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KE A380 ICN-LAX In J Class: The Flying Winnebago  
User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 27539 times:

Background

This trip is part of a longer sequence, however, as this leg features the larger than life A380, I thought it best to treat is as a separate trip report to give it the space it deserves.

The story starts early in 2011, after countless hours of harassing AeroMexico's Club Premier agents into finding KE award tickets for me.

Why KE you might ask? After being less than impressed with AeroMexico's J Class I thought I'd try another Skyteam carrier, with Korean having a rather bright reputation as of late, I think it was the best idea to give them a shot.

With the A380 appearing in the GDS, there seemed to be an increase in award availability, which finally helped me score the tickets I coveted; LAX-ICN-HKG-ICN-HKG for October 2011. A380 here we come !!

Unfortunately, as it tends to be the case when booking so far in advance, the A380, originally scheduled to operate both LAX-ICN and ICN-LAX, was swapped to a 773 on the outbound, not a big loss I thought, at least the 773 has the same seats.

Fast forward to October 30th, beautiful and sunny autumn morning in Seoul, it's cool and crisp and we caught the KAL Limousine Bus from the Renaissance Hotel in Gangnam. Thanks to the light weekend traffic, the bus trip took about 55 minutes, which sure beats the 90 minutes it took getting to the hotel the previous evening.

Korean Air 017
Airbus A380
HL7613
15:10-09:55
ICN-LAX


Airport experience

Incheon is still one of my favorite airports, the modern architecture coupled with the vegetation and wood accents make for a very nice atmosphere. As we had already been checked in the previous day at Hong Kong, we only had to pass through security and passport control. It was not too busy so this was all done in about 10 minutes. After that it was off to the very nice Korean Air Prestige Lounge.


Curbside at ICN


Glass and trees


ICN Check in Lobby


ICN Check in Lobby

The new Prestige Lounge at Incheon is a great place to spend some timein, good variety of snacks and drinks, good wifi, and beautiful views of the ramp below, does one need much more for happiness?


Prestige Lounge at Incheon

Managed to spot our A380 arrive from Tokyo Narita at noon, as well as the Lufthansa A380 heading to Frankfurt. Impressive to see that ICN is now receiving whale jets from KE, LH and EK.


Korean Air jets


Beautiful weather today


Korean Air A380 arriving from Tokyo-Narita


The winter Olympics jet


My boarding pass for today

As the time for boarding came, my anticipation grew, headed down to the gate areas to snap pictures of the big jet.


Departure gates at ICN


Big blue smurf


Head on


Mighty engines

Boarding

General boarding started exactly at 2:40pm, 30 minutes before departure. We had 3 whole jetways to make things smooth, amazing ! But before you could board, there was that always lovable bag check, thankfully there was a staff of about 20 agents to make things smooth. My check didn't take more than a minute or two before I was free to go.

Prestige Class takes up the entire upper deck of the A380, hence there's a dedicated boarding bridge. I hurried to get on in order to snap a few pictures with the cabin as empty as possible.


Boarding commenced smoothly


3 jet bridges


Welcome aboard

On board

First impressions on the new whale jet were very favorable, the 2-2-2 arrangement is very comfortable, the side bins are also very welcome albeit not as big as the ones in the 747-400 upper deck. I took a look at the small lounge in front of the cabin and found it a very welcome addition, main lavatory in the front as well was quite spacious. The big cabin and lounge made me feel like I was on board a flying Winnebago.


Cabin impressions


Cabin impressions


Cabin impressions


Cabin impressions


Custom IFE welcome screen for the A380

Pre-Takeoff Service

Crew was very welcoming, pre-departure beverages were served, however by the time they got to me they were out of champagne so I had to settle for water (on other airlines I've usually seen them go back to the galley to restock in order to give a full choice to everyone). Not really a big deal though. A lady who appeared to be the FA in charge of biz came by and introduced herself, she was very nice.

