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Asia Part 1: LHR-China With LH (LHR-MUC-FRA-NKG)  
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16128 times:

Asia Part 1: London to China with LH (LHR-MUC-FRA-NKG)



This trip, much like an increasing number of my trips this year, came about through an airline email. I was actually on a trip to Jordan (LINK TRIP) over Easter, and the day before my return flight from Amman to London, Lufthansa sent me an email with some amazing fares. Beijing (PEK) and Nanjing (NKG) for GBP 350 return (+ Shanghai and Hong Kong for about GBP 450). I spent a year living in Nanjing back in 2004/5, and the trip always used to be such a hassle flying into Shanghai, then schlepping across to the station, then getting a 4 hour train to Nanjing. I’d always dreamt of a non-stop flight to Europe. When I heard that LH would be introducing a NKG flight (3/4 weekly with an A340-300), I really wanted to do it – this email seals my fate.

The day after I got back from Jordan, I looked though the date where the fare was available, and ended up deciding on a flight into Nanjing in early June, and return from Beijing in late June (with flights on the A380 as an added bonus), all booked with minimum fuss on Expedia. As LH were running a promotion of double Miles & More miles on a selected route (I’d gone for FRA-MUC due to previous flight bookings using the route), so decided to route LHR-MUC-FRA-NKG; an extra fight for only a few extra pounds tax, and my first domestic German flight. The return I booked PEK-FRA-LCY as I wanted to fly into LCY (arriving into LHR in the evening sometimes is such a chore, and LCY nearly always takes just 10 minutes from touchdown to train (including immigration and baggage claim). I also wanted another sector on an Embraer, which only operate on the LCY routes.

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Chinese routes in the LH magazine

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I managed to persuade my little sister to drive the car back to LHR for me, so for the first time, I drove myself to the airport for a flight. After parking right outside the LH check area (such a nice change from having to walk from either the bus or tube station), said goodbye to my sister, and headed to the desks. Since I last flew LH (& co) out of LHR, they’d moved the check area around a bit. The LH and OS business class desks were now in a walled off area at the back. Interestingly, other LH family airlines’ Business passengers had their own desks in the main area.
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After a short wait, I had my boarding passes re-issued (I’d checked in online), and my bag tagged. Bizarrely, all the boarding passes were on BD stock, along with the ‘heavy’ tag for my bag (it was only 22kg). I would have thought that especially for their Business and Gold pax that LH would want their own brand boarding cards. For a long time, they used to issue fairly generic ‘Star Alliance’ passes. All the staff were in BD uniforms too.

After a quick stop at am ATM, and then WHSmith for some reading material, I headed to the BD lounge. As I’d had an early start, and missed out on my shower in return for extra sleep, I went straight to the shower area.

With the shower done, I made my way to my usual space in the lounge, which was empty as usual. I fixed myself a G&T (I know it was early….), and had a few biscuits.


I was quite pleased to see a LH A321 pull into Gate 5 directly below the lounge. I had my fingers crossed that this would be my plane as it would mean only a 2 minute walk to the gate. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Gate 55 would have been a good 20 minute walk.
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Thankfully, the MUC flight was to be the Gate 5 flight – that meant time for a bit more breakfast.
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The queue at the gate was reminiscent of a mosh pit, but before long everyone was aboard.
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I was in the front of the second economy section, which had excellent legroom. Unfortunately., the flight seemed to be completely packed, with no empty seats visible.
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Not my plane, but the Google Map image of our gate whilst sitting at it.
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The captain welcomed us all aboard, and announced a half hour delay (didn’t hear the reason)

June 2011
London Heathrow (LHR) – Munich (MUC)
Lufthansa LH 2473
Scheduled: 1105-1355 (1h50m)
Actual: 1144-1409 (1h25m)
Airbus A321-200 D-ASIP

After a welcome opportunity to send a final few emails, we pushed back to a long taxi around the airport, to the back of a long, slow moving line for takeoff.
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Finally, after a nearly forty minute delay, we were off
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Central London
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Leaving the UK for a month
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Welcome to Belgium
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A hot Chicken wrap was served. It was nice to get some hot food (albeit a small wrap) on a late morning flight in Europe.


