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Planes, Ice And The Midnight Sun; Greenland! Pt 1  
User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1844 posts, RR: 42
Posted (3 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 13260 times:
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Hello all! Welcome to another one of my trip reports. This will be part 1 of 3 about my recent vacation to Greenland. Because of the many pictures I have, and because of 12 flights to cover, I have decided to make a 3 part report. In this part I will describe my flight on KL to CPH, and the Air Greenland flight to Kangerlussuaq. I hope you’ll enjoy reading it!

Planes, Ice and the Midnight sun; Greenland! Part one: Getting there

In late January, I started thinking about my summer vacation. I’d been to the USA 8 times now, and while I love it there, I wanted to do something different this year. I thought it be nice to head East for a change, and started looking into Japan as my 2011 summer destination. In a random conversation on the anet chat, someone mentioned Greenland. I’d been to Iceland once before, and have always liked the arctic stuff. Curiously I started looking into Greenland trips, a place I had always wanted to see. I found a lot of pricey organized tours by Danish travel agents, which weren’t really to my liking. I found out however that I could very easily just make my own program, see more cities, log more flights, and actually save some money by not using a travel agent!

From Amsterdam, there are two options to get to Greenland. Either head to KEF on FI, and change planes to either GL to Nuuk, or NY to another Greenlandic destination, or to CPH and onwards on GL to SFJ. I had already tried FI and NY in the past and was more eager to get on the GL 330, and decided to fly from CPH instead. After some research I decided to start in Ilulissat, onwards to Nuuk, and end in Kangerlussuaq.

Domestic travel in Greenland is either by plane or by boat, as there are no roads between cities. And naturally, I wasn’t going by boat. GL operates 5 of the rare DHC-7 “Dash 7”s. I just had to get a few flights on those! However GL has started to replace the aging DH7 by the DHC-8-200Q, a type which I also hadn’t logged. A lot of domestic flights in Greenland have a stopover in another city, and naturally I wasn’t going to fly any non-stop flights. You could basically make it as crazy as you want, GL’s website allows you to sometimes fly via 4 stops. This is however rather pricey and after a lot of consideration I booked the following legs. I chose KLM to CPH as they were the cheapest (I had some vouchers left);

AMS-CPH (KL 733)
CPH-SFJ (GL 332)
SFJ-JEG-JAV (GL DH7)
JAV-JHS-GOH (GL DH2)
GOH-JSU-SFJ (GL DH7)
SFJ-CPH (GL 332)
CPH-AMS (738)

A total of 10 flights planned, including 4 on the DH7! Not bad I thought. GL leaves CPH early in the morning, and so I decided to stay the night in CPH. I wanted to arrive in CPH in the afternoon, to do some sightseeing there as well. The mosquito season in Greenland starts in July, and as I wanted to avoid that I decided to go in early June. All the hotels still had availability. After a long couple of months, the time was finally there, and I was finally heading for Greenland! The planned 733 had unfortunately changed to a 738, something I had anticipated. On the 6th of June my dad dropped me off at AMS for my KLM flight. After exchanging some euro’s to Danish Kroners (the DKK still doesn’t make sense to me after 2 weeks) I headed to the C concourse, where most of KL’s Schengen flights depart. A nice blue 738 was waiting for me, and I took a seat with some nice ramp views.

PH-BXU being prepped
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A rare visitor in the background
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And a 767 meeting!
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A big relief to see my suitcase being loaded, though I would have been interested in KLMs efforts to deliver my suitcase to JAV.
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Using the only glass jetbridge at AMS
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Boarding process was smooth, as Schiphol Airport does give KLM 2 boarding pass scanners at each gate (something a lot of other airlines can only hope for) I found out that it was a full flight. I had an assigned seat though so no hurry for me to board. There were several crew members throughout the cabin who all greeted me and seemed friendly.

