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A Mix Of Blue And Green: BRU-HEL-RIX-BRU On KF/BT  
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7782 times:

Hi folks!

Ever since my first and also latest trip to HEL on LH (to be found here: Tales From The North: Heaven To HEL And Back On LH (by sultanils May 23 2011 in Trip Reports)) I was determined to pay HEL another visit, but now the proper way, meaning on a Finnish carrier (Blue1 or Finnair). My next idea was to try and combine this with a trip on Estonian Air’s CR9, a lovely regional jet and an airline with a great color scheme imho. Searching for fares yielded some interesting facts… Finnair was quickly ruled out because too expensive, I’d expected that. Blue1 had a good deal: € 110 from BRU to TLL via HEL, whereas BRU-HEL was to be operated by the beloved B717, and HEL-TLL by Golden Air’s AT42. An interesting combo for sure, so booked without any hesitation. Estonian Air had a promotion going on: € 79 one way from TLL to BRU in the evening on the CR9, so perfect to conclude this daytrip.

But… as usual I waited a day too long and the Estonian Air fare rose to as high as € 140 for the same travel date, bummer… I waited some more weeks and kept checking the Estonian Air’s site for more promotions but alas, prices kept on roller coasting up and down but they never reached again the amount I was willing to spend. So I looked for another solution: Air Baltic came up with a good solution: HEL-BRU via RIX for about € 70. OK, I thought, so I might just ‘not fly’ the HEL-TLL leg from Blue1 and just settle with BRU-HEL. And you know: BRU-HEL was actually € 20 more expensive than BRU-TLL so in the end I made me my own promo.

Since I wanted to make sure this was all going to work out, I contacted fellow user FlyingFinn for some advice, it seems he knows a thing or 2 about flights in the Northern region. In reply FlyingFinn mentioned he had also booked HEL-RIX that day on Air Baltic so we automatically qualified for a a.net meet and a joint flight. No need to tell I was most happy with that!

Then some 3 weeks before the flight I received and email from Blue1 informing me that my flight to TLL (which by now I was theoretically still booked on) had undergone some changes and I was now rebooked onto SAS via CPH. Goddamn, that was the last thing I needed right now. After contacting the Blue1 service center and dissing up some fake explanation as to why this new routing was not suitable for me, they kindly rebooked me on the Blue1 BRU-HEL which I was originally to take. Sigh… I was happy now and all set to go on the following simple route: BRU-HEL-RIX-BRU.

On the day of travel, I decided for once to go to the airport with my motorbike, saving me already € 16 on parking fees. The one disadvantage of this is that I had to stow all my gear (jacket, trousers, boots, gloves, helmet and some other stuff) somewhere. A while ago I had bought myself this special Ortlieb bag which can be tightly sealed and locked to I decided to use this one and stuff all my gear in it and lock it up to my bike and hoping it’ll all be there when I came back.

Having done olci the day before (with seat advice from FlyingFinn, thanks!) I immediately proceeded to the A terminal arriving there at about 1h prior to boarding of my first flight.

BRU terminal A shopping arcade:


And the obligatory shot upon entering terminal A:


Interestingly, the inbound flight arrives at 8h40 and doesn’t leave again at 9h50, all scheduled times. That’s a bit of a long ground time, not? Well, at least on time departure would be most likely now.

FIDS at gate, note the codeshare with Brussels Airlines:


Another FIDS, I guess LIS bound passengers will not be happy:


During the little wait, I did spot the usual suspects and used my cell phone to browse on the free WiFi (at least for me) provided at BRU.

To Montréal and to Addis Ababa (you’ll know which one goes where I guess):


Jet’s go to JFK, DEL, MAA, EWR, YYZ, BOM or MUC?


Dedicated to Airbuseric:


Some more Jet’s…


During my wait at the gate I got a text message from FlyingFinn informing me that OH-BLG would have the honors today of bringing me to HEL, and indeed not before long this lovely machine came into sight after smoothly kissing rwy 25R.

OH-BLG inbound from hell… err HEL, perfectly on schedule:


Parked at gate A52:


And OH-BLG indeed!


Boarding started around 9h20 and by the looks of it, the load would be very light this morning. My bp was scanned and I was wished a ‘goede vlucht’ by the friendly gate agent.



Flight: KF802
Aircraft: B717-200 (B712)
Reg: OH-BLG
STD-STA: 9h50-13h20 (2h30 flight time)
Class/Seat: Y/9F


Shot from the glass jetbridge


My first Finnish words: ‘blue flow’


A friendly nod from one of the 3 female flight attendants and moments later I plunged down into the soft blue cloth seats. Comfy enough with ample legroom, 2 empty seats next to me and a clean window. During the usual welcome announcements in Finnish, Swedish and English I was watching the ground crew loading some cats, their moaning was even heard in the cabin. I wouldn’t like to be boxed in either…

Not ‘raining cats & dogs’ but ‘loading cats & dogs’


Neighbour about to push back


And we are pushing back as well


Passing by


Who will be going first? (It was us)


On the way to rwy 25L we passed the usual SN big ones, being prepared to fly into the African continent.