When you get to your seat there's a blanket and a pillow, as well as slippers in the front pocket. I never used the blanket though and was not tempted to take it home, why you ask? KE's blankets are exceptionally electric ! They manage to build up an impressive amount of static, with me being a rather electric individual myself, it made for a bad combination on my first encounter with them, I decided against even unwrapping them in subsequent flights.

Before pushbacks, FA's also distributed amenity kits containing the usual amenities.

Departure

We pushed back on time at 3:10pm local time, playing around with the IFE it was awesome to see the nose and tail cam, the outside view from the window is more of a challenge though, as many others have noted before, the thick fuselage makes good pictures a bit difficult, still, I managed to shoot a few pictures, and yes yes, I even shot a
video for you folks.

We took off to the North and afterwards did a loop over the airport towards the East, it's a shame I wasn't seated on the left side as views of Seoul must have been great.


Wingspan seems to droop down


Huuuuge shadow


Excellent camera view


Our shadow still seems huge


Banking south


Climb established


Love the sunlight coming through the cabin


Loop departure


Finally headed East

Meal Service

After takeoff, FA's passed through the cabin with menus in typical KE fashion, after a few minutes they come back and take your order for both dinner and breakfast.

Afterwards they passed through the cabin with beverage carts, it was somewhat surprising that the cart didn't really have much on offer other than soft drinks/wine/beer, if you want anything complicated, and by complicated I mean something like a bloody mary or a whiskey, they have to go back to the galley and get it for you which on occasions can take a while as the crew is busy with the regular workflow of the meal service.


Lunch between Korea and Japan


Amouse Bouche: Plums in pomegranate vinegar


Goat cheese with fig, greens and parma ham


Appetizer closeup


Lentil soup


Beef fillet with herb cream sauce, potatoes and veggies

The beef was a more medium than medium well but it was still ok, most important of all, it was tender and flavorful.


Cheese plate


Green tea


Formalities

One big complaint I have with KE catering though is the glassware used, glasses, both drink and wine are very small, three gulps of water and you're done.


Celestial Bar

After the nice meal I was feeling a bit sleepy, but my friend suggested we go try out the bar, not one to shy away from a drink (or three) I was happy to oblige.

I had seen pictures of KE's bar and I was underwhelmed, it looked a bit plain, but it looks good in person, simple, clean and elegant, while there's only one formal 3 person bench, there's a few spots where you can lean on and hang out.

The FA on duty as a bartender was very nice and enthusiastic and seemed to enjoy the festive atmosphere amongst the passengers there, even posing for pictures with a few passengers.

I had a few drinks and they were all very good, after the full meal I didn't really feel like having anything too strong and these drinks really hit the spot.


The famous Celestial Bar


Pear drink


Nice menu


Raspberry drink


Comfy couch


Tom Collins


Bar


Lounge overview

Mid flight snack and IFE

Curious to try some of the snack offerings, I decided to try out the pizza margherita. Pushed the call button and an FA was at my seat within one minute, while I was waiting, I took some time to tinker with the IFE, offerings were the same as with previous KE flights, which isn't a bad thing of course, Korean offers a large sample of movies and short subject documentaries to keep yourself entertained with.

After about 20 minutes my pizza came, I was a bit disappointed to see it was a rather simple microwave style pizza, but it tasted good.


Pizza snack

I felt a bit guilty chomping down on so much stuff so I went to the front lounge to move about a bit and snap some shots.


Main staircase


First class bar, there's a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue amongst other goodies


Forward cabin lounge

The front cabin lounge is also quite nice as it has a similar layout as the bar in the back, sans bartender and windows.


Huge lavatory


Various amenities


How many people could we fit in here?

After walking about a bit it was time for some shuteye.

Breakfast Service

Ir really is unfortunate how time flies when you're having a good time. After some hours of sleep, we only had 3 hours of flight time to go. Watched some more TV and soon after (about 2 hours before landing), lights were turned on for breakfast service.


Good morning


Breakfast

We had a choice of either sweet potato omelette with mushrooms or Korean beef bone soup, the soup actually sounded very tempting but having ordered the beef for dinner, it was a bit too much to have more beef a few hours later.