I asked for a G&T, but was told these were only available on longhual flights – oh well, will have to settle for a beer


Clouds over southern Germany
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Approach into a sunny and green Munich
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We were unable to make up our delay, and landed just under a quarter of an hour late. I still had an hour before my next departure, so there was no worry about missing my connection. No doubt who rules the roost here in MUC
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Does MUC offer airside tours? Looked like a load of people gathering for a photo with a fire engine
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A gorgeous A330 of Air China awaiting her return flight to Beijing. The normal CA livery is so drab, why can’t they do something like this to the rest of their fleet?
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MUC is well designed with the non-Schengen gates using the same airbridges as Schengen flights, but up one level. This means that transfers between the two just involve going through immigration (no queue) and taking an escalator downstairs. FAR better then FRA!
I headed over the lounge once down on the Schengen level. The last time I was in this lounge was in 2004 on my way to Dubai, and I remember it being a busy dump. Well, it’s much bigger and better equipped now. Most of the comfy seats were taken, so I took a seat on a table next to the buffet. I noticed that as well as having large bottle of spirits, they also have miniatures of vadka – I’ve never seen miniatures on offer in any lounge – far too easy to ‘borrow’! Anyone else seen this? The FRA lounge only have large bottles. I also had a Lowenbrau (from a tap) and some water (in the large glass).
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I wasn’t really looking for food, but the cheesecake and Haribo caught my eye
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Once I noticed all the other flights around mine were boarding, I starting to get my stuff together, ready to head for the gate


MUC airside
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June 2011
Munich (MUC) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Lufthansa LH 115
Scheduled: 1510-1610 (1h00m)
Actual: 1521-1600 (0h39m)
Airbus A321-200 D-ASIW

I was seated towards the back this time, and the difference in legroom was quite noticeable, but for a 40 minute flight, it wasn’t an issue.
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Some LH little brothers
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We ended up rotating a little behind schedule.
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I quite enjoyed looking through the LH shopping catalogue (not the duty free mag) which had a load of LH merchandise, include a very large selection of bags, including a special A380 set. Pity they were all very expensive.
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Not sure where this is…anyone?


A small snack (Milka made kit-kat-alike), and I got a beer. Interestingly, this was served in a 250ml bottle – on the LHR-MUC flight it was 300ml. I didn’t get a photo as id just started chatting to my American seat mate and didn’t want to come across as a complete looser taking a photo of a chocolate bar. He ordered a glass of water, and I asked for a beer. He turned to me asking if I had paid for it, so I replied “no, everything is free on LH!”. I suggested he called back the FA and order a beer, which he promptly did, thanking me for my help. We spent the rest of the short flight discussing European and US beers, although failed to reach a consensus about which is best!

Approach to FRA
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A Valdivostokavia A320 undergoing a check
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We taxied past the terminal, and ended up on a remote stand. This was fine for me; being sat near the back, I was one of the first off, into the surprisingly humid FRA air.
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The drive back to the terminal was quite scenic
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My onward A340 to NKG
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I had half decided to head to the ‘Tower Lounge’ in the A pier before my flight, but then decided against it half way there, seeing as it would be closing at 5pm. Instead, I headed over toward the other LH lounge near my B gate, going via the tunnel, which was pretty grim.
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Passing a B747. Oh, I wish I was on one of those! Luckily, I’ll be on a CX one soon!
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LH lounges are really nothing to get excited about. There were no nice seats left, so I settled down on a table, with a sad looking sandwich, some pain au chocolat, and a G&T. Funnily enough, I started to pour my G&T in a large beer glass, and some of the lounge staff said I could only use a non-branded glass. What? Seemed very petty. If I want a super-large G&T in a beer glass, I think LH should let me have one! However, I acquiesced, and took a normal glass.
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Not long after I arrived, I noticed them bringing some hot food out of the lounge, and went to investigate – chicken nuggets with ketchup (much with RJ in AMM!). They were full of grease, but tasted ok.
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With a further hour of so to go before boarding, and with nothing to do (no English language papers, no TV, no free wifi (just 3 computers), I decided to have a shower.


The shower was nice, although a little unnecessary, seeing as I had had one in LHR. I did a bit more wondering around, and managed to get on one of the computers for a bit. With that done, I had a another wander around, found some pretzels, and had another G&T.
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I decided to balance all the alcohol out with a coffee
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At 1810, I went downstairs to the gate, where there was a large crowd of mainly Chinese pax jostling to board. I joined the scrum. I’ve been wanting to board this flight for many years, so I was quite happy to finally be doing so, even if it was in Y class.
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June 2011
Frankfurt (FRA) – Nanjing (NKG)
Lufthansa LH 780
Scheduled: 1835-1110 (10h35m)
Actual: 1857-1122 (10h25m)
Airbus A340-300 D-AIGH



When I got to my seat, I found that I already had a neighbour, a Chinese lady. He husband was sitting the other side of the aisle. Once the “the door are now closed” announcement, it seemed like there was a load of around 70%, so there were quite a few spare seats. In the centre row of 4 across from us, there was just one French guy, who had his stuff spread evenly over the 4 seats. I slyfully suggested to my neighbour that she took the aisle seat so we’d both have more space. She discussed it with her husband (with me eavesdropping in Chinese) – she thought that the man might have booked all four seats, so thought it better if she stayed. Oh dear. Sadly, I was too in need of a window to volunteer to move myself, so we stayed as we were.
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The captain came on to say that we would be on our way shortly, but due to congestion in FRA, and a 10 hour 30 minute scheduled flight time, we would probably be arriving into Nanjing a little behind schedule.
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We finally took off just over 20 minutes late, into a dark, wet and gloomy sky.
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Roughly 40 minutes into the flight, the cabin crew came through with hot towels - most impressed!
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Not long after came the second surprise – a menu! Two hot choices for both dinner and breakfast. Excellent!