Lovely SN A333


There’s Belle and I’m (in) the Beast


Entering 25R for departure


The takeoff run was short and powerful. I took a photo in line with the window which shows how steep we actually went.


Some pics of BRU’s premises…




A look at our departure runway, 25R:


We were in the clouds quickly and after a while established on cruise altitude of 34000 feet. A service run was conducted by the 3 female f/a’s: coffee & tea on the house and the rest was bob. I got myself a cup of tea or two and some delicious chocolate wafers to go with that.


Emerging above the cloud layer:




A view on ‘rural’ Flanders:


And passing by Doel’s nuclear power plant at Antwerp harbor


So what happens when drinking lots of tea: you gotta go! I chose the toilet in the back. The back cabin was quite noisy due to the presence of the engines, luckily FlyingFinn advised me on taking the seats in front.

Cabin shot from the back of the bus


A browse through the inflight magazine revealed this promo article on the Belgian city of Gent.


A while into the flight the front office told us we were speeding at +900 km/h and because of the favorable jetstream today that would give us an ontime arrival. That would prove otherwise later in the day…

Some 30 mins before landing, the sky cleared up some, permitting some nice views down on approaching HEL. I’m sure our ‘local residents’ can call all these views by name!

Interestingly only clouds above land:














Pine forests all the way


After arrival on 22L, we taxied to gate 15 at T1. I bid farewell to the ladies and thanked them for the flight.




For Airbuseric as well:




Bye to the ladies!


Our neighbour still wears the old clothes, as favoured by many among us.


Although I also like these new ones…


I met up with FlyingFinn in T1 and we did some chit chat at a bar (thanks again for the sweets!) while waiting for our flight to RIX to board. Soon enough we went to and through the gate (apparently being the last passengers) and boarded the bus at the bottom of the stairs. We drove off to the apron and stopped in front of this lady:



Under wing shot:


And the tail section:


Upon boarding FlyingFinn advised me of the typical Air Baltic F50 smell I was about to, well… smell and indeed it was nasty.



Flight: BT306
Aircraft: Fokker-50 (F50)
Reg: YL-BAO
STD-STA: 14h40-15h45 (1h05 flight time)
Class/Seat: Y/14A


Minutes later I found myself in seat 14A at the back, the plane ended up being 100% full. 2 f/a’s on duty on this service. After the demo, we went off on our own power and left the buildings via rwy 22L.

The legroom was acceptable on this one but the cabin looked in general very well used, no wonder on this 21y old bird.






Upon climbout I was met again with some lovely Helsinki views:






Service was bob as expected, I got myself a Twix bar. A quick word from the flight deck announcing an ontime arrival in sunny Riga. That sounded promising. Meanwhile the f/a’s also advised connecting passengers on the gate numbers for their next flight.

Passing by the city of Tallinn:


And the city of Pärnu and it’s airport:


Closing in on Riga, this is the mouth of the Daugava river, flowing through the city.


Still following the coast:


And passing by what appears to be a water refinery station:


After touching down on rwy18 in not-so-sunny Riga (where did the guys in the flight deck see this sun then?), we taxied to our apron stand from where a bus would bring us to the terminal.


Smartlynx: nice machine!




One last cabin shot, you can actually see on every corner of the seat that is has been touched a lot!


Bye bye now!


Once in the terminal, FlyingFinn was able to guest me into his second home (as he calls it): the Air Baltic lounge, a nice little tranquil place.

There was a nice view:


We talked some more this & that but soon enough the lounge staff came to advise me that my flight was boarding. I said FlyingFinn goodbye and went off to gate B7 to get onboard. I overheard one of the passengers complaining to the gate staff that ‘normally they have a “37” to BRU and now this little machine’. He had to give his rollercase to the loaders when arriving at the plane because there was not enough place in the overhead bins. Tsss…



Flight: BT603
Aircraft: Bombardier Dash 8-400
Reg: YL-BAJ
STD-STA: 17h15-18h40 (3h25 flight time)
Class/Seat: Y/21D



Lovely looking Dash, only 8 months old (dedicated to Palmjet)


Some company traffic:


I wanted to get the registration but due to the fuselage curvature at the back end I had to move quite a distance from the line in which everyone was queuing to board. I decided not to bother and look at it later. By now it was raining anyway…


I like this angle!


