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To The A.Net Meeting And Back On EW/LH/LO  
User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6362 times:

Introduction

Although I had been reading this great forum for many years, it was only about a month ago I joined the community. When Flieger67 told me about the meeting, I thought it would be great to meet some A.Net veterans. I had some hesitations first, as the fares were really expensive, but then I decided I would go. It was quite a challenge to get suitable connection without exceeding the budget I had planned for the trip, but luckily succeeded in finding one.

Warsaw to Frankfurt
Leg no.1.
WAW-DUS
LH 3021 operated by Eurowings (first time on the carrier)
Gate: 025 (027)
SDT-SAT: 0900-1045
A/c type: Canadair RJ 900 (first time on the type)
A/c reg: D-ACNT
Seat no. 9 F

I arrive at the airport at 0800. When inside terminal building I notice it’s surprisingly busy for a Saturday morning. Having done OLCI I proceed straight to the security. Due to relatively long line, it takes me ten minutes to get through. Getting to gate 025 is a breeze as it is situated exactly opposite the security, one has only to go through the retail to reach it. There has been some change, as the board at the gate indicates OK777 to Prague. I must find the gate, but I feel that first I should empty my bladder. When on the way to the loo I discover that newly assigned gate for my flight is neighbouring gate 027.


After the visit to the restroom I sit at the gate and take a look at the apron. I spot my today’s ride pulling in at the remote stand next to MA’s DH4 sporting retro livery. Soon the boarding begins and we go down the stairs to the bus. After a short drive we park next our today’s ride.


When entering the aircraft I say “Hello” to the purser, but she seems not to notice me, as she’s looking towards the cockpit at the moment. I move on and spot some reading material in the overhead bin above the first row. There’s only one Polish title, a local daily newspaper “Życie Warszawy”. A strange choice, if you ask me, but I grab one nevertheless. I settle in my seat and take a look around. The interior is in a immaculate condition, the leather grey seats look really nice. The cabin is reasonable airy, but I feel really cramped in my seat. The legroom is fantastic, but it’s width limited by the side wall that ruins the whole experience.


Soon the boarding is completed, the purser comes over the PA and gives us a welcome speech. Unfortunately this is followed by announcement from the cockpit advising us that we have missed our slot and we have to wait for the next 10mins. Nothing happens for a longer while, so I decide to check the latest news, but nothing interesting, as expected. Finally (I think it was much longer than announced 10mins) it’s time for the safety demo. It is performed in English and German. Next the tape in Polish is being played, but it makes no sense at this point, as the demo has been already done.
After a 5mins taxi we stop next to RWY 33. We wait for K2’s AT5 to land and enter the runway. Take off is rather powerful and in no time we are airborne. Soon “fasten the seatbelt” sign is switched off and the FAs begin the service. We are offered “Kölln” branded muesli, which I decline. After a short while the drink service begins. The FA serving me is quite friendly. When I choose OJ, she asks me if I would also like to have coffee or tea. I stick to the juice, though.


The weather is nice as we are cruising above Western Poland, so I enjoy the views for a while.


Then I decide to take a look into Lufthansa’s magazine. To keep it longer in a good condition, it is packed (together with safety card) in a plastic bag.


I read the article on the 747-8, which is quite interesting. I had no idea that it was LH management that encouraged Boeing to built the aircraft. The rest of the flight is uneventful. The western we go the cloudier it gets.


Soon we start our descent towards DUS and touch down on RWY 23L around 1110. During the taxi I notice some aircraft I don’t see on regular basis, such as KM’s 319, AB’s 332 and LH’s 333. After a while we reach remote stands, take right and stop among some other Eurowings’ CR9s. The apron on the other side of the taxi way is exclusively LH Regional territory. I say goodbye to the purser and head to the awaiting bus. Interestingly, it is not Cobus, but Solaris sporting a steal grey livery. We get to the terminal building at 1115 and I quickly climb the stairs heading to the entrance for transferring passengers.

Leg no.2.
DUS-FRA
LH 079 (first time on the carrier)
Gate: A71
SDT-SAT: 1200-1255
A/c type: Boeing 737-500
A/c reg: D-ABIA
Seat no. 20 F

I reach gate A71 in no time, as it is situated very close to the entrance. Since there is still some ten minutes to boarding time, I visit the restroom located on the upper level. When back at the gate I sit and take a look around. The place is somewhat gloomy, as natural light is limited, due to small size of the windows.


The boarding begins at 1140. At the door I am greeted by a friendly purser. I go down the aisle and take my seat 20 F. Since the impressions from previous flight are still very fresh, the interior seems to be extremely spacious. The cabin is well maintained, but it shows its’ age. The old style seat is really comfortable. Although I’m sitting in the second to the last row the seat pitch is more than fine.


At first, the last rows rule seems to work as seats next to me remains empty.


