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User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8994 times:

Around Mexico with Aereo Calafia Cessna & Viva Aerobus B733

Hi!

Good to see you’ll still following my trip!

Welcome to the third in a series of reports covering my September travels to France, the USA and Mexico.

A map of my whole itinerary:
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This reports’ flights:
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Part 1 covers my easyJet flight from Luton to Paris, then my BA flights from Paris to San Diego via LHR in World Traveller Plus
Part 2 covers a sightseeing tour of San Diego Airport, as well as my American Airlines flights from San Diego, to LA to Dallas, and then finally to San Jose Cabo, at the bottom of the Baja California peninsula

When I booked my international flights, I didn’t really have much of a clue as to what to see and do in Mexico. For watching too many US soaps, I thought that starting in Cabo would be an interesting idea. A few photos from Cabo.

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For Mark!


From Cabo (which I really liked), I took a bus up the peninsula to the town of La Paz. I managed to time my visit to La Paz to coincide with the 201st Mexican Independence day celebrations.

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During my one full day in town, I joined a tour to go to the nearby island reserve of Espiritu Sanctu, where I went snorkelling with sea lions and whale sharks – awesome day out!

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Originally, I had planned to taking the overnight ferry across the Sea of Cortez to Mazatlan. However, the schedules (only twice a week) weren’t good. After a bit of research, I found a small little airline called Aereo Calafia. They operate a fleet of Cessna Caravan 208Bs, one 206, and an Embraer 120 Brasilia. For once, this was a fleet where I’d be happy to fly any aircraft, as they were all unknown to me. I was unable to find out which aircraft would be on my route, but I guessed it’s be the 208B. The fare was quite reasonable, about 20% more than the ferry.

I caught a taxi from my hotel to La Paz Airport which didn’t take long.

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An aircraft outside a military centre

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An abandoned fleet – think it was Aero California or something?

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There wasn’t much happening in the terminal when I arrived. You have to go through a security inspection before arriving at the check in desks. Just as upon arrival in Cabo, there was a button you had to press to see if you needed extra security. Strange for a domestic. Luckily I got a green light. I was a bit worried for a moment that I was in the wrong place, as there was no sign of my flight on the FIDS. However, I saw an Aereo Calafia desk out of the corner of my eye with no queue. The luggage allowance for my flight was only 15kg. my bag weighted 18.1kg, and I was charged to the 100g! Bit mean! I thought it was strange if they noted my checked bag weight to the nearest 100g, that they didn’t care about my hand luggage (which by this stage was probably around 13kg). I had to take one of the identical boarding passes I was issued to the security desk mentioned earlier, where it was stamped, before I could proceed through security. I was the only person here, and it took less than a minute. There wasn’t much happening airside this morning. There was an Alaska flight for LA leaving a couple of hours after us, as well as a Mexico City flight on Aeromexico, but barely any of those passengers were in the terminal yet.

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I was quite excited when a Cessna 208 was towed over to face the terminal from a remote stand. This would be my bird today.

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Before I set out for the airport, I’d done a rather rudimentary loading test on the Aereo Calfia website – there were still 4 seats left for sale, meaning 8 seats sold. Around ten minutes before out SDT we were asked to line up (12 of us, seems like they’d sold the extra 4 seats in the time it took me to get to the airport), before being walked to the plane across the baking hot tarmac.

September 2011
La Paz (Baja California Sur, Mexico) (LAP) – Mazatlan (MZT)
Aereo Calafia 431
Scheduled: 1040-1220 (1h40m)
Actual: 1043-1217 (1h34m)
Cessna Caravan 208B XA-HVB
Economy

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I was near the front of the queue, so was able to get the only single seat in the front row. As you can see, it was a bit of a squeeze getting down the tiny aisle! That lady and her friend actually had quite a few chats with the pilot during the flight (tapping on his shoulder). Not sure if they were old friends, or just very chatty. The pilot didn’t seem to mind at all!

