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Hopping Around Poland: POZ, WAW And KTW  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8464 times:

Introduction

While searching for Wizz flights for an earlier trip of mine ( Bavaria To Finland In 4 Flts: FMM-NYO-GDN-CPH-HEL (by FlyingFinn76 Apr 16 2011 in Trip Reports) ), I noticed some really cheap fares ex-NYO with them. After looking for some nice destinations I hadn’t yet been to and suitable openings in my calendar I ended up booking a flight to Poznan in Poland for a Saturday afternoon in early June for the grand price of 99 SEK (around 11 EUR) all-in.

To get to Sweden in time for this flight it was a choice between the morning flight to ARN on KF or the horribly early morning flight on BT via RIX. Unfortunately on Saturdays there’s only a single flight with DY at noon, which was too late to make it to Skavsta on time. I’d of course preferred the KF option as that left at a far more humane time, but that was a bit pricey so I had to settle for the BT one, which for under 60 EUR was good value for money.

The next thing I booked was the flight home from Poland - BT recently made the WAW-RIX flight double daily, and the evening flight on Sunday was perfect for me (even though it meant another flight on the notorious “Midnight Fokker” to HEL), and available for around 70 EUR so that was booked as well.

After looking at options to connect the dots I noticed that Polish domestic flights on LOT and EuroLOT are very cheap (especially when booking via the US Expedia site), so I couldn’t help but adding a detour to Katowice, another new airport for me. The morning POZ-WAW flight was not as cheap, it cost around 60 EUR as I hesitated too long, but the WAW-KTW-WAW roundtrip ticket cost only around 40 EUR.

Having booked all that that I was set for another weekend trip with the following nice itinerary:

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Saturday 4.6.2011

It’s been a while (a year actually) since I’ve last taken this horrible “Early bird Fokker” flight, nowadays departing already at 5.05. BT has slowly been moving the departure time earlier and earlier, I think it originally departed at 5.45 when it was introduced three or so years ago... At least I was pretty sensible and went to bed very early, so waking up at the markuslike hour of 3.30 is surprisingly painless - of course the fact that it is summertime in Finland and thus already daylight outside helps a lot! No wonder many foreigners suffer from insomnia in the Finnish summer...

A quick shower, glass of juice (far too early for eating) and packing the rest of the kit together and out to catch the bus to the airport - luckily they nowadays run all throughout the night. Well, this is June in Finland, 4 AM:

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At T1 some 20 minutes later, there’s a surprising number of people there already - most of them seem to be queuing for the Norwegian check in (with the kiosks standing empty...). Security has only one lane open, but only one or two people there, so no problems. By the time I’m gathering my stuff I already hear them announcing “Final call” for my flight - looks like they want to get us on our way ASAP since there’s around half an hour to go until the scheduled departure time. Well, the lounge only opens at six so it’s not like I want to hang around the terminal anway.

I ask the very perky (at this hour!) gate agent at the bus gate 15A: “You really want to us to leave early, do you?” - She says that yes, so I remark: “Well, all the better for me as it means more lounge time at RIX!”. Most of the passengers are already waiting in the bus downstairs, and two or three more arrive after me and then we set off for the short drive to our Fokker, looking good in the morning light:

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YL-BAS this time, my eight flight on this bird.

HEL - RIX
BT330
F50 YL-BAS
Seat 11A
4.53 - 5.49

Another BT Fokker, another musky smell - the seats should really be thrown out and replaced with new ones if BT is going to stick with these Fokkers in the years to come. Who knows what kind of alien lifeforms live inside the padding and what kind of nasty things have been spilled on them over the years.

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While settling for my seat on the last row I remark how perky the cute young back galley FA is looking - she surprises me by telling that she hasn’t slept at all - in fact the whole crew took this bird to HEL as the Midnight Fokker less than four hours prior. I knew that the plane comes from that particular flight, but I never knew that even the crew is the same! Apparently they only operate BT329/BT330, have four hours off in the middle and can then go home to sleep after arriving at RIX. These BT crew shifts are really weird!

Disaligned windows on this particular row:



A rather good load for this early flight - 80% or so. The single row of business class is of course empty, as expected. Once I flew this flight with only four pax onboard, so the loads have definitely improved. Flight time is announced as 1h5mins with “beautiful weather” en route by our cheery captain. Departure is a nice 12 minutes early, with take off from 22R somewhat later.

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I doze through this flight, only snapping some photos on our approach:

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Just before landing connecting gate information is read out as has become the norm on BT lately (and something I like a lot - SAS usually does this at CPH as well). Cnnections include HAM, KBP, ARN, TXL, CPH and BRU.

We land on Riga’s runway 18 after around 55 minutes of flight time, and end up in the parking place in front of the arrivals door.

Nice visitor from VKO:

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Bye:

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Riga Airport

With a nice early arrival and an unexpected bonus of not having to bus it to the terminal I have plenty of time for a lounge visit. My plane is the one in the middle, sandwiched between a SmartLynx A320 and a BT 733:

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They have some sinful looking donuts, so I fix up a breakfast of champions, plus some excellent reading material:

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One of these donuts would’ve been enough, with that sweet Estonian yogurt I almost overdose on sugar and am not really feeling very well!

The flight is surprisingly late boarding, despite the plane being there and looking ready:

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This flight was originally scheduled on a Dash, but at some point got changed to a 735, which it remains today. YL-BBQ, Bar-be-cue, yummy - my 4th meal... err, flight with her.

This flight now carries a JZ code as well as per the recently announced co-operation agreement with Skyways (which resulted RIX-GOT being operated only by JZ nowadays):

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RIX - ARN
BT101
B737-500 YL-BBQ
Seat 21A
6.59 - 7.03

Being in the penultimate row I chat some with the back galley FA - she informs me that we will be waiting for 20 minutes or so for a number of pax connecting from the slightly delayed TAS flight. Still, the load is very low between 30 and 40 pax and she suggests that if I want to sleep I could just lift the armrests - yes, the whole row for me today. The load on the flight back will be slightly better with some 60 pax, still they could’ve easily use the originally scheduled Dash for it...

YL-BBI, still not going to BBI but OSL instead next to us:

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In the meantime our captain welcomes us onboard to this flight to “Stockholm Arlanda International Airport” (never heard that one before), informs us of the slight delay and an expected flight time of 50 minutes and a temperature that is “the same as here”.

Soon a bunch of passengers arrive, most of whom seem to be French actually. The low load:

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Soon after we push back, 24 minutes late, taxi to 36 and perform a fast rolling take off.

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Some pretty views of the Jurmala beaches and western Latvia after take off:

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The beach season has started:

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Tukums airport - at the height of the overheating of the Latvian economy they were talking about introducing low cost flights there. Come on, FR paid a turnaround fee of 1 EUR per 738 at RIX so I wonder how somebody could go lower than that:

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Leaving Latvia - this is Ventspils, Latvia’s richest city, thanks to its harbor shipping Russian oil to the world - VNT airport can be seen on top, sadly nowadays without any scheduled flights:

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I listen to some music and doze some more, and in no time at all Stockholm comes into view and we commence our descent towards ARN:

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Three ferries heading into Stockholm, one after another:

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ARN in the distance, looks like the 19s are on use today:

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Landing is on 19R after 58 minutes in the air (it’s a bit of a detour to approach the 19s from the north!). Plenty of traffic here:

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I still can’t get used to this sight - what should I call the company - “Continented” or “Unitental”?