I am taking the picture of our neighbour, D-AIZD, when a family of four arrives at my row. Daddy and one daughter take two seats on the opposite side of the aisle while mummy and second daughter, aged about 5-6, sit next to me.
It is 1200 when I can hear purser advising the cockpit that boarding is completed, but nothing happens for next 5-10 minutes. The little girl gets bored and her mum does great job keeping her busy by means of Lufthansa branded “Optische Täuschungen” (optical illusion) cards.
Couple of minutes later captain comes over the PA and informs us that we have to wait a longer while for the pushback, because the skies are exceptionally congested this Saturday due to increased traffic in the direction to the Mediterranean destinations. It is estimated that we would arrive at FRA at 1310. Connecting passengers are advised that their onward flights would not depart without them. Not good news at all. It is especially not welcomed, as PH was so kind and agreed to wait for me after his arrival from NUE, so we would go together to the meeting point. I switch omy mobile on and text PH informing him about the delay.
Meanwhile my little seatmate has gone through all the cards and starts to show some signs of impatience. When she reaches for the safety card her mum takes advantage of her interest and gives daughter a private safety briefing. Once it’s done she summarises her some article from LH Magazine. I am truly impressed with woman’s skills to keep little lady entertained.
Soon the purser gives an announcement that we are about to be pushed back. It’s followed by the safety demo. We taxi for a while and unexpectedly take position on the stand situated in the middle of the apron. We let some aircraft through and then continue our taxi to the active. When we leave the stand I see five planes in the line ahead of us, so it takes us quite some time to get to RWY 23L. During the taxi I spot an interesting round shaped building with a viewing deck overlooking both runways’ thresholds (when home I have learned it’s the airport railway station biulding). We wait for TK’s 32S wearing *S livery to touch down and it’s our turn to go. The take off roll is one of the most powerful I have ever experienced.
Once airborne we do lots of turns before we level up and “fasten seat belt” sign is switched off. The weather is fine, just a bit cloudy.


We fly straight for a longer while and then do some more manoeuvring. Couple of minutes later there is an announcement from the cockpit. It’s rather unclear, due to the noise in the cabin and somewhat crackling speakers, so the only things I get is the temperature in FRA (27C) and “thank you for your attention”.
I’ m enjoying the views outside when I notice a nice formation of thick white clouds.


We get some relatively mild turbulences as we are flying into the clouds and in no time “fasten the seat belt” sign is switched back on. Shortly after the purser comes over the PA informing us we are about to start our descent towards FRA. At this point the ride gets really bumpy. After a longer while we leave the clouds and the turbulences get much smoother. I enjoy the views when we are overflying the city of Frankfurt. We continue our cruise along the Main river for a while and next we take a 180 degree U turn. Some more correcting turns and we line up for our approach to RWY. Unfortunately, it gets very bumpy again and my little seatmate has to use a sick bag. I notice her mum is looking for another one, so I offer mine. Luckily the crises is gone, so no need to use it.
Soon we touch down and after a rather short taxi we pull in at gate B10.


When I switch my mobile on I see I got some new messages including one from PH, who, despite the delay, has kindly decided to wait for me and one from Flieger67, informing me that guys are waiting at Mc Donald’s next to the viewing deck entrance. There’ s no time to wait, so I quickly make my way down the aisle, say goodbye to the purser and leave the aircraft. It’s my first time at FRA, so I carefully follow the signs and soon get the right direction. I’m walking quickly down the corridor, when am halted by policemen blocking the passage leading to the exit. I approach one of them and he informs me that it will take ca. 10mins before they let people through. Great! Luckily it is more like 5mins, so soon I find myself landside. I take a stroll along the hall looking for PH, but I can’t see him. I decide to stop at some characteristic point and give him my position. Soon U. shows up there. We greet each other and go up the stairs to the Skyline train. It is a short ride to Terminal 2 and after a while we join the rest of the group gathered in the food court. We exchange our greetings and it is time to go to the viewing deck.
I have a great time shared between having many interesting chats with enthusiasts from all over Europe and some spotting. FRA is definitely a spotters’ paradise. The number of movements and variety of aircraft and airlines is simply amazing!




There's only one ruler in FRA, though.


Thanks to Flieger67, we have also possibility to visit a spotting place next to RWY18. I’m in a second (?) group he gets there today. Unfortunately, after a while it starts to rain, so we head back to the terminal building where we thank for the drive and bid him farewell, since he is already going back home. When we are about to re enter the viewing terrace we encounter the rest of the group who has decided to go for some drinks. We sit in the bar, so there is time for some additional talks about airlines/aircrafts flown, places seen and plans for the future. All too soon we say our goodbyes, as it’s time to leave for our respective flights / train rides home.