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My view

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Safety card

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No IFE today, but I think this (just about) beats the moving map!

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A neighbour

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We were airborne just a few minutes late. Beautiful day for flying over Baja California!

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My legroom. When the captain put his seat back during cruise, he took away most of it!

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There was a spare cockpit seat….

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Views over the Sea of Cortez

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Nearing the other side of the Sea, and the city of Mazatlan

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Our final approach to MZT

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Welcome to Mazatlan! We taxied slowly across the empty tarmac to terminal. There was just one unnamed blue B732 at the terminal.

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Disembarkation – another squeeze

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Inside the terminal building in MZT

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Before long, my bag appeared on the carousel. As we were the only arrival, there wasn’t much happening in the terminal. There weren’t enough passengers for the cheaper ‘collectivo’ for the city, so I took a cab instead.

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A few photos of Mazatlan – nice little place.

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I had investigated flying down from Mazatlan to Oaxaca, but fares were pretty high on Aeromexico. Instead, I decided to take a ‘luxury’ bus down, via Mexico City.

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Latenight stopover in Guadalajara



I arrived in Mexico City at 4.40am. Next bus left at 7.30am. Not a great situation, but it could have been worse!

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A few scenes from the bus – early morning Mexico City traffic

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Without a doubt, the best thing about getting the bus were the views of Popocatapetl – I had to look up what mountain it was after the journey – lucky I was on the right side of the bus!

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Oaxaca. Lovely city, although MUCH colder and wetter than on the coast. I needed to change my shorts for jeans.

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Still lots of remains of the now default Mexicana
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The nearby Monte Alban, an old Aztec sight

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Views of OAX airport from Monte Alban

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My hostel, the Casa del Sol. Brilliant value. This room for GBP 16 a night!

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Locally made ‘alebrijes’

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Local Oaxaca cuisine

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After my 24 hours on a bus to get to Oaxaca, I made a promise to myself that I’d be flying out, whatever the cost! As soon as I got to the hotel, I logged onto Expedia to check the prices. Aeromexico was really expensive (GBP 130 for a 50 min flight). Hmmm, well, a promise is a promise! At the last minute I remembered a local ‘no frills’ airline operating the route. A quick check on their website revealed their cheapest fares were still available. Hurry! The booking process was a bit annoying. They had low headline prices, but once you started the booking process, more and more fees appeared. These were the ones I was stuck with. The latter two were annoying). Mare in Mexican Pesos, $20 = 1 GBP.

Fare $349
Tax $349
Electronic Payment service $80
Airport check in $110

These ones I managed to get rid of, although it took quite a few attempts!

Cancellation Insurance $35
Medical Insurance $15
SMS confirmation $15

There was a choice of an 8am or 6pm flight. Not wanting to arrive in Mexico City in the dark, I went with the early one. It was an early start, with a prebooked ‘collectivo’ taking me and one other person to Oaxaca Airport.



Another rather unscientific load guessing by myself from the number of fast track boarding passes available, said that there would be around 90 pax on this 148 seat plane. When checking in, I was asked if I had any liquids, like tequila, in my checked bag. I said no before he’d even finished. As it was, I had a bottle of tequila and vodka in my bag – didn’t seem to be an issue – does anyone know if this is a problem in Mexico? I was check in no, 47, rather low I thought given check in would finish in the next 20 mins.

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Terminal

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I got a glimpse of the early morning Volaris flight to Tijiuana. Back in January, I was planning on doing a short Canada/Mexico/USA trip (London – Quebec – Oaxaca – San Francisco), and had originally planned to flying in on CO from Quebec via EWR and IAH, then to leave for SFO via this Tijiuana flight. Didn’t work out in the end though.

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Security didn’t take long, and before I knew it, I was in the tiny departures area.

