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A Nice Way To London: NCE-LCY BA Cityflyer (J)  
User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Posted (3 years 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12852 times:



Nice, in the South of France has long lured visitors from Europe and beyond. From the 1800s, wealthy English travellers of the Victorian era were drawn to Nice like a moth to a flame - principally for its gorgeous sea front and pleasant Mediterranean weather. Those early and adventurous travellers (for their day) left a lasting presence on Nice, particularly if you experience a leisurely stroll at sunset down the Promenade des Anglais: “Walkway of the English.”

Fast forward 170 years or so, and I was I was chatting to a friend of mine about a mutual friend, who owns an apartment in Nice, France. We were due to meet up with him for dinner a couple of weeks later, and by co-incidence, during that dinner, he suggested that we come down to Nice for the weekend to visit. I did not hesitate, having not been to Nice before, and having heard great things about this part of the world. Plus, the woeful weather we’ve been having of late in London, with no real summer to shout about meant that I was again in dire need of some warm rays.

Unlike the Victorians, I had the luxury of being able to fly to and from Nice. A bit of planning and a week or so later, I decided to continue adding to my BA Executive Club miles balance by selecting the evening Heathrow flight to Nice (NCE), and returning to London two days later on the BA Cityflyer service into London City Airport (LCY). The outbound flight was operated by an A320 and was standard BA so this report only focuses on the return trip back to LCY aboard the EM190.

Apart from Dash 8s, I have been a huge fan of the little E-jet from Brazil:

Dawn Of A New Era: First Flight BA EM170 LCY - EDI (by Palmjet Oct 11 2009 in Trip Reports)

Australian E-Jets: To Canberra With DJ (pics) (by Palmjet Dec 4 2009 in Trip Reports)

Finnair Longhaul Cont. Part II HKG-HEL-ARN (by Palmjet Sep 26 2010 in Trip Reports)

The chance to fly back to London in an EM190 into my local airport rather than an ubiquitous A319/320 into Heathrow was really a no brainer.

This trip report also contrasts considerably with my recent A.net forum ramblings on board a Cathay A330 out of Brisbane to Hong Kong.

NICE, COTE D’AZUR

What can I say about Nice? Sizzling! I really enjoyed it - from the amazingly clear blue waters, to the palm tree lined streets, to the glorious sunshine. I now wish I had spent longer there as I felt I only really got a small snippet of what Nice is like. We managed to do quite a bit of wandering and my friend’s apartment there is very centrally located. Lucky guy.

Nice port



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Hotel Suisse



A very blue sea - the Victorians were certainly onto something here.



The Promenade des Anglais



Typical Nice vista



RETURNING HOME

31 July 2011

British Airways Cityflyer
BA8476
Nice (NCE)- London City (LCY)
EM190: G-LCYM (delivered May 2010)
Flying time: 1:45
Seat: 4A (Club Europe)

I had plenty of time to get to the Aeroport Nice Cote D’Azur on Sunday afternoon, as I bid farewell to my mates who were flying back to the UK with Easyjet on a flight which was due to depart 2 hours before mine. On arrival two days before, it was obvious that NCE is a busy airport, particularly for biz jets and executive aircraft, which is not surprising given the airport’s close location to both Monaco and Cannes. It’s one of the busiest in France and has two terminals. British Airways operate out of the older Terminal 1. The two terminals are not joined, but are linked by a free shuttle bus which takes only a few minutes.

Sadly I had arrived a little too early and upon presenting my documentation at the check in counter, was told that the flight was not yet open and I would have to come back in 45 minutes. I thought this was a bit weird as I have arrived for flights well in advance at other airports when flying J before and have never had a problem checking in my bag. Feeling slightly miffed at having to hang around landside (there were no views of anything landside), I found one of the few seats that weren’t taken to read my book. Having said that, the check in agent was polite and friendly about it, so I just had to wait.

It also gave me a chance to take a look around at my surroundings. Terminal 1 is home to a number of airlines although I was never quite able to work out the rationale for why airlines were located in either Terminal 1 or 2. Both were able to handle international, Schengen and non Schengen flights. More airlines operate out of Terminal 1, with Air France and its sky team partners operating out of Terminal 2, randomly along with the likes of Easyjet, MEA, Royal Air Maroc and Finnair. In addition to British Airways, Terminal 1 hosts quite a large list of airlines, from Aegean to Vueling, from Air Berlin to Qatar Airways and Emirates.

While waiting to get rid of my bag, here’s the landside departures area in Terminal 1, which was actually a hive of activity.



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I found the terminal to be quite dated and perhaps too small for the number of flights and passengers using it. There were a handful of shops and a couple of eateries, but nothing to get too excited about. There was a distinct lack of seating for passengers who may have to wait to check in, but I guess this is common at a lot of airports.

