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Asian Tour May 2011. Part I: JFK-ICN-REP On KE  
User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12868 times:

Welcome to a new trip report. This one, also with pictures to make it attractive to more a.netters, deals with the outbound flights of my recent trip to Asia to attend the wedding in Singapore of a.netter Coal, who is a very good friend of mine.

When you live on the other side of the world, you do not just go for 3 or 4 days to Singapore for a wedding and return. I mean, don’t get me wrong; if I had not had the chance to take the whole week off, I would still have come up with a plan and traveled to be there next to my friend when he tied the knot, but the truth is that this was the perfect opportunity to take a small break from work.

Initially, I decided that before going to Singapore, I would fly to Australia and pay my Aussie friends a visit… after all, I had only been to Australia once in 2007 and I am itching to go back. The first obstacle that I encountered is that now one of them is in Brisbane, one is in Sydney and the third one is in Adelaide, so a city had to be chosen and all of them would have to agree. When it seemed that we had all agreed to meet in Sydney, I encountered more obstacles. For starters, the fares for a NYC-SYD-SIN-NYC itinerary were too expensive (and the schedules where somewhat awkward); this, however, was eventually resolved in a favorable manner. One of my Aussie friends helped me found online certain routings/combos that were very attractively priced (and that I had not found during my initial searches). The second obstacle, however, actually killed the plan. Due to work reasons, I would not have as much time as I needed to do this. Ideally, I would have flown out of New York on May 4 or 5 so as to spend the weekend of May 7 and 8 with my friends in Sydney, but as the date of the trip approached, it became clear that the earliest that I would be able to leave NYC was the afternoon/evening of May 6. Since the Brisbane and Adelaide guys needed to be back home on Monday, May 9, the Australia plan started to seem like a really bad idea.

It was then when Coal, the groom, said I should consider leaving Australia for a more auspicious occasion and visit Cambodia before arriving in Singapore instead. I had always wanted to go to Cambodia and visit Angkor Wat, so why not! It was a brilliant idea! Shortly after the decision to go to Cambodia was made, I booked my itinerary:

05.07.11
KE 0086 JFK-ICN 00:50 – 03:50 (+1) 747-400
05.08.11
KE 0687 ICN-REP 19:00 – 22:25 737-800
05.11.11
3K 0594 PNH-SIN 12:50 – 15:40 A320-200
05.16.11
DL 0280 SIN-NRT 06:10 – 14:05 777-200LR
DL 0172 NRT-JFK 15:15 – 14:59 747-400

Now, on to the outbound flights!

05.07.11 KE 0086 JFK-ICN

As always, the day of my departure was a busy and hectic day at the office, but at 15:45 or so I decided to go home and get ready for my trip. Not only did I have to finish packing, I also had to wait for the arrival of a friend of mine and his fiancée who were going to housesit my apartment that weekend. After my friends arrived and we had a beer, I let them go out and explore the city, and I took a shower and chilled for a bit before taking a taxi to JFK’s T-1. I was tempted to take the shuttle bus from Grand Central Station, but time sort of crept up on me and I did not want to be late (i.e., I wanted some quality time at the KE lounge), so taxi it was.



As you can see, the check-in area was pretty empty, so checking in did not take too long. Before I go on, I would like to explain that choosing my seats was a bit of an issue. I booked my flight on cheaptickets.com because (i) for some reason, the DL site did not show REP as a destination even though DL codeshares on KE’s ICN-REP flights; and (ii) KE’s website would only show return flights from SIN to JFK via ICN at a very expensive price (and inconvenient schedules). Anyway, the ticketing airline was DL, and I was able to choose my seats for the SIN-NRT and NRT-JFK segments on DL.com immediately after buying the ticket. Choosing the JFK-ICN-REP seats was more complicated though; the DL website was basically useless, and the KE customer service agents could not help me. I had to call DL’s number and only then was I able to choose my seat (basically I asked for an aisle seat, and I was given that: a “G” seat). Anyway, back to the airport. The agent who checked me in was not exactly rude, but I did not find her kind or friendly. I tried to get her to see if there might be an emergency exit or bulkhead seat available, but she simply said it was a full flight and most seats had already been assigned without actually checking. She also made a bit of an issue out of the fact that I said I would leave ICN to do some exploring considering that I had a 15-hour layover. She said she had to check in her system and with her colleagues if I needed a visa or something (which I knew well was not the case). Anyway, eventually she convinced herself that I could stay at ICN or leave and it’d be fine, but by then I was beginning to feel annoyed. I got really mad when her colleague, who was standing next to her and helping her, handed her a priority bag tag for my suitcase (he was just being nice to me since I was not a SkyTeam Elite flyer at that moment) and she refused to tag my bag with it because, well, I was neither in F/J, nor a SkyTeam Elite flyer. I mean, strictly speaking she was right, but her colleague was just being nice and it did not cost her anything to tag my bag with it… more often than not I find AM and DL check in agents tagging my bags as “priority” when flying coach, even without me asking. Oh well, it is not my fault she does not get any.