Nice moving map

After breakfast there were still about 90 minutes until arrival so most passengers dozed back to sleep or just sat and relaxed.

Arrival

We arrived on time at LAX to the usual great views of Southern California and the LA Basin. Landed on runway 24R and had a view of no less than 7 Qantas widebodies grounded, sad sight. Due to construction at LAX, we had to taxi all the way to the end of runway 7R and then taxi back to TBIT to park.


Good morning California


Clear morning


LAX viewed on our downwind leg


Downtown LA


Can't get enough of that camera


Turning off the runway


Qantas jets gorunded


Scenic tour around the airport


Pulling into TBIT

Deplaning at LAX was via 2 boarding bridges, managed to snap a pic of our plane before leaving.


View from our arrival gate


Head on with the giant

Thanks to global entry, customs and immigration was painless. Too soon we were out of the terminal and the dream had finally ended.

Conclusions

What can I say? as an aviation enthusiast it really was a treat to fly on the new superjumbo, if one were to speak of the cabin only it would be just another plane from the passenger perspective. The difference with the A380 I think lies in the new territories that are carved out for passenger comfort; I really did love the new lounge spaces available. While nothing truly spectacular, they provide an excellent spot to chill out and socialize with fellow passengers, especially welcome in a time when seats are turning into little private cabins that isolate us from others.

With regards to KE, one certainly has to be thankful to them for configuring their A380s to allow such passenger convenience, others like AF and LH have not been quite so kind.

Service on Korean is generally very good, although there is room for improvement.

Seat and cabin comfort: The seats were lie flats and were generally very comfortable, although the seat didn't feel quite flat I still managed to find good positions to both sleep and relax. IFE had a good selection of movies and short programming.

Food and wine: Catering was good quality and very tasty, it was nice to have your steak cooked to order and wine runs were well executed. There was also a good selection of spirits and mixed drinks. Although, as mentioned before, actually asking for them seemed to throw the crew out of the loop. Water runs were surprisingly absent during mid-flight, you could certainly ask for water if you wanted and FA's were quick to respond but it would be nice to get this without having to ask, it's easy to get thirsty with those tiny glasses.

Crew: Most of the crew were very nice and polished, we were welcomed upon boarding and thanked for our business before arrival. Perhaps due to the language barrier though they seemed a bit reserved and didn't go off script much. This will probably sound like blasphemy, but on all of my KE flights, the senior FA's were the ones that seemed most in tune with passenger needs, although many of the more junior crew were also very good in this regard.


Many thanks for reading, questions or comments are welcome.

Ricardo


Previous Reports:

Foot Rubs And Naked Planespotting: BKK-NGO With TG (by SR117 Oct 15 2011 in Trip Reports)
Shorthaul With Lufthansa And Niki: MUC-VIE-MXP (by SR117 Oct 12 2011 in Trip Reports)
DL Inaugural To Haneda And Back, NRT-HKG RT Bonus! (by SR117 Mar 15 2011 in Trip Reports)
Mexicana Long Haul To EZE: Part 1 (by SR117 Nov 21 2009 in Trip Reports)
AeroMexico From Tijuana To Paris In Clase Premier (by SR117 Feb 24 2010 in Trip Reports)
AeroMexico From Tijuana To Paris In Clase Premier (by SR117 Feb 24 2010 in Trip Reports)
Adventures In Kyushu: Japan With NH And DL (by sr117 Nov 25 2010 in Trip Reports)
Not Quite Hell: LH Economy From FRA To HKG (by SR117 Aug 27 2009 in Trip Reports)
OZ221 Asiana Hanggong JFK-ICN In Steerage (by SR117 Aug 18 2009 in Trip Reports)
All Nippon Airways To Hong Kong - Part 1 (by SR117 Nov 27 2008 in Trip Reports)

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User currently offlineEL-AL From Israel, joined Oct 2001, 1355 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 27462 times:

Hello,

Very interesting read, the first report of KE A380 if i'm not mistaken.