AMS-CPH / 6-6-11
KL1129 operated by KLM
Boeing 737-8BK (12th time on type)
PH-BXU “Albatros/Albatross”
Seat 22F


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Photo © Leonard Ortuso



An ontime pushback, and only a short taxi to the “kaagbaan”
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Take-off video
http://youtu.be/UI5PRqI_MHg

Climb out over Hoofddorp


And the “polderbaan”
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I was slightly disappointed by the legroom, the seats itself were comfy though
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Spotless cabin
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Only the choice of sweet or savory cookies. KLM, I wish you would serve sandwiches more often!
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You have to love the KL 738 winglets though
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After a short and uneventful cruise we descended into CPH


Approach and landing video;
http://youtu.be/KOFarRKHnfA

Loved to see some SK heavies!
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Welcome to Copenhagen
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Nice architecture


I had been to CPH twice before, but never in Terminal A. It was a pleasure being here again and I have to say I really love the airport. Unfortunately it took well over half an hour for the bags to arrive on the baggage belt. Afterwards I took the train to Orestad, and walked to the Cabinn Metro hotel. The hotel was reasonably affordable and is only a 5-10 minute train ride from the airport. After dropping off my stuff I headed back to the train station and met with friend and fellow anetter “CamiloA380” for some sightseeing in CPH. Last time I was here the mermaid was in a museum and so I wanted to see it this time.

In the evening Camilo and I said goodbye and I headed back to the hotel. It was a rather small, but functional and clean room. I couldn’t get to sleep however, and I had a long day the next morning!
My GL flight to SFJ would leave at 9 in the morning, and I wanted to get there at 7 latest to check in my bag. Thankfully the Cabinn Metro hotel offers breakfast from 5 in the morning, and I left the hotel a quarter past 6 to head to the airport. I wanted to get the 0627 train, but when I got to the station at 0620 a delayed earlier train showed up, so I got to CPH well in time.

GL check in, like most airlines, is located in Terminal 2. I think T3 is only for SAS and friends, and T1 for the domestic flights. There was a small ticket office of GL and 3 check in desks open, with no line whatsoever. My baggage was checked in all the way through to JAV and the friendly lady handed me the boarding cards. GL allows you to select seats on the 330 flights and so I had reserved my seats months ago. In all the check in process took less than 1 minute. There was hardly a line at security and I made it airside around 7 o clock. GL’s sole 332 usually spends the night at CPH at a remote spot, and I took a seat at the end of the B concourse to get some pictures of the plane being towed to the gate. I spent the time doing some reading and listening to the concert of JT8 engines everywhere around me. Sure enough, after a while I spotted a large red bus being towed!

She looks great!
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I just love this livery


At the gate
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Nice line up of tails


Gate info
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There was an announcement that the jetbridge was malfunctioning which would result in a small boarding delay. Nobody seemed to really care. About 20 minutes prior to departure we were allowed to board. I was very excited to fly Air Greenland! I was greeted at the door by 2 friendly crew members and made my way through a large business class section. The flight looked indeed full, but there wasn’t much hand luggage and everyone got seated quickly. The flight time would be little over 4 hours.

CPH-SFJ / 7-6-11
GL782 operated by Air Greenland
A330-223 (3rd time on type)
OY-GRN “Norsaq”
Seat 33K


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Photo © Stefan Sonnenberg



View from my seat
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Legroom wasn’t bad, but there was a large IFE box underneath the seat
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We pushed back a couple of minutes later and taxied to the active. Greenland here I come! Take off was accompanied by the roaring sound of the PW4186A

Take off video
http://youtu.be/uANZcrUiBrA

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Gotta love the 330 wings
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The cabin crew made an announcement in Greenlandic, Danish and English, welcoming us on board and informing us about the service. All the seats in economy have PTVs but there is no AVOD. Just a selection of films and music on various channels, and more importantly, a moving map!

