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Cathay Pacific Suites/J & DragonAir F/J  
User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 23607 times:

Reason For Trip
This trip eventuated due to an urgent meeting I had in relation to our future expansion of our business in China, namely in the city of Tianjin. As I was only to be there for 1 night the quickest and most convenient schedule was Jakarta to Hong Kong by Cathay Pacific and then connecting with Dragonair to Beijing before taking the bullet train from Beijing to Tianjin, and first time for me in China, although I have been on them tons of time in Germany and Japan.

Date: 20 July 2011
Route: Jakarta (CGK) - Hong Kong (HKG)
Flight: Cathay Pacific CX798
ETD: 0005
ETA: 0550
Seat: 18K (Business Class)
Aircraft: A330-300
Flight time: 4hrs 20mins
Registration: B-HLA
1st Flight: 27 Aug 1994

Preflight
Took me a quick 20mins at this time of the night to reach the airport. Check in was swift and in no time I am already in the lounge. Pretty surpised that theres quite a bit of traffic at night. Theres Korean going off to Seoul, Air China to Beijing, Phillipine Airlines going to Manila and also Emirates going to Dubai. I just stayed im the lounge all the way till boarding was called.

Inflight
Boarding was on time and efficient. Was greeted at door 1L by a polite male purser. Load is pretty light with J being about 1/3 full. A polite crew on board but noticed they all looked pretty junior. Old regional J seats on this A333 are comfortable but definitely not ideal to sleep for a red eye flight.

Next to us on the tarmac

Seats are similar to MH old A333 but on CX it has an avod system, albeit one that runs in a loop.
Inflight Magazines

Old IFE onboard, and I rather use my own Ipad ☺

Instead of waking us up for breakfast, we had a very late night meal instead after take off



Date: 20 July 2011
Route: Hong Kong (HKG) - Beijing (PEK)
Flight: Dragonair KA900
ETD: 0800
ETA: 1115
Seat: 1A (First Class)
Aircraft: A330-300
Flight time: 2hrs 40mins
Registration:B-HYJ
1st Flight: 26 Nov 2002


Preflight
After disembarking I made my way thru the transfer area before making myself comfortable in CX's The Wing F lounge. Managed to get a nice long shower before settling down for some breakfast at the dining room where the catering and staff are from The Peninsula Hotel.

Views from the Lounge

After breakfast, there was an announcemt of a gate change to gate 71, from the previous gate 18. Great! Now I have to get to the other end of the terminal! At least in gives me time to some spotting on a very wet and humid summers day.

My impressions of CX F lounge is that its nice an airy and gives a good sense of privacy, but its still a far cry from my beloved TG Royal First Lounge in BKK.
My bird taking me to PEK


Inflight
When I arrived at the gate boarding already commenced and I immediately boarded. A polite crew greeted me on board and this aircraft has 12 seats in F.

Seats are in the old style cradle and although old, they were pretty comfortable.
Mealtime

After breakfast i managed to get about 45mins worth of sleep. All in all an uneventful flight.
Beijing Capital Ariport



My brief half day stay at St Regis Beijing


Views of Beijing South Bullet Train Station

An overnight stay at the extremely well appinted Raffles Hotel Tianjin and all for under 120usd!


Date: 21 July 2011
Route: Beijing (PEK) - Hong Kong (HKG)
Flight: Dragonair KA975
ETD: 2030
ETA: 2355
Seat: 11A (Business Class)
Aircraft:A320
Flight time: 3hrs 00mins
Registration: B-HSG
1st Flight: 25 Mar 1998

Preflight
After a quick 24hrs in Beijing and Tianjin its time to head back home albeit with an overnight stay in Hong Kong. After meetings in Tianjin I took the reliable bullet train back to Beijing and from there my pre-arranged driver took me to Beijing Capital International Airport.
The bullet train taking me back to Beijing, sadly a similar train crashed outside the city of Wuhan just a few days after I was done with this trip


Had about 2 hours to spare before departure so I checked if there were any earlier flight to HKG, there was but it was delayed and due to depart only after my original flight. Hence I decided to stick to my original flight. Managed to had a look around the airport before I proceeded to clear immigration and security formalities.