The A380 JCL on KE looks way better then the one offered on AF.

Thx for shearing,

Jonathan

[Edited 2011-11-02 00:40:44]


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User currently offlinerichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 27462 times:

Hi

The idea of a lounge/bar area for premium class passengers is great. However the original 747's had this but over time the airlines removed them to add extra seats. I wonder will the same thing happen with the A380's.

Great trip report, thank you for sharing.

Alex


User currently offlinechristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 942 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 26858 times:

Nicely done trip report. I tell you, any plane with an IFE system should include a tail mounted camera! Since I have a trip back to the US from BKK planned next spring, I'm seriously considering a trip on KE just to try their A380.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27312 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 26618 times:

Very nice report and great to see the KE one. Very nice photos and I love the bar area. Nice catering too.

Thanks for sharing

OA260  


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 26285 times:

Hola Ricardo,

Congrats on flying the mighty beast of Korean Air and for producing this high quality report. Your excellent pics make the whole cabin look even more stylish and refined. To be honest, I don't really like the blue color tone, but I guess Korean had no other choice since it is their corporate color.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
does one need much more for happiness?

  

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
thankfully there was a staff of about 20 agents to make things smooth

20 agents? That's a lot. And you only started boarding 30 mins before STD? When I had my AF A380 flight, boarding was annoucned 1h before STD, and it really took that much time.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
The big cabin and lounge made me feel like I was on board a flying Winnebago.

   Funny comparison. Ever been in one?

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
The famous Celestial Bar

The name alone, sounds so grand. It seems a nice place to have a chat and a drink in a relaxed way.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
and had a view of no less than 7 Qantas widebodies grounded

A sad day for QF, heard about it on the news. I wonder what the outcome will be...

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
they provide an excellent spot to chill out and socialize with fellow passengers, especially welcome in a time when seats are turning into little private cabins that isolate us from others.

You have a point there. It is nice to have some privacy but I have had also some nice seatmates on longhaul flights with whom it was nice talking. It makes the time go somewhat faster...

Sultanils



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User currently offlineezy0134 From UK - England, joined Nov 2010, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 26090 times:

Wonderful TR! I love the bar areas with the mood lighting.
But I do find the J seats look extremely dull and just like the ones on AF. Were they comfortable to sleep on ?

regards


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 26069 times:

Interesting to read and nice pictures. Good that you seem to do well Ricardo, long time not spoken. Seems you had a nice and long trip, read about your Nagoya flight already 2 or 3 weeks ago.
I will catch a flight on a Korean 380 in two weeks (Hong Kong-ICN), although only in Y-class I look forward to it.
Servaas



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3361 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 25473 times:

Great report. The KE 380 looks great. I love the bar area, really need to fly myself on one of these (or EKs birds).

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
Beef fillet with herb cream sauce, potatoes and veggies

Looks nice, although the portion looks very small

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
Qantas jets gorunded

Sad sight, but a good demonstration of the QF presence in LAX.



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User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 25298 times:

Hola Ricardo!

Great TR on an unusual airline here.

KE seems to be a great airline.

The cabin atmosphere looks very nice with the 2-2-2 seating, food looks excellent and the bar is an added joy to flying. I wonder how long these empty spaces will last until they reconsider adding more seats there to increase revenue.

The bathroom looks different to other business class toilets, really huge and nice.

Thanks for sharing.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently onlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8589 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 24684 times:
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Hi Ricardo,

Nice report and pictures, I did the opposite route a week ago on HL7614 - though down in economy as that is how most passengers will see this baby, TR due soon.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, as it tends to be the case when booking so far in advance, the A380, originally scheduled to operate both LAX-ICN and ICN-LAX, was swapped to a 773

- I had that problem too, had to re-book for the following day to get the 380.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
The new Prestige Lounge at Incheon is a great place to spend some timein

- Indeed is a nice space.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
good variety of snacks and drinks

- I thought they were a bit lacking for the home town carrier.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
beautiful views of the ramp below

- Indeed, shame mine were at night  
Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
Managed to spot our A380 arrive from Tokyo Narita at noon, as well as the Lufthansa A380 heading to Frankfurt. Impressive to see that ICN is now receiving whale jets from KE, LH and EK.