A modern aircraft according to the titles on the fuselage:


I plunged into my seat, window last row after a warm welcome from 1 of the 2 male f/a’s, this plane would also fill up to ‘all seats taken’ meaning a seat, err… a suitmate next to me. Flight time was announced as a lengthy 2h55 mins. Later on I found out why…
Leaving the gate after being pushed away:


And off we roll via rwy 18:


And liftoff into the rainy Latvian skies…


Yep, most definitely NOT sunny!


Halfway through the flight, the English captain came on the horn and shared some of the flightdata with us: we were cruising at (only) 500 km/h into a strong jetstream at about 7,5 km altitude. Now that explains the long flighttime. This morning the B717 was almost twice as fast with favourable winds.

How it looked from the inside:


Now as much as I like the Dash, 3h being seated in these narrow seats with a seatmate with broad shoulders was not exactly to my liking but I just glued my eyes to the window and watched the clouds flow by…




The f/a’s came round with snacks and drinks and since I had not eaten a decent meal since morning breakfast I decided to splurge myself into a hot chicken/cheese sandwich for € 3,5. It was huge and tasty!
It was a tight fit between seats, seatmate and backpack. Luckily I could recline the seat!


Getting nearer to destination BRU, the clouds lifted up and I was again able to enjoy some nice views.

Somewhere over The Netherlands:


I can’t exactly tell which airport this is…


Nor do I know where this is (at least somewhere in the south of The Netherlands):


Holland’s estuaries:


After indeed some 2h40 mins, the engines throttled back and we started our final approach into BRU’s rwy 25L.




Original publicity stunt from radio station ‘Q-Music’, refering to their summer beachhouse located at the North Seaside:


After a smooth touchdown, followed by hard braking (I almost got projected into the seat in front), we made our way to the A terminal and docked in at gate 65.




While walking to the finger, I was able to spot the registration luckily:


And so another nice day of flying came sadly to an end. A quick walk and some 15 mins later I was back at my motorbike with all my gear still at the same place at which I left it in the morning, phew…

So all good experiences today on blue & green, with today’s highlight definitely being the Blue1 B717. I also would like to thank FlyingFinn for his company and advice, it was a pleasure meeting you! "We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day" (© Vera Lynn).

Thanks for taking the time to read and feel free to post your comments,
Nils


In thrust we trust.
38 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7732 times:

Hi Nils, good report, good pics! Glad you figured out the issues you had with posting them in this report!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The takeoff run was short and powerful. I took a photo in line with the window which shows how steep we actually went.

But you've to get the horizon levelled also to get even a better idea  

btw, nice to meet up with FF in HEL, something to do for me also soon again (although I see him quite often lately haha).

It's very interesting to see the Q400 on the BRU leg, actually, I noticed this BT flight passing over my house (and AMS) recently and thought about the long duration on a prop to RIX! Sure it was the case for you also, and knowing the Q400, definitely not a comfortable ride in these narrow seats.

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 720 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7703 times:

Hi Nils,

nice report, for sure an interesting day of flying there. And what a nice coincidence to share a flight with a fellow a.netter. But then, I guess it is not too hard to meet FlyingFinn on board of a BT plane  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Then some 3 weeks before the flight I received and email from Blue1 informing me that my flight to TLL (which by now I was theoretically still booked on) had undergone some changes and I was now rebooked onto SAS via CPH.

Oh dear. Well, that can happen when you book such a routing. Fortunately you could have changed it again to your original schedule.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
OH-BLG inbound from hell… err HEL, perfectly on schedule:

For sure a nice plane, and imho a very stylish livery.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Upon boarding FlyingFinn advised me of the typical Air Baltic F50 smell I was about to, well… smell and indeed it was nasty.

I have also booked a ride in one of these planes. Maybe I should bring something to stuck in my nose   But anyway I am looking forward to it since it will be my first ride on a F50.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Flight time was announced as a lengthy 2h55 mins.

Wow, that's a long ride in a Dash 8. Guess it wasn't that comfortable, especially on a full flight.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Original publicity stunt from radio station ‘Q-Music’, refering to their summer beachhouse located at the North Seaside:

Nice idea. A lot of passengers seeing this will probably wonder what it means.

Anyway thanks again for sharing your trip with us, also with some great pictures.

CaptainRed


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7609 times:

Hi Nils

A great report - what a nice day's flying you had. The 717 is a lovely aircraft to fly on. I've not been on one for some time - the last was in 2003 according to my log. Blue1 look like they did the job. Great weather for your HEL stopover too.

Nice that you got to meet up with FF as well. Having said that, given the amount of flights he takes on Air Baltic, it was not surprising he was on your flight !   I am passing through HEL this Saturday - wonder if he's going to be at the airport then?

