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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4578 posts, RR: 31
Posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8671 times:

This is the first part of my 20 day trip bringing me in Los Angeles, Tijuana, Hermosillo, Sydney, Brisbane and New York. Enjoy!
As United had a very attractive offer for Amsterdam-Australia flights with 2 stopovers possible in the US, I took their flight at
Saturday 30 March, 777 N774UA, AMS-IAD, UA947, actual TO 13.00, landing 15.06 (flying time 8.06).
This is already my fourth transatlantic United trip, so I was happy to have yet another 777 which I didn't flew yet. While I had confirmed seats for all the other 6 sectors, on this flight it wasn't possible, and even while I arrived at the airport at 9.30, I was lucky to get the final window seat available, 36J. The flight was 95% full, as United has a smart policy of filling the left over seats with very very cheap packages.
The flight was very comfortable, I must admit it gets a little routine for me... The meals (I chose chicken, baked potato, applepie, salad, crackers, had a Bailey's and before landing a cheese tosti, fruitsalad and cheesepie) was OK, the F/A's not too friendly (compared to my earlier UAL flights) but the IFE excellent, I really like the PTV selection. Again I could enjoy the southern Greenland tip on the moment the clouds broke. Then we headed over Toronto, Uttaca (NY) to Washington to land just in time.

Saturday 30 March , 777 N766UA UA947 IAD-LAX, actual 18.44-20.40 (flying time 4.56 hours) 21J
Even while the flight number remains the same, we had to change planes and wait quite some time. The flight number thing has more flying rights and PR reasons I think, as it doesn't seem to make sense to have the same flight number if both the aircraft, crew, (most) passengers and routing is different. While arriving on time, we ran late from our 17.50 departure as we had to wait for the incoming aircraft.
I was lucky to have a seat in the economy plus which had excessive legroom due to the crew block of seats was just in front of us.
Again the service was quite good, a hot meal with beef, brocoli and breadsticks, and another drink serving with pretzils an hour before landing.
We had quite some turbulence about half way , around Oklahoma and we took a small rerouting to avoid more. Later on in the news I heared there were thunderstorms in the area at the time.
Most of the time, the weather was quite good, and while we took off in dawn, we almost kept pace with the sun until approaching in LAX when it got really dark.

I took a small detour via San Diego to Mexico to fly two of my favorite rattlecrates.

Tue 2 April Tijuana-Hermosillo, Aerocalifornia DC-9-10 XA-LAC 4E, actual 12.44-14.42 (actual flying time 58 minutes).
The DC-9-10 series was the only mark of DC-9 (apart from the DC-9-20 which I consider sort of the same) I never flew yet so this short flight was many the final opportunity to get it in my logbook.
The flight was 100% full (my original ticket was lost in the mail and I could only obtain a new one after reporting the loss so my own seat became available again). We boarded at 12.15 and after a wait till official departure time (12.35) we pushed back and were on our way. Our climb was over the center of Tijuana (I already noticed al these noisy DC-9s and 727s over the town on the day and night before), then we turned east. Weather was good so I enjoyed the view of desert-like area, the Baya California and some mountains before descending. Service was a selection of softdrinks, pretzils and coffee. The aircraft (one of the ' newer' DC-9-10s, of 1968) looked quite good from the inside, only the pink seats look a bit dated 70s.

Wed 3 April 727-200 Aerolineas Internacionales XA-TPV Hermosillo-Tijuana, 15A actual 11.00-11.00 (flying time 60 minutes)
While I booked this flight on Internet, local procedures weren't in match with this convenient way of booking. The manager was called, a confirmation fax had to be signed and stapled four times and it took 25 minutes and three staff to get me the boarding pass.
It was free seating and a F/A blocked the last half of the cabin as there were only 35 passengers or so. I chose 15A. Again the air was bright (except for the smoggy Tijuana) and I enjoyed the view. There was only a cold drink service.
OK, my credit (Internet cafe) is up, so it's a bit shorter than usually. Feel free to ask anything.
Coming up: continuation of United flight to Sydney (747), to Brisbane by Virgin Blue, trainingflights with Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer, returned to Sydney by Qantas 763, a sightseeing flight with DC-3, Sydney-LAX-JFK (744/762), JFK-IAD (J-41) and to AMS (772).