- Never knew LH flew the bird there.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
pre-departure beverages were served, however by the time they got to me they were out of champagne so I had to settle for water (on other airlines I've usually seen them go back to the galley to restock in order to give a full choice to everyone)

- That is usual, surprising they did not go back for a re-fill.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
One big complaint I have with KE catering though is the glassware used, glasses, both drink and wine are very small, three gulps of water and you're done.

- Same problem in economy, way way too small glasses.

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
my pizza came, I was a bit disappointed to see it was a rather simple microwave style pizza

- Hmm, looks like one from the freezer aisle in my supermarket!

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 24275 times:

Hi Recardo

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us! the KE 380 looks to be nice, I love the bar set-up. Any idea if the duty-free shop still is in place on the 388?


Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinejetMARC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 24044 times:

I was on that jetBlue plane in the photo taxiing next to you in LAX!! - We watched you taxi back up 24L after you landed and with airport police cars acting as your wing walkers, hence the tour. Think you guys had to taxi around some taxiway construction to get to your terminal. Small world!


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26150 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 23563 times:

Nice TR and pics

Funny I was in Seoul at the Renaissance Hotel also having checked out and flew back to LA (on OZ) the day prior!



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1262 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 23509 times:

I used to fly on TWA 747s with the upstairs lounge in F as there was no C. Generally they were empty.

User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 21148 times:

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 1):
Very interesting read, the first report of KE A380 if i'm not mistaken.

The A380 JCL on KE looks way better then the one offered on AF.

Thanks EL-AL, another a.netter did a couple of very comprehensive reports on a HKG-ICN-HKG roundtrip and he did an extensive photoshoot on the aircraft, he did a great job !

Quoting richcandy (Reply 2):
The idea of a lounge/bar area for premium class passengers is great. However the original 747's had this but over time the airlines removed them to add extra seats. I wonder will the same thing happen with the A380's.

Hey Alex, this is exactly what I thought while I was chugging my drinks, I figured, this may be my first and last time in an A380 bar before more seats replace this, enjoy it while it lasts : )

Quoting christao17 (Reply 3):
Nicely done trip report. I tell you, any plane with an IFE system should include a tail mounted camera! Since I have a trip back to the US from BKK planned next spring, I'm seriously considering a trip on KE just to try their A380.

Hey Chris, I completely agree ! That camera is quite an asset, especially during takeoff and landing. KE is pretty good in economy, I flew on one of their 737s from REP to ICN and legroom was great, and a 747 from SEL to HND and legroom was also pretty decent, I wouldn't hestitate to fly them on a longer trip.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):

20 agents? That's a lot. And you only started boarding 30 mins before STD? When I had my AF A380 flight, boarding was annoucned 1h before STD, and it really took that much time.

Thanks for the comments Sultanils, indeed, crazy eh? There were about 10 tables and each one with 2 agents, I was thinking of taking a picture but when it comes to those security measures one should be careful, I wanted to avoid extra questions, especially as I was in a hurry to get on board.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Funny comparison. Ever been in one?

Not yet, but it sure felt like one I am sure  It wasn't an airplane, it felt like a flying building of sorts : )

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
You have a point there. It is nice to have some privacy but I have had also some nice seatmates on longhaul flights with whom it was nice talking.

Indeed, sometimes one seeks for privacy by default but spaces like these make you a bit more open. Having an unexpected nice conversation with a fellow traveller can be a rewarding experience. Were it not for spaces like these it just wouldn't quite be so comfortable to do so.

Quoting ezy0134 (Reply 6):
Wonderful TR! I love the bar areas with the mood lighting.
But I do find the J seats look extremely dull and just like the ones on AF. Were they comfortable to sleep on ?

