IberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 560 posts, RR: 40 Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7001 times:
Hi folks,
This trip report is about my flights to the a.net meeting at Frankfurt airport: on my way to Frankfurt I took a Ryanair flight to Hahn, and back to Madrid I took Lan’s A340.
I describe also the funny and hilarious boarding situation on the Ryanair flight (apparently due to AENA’s fault). Keep reading.
My flight to Hahn:
FR5454 on the 8th July 2011
Scheduled departure: 20.25
Actual departure: 21.00
Scheduled and actual arrival: 22.50
The journey began on Friday afternoon, when I took the commuter train from the railway station in Tres Cantos.
I took this train to the station of Nuevos Ministerios, in Madrid, where I took the Metro straight to terminal 1.
Metro station at terminal 1
There is about a 10-minutes walk from the Metro station to the terminal 1. After going quickly through security, I saw the departure board: departure at 20.25 at gate C42 and boarding time at 19.41
This is the view of the gate C42, before any queue was formed in front of the gate. It goes straight to a jetway, as you may see on the picture.
At about 19.15 a queue was being formed. But at the time of the scheduled boarding time, and even a few minutes later, the queue did not move. The passengers were becoming nervous as the time was passing and as the flight could be delayed. Then, at the gate it was announced that the boarding was switched to a new gate, the gate C46. And the passengers, once they heard this, began to run across the terminal and even pushing people away in order to be the first ones in the new queue. All other people in the terminal were surprised and amazed when they saw the crowd running through the terminal with the hand baggage.
Well after running to the terminal, the new queue was formed in front of gate C46, in this case the gate was one without a jetway
Once we were standing there for a while, with the screen showing “new gate” for the flight, the Ryanair agent at the gate said in Spanish: “Well, I do not trust AENA, I will call them to confirm”. After talking on the phone and confirming the gate, the agent said: “The first gate was the correct one. Please return to the first gate”.
So all the passengers began to run again, now to the first gate, and all the other people passing by were really astonished. And some passengers were trying to overtake other passengers and trying to find the best short-cut in the terminal. We were now in front of the first gate, C42, which was showing “New gate” on the screen. Some passengers were sweating and some were saying: “This is a good exercise”
I was not at the beginning of the queue, but I guess many do not know that the two emergency rows in the middle of the aircraft have more legroom, so I could easily get a window seat at one of the emergency rows (row 16).
This was the view I had from the window
A lot of legroom in the emergency exit, row 16 (and also in row 17). Btw, the flight was almost full.
Easyjet planes in terminal 1.
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View of terminal 2
An IB A340
View of terminal 4
An IB A319
Planes were heading towards the runway which is usually used for landings. The winds were towards the south, which is not so usual.
And we departed with a delay of 30 minutes. This is the view of Torrejón de Ardoz and in the back you see Alcalá de Henares.
View of the military base of Torrejón
Around Madrid
The rest of the flight was uneventful. I kept reading the Ryanair in-flight magazine and I did not order any meal. Also the passengers sitting next to me kept reading their own magazines.
During the flight, the captain said that we had good winds towards Hahn and that we would arrive on time, despite our delay of 30 minutes.
We arrived at Hahn, and we heard the trumpets announcing that our flight was on time. Actually to do this flight in just 1 hour and 50 minutes is really a good time. Also, as there is not so much air traffic around Hahn (no traffic congestion), we landed immediately. The Ryanair plane in Frankfurt.
It took about 5 minutes to get from the plane to the entrance of the bed & breakfast which is just opposite the Frankfurt Hahn terminal.
It is a very convenient hotel, with a very good price, just 48 euro per night. Also it is interesting that you do not get any key or card to enter the room. You just get a code number which is introduced on the numeric keyboard next to the room door. I took the breakfast as well, and the bus that connects Hahn with Frankfurt. It takes 90 minutes, and I arrived at Frankfurt at 10.15, at terminal 2.
I took the Skyline train to terminal 1, in order to meet Suryo, and after meeting him we went back to terminal 2, where the observation deck is located.
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Spotting
Air Canada plane
Malaysia
American
United
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Iberia A319 (my nickname here on a.net)
United
US Airways
Gulf Air
Malaysia
United
Iberia A319 ready for Madrid
China Eastern
Vietnam Airlines
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Aerologic:
Air Canada
Lunch time, burritos at the mexican restaurant next to the observation deck. It was a good meal, of course Suryo or Flying Finn, among others would agree.
