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Propping Around The Upstate!  
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7673 times:

Propping around the upstate!!
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Other reports related to this trip.
1. Lufthansa, There Is No Better Way To Fly! (by MSS658 Jul 5 2011 in Trip Reports)
2. US Airways And Irregular Operations! (by MSS658 Jul 17 2011 in Trip Reports)

Background:
End October 2010, I received my letter when my final exam would be and when I would graduate from secondary school. This would be on 30 November, a few days letter I received an email from Lufthansa that they would be offering promotions for a bunch of destinations in North America, including Miami. I started searching for air fares and combinations. I had the choice between changing in Frankfurt of Munich. Already have been in Frankfurt and did not want to get stuck on a 10-hour 744, I chose for Munich giving me the Embrear 195 and the A340-300. With the E195 being a new aircraft type for me on this segment of the trip, and the longest nonstop portion that I would have flown in my life from Munich to Miami which is blocked at 11h35minutes (see part I).

Now comes the second part from Florida to South Carolina a few days after my excellent flight with Lufthansa. For mileage reasons US Airways was chosen again, but when looking at fare I found something strange. It was actually cheaper to fly to Greenville, SC from West Palm Beach thru Charlotte than just booking a round trip from West Palm Beach to Charlotte, NC. Having two extra flights for a cheaper price, was a no brainer…. As an extra bonus the PBI-CLT flight would be operated by the 737-400 classic, always nice to get such a nice bonus these days. CLT-GSP would be operated by an Embrear 145, not bad as well (see part II).

A few days later I would return back to Florida on the same ticket I purchased on US Airways. As my last flight, I would be changing in Charlotte again before reaching West Palm Beach. I chose the last option of the day because this was the only segment that there was a Dash 8-300 flying in between Greenville and Charlotte, a sunset flight with the DH3 would be a nice treat. The Charlotte-West Palm Beach flight would be operated by another 737-400.

Pre-departure:
The story begins a few days earlier after arriving in Anderson, SC from my US Airways trip from West Palm Beach to Greenville, where I found out that I lost my passport. I immediately called the lost and found in GSP, but they did not find anything. Shortly after I made a claim at Charlotte Douglas International airport (next destination of the plane after it landed in Greenville) and US Airways. Each day since I was called all three listed former locations to get some information but with no success. Even when the check in-reminder came on Monday December 13 I still did not have any news, oh well… at least I had my Belgian passport so I could travel back to Florida continuing back to Belgium the day after, Or I was suspecting so… I selected seat 9A on the Greenville-Charlotte leg and 19F on the Charlotte-West Palm Beach leg. The next day I made another call to the three departments with still a negative reply. Well just went ahead to pack my suitcase and was on my way at 15.00. by 15.45 I arrived in from of the US Airways counter in the Greenville/Spartanburg airport.


@ the airport
When I arrived I went straight to the check-in counter and wanted to print my boarding pass, but the system did not want to accept my PNR code, after a few tries I went to the ticket counter to get everything sorted. I received my two boarding passes and showed my Belgian passport. The agent was looking quite confused, then disturbed. Then she asked me a question that literally shocked me (and probably anybody who was in my place). This question sounded something in the form of “Sir, you are aware that you are travelling on an expired passport” “Whaaattttt!!”. So apparently with all my exams going on I forgot to take notice that my Belgian passport was expired. So one lost and one expired. I asked once again if they found my lost passport but got another negative response. After some hesitating the gate agent gave me the boarding passes for the Greenville-Charlotte and Charlotte-West Palm Beach leg. With ‘SSSS’ marked on the first boarding pass. The agent gave me hope to ask when I arrived in Charlotte. After this ordeal I walked around the rather quiet check-in counter to have another breath or two. Around 16.20 I decided to pass my second obstacle, the security check point… When passing the identification check-point the women after the counter gave me a look and yelled thru her colleague that she is confused and did not knew how US Airways let me fly. Until a voice came in the background “He can fly with us because he is flying domestically”. The agent who checked me in was just coincidentally assisting wheelchair passengers to the gate. After some talking I was allowed to pass thru the checkpoint and the “SSSS”. The extra security when very smooth and did not have any extra problems. They also gave me the advice that there would not be any problem on flying the next day back to Europe but that would be Lufthansa’s decision.
Around 16.45 I was passed thru all this and was allowed in the gate area. The gate agent (same person who checked me in) was very curious about what happened. Once this ordeal had passed I went to explore the terminal building, Greenville/Spartanburg is split up in two sides, concourse A and B. All airlines except for Delta (and formerly Northwest) is in concourse A. Even on this side traffic was limited, only a United express ERJ heading up to Chicago ORD. Continental’s flight from Newark was delayed as well as US Airways flight from Philadelphia. A fun thing about GSP airport is they provide a map that shows where inbound and outbound planes are located for the moment. I noticed that my flight US4107 had just token off from Charlotte at 17.00, the time that I normally should be at the gate here in Greenville. So we would be a bit late as well, at 17.10 a US Airways express jet landed N449AW an Air Wisconsin CRJ-200 from Philadelpia landed and came to a stop at gate A2, she would go back to Philadephia as US 3739. Not so long afterwards there was a turboprop approaching runway 22, this was US 4107 from Charlotte. As was US3077 supposed to do a few days ago, US 4107 operated a round trip from Charlotte to Greenville and back. The aircraft appeared to be a Dash 8-300 registered N336EN, she was parked alongside with the CRJ. Turnaround went quickly and at 17.35 we where invited to board the following flight.


