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The Return - A LH Trio: BOG-FRA-MUC-HEL  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10623 times:

Introduction

This is the third part in my trip report about Colombia covering the return trip to Finland with Lufthansa plus some impressions of Bogota.

For the real introduction and the events leading to this please see the previous parts here: El Cheapo Longhaul: HEL-ARN-FRA-BOG (by FlyingFinn76 Oct 27 2011 in Trip Reports) and Mullets, Mountains And Medellin: BOG-MDE-BOG (by FlyingFinn76 Oct 29 2011 in Trip Reports)

Sunday 23.10.2011

Since the LH flight wouldn’t leave until the evening we had almost a full day for sightseeing. The morning started with a Transmilenio ride to La Candelabra - the colonial quarter of Bogota. This is a bus stop - the Transmilenio is a cross between a metro and a bus with dirt cheap tickets and rather bumpy rides - the roads here aren’t in the best of conditions:

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Plaza de Bolivar, this is Capitolio Nacional housing the congress:

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They have this really great idea of blocking many streets for car traffic on Sundays and reserving them for bikes and pedestrians:

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I can just about understand the grid-based address system but why do certain (but not all, not by a long shot) streets also have names:



My third ugly library building within a week (the other ones were in Karlstad, Sweden and Oulu, Finland):

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Salsa practice:

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Cable car up to the Monserrate mountain - rather steep:

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Sardines in a can:

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Oh, it’s Swiss - then there’s nothing to be afraid of:

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Ascending:

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There’s also a funicular:

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View from the top:

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Church on top, what else:

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The weather turned nasty during the lunch we had up there. This is the view when appetizers were served:

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By the time we got into the main course the city had disappeared and there was thunder and lightning nearby:



Misty view to a nearby peak:

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Colombian food is very good:

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As is of course the coffee - Juan Valdez is their version of Starbucks:

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Bogota’s Zona Rosa at night:

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It’s Colombia - so you are expecting Shakira aren’t you? I’ll finish with a picture of her... pants:

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We stayed at the Hotel Fenix Real - not in the best of areas but a very comfortable hotel where half of staff (the girl) were excellent and half not so (the guy). Good value for money - 44 EUR for the night with wifi and breakfast. Gab’s rate was even less. My room (Suryo, this room is featured on the hotel website!):

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View out of my room window - Sunday morning was sunny and nice but things went rapidly downhill from there:

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The neighborhood around the hotel:

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After a day of sightseeing we grab a taxi to the airport more than three hours before departure. The LH counters are already open and there are lots of them - four or five at least. Gab goes off in an effort to find a ticket office to inquire about a paid upgrade - I try to go to check in but am stopped by a friendly girl who asks me how long I have been in Colombia and then directs me to an office to get a departure tax excemption stamp in my passport - apparently short enough stays qualify for this - quite nice as the departure tax is tens of dollars. Having done that I’m allowed to proceed and go to the First/Star Gold desk, where another very nice girl confirms that I’m going to Helsinki, takes my rollaboard (it is perfectly fine as a carryon, but I decided to save myself some hassle and check it in), tags it with red Priority tags and hands me three boarding passes with the seats I picked from OLCI. Very friendly and efficient, just the way I want it to be!

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International check in hall:

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Gab comes back having not found a ticket office anywhere and proceeds to check in, where he is duly informed that our fare class is far too low (if only they knew...) for any paid upgrade, so roughing it in economy it will be! Next we head upstairs to a rather nice and modern looking shopping area (see, when there’s money to be made off the pax they are willing to spend money on nice facilities!), decide that there’s not much there and head through passport and security control to airside - another shopping mall but much direr and nastier than the one before security. I guess they don’t need to put money on presentation and attracting customers as they are already captive!

More Aires over at the domestic pier:

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A quick bout of shopping at the duty free store where they inform us that no, they don’t have those clear plastic bag for packaging booze so I kiss (mentally) those $8 bottles of Rum good bye as there’s no way to get them through security at FRA.