Cathay
Syrian
Air France
Air Transat
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Really amazing, a great journey:
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After the amazing visit to the observation deck, where we spent some hours, it was time to head back to Madrid on Lan Chile’s fight 905 and on its A340-300. The gate is D1. And Planehunter (Udo) was also travelling to Madrid on this flight.
The boarding is not checked manually before entering the passenger area, there are the readers and access doors (as in a metro station or in an office building access). Once the bar code from the boarding card is recognized, you go through.
And this is our plane CC-CQC
View of the business class
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And this was my row, Planehunter was sitting behind me
Some artistic pictures shown on the PTVs
Legroom was ok
View from outside the window
Lufthansa Technik in Frankfurt
And departing to Madrid
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The In-flight entertainment: we got headsets from the crew, but actually I did not use the PTVS and the entertainment as I kept chatting with the Chilean woman sitting next to me, and talking about Chile and Germany (I visited Chile in 2007).
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We got the meal in this box, which included a sandwich and a Kit Kat.
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PTV
The headsets were collected about 30 minutes prior to the scheduled landing, however due to traffic congestion, we were circling around for a while on the plane
Arrival at T4S in Madrid:
The A340 parked next to a B767 from the LAN group (to Peru or Ecuador).
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And the trip ended here in Terminal 4. I went with Udo to the parking place for the hotel buses, and I helped him in order to cofirm the reservation for his hotel (where he would spend 1 night) and to find the right bus.
Cabincrewifly From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6934 times:
What a great trip report. I really don't look forward to flying at all. I like the Boeing 737 aircraft but I try to avoid them as much as possible. But I admire Micheal o' Leary for what he has done for air-travel. I will be doing my first trip report in about two weeks.
ROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1140 posts, RR: 19 Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6647 times:
Hola Eric!
Thanks for this TR. You had the best of both worlds: FR and LA, including some exercise in Barajas, maybe it was FR trick to make you all hungry and thirsty so you had to buy some food and drinks on board ; with Michael O'Leary you never know what he is after.
Luckily you got to seat in the exit row, really convenient in FR, I am surprised they are not charging for those.
The meeting looked and sounded, from your TR, and others I read, really nice, pity I could not attend when PlaneHunter told me as I had a wedding that precise day, too bad, next time.
LA has always seemed to me as a really nice airline offering a great product both in their hard and soft products.
Looking forward to your next TRs and meeting you all next time.
Salut!
Roger
"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
IberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 560 posts, RR: 40 Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6437 times:
Thanks a lot for your replies. We really enjoyed the meeting in FRA.
Roger, hopefully we can meet in another meeting. Markus told me that you are a German teacher, did not know about it. We may speak in German next time, as I have German citizenship, but I always lived in Madrid. I speak both languages (Spanish and German) fluently since I was a child.
The experience on the A340 was really good, a very good flight.
I have a bunch of pictures of a trip in C on KLM: MAD-AMS-BAH, and I always planned to write a report but I never did, it included a layover in the city of Amsterdam. Maybe next week I write this report here on a.net.
FLIEGER67 From Bulgaria, joined Sep 2003, 4424 posts, RR: 56 Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6415 times:
Hola, Eric,
that was indeed a great pleasure to meet you at FRA. Something to do again soon.
Nice pictures and interesting story.
Especially that boarding mess with FR at MAD, sounds weird to follow all that people running for the "new" gates.
Also you´re LAN flight looks good, done this also a couple of years ago from MAD to FRA.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6115 posts, RR: 56 Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6081 times:
Hi Eric!
Thanks for a nice report with nice pictures! Annoying with the gate changes at MAD but at least you got a great seat. LA looks nice and great to get a sandwich on the flight.
Looking forward to more reports from you!
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
akhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2337 posts, RR: 53 Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6016 times:
Hola Eric,
It has been a while that I read a report of yours. Thank you for taking your time write about the special occasion in FRA. Nicely written with lots of beautiful pictures. Very enjoyable!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): I describe also the funny and hilarious boarding situation on the Ryanair flight (apparently due to AENA’s fault). Keep reading.
I can hardly believe that this actually happened. It reminds me of one of Warner Brothers’ classic cartoons.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): but I guess many do not know that the two emergency rows in the middle of the aircraft have more legroom, so I could easily get a window seat at one of the emergency rows (row 16).
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): You just get a code number which is introduced on the numeric keyboard next to the room door.
Oh, did you get your room number assigned beforehand?
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): I took the Skyline train to terminal 1, in order to meet Suryo, and after meeting him we went back to terminal 2, where the observation deck is located.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): Once the bar code from the boarding card is recognized, you go through.
I just love self-boarding machines!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): I did not use the PTVS and the entertainment as I kept chatting with the Chilean woman sitting next to me, and talking about Chile and Germany (I visited Chile in 2007).