Frankfurt to Warsaw
FRA-WAW
LO380
Gate:B1
SDT-SAT: 2055-2240
A/c type: Embraer 175
A/c reg: SP-LIM
Seat no. 9 A

Almost no line to the security so I am through in about 5mins. I reach the gate, buy the coke in a vending machine and quench my thirst. Then I decide to explore the surroundings. There is not many facilities in the area. Small bistro/cafe , one retail and (hip hip hooray !) “Camel Smoking Zone’’ booth. First I pay a visit to the shop where I buy some sweets for my beloved wife. Later I wait a bit till the booth gets empty (it is much smaller than the one in ZRH) and have a cigarette. When I get back to the gate I notice it has become relatively crowded, so I take one of left seats and make some notes for this report. The boarding commences bang on time. Since I am pretty tired I decide to board without further delay, in order to get seat on the bus. After a short while we move to the remote stand. And “remote” should be read literally in this case. Our aircraft is parked in the furthest part of the apron, situated behind a gas station, ground equipment depot etc. It’s a enjoyable ride nevertheless, as we are passing by many interesting planes from the Gulf region (Oman Air, Ethihad, Emirates). Finally we pull in next to our today’s ride SP-LIM. Interestingly, it is possible to board both through the front and the rear door.


Having seat 9 A I board through the front door. I am greeted by the purser and offered on newspapers which I accept. I go to my seat to learn it is already taken. I tell the guy sitting there he has mistaken the seats and he moves to the aisle seat. Apparently the man, who has asked him to switch the seats, so he could sit next to the son, has given him wrong info regarding his original seat number.
Once settled I take a look around. The interior is clean and well maintained. The leather dark blue seats look fine. The seat pitch is pretty good, though tighter than on both flights I took earlier today. Luckily, the width is no issue, so it’s way more comfortable than on Eurowings’ CRJ.


Then I take a last picture at FRA. Note ground equipment depot building on the right.


Some minutes later the bus with second group of passengers pulls in next to the aircraft. Some smooth melody is being played throughout boarding process. It is completed at 2050. I take one more look around the cabin. I spot only handful of open seats in economy. First two and a half row constitute business class section, but there is only one seat occupied.
Soon the purser gives a welcome speech in Polish and English informing us that our flight is predicted to last 1h25mins. It is followed by the German version played from the tape, which obviously doesn’t contain info on flight time. Next manual safety demo is performed and afterwards we begin our taxi towards RWY18.
For two reasons it is a spectacular experience for me. Firstly, it seems the longest taxi distance-wise ever. We have a really long way to cover: first we head in direction to the terminal, then we take left and taxi perpendicular to the runways 25/7, next take right and continue all the way along RWY 25/7 L to RWY 18. Secondly, it is definitely the fastest speed-wise ever. Especially when on the taxi way parallel to RWY 25/7 L we reach a really high speeds. Once we reach RWY 18 we take left and perform a rolling, powerful take off. Shortly after the wheels go up we take left and I notice the next aircraft already getting airborne. I think local traffic controllers deserve the highest admiration. They are doing a really good job!
Soon the “fasten seat belt” sign is switched off and we are informed that in-flight service is to commence in couple of minutes. We are flying above thick layer of clouds when cabin crew begin the service.


First refreshing towels are handed out.


The meal service follows. It consists of a cheese sandwich and Prince Polo chocolate bar. A for drinks, we are offered wines, beer, soft drinks, coffee and tea. I decide to take tomato juice and tea. The sandwich is really tasty, mostly thanks to delicious spicy tomato dressing.



Both cabin crew members are friendly, but it’s middle aged purser, whose job I’m observing with a pleasure. She approaches the passengers with a true courtesy and attention. She speaks slowly and the tone of her voice is warm. It reminds me of good old days, when stewardess (as it used to be referred to) was an elite occupation.
When I’ m enjoying the meal, the captain comes over the PA and gives us some information on the flight. At the moment we are cruising above Prague at the level of 11000 feet, at the speed of 800 km/h. It is estimated that we will land at WAW in 50mins, the temperature in Warsaw is nice 20C.
Some minutes later I feel we are starting our descent. Soon, it is confirmed by an announcement in Polish, English and German version played from the tape. “Fasten seat belt sign” is switched back on and the lights in the cabin are dimmed.
Now the fun begins! The 3-4 years old kid sitting in front of me starts to cry piercingly. At first I am lenient with his shouting. “Poor boy, got scared”, I think. However, my sympathy is all gone, when I notice, that the more his mum tries to calm him down, the louder (can’t believe it’s possible) he screams. Even a soothing voice of the purser and the bribe in the form extra chocolate bar and drink doesn’t work. It gets really unbearable at one point. Unfortunately, there’s nothing I can do, but patiently go through these tortures. I look around and see other passengers seem to be at the edge of nervous breakdown. The guy sitting on the other side of the aisle puts his fingers into his ear-wholes, but judging by expression of his face, it is not a very effective method. The kid’s sirens accompany us all the way to WAW where we touch down on RWY 33 at 2230. In fact, he doesn’t stop crying till we stop at the remote position. Then, the “fingers in the ear-wholes” guy starts a short discussion with mother of the kid. She answers his criticism with the suggestions that he should/colud have rented private jet or travelled in business class. Especially the latter seems to be missed, as I am sure it wouldn’t have helped even if flying on an aircraft of the size of 747, not to mention little E175. Anyway, we soon de-board go to awaiting bus.