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The low ceiling gives a claustrophobic feeling to the international pier - not helped by it being quite packed:

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I told you they are big at Colombian airports:

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Next we head off in search for the lounge - there should be a Diners Club -accessible lounge somewhere here, but the directions at the website were a bit vague. Finally after searching around we ask at the Avianca Lounge and lo and behold - it actually turns out to be the one! I try to pay the guest fee for Gab (which has to be paid with DC) but their credit card terminal refuses to work, so in the end he gets in for free.

Well, not sure if that was a blessing or a curse as the lounge is horribly packed. Otherwise it would be an ok facility with some tasty small sandwiches prepared by a catering crew and decent drink offerings and some stylish furniture, but it is just so packed. It is already almost standing room only, luckily we get a pair of seats as one of the Finns, J. on the outbound flight who I know is flying back on the same flight sees me and invites us to his table for some chat and war stories about Colombia, what else.

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More people keep pouring in and people are standing everywhere and even sitting on the floor - not very premium loungish! I hope the new terminal will feature a much larger lounge for AV!

View from the lounge window:

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In the lounge I also finally manage to break my passport - the photo page comes off. It’s been on the verge for a long time (ever since it went through the washing machine....) but now it finally happened. Oh well, lucky me that it wasn’t until now as I can always enter Europe with my ID card just fine!

J. has a Priority Pass so he leaves to check out the Admirals Club - I think it tells a lot about a lounge when people prefer even an AC to it! Gab decides to go exploring as well and we agree to meet at the gate. I rough it out a little bit longer, but more and more people keep coming in and finally I decide to bail out as well.

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My timing was good as the are already taking people in to the gate area - there’s no plane to be seen so it looks like it’ll be a bus boarding. They check passports again when entering the gate, my broken one doesn’t even cause an eyebrow to be lifted. There’s another X-ray for luggage, not sure what they are looking for as some people get their bags searched and some, including me are just told to bugger off.

Boarding is soon called, they make a call about First, Business and status pax to board first but nobody seems to care, not the passengers and certainly not the gate staff! The stampede moves through a door to a walkway down to a lower level where there are lots of luggage - I guess checked luggage that looked suspicious at X-ray is here and people are asked to open them for the officials. Luckily mine nor Gab’s is nowhere to be seen.

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Last view of Colombian beer:

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Wow, I’ve never been this close to a JetBlue bird:

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Looks like bus boardings aren’t that commonplace here as the whole process is a bit disorganized, but finally the packed bus leaves and after a short ride stops in front of our chariot of the skies.

D-AIHT, the expected A346 and a different one from the outbound.

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These engines are a far cry from the hairdryers installed on the -200 and -300 series:

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It looks like this bird has not been christened yet - she has no name.

BOG - FRA
LH543
A340-600 D-AIHT
Seat 26E
21.46 - 14.24 (+1)

I picked seat 28A from OLCI as it was showing the whole row as empty still that morning. Well, by the time I get there there’s already a Colombian guy sitting on the aisle seat - so much for an empty seat next to me! When he gets up he actually asks if I mind switching places with his girlfriend - who just happens to be in the middle bulkhead seat 26E. Now I think I might’ve had a few Aguilas too many in the lounge or maybe I was feeling particularly chivalrous (or had an exceptional skill for clairvoyance!) but for some reason I agreed to do this. Yeah, I absolutely hate middle seats, but then again it is a night flight with no view for most of it, I was planning on sleeping as much as possible and the bulkhead row has great legroom so maybe it wasn’t such a bad deal after all. The bulkhead middle block has only three seats versus the normal four so that’s a nice bonus as well.

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Notice the LH postcards around the screen in front of us (only used for the safety demo) - a bunch of those ended up in my bag:

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The flight is not completely full, there are some empty seats here and there - but I do get a seatmate on the both sides - a Chinese girl and a Colombian guy who turns out to be on his way to Walldorf (so it’s not too hard to guess who he works for!). Both rather pleasant types as they prefer to sleep at the same time as me, so that’s a bonus!

This bird has the T-Mobile hotspot logo, but according to Gab there was no signal so I guess the system was not turned on:

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The crew is not as multilingual as on the flight out, I think announcements are mostly done only in English and im Deutsch, although there are some FAs who speaks Spanish onboard.