Before dinner, there was a drinks and snack run – I went with a G&T as usual.
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The French guy across the aisle decided to go to sleep straight away, perhaps to cement his claim over the 4 seats.
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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16235 times:

Before dinner was served, the crew came around offering more drinks
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LH have fitted pout their Airbus longhual fleet with AVOD now, so it’s only the B747 in economy that has to deal with the main screens. There wasn’t an enormous amount of choice in content, but they were showing The Eagle, which is something I’ve been wanting to see for a while, so I was happy about that.
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An hour and a half into the flight, dinner was served. I went with the sweet and sour prawns, which were pretty good. I wasn’t sure what the Breast of Poulard Yakitori was – luckily the Chinese description of Japanese style chicken was a bit more informative!
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I picked up an in-flight survey during boarding, and took the time after dinner to fill it in (my film had finished, and I was bored). I commended the two staff (a German lady, and a Chinese guy) on their great service, and handed it to the guy in charge of Economy. I still haven’t had a reply from LH, although I must say the service I got for the rest of the flight from the Chinese guy was excellent – coincidence?
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The cabin after dinner
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Being near mid summer, the sky didn’t actually get very dark. The sun did set for a while, but it was still light.
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Watching Love and other Drugs – I was pleasantly surprised by this, although only because my expectations before I started were below zero.
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Despite dosing myself up with gin, and being fairly tied, I didn’t manage any sleep (well, maybe half an hour). Whilst annoying, I was expecting this – I can’t sleep on planes, even on flat seats. Ironically, I think I sleep best on Ryanair on short midday flights! Noise canceling headsets and mask (courtesy of NZ) didn’t help.
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My collection of water glasses collected throughout the night


About an hour and a half before arrival, breakfast was served (preceded by another hot towel). I went for the pork noodles, which tasted better than they looked!
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Served with Chinese tea, water and apple juice
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Getting close to Nanjing
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Approach to NKG was much as I had expected – blue sky, transitioning to white clouds, then onto grey murk. Urgh. Pollution seemed to be even worse than I remembered. Sorry about that smudge is the middle left – somehow, some dust (?) managed to get into one of the lenses. Not sure how to get it out – any ideas?
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Much as the pilot had predicted, we arrived a little late. There was the usual assortment of short haul domestic Chinese carriers. Air China, China Eastern (NKG is a base), Shenzhen Airlines, Hainan and China Southern amongst others. Of course, we were the only wide body on the ground. SQ used to fly 3/4 weekly flights on a B777 from SIN, but they stopped a few years ago. Air China sometimes uses a B767 on their PEK services, but other than those, LH is the only widebody, and only longhual carrier. http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/Asia2011pt1/CIMG8111.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/Asia2011pt1/CIMG8114.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/Asia2011pt1/CIMG8115.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/Asia2011pt1/CIMG8116.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/Asia2011pt1/CIMG8122.jpg

Disembarkation
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Arrival board
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I was a in bit of a rush to get to my hotel to have a shower, so I only took one photo of NKG airport, and that was of a car park – sorry!
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I must say, I was very pleasantly surprised with Lufthansa. The last time I flew them longhual in economy was back in 2004 between Germany and DXB. I suppose the flights are so short (overnight both ways, 5 hours) that there wasn’t much time to shine. However, these flights shoed that LH are really quite good. The hardware has been massively upgraded from the days of old, when there was o PTV (although their B744 still have no TV in Y), and the software (meals, menus, drinks) etc, are all up there with the best. The staff too were a pleasant surpirse. No Germanic bad tempers her, but friendly, and understanding cabin crew.

Sorry about taking so long to put these up (I flew over a moth ago now). Having issues with Photobucket….

The other flights booked on my itinerary are:

Cathay Pacific, Hong Kong to Tokyo (Haneda), B747-400 Business Class
ANA, Tokyo (Narita) to Shanghai (Pudong), B767-300 Business Class
Air China, Shanghai (Pudong) - Beijing, A340-300 Business Class
Air China, Beijing - Dunhuang, B737-800 Economy Class
Tianjin Airlines, Jiayuguan – Lanzhou – Xi’an, Embraer 145 Economy Class
Joy Air, Xi’an – Taiyuan, Xi’an MA 60 Economy Class
China Express Airways, Taiyuan – Datong, CRJ, Economy Class
Lufthansa, Beijing – Frankfurt, A380-800, Economy Class
Lufthansa, Frankfurt – London City, Embraer 190, Economy Class

Comment and questions welcome!