I have just taken very last picture of our today’s ride, when I see the purser running down the stairs with a copy of the book in her hand. She approaches the bus and asks who of us has been sitting in seat X, because that person has left the book in the seat-pocket. Nobody answers, but I can hear giggling at the back of the bus and American (judging by the accent) woman saying her companion that it’s hers, but she has left it there on purpose, because she has finished it anyway. I feel sorry for the purser, so I deliberately take the book from her and pass it to the owner. Also, I don’t think the cabin of the aircraft is a proper place to dispose of unwanted book. No guarantee the book hasn’t been left on the bus, though, since I am the first person to leave it. I take a quick walk down empty corridors, pass through deserted baggage claim and get landside. I go outside the terminal and wait for Mrs SPLTA to pick me up. Soon she arrives and after some 15 mins drive I’m home.

Conclusions

WAW-DUS flight on Eurowings was OK. It was delayed, but I made it on time for my connecting flight. Although I skipped the meal, I think it was just fine for the length of the flight. Regarding the cabin crew, they seemed not to have paticularly enjoyed their job. However, they were friendly when serving passengers, so no complains there. As for the aircraft, the cabin looked fine and it was in immaculate condition. The only, but major issue is a seating comfort in the window seat. Next time when to fly on CRJ I have to make sure to choose aisle seat.
DUS-FRA flight on Lufthansa was also delayed, but one can’t help ATC restrictions. No drinks/snacks were served on the short short hop, which surprised me, but was no problem at all. Due to the lack of the service I can’t tell much about the cabin crew. Although showing its’ age the cabin was in good condition, old style seats were comfortable, and the seat pitch in the last rows more than good.
FRA-WAW sector on LOT was a standard intra-European flight. It was on time, the meal was tasty and sufficient. Regarding the cabin crew, the purser was just great. Sadly, this kind of personnel seem to belong to endangered species nowadays. The FA was also friendly and professional, but she’s definitely not in the same league as her older colleague. As for the aircraft, flying on LO E175s was a nice experience. Spacious cabin, decent legroom, clean interior. Having experienced flight on CR9, I can tell LOT made an excellent choice regarding their regional fleet, at least from passenger’s stand point.

It was great pleasure meeting other enthusiasts. I had truly fantastic time that Saturday afternoon. It’s a shame I arrived when the meeting reached its’ midpoint and had no opportunities to have a chat with all participants. I hope to have opportunity to catch up when attending the next meeting.

Last, but not least I would like to thank Flieger67 for notifying me about the meeting, as well as for arranging things with viewing deck visit and for the drive to the spotting place. Also, I would like to thank PlaneHunter for waiting for me, in spite of late arrival of my flight from DUS.
Noch einmal, vielen Dank!

Thank you for reading, I hope you enjoyed it. Your feedback is much appreciated.

Regards,
SPLTA

23 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1070 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6313 times:

LOT seems nice for short hops. I am not so sure though about long haul based on what I have read.

User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4208 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6311 times:

hi SPLTA!

Really nice to read your flights to the meet. Nice combo of aircraft and airlines!

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
The cabin is reasonable airy, but I feel really cramped in my seat. The legroom is fantastic, but it’s width limited by the side wall that ruins the whole experience.

I always enjoy these CR9's, don't have this feeling. But I somehow always managed to get 2 seats for me (no neighbour), maybe that's creating the better feeling.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
A/c type: Embraer 175
A/c reg: SP-LIM

Nice one! Still missing here... seems that I have to try my luck on LOT some day.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
At the moment we are cruising above Prague at the level of 11000 feet

Hmm,... 11,000ft? (Something wrong with the a/c pressure system or so?!   )I guess you meant 11000 m?

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
The kid’s sirens accompany us all the way to WAW where we touch down on RWY 33 at 2230. In fact, he doesn’t stop crying till we stop at the remote position. Then, the “fingers in the ear-wholes” guy starts a short discussion with mother of the kid. She answers his criticism with the suggestions that he should/colud have rented private jet or travelled in business class.

Ah, I would have started a discussion also. She better stays at home herself with that irritating child. I've had similar flights, and indeed passengers get really annoyed. Or how about seated in Business Class,... the curtain won't stop the noise, so bye bye to her and her stupid advise.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
A/c type: Boeing 737-500
A/c reg: D-ABIA

Nice! I flew this machine in 2010 also, FRA-AMS. Really good looking machine, especially considering it's a real oldie in the fleet.

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1582 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6292 times:
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Hi SPLTA!

Very nice report. Lucky you: a CRJ900 and E175 in 1 day, a good score!
These 'meeting' reports keep on flowing in on the forum. It's nice to see what carriers and flight every one of you have taken to get there.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Unfortunately this is followed by announcement from the cockpit advising us that we have missed our slot and we have to wait for the next 10mins

Any explanation given or just 'ATC'?

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
When entering the aircraft I say “Hello” to the purser, but she seems not to notice me, as she’s looking towards the cockpit at the moment.

Hmm, not so good to not return a passenger's greeting. Not so common on LH either...