It is nice having a chatty seatmate like her, especially if you share the same interests.
Thanks again and looking forward to reading more reports of yours.
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6219 posts, RR: 79 Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5980 times:
Hi Eric,
great report with nice pictures, good to see it's online already! It was a pleasure to meet and join you on the nice LAN flight.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): Then, at the gate it was announced that the boarding was switched to a new gate, the gate C46. And the passengers, once they heard this, began to run across the terminal and even pushing people away in order to be the first ones in the new queue.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): “The first gate was the correct one. Please return to the first gate”.
So all the passengers began to run again, now to the first gate, and all the other people passing by were really astonished. And some passengers were trying to overtake other passengers and trying to find the best short-cut in the terminal. We were now in front of the first gate, C42, which was showing “New gate” on the screen. Some passengers were sweating and some were saying: “This is a good exercise”
That's quite funny indeed!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): I was not at the beginning of the queue, but I guess many do not know that the two emergency rows in the middle of the aircraft have more legroom, so I could easily get a window seat at one of the emergency rows (row 16).
I was in the middle of the queue prior to the EZY flight to CDG, but interestingly, the people in front didn't occupy any seats in the rear section.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): It is a very convenient hotel, with a very good price, just 48 euro per night. Also it is interesting that you do not get any key or card to enter the room. You just get a code number which is introduced on the numeric keyboard next to the room door. I took the breakfast as well, and the bus that connects Hahn with Frankfurt. It takes 90 minutes, and I arrived at Frankfurt at 10.15, at terminal 2.
I liked the tiny IFE box, similar to the ones used by EK. I also found the seats very comfortable.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): I went with Udo to the parking place for the hotel buses, and I helped him in order to cofirm the reservation for his hotel (where he would spend 1 night) and to find the right bus.
Thanks a lot again!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Reply 4): I have a bunch of pictures of a trip in C on KLM: MAD-AMS-BAH, and I always planned to write a report but I never did, it included a layover in the city of Amsterdam. Maybe next week I write this report here on a.net.
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8318 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5778 times:
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): After the amazing visit to the observation deck, where we spent some hours, it was time to head back to Madrid on Lan Chile’s fight 905 and on its A340-300.
Great TR! I especially enjoyed the photographs of the different wide-body a/c at FRA! It's now LAN Airlines, (not LAN Chile). LA704/LA705 now operates SCL-MAD-FRA-MAD-SCL daily.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): We got the meal in this box, which included a sandwich and a Kit Kat.
This year LAN is promoting the centennial of Machu Picchu; hence the snack box.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): The A340 parked next to a B767 from the LAN group (to Peru or Ecuador).
It's a LAN Perú B-767-316ER. LAN Perú's a/c spends 10 hours on the ground everyday at MAD in order to offer passengers a daily direct service between LIM and FRA via MAD. I'm glad you had a great trip, thanks for flying LAN!
LXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 569 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5584 times:
Hi IberiaA319
Nice report to read! I'd love to take that LA FRA-MAD or vice versa.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): And the passengers, once they heard this, began to run across the terminal and even pushing people away in order to be the first ones in the new queue.
Imagine how funny it would be if the queue would move as a queue through the terminal!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): “The first gate was the correct one. Please return to the first gate”
Now that's hilarious! It so AENA!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): I could easily get a window seat at one of the emergency rows (row 16)
Well, that's the way to go. Calmly and intelligently!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): The boarding is not checked manually before entering the passenger area, there are the readers and access doors
Wow, I love those automatic gates. A far cry from manual boarding, when they first turned the boarding pass the right, way, inserted it into the gate reader and meanwhile fumbled with your passport or ID card....
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 25129 posts, RR: 60 Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5568 times:
Hi nice report and love the LAN pics the most. Its been interesting to see the various reports from this meet. You got some nice shots there of the different metal at FRA.
Thanks for an enjoyable report.
OA260
OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ "Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΨΗΛΑ" "GREECE FLYING HIGH"
Thank you so much for the replies! It was really nice to meet all of you!!! It was such a good weekend!
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9): LA704/LA705 now operates SCL-MAD-FRA-MAD-SCL daily.
That's really good that this flight is now being operated every day. Until July 15th, the tag-on to FRA was operated every day except on Fridays (when the tag-on to CDG was cancelled), so I could not travel on LAN the day I was going to Germany.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 7): I just love self-boarding machines!
Quoting LXM83 (Reply 10): Wow, I love those automatic gates. A far cry from manual boarding, when they first turned the boarding pass the right, way, inserted it into the gate reader and meanwhile fumbled with your passport or ID card....