Security was not too stressful and I soon found myself airside. At this point I was seriously hoping for at least a decent view of the action on the ramp, but I was sorely disappointed. The airside area was small, very busy with no views to be had anywhere. The terminal design included an arriving corridor which was on the same level as departures, which basically blocked any forward/outward views of the ramp or the gates. I was bitterly disappointed. Ugh.

Airside was similar to landside – a few shops and places to buy bits and pieces but nothing remarkable, in my view. I decided to head for the only lounge as I was flying in J, I had an invitation to go there. Giving up trying to see anything moving outside, I headed through passport control and upstairs to the Club Riviera lounge. The lounge, not surprisingly, was very busy, as it is not aligned to any airline. I was welcomed in after joining a short queue – never had to do that before, and managed to find one of the few remaining seats nearby. The food selection was average, but met with my expectations for this type of operation. The lounge revealed some limited views, through several layers of glass, toward part of the runway and T2. I was able to see my EM190 land from a distance, which is always a good sign (and brings about feeling of minor relief when the inbound aircraft arrives!).

I stayed there for much of the remaining time, reading and people watching, and headed downstairs to the gate a few minutes before boarding was to commence.

Our aircraft was parked on a remote stand, so it was downstairs to get to the gate, and then board the bus. Boarding was called and people just meandered over and onto the bus. We were there for some time as they attempted to pack as many people as possible before setting off. It looked like it would be a busy flight today although when I had completed OLCI the night before, there were a few J class seats still spare, including the one next to mine. Yay!

Finally we were ready to go and it was getting close to 745pm local time by now, so the soft light of the evening started to encroach over the ramp, giving everything a nice glow.

A couple of Austrian visitors at their respective gates



The ramp was quite full, although most of the aircraft parked around on the remote gates (biz flights) were static. The number of biz jets was impressive.

Another OE-registered Airbus but this one’s a private jet



You know you’ve made it when you also have one of these to play with



Part of the remote line-up on the way to our aircraft. Air Nostrum and Portugalia sharing space with some private cousins.



A couple of aircraft were connected to jetbridges, while some regional flights were present. Here’s the Air Nostrum CRJ200 which had recently arrived with Terminal 1 in the background. In this pic, you can see why spotting airside was so problematic. A long glass covered walkway that extends the entire length of the terminal. Ugh.



The spotting part of the weekend wasn’t a complete write off, as I soon spotted a Saudi Arabian MD90. A very rare beast in northern Europe and certainly for a London based spotter. Yummy! Here’s HZ-APF resting on the ramp - delivered to SV in 1998.



The bus doors were opened and everyone piled out and rapidly climbed the steps. Boarding was only via the front entry door on this flight. I still had time for a couple of snaps, without raising the concerns of any neighbouring passengers, but I did manage to get a couple of looks from others, who were probably thinking, “What’s that idiot doing taking pictures of the plane?” The things we do for A.net!



At the top of the steps, there was a bit of congestion, so time for another angle. The EM190 looks so sexy. I love it.



Yep, operated by BA Cityflyer



We were all greeted at the door by a friendly female flight attendant, with a soft Scottish accent.
Sliding into 4A, this was my view.



While waiting for the second bus to bring the last remaing stragglers to the flight, this little ATR42 taxied by. I first thought it looked like a close cousin of the Old Lady which I flew recently down to LCY from the Isle of Man. Operating for Avanti Air, this aircraft was actually older than the ATR which I flew, being delivered in 1989 to German carrier RFG.



The passenger load on this flight came to a total of 81 and soon, the front door was closed. A nice welcome from the cockpit crew with some flight information, and then the manual safety demonstration was made.

Before setting off from the stand and after the doors had closed, two passengers suddenly appeared in the business class cabin in row 5, escorted by one of the cabin crew. I don’t know why they were upgraded.

Seating in J on the EM190s is the same as for Y: 2x2 although there is slightly more legroom in J. I’ve always found the EM170/190s to be very comfortable whether in Y or J.

This evening we would take off from Runway 04L and on the way out, there were some nice views of the ramp and surrounds.

Heading out



Nice in the background, with a departing AZ A320 just getting airborne



Looking back toward Terminal 2, with a few of the locals at their gates



Just getting ourselves lined up on 04L



A nice powerful takeoff then followed, and we were soon airborne - passing the terminal on my side of the aircraft, and then another line of biz jets down below



The light was well and truly fading by this time, and down below was bathed in a very soft glow.



Goodbye Nice - hope to see you again sometime



Looking back one more time



Still climbing, and into the clouds



Shortly after, a hot towel was presented to the J class passengers, and the cabin divider curtain was pulled across.

It was a very pleasant evening for flying this evening



First part of the onboard service in J consisted of drinks and savoury snacks. I opted for some white wine and water.