The flight:
Tuesday, 14 December 2010
Greenville/Spartanburg (GSP/KGSP) – Charlotte (CLT/KCLT)
US Airways Express by Piedmont 4107
DHC-8 311A N336EN. Economy 9A
Delivered to Air Wisconsin on September 1, 1992 as N436AW. Later delivered to Atlantic Coast Airlines and Brymon Airways (G-BRYR) before being delivered to Piedmont Airlines as N336EN on Oktober 27, 2000
17.19-17.53 (Gate A1; wheels up on runway 4 at 17.57)
18.10-18.40 (Gate E4; wheels down on runway 36L at 18.23)
Est flying time: 25minutes
Cruising Altitude: FL 110
Load factor: 100% in Y
Routing: Greenville-Charlotte
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Personal statistics (note the counting is a little bit different)
134th registered flight.
15th flight in 2010
1st flight on US Airways by Piedmont
1th flight on the DH8 series
1th flight on the DH8-300
1st flight on N336EN

After dropping off my carry-on baggage I noticed the beautiful view of my plane standing in the dusk. Once I made my way onboard I noticed how the cabin was showing its age, However it looked very comfortable and so it was. The seat pitch was 33 inches so we had quite a bit of room. It’s quite funny how they give passengers on short flights like these so much legroom while their widebodies that fly 9-hour trips to Europe are cramped as something. The sole F/A was a bit rushed throughout the boarding procedure, Later on I heard that we needed to be airborne by 18.00 or we where risking a flight cancellation. Thank goodness this was not the case, the doors closed at 17.50 and a mere few minutes we where on our way to runway 4 where we lifted off a few minutes before 6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPI07IKdbsw


I was hoping on a lovely sunset flight through the upstate but due to our delay the sun had almost disappeared in the darkness. Oh well, nothing we can do . We climbed up to 11 000 feet where we heard a sudden ding that we have reached our cruising altitude, as on the Charlotte-Greenville leg, the flight attendant remained in her jumpseat. Not that I was expecting anything, but already did get at least a drink service on shorter flights than this one. A few minutes after reaching our cruising altitude the flight attendant made an announcement with all gates of passengers who are connecting. Since the majority of passengers where connecting onto other flights, this measure was very handy and personally think this is the best one can do in terms of in-flight service. My connecting flight to West Palm Beach would be leaving from gate B16, the same gate as listed on my boarding pass. Shortly after this we heard another ding noting the decent into Charlotte has begun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoy3OFJ-oA4


Our descent into the Charlotte was rather uneventful and it took only a matter of minutes and a few turns before our DH8 touched down at 18.23 on runway 36L , Charlotte’s most remote runway. This makes a flight like this quite interesting because we spent almost equally as much time taxing to our gate in Charlotte as we actually flew from Greenville to Charlotte, It reminded me of my diverse KLM Cittyhopper flights from Amsterdam to Brussels when the Polderbaan was used for takeoff. After passing the multiple US Airways jets to and from all over the world, we came to a stop at 18.40 at gate E4. After making a quick flight deck picture (sorry for the bad quality), I made my way on to the ramp to get my carry-on items and proceeded in to the terminal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aolKlC2R1aM