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IFE controller


Snack service
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Followed by a warm meal. It tasted okay. The cabin crew was very friendly and attentive.
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The coffee wasn’t bad for airline standards, and the chocolate cake was very good. Afterwards I was offered a mini Toblerone bar. The flight took us over the Northern part of Iceland and thankfully I got some views of the mountains

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Its only a short hop from Iceland to Greenland and very soon I saw icebergs on the sea below, followed by the shoreline of Greenland. Overflying Greenland is always my favorite part of TATL trips, and I was excited to actually go there this time!

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After a short while the decent into SFJ commenced, I got some amazing views of the inland ice pack below

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Beautiful ice formations
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The fjords, generally speaking these are snow free in the summer
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The approach was amazing, and I spotted the airport below the wing
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The approach and landing video shows how there’s almost a huge righthand turn before landing
http://youtu.be/XDI-sfMrYDw

It was a very very smooth landing, and as there’s no ILS this was some good piloting. A short taxi to the stand, and I spotted some GL equipment on the way there. Disembarking was done by front and rear stairs. It was really cool to use the stairs for such a big plane for a change. And it made for some interesting pictures!

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Pretty little DH7
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The mighty PW4000
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DH2’s, I’d later fly on the left one
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We climbed a stairs into a small but modern terminal, no passport control and I didn’t have to claim my bag. My next flight wasn’t for another 2 hours so I went to the observation terrace. GL shows flight into with registrations of aircraft so you know which plane to walk to on the ramp. My next flight would be on OY-CBT. The weather was very nice. Cool but still warm enough to walk without a coat on. Low wind and a very bright sun.


Pretty Norsaq
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Suloraq and Qarsoq
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This concludes part 1 Getting there

A sneak preview for part 2;

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I hope you liked reading this report, part 2 will focus on all the domestic flights, and part 3 will show the flights I took to get back home. Vacation is over and its back to work, so please give me some time to write part two, as it will be a long and extensive report. Any comments, replies and questions are always welcome!

Regards,

Martijn

[Edited 2011-06-21 04:19:10]


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User currently offlineairkas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3966 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 13226 times:

Great report Martijn! Seeing (and reading) this makes me jealous all over again, especially because of those Dashes (HUGE fan here!). I'm very much looking forward to seeing more pics, although I've already seen a few at various places of course   . Keep up the good work!

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 13168 times:

Hi Martijn,

very enjoyable first part of your Greenland series! I cannot remember seeing a report about Greenland and its airline here, so it was a pleasure to read!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
I had already tried FI and NY in the past and was more eager to get on the GL 330, and decided to fly from CPH instead.

Very good choice.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
AMS-CPH (KL 733)
CPH-SFJ (GL 332)
SFJ-JEG-JAV (GL DH7)
JAV-JHS-GOH (GL DH2)
GOH-JSU-SFJ (GL DH7)
SFJ-CPH (GL 332)
CPH-AMS (738)

That's what I call an exotic itinerary.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
She looks great!

  

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Followed by a warm meal. It tasted okay. The cabin crew was very friendly and attentive.

Not bad, but the tray looks quite small.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Suloraq and Qarsoq

Thanks, Suloraq was still missing in my aircraft name collection.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
I hope you liked reading this report, part 2 will focus on all the domestic flights, and part 3 will show the flights I took to get back home. Vacation is over and its back to work, so please give me some time to write part two, as it will be a long and extensive report.

I'm looking forward to the next parts!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12932 times:

You went, you saw, you conquered!  Great part 1!!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Using the only glass jetbridge at AMS

Cool! didn't know, it makes me think twice if I like it better or equally compared to the rest though, because the other with those circled windows are unique even though you can't see through very much.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
You have to love the KL 738 winglets though

Indeed!!  
Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
I couldn’t get to sleep however, and I had a long day the next morning!

Excitingness I guess , I have never achieved with some sleep before a long haul flight...too much to think about haha.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
She looks great!