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
At the door I am greeted by a friendly purser.

Now, that's better!

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
I am truly impressed with woman’s skills to keep little lady entertained.

I think I would try the same with my kids, it can be a difficult 'job' sometimes  

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Our aircraft is parked in the furthest part of the apron, situated behind a gas station

I know the place and yes, that's indeed a drive away. And a long taxi to rwy 18 as well.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
The 3-4 years old kid sitting in front of me starts to cry piercingly

I can understand that crying children are sometimes a real nuisance. Maybe he/she had troubles clearing the ears on descent? Happens a lot with children and I experienced this also one when flying with an infected throat. I could not clear my ears and I can tell you it is very painful...

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Also, I don’t think the cabin of the aircraft is a proper place to dispose of unwanted book

You are totally right. A true lack of respect for the maintenance crew.

   Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6658 posts, RR: 78
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6251 times:

Hi SPLTA,

great report about your trip to/from FRA! It was a pleasure meeting you there.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
I read the article on the 747-8, which is quite interesting.

I did exactly the same on my NUE-FRA flight. Can't wait to try this new LH bird!

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
when home I have learned it’s the airport railway station biulding

It's a great place, good for indoor and outdoor spotting.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Now the fun begins! The 3-4 years old kid sitting in front of me starts to cry piercingly. At first I am lenient with his shouting. “Poor boy, got scared”, I think. However, my sympathy is all gone, when I notice, that the more his mum tries to calm him down, the louder (can’t believe it’s possible) he screams. Even a soothing voice of the purser and the bribe in the form extra chocolate bar and drink doesn’t work. It gets really unbearable at one point. Unfortunately, there’s nothing I can do, but patiently go through these tortures. I look around and see other passengers seem to be at the edge of nervous breakdown. The guy sitting on the other side of the aisle puts his fingers into his ear-wholes, but judging by expression of his face, it is not a very effective method. The kid’s sirens accompany us all the way to WAW where we touch down on RWY 33 at 2230. In fact, he doesn’t stop crying till we stop at the remote position. Then, the “fingers in the ear-wholes” guy starts a short discussion with mother of the kid. She answers his criticism with the suggestions that he should/colud have rented private jet or travelled in business class.

That sounds horrible!

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
No drinks/snacks were served on the short short hop, which surprised me, but was no problem at all.

The flight, just like FRA-NUE, more or less consists of climb and descent, the time for serving drinks is very limited.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Also, I would like to thank PlaneHunter for waiting for me, in spite of late arrival of my flight from DUS.
Noch einmal, vielen Dank!

You're welcome!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSebb89 From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6247 times:

Siema,

this report is great and nice to read. Gives a nice overview about EW and LO  

Pzdr//greetings


User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6201 times:

Hi SPLTA,

nice job with your report, it was a pleasure to read.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
I’m walking quickly down the corridor, when am halted by policemen blocking the passage leading to the exit. I approach one of them and he informs me that it will take ca. 10mins before they let people through.

The same thing happened to me, I arrived to the terminal and the corridor was already blocked. We were let through in about 10 minutes. Strange.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
The 3-4 years old kid sitting in front of me starts to cry piercingly.

There was a Spanish girl on my LJU-FRA flight that did the same, she was seating behind me and started crying during our approach. At one point my ears were almost tearing apart from all that noise.

Thanks again for writing the report, we have quite a large collection of TRs from our FRA meeting.

Blaž



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User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6095 times:

Hello Guys,

thanks for the your comments!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Really nice to read your flights to the meet.
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
Very nice report.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
great report about your trip to/from FRA!
Quoting Sebb89 (Reply 5):
this report is great and nice to read.
Quoting SloAir (Reply 6):
nice job with your report, it was a pleasure to read.

Thanks, glad you liked it.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Ah, I would have started a discussion also. She better stays at home herself with that irritating child. I've had similar flights, and indeed passengers get really annoyed. Or how about seated in Business Class,... the curtain won't stop the noise, so bye bye to her and her stupid advise.
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
I can understand that crying children are sometimes a real nuisance. Maybe he/she had troubles clearing the ears on descent? Happens a lot with children and I experienced this also one when flying with an infected throat. I could not clear my ears and I can tell you it is very painful...
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
That sounds horrible!

I understand, boy's just a kid, but listening to his piercing scream for so long was a real torture. As for his mum, I think she should have apologised, explaining the son got scared, felt pain, etc., instead of jumping on the guy.

@ lychemsa

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 1):
LOT seems nice for short hops. I am not so sure though about long haul based on what I have read.

LO provides a really good service on intra-European flights. As for long hauls, have no experience there. Also have read some not so enthusiastic opinions. I think it's because of the outdated cabins of 763s. Hopefully things get improved noticeable, once LO gets their 787.

@ airbuseric

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
always enjoy these CR9's, don't have this feeling. But I somehow always managed to get 2 seats for me (no neighbour), maybe that's creating the better feeling.

Yes, I'm sure having had both seats for myself would have made a big difference.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Nice one! Still missing here... seems that I have to try my luck on LOT some day.