Once I arrived in the gate area I heard an announcement that US4274 to Lynchburg, Virgina had started boarding, and Immediately the mass of passengers started running my way. Spoken about a very quick turnaround. My next stop was the US Airways Express costumer service counter to hopefully get things sorted out., after finding the service counter I joined quite a long line. Apparently a flight to Roanoke had been cancelled and everybody was in line to get rebooked on next mornings flight. A young larger lady in front of me was not happy with this measure and wanted to rent a car to drive to Roanoke, don’t blame her since the distance is only a 3 hour drive from Charlotte and it was only just a few minutes past 19.00 at this time. At 19.10 I reached the counter, the representative did not received any lost passport but advised me to call baggage claim which I did, but again without success. I started making my way slowly to the B-concourse. US 1823 was still due to depart from gate B16, before reaching the gate I quickly bought me a salad for the flight since I was getting quite hungry and was not in the mood to be ripped off for a little pack of cookies. I found the B-concourse to be quite crowdy on this Tuesday evening. When I arrived at the gate the boarding for zone 1 had already begun for our flight, the gate area was quite crowded as well because US 1867 to Fort Lauderdale had started boarding as well. This flight was operated by an A321 aircraft. It was impossible to see the registration of the aircraft due to the darkness and the difficult parking position of our aircraft. Around 19.50 boarding was called for zone 4 and I stood up and got ready to board:


The flight:
Tuesday, 14 December 2010
Charlotte (CLT/KCLT) – West Palm Beach (PBI/KPBI)
US Airways 1823 (Codeshare: Lufthansa German Airlines 7562, United Airlines 1969)
Boeing 737-401 N443US Economy 19F
Built and delivered to USair on 3 August, 1990. Later delivered on 27 February, 2002 to US Airways
20.05-20.05 (Gate B16; wheels up on runway 36R at 20.23)
21.56-21.48 (Gate B09; wheels down on runway 28R at 21.44)
Est flying time: 1hr20mns
Cruising Altitude: FL 340
Load factor: 100% in Y
Routing: Dep-Buckl6-Buckel-CAE-Omiv-Frway3
CLT-CAE-SAV-PBI%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=red&PATH-UNITS=km&PATH-MINIMUM=&MARKER=1&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=" target="_blank">http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=C...mp;RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=
Personal statistics
135th registered flight
16th flight in 2010
8th flight on US Airways (excluding US Airways Express flights)
12th flight on the Boeing 737 series
6th flight on the B737-400
1st flight on N443US

I was greeted once again by the flight attendant and found my seat in the 19th row soon, my 2 neighbours had already found their seat. The aisle was occupied by an older man, the middle seat was occupied by a larger teenager girl who had the armrest between her seat and my seat upwards. The rest of the boarding went smoothly with the usual Flight attendants rushing the passengers to the P/A that they have to take their seats as quick as possible so we could depart on time. I don’t know why this is so regular on US-based carriers and you never would hear this on lets say,… a Lufthansa or TAP short haul flight. Just a few minutes before our scheduled flight the doors closed and we pushed back on time. When pushing back I could at least see one registration of the A321 operating the flight to Fort Lauderdale, this would be N164UW. Then started our long taxi-ride to runway 36L where we managed to be airborne at 20.23 where we had a wonderful view of the Charlotte skyline by night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UolYpvZGU-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcRdv_QgWoI


Sooner or later the almost 22-year old 737 found itself at 34 000. feet cruising trough the dark South Carolinian skies. When I looked aside I noticed my neighbour had raised the armrest again between her and me so I had to lower it again since she was taking half of my space and due to the going-on situation I was not quite in the mood for things like this. Seating itself was found to be cramped as well, more cramped than on the flight to Charlotte a few days prior. By now the buy-on-board process had started and I got out my cesar salad . Surprise, surprise, buy on board did pass my row. What funny that I got the service on the 2 flights I did not pay for the extra coach seat, however I did not take notice on which side of the cabin they started at. The rest of the flight passed by uneventfully, the occurrence of events that happened in the past few hours started slowly reaching my mind and was really starting to think how in the world am I going to make it up to Europe the next day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzD5ZM047U