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FIDS

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http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LHR-JMK,JTR-LHR-WAW,MSQ-FRA-EZE,IGR-EZE-CUN,MEX-FRA-LCY,LHR-TXL-LHR
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User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8985 times:

FIDS

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The Volaris flight pushed back late, then spent a while sitting there doing nothing.

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Our gate now that Volaris had gone

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I counted 91 pax disembarking from our plain white Viva Aerobus (fully they fly Boeings not Airbuses!).

September 2011
Oaxaca (OAX) %u2013 Mexico City (MEX)
Viva Aerobus VB 3411
Scheduled: 0740-0845 (1h05m)
Actual: 0748-0837 (0h49m)
Boeing B737-300 EI-ERD
Economy



The boarding process I didn%u2019t understand, so I won%u2019t try and explain it, lest to say that it was confusing, and despite apparently being an order, no one paid attention.

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The night stopping UA ERJ for IAH

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The seats were a TIGHT squeeze. Lucky this was only an hour long flight. The flight was fuller than I though, around 80% (complete guess). There was no one in the middle seat thankfully.

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We got some amazing views of Monte Alban from the plane

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And then a few second later, great views of Oaxaca

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We then headed out to the mountains. It%u2019s lovely flying early in the morning sometimes!

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Soon we hit cloud though, so no more views

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Cabin

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From the seat back pocket:

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Hope I don%u2019t get sea sick %u2013 if we do, I%u2019ll know we%u2019re not in the air anymore.

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I decided to order some breakfast. Not the greatest, but not bad value, and tasted ok.

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Not long after I was served, we began our descent into MEX.

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Doesn%u2019t look like a nice day down there

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As many others have witnessed, Mexico City just seems to go on for ever. If you like city-view approaches, MEX is for you!

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Airport finally! Touch down a few minutes early.

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Luckily, the rain stopped just as we arrived

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Flightstats.com was showing a midday OAX-MEX flight, but as far as I could see, Aviasca have also gone bust

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Aeromexico%u2019s home

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HSBC really is everywhere

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Disembarkation

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First impressions of MEX weren%u2019t great. Strange gating areas, and then a walk into a not wonderful arrival area. Still, distances were shorter than LHR or LGW.

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My bag was delivered fairly promptly. I booked a taxi for my hotel (apparently, you shouldn%u2019t hail a taxi on the street in Mexico City, as you%u2019ll probably end up dead, or robbed and beaten)

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Outside. Waiting for my taxi

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Heading to the hotel

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Well, if you%u2019ve managed to make it this far well done! Sorry about all the photos. I know some of you don%u2019t like that I put so many in. Hopefully, the majority like them! I%u2019m currently in Mexico City, flying back to London tomorrow with BA on one of their lovely Boeing B747-400s.

Aereo Calafia was great. It%u2019s not everyday that you get to fly on a Cessna commercially! And practially being in the cockpit was great!

Viva Aerobus %u2013 nice to bring fares down, but other than that, a fairly faceless and mundane no frills airline. Saved me a long bus ride though!

All comments and questions welcome!

Some of my other TRs:

Sightseeing tour of San Diego Airport, and American Airlines San Diego - LA %u2013 Dallas - San Jose Cabo
easyJet Luton to Paris, and BA Paris to San Diego via LHR in World Traveller Plus
British Airways to Scandinavia (LHR-CPH,GOT-LHR)
Where%u2019s my bag? British Airways, Milan to London
What airline am I flying again? Bmi/Lufthansa Italia LHR-MXP
Part 1, Lufthansa London-Munich-Frankfurt-Nanjing, Economy Class A321 and A343
Part 2, Cathay Pacific Shanghai to Tokyo via Hong Kong, Business Class A330 and B747-400
Part 3, ANA Boeing B767 Tokyo to Shanghai, & Air China Airbus A340 Shanghai to Beijing, Business Class
Part 4: Chinese domestics, inc. Joy Air Xi%u2019an MA60, Tianjin Airlines ERJ, and China Express Airways CRJ
Part 5: Lufthansa Beijing-Frankfurt-London City, Economy Class A388 and E90
5 Countries, 5 Flights, 5 Days, with Ryanair (FR)
bmiFriday: Welcome to Sunny Norway, London to Bergen, A319)
Royal Jordanian, London to Aqaba via Amman. A330 and A320
Royal Jordanian, Amman to London, A330
London City to Antwerp with Cityjet and the Fokker 50
Croatian Airlines, LHR-ZAG,PUY-ZAD-ZAG-LHR, A319 and Dash 8
British Airways, Iberia & Binter to Tenerife and Gran Canaria, LHR-MAD-TFN-LPA-MAD-LHR, A320,ATR, A321
British Airways, London To Amsterdam, LGW-AMS-LHR, B737 & A321
British Airways up to a snowy Glasgow, with a change of flights and delay, LHR-GLA-LCY A321 and E90
Turkish Airlines Business Class from London to Istanbul. From Terrible To Fantastic
Turkish Airlines Business Class from Istanbul to Batumi (Georgia). Not again!
bmi Business Class, Tbilisi to London via Azerbaijan
Tallinn to London, with Estonian Air and BA, via ARN
Cuba! BA/IB London-Madrid-Havana, Business Class
Aerocarribean, Baracoa to Havana
Asia Trip, Pt 1: Qatar Airways Business Class (LHR-DOH-ICN)
Asia Trip, Pt 2: China Southern and Hainan Airlines (A321/A346)
Asia Trip, Pt 3: Malaysia Airlines, Hong Kong to Penang
Asia Trip, Pt 4: Qatar Airways Economy (HKG-DOH-LHR)
A weekend in Transylvania with Blue Air (LTN-SBZ)
Helsinki for the weekend on BA and KF
Easter in Ukraine with Austrian
UAE and Oman with BA and Air Arabia. Y & Y
HKG-LHR-HKG Air New Zealand, Premium Economy and Economy
US Airways LGW-DCA-MSP-LGA-LGW
London Heathrow - Zurich - Venice on Swiss Business for the weekend
Chasing the Eclipse on China Eastern
Taiwan: EVA Air (HKG-TPE rtn), UNI Airways (TSA-HCN), Daily Air (TTT-KYD rtn)
UA HKG-SIN-HKG Y Class, SQ KUL-SIN C Class
Bangkok to Beijing, Egyptair Business Class
Air China Beijing to Harbin, B777 Economy outbound, A330 First Class return
Tiger Airways, Singapore to Darwin return
A selection of Chinese Domestics; China Eastern, Air China and Shenzhen Airlines
Hong Kong to London on Singapore Airlines (744/380/77W)
Qatar Airways Beijing-Doha-London Heathrow (A330/A340)
Air China First Class. Beijing-Guilin via Xi%u2019an
Round Asia Trip. URC-HTN,OSS-FRU,ALA-URC-LHW-KMG-JHG-KMG-SYX,HAK-NKG-PEK-NRT-LHR, Hainan Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Lucky Air, ANA, Economy and Business Class.
SAS and Lufthansa Business Class, LHR-OSL-FRA-FRA, B73G and B744



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User currently offlinetk747 From Australia, joined Sep 2009, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8946 times:

I love that you put in so many photos. Thanks for sharing this great trip report. I'm looking forward to reading the upcoming segments on the rest of your trip.

TK747


User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8882 times:

Good report,

The Caravan is a pretty cool a/c with lots of possibilities for great pics.

Corona, Sol, Pacific so which one do you prefer?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
a spare cockpit seat….

I've read that some airlines allow passengers to go there...



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2354 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8841 times:

Always nice to read from such exotic destinations and airlines...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Viva Aerobus %u2013 nice to bring fares down, but other than that, a fairly faceless and mundane no frills airline.