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What’s a TF Avro doing here:

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Interestingly we arrive to a jetway at the F pier, my first with BT as usually they use the two gates next to Starbucks in Pier B. Cityflyer to LCY:

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Bye, baby:

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Stockholm Arlanda Airport to “Stockholm” Skavsta Airport

I have plenty of time so decide to head to the Menzies lounge for some coffee and Internet - they don’t nowadays ask for a boarding pass so one can use it as an arrivals facility as well - very handy. I drink a few cups of coffee, fix me a sandwich and surf away while watching the activity in front of me. Interesting patchwork on this Thomas Cook A330, still showing through the “Garuda Indonesia” titles and the orange of MyTravel:

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An hour later I decide to head to the city - as a coincidence fellow Finnish a.netter AYA333 is passing through Stockholm today and we agreed to have a quick meet in the city. He sends me a message that he is already in his bus from NYO to Stockholm Cityterminalen, so I hop to the next Flygbussen. Of course ARN being half the distance away from the city than NYO I’m there much earlier, so spend some time looking around the quite nice bus terminal:

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Tracks leading to the Central Station, Stockholm C, right next door:

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Finally he arrives, and we head to find a nice enough outdoor terrace (did I mention the weather is just gorgeous?) for some coffee and chat.

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Far too soon it is time to start the long journey to Skavsta, so I bid AYA333 farewell, walk back to the bus terminal and spend some confusing time trying to figure out where the bus leaves as their displays are saying something completely different than the actual timetable.

There’s a huge scrum at the gate and for some reason they have this very stupid system where the gate has two doors and a holding pen in-between. The outer doors only open if the inner door is closed, but thanks to the heaving mass (with quite a few Polish ladies, yep, NYO is a large Wizz destination and Sweden is very popular with them!) of humanity people keep pushing against them and the outer doors cannot open. Some frustration later somebody starts finally yelling some sense into people and somehow I end up with one of the last seats in the bus - I think around half the pax were left to wait for the next service half an hour later (and one which would’ve been quite a close shave for me!).

An hour and a quarter later (there were some roadworks causing congestion around Södertälje) we finally stop in front of the Skavsta terminal - this place really should not be called “Stockholm” airport being this far away:

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Skavsta Airport

Quite a queue at security:

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The are three Wizz flights to Poland within 20 minutes, and of course all good Catholics must have some babies with them so there are lots of screams and baby buggies around. They still have the stupid system where they weight your hand luggage half way down the queue - well at least they seem to be somewhat sensible with it as they just skip several people whose luggage doesn’t look that heavy - luckily this includes me. Interestingly the weighting is a actually the bottleneck, not the actual security screening as right after this the pace picks up a lot and I am through in no time at all.

I buy some Swedish stuff I always need to bring to the office and head to the bar and tell the guy there “I need a beer!” - he misunderstands my point and asks whether I’m afraid of flying - “Not at all, it’s just the stupid queue that made me thirsty!” - He proceeds to tell me a story about once queuing for two and half hours at an US airport right after 9/11 but my mind is already fixated to the beer.

Well, it better be as the flight status changes to this right away:

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I perform the heroic (but foolhardy) act of downing my beer in three huge gulps and head to the gate to fix me a nice place in the queue - I got thrifty and decided to forgo priority boarding or extra legroom seat (it’s a bit too short flight for that).

Hmm, that flight number would be far more appropriate for a flight to MUC (or actually FMM as it is Wizz...):

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Some confused old German guy tries to repeatedly enter the gate - and refuses to believe that this is not his flight. He is holding a Ryanair boarding pass for a flight to LBC, yes, the gate is indeed the right one but his flight is an hour later... By the third time the expression on the gate agent’s face is quite priceless!

Queueing, frustration, queuing, frustration and some more pushing later I finally find myself out in the open air walking towards our ride. Interesting to see the signs in Polish:

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HA-LWC, a year-old bird and a new one for me.

Interestingly only the front doors are used today - maybe they have a shortage of airstairs:

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NYO - POZ
W61972
A320 HA-LWC
Seat 29A
13.31 - 14.43

I head towards the back, hoping to score an empty middle seat next to me, but, alas, that doesn’t happen. Load is good as usual, around 90% - mainly Polish with just a few Swedish pax around. The two seats next to me are occupied by a young Polish couple - the girl spends the whole flight reading her Bible (not exactly my choice of reading material, let me tell you that!) whereas the guy focuses on his two cellphones...

Push back is pretty much on time, with take off from 26 after holding short for a while for some traffic (but why is it going the wrong way?):

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Oxelösund - “The Arse of Sweden”:

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The route is down the east coast of Sweden:

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Gotland, with capital Visby just barely visible:

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Over the island of Öland:

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Across the Baltic Sea to make landfall to Poland:

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Slupsk (gotta love that name) with the Redzikowo airfield which was supposed to be a site of the planned US missile defense project, later canceled:

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Another city with interesting name - Pila and its airfield:

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The flight feels very short, with our descent starting just 40 minutes into it, followed by a lazy left hand turn which suggests that we are landing from the west.

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The Poles seem to be on a motorway building spree at the moment - no doubt buoyed by the EU and the rather well performing Polish economy:

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Sailboats:

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Touch down is on runway 10 just an hour after take off:

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I recently read about POZ starting an terminal expansion program - when I saw this I thought “Well, they sure need it”:

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At least they have back stairs here:

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Bye:

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A bus ride follows - for such a short distance, seriously? Oh, there IS a new terminal already - but why did we park so far away:

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But yes, they indeed are building a new expansion next to it.

Poznan

After exiting the baggage claim hall I buy some bus tickets from the kiosk and head out, where the next bus is just arriving. A hot, packed and somewhat frustrating ride later on the express bus L I step off at the terminus, the central station - well this looks more like an old, rundown movie theatre to me:

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Ok, it actually appears to be station after all:

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Some confusion follows trying to find my hotel, some two kilometers away. The streets are most definitely not in a grid pattern here, which confuses the heck out of me and my map printout doesn’t have any hint to its scale so something which I think was half a kilometer was actually just half a block... Finally after crashing a couple of wedding parties (seriously, they were quite a few of those, and I walked right through one reception in front of the church!) and walking through a creepy cemetery I end up in my hotel - an interesting relic from the communist times, Orbis Hotel Polonez. Orbis is the company having the Accor concession in Poland, they have a few hotels with their own name - I guess Accor was a bit too afraid to have these kind of hotels diluting their own brands (I still booked it through the Accor website, though...):



Still, it’s not a bad hotel, quite OK from the inside and for 40 EUR per night good value for money:

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Nice sunset from my window - lots of overflying traffic:

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I head to the city for some sunshine, beer, sightseeing and food:

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Interesting wooden belfry on this church:

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The Rynek - or old town square - a feature found in any self respecting Polish city:



Packed on this beautiful Saturday evening:

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These sign post thingies are somehow very fascinating - although they could’ve chosen a nicer place in Finland than JKL:

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These run down old apartment buildings remind me of NYC and other older American cities:

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The Warta river:

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Ostrów Tumski or “Cathedral Island” where the city was founded on:



Yes, they were quite a few wedding ceremonies around the city that day:

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A bit too hot for my traditional choice of headgear:

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Sunday 5.6.2011

Another morning when the earth’s (or should that be the bed’s?) gravitational pull seems to have doubled overnight so getting up is difficult - the lack of air conditioning and crap mattress made the night a rather restless one. After a while of gathering courage I jump the gun, shower and pack up and head downstairs to check out. The idea of walking all the way to the station for the (dirt cheap) bus back to the airport does not really apply to me, so I have the nice girl call me a taxi instead, which gets me there rather more comfortably and quickly and at 10 EUR including a decent tip is not that bad value for money either.

Poznan Airport

I did OLCI the last night from the hotel and even had a mobile board

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
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I did OLCI the last night from the hotel and even had a mobile boarding pass sent to my cell just in case, but a real boarding pass is always preferred of course. Two counters open for the morning service to Warsaw, with a huge queue in front of them. Well, it looks huge even though it is only a 40-seater plane - every single passenger (apart from me of course!) appears to have one cartfull of luggage! The last time I saw something like that was at the Philippine Airlines checkin queue at YYZ!

Interestingly there’s quite a large bunch of Vietnamese pax who seem to account for most of the luggage, no doubt connecting to the new LOT service to HAN. Quite a few people seem to be heading into America as well with the ORD, EWR and YYZ services.

Luckily there is a business class/premium counter which has just grandparents with their small granddaughter in front of me (heading to ATL via ORD, BTW) so I’m served rather soon. I ask the girl if it is normal to have passengers with so much luggage - she assures me that yes, and of course most of them are connecting to the long haul flights. I say: “Well, I think you soon need to have a second plane just for the luggage!” which she finds rather hilarious, hands me my boarding pass (and is a bit confused that I’m going only to WAW, I don’t think many people fly purely domestic flights here) and wishes me a nice flight.

I go upstairs to snap a photo of the quite nice and modern terminal:

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Security is empty, which it of course should be given that this is the only flight going out right now. Airside - this is quite a bold claim - and then again we are WITHIN the EU right now:

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There is a lounge here as well - just a separate room in the corner of the main waiting hall:

:

I assume correctly that there won’t be much in the way of food in the lounge so I buy a sandwich (which turns out to be disgusting) from the cafe bar and head to the lounge for some breakfast:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Poznan_Departure_6.jpg

Nice drinks selection here, and yes, I was right about the food:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Poznan_Departure_4.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Poznan_Departure_5.jpg

FIDS:

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Soon enough boarding is called, and we pack into a bus for a short ride to our waiting ride. Upon seeing the registration I almost burst out laughing:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Poznan_Departure_8.jpg

Yep, it’s SP-EDE. Hilarious for a Finn, probably not hilarious at all for anybody else. Google for “spede” and you might eventually understand...  http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Poznan_Departure_9.jpg

I’ve flown once before with EuroLOT, but that was on an ATR-72, so this 42-500 model is a new entry for my log.

POZ - WAW
LO3958 Operated by EuroLOT
ATR 42-500 SP-EDE
Seat 11D
8.56 - 9.49

A friendly but rather well experienced FA in the back galley is greeting passengers and handing out (only Polish) newspapers. There’s a bit younger colleague in the front of the cabin.

Quite well worn, leather seats, but okay for comfort:

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This bird is over 16 years old (must be one of the first -500 series!), and the seats definitely show its age:

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I’m originally seated in 10A, but after everybody has boarded (and with a load factor appearing 100%) the FA comes to me and my seat mate and asks us to switch to 11CD as there’s a young girl there and “children are not allowed on the last two rows of the cabin” - well that’s fine with me as I figured out that I’m on the wrong side for the good views over Poznan during take off. The friendly Polish man heading to ODS in Ukraine allows me to keep my window seat, thanks for that, mate. Cabin view from the new seat:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Poznan_Departure_13.jpg

We push back under our own engine power (love the ATRs for that!) four minutes early, but thanks to the flight deck wanting to backtrack all the way to the end of the runway before turning around for a runway 10 departure take off is a good five minutes later.

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The terminal:

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One of the new Euro 2012 stadiums:

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Very nice views over the city of Poznan:

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The station:

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The 31st Air Base (“31. Baza Lotnicza”) towards the southeast of the city, home to a squadron of F-16 fighters. Interestingly it was originally an airfield for a Focke-Wulf factory during WW2:

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The old town:

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Ostrów Tumski from above:

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Industry:

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Service commences right after the seat belt sign is switched off. First we are handed a waffle bar, followed by a choice of juice/water/coffee and tea:

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The Polish rural landscapes can best be described as “plain” - fields, fields, the occasional village or small town and some ugly industrial scars:

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Yes - more motorway construction:

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Our descent is announced and the seat belt sign switched on already around 25 minutes after take off, but nothing really happens until around fifteen minutes later when we start descending very rapidly for some nice views of the outskirts of Warsaw:

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I like the way how this forest mixes different shades of green:

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Yes, it’s an unfinished motorway:

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Idyllic:

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A cemetery - wouldn’t mind a final resting place near an approach path like this after I’ve drank my last beer:

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Our landing on runway 15 a bit over 45 minutes after take off is rather uneven - there seems to be quite a lot of side wind.

There’s rather lot of LOT here (sorry, couldn’t resist):

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Long haul:

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We get an apron parking position as expected, next to this stubby Austrian beauty:

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Contact Air not going tech today - operating for LX to ZRH:

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Warsaw Frederik Chopin Airport, take 1

A bus ride to Schengen arrivals follows. Everybody apart from one or two passengers heads for transit, which leads to another security screening. Afterwards the stairs upstairs dump us right in the middle of the airside area. I head to the nearby LOT transfer desk to get my onward boarding pass - the friendly young lad there gets bonus points for asking “Do you want your return boarding pass, too?”, very much appreciated thank you. My request for window seats is dealt with “You already have those assigned.” - “Well, they know me!”. I ask for directions to the LOT Lounge, thank him and head to the nearby lounge.

This is a very nice lounge - very stylish and large:

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Not sure if I agree with the fake waterfalls, though:

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As with all WAW (or Polish, for that matter) lounges - the drink selection is good but food is quite limited:

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They even have showers in the toilets - I’ll keep that in mind in the case I ever need to have one here:

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Nice retro posters:

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FIDS:

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After an hour of Internet time I end up chatting with an American guy sitting opposite to me. Quite a character - his last time in Poland was back in 1976 and now he has a monster layover until his flight to RZE in the evening - I try to suggest that he could head to the city but he’s not really in the mood. He just keeps complaining about the fact that he had to reclear security after his flight from ORD in the morning and they made him to check his other bag which “had too many electronic wires in it”... I try to explain that that’s pretty normal but he refuses to listen... A funny guy anyway, we trade some travel and life stories until it is time for me to head to my gate, so I wish him a nice onward travel and head for the gate.