Not long after, the main meal was served. No menus are used on Cityflyer services (or Club Europe on mainline BA either for that matter), so it was just pot luck what would be served this evening. Dinner consisted of duck salad, warmed breads, and mini cakes, along with tea and coffee (and more booze if you wanted it). I have to say, quite brave of Cityflyer to opt for duck - there was no other choice, and if you weren’t a fan of duck, then it was too bad! Unfortunately for me, I am not a fan of Donald, so the meal was not really to my liking.

Sorry for the blurred shot (probably still in shock at the duck on my plate!)



Thankfully a nice cup of tea to round off the service. The Victorians certainly loved their tea, although they could hardly have imagined it being served in the comfort of an EM190 at 33000ft! I like the artwork on these cups - this one showed the Liverpool waterfront. Cabin crew service was friendly and obliging - like on just about every Cityflyer flight I have taken in the past couple of years. The standard of cabin crewing on Cityflyer flights seems to be consistently very good..



The sun was slowly going down as we powered over central France



Window view. The EM190s certainly have distinctly shaped, and huge windows. Great design from a passenger’s perspective



The cabin was in immaculate condition - still looking and feeling brand new even though it was over 12 months old.



The flight passed uneventfully and was very smooth. Just after we headed out over the English Channel, we began our descent. The pilot gave us some useful arrival information - which meant we would be arriving into LCY from the West. This meant dropping in down over central London and then floating past Canary Wharf before arriving into LCY. This is one of my favourite approaches into any of the London airports, and would mirror that of my ATR42 flight with Aer Arann only a few weeks prior.

The sun setting over southern England as we reach UK airspace



Making a few turns with the low sun lighting up our port engine



Some green fields down below as we get closer



Finally the Thames came into view and the old Battersea power station again. I had feelings of deja vu - having had the same view in the ATR42!



Chelsea and Battersea (with Battersea park in the centre)



By now it was almost 9pm, but there was still just enough light left to get a view of Hyde Park and Buckingham Palace. The Victorians would never have been able to imagine what London looked like from this height.



We were now lined up for our approach into London City and passengers eyes were glued to the windows as we passed over a densely populated East London. I love flying into London - and never tire of the views.



Our landing was smooth and we came to an abrupt LCY-style stop, before backtracking on the runway and heading back to the terminal. Here’s just as we were turning to backtrack.



Heading for our parking spot, if you’re lucky, you will pass a number of other aircraft on the ramp. This evening we passed another gorgeous sister aircraft - G-LCYJ and parked next door to a Cityjet AVRO - doing our almost complete turn to ensure our backside was facing the terminal building.



Cityjet AVRO getting prepared for its next flight



Our engines spooled down but the ground crew did not seem to know we were coming, so we waited, and waited a bit more and finally the captain came on the blower again and apologised for the delay, and explained that the ground staff seemed to have been caught unaware of our arrival. I find this incredibly hard to understand - the airport was not busy at this time: where were they? The Victorians would never have put up with such slap dash service  

Finally, there was activity around our aircraft and the stairs were rolled up to the front door. Passengers were then free to disembark. A thank you from the cabin crew, and I was down on the ramp. One last pic of our chariot before heading inside - it had been a very “nice” way to get home.



Immigration was thankfully quick at this time of day, and my checked in bag was out in no time. Another hassle free arrival into LCY. I was home in 25 minutes from touching down. Not bad at all.

Thanks for reading - any comments are of course welcome.

Other trip reports:

Cathay "Reunion": BNE-CNS-HKG In J (by Palmjet Aug 6 2011 in Trip Reports)

Flying An Old Lady: Aer Arann To London City (by Palmjet Jul 2 2011 in Trip Reports)

Arctic "Dash" With Wideroe: 2 Days, 7 Stops (pics (by Palmjet Jun 22 2011 in Trip Reports)

"888": 8hrs, 8 Segments On An Aussie Dash 8 (pics) (by Palmjet Apr 3 2011 in Trip Reports)

Snow-2-Sun: BA J To Tampa And Beyond (pics) (by Palmjet Dec 22 2010 in Trip Reports)

Keep Climbing & Don't Stop - 48hr DL Marathon (by Palmjet Dec 15 2010 in Trip Reports)

The Return: KL E190 TLS-AMS (w/pics) (by Palmjet Nov 28 2010 in Trip Reports)

Almost AF ATR72: Skyteam Skip LHR-TLS (w/pics) (by Palmjet Nov 6 2010 in Trip Reports)

Iceland Yes, Volcano No, FI451 LHR-KEF (pics) (by Palmjet Oct 9 2010 in Trip Reports)

Finnair Longhaul Cont. Part II HKG-HEL-ARN (by Palmjet Sep 26 2010 in Trip Reports)

Finnair Longhaul To HK (w/pics) (by Palmjet Sep 25 2010 in Trip Reports)

Baby 737 To Dresden And Back - W/pics (by Palmjet Sep 4 2010 in Trip Reports)

Woeful IB, Wonderful Binter - The Canaries W/pics (by Palmjet Aug 31 2010 in Trip Reports)


Eastern - Number One To The Sun
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User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12775 times:

Nice TR! I might have to give the BA E-jets ago in/out of LCY sometime (I've not yet flown on an E-Jet, only the ERJ145). I'm still looking at various routes from MAN-London for a quick daytrip, so this might be the one (I think BA have a MAN-LCY flight :S ).