Push back is pretty much on time but it feels like they are pushing us back to Avenue Jimenez or thereabouts as the tug just keeps going for a good ten minutes - weird! Finally the engines are started with a very satisfying roar, we commence a slow taxi to runway 13L and finally take off. I expected a very long take off run due to our weight and the high altitude, but as it hasn’t been a very warm day it is quite a normal one.

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As is customary, service starts with a round of drinks. This time the pour on the Gin is much less generous than on the outbound flight. After the drinks round I actually fall to a light sleep, and am woken up by the meal service - a good one and half hours after take off, too late if you ask me!

The choices are pasta or beef - I decide to try the beef which turns out to be a disappointment (OK, Gabriel claimed that he liked it so maybe it is just me):

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The beef pieces are not very good, some cheap cuts, very chewy and not tender at all and the sauce tastes quite weird. The vegetables and starter salad are okay, but the best part is the dessert - some sort of lemony curd thing which is very sweet and nice (then again Gabriel thought it was the worst part of the meal...).

The PTV on these bulkhead screens folds away from under the seat - mine seemed to have a loose wire somewhere as the screen kept having annoying interference:

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After eating around half of the portion it is sleeping time again - and I manage to do quite well. I keep waking up every now and then needing to adjust my position, but apart from that I get over five hours of sleep before waking up for a toilet and water run. While waiting for a vacant toilet I notice that they actually have ashtrays down there:



I ask a passing FA about it and she explains that even though smoking onboard has been forbidden for quite a few years now it is still better to have ashtrays than have pax sneaking for a cigarette downstairs dumping them into the bin... I guess that makes sense.

Most of the pax are still asleep. The glow of the PTVs giving the cabin an eerie feeling:

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My seatmate is up and working:

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Coming back I doze some more, while watching the coast of Europe coming closer on the Airshow. Some one and half hours out of Frankfurt while nearing the French coast over the Bay of Biscay the lights are finally turned on and a hot breakfast is served:

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It is a quiche with spinach and some tomato salsa, a tub of yogurt, some bread and a rock hard muffin which I gladly skip. Some coffee starts the gradual waking up process. I liked the quiche, quite nice and the spinach was nicely done as well - this time Gabriel didn’t like it at all so looks like our tastes are quite different... Hello, Europe:

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Soon descent into Frankfurt is announced. I’m a bit buggered that I’m going to miss what looks like a very nice and sunny day outside which should guarantee good views. Well, while looking around I actually spot a vacant window seat with somebody else sitting on the aisle one. I decide to bite the bullet and head there, asking the very nice Italian man if I could sit there for the landing - he agrees and I’m happy as a bee! Hello, sunshine:

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Turning for FRA:

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Heading into the clouds:

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That’s one massive wing:

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Once well into our approach I spot a LH A321 on our right hand side:

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It is flying a parallel approach which has me confused - I thought the runways at FRA were too close to allow parallel operations:

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Gears down, so indeed we are landing at the same time:

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Hmm, maybe they need to deice this bird after landing:

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It isn’t until I see this view:

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…that I realize that we are landing on the new runway - 07L, which was just opened. Wow, didn’t really expect this at all - a VERY nice end to this sleepy longhaul flight.

See the A321 - the other runways are a bit far off:

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Landing on the new runway is quite smooth after a flight time of 10h15mins:

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Our braking is very gentle, much gentler than when landing at BOG.

MD-11 looking good:

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Nice reflection of us:

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Yes, no name on this bird:

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Nice lineup of colorful tails, although I’m not sure what Jet2 is doing here:

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Frankfurt being Frankfurt it takes a while before we dock to a jetway at the C gates area, right next to D-ABHH, the bird that took both me and Gab to BOG:

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Looks like -HH has a bump on her head - so it too was equipped with the satellite Internet connection, not that they made any announcements about it on the outbound flight:

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I grazie mille the Italian man continuing to his home in Milan furiously for giving me the possibility to watch this amazing approach and my first landing on the new runway, and then make my way to my original seat to pick up my trash. Being in the first row of economy I’m one of the first economy passengers to get off the plane. The Colombian guy and his girlfriend I traded places with thank me again for my kindness, well I we both won this time!

