SAS! She said no, but I guess SAS has followed their US counterparts on denying intra-European flights passengers to use the lounge. This bitter experience really left me wondering if I should book SAS again in the future. If a LCC was selling a flight cheaper, I would go for it. Then I went back to the restaurant area and finally settled on a pasta dish that was slightly better than the Asian noodle place.

Boarding:
Cimber Air uses Pier A and it was quite an interesting terminal. It was quite a walk but I enjoy all the paintings and architecture. Planespotting was a bit sparse in the early afternoon hours. There were a couple Cimber planes, as well as SN Brussels, Air France and KLM. The airport was quite big and the planes were pretty spread out.

Sign to Gates A18-A36


Long corridor


Lovely painting


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7220 times:

Cimber Air CRJ-200 OY-RJA


Cimber Sterling Boeing 737-700 Winglet


Double Cimber tails


Air France Baby Airbus A318


Towards A25 to A34 – nice corridor


Escalator to Ground Level


Gate A26


Gate Area – reminds of an IKEA showroom


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7218 times:

OY-CIM


Propeller shot


Nearby sister plane OY-RTF to Aalborg


Flight information:
Boarding began at 1:07pm and we were first directed to another room, and then after completing the head count, the gate agent opened the door and we walked towards the plane. It was very efficient. Every passenger seemed to be familiar with the procedures, and the open seating arrangement and a light load helps to speed up things! It is interesting to note that those with roller bags walked to the other end of the plane to drop off their suitcases. No one care about me taking pictures or people walking towards the cargo area. No need to worry about Arabian, British or US agents yelling at you! There were two F/As but with a short flight time, there was no service at all! Door was closed at 1:21pm, and we started up two minutes later, and headed towards R/W22R. We took off at 1:28pm and our flight time was thirty-five minutes. Descent began at 1:55pm and we landed on a cloudy Billund R/W27 at 2:03pm. We parked at gate 31 three minutes later.

Cabin shot


Blue leather seats


Seat pitch was tight though and I did not want to fly it on a full flight situation.


Billund Airport


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7208 times:

OY-CIM at Billund


A quick look at the apron – a QI CR2 and a Primera Boeing 737 to HEL


Arrival monitor at BLL


Baggage claim


BA 8203 Operated by Sun Air of Scandinavia BLL to DUS Lv1715 Arr1835 Dornier 328? OY-SVB
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I had another afternoon to spend at Billund airport, which was quite compact. Lots of charter activities, as well as number of Cimber Air flights to CPH and other European cities… Ryannair also flies there but no flight during my four hours stay. Air France operates a few regional flights there, as well as a surprisingly number of KLM 737 flights to AMS. British Airways/Sun Air also operates a number of flights to various European and UK cities using mostly Dornier 328 Turboprop and 328 Jet. The airport was slightly busy with number of charter flights, but not overwhelming. Every staff looked happy. The security line was manageable and I feel safe even I don’t have to take off my shoes for scanning, or go through a body scan.

Outside view of Billund Airport


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7197 times:

Check-in area


BA Office


An interesting decoration/seating area


Line of airline offices


Departure screen directing to which lane – only four lanes though ABC & D


Main Departure Hall after security – very compact – a few shops, a bar and a café


King Amlet Lounge – sole airline lounge at BLL


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7188 times:

It is a really nice lounge and I was admitted with no issue and/or fuss! The lounge was huge. Lots of comfortable seating stations, as well as lots of light snacks options.


Lufthansa Boeing 747-400


Chess Board


Black gammon board


Business Station


Primera Boeing 737 heading to Helsinki


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7178 times:

An all white British Jetstream 32 OY-SVB – no passengers deplaned and I wonder why


Departure gates 8-10 – another Ikea showroom


Gate 8 was our gate this afternoon heading to Dusseldorf


Saw this Dornier 328 Turboprop OY-NCA and I got very excited about it!


Its baby cousin, OY-SVB in the background

I arrived at the gate a bit earlier since I had spent enough time at the lounge. As time approached, I got curious, as there was no activity going on with NCA, except a truck stopped by and examined the cargo hold and then closed it. At the same time, I noticed that this all white OY-SVB got lots of activities – refueling and pilots were approaching the plane. The plane had arrived thirty minutes ago and there was no one leaving the plane, except the pilots. So it was a ferry flight. I immediately got out my iphone and checked the registration. (Thankfully I still could access the wifi at the lounge) OY-SVB was indeed a Sun Air’s Bae Jetstream 32. Then boarding call was announced at 5:03pm, and even my computer bag had to be checked. It was quite disappointing in the beginning and the plane was really small as they lacked galley (but with a toilet – I did not check it out though). I worried that there would not be service and could not experience all those services explained at the airlines website. Well what can you do? But I at least still scores a new aircraft type – as I have only flown Bae Jestream 41 with United Express/Atlantic Coast before. It is possibly more difficult to score a jetstream 32 in my log book these days.