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15903 times:

Hi Gabriel,

nice report, good to hear you were satisfied with LH's product.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A hot Chicken wrap was served. It was nice to get some hot food (albeit a small wrap) on a late morning flight in Europe.

The wraps are part of the new short-haul catering concept. I really liked that on my last LHR-MUC flight. Much better than the cookies or chocolate bars on AF or BA.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Does MUC offer airside tours? Looked like a load of people gathering for a photo with a fire engine

Yes, the airport offers various tours.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The normal CA livery is so drab, why can’t they do something like this to the rest of their fleet?

I can only agee.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I also had a Lowenbrau (from a tap) and some water (in the large glass).

At least some real stuff after the Warsteiner "beer".

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Airbus A321-200 D-ASIW

It's D-AISP and AISW.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I didn’t get a photo as id just started chatting to my American seat mate and didn’t want to come across as a complete looser taking a photo of a chocolate bar.

The real loser would be the one who reacts negatively after someone takes such a picture.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
so it’s only the B747 in economy that has to deal with the main screens.

One 744 has been refurbished, many others will follow.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
An hour and a half into the flight, dinner was served. I went with the sweet and sour prawns, which were pretty good. I wasn’t sure what the Breast of Poulard Yakitori was – luckily the Chinese description of Japanese style chicken was a bit more informative!

That doesn't look bad - better than the breakfast.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Cathay Pacific, Hong Kong to Tokyo (Haneda), B747-400 Business Class
ANA, Tokyo (Narita) to Shanghai (Pudong), B767-300 Business Class
Air China, Shanghai (Pudong) - Beijing, A340-300 Business Class
Air China, Beijing - Dunhuang, B737-800 Economy Class
Tianjin Airlines, Jiayuguan – Lanzhou – Xi’an, Embraer 145 Economy Class
Joy Air, Xi’an – Taiyuan, Xi’an MA 60 Economy Class
China Express Airways, Taiyuan – Datong, CRJ, Economy Class
Lufthansa, Beijing – Frankfurt, A380-800, Economy Class

Sounds very interesting.


PH



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User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15865 times:

Hi Gabrielchew,

it was a pleasure reading your report, always nice to read about LH long-haul flights in all classes. It is good to see they did a good job, I fly LH the most on long haul routes and so far I only had very positive experiences. Thank you for posting it and I look forward to the return report on the A380.

Blaž



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 15706 times:
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Hello Gabriel,

Nice to read you had a positive experience on LH in this extensive report. Isn't China an important market for LH (hence this new destination)? A bit weird with the detour via MUC but understandable for the collection of miles. Lucky you did not encounter any delays!
And for sure you must be a 'clean' person: 3 showers a day (keeps the doctor...  )


Any reports coming up from the other flights mentioned?

Bye,
Sultanils



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 15478 times:

Nice trip report, glad you've enjoyed your LH experience as good as mine in December. Tough the menu card is different, would this only be on Asia flights or is this something new?


Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1194 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 15152 times:

Hi Gabriel

Very nice to read your latest report of a fairly obscure route operated by LH. I remember they used to operate to Shenyang as well (via Seoul?) but that flight no longer operates.

Catering looked quite decent as well - and service onboard also very friendly. I flew LH 11 years ago between FRA and HKG and likewise, I found the crew to be very friendly. That was back in the day when LH was operating A340-200s and I was on the Star Alliance logo jet. How time flies!

What continues to bug me however (and this is only a small point) is how Lufthansa refers to Chinese city names. This was also re-inforced when one of their A380s was named "Peking". The capital has not been referred to as Peking for years and years.

The mainland has had the pinyin system in place for a number of years, which it regards as the official means for translating Chinese and as such, it's "Beijing". Peking is what the British called it in colonial times!

Why are LH so ill-informed?

Likewise, they seem to refer to Nanjing as "Nanking" in some contexts but the correct Nanjing in others. How about a bit of consistency?

Looking forward to your other trips coming up - looks like a great set of flights!!

Cheers P/jet



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User currently offlinephotophil From Germany, joined exactly 3 years ago today! , 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks ago) and read 15096 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Not sure where this is…anyone?