Quote:
Lovely looking Dash, only 8 months old (dedicated to Palmjet)

Ha! You are too kind. What a great looking machine. I will definitely have to try and get on one of these soon. However, I would totally agree with you about your comments regarding seat width. After reading your report, I remembered what it was like when I flew to Canberra from Sydney earlier this year on a Qantaslink Dash 8 - 400. It had identical seats to the Baltic machine, and I had a guy sitting next to me. I did feel quite squished, which is a shame, because for some reason, I've never felt cramped on the -300 or -200 or -100!

Cheers again.

PS was all your motorbike gear where you left it at BRU when you got back??



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7605 times:

sorry - just re-read the last paragraph of your report to see that happily all your stuff was there when you got back to BRU !


Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7575 times:

Hi Nils!

I had a blast reading this well written trip report.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
My next idea was to try and combine this with a trip on Estonian Air’s CR9, a lovely regional jet and an airline with a great color scheme imho

Agreed about that livery.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
And the obligatory shot upon entering terminal A:

Beautiful.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Parked at gate A52:

Beautiful.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I plunged into my seat, window last row

I sat there when traveling to RIX during Easter. Great seat, its private, no engine blocking the views, and no reduced recline.

Martin


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7412 times:

Hi Nils,

Nice of you to have this report up so quickly. A nice view of my familiar surroundings and things from another perspective and of course very nice that we could have that joint flight and some time together!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
and HEL-TLL by Golden Air’s AT42

ATR 72-500 actually.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
But… as usual I waited a day too long and the Estonian Air fare rose to as high as € 140 for the same travel date,

That has happened to me far often than I like to admit! That's why I nowadays act fast.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
seems he knows a thing or 2 about flights in the Northern regio

Do I?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The one disadvantage of this is that I had to stow all my gear (jacket, trousers, boots, gloves, helmet and some other stuff) somewhere.

I actually forgot to mention - at least some years ago there were storage lockers at BRU airport, I left my bag there once when making a daytrip to Antwerp (yeah, funny coincidence). They are well hidden, you had to go some levels down inside the parking garage to find them - but the directions were to be found on the airport website.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
(with seat advice from FlyingFinn, thanks!)

NP. Don't want you to have DVT because of the cramped seats!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Another FIDS, I guess LIS bound passengers will not be happy:

Interesting to see different languages displayed there at the same time.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
My first Finnish words: ‘blue flow’

Actually it is not a direct translation. "Sinen Virta" is more like "Flow of the Blueness" etc. but that sounds a bit lame in English.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Not ‘raining cats & dogs’ but ‘loading cats & dogs’
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
There’s Belle and I’m (in) the Beast

Hah, some trademark puns of yours!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
A look at our departure runway, 25R:

Wow, that's a very steep turn!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The back cabin was quite noisy due to the presence of the engines, luckily FlyingFinn advised me on taking the seats in front.

The noise is one thing, but seating comfort and legroom is another, more burning issue IMHO.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m sure our ‘local residents’ can call all these views by name!

Yep, looks pretty familiar to me! Interesting approach - you flew pretty much directly over the Helsinki city center all the way to Vuosaari and the new port there before turning northward, flying across my city of Vantaa and then turning left and lining up for finals over Kerava. This is not the most common one, so actually an A seat would probably been a bit better for views!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Upon boarding FlyingFinn advised me of the typical Air Baltic F50 smell I was about to, well… smell and indeed it was nasty.

So now you know what I'm talking about!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
After touching down on rwy18 in not-so-sunny Riga (where did the guys in the flight deck see this sun then?),

Yeah, I wondered the same thing. The captain must've been smoking some good stuff...

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Flight time was announced as a lengthy 2h55 mins. Later on I found out why…
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
This morning the B717 was almost twice as fast with favourable winds.

Yep, that's the way it goes when you do roundtrips in a single day. The wind rarely changes that rapidly, so one way you win, the other way you loose, so you come out even in the end.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Now as much as I like the Dash, 3h being seated in these narrow seats with a seatmate with broad shoulders was not exactly to my liking but I just glued my eyes to the window and watched the clouds flow by…

A shame you ended up with a seat mate, that seat is otherwise quite nice. But yeah, it gets quite cramped after an hour or so if you have someone sitting next to you.

The longest flight I ever did on the Dash was SAS BHX-ARN, over three hours. That was quite a stretch!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The f/a’s came round with snacks and drinks and since I had not eaten a decent meal since morning breakfast I decided to splurge myself into a hot chicken/cheese sandwich for € 3,5. It was huge and tasty!

Come on! I told you to help yourself freely in the lounge - you could've saved some money. They had some quite nice hot sandwiches there which I've never seen before. I think I ate four  .