After queuing for, and passing through, security, I made my way to the KE lounge (it is the Priority Pass lounge at T-1). On the one hand, I was happy about visiting this lounge because it is quite nice, perhaps nicer than the AF lounge, but I was not so keen on being in a very full lounge. As I had anticipated, the lounge was very full. The vast majority of passengers were South Koreans who would be on my flight to ICN. However, there were also some Americans, and even a few Mexicans (most likely Priority Pass members) who were going to fly to MEX on AM’s redeye (AM’s business class passengers are invited to the AF lounge at T1, not the KE lounge). I am sorry I did not take pics of the lounge, but it was really full, I spent a substantial amount of time on the phone with my firm’s I.T. guy, and everybody seemed to be sleeping (and the ones who weren’t tried their best to be quiet). After sending some e-mails and having a couple of vodka tonics, I made my way to the gate, where I arrived just a few minutes before boarding started. Even though boarding was carried out by zones, a very long line of people formed even before the premium class and Elites were invited to board. I really don’t understand why people do that.



When the time for me to board came, I quickly found my way to my seat, placed my carry-on luggage on the overhead compartment, and sat down. I was glad that the passenger on seat “F” was already on his seat because that meant I could sit down, fasten my seatbelt and relax. An amenity kit, a blanket, a bottle of water and a headphone set had been placed on each Y-class seat.



After a few seconds, I started to feel that something was wrong but could not quite figure out what it was. I soon realized that KE has a more spacious arrangement for seats ABC and HJK, than for seats DEFG. Yes, believe it or not, the seat pitch that the guys on HJK had was way better than mine. I am sorry I did not take pictures, but I swear it was not my imagination. It was very clear from my seat that the people on HJK seats could stretch their legs quite a bit more, and had a lot of space, whereas I and all the others on the DEFG section of the cabin had less legroom (not bad, but noticeably less than ABC and HJK).



Anyway, it was too late to regret my choice of seats, so I decided I’d make the best out of my flight. I decided to turn on the IFE to the moving map feature, and read my book. I was in the middle of a book about how Maximilian of Habsburg and Charlotte, emperors of Mexico during the 1860s, in order to have an heir apparent, decided to “adopt” the grandson of Agustín de Iturbide, hero of the independence of Mexico and self-proclaimed Emperor Agustín I following the consummation of independence in 1821. I had to finish the book because I had promised to give it to Coal, and I knew that once I was in Asia and my flights were over I would not have any time to read it. About 45 minutes after take-off, the crew came with peanuts and a beverage service (I had juice).



Coal had anticipated that the KE flight attendants were famous for being very pretty and tall, and I have to say he was right. I am not sure I’d say they were very tall (although for Asian women they were indeed of a very good height), but they were impossibly thin, with really small waists and very beautiful legs, so they looked very classy. Moreover, some of them were very pretty, especially the one who, by chance, ended up taking my meal orders and interacting more with me throughout the flight. Her nametag only had her initials, A.J., and her last name. I really love the uniforms of the female KE flight attendants (I think they are by Gianfranco Ferré), and I really like how most of them wear their hair in a bun and they place a very smart ribbon next to it… very cute. In addition to A.J. being very cute and elegant, she was also genuinely kind and had a very nice smile. How I wished I were in F and have her as the purser. 