Lucky you... I flew last year with VB. The experience was not so great, as our plane (ex Thai Air Asia) had a very distinctive smell from the toilet. The worst you could imagine- it was like flying a cowshed...   


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8815 times:

Hi

Another nice trip report, Love the scenery pics
Find it quite humourus you flew on a 737 of viva'AERBOUS'.



Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8637 times:

Thanks for all your comments so far!

Quoting tk747 (Reply 2):
I love that you put in so many photos

Good to hear!

Quoting tk747 (Reply 2):
Thanks for sharing this great trip report.

No problem!

Quoting tk747 (Reply 2):
I'm looking forward to reading the upcoming segments on the rest of your trip.

Well, there's just one segment left, which I'm flying tonight. Hoipefully report will be up by the weekend.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 3):

The Caravan is a pretty cool a/c with lots of possibilities for great pics.

Yeah, it was a great plane for photo ops.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 3):
Good report,

Thanks!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 3):

Corona, Sol, Pacific so which one do you prefer?

I think I'd have to rank them Corona, Pacifico then Sol. But they're all nice, especially with a slice of lime! I didn't like the Sol with lemon AND SALT! That was a bit too Mexican for me!

Quoting debonair (Reply 4):
Always nice to read from such exotic destinations and airlines...

Thanks

Quoting debonair (Reply 4):

Lucky you... I flew last year with VB. The experience was not so great, as our plane (ex Thai Air Asia) had a very distinctive smell from the toilet. The worst you could imagine- it was like flying a cowshed...

Yuch. I;m glad my flight was only short

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 5):

Another nice trip report, Love the scenery pics

Thanks



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1570 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8620 times:
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Hello Gabriel

Thanks for this lovely update on your Mexico adventure. This story brings back some nice memories of my holiday (Oaxaca!, Monte Alban!) there some years ago. I did not visit the north of Mexico, only the region southwest and south of Mexico DF. Oaxaca however I did not like too much, unfriendly people and atmosphere there... Great to see you sampled some 'exotic' carriers. A Cessna (did not know that type was operated commercially) and the 'VivaBoeingBus' plane, say the Ryanair of Mexico. A lot of lovely pics from up above as well, good job!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There was a spare cockpit seat…

So no F/O?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Boeing B737-300 EI-ERD

EI-NERD, now that would be a reg   

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Cabin

Lots of advertising on the overheads, no wonder with the Ryans being partly owner of this company.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Aviasca have also gone bust

Indeed, I flew this carrier once from CUN to MEX on a great old B727.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
apparently, you shouldn%u2019t hail a taxi on the street in Mexico City, as you%u2019ll probably end up dead, or robbed and beaten

Maybe a bit exaggerated but it is definitely not the safest thing to do.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8608 times:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):

Thanks for this lovely update on your Mexico adventure.

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
Oaxaca however I did not like too much, unfriendly people and atmosphere there.

I was 50:50 at the begining. I think the lack of heat and sun that I'd grown used to on the coast affected mey feelings towards it. But it was a nice town. Didn't overly like the Oaxacan food though.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):

So no F/O?

Nope

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
Lots of advertising on the overheads, no wonder with the Ryans being partly owner of this company.

I had no idea it was part FR.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):

Maybe a bit exaggerated but it is definitely not the safest thing to do.

A little overexaggeration maybe! I took one yesterday and it was fine - about to take another. If you don't hear back from you, you know whats happened!



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6402 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8453 times:

Hi Gabriel!

Nice report with nice pictues !

I agree with you; food in Oaxaca doesn't look too good!

VivaAerobus seem very cramped. Nice you got a ride on a Cessna 208 Caravan!

The777Man



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8432 times:

Hi Gab,

Your Mexican adventures just keep getting more interesting! Loved this installment with lots of destination pictures and some interesting flying thrown in for good measure!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Good to see you’ll still following my trip!

How do you know?  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A few photos from Cabo.