Ok, looks like the expected E-jet, but I think that’s an E170 - this flight kept changing between that and the much preferred E175, but unfortunately ended up being the former:

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There’s a slight delay with boarding, but soon enough the gate is opened and we are free to walk downstairs to board... a bus! For a while I hope that we will be driven to another plane, hopefully an E175, but as soon as the bus leaves we make a detour and end up in front of the original plane, some 20 meters away, having driven maybe 100 meters to get there. Everyboy laughes at this - there’s a Spanish airline pilot in full duty uniform there who looks really surprised so I tell him: “You know why they do it - for job creation. This way the bus driver has a job to do!”, being Spanish I’m sure this is not that foreign to him an he seems to understand...

Soon the bus doors are opened. SP-LDE - at least it’s a new bird for me, having flown two LOT E170s previously:

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WAW - KTW
LO3887
E170 SP-LDE
Seat 5A
12.12 - 12.53

Again an older and a middle age FAs onboard this flight. One and half rows of business class with no passengers. Economy load is quite light as well, around 25 pax.

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For some reason a lady has the seat next to me, but after a little persuasion from my part she switches across the aisle. Good legroom here:

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In the welcome speech the lead FA welcomes us onboard “this Embraer 175” and announces a quick flight time of 30 minutes.

Pushback is seven minutes late, but a longish taxi to 15 follows, so we take off 13 minutes later. Hello:

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Another company 767:

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A LOT 737 is still missing from my log:

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Can’t have a TR without the Shamrock, can I:

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Hmm, what’s that airline - never heard about it:

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Slainte:

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Ahh, my favorite angle:

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That forest must be some kind of nature reserve:

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The safety card:

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Service is again the same waffle bar, but only water and juice are offered this time, I guess due to the shorter flight time with the jet:

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In no time at all the captain comes on, apologises for the short delay and says that we just left the cruising altitude of 8000 meters and will land at KTW in around 20 minutes, where the weather is “more cloudy than in Warsaw with a temperature of 28 degrees”. Sure looks a bit cloudy to me:

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Hmm, what’s that green stuff:

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KTW in the distance - looks like we are doing a downwind leg for an approach from the west:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Katowice_Approach_2.jpg

One more shot of the wing and winglet:

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Landing is on runway 09 after a flight time of only 28 minutes.

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When we are taxiing to our apron parking position I spot an all-white 738 in Spanish register:

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LOT Charters with a rather heavily delayed flight to Crete:

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Why are they all sitting there:

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I assume that the Spanish plane must be why the Spaniards are here (I noticed that the captain is accompanied by a bunch of FAs and the FO, but in civilian clothes). I ask the captain upon deboarding whether that plane is the reason he is here - he explains to me that yes, they are here to fly that plane to BUD, operating for Travel Service. I say that I thought it was a mechanical or something like that, but apparently not - this was all planned beforehand.

At first I thought this thermometer on top of the terminal building was wrong, but it really is this
hot outside:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Katowice_Approach_15.jpg

Very stuffy and oppressive and no wind at all. A sure sign for an upcoming thunderstorm!

Bye:

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Another short bus ride as seems to be the norm to arrivals:

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Katowice Airport

I head outside to shoot a photo of the Spanish plane - it’s EC-LKO, a bird who once flew for Air Berlin but nowadays is operated by the Gran Ganaria -based lease specialist Calima Aviation for Travel Service, just like the pilot told me. Interesting bird for sure:

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The terminal building:

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Mig-21 in the new “Urban jungle” camouflage scheme of the Polish Air Force - ideal for blending in with the graffiti-ridden streets of inner city trouble areas:

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I never really thought about leaving the airport - the city of Katowice is over 30 kilometers away and doesn’t exactly offer that much in the way of sightseeing. Sure, it is the center city of the largest metropolitan area in Poland (and one of the largest in the whole of the EU) with around 5 million people if you count the parts of Silesia around Ostrava in today’s Czech Republic, but it is also an industrial area owing much of its fortunes to rich coal deposits and I’m not in the mood for any more urban decay right now. Besides it is so hot and oppressive that alternating between the air conditioned terminal building, sitting outside in the sun and fetching cheap (less than 1 EUR per can) lager from the airport kiosks to keep up my liquid balance is just fine with me.

FIDS inside the terminal:

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Quite a nice and large terminal building, although at times it reminds me of a shopping mall more than an airport:

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Just like pretty much any airport in Poland there’s an observation deck offering views of the apron and runway - entry costs a staggering 1 PLN (around 0.25 EUR), but I decide to splurge. A Cityline CRJ-700 getting ready to depart to FRA:

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They had some sort of issues, as the plane was getting to push back with the tug attached they suddenly escorted two pax back to the terminal and the plane just sat there with the door open for the time I was watching.

The deck:

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Who’s that:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Poznan_06_2011/Katowice_Airport_11.jpg

Oh, hello, I believe I saw you at WAW:

User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
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After a while I decide to get some lunch inside - do they hand out a lot of these:

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Quite interesting, but yummy:

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This was a surprise - why the heck are the trays carrying Swedish ads:

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After the meal I decide to head airside to the lounge, and this is when the fun starts. I’m refused entry to security on the grounds I’m too early (around two and half hours before departure). I try to argue that I want to go to the lounge, but the guy plays the “No speak English” card on me.

I head to the check in counters where the LOT agents are checking in an Eurowings flight to DUS and ask the girl there what’s going on. She rolls her eyes and says that “The security people only allow entrance an hour before departure.”
- “But I’d like to go to the lounge!”
- “Sorry, we cannot do anything, it’s the security.”
- “Well, they’re the military and have the guns so we better obey! Dzienkuje!”
- “Sorry sir.”

I have to admit defeat, so I splurge another Zloty for a second visit to the observation deck. I like the graphic image they have adopted on the signage and everything - reminds me of the one used by Cologne airport:

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Another Enter entering the picture (pun again intended):

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My Spanish friends finally pushing back:

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Never heard of this (Slovenian) airline before:

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Bye, mate:

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Finally, around an hour and quarter before departure I head back downstairs. Again I’m denied entry, despite the whole checkpoint being completely empty - this is getting ridiculous! This time two pax are already queuing on a closed lane, and they look like frequent fliers so I decide to join them. Sure enough, at T minus one hour and five minutes (whoa, they are being generous here!) they open that very lane and put up a special sign saying “Warszawa”. Security is very tight, the guys spend a long time going through my liquids baggy and scrutinizing every single item in there - I think Randy, the American from the WAW lounge had a point about the security things in Poland after all!