Shortly after the beverage service, the meal service started. I decided to go for the Western option. The meal consisted of a small salad of lettuce leaves, mayo and a cherry tomato; a kind of beef stew with mashed potatoes, carrot batons and zucchini slices; a Rubschlager (a Chicago-area bakery) bun; and a fruit salad. I decided to have a glass of red wine (it was a quite decent French Bordeaux) to accompany my meal.



I don’t know for a fact if KE loads more bibimbaps than Western meals, but I guess it is safe to say they do. The vast majority of passengers on the flight opted for the Korean meal (then again, it was expected as most were South Koreans), including two American backpackers in their mid-twenties sitting across the aisle from me, who were traveling with a Korean-American girl. In any case, the Western meal option was not a bad choice; the taste of the salad, the main course and the fruit was good… I just wished the portion of beef had been a bit bigger. During the meal, one the flight attendants came around with the bottles of wine in her hands and she topped the glass for those passengers who wanted more. I thought that was a very nice gesture and the last time I remember something like that was during an AM MEX-GRU flight I took in 2008 (the wine, back then, was quite crappy by the way).

Anyway, once people had finished eating, the coffee and tea service started. I did not have any, but asked for some water. While I waited for the flight attendants to remove the trays, I listened to my iPod and looked at the movie and show selection on the IFE. Once the trays had been removed and the trolleys had been stowed in the galleys, I decided to pay the lavatory a visit for the requisite photo that all a.netters expect. 



As soon as I returned to my seat, I decided to watch The King’s Speech. I was very looking forward to seeing the movie (I did not have the chance to see it in a movie theater), so this was the perfect opportunity. Once I made sure the guy sitting next to me was fully asleep and would not wake up and want to get up in a while, I started watching the movie. The movie was preceded by a short advertisement on the KE A380, which made me salivate. How I wished Coal’s wedding had taken place in mid-August as opposed to mid-May!

My attempt to watch The King’s Speech did not prosper. I fell asleep shortly after the scene where Bertie (King George VI) listens to the recording where he recites a soliloquy from Shakespeare without stuttering. I had had a long day and it was already 3 a.m. or so, New York time, so it was kind of expected that I would fall asleep. When I woke up a couple of hours later, I realized that the movie had finished and that everybody was sleeping or resting, so I decided I would read a bit more, listen to my iPod and relax. I must have dozed off a couple of times because when I realized we were more than halfway into the flight. After reading some more, I gave The King’s Speech another try… and I again I failed. I got as far as the preparations for King George VI’s coronation and then I fell asleep again. This was actually good because I was tired and I had a busy week ahead, so it was in my best interest to rest as much as possible. I finally woke up (not entirely sure where we were at that time) and was finally able to finish the movie hehe.

I spent the rest of the flight reading my book, listening to my iPod and looking at the map. I was quite immersed in my book, so time really went by quite quickly. During the time I was awake, I noticed that A.J. and the other flight attendants did several beverage runs. I was very happy to see that they had water as well as orange and pineapple juices on offer. I love pineapple juice, especially in Asia, where pineapples are quite sweeter than in the Americas. At some point, I got up from my seat and went to the bathroom again.

After a bit of more reading and a final nap, it was time for breakfast. I was impressed by how refreshed and pretty A.J. and her posse looked. The beverage service came first (yes, I went for the pineapple juice), and then the meal was served. Once again, most passengers chose the Oriental meal, which consisted of some sort of congee. I opted for the Western selection, which was scrambled egg with ham and potatoes. I know the eggs look disgusting on the picture, but they were not so bad in reality (they were not good either, but oh well). In addition to the eggs, there were some fruit slices, a blueberry yogurt and a muffin. I think KE did a good job with the choice of sides.



As you can see from the following pics, we were quickly approaching ICN. When we started getting close to the PRC-North Korea border, the plane started going eastward so as to avoid flying over North Korean territory.



I took one more cabin shot and soon enough we started our final descent into ICN.