Always great to read your reports!


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12654 times:

Hi!

Nicely written tripreport, I enjoyed reading it. Thanks for posting!

Nice sure looks like a nice place to visit, I should go there sometime.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
You know you’ve made it when you also have one of these to play with

The building behind the aircrafts on that picture, what is it? A terminal? Whatever it is it looks really cool!

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
The spotting part of the weekend wasn’t a complete write off, as I soon spotted a Saudi Arabian MD90. A very rare beast in northern Europe and certainly for a London based spotter. Yummy! Here’s HZ-APF resting on the ramp - delivered to SV in 1998.

Beautiful!

Martin


User currently offline767er From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12598 times:

Another one of your gems James. Photos were of the usual excellant standard.


Aircraft flown:F27,Viscount. EMB120, SAAB340, ATR70, 737-200.737-300,DC8, DC10,747-100,747-200,747-300,747-400, A320, A3
User currently offlinebcworld From Australia, joined May 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12478 times:

Nice report!

I'm also a fan of LCY and the BA E-jets.

I've just returned from the UK and took the Cityjet service down from DND - LCY. I was staying with my friends in West London and clearly LHR would be the obvious choice and they were a bit scathing of my choice of LCY! But, within about 5 mins of landing I was on the DLR into the city with my checked bag...try doing that at LHR! I made it over to Acton in just under an hour...DLR, tube & bus...I dare say LHR wouldn't have been any better...plus the departure airport of DND was superconvenient for me...hopefelly the DND - LCY service survives as it seems to be always hanging by a thread.

Later in the trip I took the BA E-190 from BCN - LCY in Y (also with a softly spoken Scottish purser!). Fantastic aircraft...legroom plus even in Y!

Agree with you, duck is not the wisest choice, generally only a fan of it chinese style in a pancake with plum sauce!!


User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3271 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12298 times:

Looks like a beautiful evening for flying!

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
I was able to see my EM190 land from a distance, which is always a good sign (and brings about feeling of minor relief when the inbound aircraft arrives!

Well, if you had been in SAN on 8 Sept, and seen the inbound flight, and thought that you'd soon be on your way, you'd have been wrong - it stayed in SAN for around 21 hours!

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
The spotting part of the weekend wasn’t a complete write off, as I soon spotted a Saudi Arabian MD90. A very rare beast in northern Europe and certainly for a London based spotter. Yummy! Here’s HZ-APF resting on the ramp - delivered to SV in 1998.

Is that a scheduled service?

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
First part of the onboard service in J consisted of drinks and savoury snacks. I opted for some white wine and water.

Is your wine glass full of ice?

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
I have to say, quite brave of Cityflyer to opt for duck - there was no other choice,

Doesn't CE offer a choice of meals anymore?

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
Our engines spooled down but the ground crew did not seem to know we were coming, so we waited, and waited a bit more and finally the captain came on the blower again and apologised for the delay, and explained that the ground staff seemed to have been caught unaware of our arrival. I find this incredibly hard to understand - the airport was not busy at this time: where were they? The Victorians would never have put up with such slap dash service

Never ceases to amaze me how often this happens, on many airlines around the world. You'd have thought we'd just dropped out of the sky! Seriously though, very annoying to get that as a excuse for delayed disembarkation.



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User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11994 times:

Hi planejamie

Thanks for your comments.

Quote:
I'm still looking at various routes from MAN-London for a quick daytrip, so this might be the one (I think BA have a MAN-LCY flight :S ).

Always great to read your reports!

Great stuff. Hope you get something organised. Unfortunately there are no MAN-LCY flights anymore. VLM used to operate F50 flights a few years back (and they were great for getting up to MAN quickly). Sadly these days, there's no more flights to MAN from LCY. The BA EMBs are lovely - hope you can find a nice set of flights to take on Cityflyer.

Deltamartin

Quote:
The building behind the aircrafts on that picture, what is it? A terminal? Whatever it is it looks really cool!

Thank you too for your comments. Hope you are well? The building behind is actually T2 - the newer of the terminals which has a strange assortment of legacy and LCC using it. It's also the terminal Air France use.

Brent

Quote:
Another one of your gems James. Photos were of the usual excellant standard.

Glad you enjoyed it! I have another EM190 trip report in the making as well. Have you tried any of the DJ machines? Better get in fast with the E170s as they are all going soon?

Hi bcworld

Thanks for your comments. Nice to meet another LCY fan too!