When she's in CPH...she's the pearl in CPH  
Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
roaring sound of the PW4186A

Goodness, those make good sound.  
Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Gotta love the 330 wings

Indeed! And the wingflex! (*Hides from Phil for some reason*)      

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Suloraq and Qarsoq

Cool! I love the second pic!

It was nice meeting you again in CPH, you saved me from a day that would otherwise be boring for me. 

Looking forward for part 2 and 3!

Camilo   



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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12876 times:

I am green with envy about your trip to Greenland. I want to go to Greenland   

Great pics and I looked at the vids. Nice landing there. Are you going to pop a few non-av views in there too later? Love to see what it looks like.

That itenary must have cost you a fortune.


User currently offlineDanTaylor2006 From UK - England, joined Feb 2006, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12798 times:

Excellent stuff Martijn!

A really enjoyable read, with excellent photos and videos   The approach into SFJ looks amazing!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Beautiful ice formations

Stunning views, really really beautiful. I'd love to experience that myself.

I look forward to the remaining parts!  

Regards,
Daniel.



Flown: A319-21, A346, A380, B733-4, B738, B744, B752, B762-4, B77W, CR2, CR9, DH4, E190-95, F70-100, MD-11, MD-88, MD-90
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12722 times:

Excellent TR.

That is for sure a great journey.

Seems you pieced together an interesting itinerary, but it most likely cost you a fortune. Just looked for flights to SFJ from CPH for some random dates this autumn and it comes out at about 5500 DKK!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
the DKK still doesn’t make sense to me after 2 weeks

Why?

Looking forward to the next part.


Thank you for sharing

B747forever



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12706 times:

Hoi Martijn,

nice to see part one (and read it). As said before, an interesting routing indeed, and nice selection of aircraft.

Couldn't you get more to the front on KLM to secure more legroom or was that not available with your booking class? Cheaper fares are usually blocked from taking these seats. Indeed a bit disappointing that you did not get a sandwich pack, this service is also a bit to little for my taste, but again, SAS and DY (same route) do not offer anything, while KLM offers a competitive fare and product.

GL is quite ok, the meal good enought for a 4 hour flight, legroom fine also. You say the A332 has a large business class? Was that fully booked also? I wonder how much clientele they attract on those routes, since GL's international network is very small. Do they still operate the sole B757 also?

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineThule From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12591 times:

Fantastic TR! I did a similar trip to Greenland a few years ago myself, and you can view it here. It's great to see yours, mostly because you had a much better seat on Norsaq and because you're both a better and more adventurous photographer than I am!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
SFJ-JEG-JAV (GL DH7)
JAV-JHS-GOH (GL DH2)
GOH-JSU-SFJ (GL DH7)

I'm definitely looking forward to Part 2, especially the ride on their new DH2! I know from personal experience that your photos from JAV will be the most beautiful thing that A.net sees this month.


User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12498 times:

Hi Martijn,

very nice trip report. Awesome pictures as well. I have seen the Air Greenland airbus last year in CPH and really wanted to fly on it as well, so great to read a report now about it. Also like the all red livery, especially the red winglets, they look nice on your pictures.

I just checked out the approach video you made, indeed spectacular, great pilot skill. Imagine that in bad weather.

Now I am looking forward to the next parts of your report, to read about the domestic flights within Greenland.

Thanks for sharing
CaptainRed


User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1750 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12357 times:

Hi Martijn

What a cool trip report and what an exotic destination for a vacation! I've always wondered when passing through CPH and seeing the Greenlandair A330 how full the flight is. I'm quite surprised that the load seems rather good judging by your pics!

As for the A330, she's a handsome bird at the best of times, but that livery all in red is so seriously funky!

Thanks for posting,
William


User currently offlinePieterBoth From Belgium, joined Jan 2010, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12335 times:

Great pics! Surely must be a fantastic place to visit. Air Greenland has one of my favourite liveries, along with PLUNA and Air Tahiti Nui  

User currently offlinelh4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12187 times:

Hi Martijn, great report!

Nice to see another Air Greenland report, we don't get to see them that often here.