Disembarking took a bit as you can imagine, considering that the load was 100% in Y (not sure in F and J). After disembarking, a bilingual KE employee was at the hall helping direct passengers to the immigration counters and to the sterile area (for those who had connecting flights). Since I had an almost 16 hour layover, I decided to go through immigration and explore the city. Given the ungodly hour of our arrival, first order of business was a shower and a nap, so I went to the spa on the underground level of ICN’s main terminal. After I had a nice shower and a relaxing hour or two on a mat in the lounge of the “spa” (all for just 20 dollars), I decided to go to the ATM for some cash, grab a coffee and some light bites at the café by the viewing terrace, and leave ICN to explore Seoul.



I took the train (not the Incheon Express which is quite expensive) to the city and had a wonderful day of sightseeing and shopping. I definitely have to go back to Seoul in the near future for a longer stay!

05.08.11 KE 0687 ICN-REP

After an entire morning and part of the afternoon exploring Seoul, it was time to fly to REP! I returned to ICN by train and quickly made my way through security. I really wanted to enjoy the lounge at ICN, but I unfortunately did not have a lot of time to do so. Once I had gone through security, I walked to the KE lounge. I did not have my Priority Pass booklet with me, but I was sure the KE lounge at ICN was a Priority Pass lounge… well, not! I was directed to the “Hub Lounge” (I later found out the OZ lounge is a Priority Pass lounge, but oh well… too late), and I have to say that the Hub Lounge is quite subpar. The lounge was a bit crowded, it was too warm and the food selection was not very appetizing. I had a couple of drinks while I sent some e-mails and then it was time to go to the gate. After a quick walk, I reached the gate and sat down for a few minutes.

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Boarding was more orderly this time. As I was approaching my seat, I accidentally bumped my laptop case on the knee of a pretty blond woman sitting one seat ahead of mine. I apologized and quickly took my seat, which was an aisle seat by the way. My seatmates, a young father on seat A and a small boy on seat B were already on their seats. As you can see, there was a blanket, a set of earphones and a pillow on each seat, and the legroom was awesome.



This flight was not 100% full, but had a very healthy load. Based on what I saw at Angkor Wat, many South Koreans visit Cambodia… additionally, I am sure many people from the U.S., Japan and China fly to Cambodia with KE and OZ via ICN.

Sadly, there were no PTVs in coach on our KE 738 (I dunno if other KE narrowbodies have PTVs or not), but this was not entirely bad because I would be able to read some more.

About an hour after take-off, the meal service took place. I chose the Western option (chicken, veggies and rice), and I chose to have, you guessed, pineapple juice to wash it all down.



The crew on this flight was good, but not nearly as great as A.J. and her team on the JFK-ICN flight.

The flight from ICN to REP is quite long… more than five hours. I must say I was surprised that a flight of such duration by a large Asian carrier was operated with a narrowbody instead of something like an A330. I guess the low-yield nature of the route and the great capabilities of the 737NG explain why.

The flight was quite uneventful. Not too long after the trays were removed, I dozed off a bit. Between intermittent naps and the reading of my book, the flight went by quickly. There was a bit of turbulence at some point, but it did not last too long. During the final hour I just listened to my iPod and started to get really excited because in a few hours I would be exploring the magnificent Angkor Wat.

We finally landed at REP and, as we were deplaning, the blonde whose knee I had earlier banged with my laptop case and I got to talking. At the terminal, I had to line up to apply and pay for the entrance visa, while she was able to go straight to the immigration desk because she had applied for her visa in advance, so before we went our separate ways, we exchanged e-mail addresses and made arrangements to meet at 8:00 a.m. the next morning at the main entrance in order to explore the temples together. 

Alright a.netters I hope you have enjoyed this trip report. I am sorry it took me so many weeks to write it, but better late than ever. Stay tuned for the second part of this report, featuring my SIN-NRT-JFK flights on DL!

Please leave comments!


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
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User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12618 times:

Great report so far! I heard that KE offers free city tours for long layovers in ICN. Furthermore they do offer hotels for long layovers, especially from New Zealand to Europe, were schedule is obliging you to stay on night in SEL flying back to Europe...

User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12376 times:

Danke schoen Reifel, es ist sehr nett von dir!  