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7171 times:

A close-up shot of OY-SVB


A close up of the propeller - TPE331-12UAR-70


Well at gate, two F/As greeted passengers and assisted with the carry on situation especially some of the most common bags including computer bags could not fit (or in my opinion, it blocked up the precious legroom space). Many passengers were shocked when they saw the small plane. It was clear that there was a last minute aircraft change and the original Dornier possibly had some issues. I could not imagine any airline staffing a normal Jetstream 32 with two F/As, and they even need to save one single passenger seat (1B) and may be one more in the back for the F/A to sit at Row 1. The aircraft that I spotted, OY-NCA, was either going to London City (my other original choice), or Brussels, but not to Dusseldorf today. I noticed crews approached the plane, as we were wrapping up our preparation at Billund.

Cabin shot – very cramped cabin with a three abreast arrangement and there is no overhead locker of any type. The A seats (solo window seats) are definitely preferred. I love BA seating policy and allowing OW Emerald passengers to reserve a seat in advance.


Note the tray holder and table


Overhead panel


Did you see the Jetstream sign? So classic


Seat pitch shot – not much to offer as expected


List of cockpit and cabin crew on the flight – saw the curtain next to it – that is the cockpit – no real separator


There is also no intercom and the F/A had to physically walk to the cockpit to communicate with the pilots about completion of takeoff and landing checks, and to bring them food.

Since the cargo hold was located at the aft part of the plane behind the door, we had to wait a few minutes for the ground agents to load the luggage in the aft cargo hold. Same with arrival – as it took them a bit to unload all the luggage off before letting us deplane. It was interesting nonetheless. Door was closed early at 5:11pm and we started up at 5:19pm. It was quite a noisy plane, as expected. The pilot announced that our flying time would be longer than normal – an hour and thirty minutes due to strong headwind. We took off from R/W9 at 5:25pm, and seat belt sign was off eight minutes later.

Propeller over the European continent


Window shot – the window was actually quite large in size and provided a good view, and 2A gave me a good view of the engines!


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7167 times:

Safety card


Next come the surprise – despite lacking of a proper galley, a full snack service was offered – possibly more than one can expect on such an aircraft. I felt bad for the F/A who had to walk through the short and narrow aisle. I cannot even stand straight.

First come the earplugs – need I say more about the noise level? I found it okay but for 90 minutes, it could be annoying. I ended up watching videos through my iphone anyway, but had to turn the volume to maximum level.


Then the F/A walked with a tray of cold beverages – sodas, wines, and beers, and glasses of ice along with pretzel nuggets, like those typically served by BA.


Is that it? Of course not – next the F/A came by with these papers bags – a sandwich – turkey ham, green pepper and mayo on a multigrain nuts rolls, and a green apple, along with sugar and plastic utensils


Then another tea and coffee service, and when you thought service was over, the F/A came by with trays of Caramel and vanilla ice cream cups!


More tea and coffee before trash was collected! Wet naps were available, but on request.

The flight continued and it was actually quite smooth this late afternoon, despite the head wind.


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1946 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7167 times:

Cups of water were later offered prior to the beginning of descent.


Descent soon began at 6:43pm, and seat belt sign was turned on soon. We landed on a very hot Dusseldorf at 8:57pm on R/W23R, and I already spotted the BA Airbus A320 G-EUUP that would take me to Heathrow next landing before us. We parked quickly and some farewell shot!

It was a very surprising experience! Sun Air definitely impresses me and I will admit the price was extremely expensive (at least from an one way perspective). I priced an one way BLL to LHR vis DUS and it was $400USD, so I used my AA miles, since it is a BA flight, and Sun Air is an acceptable BA affiliate for award travels. Anyway, I am definitely going to stick with Sun Air in pursuit of flying the Dornier 328 Turboprop! Of course I will appreciate any advice from any of you regarding getting a flight on the Dornier 328 Turboprop!


Anyway, I hope you have enjoyed this report!
I will leave you a farewell shot of the BA Airbus A320 G-EUUP that brought me back to Heathrow!


Thanks for reading!
Carfield


User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7032 times:

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Wow… free cup of water at SAS economy

I realise SAS is not in the best of financial health ... but I would have thought you would have been offered more than this.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Well I headed to the SAS Lounge next, since I am a Star Gold member flying SAS. Of course the lounge attendant denied my entry claiming that Cimber was no longer paying entry fee for their flights, but then I said, despite this flight was operated by Cimber Air, I bought the ticket with SAS. It was technically a SAS flight and SAS was just paying Cimber Air. Then she asked where I came from, Berlin Tegel on SAS! She said no, but I guess SAS has followed their US counterparts on denying intra-European flights passengers to use the lounge.