Thanks a lot ! Indeed the seats don't seem quite state of the art like some of the new J seats that all have direct aisle access or are like mini cabins. But they are still comfortable I think, and great if you are travelling with someone else. Getting out of the window was very easy even if the person in the aisle was fully reclined.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 7):
Interesting to read and nice pictures. Good that you seem to do well Ricardo, long time not spoken. Seems you had a nice and long trip, read about your Nagoya flight already 2 or 3 weeks ago.
I will catch a flight on a Korean 380 in two weeks (Hong Kong-ICN), although only in Y-class I look forward to it.
Servaas

Hey Servaas, indeed, long time no speak, nice to hear from you !

wow, hope you enjoy your HKG-ICN trip ! Are you taking a redeye? Be sure to try the spa at ICN if you can.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Looks nice, although the portion looks very small

Hey Gabriel, thanks a lot for the comments, indeed the portions were a bit smaller than I was used to, but since there were a few courses I was quite satisfied in the end, and with KE it is nice to leave some space in your stomach so that you can try the snack noodles, they are very good.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):
Hola Ricardo!

Great TR on an unusual airline here.

KE seems to be a great airline.

The cabin atmosphere looks very nice with the 2-2-2 seating, food looks excellent and the bar is an added joy to flying. I wonder how long these empty spaces will last until they reconsider adding more seats there to increase revenue.

Hola Roger, muchas gracias.

Indeed, 2-2-2 doesn't seem bad at all and the bar was my favorite part of the whole experience, made for a new experience in the air. Sadly, I was thinking as well as to whether such luxury would last. But I think that it's a good sign when airlines like TK or 9W have bar setups in their 777s means that at least premium airlines are trying to outdo themselves with regards to on board amenities. I hope it stays that way.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):
Nice report and pictures, I did the opposite route a week ago on HL7614 - though down in economy as that is how most passengers will see this baby, TR due soon.

Hey Mark, looking forward to seeing how it went.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):
- I thought they were a bit lacking for the home town carrier.

What time were you there? I was at the lounge at 6am once and the spread was pretty paltry. Another day at 12pm though it was much more varied, they had a bit of everything. And how could one forget the well appointed bathrooms, they were japanese style high tech bathrooms too  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):
- Never knew LH flew the bird there.

Me neither, and it seems they don't ! I wonder if it was swapped at the last minute? I was looking out the window when suddenly it appeared:


Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):
- That is usual, surprising they did not go back for a re-fill.

I know, I was disappointed, on my previous HKG-ICN leg the flight attendants topped off my pre flight champagne twice, while on others like LAX-ICN they didn't even offer it, it was very strange..

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):
- Hmm, looks like one from the freezer aisle in my supermarket!

Indeed, not too fancy looking, with KE snacks you're much better off asking for the noodles or fresh baked cookies.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 11):
Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us! the KE 380 looks to be nice, I love the bar set-up. Any idea if the duty-free shop still is in place on the 388?

Hey Marc, there's a duty free shop downstairs, but it's pretty small and simple I hear, I didn't go down but my friend did and he said it was just a small area.

Quoting jetMARC (Reply 12):
I was on that jetBlue plane in the photo taxiing next to you in LAX!! -

Hey there, no way ! hehe, small world indeed. So you were on this plane?


Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):
Funny I was in Seoul at the Renaissance Hotel also having checked out and flew back to LA (on OZ) the day prior!

Now this really -is- a small world. I enjoyed my stay at the Renaissance, wasn't expecting much due to the mixed reviews, but I got a nice room and wifi was free. Lots of good places to eat nearby so I had nothing to complain about (and the airport bus stops right in front). Hope you had a nice flight with OZ, I miss flying with them. Had the best inflight meal with them flying ICN-SFO once (ssam bap).

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 14):
I used to fly on TWA 747s with the upstairs lounge in F as there was no C. Generally they were empty.

Lucky guy ! Those were the days. I hope they're not too empty on the A380.. don't want them to get removed.