EK A380 in PEK

I Had a shower and then just spent the rest of my time in the CX/KA lounge till boarding was called.
KA Lounge in PEK

My bird taking me to HKG


Inflight
Nice and cosy in J on this A320 with only 8 seats available. Flight is full in both J and Y.
Cabin views

Inflight Mags

Menu

Mealtime

Otherwise flight itself was uneventful and managed to also take a short nap. This is my last shot just before descend commenced


Date: 22 July 2011
Route: Hong Kong (HKG) - Jakarta (CGK)
Flight: Cathay Pacific CX777
ETD: 0920
ETA: 1305
Seat: 2A (First Class)
Aircraft:B747-400
Flight time: 4hrs04mins
Registration:B-HUF
1st Flight: 05 Aug 1993

My overnight stay at the fabulous W Hotel Hong Kong


Preflight
Aftet a quick overnight stay at the great W Hotel Hong Kong, i was soon back again at HKIA and of course the fastest way was by airport express train. Check in was quick and convenient at Kowloon Station.

Taking the Airport Express train to HKIA

Once i arrived at the airport it was directly to security and immigration. Busy morning rush hour but due to HKIA's usual efficiency, took me no less than 10mins to clear both security and immigration.
HKIA


The rest of my time was just spent at The Pier First Class lounge.


Inflight
My ride to CGK

Was first to board in F.
Cabin Views


Inflight Menu



My first time jn F on the B744, usually my F runs are on the B773ER. A fantastic crew on board and service is top notch right from the start. Flight was pretty quiet in F with only me and another pax.
Taxi and take off


And the obligatory visit to the Lav


IFE


Mealtime


About to take a nice long nap


Great service is ensured throughout the flight and the crew was a real enjoyable bunch. Looking forward to my next CX suites flight to LAX on 25th Aug.

My next trips are:

1. Paris and Frankfurt with TG F and Lufthansa Private Jet between LBG & FRA!! (Trip done, just need me to finish up the report)
2. Los Angeles, San Diego & Vegas with CX F and domestic USA with private jets
3. Frankfurt with the usual TG F

That’s my trips that are lined up till end of Sep 2011. Will have more after that.

Please also enjoy my previous TR’s from newest to oldest.