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Nor do I know where this is (at least somewhere in the south of The Netherlands):

Nope, it is not. This is still Germany, albeit at he border with NL. The city is Emden, featured in a Markus trip report some years ago!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I can’t exactly tell which airport this is…

Nils Nils Nils, you keep confusing me with your (false) assumptions about your whereabouts. After I found the above place it was easy to do this as well. This is ETNT – Wittmundhafen Air Base in Germany!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I also would like to thank FlyingFinn for his company and advice, it was a pleasure meeting you!

Yep, the feeling's mutual! Too bad there never is enough time!

You are welcome to come back any time!


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 7195 times:

Hi, thanks for all the comments so far!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
Hi Nils, good report, good pics! Glad you figured out the issues you had with posting them in this report!

Thanks Eric, I got the issues solved, just loaded them again in my beloved Picasa  

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
But you've to get the horizon levelled also to get even a better idea

That's also true, but I like this angle more.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
definitely not a comfortable ride in these narrow seats

Not with a wider-than-the-seat seatmate...

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 2):
nice report, for sure an interesting day of flying there.

Thanks CaptainRed!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 2):
I guess it is not too hard to meet FlyingFinn on board of a BT plane

True, but it wasn't coincidence, it was more 'very good' planning  

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 2):
Maybe I should bring something to stuck in my nose

Actually, the initial smell is not good, but like most 'smells': you get used to it quite quickly and in the end it's gone... at least in my nose it was.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 2):
Wow, that's a long ride in a Dash 8. Guess it wasn't that comfortable, especially on a full flight.

Yep, almost 3h in a Dash but I did enjoy it.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 3):
Great weather for your HEL stopover too.

Yep, has something to do with my karma I guess   

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 3):
I am passing through HEL this Saturday - wonder if he's going to be at the airport then?

You can always ask? Just flying to HEL or some other flights as well?

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 3):
What a great looking machine

Yes, it looks very neat, also from the inside.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 4):
sorry - just re-read the last paragraph of your report to see that happily all your stuff was there when you got back to BRU !

 

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
I had a blast reading this well written trip report.

Thanks, deltamartin!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
Great seat, its private, no engine blocking the views, and no reduced recline.

Indeed it was a great seat in itself!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Nils Nils Nils, you keep confusing me with your (false) assumptions about your whereabouts. After I found the above place it was easy to do this as well. This is ETNT – Wittmundhafen Air Base in Germany!
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Actually it is not a direct translation. "Sinen Virta" is more like "Flow of the Blueness" etc. but that sounds a bit lame in English.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
ATR 72-500 actually.

I stand corrected  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
That's why I nowadays act fast.

I'm more the 'let's maybe wait another day' type, definitely not always good...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
at least some years ago there were storage lockers at BRU airport

There still are and I know where but they also cost some €'s, I prefered to do it this way albeit I felt I was a bit pushing my luck here...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Hah, some trademark puns of yours!

That's me indeed  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
so actually an A seat would probably been a bit better for views!

Hey, I originally had an A seat  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 6):
Come on! I told you to help yourself freely in the lounge - you could've saved some money.

You're most right, I did not take advantage of that. Time limit taking over my hunger. But the pannini was nice enough!

   Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 7120 times:

Hi Nils,

Thanks for posting such a interesting report. And what a cool way to spend the day, flying around nothern Europe. So how does the B. 717 compare in terms of noise, acceleration and climb to the mighty MD-80?

By the way, I booked a trip from CPH via HEL to OUL and back in December on KF. In any case, a few days after I made the booking I got a mail from KF stating that I could request an upgrade to C for 90 Euros per leg, which, if I accepted, would be billed immediately and refunded in case the upgrade request could not be confirmed. Has anybody ever tried this, does it work?

Againk, thanks for posting. I enjoyed reading this!
William


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 7097 times:

Hi William (or Bill if you prefer?),

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 8):
By the way, I booked a trip from CPH via HEL to OUL and back in December on KF. In any case, a few days after I made the booking I got a mail from KF stating that I could request an upgrade to C for 90 Euros per leg, which, if I accepted, would be billed immediately and refunded in case the upgrade request could not be confirmed. Has anybody ever tried this, does it work?

Sure, that's Optiontown. Works like a charm with KF. Odds for your upgrade clearing are very good. I've used it many times - check some of my KF reports for descriptions if you want.

However in this case I'd think of it twice - are you sure it is 90 EUR per leg as that seems very excessive to me. CPH-HEL usually goes for 49 EUR and domestic Finland for 25-39 EUR per flight.

Just log in to optiontown.com with your PNR details and it will give you a breakdown of the prices.

First of all bear in mind that this is not C but KF's Premium economy product. Quite nice on the longer filghts, though. But for this itinerary you do not get lounge access (only on "European flights" - apparently DK/NO/SE/FI aren't Europe by KF's definition) and for CPH-HEL you get quite a nice cold meal and unlimited drinks (but no champers). For OUL-HEL you get some sort of sandwich but apart from that it's the same coffee/tea/water service than in regular economy, so not much use upgrading.