Looks nice, but is there anything more there than a touristic resort thingy? Any authentic Mexican culture remaining or is it all geared for the Americanos?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
An abandoned fleet – think it was Aero California or something?

Yes, defunct since 2008. Some nice DC-9s there.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was quite excited when a Cessna 208 was towed over to face the terminal from a remote stand. This would be my bird today.

Nice! I would be very excited flying on one of those!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
seems like they’d sold the extra 4 seats in the time it took me to get to the airport), before being walked to the plane across the baking hot tarmac.

Or maybe they overbook by four?  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
My view

Now that is indeed great and indeed something different than sitting on the Ryanair exit row...   Reminds me of my flight with an Aurigny Trislander where I sat right behind the pilot.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
No IFE today, but I think this (just about) beats the moving map!

What more could you ask for? OK, maybe a free bottle of cognac to be passed around the cabin...  

But seriously speaking that flight time was quiet a long one, did it feel like a drag at any point? I guess flying so slow help a lot with the nice views.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There was a spare cockpit seat….

Did you ask about moving there?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Latenight stopover in Guadalajara

I like the town of Tequila nearby!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Oaxaca. Lovely city, although MUCH colder and wetter than on the coast. I needed to change my shorts for jeans.

What's up with Oaxaca, since you really seemed to make a point in getting there?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Local Oaxaca cuisine

Stop making me hungry. SOOOOOO different from the mainstream tex mex thingies you get in Europe...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Airport check in $110

Was there any other option? No separate charge for the bag?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The booking process was a bit annoying. They had low headline prices, but once you started the booking process, more and more fees appeared.

Well it is a low cost carrier after all - they probably learned from the best - Ryanair!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The night stopping UA ERJ for IAH

What the hell is that? I've never seen an ERJ-135/140/145 with a winglets?!?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Boeing B737-300 EI-ERD

Interesting carriers on the history of this bird - Virgin Nigeria and Sama, anyone?  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
From the seat back pocket:

That route network looks very extensive - interesting.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I decided to order some breakfast. Not the greatest, but not bad value, and tasted ok.

Looks quite dry actually.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As many others have witnessed, Mexico City just seems to go on for ever. If you like city-view approaches, MEX is for you!

Wow. Impressive urban sprawl all around you - sure beats LAX. And quite intensive traffic, it seems. I wonder how long the average commute here is...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I counted 91 pax disembarking from our plain white Viva Aerobus (fully they fly Boeings not Airbuses!).

Hah, quite like NextJet in Sweden who have no jets in the fleet and never had...  


User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8375 times:

Thanks for all your comments so far!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):

Nice report with nice pictues !

Thanks!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):

I agree with you; food in Oaxaca doesn't look too good!

Spme was ok. I was a bit mored of Mexican food by this point.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):

VivaAerobus seem very cramped

Yeah, not a spacious layout

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
Nice you got a ride on a Cessna 208 Caravan!

Yeah, it was great! A rare catch!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Your Mexican adventures just keep getting more interesting! Loved this installment with lots of destination pictures and some interesting flying thrown in for good measure!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Looks nice, but is there anything more there than a touristic resort thingy? Any authentic Mexican culture remaining or is it all geared for the Americanos?

Well, there were lots of watersports/fishing etc. Normal sort of resort town. Quite realxing as it was off season for the Americans. I imagine during Spring Break it'd be awful. I went jetskiing - awesome!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):

Or maybe they overbook by four?

It's possible....

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
What more could you ask for? OK, maybe a free bottle of cognac to be passed around the cabin...

Ahh, a cognac, that's what we were missing!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
But seriously speaking that flight time was quiet a long one, did it feel like a drag at any point? I guess flying so slow help a lot with the nice views.

Yeah, it was a rather long time. I had my MP3 and noisecanceling headphones, so it wasn't too bad

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Did you ask about moving there?

Nope - should have done. The pilot didn;t speak much English, and my Spanish doesn't include "can I sit in the cockpit to take photos"

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
I like the town of Tequila nearby!