I did not even notice the time yet when I heard the throttles being pulled back and the plance was starting to decent. It was indeed 21.20 and we where descending along the florida coast line. It was quite nice to see the coast line lit up. After the final cabin inspection lights where dimmed and we where on final approach for 28R where we touched down at 21.44. There was not so much to see at this time of night and only a small 5 minutes later we came to a complete stop at gate B9. Alongside to us there was another 737 parked that came in that afternoon as US 1411 from Charlotte that landed around 1400, quite a strange rotation schedule in my opinion. When studying the registration closely I noticed that it was N425US. The plane that took me the opposite route as today a few days prior. When disembarking I was allowed in the front seat to have a quick chat with the pilots and finally got to see on which plane I was flying, N443US had token me from North Carolina down to Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuyqPL4idWo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kyzs1vSsiM


After saying goodbye to the crew it was up to baggage claim where I did not had to wait to long for my luggage. Around 22.10 I could leave the airport and only a short 15 minutes later I was back at my moms house. The trip took me about 7,5 hours down to Florida, it did not took long before I was in my bed because I had a long day the next day. Will I reach Belgium or would I end up in Palm Beach Gardens where my journey would begin?? Stay tuned for the next part, an ending of this trip report I wrote especially for akhmad and abrelosojos  .


Overall verdict
Despite everything going on It was a very standard US domestic ride nothing bad, but nothing really good either. It was very nice to log the Dash 8-300 on the Greenville/Spartanburg-Charlotte leg, just a pitty it was delayed causing it to be a night time flight. Tough the best thing in terms of In-flight service was given. An announcement of each and everyone’s connection in Charlotte. Another remarkable thing on the Charlotte-West Palm Beach route is that there was a BOB service, it may be a co-incidence but this happens when NOT paying the extra choice seat. Will I fly US Airways again on short-haul service? Probably because they have the only Star-Alliance hub in Southeastern United states and they get me from A to B on time (with an exception of US 4107 tonight) .. And that’s what they advertise what they do? Right??

Remarks.

US Airways Express 4107 (Total: 75%)

Departure: 80% (despite paying the ‘bribe’ US Airways Express handled my situation quite well, and GSP is still wonderful to leave out of)
Aircraft cleanliness : 70% (Showing it’s age but still good)
Seat Comfort: 90% (Very impressed by the enormous seat pitch)
Crew: 90% (Additional service by announcing the connections.)
Catering: 60% (Was not expecting any, but others do it on a small route like this.)
Arrival: 70% (Quite busy)

US Airways 1823 (Total: 70%)

Departure: 70% (Charlotte is a convenient hub to transfer in, tough found it to be a bit busy)
Aircraft cleanliness : 70% (Nothing special)
Seat Comfort: 60% (very cramped feeling)
Crew: 70% (Nice, cheerful and friendly)
Catering: 80% (We at least got a BOB.)
Arrival: 80% (smooth as usual in West Palm Beach)


As a bonus I would like to give a list of regs I spotted in GSP, CLT and PBI

GSP:
N449AW
N336EN

CLT:
N336EN
N254PS
N908PS
N709PS
N249PS
N164UW
N443US

PBI:
N425US
N443US

Total facts on this trip
1 New Airline (US Airways Express by Piedmont)
1 New aircraft type (DH8-300)
2 New registrations (N336EN and N443US)

Thank you for viewing comments and feedback are appreciated and my apologies for the lack of quality in some pictures!

Next trip report:
Sun, snow, rain and… Lufthansa!