I already told Gabriel by e-mail. Now for everyone else: I had been living near to that one for several years. It's the military airport of "Manching" near to Ingolstadt. Thats a military maintenance base of the german airforce together with a factory of the EADS. It's the very spot where all the german Eurofighter Typhoon are built. More information here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingolstadt_Manching_Airport

or the translated german page

http://translate.google.com/translat...ki%2FFlugplatz_Ingolstadt-Manching

PHILIP



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14902 times:

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 6):
What continues to bug me however (and this is only a small point) is how Lufthansa refers to Chinese city names. This was also re-inforced when one of their A380s was named "Peking". The capital has not been referred to as Peking for years and years.
Quoting Palmjet (Reply 6):
Why are LH so ill-informed?

LH is definitely not ill-informed. "Peking" is simply the German spelling - and you find that together with the Chinese version (ideographs). The same goes for "Tokio" and other names. LH has always used the German spelling for the names, e.g. "München" instead of "Munich".

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 6):
Likewise, they seem to refer to Nanjing as "Nanking" in some contexts but the correct Nanjing in others. How about a bit of consistency?

It depends on the context - if it's an English text, it's "Nanjing", if it's a German text, it's "Nanking".


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14899 times:

Thanks for all your comments

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):

nice report, good to hear you were satisfied with LH's product.
Quoting SloAir (Reply 3):
It is good to see they did a good job, I fly LH the most on long haul routes and so far I only had very positive experiences

Yup, LH has a pretty good product

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):

The wraps are part of the new short-haul catering concept. I really liked that on my last LHR-MUC flight. Much better than the cookies or chocolate bars on AF or BA.

Quite, a better concept than BA/AF. On the FRA-LCY last week, they served a little salady type thing, which was quite nice.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):

One 744 has been refurbished, many others will follow.

I hadn't realised that they were also doing the B744.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 3):
Thank you for posting it and I look forward to the return report on the A380.

It'll be out soon!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 4):
Isn't China an important market for LH (hence this new destination)?

Yes, it seems to be important for LH. Nearly 7 daily flights from DE to China.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 4):
A bit weird with the detour via MUC but understandable for the collection of miles.

Well, it wasn't just the airmiles! I love to fly!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 5):
Tough the menu card is different, would this only be on Asia flights or is this something new?

I don't know if the menu card is just on the Asian flights? I'm flying FRA-BOG in October, so will see then.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 6):

Very nice to read your latest report of a fairly obscure route operated by LH. I remember they used to operate to Shenyang as well (via Seoul?) but that flight no longer operates.

Yes, I looked into doing that flight a few years ago, but they were only operating twice weekly, and the fares were really expensive.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 6):
What continues to bug me however (and this is only a small point) is how Lufthansa refers to Chinese city names. This was also re-inforced when one of their A380s was named "Peking". The capital has not been referred to as Peking for years and years.

Perhaps that's the offical spelling in German? I know Beijing in French is Pekin. Although, as a graduate in Chinese, the continuted usage of Wade-Giles drives me mad! It' so ugly!

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 6):

Looking forward to your other trips coming up - looks like a great set of flights!!

The rest of the reports are out soon!

Quoting photophil (Reply 7):

I already told Gabriel by e-mail. Now for everyone else

Thanks! Good that you finally signed up to a.net!



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14861 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):
I hadn't realised that they were also doing the B744.

D-ABVC and D-ABVK have been refurbished. But I don't think that all 744s will get PTVs.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1194 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14759 times:

Quote:
LH is definitely not ill-informed. "Peking" is simply the German spelling - and you find that together with the Chinese version (ideographs). The same goes for "Tokio" and other names. LH has always used the German spelling for the names, e.g. "München" instead of "Munich".

Hi PH - sorry I beg to differ. The Chinese pinyin system is the standardised way in which Chinese words and places names are spelt using a Romanised alphabet. This spelling applies across all languages.

There should be no "German" word for Beijing any more than there should be an equivalent English, or Romanian, or Spanish or Greek word.

It should be referred to as "Beijing" in all languages ( 北京; pinyin: Běijīng ) - not "Peking", "Pekin" or any other variant of the word. The characters that make up the name are "Bei" meaning north(ern) and "Jing" meaning Capital (city) and this pinyin spelling accurately reflect the sounds of each character. The same goes for Nanjing ( 南京; pinyin: Nánjīng ) which means Southern Capital. I don't understand why Germany (and other European countries) do not recognise the pinyin system for words in China when this is the PRC's official naming convention, and has been for many years.



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User currently offlineba286 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14307 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The French guy across the aisle decided to go to sleep straight away, perhaps to cement his claim over the 4 seats.

  



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User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1152 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 14095 times:
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Such a delight to know you flew on D-AIGH, which I have also flown on. But you are luckier than I was as at the time there were no seat back videos!! However, the friendly LH crew pretty much made up for the lack of proper inflight entertainment.