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be dissapointed. Great plane and good service.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Hmm,... 11,000ft? (Something wrong with the a/c pressure system or so?! )I guess you meant 11000 m?

Of course, I meant 11000 m! Thanks for correcting me!

@ Sultanils

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
Any explanation given or just 'ATC'?

Nope, just missed slot.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
Hmm, not so good to not return a passenger's greeting. Not so common on LH either...

Certainly, not the best first impression. The flight was OK, though.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
I think I would try the same with my kids, it can be a difficult 'job' sometimes

I have no kids myself, but can imagine it's a real challenge. That's why I was full of admiration for mother's "job".

@ PH

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
It was a pleasure meeting you there.

It was a pleasure meeting you, too!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
It's a great place, good for indoor and outdoor spotting.

Great location! Having also viewing deck in the terminal building, DUS seems to be spotters' superfriendly airport.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
The flight, just like FRA-NUE, more or less consists of climb and descent, the time for serving drinks is very limited.

That's why lack of the service is no problem at all, in my opinion.

@ SloAir

Quoting SloAir (Reply 6):
The same thing happened to me, I arrived to the terminal and the corridor was already blocked. We were let through in about 10 minutes. Strange.

When back at FRA I thought it was due to some unattended baggage or something like that. After reading your TR I would have guessed they regulate passenger flows to avoid congestions in certain parts of the terminal.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 6):
At one point my ears were almost tearing apart from all that noise.

After what I went through on my inbound flight I can say that I know exactly what you mean.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 6):
we have quite a large collection of TRs from our FRA meeting.

Nice collection, indeed. And there are still some to come ( I hope).

Thank you all for reading and the feedback!

Regards/Pozdrawiam
SPLTA


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 2985 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6076 times:

Another good read about the FRA meet   Good combination of flights too.

Seems you saw both well and badly behaved children, and prepared / not prepared parents. But even then, children do sometimes have a mind of their own, as you saw, not even chocolate could console that one. Also at that age, it is difficult for the child to explain why they are upset.

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently onlineBurj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 900 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

Nice trip report! I'm always amazed that people actually get fed on these short European flights!

The book thing is interesting. I have heard of people doing this type of thing, but usually in hotel lobbies or airport gate areas and always with a note saying something like "I'm done reading this book, please take it and enjoy reading it and leave it for another traveler when you are done"

Underneath this is a list of names, dates, and locations.... Some books managed to travel quite a bit! But again this only works if you leave it in a busy place where is it likely to get picked up by another traveler....

It is pretty impressive that the cabin crew found it and made an effort to try to reunite it with its owner!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5023 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5769 times:

Czesc, M.,

what a nice compilation of aircraft and planes around you´re FRA meeting trip.
Well done, also the pictures.
Especially that LO E75, congrats, not thay easy to catch.
Been also at DUS LH terminal, sure a small and cramped area, something to improve soon.
Looking forward to more stories from you´re hand, you know.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Last, but not least I would like to thank Flieger67 for notifying me about the meeting, as well as for arranging things with viewing deck visit and for the drive to the spotting place.

You´re welcome, you know, pretty good to see you at FRA again.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Is there something new for the new countries?.
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26520 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5627 times:

Hey nice read on the Anet meet. Welcome to the forum.   Loved the E Jet pics of LOT ! Makes me want to part with some cash and fly them  

Look forward to future reports.

OA260  



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User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5598 times:

Hello,

always nice to see some more comments.

Quoting signol (Reply 8):
Another good read about the FRA meet
Quoting Burj (Reply 9):
Nice trip report!
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10):
Well done, also the pictures.

Thanks for your kind words. Happy you enjoyed it.

@ signol

Quoting signol (Reply 8):
Seems you saw both well and badly behaved children...

Very fair comment. Regardless the reasons of boy's behaviour, it was a really terrible experience.

@Burj

Quoting Burj (Reply 9):
I have heard of people doing this type of thing, but usually...

Also heard of similar thing. There is/was a cafe in Warsaw one can leave read/take "new" books. Pretty good idea, as in Poland, although not luxury goods, books tend to be pretty expensive.

Quoting Burj (Reply 9):
It is pretty impressive that the cabin crew found it and made an effort to try to reunite it with its owner!

She was really great! I felt it wouldn't have been fair if all her effort had gone wasted, so I passed the book to the owner.

@ Flieger67

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10):
Especially that LO E75, congrats, not thay easy to catch.

Thanks, it's all so relative, though. It wasn't my first and surely not the last ride on E75, as the type is strong in LO's fleet. On the other hand, I took my first CRJ flight on that occasion. It must sound strange/unbelievable to, say SloAir, with the type being backbone of JP's fleet.

Thank you all for reading and the feedback!

Regards,
SPLTA


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

Hi, SPLTA!

Nice to read about your flights to and from our little meet at FRA.