The red color really seems to suit the A330, then again it would come in pretty handy in case (god forbid) it would land on the glacier. But I guess you probably knew that already  

KLM flight looked rather decent, though I would've expected them to serve the Trattoria sandwiches? Then again it was a short flight. I must agree with you on that legroom issue, it's really tight at the back rows. I find it pretty strange what Eric says, that cheap fares are blocked from using the front rows. Last time I flew, I managed to get a seat at the very front Y cabin on a dirt cheap ticket. This was however 2009, so things might've changed.

The service on GL looked pretty generous, interesting to see them serving a pre-meal snack for breakfast. Did they offer any alcoholic beverages, or did they charge for them? a.k.a most airlines in the region.

Looking forward to the next parts!
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1844 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12036 times:
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Hello all! Thanks for the many replies, I'm happy you all like it.

Quoting airkas1 (Reply 1):
Great report Martijn! Seeing (and reading) this makes me jealous all over again, especially because of those Dashes (HUGE fan here!). I'm very much looking forward to seeing more pics, although I've already seen a few at various places of course

Thanks Kas, theres a lot more to come though  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
That's what I call an exotic itinerary.

Thanks PH, it sure took some effort to plan it, but it was well worth it!

Quoting CamiloA380 (Reply 3):
It was nice meeting you again in CPH, you saved me from a day that would otherwise be boring for me.

My pleasure Camilo   See you next time!

Quoting Babybus (Reply 4):
Great pics and I looked at the vids. Nice landing there. Are you going to pop a few non-av views in there too later? Love to see what it looks like.

That itenary must have cost you a fortune.

Thanks! I will certainly add pictures of my activities as well. It was indeed rather expensive, that's why I couldn't afford to go more then 9 days. It was well worth it though!

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 5):
A really enjoyable read, with excellent photos and videos

Thanks Dan!

Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):

Seems you pieced together an interesting itinerary, but it most likely cost you a fortune.

Yes I had to pull my belt tight as we say in Dutch, I did have to save a lot of money

Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Why?

I don't know, I just have trouble with it. The small numbers are okay but I needed a currency converter for the larger amounts.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Couldn't you get more to the front on KLM to secure more legroom or was that not available with your booking class?

Hi Eric, honestly I hadn't even looked at it as I like sitting behind the wing. I was however pre-selected in row 11 by KLM before I changed it.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
You say the A332 has a large business class? Was that fully booked also?

It was on this flight, but I don't think it was on the one back home. I talked it over with a GL guy who worked in the commercial department, and they said they might reduce it. This is the current config FYI;

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Do they still operate the sole B757 also?

No unfortunately they sold it to a DHL subsidiary in Australia according to the same source mentioned above.

Quoting Thule (Reply 8):
Fantastic TR! I did a similar trip to Greenland a few years ago myself, and you can view it here.

Hi Thule! I read that one to get myself excited for this trip. I wasn't dissapointed. You're right about the JAV photos, what an amazing area!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):
very nice trip report. Awesome pictures as well.
Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
What a cool trip report and what an exotic destination for a vacation!
Quoting PieterBoth (Reply 11):
Great pics! Surely must be a fantastic place to visit.

Thanks guys, glad you like it!

Quoting lh4116 (Reply 12):
I must agree with you on that legroom issue, it's really tight at the back rows. I find it pretty strange what Eric says, that cheap fares are blocked from using the front rows.

Hi Jonas, yeah its bad though I do prefer a nice view over extra legroom. I might keep it in mind for a future flight though!

Quoting lh4116 (Reply 12):
The service on GL looked pretty generous, interesting to see them serving a pre-meal snack for breakfast. Did they offer any alcoholic beverages, or did they charge for them? a.k.a most airlines in the region.

Hmm seems I forgot to mention that in the report. I've seen Beer, Wine and Wodka-Orange juice(Smirnoff) being distributed for free. Apart from the meal run there was a second drink run half an hour before descent in which you could get a full can of any drink for free.