Past trip reports
US Airways And Irregular Operations! (by MSS658 Jul 17 2011 in Trip Reports)
Lufthansa, There Is No Better Way To Fly! (by MSS658 Jul 5 2011 in Trip Reports)
A Short Hop On A Big Bird! (by MSS658 Feb 27 2011 in Trip Reports)
A West Side Flight On The East Side! (by MSS658 Jan 9 2011 in Trip Reports)
Wifi And Condensation On US Airways! (by MSS658 Dec 10 2010 in Trip Reports)
Air Canada, North America's Hidden Jewel? (by MSS658 Nov 6 2010 in Trip Reports)
A Ride With A Rare Blue Bird! (by MSS658 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
US Airways A333's.Are They Really That Bad? Part 2 (by MSS658 Oct 23 2010 in Trip Reports)
US Airways A330-300's. Are They Really That Bad? (by MSS658 Oct 16 2010 in Trip Reports)


Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
16 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineBurj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 901 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7585 times:

Interesting experience and I am glad you got to try out different aircraft types.

Your trip is very typical of a lot of domestic flights...crowds, short flights, a hurry up and wait atmosphere where it seems like very flight is boarded like it is the last one out of Saigon!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6903 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7375 times:

Hi MSS658,

nice report about this domestic journey. Good to hear you logged a new type.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
This question sounded something in the form of “Sir, you are aware that you are travelling on an expired passport” “Whaaattttt!!”. So apparently with all my exams going on I forgot to take notice that my Belgian passport was expired. So one lost and one expired. I asked once again if they found my lost passport but got another negative response. After some hesitating the gate agent gave me the boarding passes for the Greenville-Charlotte and Charlotte-West Palm Beach leg. With ‘SSSS’ marked on the first boarding pass. The agent gave me hope to ask when I arrived in Charlotte. After this ordeal I walked around the rather quiet check-in counter to have another breath or two. Around 16.20 I decided to pass my second obstacle, the security check point… When passing the identification check-point the women after the counter gave me a look and yelled thru her colleague that she is confused and did not knew how US Airways let me fly. Until a voice came in the background “He can fly with us because he is flying domestically”. The agent who checked me in was just coincidentally assisting wheelchair passengers to the gate. After some talking I was allowed to pass thru the checkpoint and the “SSSS”. The extra security when very smooth and did not have any extra problems. They also gave me the advice that there would not be any problem on flying the next day back to Europe but that would be Lufthansa’s decision.

Wow, that's what I call a bad start! At least you didn't face any more trouble when passing security.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Seating itself was found to be cramped as well, more cramped than on the flight to Charlotte a few days prior.

That's what I also noticed on US (733/A321) some years ago.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineeco From Bulgaria, joined Nov 2010, 84 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Hi MSS658,

Good trip report. Dash 8-300 looks really nice.
Thank you for shearing. What is next ?


Eco


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7042 times:

Quoting Burj (Reply 1):
Interesting experience and I am glad you got to try out different aircraft types.

Your trip is very typical of a lot of domestic flights...crowds, short flights, a hurry up and wait atmosphere where it seems like very flight is boarded like it is the last one out of Saigon!

Hi Burj

Thanks alot for your comment!
Yes, I know it is indeed a rushed atmosphere you don't see in Europe (and it takes equally as long to board the plane over there than it does here. Also an unheard announcement on European carriers which I hear quite a bit "Welcome to XYZ with an EARLY arrival time of...", except Ryanairs early jingle  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
nice report about this domestic journey. Good to hear you logged a new type.

Hi Planehunter

Thanks, always nice to hear.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Wow, that's what I call a bad start! At least you didn't face any more trouble when passing security.


was indeed a breathtaking, thank goodness they at least let me go to PBI.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
That's what I also noticed on US (733/A321) some years ago.

Just finished reading those reports, pitch looked cramped. Would not surprise me that those seats on the 733 stil are the same to be found nowadays on the 737 fleet.

Quoting eco (Reply 3):
Hi MSS658,

Good trip report. Dash 8-300 looks really nice.
Thank you for shearing. What is next ?


Eco

Hi Eco

Thanks, it was a nice experience.
next would be my scheduled return from Miami to Brussels via Munich on Lufthansa.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineBurj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 901 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6997 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 4):
Also an unheard announcement on European carriers which I hear quite a bit "Welcome to XYZ with an EARLY arrival time of...",

Those announcements always bug me as I don't care if we LAND early...I care about what time the door opens and we can get off the plane! I don't know how many times I've been on a plane that landed "early" just to sit around and wait and wait for a gate to open up, or worse, to be parked at the gate and wait for someone to come operate the jetbridge!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6979 times:

Hi, Marc,

good to follow the next part of you´re recent US series.
A good catch these Dash but also the oldy 737-400 is something out of the ordinary, well done.