Some solid flights with the LH group and a nice E175 with LOT - what more could you really want. Looks like I wasn't the only one coming from DUS to FRA that morning, although you certainly did it with more style and in a much more appropriate way! :=

Sorry, we never really had a chance to really chat at all - too many people, confusion and too many interesting things to watch, but that's the way these things go. I'm sure the next time will be better, let's see when I will be passing through Warsaw again!


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1804 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5381 times:
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Hi SPLTA, good to see another report around the meeting. Eurowings staff is different from the usual LH staff if you ask me. Their CR9's are brand new though! It was nice meeting you in FRA.

Let me know next time you're around AMS!

Best regards,

Martijn



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User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5273 times:

Hi guys,

good to have some additional feedback!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
Hey nice read on the Anet meet.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Nice to read about your flights to and from our little meet at FRA.
Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 14):
Hi SPLTA, good to see another report around the meeting.

Thanks, glad you liked it.

@ OA260

Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
Welcome to the forum.

Thank you!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
Loved the E Jet pics of LOT ! Makes me want to part with some cash and fly them

Well, then do it! I remember reading your TR covering the trip you took shortly before closing DUB route. You seemed to have enjoyed it, IIRC.

@FF

Let me know when in WAW, will be glad to show you around.

@ CrimsonNL

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 14):
Eurowings staff is different from the usual LH staff if you ask me.

As for LH, I basically I can comment only on the purser, but he was way more enthusiastic than his Eurowing's counterparts. When I come to think about it, I'd say there is the same thing with C3 staff and LX staff.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 14):
It was nice meeting you in FRA.

It was a pleasure meeting you, too.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 14):
Let me know next time you're around AMS!

I will. Also let me know, when around WAW.

Regards,
SPLTA


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2433 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 5141 times:

Hi SPLTA,

Very nice report. Wow, I did not know that you made a detour via DUS on your inbound segment. Look what you got! A flight with B737-500. Do you know that Lufthansa is about to phase out the B735’s ?

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
We are offered “Kölln” branded muesli, which I decline.

What was it? A muesli bar or a bowl with muesli and yogurt?

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
When I choose OJ, she asks me if I would also like to have coffee or tea. I stick to the juice, though.

That is my Lufthansa. Nice and caring!  


Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
During the taxi I notice some aircraft I don’t see on regular basis, such as KM’s 319, AB’s 332 and LH’s 333.

Did the sight not whet your appetite to fly onwards to FRA?   


Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
the only things I get is the temperature in FRA (27C)

Really? I did not realize it was that warm in FRA.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
It’s a enjoyable ride nevertheless, as we are passing by many interesting planes from the Gulf region (Oman Air, Ethihad, Emirates

I would have enjoyed the ride as well. The sight of either Emirates or Qatar is just thrilling.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Apparently the man, who has asked him to switch the seats, so he could sit next to the son, has given him wrong info regarding his original seat number.

Could the man have been forgiven for giving a wrong information?

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Soon the purser gives a welcome speech in Polish and English informing us that our flight is predicted to last 1h25mins. It is followed by the German version played from the tape

Funny, it was the other way around in comparison with your Eurowings flight.  


Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
The 3-4 years old kid sitting in front of me starts to cry piercingly. At first I am lenient with his shouting. “Poor boy, got scared”, I think. However, my sympathy is all gone, when I notice, that the more his mum tries to calm him down, the louder (can’t believe it’s possible) he screams. Even a soothing voice of the purser and the bribe in the form extra chocolate bar and drink doesn’t work. It gets really unbearable at one point
It must have been torturing. What was wrong with the kid?

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
feel sorry for the purser, so I deliberately take the book from her and pass it to the owner.

Bravo! That would teach them a lesson!   


Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
It’s a shame I arrived when the meeting reached its’ midpoint and had no opportunities to have a chat with all participants.

I did not have any chance either to chat longer with you. On the next opportunity, I will come directly to you.

Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed your companion even it was for a short period.

Best wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

Hello Suryo,

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Do you know that Lufthansa is about to phase out the B735’s ?

Yes, I do. I seem to have scored it just in time!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
What was it? A muesli bar or a bowl with muesli and yogurt?

It was a package containing a bowl + a small bottle of milk, I believe.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Did the sight not whet your appetite to fly onwards to FRA?

I assume it's intended to be a rethorical question  .

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
It must have been torturing. What was wrong with the kid?

It surely was. I guess he was simply very tired at that point, as it was the last leg of their jorney from the US.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
I did not have any chance either to chat longer with you. On the next opportunity, I will come directly to you.

Nice! Till next time, then.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
I really enjoyed your companion even it was for a short period.

It was pleasure meeting you too.

Thanks for the comments.

Regards,
SPLTA


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4967 times:

Hi SPLTA!

Nice report with nice pictures!

All flights look nice and nice for you to get a ride on a 735 since they are not co common anymore.

Glad you had a good time at the meeting and too bad I couldn't make it. Hopefully next time!

The777Man



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User currently offlineeco From Bulgaria, joined Nov 2010, 83 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

Hi SPLTA,
I just finished reading you trip report. It's very nice.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
When entering the aircraft I say “Hello” to the purser, but she seems not to notice me, as she’s looking towards the cockpit at the moment.