Monday 24.10.2011
Frankfurt Airport

View from the jetway of my ride:

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I wait quite some time for Gab and J to finally emerge. While entering the terminal the Bundespolizei is checking people’s passports which creates a minor chokepoint - some young Estonian guys also on their way to HEL (who no doubt were lured by the cheap fare as well!) get some grilling, but as usual my Finnish ID card and harmless looks result in me being waved past.

Frankfurt being Frankfurt it is a rather long walk to get to the A pier where our flight to MUC is leaving, luckily from the mid-A gates so very convenient for the LH lounge complex at A. The normal domestic German area at the low numbered A gates is quite a way from the lounge...

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A lot of cots had been set up on the corridor between B and C - wonder if some major delays were occurring somewhere:

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Somewhere along the way J leaves us and heads landside explaining that there’s a Priority Pass lounge there for him (he of course is going direct to HEL, not as hardcore as us!).

The officer at immigration comments on my ID card that he almost never sees any Finns with those, just plenty of folks with passports - I tell him that I try very hard to be different to the majority of my kinfolks which causes him to laugh and send me off.

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Well, Frankfurt being Frankfurt I’m surprised that we get dumped into the landside area of Terminal 1 at the base of the A and B piers. Frankfurt being Frankfurt we fight masses of people and find a “secret” security checkpoint which leads directly to the low A gates area. Germany being Germany the security check is quite throughout (read: helluva slow) and Gab gets some extra harassment over something in his hand luggage. Having done that we head towards the lounge, stopping to check the reg of our ride-to-be along the way:

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Oh, looks like a 15 minute delay - not too bad.

I guest Gab in to the Senator side of the LH lounge - the place is quite full (but nothing like the AV lounge the previous evening!):

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Good selection of booze - even Jonas would be happy here:

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The amazing beer machine:

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Some excellent German food with German beer:

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This lounge has excellent views - most of traffic at FRA passes by:

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Turkish in *A colors:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_2_10.jpg

Gabriel is a bit neurotic about heading to the gate in time - I keep telling him this isn’t Istanbul where he missed his TK flight but finally give in. There has been a gate change - the new gate is even closer to the lounge.

Looks like it still is D-AISF just as the computer showed - a new reg for my log:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_2_11.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_1.jpg

There are masses of people at the gate - but boarding hasn’t yet started. Well, this part of the A pier is always good for plane watching:

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10645 times:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_4.jpg

Soon enough boarding is called.

FRA - MUC
LH116
A321 D-AISF “Lippstadt”
Seat 30A
17.44 - 18.33

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_5.jpg

Final confirmation of the reg:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_6.jpg

While walking towards the back of the plane an FA is handing out chocolate bars:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_8.jpg

This bird has the old LH seats, giving a somewhat tighter legroom:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_7.jpg

Another A321 next to us:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_9.jpg

This Mercedes brought somebody in - must be a regular VIP and not a HON as they use fancier cars for them:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_10.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_11.jpg

Good load on this service, 85% or so. Luckily I get a block of three - Gab’s across the aisle on the window seat, he’s got a seat mate:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_12.jpg

The captain identifies him as a true Bavarian as his welcome speech starts with a loud “Grüss Gott” - he proceeds to explain that we are a bit delayed as the inbound flight arrived late. After push back we “will taxi to runway one-eight, take off and turn towards the Südost (or Southeast in old money)”. The flight will take a quick 30 minutes which should allow us to catch up some time according to the schedule...

Pushback is 29 minutes late. More nice reflections:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_13.jpg

Here’s one for all you octopus-lovers out there:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_14.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_15.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_16.jpg

Next time I’m at FRA I should be on a quest to catch one of these beauties:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_17.jpg

TAM duo:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_18.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_19.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Frankfurt_Departure_2_20.jpg

Take off is from 18 nine minutes after push back.