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6383 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

I hope yo enjoyed Mexico.
I was looking at the Aerolineas Internacionales website and I found it funny when I read "En Aerolíneas Internacionales volamos equipos Boeing 727 que cuentan con los últimos avances de la ingeniería aeronáutica" which means that they use the 727 which has the ultimate technology.

Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineAMX From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7858 times:

Great trip report!! but I'm sorry you had to fly on the 2 worst airlines in Mexico (N2 & JR), especially Aerolineas Internacionales, your flying experience in Mexico would've been much better if you had flown on AeroMexico. I'm glad you visited my home State (Sonora). Btw, what did you do in Hermosillo?


Arriba Sonora!!!
User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2806 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7779 times:

Hi Seervas,

It was nice meeting you on your short stay here in L.A. I'm glad that you got to experience air travel in the Northern part of Mexico. Yes, Tijuana can be quite a culture shock but I'm glad you also got to see the other side of Mexico too.

I hope you have lots of fun in Australia and that your trips back home are as pleasant as the ones you already had. Take care and see you around.

 Smile LatinPlane

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4578 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7796 times:

Thanks for the kind feedback.
Chepos > Yes, I also read it on their website. I had to chuckle that they had someone to develop their online booking facility while the airline itself hardly knew how to handle it when checking in, coz it procedes not unlike a family run bus corporation. While the 727 I flew in, XA-TPV, looked quite nice, I saw a horrendous looking XA-AAD; you could see they desperately tried to scrub off the American Airlines titles, and the tail looked as if the surface was rusted and about to break off. And sure I enjoyed Mexico again... it was my third visit and I certainly return soon, as I made some friends there.
AMX > Don't feel sorry for me, I deliberately chose these airlines as I'm sort of interested in old airplanes and smaller airlines. Both the DC-9 and 727 are favorites. Also, pricings (about US$ 60 one way) was better than the horrendous fares Aeromexico/Aerolitoral sometimes ask for short sectors (in the 200-300 USD range). But on my next visit to Mexico later this year, I'll try to fly AM from the USA, in a package from Amsterdam (connecting with DL in Atlanta or JFK). But even more, I'd like to fly Allegro and Aviacsa once... How do they rank in your Mexican airline top 10  Wink/being sarcastic ?
I really liked Hermosillo (and hot coz it's in the desert), a relief after the dirty and busy Tijuana. I walked around through the center in the afternoon and in the evening I hang out with a friend I met. And next morning, I left already (too soon).
Latinplane > My pleasure, indeed.

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5299 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7809 times:

Right now A. Internacionales it´s trying to give a better image on their planes and staff. I saw on newspapaer that they have a plan to give a better service and increase efficiency in everything.

Right now all the fleet, has been on paint job, and you have to wait and see a nice B727-100 XA-SKC which I think it got a lovely c/s.

XA-AAD it´s next! But for now.......

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Photo © Ricardo Morales Aviation Photography of Mexico

About Allegro I think you´ll like to fly them.. In scale from 1 to 10 I give them a 9.

And Aviacsa is also ok.. I give them a 8, I don´t like the interiors and service but it´s very nice to fly on their Dc9s or B727s....

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Photo © Ricardo Morales Aviation Photography of Mexico

I heard they will be getting B737-300 also trying to make a better effort.

P.S. Nice trip report!!

ghost77  Smile
/R. Morales/

Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7759 times:

I worked for this airline from 1991-1993 as an A&P mechanic. When you fly this airline you are taking your life into your own hands and paying a little more money is worth it. They will cut corners at every turn and bounced payroll checks frequently. If fact in the two years working for them I estimate they bounced my payroll check 10-12 times.

Although I like to forget the days I worked there it often makes me wonder how they haven't crashed an aircraft yet.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4578 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

TechRep > Which airline do you mean? Aerocalifornia or Aerolineas Internacionales?
I think the Mexican aviation authorities are more critical to especially the 'rattletrap' flying airlines (also Aviacsa, Allegro) since the TAESA accident in 1999, so either airline you meant must have put their act together.

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2806 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7672 times:

So where is the next part of the trip report? By the way, did you take any pics?

 Smile LatinPlane

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