I thought all Star Gold members had lounge access in Europe. Or maybe I,m wrong ? I do believe the SAS lounge at CPH gets busy so maybe it's trying to limit pax who use it.


User currently offlinetropical77W From Canada, joined Dec 2009, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6986 times:

The A25-A34 corridor picture you took at CPH reminds me of the Avignon TGV station in France:

http://www.frenchfriends.info/g2/mai...m&g2_itemId=1897&g2_serialNumber=2

Great report!


User currently offlineHELyes From Finland, joined Oct 2010, 997 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

Thanks for the TR! Great pictures.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Jettime Boeing 737-300 OY-JTE pushing from CPH to HEL

Last winter when I flew Blue1 on OSL-HEL I thought now I finally get on their pretty B717 but I got an old tired 733 of Jettime... It looks Blue1 still has capacity problems. Jettime usually flies charters from Denmark.


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6518 times:

Excellent report, I would take a Jetstream over a Dornier anytime, what a great aircraft change! The service is impressing, all this catering for such a short flight.

In Order to get your Dornier, you may try to get a LH-flight operated by Cirrus Airlines. They're flying from Mannheim (MHG), which is near Frankfurt, to Berlin and Hamburg, as well as from Hof (HOQ), which is near Nuremberg, to Frankfurt. They also opened a new route from Muenster (FMO) to Salzburg recently. Maybe you want to check out their website. If you book through LH with LH-flight number fares start at around 90-100 EUR incl. Taxes return..


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6035 times:

Quoting reifel (Reply 15):
In Order to get your Dornier, you may try to get a LH-flight operated by Cirrus Airlines. They're flying from Mannheim (MHG), which is near Frankfurt, to Berlin and Hamburg, as well as from Hof (HOQ), which is near Nuremberg, to Frankfurt. They also opened a new route from Muenster (FMO) to Salzburg recently. Maybe you want to check out their website. If you book through LH with LH-flight number fares start at around 90-100 EUR incl. Taxes return..

Well, Cirrus has stopped the MHG - HAM route so ex MHG there are left the 4 daily flights from/to TXL only.
I think the highest chances for a cheap ticket are on the FRA - HOQ route in general.
But still nothing beats the the "thrilling experience of landing and take off at MHG" where the Dornier shows it´s performance capabilities ...
It´s wise to always check both LH and C9 websites !
At least with Cirrus you´re guaranteed a seat on a Dornier 328 prop
(since their 328 jet and last Dash-8´s were sold quite a while ago...)

[Edited 2011-06-05 01:07:31]


I miss the sound of rolls royce darts and speys
User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5943 times:

Thanks, wasn't aware they've stopped MHG-HAM. What could also be an option is Welcome Air, as far as I know they have a Dornier328 fleet as well...

What could also be tried, would be a SCN-TXL with LG on the Embraer (as the thread opener stated he wants to take that one) and then back TXL-MHG with C9. However a decent fare will only be possible with LH. I guess a open jaw on one ticket in E- or T- class could work out at around 100-150 EUR... Would be a good combination and SCN not too far away from MHG...


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Hi Carfield,

A very nice report, good to be viewing some very familiar places and carriers from a completely different point of view! Lots of nice and detailed pictures in there as well, enjoyed it a lot!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
For the European readers, these flights might be quite ordinary but for a US based traveler, it is quite interesting to fly to all these new airports and to experience all these new airlines

Well, it'll be the same for me if I come to the US...  
Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
I would say that Niki, its Austraian partner, is way ahead of Air Berlin, in terms of flight attendants and catering.)

True. AB offers a nice and very consistent service with good value for money, but Niki just goes that extra mile further making it a great product!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Berlin is one of the airports that require you using the airport’s own system to complete the online check-in.

Actually that's the Lufthansa system you need to use everywhere in Germany when flying with SK. It's the same for LH departures ex-Scandinavia.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
I arrived the evening before on Air Berlin, which used a structure that looked like a shack more than a proper terminal.

Ahh, the C gates shack. Yes, it indeed is quite bad an can get crowded, but hopefully BBI will fix that when it opens.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Luxair Embraer Jet – high on my list to fly but unfortunately, not this year though

I managed their Dash this year, yay!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
The flight was pretty short and I was surprised that no buy on board service was offered, but we all got a complimentary cup of water!

Yep, this is what the nowadays do on the really short flights. CPH-GDN/TXL/GOT at least seem to get it. Probably HAM too, will check out that route with the CR9 later this year.