Love those pics of the SQ A380 between the VS jets. LHR is truly eye candy for spotters!


User currently offlinesfflyer123 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 13869 times:

Excellent TR! I felt like I was right there with you. Fantastic!

User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 13813 times:

Hi Gabriel,
I enjoyed reading your trip report and found all the photos of the various liveries very interesting.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Does MUC offer airside tours?

Details can be found here: http://www.munich-airport.de/en/cons...mer/erlebnis/airporttour/index.jsp MUC offers tours for groups as well as for individuals and tours can be just of T1 and T2 or include the fire station (for an extra fee).

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
didn’t want to come across as a complete looser taking a photo of a chocolate bar.

Hey, you're a professional A.net reporter. No need to let things like that worry you as it goes with the job.  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
d I could only use a non-branded glass.

Perhaps that is the deal with the brewers - they wouldn't want people to think that they water down the beer too much  

Thanks for sharing.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
There should be no "German" word for Beijing any more than there should be an equivalent English, or Romanian, or Spanish or Greek word.

I do agree that they should be consistent in applying names. If they are going to spell something Nanjing on one destination board, it shouldn't appear as Nanking on the next. But two questions:
1. How does an Englishman pronounce Beijing and how does a German? The first might be "bay-jing" while the second might be "by-ying". The written word may appear the same but the pronunciation will vary from country to country.
2. Why do British Airports and airlines insist on the wrong spelling of places like (to name but a few) München, Warszawa and Praha? After all, the governments of the respective countries in which these cities are located have been spelling them that way using a roman alphabet for quite a long time. Why is there a "need" for English words?


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 13775 times:

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
Hi PH - sorry I beg to differ. The Chinese pinyin system is the standardised way in which Chinese words and places names are spelt using a Romanised alphabet. This spelling applies across all languages.

There should be no "German" word for Beijing any more than there should be an equivalent English, or Romanian, or Spanish or Greek word.

It should be referred to as "Beijing" in all languages ( 北京; pinyin: Běijīng ) - not "Peking", "Pekin" or any other variant of the word. The characters that make up the name are "Bei" meaning north(ern) and "Jing" meaning Capital (city) and this pinyin spelling accurately reflect the sounds of each character. The same goes for Nanjing ( 南京; pinyin: Nánjīng ) which means Southern Capital. I don't understand why Germany (and other European countries) do not recognise the pinyin system for words in China when this is the PRC's official naming convention, and has been for many years.

Palmjet, I guess we won't find an agreement here. Beijing is "Peking" in German, just like there's Moskau, Prag, Singapur, Taipeh, Tokio, Warschau etc. Should we now start to adapt everything just because it's common in a certain country? I don't think that anybody should tell us how we spell words in our own language. I'm tired of this political correctness everywhere.

Apart from that - it seems the Chinese officials themselves don't see a problem at all because they happily took part in the naming ceremony at PEK. Oh, shouldn't that be finally changed to BJS???  




PH



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User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1194 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13569 times:

Quote:
Palmjet, I guess we won't find an agreement here. Beijing is "Peking" in German, just like there's Moskau, Prag, Singapur, Taipeh, Tokio, Warschau etc. Should we now start to adapt everything just because it's common in a certain country? I don't think that anybody should tell us how we spell words in our own language. I'm tired of this political correctness everywhere.

Hi PH - I don't think it's got anything to do with political correctness, but yes, I think we'll have to agree to disagree!  



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13547 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 13):
Such a delight to know you flew on D-AIGH, which I have also flown on. But you are luckier than I was as at the time there were no seat back videos!! However, the friendly LH crew pretty much made up for the lack of proper inflight entertainment.

Well, the last time I flew on a LH aircraft longhual in economy, there was no PTV - the flight was quite boring, so it's good that LH are slowly updating their fleet.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 13):

Love those pics of the SQ A380 between the VS jets. LHR is truly eye candy for spotters!

Yeah, you can't beat LH for A380 and VS spotting! I think FRA/CDG has a larger variety of airlines though? Maybe.

Quoting sfflyer123 (Reply 14):
Excellent TR! I felt like I was right there with you. Fantastic!

Thanks!

Quoting Quokka (Reply 15):

I enjoyed reading your trip report and found all the photos of the various liveries very interesting.

Thanks!

Quoting Quokka (Reply 15):

Details can be found here: http://www.munich-airport.de/en/cons...mer/erlebnis/airporttour/index.jsp MUC offers tours for groups as well as for individuals and tours can be just of T1 and T2 or include the fire station (for an extra fee).

Good to know, will have to do one of those next time.

Quoting Quokka (Reply 15):

Hey, you're a professional A.net reporter. No need to let things like that worry you as it goes with the job.