The lounge is right next door to the entrance to the airside area - both of the pax who were already queuing head in before me, so looks like I judged them right. The woman who was the first one and saw me trying to go through earlier says to me “Welcome to Katowice!”. I ask what that was all about and she gives me a long explanation - I miss most of it but somehow I figure out it is a dispute between the military (who run security at Polish airports), LOT and the airport companies which has resulted all passengers on domestic flights being refused entry to airside if they are earlier than an hour. Apparently it is the same deal in Gdansk as well, but not in Warsaw. Oh yeah, politics, gotta love them.

A small but perfectly delightful lounge:

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Staffed bar, with a nice drink selection:

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Ok, that looks like my ride - can’t see the reg though:

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Soon enough boarding is called, another bus ride from a bus gate downstairs - is that really a surprise anymore? A short ride later we stop in front of another EuroLOT ATR, luckily sistership of the one from this morning, and thus a new one for my log.

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KTW - WAW
LO3882 Operated by EuroLOT
ATR 42-500 SP-EDF
Seat 4A
17.40 - 18.33

This ship has completely different seats than the one this morning:

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This shot was taken after the flight at WAW:

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Quite decent load, 80% or so. Again I manage to persuade the Greek guy next to me to move across the aisle to an empty block of two seats for some extra comfort. The flight time is announced as 50 minutes.

Push back is five minutes late for no apparent reason, this time with a tractor instead of our own engine power.

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Oh dear, looks like the inevitable thunderstorm is coming nearer:

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Take off is from 09.

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Service is - yes, you guessed it - another waffle bar and water/juice/coffee and tea:

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In no time at all WAW airport appears on our left, and since even the seat belt sign is not turned on yet it looks like we’ll be doing a full tour of the northern Warsaw suburbs and landing again on 15:

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The Vistula river and its bridges:

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Downtown Warsaw:

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Turning around:

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Descending:

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The general aviation airfield Warszawa-Babice:

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A closer look at the skyscrapers of downtown:

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Landing is on 15 after a flight time of 47 minutes - love this shot of our shadow:

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Well hello again:

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Bye:

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Warsaw Frederik Chopin Airport, take 2

Another remote stand, another bus ride to the terminal. Since I saw no other transfer facilities than the LOT one earlier I decide to head to the main check in counters instead of transfer. I did OLCI the previous day, but again have no boarding passes to show and I’m sure they want to see something like that in the lounges.

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No sign of airBaltic in the nice, new terminal - of course they are being cheap and are using the old terminal:

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Nobody at the check in counters, so I get my two boarding passes in no time at all. I ask about the load - “around 30 pax” says the nice enough young girl and wishes me a nice flight. Security is completely empty here and does not give me any nonsense, nice for a change. I do the obligatory bit of shopping for some cheap, good Polish vodka and decide to head to the Preludium lounge, the only WAW Schengen lounge I’ve yet to visit. For some reason BT uses all the three common use lounges, and those are also accessible with Diners...

Ok from the inside - at this point I realize that the offerings here are exactly the same as in the LOT lounge this morning:

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After some time here I decide to head closer to the gate in the new part of the terminal, do an additional bit of shopping and head for a final drink to the Ballada lounge:

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I’ve been here earlier courtesy of Finnair (not surprisingly there are a bunch of Finns around, but their flight to HEL is called right after I get there) and it still is as bad as I remembered it to be. Small, no windows (it is in the middle of the terminal in the shopping area), and rather crowded:

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And yes, exactly the same drink and snack offerings... Luckily boarding is called right after so I head to the gate, together with somebody who turns out to be the only business class passenger on this flight. He also delays the closing of the gate for a while as he decides to have an all-so-important phone call just before he is supposed to enter the gate.

Yes, another turboprop, another apron position, another bus ride.

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YL-BAV, only my third flight with her. Interestingly my earlier one was exactly an year ago, on this very same day.

WAW - RIX
BT464
F50 YL-BAV
Seat 14D
20.27 - 22.50

I’m quite surprised to see only a single FA serving this flight, all the other BT Fokker flights I’ve been on have always had two FAs. I later ask the girl about it and she assures me that it is completely legal (I know, thankyouverymuch!) and says “Get used to it!”, so I guess it is some sort of a new cost cutting measure.

The “Eau de Baltic Fokker” is particularly strong on this bird, they really should do something about it!

A second bus arrives with exactly one late passenger, and right after the doors are closed, the flight time announced as one and half hours, engines started and we start taxiing, 12 minutes late.

Some moody photos with the sun going down:

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Take off is again on runway 15:

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I promise this will be the last photo of unfinished Polish motorways in this report:

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Maintenance depot of the Warsaw Metro:

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Overflying the Vistula again:

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13B’s inflight entertainment consists of him going through a half a litre bottle of vodka during the flight, concealed in its duty free bag - reminds me of the winos in the US and their brown paper bags... By the time we get off the plane in Riga the guy is wasted!

Descent starts at T+1h, with landing at Riga runway 36 around 1h30mins after take off.

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Riga Airport

Yet another bus ride to the terminal, during which I spot my upcoming plane at the gate - this time the “Midnight Fokker” has been replaced by the “Midnight Dash”.

Still some time to go, so I head to the lounge, ask the girl about the load up to HEL and am surprised to learn that there are 79 passengers booked on that flight - definitely a reason to use a Dash!

Ahh, my favorite newspaper, yay:

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After boarding is called I grab the paper to go - they had a large stack and besides the day is already turning into the next one and today’s news are tomorrow’s fish wrappings!

Unfortunately the honors are being served by YL-BAE, BT’s first Dash today, so the one I’ve logged most flights with - this will be my fourth one.

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RIX - HEL
BT329
Dash 8 Q-400 YL-BAE
Seat 21D
00.02 - 01.02

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ZZZZZ. That’s all I have to say. I barely make a note that we take off from 36 and land on 15 an hour later, apart from that it’s sleepy time.

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Another bus ride brings us to HEL T1 and the final bus of this trip brings me home half an hour later, concluding yet another weekend on the road for me.

Conclusions

Poznan was a surprisingly pleasant city with some nicely reconstructed buildings in the old city. A Hungarian friend of mine spent a longer time there on business some ten years ago and his description wasn’t exactly flattering, but I guess things change. Then again our perspectives might be quite different as well...

A bunch of good flights with airBaltic - still my favorite airline out there for many reasons. Those Fokkers are getting downright nasty, though. Please replace the seats!

An okay, very cheap and packed short flight with Wizz, no complaints apart from the Skavsta airport, I don’t really like it that much.

LOT and EuroLOT domestic flights were nice, short hops with rather affordable tickets. Friendly crews, pretty much on time performance and okay service for such short flights, although some variety would be welcome...

Finally the security situation at Katowice airport was simply disastrous - I don’t know what political games they are playing but they really should clean this mess - otherwise it was a surprisingly nice airport but that whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth!


Two weeks to go until the next trip, this time to spend a weekend in Trondheim, a city I’ve never visited before despite flying through the airport a good number of times: HEL-OSL-TRD-OSL-CPH-HEL.