Yes, I would like to see them in Spain as well!
Quoting LXM83 (Reply 10): Imagine how funny it would be if the queue would move as a queue through the terminal!
Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 13): This report really makes me want to try LanChile myself
I really will try to fly LAN again. A really good service. I already travelled on LAN's A320s, when I flew from Santiago de Chile to Mendoza, Argentina (and return), back in 2007, and it was an amazing short flight, flying over the Andes mountain range with snow (it was in August, winter in the southern hemisphere).
sultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1215 posts, RR: 29 Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5048 times:
Hola IberiaA319,
Thanks for this good report! Glad you also enjoyed the a.net meet at FRA, for sure a good way to spend the day. I'll be attending next time too, you know.
What a hilarious situation on boarding for the FR flight. How come it doesn't surprise me I have no problem flying FR, but I usually pay for prio boarding to avoid this kind of boarding scrum...
Some nice spotting pics from FRA, that viewing terrace is a superb way to spend some time on!
And the return on LAN a great way to end it all. I like the meal box with the LAN advertisement on Macchu Picchu! Reminds me of my best travels ever to Peru some years ago!
CaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 588 posts, RR: 19 Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4915 times:
Hola Eric,
thanks for your interesting report to our meeting in FRA. That FR boarding was really weird, just imagine people stand there for a long while at the front of the queue to get onboard first and then this But hey, this is the Ryanair experience, even if it wasn't their fault this time.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): It was a good meal, of course Suryo or Flying Finn, among others would agree.
Indeed, I agree as well, as the other plate on your picture was my meal
Nice to read about that LAN flight, it really makes me want to take this flight as well. It is certainly something special. Well, maybe later this year, we'll see...
Anyway it was a real pleasure to meet you there in FRA
CaptainRed
airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4068 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4772 times:
Hi Eric
really nice to read your report on FR and LAN. Indeed, people would think the gate issues in MAD are fault of FR, but they also can't help this since it's airport matter. Quite funny... this always happens to FR flights, so it seems
I even thought EC-KBX would suit good for royal Dutch plane for the royal family. It has already some orange colours, EC would be replaced by PH- (we have PH-KBX, Fokker 70 now), and the A319 is a bit more 'aircraft' compared to our tiny F70.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 7): It looks like an A320 to me.
But it's definitely an A319.
Meal on LAN was better a few years ago when I took the flight, but still, this is quite good. Although I think LH serves a hot meal on this sector? (I got a hot meal on LH MUC-MAD).
Regards
Eric
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
Yes right. On the departure board at Barajas and at the gate (as shown on the pictures), the destination is announced as "Frankfurt". Travellers may think the flight really goes to FRA...
Quoting SPLTA (Reply 18): Interestingly, you had much better legroom when on FR's 737 than when on LA's 340
Yes, the good thing is that even when almost all the passengers got into the plane to Hahn there were still one or two seats available at the emergency rows, and one of the very last passengers to board the aircraft still got a seat in these rows with more legroom.
FlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1705 posts, RR: 41 Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4508 times:
Hola Eric,
Finally got around reading this report! A nice way to combine two completely different carriers for your trip to our meet at FRA - the nastiest of all the budget, short haul carriers, and a traditional flag carrier flying a long haul aircraft.
Those LAN flights between MAD and FRA sure are fun.
It was nice meeting you there, albeit only for such a brief time, but that's the way these things go. Let's see when the next time will be...
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): Lunch time, burritos at the mexican restaurant next to the observation deck. It was a good meal, of course Suryo or Flying Finn, among others would agree.
Yeah well, quite mediocre and industrial food if you ask me, but it served its purpose as providing more fuel for the important things happening that day
As a side note I think I once got food poisoning from that very same restaurant, I think that was back in 2007.
Quoting IberiaA319 (Thread starter): It is a very convenient hotel, with a very good price, just 48 euro per night. Also it is interesting that you do not get any key or card to enter the room
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5858 posts, RR: 40 Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4278 times:
Great Report!
Quoting IberiaA319 (Reply 14): I really will try to fly LAN again. A really good service. I already travelled on LAN's A320s, when I flew from Santiago de Chile to Mendoza, Argentina (and return), back in 2007, and it was an amazing short flight, flying over the Andes mountain range with snow (it was in August, winter in the southern hemisphere).
next friday I will be on a Mendoza - Santiago - Lima flight with LAN but hopefully on a A318 as scheduled.
Have to say LAN is a good airline and I am travelling a lot with them, but on the midrange flights in SouthAmerica they should provide a much better service!