Well, normally I'd just carry on as normal, but when you start chatting to a guy your age about beer, then it's kind of hard to 'come out' as a airplane geek aftewards!

Quoting Quokka (Reply 15):
Perhaps that is the deal with the brewers - they wouldn't want people to think that they water down the beer too much

Mmm, probably. Seems a bit OTT to me to be honest though.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 17):
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):

Hmm, a contentious issue! I've thought a bit more about it, and realised than in English, there are quite a few cities in China still referred to in the old system, and not in pinyin (e.g. Hohhot not Huhehaote, Harbin not Haerbin, Urumqi not Wulumuqi, and Cantonese not Guangdong(ren)). I think agreeing to disagree is the best way forward!



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2359 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13427 times:

Nice TR...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Air China, Beijing - Dunhuang, B737-800 Economy Class
Tianjin Airlines, Jiayuguan – Lanzhou – Xi’an, Embraer 145 Economy Class
Joy Air, Xi’an – Taiyuan, Xi’an MA 60 Economy Class
China Express Airways, Taiyuan – Datong, CRJ, Economy Class



Looking forward for these TR's!!! Can't wait!!!   

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
With a further hour of so to go before boarding, and with nothing to do (no English language papers, no TV, no free wifi (just 3 computers), I decided to have a shower



Which lounge did you used? Last time I visited the BC Lounge close/above to gate B40. Well, international newspapers and international TV were offered! No Problem!
BUT the lounge was very, very dirty! Around my seat all tables were full with left overs from previous visitors (glasses, plates, newspapers etc.!)- so I decided to have a shower. I shouldn't have done that: only cold water, the floor full of different kinds of hairs and stains I don't wanna talk about!      
After my return- still the same mess, nothing was cleaned... No wonder you prefer MUC!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Frankfurt (FRA) – Nanjing (NKG)
Lufthansa LH 780
Airbus A340-300 D-AIGH



Nice to see this "old" bird having PTV and new seats...


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12953 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 19):
Nice TR..

Thanks!

Quoting debonair (Reply 19):

Looking forward for these TR's!!! Can't wait!!!

They'll be out soon!

Quoting debonair (Reply 19):
Which lounge did you used? Last time I visited the BC Lounge close/above to gate B40. Well, international newspapers and international TV were offered! No Problem!
BUT the lounge was very, very dirty! Around my seat all tables were full with left overs from previous visitors (glasses, plates, newspapers etc.!)- so I decided to have a shower. I shouldn't have done that: only cold water, the floor full of different kinds of hairs and stains I don't wanna talk about!
After my return- still the same mess, nothing was cleaned... No wonder you prefer MUC!

I used the Business Lounge about gate B26 (?). I apologize, there were TVs, altough they were just showing sport. Nothing in English though apparent in the lounge. I didn't find the lounge too dirty though.



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12793 times:

Hey Gabriel, great report!

A nice and detailed insight in Lufthansa's short haul and long haul Y products.

I like how LH have improved the service on short haul flights, the hot wrap seemed like a tasty snack to me. Too bad though they didn't offer booze, but you could've gone for some sparkling wine instead of that beer  

Long haul Y looks very nice! Seats on the A343 seem better than on the A346/A333, also the food looked generous i.e two full hot meals. The hot towels was a great touch, I'm guessing LH is the only airline to offer this to Y pax in Europe?

The Lounges looked very nice, and I found it a bit funny how the attendant refused to let you pour a G&T into a beer glass. A perfect example on the German perfectionist mentality!  
Btw, how did you access them. Star Gold perhaps?

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1053 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12522 times:

Hi Gabriel,

Thanks for this wonderful report which I think is the first to feature LH on the FRA-NKG route and one of the few to feature NKG.

Service on their short haul flights look standard, nothing much different from a typical intra-European flight. I had actually wondered if a flight from FRA-NKG would actually work out but it seemed like it did, seeing that the loads are around 70%, quite healthy for a fairly new route. I'd wonder how are the yields like.

It's good to see that the entire Airbus widebody fleet of LH has AVOD equipped. Is the AVOD selection good enough? I might consider flying LH SIN-MUC on their A340s or even SIN-FRA on their A380s in 2 years' time or probably stick to TG SIN-BKK-FRA but TG does not have many selection on their AVOD system.

Will be looking forward to your other reports, especially those in Business Class and the LH A380 report!

Regards,
Daniel



One way I will fly around the world!
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12340 times:

Hi Gab,

A very nice read on your long trip to China. You must've been very tired by the end of it, but at least you were clean with your three showers and everything  

Anyway lots of nice pictures and a good reminder that LH is still quite a class act. Well, it is a very German airline, in both good and bad. The product might not be very exciting or sexy, but it is well defined, extremely consistent and things just work and you usually know exactly what to expect.