Happy Contrails!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6824 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8333 times:

Hi FlyingFinn,

really interesting report about Polish carriers. I have wanted to try LOT (or a combo with EuroLOT) for a long time, but it never worked out in the end.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I still can’t get used to this sight - what should I call the company - “Continented” or “Unitental”?

Well, I guess we have to get used to this "new" United...which is not easy.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This bird is over 16 years old (must be one of the first -500 series!)

Congratulations, my friend - this is the ATR 42-500 prototype, almost 17 years old.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Hmm, what’s that airline - never heard about it:

Polish holiday carrier, already operating six 737-400s and two 737-800s.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Never heard of this (Slovenian) airline before:

Slovakian holiday carrier, equipped with one 737-300 and one 737-400.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This ship has completely different seats than the one this morning:

It's a former Eurowings/Contact Air aircraft. The other one has always been operated by LOT/EuroLOT.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5173 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8033 times:

Hi, P.,

what a story.
Real good to see some polish action, also on schedule here, well, next week, so it seems.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
At least I was pretty sensible and went to bed very early, so waking up at the markuslike hour of 3.30 is surprisingly painless

Have a look at the actual time, oh well I should be sleeping, it´s exactly my wake up time the upcoming morning!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
YL-BAS this time, my eight flight on this bird.

Booked the midday F50 on the same route some hours ago, I will tell you more by mail.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Contact Air not going tech today - operating for LX to ZRH:

You know, from time to time only.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Mig-21 in the new “Urban jungle” camouflage scheme of the Polish Air Force - ideal for blending in with the graffiti-ridden streets of inner city trouble areas:

Hah, makes me laugh.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Two weeks to go until the next trip, this time to spend a weekend in Trondheim, a city I’ve never visited before despite flying through the airport a good number of times: HEL-OSL-TRD-OSL-CPH-HEL.

Looking forward to that, you know.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7941 times:

Hi FlyingFinn,

another interesting story and some very nice pictures from your flights around Poland.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Never heard of this (Slovenian) airline before:

It's Slovakian, but I cannot blame you for mixing us up, a lot of people do - the flags are almost the same, the name is almost the same, but usualy it is the other way around, since we are a lot smaller  

Have a good trip to Trondheim,

Blaž



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User currently offlinejoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7605 times:

A very entertaining report to read. Nice mix of places/airlines/planes.

Well done.


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7567 times:

It's always a pleasure to read these trip reports. Thanks!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
These sign post thingies are somehow very fascinating - although they could’ve chosen a nicer place in Finland than JKL:

These are the twin cities of Poznan!

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8561 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7544 times:
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Hi P,

Lot's of nice flying and a bit of sight seeing too, can't be bad - weather looked lovely too!

I've been to WAW once for a spotting trip, the new terminal was not quite finished then, perhaps I'll return when LOT finally take some 787's, will make it a more valid reason to visit.

Interesting the access issue for security, like you I'm always keen to arrive early and visit the lounge or find a place to do a little spotting.

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27106 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7448 times:

Hey great report. Love the LOT lounge looks a big improvement on the old one ( which I believe is the one in the end of this report ) . Have not been to WAW in ages and the E Jet pics make me want to go again. The DUB-WAW EJet service with LOT is sadly missed. I guess the only chance for me is to get a connecter via UK.

Those B767's are still going strong! I bet LO cant wait to get their new metal. It will really improve the product.


Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1219 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7355 times:

I think Poznan was part of Germany before the war.

User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I still can’t get used to this sight - what should I call the company - “Continented” or “Unitental”?

Haha, either of those would be more interesting that the current mismash. How about "Contented"!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There’s a huge scrum at the gate and for some reason they have this very stupid system where the gate has two doors and a holding pen in-between. The outer doors only open if the inner door is closed, but thanks to the heaving mass (with quite a few Polish ladies, yep, NYO is a large Wizz destination and Sweden is very popular with them!) of humanity people keep pushing against them and the outer doors cannot open. Some frustration later somebody starts finally yelling some sense into people and somehow I end up with one of the last seats in the bus - I think around half the pax were left to wait for the next service half an hour later (and one which would’ve been quite a close shave for me!).

Same thing happened when trying to get on the bus to the Stockholm ferry terminal. Far too many people for the number of seats on the bus, and was completely gridlocked. Had to wait for the next bus, which luckily came both early and empty.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Still, it’s not a bad hotel, quite OK from the inside and for 40 EUR per night good value for money:

The beds looks quite comfy

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
These sign post thingies are somehow very fascinating - although they could’ve chosen a nicer place in Finland than JKL:

Well, the UK got Nottinghamshire, which is a pretty random location. Perhaps they are cities with high levels of Poznan expats?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The lounge is right next door to the entrance to the airside area - both of the pax who were already queuing head in before me, so looks like I judged them right. The woman who was the first one and saw me trying to go through earlier says to me “Welcome to Katowice!”. I ask what that was all about and she gives me a long explanation - I miss most of it but somehow I figure out it is a dispute between the military (who run security at Polish airports), LOT and the airport companies which has resulted all passengers on domestic flights being refused entry to airside if they are earlier than an hour. Apparently it is the same deal in Gdansk as well, but not in Warsaw. Oh yeah, politics, gotta love them.

Not a good situation - seems very petty and unecessary.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Service is - yes, you guessed it - another waffle bar and water/juice/coffee and tea:

I bet that staff get more bored serving it that you do eating it!



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User currently offlinetobbry From Sweden, joined May 2008, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7204 times:

Thanks again for a nice report. And as always, I enjoy reading report containing Arlanda!  You are right about that Skavsta sholuld not been called Stockholm. It's a different city! I wonder how many pax that have been fooled...

But I'm heading there on Tuesday for a day of flying in Italy..

Thanks!

Tobias


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6750 times:

Hi guys,

Good to see so many comments already, thanks!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
I have wanted to try LOT (or a combo with EuroLOT) for a long time, but it never worked out in the end.

Well, they have lowered their prices a lot recently, so I'm sure you can find something good. As you saw the domestic fares can be very cheap and I've seen flights between various airports and FRA/AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC for around 50-60 EUR. I really need to go back soon to have another try with the E175!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Congratulations, my friend - this is the ATR 42-500 prototype, almost 17 years old.

Thanks, I never knew! A funny reg AND a special plane - I'm on a roll here!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Booked the midday F50 on the same route some hours ago, I will tell you more by mail.

You sure did, but you got your days all wrong!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Slovakian holiday carrier, equipped with one 737-300 and one 737-400.
Quoting SloAir (Reply 5):
It's Slovakian, but I cannot blame you for mixing us up, a lot of people do - the flags are almost the same, the name is almost the same, but usualy it is the other way around, since we are a lot smaller

I knew that, mea culpa. Must be a Freudian slip since I'll be visiting Slovenia again this summer...

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 7):
These are the twin cities of Poznan!

So it appears.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):
I've been to WAW once for a spotting trip, the new terminal was not quite finished then, perhaps I'll return when LOT finally take some 787's, will make it a more valid reason to visit.

Where could you spot back in the days? The old terminal doesn't exactly offer many views outside and since they had security control in the gate areas it was not like you could just enter a random gate to spot? Or was there some sort of observation deck there?