Interestingly when I flew TXL-CPH back in 2003 with an MD-80 everybody in economy got a sandwich, a chocolate bar and drink service, SAS was my favorite airline back then.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
and next to an interesting plane – a Jettime Boeing 737-300 (?) OY-JTE operated a Blue 1 flight to Helsinki.
Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Jettime Boeing 737-300 OY-JTE pushing from CPH to HEL

Oh, I would LOVE to get on a such flight! Jettime isn't exactly an easy airline to score.

That livery looks a bit weird though, the cheatline looks like a huge scratch that's torn the aluminium!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Of course the lounge attendant denied my entry claiming that Cimber was no longer paying entry fee for their flights, but then I said, despite this flight was operated by Cimber Air, I bought the ticket with SAS. It was technically a SAS flight and SAS was just paying Cimber Air. Then she asked where I came from, Berlin Tegel on SAS! She said no, but I guess SAS has followed their US counterparts on denying intra-European flights passengers to use the lounge.

Nope, that's not it. You'd be allowed in a jiffy were you flying SK metal (with an SK flight number) on say CPH-AAL. The problem is that they don't grant people access when they are flying with a "pure" QI operated flight. There's a lot of confusion as there are different QI flights, some of them have purely QI flight number, some both QI and a SK codeshare one and some are "Operated by CimberSterling for SAS" which only come with an SK flight number. Only the last kind of flights qualify for *G lounge access. The SAS website does not make much distinction between these different combinations, hence there's always lots of confusion.

She asked where you were coming from because if you're flying intercontintental with SAS you can use the lounge as an arrivals lounge no matter who you are departing on (or even just staying at CPH).

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Towards A25 to A34 – nice corridor

Yep, I like it a lot as well. Always reminds me something out of Star Wars.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Gate Area – reminds of an IKEA showroom

Well, the lounge IS an IKEA showroom!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
There were two F/As but with a short flight time, there was no service at all!

When I flew CPH-BLL on QI back in 2009 (which was a failed attempt to fly HEL-BLL on SunAir to catch the DO328) we were offered coffee/tea and a couple of biscuits.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
I had another afternoon to spend at Billund airport, which was quite compact.

BLL is a nice airport, although I think it's far too large for the traffic it receives.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
King Amlet Lounge – sole airline lounge at BLL
Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
It is a really nice lounge and I was admitted with no issue and/or fuss! The lounge was huge. Lots of comfortable seating stations, as well as lots of light snacks options.

I visited this lounge back in February and agree with you - surprisingly nice, even great for an airport like BLL. And yes, it is huge!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Primera Boeing 737 heading to Helsinki

Now that's an interesting flight. Must be either a positioning flight, a tag on segment on a charter flight somewhere further or possibly a Legoland charter now that SunAir shifted the HEL-BLL service to AAR.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Saw this Dornier 328 Turboprop OY-NCA and I got very excited about it!

You should! After failing to log the type with SunAir I managed with Cirrus in Germany last summer.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
(Thankfully I still could access the wifi at the lounge) OY-SVB was indeed a Sun Air’s Bae Jetstream 32.

Bugger, that's bad! I'm sorry for you, but at least you now have an excuse to come back!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
as I have only flown Bae Jestream 41 with United Express/Atlantic Coast before. It is possibly more difficult to score a jetstream 32 in my log book these days.

Again things are exactly the opposite in Europe - I've flown both the J31 and J32, but the J4x are quite rare here. Eastern Airways in the UK is probably the best option for that.


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5129 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5333 times:

Just excellent reporting (as usual). I sometimes wish I had the time to move to my "mother" Continent and just spend a month flying these small airlines. Thanks for sharing again.

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):
Luxair Embraer Jet – high on my list to fly but unfortunately, not this year though

= Just got off the flight on them, and was impressed - short FRA-LUX hop had free sandwich!

Quoting Carfield (Thread starter):

Wow… free cup of water at SAS economy

= Ya. Amazing how standards have fallen at SK. Compare that with what BA gave you.

Again, thanks!

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineOlafW From Germany, joined Jul 2009, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

Hey Carfield,

thanks for a great report. I couldn't help but smile at your mentioning Billund as "very compact". You should see Friedrichshafen or Bern in comparison. Those are really small ones.

To get your Do328 flight, there are even more options than those already mentioned. Apart from Cirrus - who I find quiet expensive - you could try Skywork Airlines. They are based in Bern and serve Hamburg, Berlin, London, Barcelona... Just some of their flights are on a Dash8-Q400, so you would need to check before. And there is Innsbruck-based Welcome Air with a smaller selection of destinations. Welcome Air also owns Air Alps who offer some intra-Italian flights. And finally Scot Airways operate some Do328s. I'm not sure about their network, but they seem to operate some flights for Blue Islands from Jersey

Maybe one of those is an option for you?


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