Looking forward to the final part.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1771 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6807 times:
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Hi MSS658,

Thanks for this write-up. I'm sorry to hear about the passport issue, having that important item lost on a journey abroad is not a pleasant thing... I'm also surprised that you are actually allowed to fly in the US without this passport, them having these very strict post 9/11 regulations?
For sure the loss of your passport made you uncomfortable, it shows from your pics as some are out of focus  

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Later on I heard that we needed to be airborne by 18.00 or we where risking a flight cancellation. Thank goodness this was not the case, the doors closed at 17.50 and a mere few minutes we where on our way to runway 4 where we lifted off a few minutes before 6.

You were lucky then!

   Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27251 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6711 times:

Hi Marc ,
Very nice report and great to see US Domestic TR's are still possible. Even better to see that you were able to take pics in the cockpit. I look forward to reading the next one .

Kind regards

Philip  


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2487 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6429 times:

Hi Marc,

I am sorry for my late reply. Wow! You really know how to maintain the suspense of your US adventure with your lost passport. Nicely written and well detailed! It is like reading a thriller.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
at least I had my Belgian passport so I could travel back to Florida continuing back to Belgium the day after

Oh, I did not know that you had dual nationalities.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
“Sir, you are aware that you are travelling on an expired passport” “Whaaattttt!!”.

OMG! I would have got a heart attack by this!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
the women after the counter gave me a look and yelled thru her colleague that she is confused and did not knew how US Airways let me fly. Until a voice came in the background “He can fly with us because he is flying domestically”. The agent who checked me in was just coincidentally assisting wheelchair passengers to the gate.

The agent was your guardian angel!

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
They also gave me the advice that there would not be any problem on flying the next day back to Europe but that would be Lufthansa’s decision.

Very nice of them for pointing it out. Let’s hope for the best.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
I noticed that my flight US4107 had just token off from Charlotte at 17.00, the time that I normally should be at the gate here in Greenville. So we would be a bit late as well, at 17.10 a US Airways express jet landed N449AW an Air Wisconsin CRJ-200 from Philadelpia landed and came to a stop at gate A2, she would go back to Philadephia as US 3739. Not so long afterwards there was a turboprop approaching runway 22, this was US 4107 from Charlotte. As was US3077 supposed to do a few days ago, US 4107 operated a round trip from Charlotte to Greenville and back. The aircraft appeared to be a Dash 8-300 registered N336EN, she was parked alongside with the CRJ. Turnaround went quickly and at 17.35 we where invited to board the following flight.

Wow, you really impress me with these details!  Wow!


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The sole F/A was a bit rushed throughout the boarding procedure, Later on I heard that we needed to be airborne by 18.00 or we where risking a flight cancellation.

I assume that everyone would have appreciated such explanation.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
our DH8 touched down at 18.23 on runway 36L , Charlotte’s most remote runway. This makes a flight like this quite interesting because we spent almost equally as much time taxing to our gate in Charlotte as we actually flew from Greenville to Charlotte, It reminded me of my diverse KLM Cittyhopper flights from Amsterdam to Brussels when the Polderbaan was used for takeoff.

In that case, runway 36L should be called Polder way! 


Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
When I looked aside I noticed my neighbour had raised the armrest again between her and me so I had to lower it again since she was taking half of my space and due to the going-on situation I was not quite in the mood for things like this.

Did your neighbor get the message?

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
an ending of this trip report I wrote especially for akhmad and abrelosojos   

Thanks for the honor!   

Thank you so much for sharing. I am definitely looking forward to the final!

Best wishes,
Suryo



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User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

Hi Marc,

another nice TR on your US trip, I specially like pictures form the drive to or from the airport.

And I am interested in reading about what happened with your passport in the next part, hope you will have the chance to put it up soon  

Blaž



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6648 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6381 times:

Hi !

Nice report and nice to know that your logged some new aircraft types for you.

I'm curious about the title; "Propping around the Upstate". For most Americans, Upstate usualy refers to upstate New York state. I have never heard this reffered to for any other state not even here in California. We just refer to northern California as just that, northern Califronia. Is this "Upstate" expression a South Carolina thing ?