Quoting oa260 (Reply 9):
Hey great report. Love the LOT lounge looks a big improvement on the old one ( which I believe is the one in the end of this report )

Oh yes, it was back then. I once had a monster 5 hour layover there with no lounge access so I paid around 30 EUR to access the lounge at the other end of the old terminal which was quite identical to that one.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
I think Poznan was part of Germany before the war.

Yes, known as "Posen". Just like many places in the region like Stettin, Breslau/Wroclav etc.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
How about "Contented"!

Or just simply "Wasted" (opportunity)?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
The beds looks quite comfy

Looks are deceiving, comfortable it wasn't. Rock hard mattress.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
Well, the UK got Nottinghamshire, which is a pretty random location. Perhaps they are cities with high levels of Poznan expats?

Twin cities, as noted above.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6596 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6620 times:

Hi FlyingFInn!

Thanks for another nice report with nice pictures!

I agree with as well; NYO is Nykoping and cetainly not Stockholm.

"Warzawa" is how Warzaw is spelled in Swedish as well as in Polish so a dual purpose.

Legroom seems really tight on the ATR but better on the EMB-170. Nice that you got different registrations on your Polish domestic flights.

TWA also used to say "Welcome to Stochkholm Arlianda International Airport"; there used to be a sign like that on top of Terminal 5 curbside but think they took it down when the name of the terminal changed to Terminal 5.

As far as the new United Airlines livery, just a matter of getting used to. I'm finally getting used to the "new" AY livery (no billboard titles) and then they change it alrady. I was so used to the livery on their DC-9-51s with the blue cheatline........

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User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6252 times:

Hello FF - some fantastic shots of your recent travels in Poland. What a great weekend for flying. I've still yet to fly with Air Baltic - you seem to be their number 1 passenger!

I had no idea there was so much highway construction going on in Poland. I guess they are in "catch up" mode - although travelling around Poland, including by rail, is fairly easy. I remember taking a train from Krakow up to Warsaw and back and that was an interesting experience - which of course included at least some of the journey in the carriage/compartment with a Polish nun. There were so many of them in Krakow !

Thanks for your latest report. P/jet



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User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6240 times:

Hi Flying Finn,

I enjoyed reading your report because it amazes me how easy it is to travel to so many different countries and with different airlines over a simple weekend. In comparison, I could do PER - SYD or PER - SIN in a weekend and still not see much  

Having visited WAW and POZ previously was what first attracted me to your report and I enjoyed seeing places that I visited back in 2007. One of the best pizzas that I have eaten was in a side street just off the Rynek in Poznan, much better (I am sorry to say to our Italian colleagues) than anything I had in Italy. The polish cavalry rode through the square wearing the same sort of uniforms they had pre-WW2, though I expect that they have better equipment today.

The other reason that I was attracted was that I wanted to see if LOT was involved in your travel plans. I had planned to travel with them last year but had to cancel due to that dreaded volcano. So it was interesting to see what I missed.

Thank you for sharing because although I can't add anything positive to your post, it did bring back pleasant memories.

Best wishes,
Quokka.


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8561 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6225 times:
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Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):
I've been to WAW once for a spotting trip, the new terminal was not quite finished then, perhaps I'll return when LOT finally take some 787's, will make it a more valid reason to visit.

Where could you spot back in the days? The old terminal doesn't exactly offer many views outside and since they had security control in the gate areas it was not like you could just enter a random gate to spot? Or was there some sort of observation deck there?

- Hi P, the old terminal building has/had an observation deck, I may have done a TR, it was a few years ago now so might be hard to find.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z287/BA319131/Poland/Picture047.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z287/BA319131/Poland/Picture002.jpg

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6164 times:

Hi Flying Finn,

Very interesting read, as always. Glad you enjoyed your flights within Poland.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
I think Poznan was part of Germany before the war.

Yes, known as "Posen". Just like many places in the region like Stettin, Breslau/Wroclav etc.

No. Unlike Szczecin & Wrocław, Poznan was not part of Germany before the WW2.

Regards,

SPLTA


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6145 times:

Hi P.,

Another great adventure with interesting geography lesson.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
for the grand price of 99 SEK (around 11 EUR) all-in.

Wow, no other airline can top that yet!  Wow!



Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
so waking up at the markuslike hour of 3.30 is surprisingly painless - of course the fact that it is summertime in Finland and thus already daylight outside helps a lot! No wonder many foreigners suffer from insomnia in the Finnish summer...
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, this is June in Finland, 4 AM:

The charm of the northern hemisphere.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I knew that the plane comes from that particular flight, but I never knew that even the crew is the same! Apparently they only operate BT329/BT330, have four hours off in the middle and can then go home to sleep after arriving at RIX. These BT crew shifts are really weird!

I would rather call it inhuman.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
plus some excellent reading material:

It looks an exciting article indeed. The end of Aids?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
YL-BBQ

Let the summer begin with BBQ!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
YL-BBI, still not going to BBI but OSL instead next to us:

She will do the inaugural flight to BBI, don’t you think?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“Continented” or “Unitental”?

How about “Dental”?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Interesting patchwork on this Thomas Cook A330, still showing through the “Garuda Indonesia” titles and the orange of MyTravel:

That is what I call hybrid livery!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
By the third time the expression on the gate agent’s face is quite priceless!

Tell me! Tell me!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the girl spends the whole flight reading her Bible (not exactly my choice of reading material, let me tell you that!) whereas the guy focuses on his two cellphones...

Not his and hers?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A bit too hot for my traditional choice of headgear:

Very nice summer hat of yours!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
The last time I saw something like that was at the Philippine Airlines checkin queue at
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Yep, it’s SP-EDE

Polish counterpart of A6-EDE.



Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Why are they all sitting there:

Perhaps they were waiting for a celebrity to come.   



Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Quite interesting, but yummy:

What was it with the creamy sauce?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
I ask what that was all about and she gives me a long explanation - I miss most of it but somehow I figure out it is a dispute between the military (who run security at Polish airports), LOT and the airport companies which has resulted all passengers on domestic flights being refused entry to airside if they are earlier than an hour. Apparently it is the same deal in Gdansk as well, but not in Warsaw. Oh yeah, politics, gotta love them.

I prefer becoming a traveler to a politician.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
He also delays the closing of the gate for a while as he decides to have an all-so-important phone call just before he is supposed to enter the gate.

He just knew that he was the only premium passenger on board and made the most advantage of it!

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo

[Edited 2011-06-12 11:40:07]


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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6129 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

As always a great tripreport! Made my evening!
Back in 1998 i flew LOT to Thailand, but i don't remember much of that since i was just a little kid back then! But your experience with them on this report seems good.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Just before landing connecting gate information is read out as has become the norm on BT lately (and something I like a lot - SAS usually does this at CPH as well).

I fly KRN-ARN alot (i study in Kiruna and my family lives in Stockholm), and maybe 25% of the times they tell you about connections at ARN. And like you, i like it aswell, a nice touch!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
This was a surprise - why the heck are the trays carrying Swedish ads:

Haha, odd!