NKG is definitely a destination not too often covered, and I wasn't really aware that LH flew there. Then again AY just announced flights to CKG and KLM flies to Chengdu, so these regional Chinese metropolises are getting some long haul action as well.

Based on this I'm kinda looking forward toward our little BOG adventure in October  .

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I fixed myself a G&T (I know it was early….)

Well, it is already afternoon in China anyway!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
MUC is well designed with the non-Schengen gates using the same airbridges as Schengen flights, but up one level. This means that transfers between the two just involve going through immigration (no queue) and taking an escalator downstairs. FAR better then FRA!

Actually the FRA A pier is the same, upstairs is non-Schengen and downstairs is Schengen. But as it is so long it can still mean a very long hike to the immigration checkpoint and then another long hike back. Yeah, MUC is fab in all senses.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
LH lounges are really nothing to get excited about.

Kinda like the airline, really. Dependable, trustworthy, functional but not exactly that exciting.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The other flights booked on my itinerary are:

Wow, interesting list. Hope you will post some reports on these.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
. Urgh. Pollution seemed to be even worse than I remembered.

I remember when I flew to PEK the first (and last) time - I kept wondering where the heck the ground is until it appeared out of the dirty grey murk around half a second before touchdown. A very weird sight.

It did clear up during the morning, though as we arrived around 6 AM...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
Palmjet, I guess we won't find an agreement here. Beijing is "Peking" in German, just like there's Moskau, Prag, Singapur, Taipeh, Tokio, Warschau etc.

Just to throw in more confusion - in Finnish they actually changed the official recommendation from "Peking" to "Beijing" according to the updated pinying rules, among with many other places. But then again we have always been the model citizens in obeying every pointless rule any authority throws at us!


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11654 times:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):

I like how LH have improved the service on short haul flights, the hot wrap seemed like a tasty snack to me. Too bad though they didn't offer booze, but you could've gone for some sparkling wine instead of that beer

I'd rather beer than fake champagne!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Long haul Y looks very nice! Seats on the A343 seem better than on the A346/A333, also the food looked generous i.e two full hot meals. The hot towels was a great touch, I'm guessing LH is the only airline to offer this to Y pax in Europe?

Yeah, the inflight services were good - better than BA I think.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
The Lounges looked very nice, and I found it a bit funny how the attendant refused to let you pour a G&T into a beer glass. A perfect example on the German perfectionist mentality!

More annoying than perfectionist.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Btw, how did you access them. Star Gold perhaps?

Lufthansa Silver get you into the LH Business lounges.

Quoting initious (Reply 22):
Thanks for this wonderful report which I think is the first to feature LH on the FRA-NKG route and one of the few to feature NKG

Yes, i think so.

Quoting initious (Reply 22):
I had actually wondered if a flight from FRA-NKG would actually work out but it seemed like it did, seeing that the loads are around 70%, quite healthy for a fairly new route. I'd wonder how are the yields like.

The flight was definately busier than I was expecting. Normally, fares are quite high, so they must be making some money on the route.

Quoting initious (Reply 22):
Is the AVOD selection good enough?

It's not the best, but it is avOD, so not too bad. They could so with loading a few more films though.

Quoting initious (Reply 22):

Will be looking forward to your other reports, especially those in Business Class and the LH A380 report!
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):

Wow, interesting list. Hope you will post some reports on these.

They'll be out soon!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
A very nice read on your long trip to China. You must've been very tired by the end of it, but at least you were clean with your three showers and everything

Yes, tired but clean!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
NKG is definitely a destination not too often covered, and I wasn't really aware that LH flew there. Then again AY just announced flights to CKG and KLM flies to Chengdu, so these regional Chinese metropolises are getting some long haul action as well.

Finally, there are some options flying into China apart from PEK/PVG/CAN/HKG. For a country of 1.5 billion, it's only right.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):

Based on this I'm kinda looking forward toward our little BOG adventure in October .

Me too!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I fixed myself a G&T (I know it was early….)
Well, it is already afternoon in China anyway!

Perfect logic there!



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25 Post contains images tk747 : Great trip report . The food looks great for Y class and the cabin very modern. I can't wait to read your reports on the internal flights in China. TK
26 abrelosojos : Thanks for a well written, and very nicely documented trip report. It is always good to see how LH does on their other flights, and I must admit that
27 gabrielchew : Thanks! I am writing this report today! Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
28 Post contains images ba319-131 : Nice report GC, apologies for the late comment in this, too much going on and a holiday for almost 2 weeks I think you covered the LH Y product pretty
29 gabrielchew : Thanks, and no problem! Yeah, I have no qualms flying with them longhual on their Airbus fleet in Y. The lack of free wifi is quite shocking really.
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