Same thing happened to me on 7 LH flights this year.

Regards,
Eco


User currently offlineparton87 From Sweden, joined Sep 2008, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

Hello SPLTA!

Thanks for the great story. I enjoyed the reading and pictures very much. I have flown on LH and LOT several times and have only good things to say about both airlines! What did you think about DUS? I was there for the first time in January this year and I can´t say I like it very much. Quit old and cramped and not so good spotting-opportunities! I also think that the airport have a lack of restrooms, huge lines at everyone, atleast when I was there.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
suitable connection without exceeding the budget I had planned for the trip, but luckily succeeded in finding one.

The bad thing when booking quit close to the dep date. But I usually prefer that then booking in advanced because I don´t want to wait to long for the trip 
Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Canadair RJ 900 (first time on the type)

Congratulations! I flew it for the first time three weeks ago and enjoy the ride, especially the take-off which were very powerful  I can agree about the cramped feeling in the cabin.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
MA’s DH4 sporting retro livery

Nice! I spotted that bird in BUD in May but unfourtnately I couldn´t take a picture of it 
Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
it is packed (together with safety card) in a plastic bag.

I wonder if there are more airlines that use this plastic-cover?

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Boeing to built the aircraft. The rest of the flight is uneventful. The western we go the cloudier it gets.

Interesting, I didn´t know that either.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
it’s done she summarises her some article from LH Magazine. I am truly impressed with woman’s skills to keep little lady entertained.

Some people know how to do- I don´t!:D

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
“Camel Smoking Zone’’

I wish more aiports have these. In Sweden we have small glass-cages. You feel like a animal at a zoo  I find strange that they didn´t have any smoking rooms in WAW. It´s the same in BUD. Strange since no one of the countries have a general smoking-ban

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Luckily, the width is no issue, so it’s way more comfortable than on Eurowings’ CRJ.

I agree on that.

Quoting SPLTA (Thread starter):
Some smooth melody is being played throughout boarding process. It is completed at 2050. I take one more look around the cabin. I spot only

If I remember correctly they played Chopin on my LOT flights during boarding.

Thanks again for the nice story SPLTA!

Greetings
Robert


User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

Hello,

nice to see some more comments!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 18):
Nice report with nice pictures!
Quoting eco (Reply 19):
It's very nice
Quoting parton87 (Reply 20):
Thanks for the great story.

Thank you, I' m glad you liked it.

@ The777Man

Quoting The777Man (Reply 18):
All flights look nice and nice for you to get a ride on a 735 since they are not co common anymore.

Yes, those were really enjoyable rides. As for 735 it wasn't my first, but sadly, probably the last time on this beautiful bird.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 18):
Glad you had a good time at the meeting and too bad I couldn't make it. Hopefully next time!

I definitely enjoyed the meeting. I highly recommend taking part in the next one. It would be nice to meet you.

@ eco

Quoting eco (Reply 19):
Same thing happened to me on 7 LH flights this year.

Really? That shouldn't have happened even once, now seven times?

@Robert

Quoting parton87 (Reply 20):
What did you think about DUS? I was there for the first time in January this year and I can´t say I like it very much. Quit old and cramped and not so good spotting-opportunities! I also think that the airport have a lack of restrooms, huge lines at everyone, atleast when I was there.

Well, I spent only like half an hour there, so had no time for exploring. I basically hanged around the gate. The widows were small so it was a bit dark and gloomy there. The nearest restroom was on the upper level, no lines at that time though. Not the best first impressions, I would say.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 20):
But I usually prefer that then booking in advanced because I don´t want to wait to long for the trip

Me too, but my pocket doesn't  .

Quoting parton87 (Reply 20):
Nice! I spotted that bird in BUD in May but unfourtnately I couldn´t take a picture of it

I also wanted to take a picture of it, but unfortunately it was blocked out by some ground equipment.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 20):
I find strange that they didn´t have any smoking rooms in WAW. It´s the same in BUD. Strange since no one of the countries have a general smoking-ban

It was both strange and irritating for me that there were no smoking rooms in WAW. But I got good news for you, it's history now! When departing to RIX last week, I heard the annoucement informing that smoking in Warsaw airport is forbidden outside smoking zone(s) located in transit hall. I was shocked to hear that! I didn't have a chance to try it out, though, 'cause it was time to board.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 20):
If I remember correctly they played Chopin on my LOT flights during boarding.

I think, there is no Chopin anymore. I believe, it was played due to "Chopin's Year".

Thank you all for the comments.

Regards,
SPLTA


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Hi

Was nice meeting you up in FRA. Glad you made it, also a nice combination of Airlines/types in your trip.  



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineSPLTA From Poland, joined Jun 2011, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4565 times:

Hi MSS658

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 22):
Was nice meeting you up in FRA. Glad you made it, also a nice combination of Airlines/types in your trip.

Definitely glad I got a chance to participate. It was pleasure meeting you, too.

Best regards,
SPLTA


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