Too bad you lost your passport; I did lose mine at JFK in 1987 but got it back five minutes later......and at that time I only had one passport......

The777Man



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6119 times:

Quoting Burj (Reply 5):
Those announcements always bug me as I don't care if we LAND early...I care about what time the door opens and we can get off the plane! I don't know how many times I've been on a plane that landed "early" just to sit around and wait and wait for a gate to open up, or worse, to be parked at the gate and wait for someone to come operate the jetbridge!

And to top of the usual slimery, "It's XXX's pleasure to be the first to welcome you in..." and "it has been our honor and pleasure serving you" if flying US my usual toughts are 'yeaa right'.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
Hi, Marc,

good to follow the next part of you´re recent US series.
A good catch these Dash but also the oldy 737-400 is something out of the ordinary, well done.

Looking forward to the final part.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Markus

Thanks for replying. Jup, it's nice to get those classics.. However the 734 is my most flown on narrowbody (but seems to be my favorite as well)

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
Hi MSS658,

Thanks for this write-up. I'm sorry to hear about the passport issue, having that important item lost on a journey abroad is not a pleasant thing... I'm also surprised that you are actually allowed to fly in the US without this passport, them having these very strict post 9/11 regulations?
For sure the loss of your passport made you uncomfortable, it shows from your pics as some are out of focus

It was not a pleasant experience at all, still remember this day by heart. They let me thru in GSP because my photo looked like me  
Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Hi Marc ,
Very nice report and great to see US Domestic TR's are still possible. Even better to see that you were able to take pics in the cockpit. I look forward to reading the next one .

Kind regards

Philip

Hi Philip

Thanks, can be quite challenging to write a report about a 25-minute flight in darkness, but am glad to get something decent online. Cockpit photo's concerning, It's more easy to take them in the US than in Europe  .

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Hi Marc,

I am sorry for my late reply. Wow! You really know how to maintain the suspense of your US adventure with your lost passport. Nicely written and well detailed! It is like reading a thriller.

No problem Suryo, thanks for commenting.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Oh, I did not know that you had dual nationalities.

Yep, I'm American and Belgian  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
The agent was your guardian angel!

She was, ran in to her 2 weeks ago when deboarding my CO flight from Newark, if she was not busy I would have definitely stopped and thanked her.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Very nice of them for pointing it out. Let’s hope for the best.

TSA staff in these small airports are usually very kind and friendly But let's hope  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Wow, you really impress me with these details! Wow!

Thanks, some memorywork and ifcourse flightstats.com is a help in relocating these details.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Did your neighbor get the message?

She finally did

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Thanks for the honor!

Thank you so much for sharing. I am definitely looking forward to the final!

My pleasure, I'm hoping to get it on in the next few weeks.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 10):
Hi Marc,

another nice TR on your US trip, I specially like pictures form the drive to or from the airport.

And I am interested in reading about what happened with your passport in the next part, hope you will have the chance to put it up soon

Blaž

Hi Blaz

Thank you  .

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Hi !

Nice report and nice to know that your logged some new aircraft types for you.

I'm curious about the title; "Propping around the Upstate". For most Americans, Upstate usualy refers to upstate New York state. I have never heard this reffered to for any other state not even here in California. We just refer to northern California as just that, northern Califronia. Is this "Upstate" expression a South Carolina thing ?

Too bad you lost your passport; I did lose mine at JFK in 1987 but got it back five minutes later......and at that time I only had one passport......

The777Man

Hi

Thank you for the comment. Upstate South Carolina is everything North of Columbia (CAE) and South of the Appalacian foothills.


Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

Great trip report! I've always been a huge fan of the Dash 8, with the -300 series being a particular favorite (I always felt it was the "right size" and the most attractive of the family). That said, I also knew that Piedmont only had the -100s (and some -200s for a while) until US Airways' color scheme changed to the dark navy fuselage. Does anyone know when Piedmont got their -300s, and from where? Were they ordered new at the time? Or did they secure them from another airline?

Cheers!