Japan With TG's B744 In F & A345 In J (by thaia345 Jul 17 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines All New A333 In J (by thaia345 Jun 14 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines First Class To Syd (by thaia345 Jun 12 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines All New B738 In J (by thaia345 May 19 2011 in Trip Reports)
Suite Dreams - Thai Royal First B773ER & B744 (by thaia345 Apr 3 2011 in Trip Reports)
Thai A340-600: Royal First Class (by thaia345 Apr 2 2011 in Trip Reports)
Garuda's New B738 In J With MH A333/772ER (by thaia345 Mar 7 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia B772ER & All Nippon B772/3 Business Class (by thaia345 Mar 5 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia AIrlines A333 Business Class (Pics) (by thaia345 Mar 2 2011 in Trip Reports)
Cathay Pacific Regional Business Class (Pics) (by thaia345 Mar 2 2011 in Trip Reports)
Thai Airways Suites - Part II (by thaia345 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
Thai Airways Suites - 1st Trip Report - Part I (by thaia345 Oct 28 2010 in Trip Reports)
Suites By Cathay Pacific (B773ER) Part II (by thaia345 Oct 27 2010 in Trip Reports)
Suites By Cathay Pacific (B773ER) Part I (by thaia345 Oct 26 2010 in Trip Reports)
Flying The Royal First Class On Thai (by thaia345 Mar 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
First Class Suites On Cathay Pacific - Part II (by thaia345 Mar 30 2010 in Trip Reports)
First Class Suites On Cathay Pacific-Part I (by thaia345 Mar 29 2010 in Trip Reports)
M'sia Airlines Business Class CGK-HKG Return (by thaia345 Feb 23 2010 in Trip Reports)
Another TG Royal First Class Experience (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Jan 15 2010 in Trip Reports)
KLM B773ER - The New World Business Class (by ThaiA345 Oct 10 2009 in Trip Reports)
Garuda's "new" B737-800 - A Short Trip To SUB (by ThaiA345 Aug 10 2009 in Trip Reports)
Royal First Class/J On TG (FRA,BCN,MXP) Part II (by ThaiA345 Aug 6 2009 in Trip Reports)
Royal First Class On TG(FRA, BCN,MXP) & Back! (by ThaiA345 Aug 3 2009 in Trip Reports)
CX New J Class On A333 And F, With J On KA (by ThaiA345 Jul 16 2009 in Trip Reports)
Jakarta-Lanzarote! TG In F MH In J AB In Y (PICS) (by ThaiA345 Apr 18 2009 in Trip Reports)
Malaysian Hospitality To Perth (MH In J) (by ThaiA345 Apr 11 2009 in Trip Reports)
Yokoso Japan! MH/NH In J (many Pics) (by ThaiA345 Apr 4 2009 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class: Malaysian Hospitality KUL-PER-KUL Pics (by ThaiA345 Jan 13 2009 in Trip Reports)
Thai 1st Class On The B744 & A346 (by ThaiA345 Dec 18 2008 in Trip Reports)
Business Class, QF, MH, KL: Going Home Part 2/2 (by ThaiA345 Nov 7 2008 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines 1st Class: Down Under Part 1/2 (by ThaiA345 Nov 6 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Business Class - CGK-SUBvv (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Aug 10 2008 in Trip Reports)
Malaysian Business Class, CGK-KIX (by ThaiA345 Aug 5 2008 in Trip Reports)
Long Haul! Jakarta-Seville TG-F, MH/LH-J (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Jul 25 2008 in Trip Reports)
Incredible India! CGK-DEL With MH In J (PICS) (by ThaiA345 Jul 14 2008 in Trip Reports)
Germany From SE Asia: TG F, MH J, LH J (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Jun 30 2008 in Trip Reports)
Business Class: Garuda To Hongkong & Back (by ThaiA345 Apr 24 2008 in Trip Reports)
Bali On Garuda J Class B734 & B738 (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Mar 19 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Domestic J Class, Jakarta-Palembangvv Pics (by ThaiA345 Mar 12 2008 in Trip Reports)
MH Is Malaysian Hospitality Pt II, Bak Fr PER In J (by ThaiA345 Mar 6 2008 in Trip Reports)
MH Is Malaysian Hospitality Pt I, J To PER (by ThaiA345 Feb 28 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Domestic (Floods And Airport Closures!) (by ThaiA345 Feb 3 2008 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class:LAX-CGK W TG LA Express Part 2 (by ThaiA345 Feb 2 2008 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class:CGK To LAX W TG LA Express Part 1 (by ThaiA345 Jan 31 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Business Class: To Semarang & Back! (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Dec 15 2007 in Trip Reports)
Garuda In Y: Jakarta-Surabaya (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Dec 9 2007 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class Battle: SQ,MH,TG,NH All In 1 Trip (by ThaiA345 Nov 19 2007 in Trip Reports)
Part II, Great China Trip In J & Y(tons Of Pics) (by ThaiA345 Oct 28 2007 in Trip Reports)
A Great China Trip! In Both J & Y (Lotsa Pics) (by ThaiA345 Oct 24 2007 in Trip Reports)
1st Class On TG A346/B744 MUC & FRA (PICS) (by ThaiA345 Sep 18 2007 in Trip Reports)
Down Under To Perth, TG & MH In J (by ThaiA345 Sep 3 2007 in Trip Reports)
B737-900ER! T.R, 1st Time Seen On A.Net! (by ThaiA345 Jul 10 2007 in Trip Reports)
Semarang-A Small Town In Java With GA In Y (by ThaiA345 Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)
Bali: A Trip To Paradise With GA In J (by ThaiA345 Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)
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16 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlinejoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 806 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 22913 times:

Very nice report to read.

Enjoyed it a lot


User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 22770 times:

Quoting joffie (Reply 1):
Very nice report to read.

Enjoyed it a lot

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it


User currently onlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8506 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 21872 times:
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Great report, hoot to see CX and Dragonair service, never knew the latter had F seating, thought it was just J and Y.

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlinePeterJ From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 21491 times:

Great read. Interesting to see the diversity of hard product within CX/Dragonair.

User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 20771 times:

Hi

Nice trip report, it was an enjoyable read. As mentioned by PeterJ, It is interesting to see the diversity of the hard product offerings of Cathay and Dragonair.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 20521 times:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 3):
Great report, hoot to see CX and Dragonair service, never knew the latter had F seating, thought it was just J and Y.

Hi Mark, KA do have F seating on some of their A330's but not much, i think mainly on the A333 which flies to PEK and PVG

Quoting PeterJ (Reply 4):
nteresting to see the diversity of hard product within CX/Dragonair.
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 5):
It is interesting to see the diversity of the hard product offerings of Cathay and Dragonair.

Actually it is a bit confusing for customers as sometimes you really do not know what you are going to get, something like TG and their ever so often equipment swaps!


User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 18785 times:

Great report thaia345!

Just to my curious, based on your frequent travel on CX F and TG F, which one do you more preferred? And is there any reason for you to stick with TG besides the lounge that you mentioned?

Cheers!

flythere


User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 18641 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 7):
CX F and TG F, which one do you more preferred? And is there any reason for you to stick with TG besides the lounge that you mentioned?