The only good thing is that if you are crediting your miles to Eurobonus to get full biz class mileage (200%) instead of the normal 25% in el cheapo economy. Not sure about other mileage programs though, your mileage may vary (pun intended).

If you decide to upgrade I wouldn't do it right now, though - more like a month before departure. No point tying up the funds in a gamble for so long - then again with the world economy going down the drain might be a better investment than anything else  .


Finally if you need any advice regarding Finland or have time for a meeting at HEL drop me PM, I'll gladly help.


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 7048 times:

Hi Nils,

Always a delight to read a report about the Northern countries & hear about an a.net meet. It seems the schedule/fare changes kept you busy, glad it all worked out in the end & KF let you rebook without any problems.

Love your photos of BRU from above as well as HEL, it's a beautiful approach.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I contacted fellow user FlyingFinn for some advice, it seems he knows a thing or 2 about flights in the Northern region.

That's an understatement if ever I heard one!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Not ‘raining cats & dogs’ but ‘loading cats & dogs’

Hehe!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Cabin shot from the back of the bus

Makes you realise just what a low load it was on that leg.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Our neighbour still wears the old clothes, as favoured by many among us.

Me included!

Interesting to see a direct comparison of what a effect strong tail/headwinds can have on the flight time and glad to hear your stuff was still attached to the bike when you returned.

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

Hi, Nils,

what a great read and pictures. Sure interesting to follow you´re experience. More on all these machines coming up from my hand also, well, soon, if there are not all that reports to follow here!.
Great that you meet P. at his homebase, always good to know that something like this is possible for us.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 6908 times:

Hi Nils!

Very nice report with nice pictures! Blue1 seems really nice and great to catch a ride with a 717 which is rare (unless you fly on KF   )

I like your take off picture which shows the seep angle, very effective picture!

Good that the flight on the F50 was so short with that nasty smell....

3h on a Dash 8 seems very long and it looks a bit cramped as well.....

Nice to fly with FlyingFinn and especially from his home airport into his second-home airport!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineHELyes From Thailand, joined Oct 2010, 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 6877 times:

Thanks for the TR, good reading, great views!

BRU will get this pretty 717 in the future too, while Blue1 will say good bye to AMS, CDG, TXL, MUC, TXL and TLL this fall and to LHR later in the winter. They will focus on the intra Nordic markets, hopefully that brings them back to the tracks.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Interestingly only clouds above land:
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Upon climbout I was met again with some lovely Helsinki views:

I can see my neighbourhood in Southern Helsinki there and my future corners too, perhaps. The large empty space by the sea next to the city center, ex merchant harbour, is a big housing project for some 15,000 new inhabitants. In 2009 Madonna had a little party there for her 85,000 Finnish friends.


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6797 times:

Hi everyone, many thanks for your kind replies, much appreciated!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 8):
Thanks for posting such a interesting report.

Hi William, thanks man!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 8):
So how does the B. 717 compare in terms of noise, acceleration and climb to the mighty MD-80?

Well, for me it's kinda difficult to compare since I have only flown each type once. In terms of noise I can definitely say the B717 scored better on the lower db scales than the MD-80 but that's not too difficult because with the B717 I was seated in the front and with the MD-80 next to the engine  . I think fellow a.netter FlyingFinn will gladly share his opinion on this since I believe he has quite some flights covered on both types!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 8):
Has anybody ever tried this, does it work?

Don't know, but the same user in the above comment will most likely know more  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 10):
It seems the schedule/fare changes kept you busy, glad it all worked out in the end & KF let you rebook without any problems.

Indeed, it kept me busy for some time but in the end I got what I wanted without too much of a hassle.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 10):
Love your photos of BRU from above as well as HEL, it's a beautiful approach.

Thanks, indeed HEL is a great approach over the city in these weather conditions.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
what a great read and pictures.

Thanks Markus!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
More on all these machines coming up from my hand also

Looking forward to that.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
Great that you meet P. at his homebase

  

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Very nice report with nice pictures!

Hi Lars, thank you!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Good that the flight on the F50 was so short with that nasty smell....

Well, the nasty smell was just there upon entering, and like I said: my nose is not dog sensitive so it was not a big issue. But the overall cabin condition of these F50's is really shabby...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Nice to fly with FlyingFinn and especially from his home airport into his second-home airport!

Ha ha, you hit the nail on the head with that  

Quoting HELyes (Reply 13):
Thanks for the TR, good reading, great views!

Thanks very much HELyes.

Quoting HELyes (Reply 13):
BRU will get this pretty 717 in the future too

I'm glad it stays this way for now with all these other destinations being bumped. Maybe it has something to do with the large Star Alliance presence in BRU (LH, SN among others)?