Fierce, Fabulous, and Flawless ;)
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6025 times:

Quoting NASBWI (Reply 13):
Great trip report! I've always been a huge fan of the Dash 8, with the -300 series being a particular favorite (I always felt it was the "right size" and the most attractive of the family). That said, I also knew that Piedmont only had the -100s (and some -200s for a while) until US Airways' color scheme changed to the dark navy fuselage. Does anyone know when Piedmont got their -300s, and from where? Were they ordered new at the time? Or did they secure them from another airline?

Cheers!

Hi, thanks for commenting.
according to airfleets.net most where delivered between 2000 and 2005 all secured from other airlines
Source: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Piedmont-active-dh8.htm

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5739 times:

Hi, Marc!

sorry for my late reply, you know... I was busy with some flying also lately  
Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Already have been in Frankfurt and did not want to get stuck on a 10-hour 744, I chose for Munich giving me the Embrear 195 and the A340-300.

That was indeed a good choice. I prefer the A343 also in that case.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Having two extra flights for a cheaper price, was a no brainer….

Life of an a.nutter is easy, somedays.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
As an extra bonus the PBI-CLT flight would be operated by the 737-400 classic, always nice to get such a nice bonus these days.

Although not everybody here seems to be happy on the 734, I know and you as well that it's a real good and kind of rare aircraft to be on in these days.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
Then she asked me a question that literally shocked me (and probably anybody who was in my place). This question sounded something in the form of “Sir, you are aware that you are travelling on an expired passport” “Whaaattttt!!”. So apparently with all my exams going on I forgot to take notice that my Belgian passport was expired.

Aha... not very smart indeed. How long was it expired? Because some countries accept passports which are expired by max 6 months, especially those from the EU are quite safe afaik. It seems the check-in staff handled the situation well, and I can understand that she was surprised a bit...

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
The extra security when very smooth and did not have any extra problems. They also gave me the advice that there would not be any problem on flying the next day back to Europe but that would be Lufthansa’s decision.

TSA is not always bad. I only have good experiences with the US security checks so far. Good from them to give some advise to you.

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
the middle seat was occupied by a larger teenager girl who had the armrest between her seat and my seat upwards.

You did put it in down position didn't you? It's a compulsory item during takeoff and landings...

Quoting MSS658 (Thread starter):
I noticed my neighbour had raised the armrest again between her and me so I had to lower it again since she was taking half of my space and due to the going-on situation I was not quite in the mood for things like this.

Ah what a girl   You're not a couple in love or so,... armrest down then. Or she goes to another seat would be my advise. (or buy 2 seats  )

Marc, great report. Good to see your chances to visit the cockpits after landing, not really expected in these days on US airlines.

Looking forward to the next episode!

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5610 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
Hi, Marc!

sorry for my late reply, you know... I was busy with some flying also lately

Hi Eric

No problem at all! I'm glad you took the time to read it  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
That was indeed a good choice. I prefer the A343 also in that case.

having a PTV on a 10+ hour flight is not a luxury.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
Life of an a.nutter is easy, some days.

Somedays it is, other days it's a bit harder.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
Although not everybody here seems to be happy on the 734, I know and you as well that it's a real good and kind of rare aircraft to be on in these days.

Glad to be on the 734, however I noticed this is my most flown on narrowbody. So not so rare for me.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
Aha... not very smart indeed. How long was it expired? Because some countries accept passports which are expired by max 6 months, especially those from the EU are quite safe afaik. It seems the check-in staff handled the situation well, and I can understand that she was surprised a bit...

Was surprised as well, was already quite a few months expired but don't understand that I've been let back in the EU on my previous trip AND I had to show it when leaving MUC without nobody saying anything.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
TSA is not always bad. I only have good experiences with the US security checks so far. Good from them to give some advise to you.

In smaller airports they are usually quite friendly.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
You did put it in down position didn't you? It's a compulsory item during takeoff and landings...

Ifcourse  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 15):
Ah what a girl You're not a couple in love or so,... armrest down then. Or she goes to another seat would be my advise. (or buy 2 seats )

Marc, great report. Good to see your chances to visit the cockpits after landing, not really expected in these days on US airlines.


Looking forward to the next episode!

Eric


We share the same opinion on that one. Just a bad that the flight was full  

Thanks for the reply, is quite easy to get a cockpit pic in the US. More easy than in Europe nowadays.


Greetings
Marc



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