Hi Flythere!

If you compare the regular TG F product on the A346 & B744, i will take CX anytime. But if I am to fly on TG's leased B773ER from 9W, i do like it better as the suite has a much higher level of privacy. But in generic comparisons both have plus and minus which are:

1. CX Suites are more spacious than TG
2. On TG leased 9W bird, there is more privacy
3. CX has the much better bed comfort and IFE
4. TG is much cheaper in F than CX
5. Lounge and groudndservice in home airports (HKG for CX and BKK for TG), TG is way ahead on this aspect.

Hope these comparisons makes some sense  


User currently offlineB7474 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 17659 times:

Very nice trip enjoy it 100% love CX.

User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 17549 times:

Looks like you stayed in some nice hotels. USD120 for the Raffles in Tianjin is a great bargain. Interesting mix of airlines and classes. J,F,J,F!


http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LHR-GVA-LHR-TXL-LHR-VE-PRN,SPU-OSL-LHR, LGW-DXB-BKK-DXB-LHR
User currently offlineronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1653 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17300 times:

Hi TGA345,

The Raffles Tianjin by far was the ultimate highlight of this TR! What a beauty!!!!

Great report! I haven't seen KA's F cabin before, and the seating looks okay. Though how much different is the service to KA's already quite expanded J service?

As for CX's regional J seats, it's nothing to write home about, but i still think the seats are extremely comfortable!

And since your TR, CX now have new menu designs, which feature covers that are more plain and much simpler than the older versions (a trend many airlines seem to be adopting of late).


Thanks for sharing! Hope all is well!  


Cheers,
Roni



A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 17122 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 10):
Interesting mix of airlines and classes. J,F,J,F!

This is due to the varied equipment that operates the routes i am flying.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 11):
Though how much different is the service to KA's already quite expanded J service?

Almost the same but it does feel a little more personalised though

Quoting ronerone (Reply 11):
And since your TR, CX now have new menu designs, which feature covers that are more plain and much simpler than the older versions (a trend many airlines seem to be adopting of late).


Thanks for sharing! Hope all is well!

You are welcome, and thanks for updating me on the Menu design. i am in LAX now, flying back on Tuesday on CX F, so maybe i can see the new menus then


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5075 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16079 times:

Quoting thaia345 (Reply 12):

You are welcome, and thanks for updating me on the Menu design. i am in LAX now, flying back on Tuesday on CX F, so maybe i can see the new menus then

= WOW! I was on the LAX-HKG flight on Tuesday as well - how weird/ironic/sad. Though, which rotation were you on? Sadly, I was seated in J.

Thanks again for yet another stellar report. Personally, I find it unacceptable that CX can still get away with these JCL products regionally. And, maybe it is just me - but I found the meal service on CX's outbound legs to be very small?

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15494 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
Though, which rotation were you on? Sadly, I was seated in J.

Hi Alex, i was actually on the CX881 rotation which departed LAX on 07 Sep at 0130hrs. Whivh one were you on?

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
Personally, I find it unacceptable that CX can still get away with these JCL products regionally. And, maybe it is just me - but I found the meal service on CX's outbound legs to be very small?

Actually regional product wise, CX is really behind now, especially with TG using their newer A333 with lie flats or refurbished B777's also with lie flats around the region. My pick flying from CGK to HKG is usually GA due to their far superior inflight products.


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5075 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12610 times:

Quoting thaia345 (Reply 14):
Hi Alex, i was actually on the CX881 rotation which departed LAX on 07 Sep at 0130hrs. Whivh one were you on?

= Haha. I am sure I ran into you without knowing you   - I was on 883 on 6SEP. Next time, we coordinate better!

Quoting thaia345 (Reply 14):
Actually regional product wise, CX is really behind now, especially with TG using their newer A333 with lie flats or refurbished B777's also with lie flats around the region. My pick flying from CGK to HKG is usually GA due to their far superior inflight products.

= Agreed. I am dying to try GA - all I hear is how fantastic it is. Do you think they can maintain it?

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlinethaia345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 877 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10525 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 15):
Agreed. I am dying to try GA - all I hear is how fantastic it is. Do you think they can maintain it?

Hi ALex.....yup, so far GA is maintaining their inflight product and service in J. On all aircraft from the B738 and A333/2. Only aircraft to avoid are the classic B737's which are far and few in between anyways, and their B744 which are mainly used on Haj flights.

As long as you stick to their mainline route, you will get their new aircraft with new inflight product.

Cheers

Herbert


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