Best regards,

Martijn



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11975 times:

Quoting lh4116 (Reply 12):
I find it pretty strange what Eric says, that cheap fares are blocked from using the front rows. Last time I flew, I managed to get a seat at the very front Y cabin on a dirt cheap ticket. This was however 2009, so things might've changed.

Shortly before departure you can select these seats if available usually, but basically the first rows of economy are blocked for pre-selection (online c/i) unless Elite member afaik, also confirmed to me by KL groundstaff. I usually check the SSCI shortly before boarding and if vacant, you can just change it. Also it does not say anything about the price you pay, it's about the booking class (several subclasses for Economy) and that can vary depending on local fares in different countries/promotions etc.



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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 410 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11964 times:

Thanks for that! That looks rather interesting! Im almost a little surprised that the flight was full, I never really thought there woudl be that much demand to Greenland.. Would be great if there was a cabin shot of the A330, but great report anyway. Looking forward to the next instalments!

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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1912 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11708 times:
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Great report, CrimsonNL!

What an interesting set of flights! I remember reading something about Air Greenland a long time ago, but never seen anything else about them. I agree with you about the livery; looks stunning on that A330! Service doesn't look that bad either ...

Looking forward to part 2! I also liked your CPH section; we're heading there in September and I'm looking forward to our trip very much ...  

Matthew (767747)


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Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11472 times:

Exotic airline - great report. Looking forward to part 2!


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Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11472 times:

Hi Martijn !

Thanks for a fantastic and great report on a destination that's rarely covered. KL's legroom does look a bit cramped but GL looks a bit better. Nice also to get a nice breakfeast on a flightt for free.

Reason for no passport control at SFJ is that this was a domestic flight.

Very much looking forward to part 2 and 3.

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User currently offlinekaphias From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11453 times:

You're a very lucky person! It is one of my dream trips to visit some parts of northern Alaska and Greenland during both winter and summer- but winter especially, just to experience the climate. Very much looking forward to parts 2 and 3, thank you for taking the time to write them!


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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11338 times:
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Martijn,

awesome report! Looks like you really had a nice vacation and I really need to go there as well. I only see greenland from above:


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I am really looking forward to part 2 and 3!

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10981 times:

Hi Martijn,

Wow! That's just the word for it: WOW! An amazing report about an amazing place and the journey there with an amazing airline (and no, I don't mean KLM!  ). I've seen that GL 330 dozen's of times at CPH when arriving on various morning flights and I've always wondered how it would be to fly them. Maybe one day I will actually get around doing it - although I sure as hell wouldn't spend nine days in Greenland - I would be broke and bored to death at the end of it!  
Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Using the only glass jetbridge at AMS

Oh, I didn't know that.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
walked to the Cabinn Metro hotel.

So how was it? Recently I was looking for an affordable hotel for an upcoming stay in Aalborg in September and the local branch of Cabinn was the only one I could find. Not that it was particularly affordable, except by Danish standards.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
GL check in, like most airlines, is located in Terminal 2. I think T3 is only for SAS and friends, and T1 for the domestic flights.

Actually the distinction between T2 and T3 is pretty much non existent. The airside area is just the same, you even use the same security check point. The only difference is the check in hall you use. The domestic T1 is indeed a separate terminal, but still connected airside to all the others (albeit it is a long walk) - you actually arrived at the A pier which ends in the stairway that leads to T1 domestic.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Followed by a warm meal. It tasted okay.

Looks like a decent breakfast.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Its only a short hop from Iceland to Greenland and very soon I saw icebergs on the sea below, followed by the shoreline of Greenland. Overflying Greenland is always my favorite part of TATL trips, and I was excited to actually go there this time!

Oh yes, those pictures that follow, up until your landing are simply gorgeous!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Disembarking was done by front and rear stairs. It was really cool to use the stairs for such a big plane for a change. And it made for some interesting pictures!