Oh I did not know about the city tours, I would have definitely considered taking one. However, since I love being the master of my time, I really only needed Wikitravel, a subway map and a city map. I visited Changdeok-gung (what an awesome place!), the Catholic Cathedral, Myeongdong, and the amazing Lotte and Shinsegae shopping centers. I tried to visit the top of the N Seoul Tower, but it was super crowded... lots of Chinese tourists. I was tired and hungry, and definitely not in the mood for making long lines and spending time in a crowd, so I decided to go back to Shinsegae for a relaxed lunch before going back to ICN. I must say I have to go back to Seoul! I loved it.

On the other hand, I was not interested in a hotel. I landed after 3 a.m. and my flight to REP was in the late afternoon/early evening, and I did not want to sleep until I was in Cambodia. In this sense, the spa was perfect. The place is very nice and I thought 20 dollars was quite reasonable. On second thought, I wish I had used the steam sauna and/or the jacuzzi instead of only having a long shower, but oh well. I was a bit disappointed that the small cabins (extra cost) were all reserved, but I did not mind snoozing for an hour or so on a mat in the main lounge (which was full of other people like me!).



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12252 times:

Hi Eduardo,

very interesting report, good to hear you had an enjoyable trip on KE. The airline and ICN are high on my list. Maybe I try to get on their A380 next year...

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
Sadly, there were no PTVs in coach on our KE 738 (I dunno if other KE narrowbodies have PTVs or not), but this was not entirely bad because I would be able to read some more.

And another carrier with IFE boxes, but without PTVs.

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
I am sorry it took me so many weeks to write it, but better late than ever.

It takes me months to write my reports, so don't worry.  



PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently onlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1169 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11955 times:

Dinner looked very mediocre like a US airline. It seems that ASIANA is a lot better. As to seats EXPEDIA are great. They show the legroom. On Air Canada legroom also varies by section.

User currently offlineRJtraveller From Indonesia, joined Feb 2011, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11565 times:

Hi,
Interesting trip report and nice pictures really enjoy reading it,
Quite impressed they are offering blanket for the flight to REP.

the legroom on the KE B747 is fairly modest as i recall my last flight on their KE B744.

looking forward for the next leg, as i am also flying with the DL B772 to NRT next week ,

cheers,
RJtraveller


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11161 times:

Hey there, nice trip report. Surprised by the size of the aminity kit.


Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1993 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11075 times:

Hey there Eddie!

Well, you proved me wrong and managed to upload Part 1 of your Asia trip even before I upload the trip report on my upcoming SQ PVG - SIN trip   

Fantastic pictures and an awesome report! Keep them coming, I love the narrative.

Would love to see some pics of Seoul if you have them - and I know you do    Also, don't be shy about sharing some pics of Singapore in Part 2, especially those after our third or fourth sangria at Ku De Ta!

Cheers
Coal



Nxt Flts: VA SYD-CBR-SYD | VA SYD-OOL-SYD | JQ SYD-MEL | VA MEL-CBR-SYD | DL SYD-LAX-ATL-MIA | B6 FLL-DCA-BOS | DL BOS-L
User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1294 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10753 times:

Hello Eddie,

Thx for nice report - probably first one of the ICN-REP route. There are indeed many south Koreans in Siem Reap, and I think that the flight to ICN is the longest distance flight operated out of REP small (but nice) airport.

Enjoy your time in asia,
Jonathan



"In our country, those who do not believe in miracles are irrational" - David Ben Gurion.
User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10595 times:

Quoting RJtraveller (Reply 5):
Interesting trip report and nice pictures really enjoy reading it,
Quite impressed they are offering blanket for the flight to REP.

the legroom on the KE B747 is fairly modest as i recall my last flight on their KE B744.

looking forward for the next leg, as i am also flying with the DL B772 to NRT next week

Thank you very much. I am glad you liked. Yes, I thought the blanket was a thoughtful detail... wish more carriers did that. I recently flew DL JFK-DFW and one passenger asked the flight attendant for a blanket. The flight attendant replied that there were no blankets in Y, and that she would check in case someone in first gave theirs away. I think airlines should at least have a small stash of blankets in an overhead compartment to provide upon request. But anyway.

About the legroom, really, ABC and HJK were so much better. I wonder why KE does that. Luckily I am 5'8", so it was sufficient for me. As much as I love window seats, aisle seats are always my number one choice for long haul!