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It’s a nice quick flight with the setting sun giving beautiful views outside and the crew commencing a hurried drinks run.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_1.jpg

An unidentified airport:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_2.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_3.jpg

Another unidentified one, I’m getting sloppy:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_4.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_5.jpg

In no time at all MUC is visible on the distance and we commence our descent:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_6.jpg

The approach takes us towards the city before turning around and lining up for a landing on the 08s.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_7.jpg

Rural Bavaria:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_8.jpg

Heavy traffic on this Autobahn:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_9.jpg

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Landing is on runway 08L, flight time a lengthy 40 minutes.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_11.jpg

A jetway gate awaits us next to yet another company A321:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Approach_12.jpg

Munich Airport

With the delay we don’t have much time at our hands so we come up with a plan: first the lounge and then shopping on the way to the gate which is at the other end of the pier. So we head to the new LH Senator Lounge. This time there are far more people here than when I passed through in August.

Gab checks with the front desk if there would be any empty blocks of three but is informed that the plane is completely full. Well, my exit row window seat sounds good enough for me!

Food:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_1.jpg

Drink - in addition to this there is a staffed bar with any drink imaginable:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_2.jpg

Can’t help it - it’s free so must pig out:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_3.jpg

Plenty of people:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_4.jpg

FIDS:



Gab takes a shower just “because he can”. After that it is time to head for the gate, stopping at Travel Value for some stuff - it is kinda ironic that at BOG they refused to put bottles in a clear plastic bag and here they insist on it despite me specifically asking for them not to... such a waste!

The gate area is quite a zoo, once again I have the opportunity to snap at Gab for being so nervous and getting us here too early:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_6.jpg

Our ride, another A321 - can’t see the reg from here:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_7.jpg

Well, boarding is called almost right after we arrived. They announce over the PA that the flight is “completely full” (which turns out not to be true, there are some empty middle seats!) and thus only one piece of hand luggage is allowed and the excess ones should be gate checked - not that I see anybody enforcing this...

Sorry for the bad reflections but this ANA bird next to us was just so damn cool:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_8.jpg

MUC - HEL
LH2466
A321 D-AIRL “Kulmbach”
Seat 11F
19.53 - 23.27

D-AIRL it is - another new bird for me and quite a veteran for LH, having served them for over 17 years, not that it shows as the new interior makes it look very fresh:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_9.jpg

Kulmbach:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_10.jpg

I think this flight was originally scheduled to be an A319, but upgauging was apparently a good idea as it really is packed.

As mentioned I picked the front exit row window seat and yes, there’s unlimited legroom here:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_11.jpg

Notice how narrow the new seats are:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_12.jpg

Again the captain apologises for a small delay which is explained by the inbound flight from HAM being somewhat late and then the cleaners going AWOL. The flight time tonight will be 2h15mins.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_13.jpg

Push back is only 18 minutes late, quite efficient actually considering we boarded quite late. Unfortunately the take off queue for 08R is quite substantial, so we don’t take off until 20 minutes later.

Bye MUC, see you in December:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_14.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Munich_Departure_15.jpg

I spend most of this flight listening to music, reading and reflecting on this very succesfull whirlwind trip to Colombia. Before long the carts reach my row. This time we get handed this:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Final_1.jpg

It is some weird salad with greens, egg and cheese plus Thousand Island dressing (particularly nice) and two thick grissini (particularly awful):

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Final_2.jpg

Quite a nice dish actually - just perfect for this flight at least for me - I ate enough in the lounges to not be really hungry but still something fresh is nice. Plus they aren’t skimping on the Warsteiners either, so I end up drinking three during this flight.

Nice view over GDN and Trojmiasto:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Final_3.jpg

Right after this view the captain makes small speech, explaining the routing as MUC-PRG-POZ-GDN-KGD-TLL-HEL and expects to have us at the gate at HEL around half an hour late.

Cabin view from a toilet/beer run:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Final_4.jpg

I doze off for the last third of the flight - waking up for our approach. Landing is on 15 as expected at this late hour after a flight time of 2h15mins a bit over 20 minutes late.