Quoting HELyes (Reply 13):
I can see my neighbourhood in Southern Helsinki

Great, I've apparently been flying over some Finnish a.net users houses there!

   Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6705 times:

Hi Nils,

Very nice report of a daytrip to P.’s hometown. I just knew he would be joining you from there!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
but now the proper way, meaning on a Finnish carrier (Blue1 or Finnair).

Way to go! Both are still missing in my log!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Estonian Air had a promotion going on: € 79 one way from TLL to BRU in the evening on the CR9, so perfect to conclude this daytrip.
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
But… as usual I waited a day too long and the Estonian Air fare rose to as high as € 140 for the same travel date, bummer…

So, you know what to do next time when you see similar promotion!   


Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I decided for once to go to the airport with my motorbike

I hope everything was still there when you returned.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
I immediately proceeded to the A terminal arriving there at about 1h prior to boarding of my first flight.

I cannot imagine doing that at Schiphol after my last experience.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Another FIDS, I guess LIS bound passengers will not be happy

Especially connecting passengers in LIS. But look at that, four different languages on the screen!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Jet’s go to JFK, DEL, MAA, EWR, YYZ, BOM or MUC?

Well, let me guess… A330 to MUC and CRJ to YYZ


Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
how steep we actually went.

I wish I can experience it myself one day!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
luckily FlyingFinn advised me on taking the seats in front.

Oh, don’t you like the whining orchestra at the rear?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
(thanks again for the sweets!)

Did P. bring along the Salmiak pastilles he gave us last July?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Once in the terminal, FlyingFinn was able to guest me into his second home (as he calls it): the Air Baltic lounge, a nice little tranquil place.

We can appropriately call it FlyingFinn Lounge!

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
He had to give his rollercase to the loaders when arriving at the plane because there was not enough place in the overhead bins. Tsss…

Social training would not be out of place for him.   


Thanks for sharing this enjoyable read and also the beautiful pictures.

Best wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6939 posts, RR: 77
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6688 times:

Hi Nils,

nice report about your journey to HEL, just too bad your original plan didn't work out. And it's certainly great to meet a.net members.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Jet’s go to JFK, DEL, MAA, EWR, YYZ, BOM or MUC?

Jet to and from BOM...coming up later this year.  




PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27312 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6629 times:

Hey very enjoyable report.  

Id love to get on Blue1 and their B717 . Nice catch . Also Id love to visit BRU/Brussels again some day . Always enjoyed that city.

Thanks for all the nice pics and read.

OA260/Philip  


User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6595 times:

Nice TR...

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Jet’s go to JFK, DEL, MAA, EWR, YYZ, BOM or MUC?

You mean Jet Airways or aircrafts with engines? Since when is Jet going to MUC?

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Upon boarding FlyingFinn advised me of the typical Air Baltic F50 smell I was about to, well… smell and indeed it was nasty.

I flew today BT and after reading your TR I was prepared for the worst, but my plane was not smelling (YL-BAW).

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
The legroom was acceptable on this one but the cabin looked in general very well used, no wonder on this 21y old bird.

Strange, also no complaints other than the yellowish overhead bins.


User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6580 times:

Hi Nils,

great report, these BT trips via RIX are getting really popular among trip reporters  
Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Our neighbour still wears the old clothes, as favoured by many among us.

Raise your hand if you like the old scheme better _o/

The new one is quite similar to JP c/s.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Flight time was announced as a lengthy 2h55 mins.

That is quite a lot of time to spend in a small aircraft.

Quoting sultanils (Thread starter):
Original publicity stunt from radio station ‘Q-Music’, refering to their summer beachhouse located at the North Seaside:

Nice idea.

Looking forward to more reports,

Blaž



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6500 times:

Hi all, great to see many more comments, thanks a lot!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Very nice report of a daytrip to P.’s hometown. I just knew he would be joining you from there!

Thanks Suryo, the fact that I would be meeting P was a giveaway, wasn't it?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
So, you know what to do next time when you see similar promotion!

  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
But look at that, four different languages on the screen!

Indeed, with all the info constantly changing on the screens (language, flight numbers, codeshares,...) one has to stand in front of the FIDS quite some time to distill the appropriate info.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Oh, don’t you like the whining orchestra at the rear?

I do, but I did not hve my earplugs with me, so a place upfront was also appreciated.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Did P. bring along the Salmiak pastilles he gave us last July?

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Thanks for sharing this enjoyable read and also the beautiful pictures.

You're welcome Suryo!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
nice report about your journey to HEL

Thanks PH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
Jet to and from BOM

Leaving from BRU?

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Hey very enjoyable report

Many thanks, Philip.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Also Id love to visit BRU/Brussels again some day . Always enjoyed that city.