Well, you should switch your long haul flying to LH via FRA - their widebodies seem to end up at remote stands there quite often. I once deboarded from an 744 such a way there, that was indeed very nice.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
The mighty PW4000

I'm sorry, but it's no match for the best aircraft engine ever - the mightiest of them all - the amazing GE90!  
Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
GL shows flight into with registrations of aircraft so you know which plane to walk to on the ramp. My next flight would be on OY-CBT.

That's cool and very friendly for us nerds. I really love this feature of the ZRH airport as well.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 13):
Hmm seems I forgot to mention that in the report. I've seen Beer, Wine and Wodka-Orange juice(Smirnoff) being distributed for free. Apart from the meal run there was a second drink run half an hour before descent in which you could get a full can of any drink for free.


So was there much drinking going on? The Greenlanders have a reputation of being very tough drinkers - some people who've been there in the bars mentioned that Saturday nights there are among the wildest one anywhere in the world. And I've seen enough drunken people from that flight at CPH to believe such stories. Actually I was once chatting with a guy from Iceland at CPH airport and he claimed that the Greenlanders are the heaviest drinkers in the world, followed by his people and finally the Finns at the honorable third place (up yours, Irish!). He was drunk, so I'm not sure whether to believe him, though  .

Very much looking forward to the next parts!


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10795 times:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
and started looking into Japan as my 2011 summer destination.

Hey, good choice!!!  

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
She looks great!

Where was it being towed from?? Does it sit overnight??

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Gate info

I laughed. That looks about as equally 'easy' to pronounce as a lot of the Canadian North destinations.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
After a short while the decent into SFJ commenced, I got some amazing views of the inland ice pack below

Wow. I wonder if that flight operates as ETOPS, given the few and far-between divert options.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
The approach was amazing, and I spotted the airport below the wing

That reminds me of my recent trip to Adak, cool pic!!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Thread starter):
Suloraq and Qarsoq

Do they separately schedule the Dash-7 and Dash-8 or is it just luck of the draw, which one you get??


Very cool trip though, I'm very envious!! Will watch for part 2!!



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10592 times:

Hi Martijn,

That's for sure a different Summer holiday destination, but interesting nevertheless !

Great itinerary and one of the 1st GR trip-reports here at A.net, I believe; great looking A330 - that IFE is known to be 'in the way' on most 330's, whether it's QR, KL or whichever airline... 

Your teaser pictures for part 2 make it even more difficult to wait for your next installment...

Looking forward to it anyhow !

Gr.,

Pieter...



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Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10526 times:
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Hello guys! Thanks again for the many replies, really glad all of you like it. I will start on part 2 tomorrow and hopefully have it done by Saturday or maybe Sunday. I tried to post this picture in my earlier reply for Airbuseric, but it didn't work somehow, so here it is again, the current config!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6541/dscf0438x.jpg

Quoting T8KE0FF (Reply 15):
Would be great if there was a cabin shot of the A330, but great report anyway. Looking forward to the next instalments!

I forgot to make one, but I do have one on the way back of the aft cabin. Will post it in part 3.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 16):
Looking forward to part 2! I also liked your CPH section; we're heading there in September and I'm looking forward to our trip very much ...

Very nice, I'm sure you'll like it!

Quoting Nimish (Reply 17):
Exotic airline - great report. Looking forward to part 2!
Quoting The777Man (Reply 18):
Thanks for a fantastic and great report on a destination that's rarely covered.

Thanks guys!

Quoting kaphias (Reply 19):
It is one of my dream trips to visit some parts of northern Alaska and Greenland during both winter and summer- but winter especially, just to experience the climate.

Yes I'd love to go to Greenland in the winter as well, and Alaska should be amazing as well!

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 20):
awesome report! Looks like you really had a nice vacation and I really need to go there as well.

You really should Phil, its worth it!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 21):
I would be broke and bored to death at the end of it!

Broke? Most likely yes  Bored? I don't think so, theres so much to see!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 21):
So how was it?