If I'd had a few more days I woudl have stopped in Tequila and Morelia. Next time!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
What's up with Oaxaca, since you really seemed to make a point in getting there?

Both of my sisters had been there and really liked it, so I thought I should have the effort. I can't be beaten by BOTH of them!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Was there any other option? No separate charge for the bag?

I paid about 100 pesos more for the VivaMore fare (or whatever it's called), which included up to 25kg bag (not bad, better than 15kg on FR)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
What the hell is that? I've never seen an ERJ-135/140/145 with a winglets?!?

Nice lookgin bird I think

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Interesting carriers on the history of this bird - Virgin Nigeria and Sama, anyone?

Very interesting history

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
Wow. Impressive urban sprawl all around you - sure beats LAX. And quite intensive traffic, it seems. I wonder how long the average commute here is...

When I got a taxi from the airport, the Sat Nav said it'd take 15 mins. Ended up taking 50 due to the traffic.



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6402 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8329 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 10):
What the hell is that? I've never seen an ERJ-135/140/145 with a winglets?!?

It's called EMB-145XR and has longer range than the non-wingletted EMB-145. Think only ExpressJet (XE) in the US flies them.

The777Man



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8321 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
It's called EMB-145XR and has longer range than the non-wingletted EMB-145. Think only ExpressJet (XE) in the US flies them.

Tack så mycket, L! I never knew this! Ok, I've read about the XR model but never realized it actually featured winglets.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6402 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8267 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Tack så mycket, L! I never knew this! Ok, I've read about the XR model but never realized it actually featured winglets.

Hyvaa, P! Think you should take a trip over here to try one out!  

They fly some very long route for a regional jet; up to four hours. Think they fly IAH-SBA, IAH-BFL and things like that. I flew on one a few years ago IAD-IAH and it was okay. I much prefer the EMB jets to the CRJ-200s.

The777Man



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User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8094 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
It's called EMB-145XR and has longer range than the non-wingletted EMB-145. Think only ExpressJet (XE) in the US flies them.

Thats an interesting fact - nice to find out about a new rare type!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
They fly some very long route for a regional jet; up to four hours.

Pretty long flights for a jungle jet



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User currently offlineRICARIZA From Colombia, joined Apr 2005, 2376 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7696 times:

I loved it. Thanks for so many pictures. I actually was looking for a TR on VivaAerobus, and it seem nothing special for what you explained.

Thanks again, great TR!



I miss ACES, I am proud of AVIANCA & I am loyal to AMERICAN
User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7611 times:

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 16):
I loved it.

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!


Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 16):
I actually was looking for a TR on VivaAerobus, and it seem nothing special for what you explained.

Yeah, nothing special, but offers good fares compared to AeroMexico



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6639 posts, RR: 78
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7016 times:

Time to catch up! Nice report, Gabriel, I had been curious how your Vivaerobus flight would be like. It seems to be a very ordinary LCC, not the kind of airline which you'd like to take more than once. But it's still better than a bus...  

You included some really nice destination pictures - Mexico is high on my list.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
An abandoned fleet %u2013 think it was Aero California or something?

Good old DC-9s, I remember seeing them a lot at LAX many years ago.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Aeromexico was really expensive (GBP 130 for a 50 min flight).

That's a lot indeed. I once checked fares for a possible Mexico trip and also noticed these relatively high fares.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3021 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6827 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
Nice report

Thanks!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
I had been curious how your Vivaerobus flight would be like. It seems to be a very ordinary LCC, not the kind of airline which you'd like to take more than once. But it's still better than a bus...

Well, that was the crucial factor....NOT taking the bus!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
You included some really nice destination pictures

Thanks!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
That's a lot indeed. I once checked fares for a possible Mexico trip and also noticed these relatively high fares.

I think since the demise of Mexicana, Aeromexico flights have sky rocketed



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