Ugh, I will do my best to have Part 2 up soon, but no warranties. As a sneak preview, I can tell you that despite the ungodly hour of the SIN-NRT flight, I enjoyed it very much. The load was very light and I had an exit row aisle seat, so my legroom was virtually unlimited, which was awesome. The 77L in addition is an incredible airplane. In general, I love the 777 family. I am itching to get on a 77W.

Quoting Coal (Reply 7):
Well, you proved me wrong and managed to upload Part 1 of your Asia trip even before I upload the trip report on my upcoming SQ PVG - SIN trip   

Fantastic pictures and an awesome report! Keep them coming, I love the narrative.

Of course man!   I promised. I am looking forward to reading your Taiwan trip report(s) and your Sunday PVG-SIN trip report. And thanks for the cheering. Very, very appreciated.   

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 8):
I think that the flight to ICN is the longest distance flight operated out of REP small (but nice) airport.

Enjoy your time in asia,

Hmm, interesting. It probably is now that you mention it. Maybe there are charter flights coming from farther away, but it should be the longest on a regularly scheduled basis. I wish KE used a widebody but oh well.

Sadly my trip to Asia was brief Jonathan. Just 9 and a half days. I guess "Tour of Asia" was a misleading and somewhat pretentious title for my report. Anyway, it rocked, which is what matters. And thank you, because your trip reports are awesome and are also a guide for us, the less proficient trip reporters.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9703 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
es, believe it or not, the seat pitch that the guys on HJK had was way better than mine.

Strange! Usually I find the side seats more comfortable though, maybe it has to do with the fact that being in the middle feels more crowded.

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
I thought that was a very nice gesture and the last time I remember something like that was during an AM MEX-GRU flight I took in 2008 (the wine, back then, was quite crappy by the way).

I think it's a standard procedure @ AM, on my last MAD-MEX they did that more than once, although the wine was not that bad, it was from Bodegas de Santo Tomás, a Mexican wine from Baja California.

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
I would be exploring the magnificent Angkor Wat.

How was it????

Amazing trip report, ever since their makeover Korean looks like a very fancy airline



flyOM
User currently offlinebananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1574 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

Thanks for the report. How did you like Seoul? By the end of next month, I'll have been through ICN 3 times and don't have enough time in my connection to leave the airport, but I am really curious about the country as a whole.

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
I soon realized that KE has a more spacious arrangement for seats ABC and HJK, than for seats DEFG

TG do that too in certain economy sections on the A340-600 and 747-400. 2 inches less legroom if you pick the wrong seat.

Mark



All my life, I've been kissing, your top lip 'cause your bottom one's missing
User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5075 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9490 times:

Thanks for the report, and to Coal for getting married! KE seems to be consistently above average - in all classes. And, their bibimpap has been a staple for forever - sad really because as much as I love it, there is so many other Korean options.

Saludos,
A.

PS: Whatever happened to the girl from Siem Reap ...? Did the 8,00am temple tour lead to much more  ? Yes, I have no life right now and can leave vicariously through others.



Live, and let live.
User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9312 times:

Quoting AM" class="quote" target="_blank">KLAM (Reply 10):
I think it's a standard procedure @ AM, on my last MAD-MEX they did that more than once, although the wine was not that bad, it was from Bodegas de Santo Tomás, a Mexican wine from Baja California.

Probably in long haul. Never seen this "wine glass refilling" walk on AM MEX-U.S. services. Santo Tomás is very good. I think their Merlot is more than acceptable for the price. Back in 2008 when I did my MEX-GRU flights, they were serving some crap Domecq Cabernet Sauvignon XA in coach.

Quoting AM" class="quote" target="_blank">KLAM (Reply 10):
How was it????

Wow, it was awesome! Seriously! This evening, once I am home, I will post some pics of Seoul and Cambodia on this thread.  
Quoting AM" class="quote" target="_blank">KLAM (Reply 10):
Amazing trip report, ever since their makeover Korean looks like a very fancy airline

Thank you very, very much.

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 11):
How did you like Seoul?