Quote:
I've just returned from the UK and took the Cityjet service down from DND - LCY. I was staying with my friends in West London and clearly LHR would be the obvious choice and they were a bit scathing of my choice of LCY! But, within about 5 mins of landing I was on the DLR into the city with my checked bag...try doing that at LHR! I made it over to Acton in just under an hour...DLR, tube & bus...I dare say LHR wouldn't have been any better...plus the departure airport of DND was superconvenient for me...hopefelly the DND - LCY service survives as it seems to be always hanging by a thread.

Later in the trip I took the BA E-190 from BCN - LCY in Y (also with a softly spoken Scottish purser!). Fantastic aircraft...legroom plus even in Y!

Agree with you, duck is not the wisest choice, generally only a fan of it chinese style in a pancake with plum sauce!!

LCY historically was so much more convenient than other London airport. I think recently it's become a victim of its own success. You can hit some really bad congestion in the terminal and during peak times, it clearly strains to be able to process all the passengers. However sometimes you can still be very lucky and get through quickly if you need to. Glad you enjoyed flying the E190 to BCN. I wonder if we had the same flight attendant on both flights?



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 days ago) and read 11979 times:

Hi Gab

Quote:
Well, if you had been in SAN on 8 Sept, and seen the inbound flight, and thought that you'd soon be on your way, you'd have been wrong - it stayed in SAN for around 21 hours!

That's too bad - and quite unusual. I always get worried when there is no sign of the inbound aircraft - at least if it's on the ground there's a good chance you'll be going somewhere. 21 hours - that's a pretty big delay! I assuming your aircraft went tech big time? What did (BA?) do about the delay? Did they look after you?

Quote:
Is that a scheduled service?

I have seen numerous pics of SV M90s at NCE so if its not a regular scheduled service, it must be a fairly frequent flight I wasn't sure whether it is passenger operated (or whether it's primarily used to shuttle various entourages of the various royal parties to NCE). Was great to see it there - pretty rare to see a Saudi M90 anywhere in Europe.

Quote:
Is your wine glass full of ice?

Ah yes! A little antipodean trick. The wine was not as chilled as I would have liked it, so I leave the ice in the wine glass to cool it down, then remove the ice and pour in the wine - viola! Some people are known to leave one ice cube in the wine -again, a very antipodean thing, particularly during hot summer afternoon alfresco BBQs!

Quote:
Doesn't CE offer a choice of meals anymore?

I have flown in CE several times this year both mainline and Cityflyer and have not been offered a choice of main course on either.

Thanks for your comments!



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11821 times:

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 6):
Great stuff. Hope you get something organised. Unfortunately there are no MAN-LCY flights anymore. VLM used to operate F50 flights a few years back (and they were great for getting up to MAN quickly). Sadly these days, there's no more flights to MAN from LCY. The BA EMBs are lovely - hope you can find a nice set of flights to take on Cityflyer.

Ah well, I might do something like MAN-LHR then LCY-EDI then Flybe on EDI-MAN. That way, I should get a Dash8 & an E-Jet or 2 E-Jets. Thanks for your help!


User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11816 times:

Palmjet,

Yet another solidly written and interesting report from you... excellent.

BA Cityer is verz consistent in their service. I am really impressed, and will try and fly them at one point.

The duck didnt look too shabby, but they ought to have an alternative really. And warm wine? Suppose BA is a G and T airline!

thanks

Luke



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 870 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11681 times:

Nice TR.

I do the LCY-NCE run every so often. I much prefer it to flying from LHR.
The filght experience on Cityflyer is just more pleasant. Bigger seats and more attentive service plus the benefit of flying to LCY


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11348 times:

planejamie

Quote:
Ah well, I might do something like MAN-LHR then LCY-EDI then Flybe on EDI-MAN. That way, I should get a Dash8 & an E-Jet or 2 E-Jets. Thanks for your help!

Sounds like a great plan - hope you can post a report!

Hi Lukeyboy - thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed the report.

Quote:
BA Cityer is verz consistent in their service. I am really impressed, and will try and fly them at one point.

The duck didnt look too shabby, but they ought to have an alternative really. And warm wine? Suppose BA is a G and T airline!

Yes, I've found them to be consistently good over the past 2 years or so. With the E-jet fleet, they are now my first preference for short haul flying from London.

Ha! The wine was cool - just not chilled enough for my liking. I should have ordered a G&T for sure!


HiJazzey

Quote:
Nice TR.

I do the LCY-NCE run every so often. I much prefer it to flying from LHR.
The filght experience on Cityflyer is just more pleasant. Bigger seats and more attentive service plus the benefit of flying to LCY

Thanks for your comments! Yes, Compared to the outbound flight, the inbound was far nicer! I really love the E-jet for comfort. LCY is only 20 mins drive from my home, so it's certainly super convenient for me too. Cheers



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11181 times:

Hi, PJ,

great pictures and a well written story, good job.
The Cote is also on schedule next month, flying into NCE, an A.net meet, if nothing goes wrong and flying out of TLN
the next morning.
It´s truly a special biz jet place, lots of interesting stuff there.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):

Apart from Dash 8s, I have been a huge fan of the little E-jet from Brazil:

Count me in, you know.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Capital travel on schedule!.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11113 times:

Hi Palmjet!