A FC ATR in the FlyBE.fi livery - coming up in six days:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Final_5.jpg

We dock to a jetway next to this SAS Mad Dog - a shame it isn’t the same one that I started this trip with just four days ago:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Colombia_10_2011/Part_3/Final_6.jpg

A bit of a wait for our luggage to show up (and massive chaos in the small T1 luggage hall as the second to last FRA flight of the day arrived at the same time) - luckily all of them do just fine (well, it’s LH so everything works like a clockwork, rite?) and we head outside to catch a taxi to my pad for some genuine Finnish beer before crashing for the night.

Conclusions

This time the LH long haul experience wasn’t as impressive as on the outbound - the first meal was not up to much and they took far too long to serve it. Would’ve been better to do it right after takeoff to give people more time for sleeping. At least I got quite a good night’s sleep, so that’s always a bonus. LH short haul was consistently good as always, slight delays but they made the best of it.

And Colombia - an amazing country. The people were genuinely friendly and even if I didn’t particularly like Bogota that much Medellin certainly blew me away, and judging from Gab’s photos from the Caribbean coast and his stories from there it looks like another very nice place to visit. And then there’s the rugged Pacific coast and the jungle in deep south and and... see, I need to go back - many times!  


No (-t much) rest for the wicked - less than a week home and time to do another trip. This one features an inaugural flight on a new route on the inaugural day of operations by a new airline - Flybe Finland - could get exciting!. The route is HEL-UME-ARN-HEL. Stay tuned!

Happy contrails!


User currently offlinephotophil From Germany, joined Apr 2011, 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10370 times:

It's seems you made a really good deal there. Nice report as always...

Maybe I can help with at least on of the unidentified airport. I have no idea about the first one but the second ist Manching Airbase (IGS) near Ingolstadt. An airport jointly used by the German airforce (maintenance), EADS (Eurofighter production) and some General Aviation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingolstadt_Manching_Airport

PHILIP



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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10214 times:
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Grüss Gott Petteri!

Nice closing episode of you Colombia series. You have portrayed the country in a most positive way which I like very much. In fact, it was only a few years ago that Colombia was regarded as the 'world's most dangerous country' and the 'kidnapping capital of the world.' By now I think things have improved substantially and I believe you were very much at ease there (but are you not that everywhere  ).
LH did the job once again: a solid performance throughout, no ups/downs. For some reason I really like that A346 aircraft, don’t you?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
View out of my room window

That looks very much like your typical Belgian city street.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
quite nice as the departure tax is tens of dollars

So you did not have to pay that one?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
as there’s no way to get them through security at FRA

Oh how you wish the rules were the same in every world airport…

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but for some reason I agreed to do this

Huh? Were you not feeling well Petteri or were you still to do your good deed for the day? Still, your explanation makes sense  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I ask a passing FA about it and she explains that even though smoking onboard has been forbidden for quite a few years now it is still better to have ashtrays than have pax sneaking for a cigarette downstairs dumping them into the bin... I guess that makes sense.

It makes sense but I can imagine it puts passengers in a smoking mood.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
stopping to check the reg of our ride-to-be along the way

I always wonder where you find these things? And the screen says ‘… fûr Mittarbeiter’ and you definitely are not!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Next time I’m at FRA I should be on a quest to catch one of these beauties:

Is that the one to PMI, leaving at that ungodly hour, you are refering to?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
once again I have the opportunity to snap at Gab for being so nervous

Poor Gab. You 2 do got along, didn’t you??

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and two thick grissini (particularly awful)

Awful because they were not the lovely ‘crispy’ type?

Sultanils

[Edited 2011-11-03 03:27:50]


In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10190 times:

Agh, you beat me to it, i'm just about to finish writing my bit!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The stampede moves through a door to a walkway down to a lower level where there are lots of luggage - I guess checked luggage that looked suspicious at X-ray is here and people are asked to open them for the officials. Luckily mine nor Gab’s is nowhere to be seen.

Strange that they didn't make a call in the lounge for those people with "suspicious" bags to come forward

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Notice the LH postcards around the screen in front of us (only used for the safety demo) - a bunch of those ended up in my bag:

Interesting view for the flight

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After eating around half of the portion it is sleeping time again - and I manage to do quite well. I keep waking up every now and then needing to adjust my position, but apart from that I get over five hours of sleep before waking up for a toilet and water run.