I loved Seoul. As I mentioned, I only visited Changdeok-gung, the Catholic Cathedral, Myeongdong, and the Lotte and Shinsegae shopping centers. Now that I think about it, it is good I only saw a tiny bit, because that means I definitely have to go back. I am a fan of Seoul now.

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 11):
TG do that too in certain economy sections on the A340-600 and 747-400. 2 inches less legroom if you pick the wrong seat.

Ah! Thanks for the info. Don't think I will fly TG any time soon, but it is good to know!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 12):
Thanks for the report

Muchas gracias Alex. Not many a.netters have your natural talent for writing amazing reports, so it is quite flattering that you read mine with interest.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 12):
KE seems to be consistently above average - in all classes.

This was my first time on KE (other Asian airlines I have flown are JL MEX-YVR and CX LAX-HKG-SIN-BKK-HKG-LAX), and I certainly was not disappointed with KE! I cannot wait to fly on their A380s!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 12):
PS: Whatever happened to the girl from Siem Reap ...? Did the 8,00am temple tour lead to much more  ? Yes, I have no life right now and can leave vicariously through others.

Hahaha, well she is Bosnian. We did spend the entire day together at Angkor Wat and then we met again in the evening for dinner and drinks.

Alex, come to NY to visit anytime. It'd be great having you over.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8544 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (3 years 14 hours ago) and read 8481 times:
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Thanks for the report, I haven't flown KE, although my sister, who has flown them a few times always raves about how good they are. It seems that she hasn't been exaggerating. I have wanted to try them out as they have some excellent fares to Europe ex AKL, but as a diehard *A addict it is hard to break my habit  I hope you don't mind my asking, but I notice that you fly a Mexican flag on your profile but you have a Spanish passport in your seat pocket? Do you have dual/multi citizenships? A choice of passports always makes travelling a lot easier.


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User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 hours ago) and read 8330 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 14):
my sister, who has flown them a few times always raves about how good they are.

Hehe, nice. Let's just say I cannot wait to try their A380 service!

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 14):
I notice that you fly a Mexican flag on your profile but you have a Spanish passport in your seat pocket? Do you have dual/multi citizenships?

Ah, yes. I am a Mexican citizen by birth. Moreover, I have lived in Mexico all of my life, except for 2002-2003 (Chicago, graduate studies) and 2011 (New York, work). My Dad was born in Spain to Spanish parents (my Mom is Mexican, born to Mexican parents), however, for many years I was not able to apply for Spanish citizenship because my Dad relinquished his Spanish citizenship and naturalized as Mexican before I was born, so, technically, I was born to Mexican parents. Recently, there was a change of laws in Spain because many people were in my situation (a lot of Spaniards who fled during and after the Civil War and the Franco rule relinquished their citizenship), so I applied a few years ago for recognition of my Spanish citizenship and after a very quick and straightforward process I was required to sign a pledge of allegiance to the Crown, and was then able to request a passport.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8544 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 hours ago) and read 8228 times:
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Quoting EddieDude (Reply 15):
so I applied a few years ago for recognition of my Spanish citizenship and after a very quick and straightforward process I was required to sign a pledge of allegiance to the Crown, and was then able to request a passport.

An EU passport is a wonderful thing to have! I have one because my parents are Scottish. The combination of Kiwi and British passport has come in very useful over the years. It's great to be able to pick and choose which is going to make a particular trip easier.



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User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 hours ago) and read 7994 times:

I am in complete agreement with you.

One thing though. I am living in NYC all this year for work, and because of the type of company I work for and the business we do, I am eligible for a TN visa, which is only issued to Canadian and Mexican individuals as a result of NAFTA. So, I have to use my Mexican passport to enter and leave the U.S. everytime. Anyway, it seems EU and U.S. authorities share information about passengers on U.S. bound flights, etc., because upon my arrival in JFK after my recent trip to Germany and the Czech Republic, the immigration officer said that I should consider entering and exiting the UE with my Mexican passport the next time because it is confusing to them when someone has multiple passports. WTF!!!



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
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Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5721 times:
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Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
I also had to wait for the arrival of a friend of mine and his fiancée who were going to housesit my apartment that weekend

Hey, I know that guy!



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