Martin


User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6040 times:

Hi P.

Another marathon weekend for you and a very interesting report provided.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
They have some sinful looking donuts, so I fix up a breakfast of champions, plus some excellent reading material:

My kind of "on the road" breakfast.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Three ferries heading into Stockholm, one after another:

Talk about threading the eye of a needle.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, they were quite a few wedding ceremonies around the city that day:

Nice to see a London cab getting a new lease of life.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
One and half rows of business class with no passengers. Economy load is quite light as well, around 25 pax.

I love the look of these LO E-JET cabins. Kind of plain looking but quite stylish.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After the meal I decide to head airside to the lounge, and this is when the fun starts. I’m refused entry to security on the grounds I’m too early (around two and half hours before departure). I try to argue that I want to go to the lounge, but the guy plays the “No speak English” card on me.

Crazy talk, but you can't really argue at a bloke with a gun. He has the upper hand in any situation.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Some moody photos with the sun going down:

Love it mate. Very good shooting.


Thanks for sharing this detailed report P.

Cheers, Lee.


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4273 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Hi P.,

a nice read, but a bit long also... so many pics from Poland   I've never been to that country, but your experiences with the people and at the airport completely fits my impressions and opinions so far. It's not at a high position for me personally.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Apparently they only operate BT329/BT330, have four hours off in the middle and can then go home to sleep after arriving at RIX. These BT crew shifts are really weird!

Weird? No, don't think so. It's clever. They apparently just work a normal schedule like I do at work called 'nightshift' (e.g. 2200-0600 or 2300-0700), or something similar. It saves BT some hotel cost and crew is ontime at the aircraft (no problems with transportation from hotel to airport, or overslept crew).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
the FA comes to me and my seat mate and asks us to switch to 11CD as there’s a young girl there and “children are not allowed on the last two rows of the cabin”

Hmm, assume their groundstaff makes a mistake then upon check-in of this girl or the flight attendant is just wrong (which I think she is).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
I’m refused entry to security on the grounds I’m too early (around two and half hours before departure). I try to argue that I want to go to the lounge, but the guy plays the “No speak English” card on me.

I head to the check in counters where the LOT agents are checking in an Eurowings flight to DUS and ask the girl there what’s going on. She rolls her eyes and says that “The security people only allow entrance an hour before departure.”
- “But I’d like to go to the lounge!”
- “Sorry, we cannot do anything, it’s the security.”
- “Well, they’re the military and have the guns so we better obey! Dzienkuje!”
- “Sorry sir.”

Fail! And I would've expected the groundstaff to stand up and make arrangements for you isn't it? If people from the army with guns cannot talk/discuss/understand, then in what time do we live? It seems Poland has a long way ahead...



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5744 times:

Hi guys,

Thanks for the additional comments!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
"Warzawa" is how Warzaw is spelled in Swedish as well as in Polish so a dual purpose.

Oh, I didn't know that! Live and learn.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 15):
I've still yet to fly with Air Baltic - you seem to be their number 1 passenger!

Well, I've logged a bit over 100 legs with them - and love the company very much.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 15):
I had no idea there was so much highway construction going on in Poland. I guess they are in "catch up" mode - although travelling around Poland, including by rail, is fairly easy.

Well, the road infrastructure they inherited from the communist times was pretty dismal, so there's quite a lot of catching up to do! But with some good support from the EU and a pretty solid economy they can do quite a lot to improve it.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 15):
carriage/compartment with a Polish nun. There were so many of them in Krakow !

Well, actually there was a nun onboard the POZ - WAW flight!

Quoting SPLTA (Reply 18):
No. Unlike Szczecin & Wrocław, Poznan was not part of Germany before the WW2.

Sorry about that, you are of course right.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 19):
She will do the inaugural flight to BBI, don’t you think?

Sure hope so.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 19):
Quite interesting, but yummy:
What was it with the creamy sauce?

Chicken breast with some interesting stuffings.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 21):
I love the look of these LO E-JET cabins. Kind of plain looking but quite stylish.

You should try them. M&M is LOT's "home" FFP, so this way you could pick up some cheap qualifying segments for 20 EUR a pop.


User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5743 times:

Hi Petteri,

and thanks for yet another very interesting routing.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
out to catch the bus to the airport - luckily they nowadays run all throughout the night

Yes, I think these departures have been added quite recently. I noticed them yesterday while waiting for the bus on the airport. Still a number of months ago a flight with arrival time to Helsinki around 01.00 was no chance (not a thought of paying 40-50 EUR for the taxi ride) but now it seems possible with the bus running every 30 minutes or so.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
there’s a surprising number of people there already - most of them seem to be queuing for the Norwegian check in (with the kiosks standing empty...)

Oh dear, what a classic...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another BT Fokker, another musky smell - the seats should really be thrown out and replaced with new ones if BT is going to stick with these Fokkers in the years to come. Who knows what kind of alien lifeforms live inside the padding and what kind of nasty things have been spilled on them over the years.

Yep, you can not board one of the BT Fokkers without noticing their signature smell. In January I first flew with the F50 HEL-RIX and then changed for the Dash for RIX-TMP-RVN and yes - the contrasts were, well, quite big.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Some pretty views of the Jurmala beaches and western Latvia after take off:

Really nice scenery, hope to go there some day!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yep, it’s SP-EDE.

That made my day!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
YL-BAV, only my third flight with her. Interestingly my earlier one was exactly an year ago, on this very same day.

Perhaps BT is trying to make something special for such a loyal customer? Who knows  

Thanks once again for the story!
717Flyer


25 Luxair747SP : Hi P. very nice TR about Poland and the domestic flights there. It seems like Lot offers a good service for a very nice fare, didnt knew before that t
26 Kuba74 : Hi, great report, thanks for sharing it. I'm glad you had nice time in my hometown Poznan. SP-EDE you' ve been on is actually one of the -500 series p
27 Post contains images MH017 : Petteri, Good to see this TR of you again; again, my appologies for 'pressing' you to publish it as soon as you could on FB ! I really liked your pict
28 JL418 : Hi Petteri, Thanks for your TR! I have developed a sort of love for Polish aviation after a gorgeous experience last summer and it’s always great to
29 Post contains images sultanils : Hello Petteri! After a short holiday in France, I'm back in business and your report was on my to-do list. A nice story on your Polish adventure and s
30 LXM83 : Hi Flying Finn! Great report once again! Wow, that's great. Some of the lowest I've seen since the FR 0.01 EUR flights in 2009. Always amazes me how f
31 parton87 : Hello Petteri! Thanks for a good report. Also for some nice pictures of Poland. Nice to see LOT again. I flew them two years ago ARN-WAW-ARN and liked
32 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi folks, thanks for the comments - always appreciated! Actually those have been around for a few years now - trust me, I live in Vantaa so I know. Be
33 Post contains images accelahpp8 : It's the exact opposite for me : I've just flown this aircraft and none of others LOT's 737. :P Very nice trip : many different aircrafts many differ
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