Was it easy to get out without disturbing your seat mates?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I decide to bite the bullet and head there, asking the very nice Italian man if I could sit there for the landing - he agrees and I’m happy as a bee! Hello, sunshine:

Lucky for you

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Gab takes a shower just “because he can”.

Well, I can now ticket off another airport I'vehad a shower in! Tally so far is 10.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The gate area is quite a zoo, once again I have the opportunity to snap at Gab for being so nervous and getting us here too early:

Well, it's better to be there a little early than a little late!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26508 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9993 times:

Great report as usual loved the photos of Bogota. Always wanted to visit there someday .

LH look ok the meal was nicer than I thought you would get. Nice of you to give up your seat I hate middle seats and would rather an aisle in a such a situation. I just dont like being packed in. I also like to get up a few times so rather than disturb people I opt for an aisle.

Great bargain you got there all in all.

Look forward to the snow reports that Im sure are on their way these next few months  

Regards

Philip  



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9949 times:

Hey there P to the etteri! Great report! 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There’s also a funicular:

Are those telegraph poles or did th supply the car or whatever it is with electrical power to propel it down the railroad tracks so that it could carry people up and down the hill?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As is of course the coffee - Juan Valdez is their version of Starbucks:

Really see no point of Starbucks® playing the hard-to-get game. Just encourages ripoffs like that one, or the rubbish we have in Sweden. I really think it's about time they do like Mickydee's!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Gab goes off in an effort to find a ticket office to inquire about a paid upgrade

Well, an airline would rather have you killed then allow you to pay for an upgrade. Yield management is a bitch!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Helsinki, takes my rollaboard (it is perfectly fine as a carryon, but I decided to save myself some hassle and check it in), tags it with red Priority tags and hands me three boarding passes with the seats I picked from OLCI

Is this the first time you take advantage of this perk?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
they don’t have those clear plastic bag for packaging booze so I kiss (mentally) those $8 bottles of Rum good bye as there’s no way to get them through security at FRA.

That's too bad, so they don't have the liquid ban in Colombia...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Next we head off in search for the lounge - there should be a Diners Club -accessible lounge somewhere here

Surprised they didn't have any *G Lounge in that airport?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I try to pay the guest fee for Gab (which has to be paid with DC) but their credit card terminal refuses to work, so in the end he gets in for free.

Is this a new thing or what? Pretty stupid rule to be honest, since any card would do the trick anyway.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
not very premium loungish! I hope the new terminal will feature a much larger lounge for AV!

You see, when people like me start accessing lounges, that particular concept becomes ruined and watered out. Sad but true!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
J. has a Priority Pass

Sorry to say this, but complete waste of money! (Unless it's AMEX Plat)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wow, I’ve never been this close to a JetBlue bird:

I'm surprised! Thought you'd flown on all of them  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This bird has the T-Mobile hotspot logo, but according to Gab there was no signal so I guess the system was not turned on:

That's really interesting, I've always had in mind LH called the system air net or something...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I guest Gab in to the Senator side of the LH lounge - the place is quite full (but nothing like the AV lounge the previous evening!):

That's a poor looking lounge, no plans to refurbish this one soon? It is FRA after all, their hub, c'mon!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Some excellent German food with German beer:

Looks sehr gut! As if it was taken at a restaurant  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Good selection of booze - even Jonas would be happy here:

Hehe, well only one of those bottles is enough to keep me happy 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This Mercedes brought somebody in - must be a regular VIP and not a HON as they use fancier cars for them:

Really? Thought they all got the same cars. Guessing the man must've been flying in Y, since you can access the lounge in FRA as long as you have a LH F ticket valid for the day, ex ZRH, MUC also...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Drink - in addition to this there is a staffed bar with any drink imaginable:

If I've learned anything from you. Staffed bars = Finns don't like

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Plenty of people:

That lounge looks really really nice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I ate enough in the lounges to not be really hungry but still something fresh is nice.