Very nice report from Nice, my favorite city in France! I haven't been for a few years now but used to go every year for a while about ten years ago. I love the landscape with the mountains close to the sea.

Nice flight on CJ as well. Looks very nice food including the duck. Good to know that there's a flight NCE-LCY.

Thanks for posting!

The777Man



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6808 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11025 times:

Hi Palmjet,

great report with excellent shots, well done! Nice is definitely an interesting place to go.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
You know you’ve made it when you also have one of these to play with

No thanks, I'd prefer a seat on a real plane any day.  

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
The spotting part of the weekend wasn’t a complete write off, as I soon spotted a Saudi Arabian MD90. A very rare beast in northern Europe and certainly for a London based spotter. Yummy! Here’s HZ-APF resting on the ramp - delivered to SV in 1998.

Nice, those will be gone soon, unfortunately.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
I still had time for a couple of snaps, without raising the concerns of any neighbouring passengers, but I did manage to get a couple of looks from others, who were probably thinking, “What’s that idiot doing taking pictures of the plane?” The things we do for A.net!

I know these kinds of looks - and I have learned to ignore those people.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
Not long after, the main meal was served. No menus are used on Cityflyer services (or Club Europe on mainline BA either for that matter), so it was just pot luck what would be served this evening. Dinner consisted of duck salad, warmed breads, and mini cakes, along with tea and coffee (and more booze if you wanted it). I have to say, quite brave of Cityflyer to opt for duck - there was no other choice, and if you weren’t a fan of duck, then it was too bad! Unfortunately for me, I am not a fan of Donald, so the meal was not really to my liking.

That meal looks quite good, I wouldn't mind about getting duck!


PH



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1721 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10968 times:
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Hello P/J,

Thanks for posting this interesting report on your BA Cityflyer experience. I've never been to Nice, neither do I have friends owing a perfectly located apartment in this city for the 'rich and famous'. You could've arrived even in more style there - not on a 'BA320' but on a luxury yacht. But then the report would've been posted in 'boats.net' or something and we would miss out on it. Okay, enough blah, blah, on with some comments  

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particularly if you experience a leisurely stroll at sunset down the Promenade des Anglais: “Walkway of the English.”

I like the duality in that  

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Apart from Dash 8s

   I was fearing not to find any reference to your beloved plane type here...

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s told that the flight was not yet open and I would have to come back in 45 minutes.

So you did OLCI but were waiting for the 'bag drop' to open?

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I was welcomed in after joining a short queue

You queued for a lounge   

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You know you’ve made it when you also have one of these to play with

What a sleek looking plane, could be the little brother of Abramovich's 767 as it resembles some in color scheme.

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as I soon spotted a Saudi Arabian MD90

Great spot!

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and then another line of biz jets down below

Impressive.

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probably still in shock at the duck on my plate!

Kwek kwek  

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
having had the same view in the ATR42!

But now you experienced it in a more modern plane. London always looks pretty amazing from above and in clear weather.

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User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3271 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10916 times:

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 7):
That's too bad - and quite unusual. I always get worried when there is no sign of the inbound aircraft - at least if it's on the ground there's a good chance you'll be going somewhere. 21 hours - that's a pretty big delay! I assuming your aircraft went tech big time? What did (BA?) do about the delay? Did they look after you?

Luckily, I was on the inbound. There was a citywide blackout, so the plane couldn't leave that evening (not BAs fault) as the airport was closed (no electricity in the terminal). Not sure why it spent all day in SAN before leaving at around 5pm, when it could have left a good 5 hours earlier to arrive bright and early into LHR.

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Doesn't CE offer a choice of meals anymore?

I have flown in CE several times this year both mainline and Cityflyer and have not been offered a choice of main course on either.

Well, that's not very good. Big thumbs down to BA for that. I flew LHR-MAD-LHR last summer, and had a choice both ways.



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User currently offlinezhiao From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10786 times:
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Awesome!

Is this the same food offered on normal BA w/i Europe?


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10587 times:

Bonjour Markus

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The Cote is also on schedule next month, flying into NCE, an A.net meet, if nothing goes wrong and flying out of TLN the next morning. It´s truly a special biz jet place, lots of interesting stuff there.

Excellent! Hope you have a great trip - I know you've been to NCE before (and have done a trip report), but hope that you are able to complete another one of your upcoming trip there? Yes plenty of biz if that's your thing. It was amazing just how many were on the ground!

PS Glad you are also a fan of the E-jets!

Hi The777Man

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Very nice report from Nice, my favorite city in France! I haven't been for a few years now but used to go every year for a while about ten years ago. I love the landscape with the mountains close to the sea.