You are always very welcome! Btw, I'm coming to DUB in Oct (albeit for an hour or 2  ) to check out the new terminal 2.

Quoting debonair (Reply 18):
You mean Jet Airways or aircrafts with engines? Since when is Jet going to MUC?

Look at LH tail in front of the pic, this one's for MUC. The other destinations are all for Jet Airways from BRU.

Quoting debonair (Reply 18):
I flew today BT and after reading your TR I was prepared for the worst, but my plane was not smelling (YL-BAW)
Quoting debonair (Reply 18):
Strange, also no complaints other than the yellowish overhead bins.

Well, maybe I'm not the best reference here, FlyingFinn's the gold standard concerning these BT planes  

Quoting SloAir (Reply 19):
great report,

Hi Blaz, thank you!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 19):
these BT trips via RIX are getting really popular among trip reporters

Yes, indeed. Pricing has something to do with it I guess...

Quoting SloAir (Reply 19):
That is quite a lot of time to spend in a small aircraft.

Yes it was a long time but enjoyable nevertheless.

   Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6500 times:

Hi Nils

Nice trip report, glad you enjoyed it. Looks like KF and BT are pretty good airlines. I might be looking in to them some time later this year. Fun to hear you had a mini a.net meeting on the HEL-RIX leg.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6349 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 21):
Nice trip report

Thanks MSS658!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 21):
Fun to hear you had a mini a.net meeting on the HEL-RIX leg.

Actually the meeting was sort of halted on the plane since we were not seated together...

   Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6344 times:

Hi Marc,

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 21):
Nice trip report, glad you enjoyed it. Looks like KF and BT are pretty good airlines. I might be looking in to them some time later this year.

Cool, should you decide to do it drop me a note, I'll be glad to do a short meet or whatever if possible.

Hi Nils,

Quoting sultanils (Reply 22):
Actually the meeting was sort of halted on the plane since we were not seated together...

I actually thought about asking the guy next to me if he wouldn't mind sitting next to his mate (who was next to me) as I didn't really need a window here, seen those views quite a few times (that was my 30th flight on the HEL-RIX route  ) but he and the mate were rather bulky guys and I think they enjoyed the aisle seats so decided against it...


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6342 times:

Hi Petteri,

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
but he and the mate were rather bulky guys and I think they enjoyed the aisle seats so decided against it...

Same thought here! Luckily I had the 'smaller one' sitting next to me 



   Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
25 RvXKaz : Hi Nils! I enjoyed reading your day expedition up north very much! It looked like it was a really lovely day for flying and really quite spectacular v
26 Post contains images makeree : Hi Nils, And thanks for the TR of the airlines I've been using lately. I like the pics you took and especially the ones of Helsinki when approaching t
27 Post contains images LH4116 : Hi Nils, great report! Yes that always seems to be the case with AY, although they do sometimes have good offers on flights ARN-HEL-BRU, only €180 r
28 FlyingFinn76 : Well, actually nothing coincidental about it - I booked the very same flight just to share it with Nils and to have some more time for chatting. You
29 FlyingFinn76 : Whoops, forgot this one: He bought a ticket between BRU and TLL. So that's what the airline will do their utmost to rebook him on. HEL isn't quite TLL
30 Post contains images Sultanils : Hello again & thanks for some more replies, me like like Thanks Kaz! That was the main purpose of the day initially and later on the a.net meet wa
31 Post contains images 717Flyer : Hi Nils, work, work (and again work) has prevented me from reading your report. But now I read it, and enjoyed every bit of it. Thanks for sharing, ni
32 Post contains images sultanils : Hi 717Flyer! Thanks a lot! You bet! Yes, an exotic aircraft in many ways. Hey, you're always welcome! I'm convinced now Sultanils
33 SPLTA : Hello Nils, yet another interesting story from your hand. I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks for sharing. I'm glad to hear there was no equipment change on HE
34 Post contains images Sultanils : Hi SPLTA, thanks for your reply. I'm sure happy to have scored the BT F50 and by now I also know I'm not fond of the type: cabin too cramped and most
35 Post contains images makeree : Hi, Any idea what is the opening schedule for this HRC ? Actually I live in Espoo which is the neighbour city of Helsinki and when the planes are land
36 gr8circle : 9W flights from BRU go to EWR, JFK and YYZ westbound and BOM, DEL and MAA eastbound.....the MUC bound 9W flight obviously would not touch BRU.....the
37 parton87 : Hello Nils! Thanks for the nice story! Nice to see more of BRU airport, I was there two weeks ago. It´s for sure a nice airport! I agree! I think the
38 Post contains images Sultanils : Hi Robert, You are welcome. Apparently, I saw some of you 'Bryssel' pics onFB Quite well actually, a steady flow of passengers. Sultanils
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