Thanks again for the comments guys.
Ricardo


User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 20910 times:

Wow, what a absolutely fantastic read! I've seen many pictures of the KE A380 but for some reason, I never knew there was a bar area! It looks absolutely stunning. Also, the photo with the stairs and the blue mood lighting just looks spectacular. KE really have done a good job of kitting out there A380's! Although, i'm not 100% about the cabin colours, they do look slightly cold..

Anyway, thanks again, I really enjoyed reading this!



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User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 18963 times:

Quoting T8KE0FF (Reply 16):
Also, the photo with the stairs and the blue mood lighting just looks spectacular. KE really have done a good job of kitting out there A380's! Although, i'm not 100% about the cabin colours, they do look slightly cold..

Thanks a lot for the nice words !

Indeed I think KE did a very nice job of outfitting their A380, it's not quite as glitzy as the Emirates but it's certainly more exciting than QF, LH or AF. I only wish more airlines would follow with the creature comforts offered.

The interior colors are a matter of taste I think, I'm not much of a fan of light blue but it's a nice change from the ever present dark blue, and hey, it's consistent with the entire smurfy image, blue planes, blue uniforms, blue seats.

Ricardo


User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 18939 times:

Hi Ricardo,

Very good report you made here. Loved looking into the new KE 380s. Really nice soothing colours used in the cabin.

A shame the champagne had run dry before you got your hands on some, never mind, looks like you made up for it in the Celestial bar  

Nice presentation with the food and the quality looks high, sure a good combination when you include attentive crew. I agree with you when you say it's nice sometimes for the crew to provide certain things without having to ask, almost on instinct. I feel like i'm pestering them sometimes in these cases.

Thanks for sharing this with us, really enjoyed your good quality pictures.
Cheers, Lee.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 18862 times:

Hey Lee, thanks for the comments !

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):
A shame the champagne had run dry before you got your hands on some, never mind, looks like you made up for it in the Celestial bar

Indeed, I actually mentioned to the FA that I was wanted champagne and was surprised when she didn't show up again. But thankfully, yes, there was an entire bar to keep busy with 
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):
Nice presentation with the food and the quality looks high, sure a good combination when you include attentive crew. I agree with you when you say it's nice sometimes for the crew to provide certain things without having to ask, almost on instinct. I feel like i'm pestering them sometimes in these cases.

Therein lies the difference between good and excellent. I don't usually like asking for things so it's great when the crew volunteers service before you have to even ask. Something as simple as asking "May I get you anything else?" makes a huge difference in perception. KE could certainly work a bit on this point as I've found that OZ crew seem to be slightly prone to pro-active service.

Ricardo

[Edited 2011-11-11 15:59:34]

User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 548 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 17546 times:

great TR!!!! I think your report certainly gave KE some well deserved justice! I've flown them many times to and from the US and they have terrific service.

Did you have the full lie flat seats? or slanted?


User currently offlineSuperBus From France, joined Nov 2011, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 15499 times:

Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
Head on
Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
Mighty engines
Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
3 jet bridges
Quoting SR117 (Thread starter):
Head on with the giant

I have three words for all the above. REALLY. AWESOME. SHOTS.   

-SuperBus


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14992 times:

Quoting 777ord (Reply 20):

great TR!!!! I think your report certainly gave KE some well deserved justice! I've flown them many times to and from the US and they have terrific service.

Did you have the full lie flat seats? or slanted?

Hey there, thanks for the comments ! Indeed, KE is a very nice airline, I have a few KE Economy trip reports to write up where they performed beautifully as well. I dare say, KE is slightly more impressive in Economy.

Seats on the A380 are lie flats, they're the same seats in the 747 and 777 fleet, they don't have aisle access but they're still pretty decent.

Quoting SuperBus (Reply 21):
I have three words for all the above. REALLY. AWESOME. SHOTS.   

-SuperBus

Hey Superbus, thanks a lot ! Well, the A380 looks pretty cool from most angles : )


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