Nice flight on CJ as well. Looks very nice food including the duck. Good to know that there's a flight NCE-LCY.

Thanks for your comments. The landscape is very pretty that's for sure. The food was OK but I find duck to be very fatty - although others on here seem to be a fan of duck too. Perhaps I am in the minority?! The NCE-LCY flight was very busy, and I think the flights are doing relatively well for Cityflyer. Cheers

Good morning PH

[quoteNo thanks, I'd prefer a seat on a real plane any day.[/quote]

Ha! Well I've not yet had the experience of a bizjet to compare with but I am sure it would be fun? Still, I'd probably side with you and opt for something a little larger and in airline colours!

Yes, the SV M90s are not long with Saudia. I am glad I got to see one before they go. I think they look great in those colours. Do you know whether that's a regular flight? That must be pushing the M90s range almost to the max?

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I know these kinds of looks - and I have learned to ignore those people.

Yes, I am well accustomed to them now too, and most times, it does not bother me at all.

Glad you liked the duck - but it's all yours. It was very fatty and tough to get through. I prefer duck a la Peking/Beijing/Pekin style !!!  



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User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10580 times:

Good morning Sultanils!

Quote:
Thanks for posting this interesting report on your BA Cityflyer experience. I've never been to Nice, neither do I have friends owing a perfectly located apartment in this city for the 'rich and famous'. You could've arrived even in more style there - not on a 'BA320' but on a luxury yacht. But then the report would've been posted in 'boats.net' or something and we would miss out on it. Okay, enough blah, blah, on with some comments

Thanks for your comments. My friends are very lucky - they bought the apartment with two others back in 2006 and pretty much share it during the year. I wish I could afford to do that too! Although it would have befitted Nice's glitzy image to have arrived on a boat, sadly it was just a plain jane BA 320. At least the return flight was a little more special.

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So you did OLCI but were waiting for the 'bag drop' to open?

Yes, I had to check in my bag as I realised I had a few liquids that were over the allowed limit for hand luggage, so I had to wait for bag drop. Grrr

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You queued for a lounge

Being the only airside lounge in that part of the terminal for all airlines and not just BA, there were a lot of people in front of me. Weird - as I've never had to wait before!!

Quote:
But now you experienced it in a more modern plane. London always looks pretty amazing from above and in clear weather

London sprawls so much - it's only really from the air that you can appreciate it. It's also very pretty a night with all the lights!

Hi zhiao

Quote:
Is this the same food offered on normal BA w/i Europe?

Thanks for your comments. Pretty similar yes in BA J in Club Europe.

Hi Gab

Quote:
Well, that's not very good. Big thumbs down to BA for that. I flew LHR-MAD-LHR last summer, and had a choice both ways.

I re-read your report when you flew to Cuba via MAD, and the way I read it, the meal you were served in CE implied that there was only one choice in that instance too?? Cheers



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User currently offlineRussianGirl From Russia, joined Jan 2011, 107 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 days ago) and read 10547 times:

Hi Palmjet!
Very nice and interesting TR with brilliant shots!
It was very interesting to read about NCE Terminal 1, I had seen only Terminal 2 when I had a trip from Nice

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The EM190 looks so sexy. I love it.

Yes! I have never flown on EM190 but it looks so nice! Hope to fly on it someday  
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“What’s that idiot doing taking pictures of the plane?” The things we do for A.net!

It's familiar to me but sometimes I find it very funny  

Thanks,
Anastasia


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10219 times:
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Hi PJ,

Nice report, I must admit I wish I had more excuses to fly from LCY, these 170/190's have excellent legroom in BA's config.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
HZ-APF resting on the ramp - delivered to SV in 1998.

- I think this is laid out in a VIP config, it's been to LHR a number of times, seemingly the only one to do so.

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
Dinner consisted of duck salad, warmed breads, and mini cakes, along with tea and coffee (and more booze if you wanted it). I have to say, quite brave of Cityflyer to opt for duck - there was no other choice, and if you weren’t a fan of duck, then it was too bad! Unfortunately for me, I am not a fan of Donald, so the meal was not really to my liking.

- Nice! I think BA @ LCY like duck, the JFK service often has an excellent duck starter on the first leg from LCY.

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinesfflyer123 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10148 times:

An excellent TR! I like your mix of text & photos; it's just the right amount. Very enjoyable read!

User currently offlineEuroWings From UK - England, joined Sep 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10143 times:

Fantastic report, and BA Cityflyer is indeed such a nice way to reach London!

The Embraer 170s/190s are very classy aircraft, especially with the BA livery.

I've noticed that certain 'sunshine summer charters' get treated to BA cityflyer now, they have been operating to a few sunspots from GLA and STN in particular on behalf of tour operators, instead of the more usual charter carriers.