Very decent, a small room but it was clean and modern. The breakfast was pretty good too.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 21):
I'm sorry, but it's no match for the best aircraft engine ever - the mightiest of them all - the amazing GE90!

Haha I still prefer the old PW R-1830  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 21):
So was there much drinking going on

Well apart from a couple of beers I didn't see it a lot. I did end up on a boat drinking cognac with a bunch of Icelanders at one point during the trip, but more on that in part 2 
Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 22):
Where was it being towed from?? Does it sit overnight??

Hey Matt, yes it stays at a remote parking all night.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 22):
I laughed. That looks about as equally 'easy' to pronounce as a lot of the Canadian North destinations.

Haha yes, the Greenlandic makes no sense to me at all!

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 22):

Wow. I wonder if that flight operates as ETOPS, given the few and far-between divert options.

I'm not sure, as KEF is nearby and the over water part of the flight isn't that big.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 22):
Do they separately schedule the Dash-7 and Dash-8 or is it just luck of the draw, which one you get??

They do schedule them separately but it's all subject to change of course.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 23):
that IFE is known to be 'in the way' on most 330's, whether it's QR, KL or whichever airline...

Yes that's a shame! I really like the 330 in terms of pax comfort otherwise.

Best regards,

Martijn

[Edited 2011-06-23 02:03:52]


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25 Post contains images buck3y3nut : Absolutely great report Martijn. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I can't wait to read Part 2 & 3 of this wonderful trip. I SO SO want to go to Greenland
26 FLIEGER67 : Hoi, Martijn, pretty good work and such a nice idea to go for Greenland. I saw that red machine at CPH for several times, something to do for me also.
27 abrelosojos : Martijn, WOW WOW WOW! I am GREEN(land) with envy at this report. Greenland is very much on the top of places I'd like to go to ... and being held back
28 reifel : Hi! Thanks a lot for this report! A very rarely covered airline and an interesting read so far! Can't wait to read the next part...
29 Post contains images CrimsonNL : Hi guys! I hope so! It's really worth the visit! Hi Markus, thanks for the kind words! Hmm well maybe you should just go instead I will include pictur
30 eaa3 : They seem to have a suprising amount of business class seats given that it's not really a business destination.
31 Post contains images akhmad : Hi Martijn, Awesome report! I was looking forward to this and thanks for updating beforehand on FB. Thank you for the lesson about putting together an
32 sultanils : Hi Martijn Very nice story with some excellent pics, well done. I think you got yourself a premiere here: first report on this route! Must be quite an
33 SPLTA : Hello Martijn, What a TR! Very interesting story plus great pictures! It's really funny we both happened to start our recent trips on board PH-BXU. I
34 Post contains links CrimsonNL : Hi all, Indeed thats what I thought, though they did manage to fill it up on the way back! You and me both! Only on or near the ice, it was actually q
35 Post contains images Mexicana757 : Hey Martijn Great TR on Greenland!! I'm so jealous, one of the places on my to see list. But for now I will live vicariously through you with this TR.
36 Post contains images infodesk : Hi Martijn, I too am soooo jealous! Ever since I borrowed the Lonely Planet Greenland guide from the local library as a teenager I've been fascinated
37 Post contains images MSS658 : Interesting report, It's not an area/airline that gets covered every day. Looking forward to part 2
38 vandenheuvel : Hi Martijn, I know it's a late response. I'm just back from my own holiday and just needed to see your trip report. This is a great report covering GL
39 CrimsonNL : Hi guys! Yes I would have liked the 757 as well, but the 330 has way more capacity so it makes sense for GL to use that instead. I know right! Especia
40 SloAir : Hi Martijn, great choice of destination and a great report on a less known airline. Your pictures in both reports are fantastic. Blaž
41 Post contains images stipica : what to say Martijn ... so unique trip report ... I must admit that this is an area that does not interest me but it does not mean that I am not curio
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