User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10119 times:

Hi RussianGirl

Thanks very much for your comments.

Quote:
Very nice and interesting TR with brilliant shots!
It was very interesting to read about NCE Terminal 1, I had seen only Terminal 2 when I had a trip from Nice

Did you enjoy Nice? I had a look in T2 as well - and although it's newer (I think), I found both terminals to feel very dated. Not sure why.

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It's familiar to me but sometimes I find it very funny

Ha! Yes, I know the feeling ! Thanks again

Hi Mark

Good to hear from you. Hope you are well - when are you going to do your TAP 330 J class trip report? I've been waiting for ages!!!

Quote:
Nice report, I must admit I wish I had more excuses to fly from LCY, these 170/190's have excellent legroom in BA's config.

Yes, totally agree - legroom was very spacious. Even in Y, I find the EMBs very comfy (and I am 6ft tall)!

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think this is laid out in a VIP config, it's been to LHR a number of times, seemingly the only one to do so.

Ah yes, I remember reading about a VIP config M90. It would make sense for sure.

Quote:
Nice! I think BA @ LCY like duck, the JFK service often has an excellent duck starter on the first leg from LCY.

Perhaps there is a local duck farm near LCY?  

sfflyer123

Hi there - thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed the report. I have another shorthaul MAD-LCY flight on BA which I am working on at the moment. Trying to get it finished soon!

EuroWings - hi there.

Quote:
Fantastic report, and BA Cityflyer is indeed such a nice way to reach London!

The Embraer 170s/190s are very classy aircraft, especially with the BA livery.

I've noticed that certain 'sunshine summer charters' get treated to BA cityflyer now, they have been operating to a few sunspots from GLA and STN in particular on behalf of tour operators, instead of the more usual charter carriers.

Thanks for your comments. Yes, I've seen a couple of the EMB170s up in MAN doing those charters over the summer. Nice to see them visiting other airports in the UK as well, even though they do already visit GLA and EDI regularly!



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25 RussianGirl : Yes, very much! It's a pity I was there so little time Agree with you, NCE didn't make any impressions on me, simply good airport, but no more Cheers
26 Post contains images Khaleej777 : Hi Palmjet, Thanks for posting a great trip report. You're a talented photographer too - I particularly like the photos at LCY of turning at the runwa
27 Palmjet : Hi Anastasia Great stuff! Glad you liked Nice Totally agree - that's how I felt about it too. Cheers Khaleej777 Thanks very much for your comments. Gl
28 Post contains images Departurex : Hi Palmjet, thanks a lot for that excellent report. An interesting route that you shared with us flown by that nice Embraer jet! I often ask me the sa
29 FlyingFinn76 : Hi PJ, Another solid piece of work in the form of a trip report! BA Cityflyer is very nice - I did LCY-MAD with the E190 in January (although in econo
30 JL418 : Hi Palmjet! what a Nice (Gosh I did it!Sorry!) TR from yours! I liked your brief photoshoot of Nice as I'm one adept of those trip reports that manage
31 Ps76 : Hi! Many thanks for the trip report. I have spent quite a lot of time in the South of France and also in Nice airport. I must say I prefer Terminal 2
32 Palmjet : Hi Departurex Thanks very much for your comments. Yes! I am now totally used to the strange looks I get. I've had some very interesting conversations
33 Palmjet : Hi Fabrizio Thanks for your comments. Hope you are well? Glad you enjoyed the photoshoot of Nice and the report. I did see the cableless tram - it all
34 makeree : Hi Palmjet ! Enjoyed your TR and especially the pics ! It is always great to see London from the air and wonder how big the city actually is. In octob
35 JL418 : You're welcome! Great to hear that, I guess it'd be perfect to ensure comfort on long-ish routes. I've browsed some websites and it seems that the fi
36 MSS658 : Hi Nice trip report you have got there. Am amazed you got a real meal in J on a short hop as NCE-LCY. Love the scenery pics as well Greetings Marc
37 Post contains images Palmjet : Hi Markku Thanks for your comments and glad you enjoyed the report. London is very sprawled from the air - it looks especially nice at night with all
38 Post contains images akhmad : Hi Palmjet, This particular experience of yours with BA brought a smile to my face. Not only because of your magnificent story, but also some familiar
39 Palmjet : Good afternoon Suryo Thanks very much for your detailed feedback! I hope you are well. A pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it. I tried to link my trip with s
40 Post contains images OA260 : Great report and Id love to get on the BA E Jet sometime. Certainly a different meal . I like Duck but mostly the Peking crispy duck in pancakes not l
41 AlwaysOnAPlane : Hey PJ. Very nice to read the write up. Indeed that is one great looking aircraft, really suits the BA livery. I am somewhat confused with the meal ch
42 Palmjet : Hi Philip Glad you enjoyed the report! Thanks for your comments. Ha! Yes at least it was not octopus, although ironically, I would have preferred that
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