Still nice to see LH serving something better then those sad looking sandwiches. But as you say, ALAS there's a lounge to pig out on, there's not much need for food to be served onboard.

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas



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User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1194 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9546 times:

Hola P.!

Great way to finish your TR to Colombia.

It was great to see the pictures of Bogotá, which looks nicer than expected. I have heard a lot of good things about Medellín, but Bogotá really surprised me.

I would like to go there one day and maybe taking the direct flight that does the BCN-BOG route several days a week would be a great option, as AV look very nice all along your trips.

LH seems quite nice in Y class. You were lucky in getting that middle seat on the bulkhead, I remember having one, window bulkhead on one of their B747s back from BOM some years ago and it was much more comfortable, allowing you to get up without disturbing anyone.

The catering did not look bad either, LH lounges at FRA are rather improved, but I especially like the SEN at MUC where I remember they had great desserts...

Salut! and look forward to reading your usual European hops.

Roger



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 677 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9326 times:

Hi P.

excellent conclusion to your trip to Columbia, enjoyed it very much. Good to see some pictures from Bogota, seems to be an interesting city. Usually here in Europe we don't get that many information on Colombia, and then mostly negative news, so good to read something about it from a travelers point of view. Your report really makes me want to go there as well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, it’s Swiss - then there’s nothing to be afraid of:

Are there any cable cars in the world not build by the Swiss?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Now I think I might’ve had a few Aguilas too many in the lounge or maybe I was feeling particularly chivalrous (or had an exceptional skill for clairvoyance!) but for some reason I agreed to do this.

Oh, that's certainly a difficult decision. Ok, it is a night flight, but still during take-off and landing you sure want to look outside. Fortunately for you you got a nice window seat on the approach so your kindness paid off at the end   ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(then again Gabriel thought it was the worst part of the meal...).

Well, good to have some different opinions on that. But I agree, didn't look too appetizing on the pic, but at least a generous portion.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
she explains that even though smoking onboard has been forbidden for quite a few years now it is still better to have ashtrays than have pax sneaking for a cigarette downstairs dumping them into the bin... I guess that makes sense.

Interesting, never seen that. But then I think the downstairs toilets are much more inviting for the smokers to try one, probably less likely to get caught. So indeed a good idea to have some ashtrays.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
that I realize that we are landing on the new runway - 07L, which was just opened.

Nice, what a cool way to come back to Europe.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
An unidentified airport:

The general aviation and military airport of Niederstetten.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Another unidentified one, I’m getting sloppy:

It is the airbase of Manching, near Ingolstadt.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Quite a nice dish actually - just perfect for this flight at least for me - I ate enough in the lounges to not be really hungry but still something fresh is nice.

Nice to get something healthy here. Looks much better than the mediocre pasta meal I got on my LH HEL-MUC flight last year.

Greetings
CaptainRed


User currently offlineBogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9268 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I can just about understand the grid-based address system but why do certain (but not all, not by a long shot) streets also have names:

Only the historic center has names and numbers (and a very few large avenues) which keep their name for historic purposes only.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Bogota’s Zona Rosa at night:

Did you not go to the T Zone within the Zona Rosa,? For the next time instead of going to a typical Hard Rock Cafe you should try Andres Carne de Res... http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelbl...es+Carne+de+Res+Chia?destId=363305

www.andrescarnederes.com
, hardly a more fun place in all of Colombia.
From your pictures you seem to have missed most interesting citylife in Bogota.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Good value for money - 44 EUR for the night with wifi and breakfast

May I ask why did you splurge into a nice hotel in Medellín and you stayed in Bogota in such rundown areas? Please feel free to contact me for further trips, I can assure you same prices for far better hotels, or at least much better locations.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The neighborhood around the hotel:

I was nice district in the 1930´s now famous for shops for car parts and old car mechanics.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Next we head upstairs to a rather nice and modern looking shopping area

I think the airport operator has done a good job in keeping the airport nicely looking even though this whole building will start to come to the floor as of July 2012.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There’s another X-ray for luggage, not sure what they are looking for

A direct flight between an important drug producing nation and an important drug consuming nation is always heavy on security.


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4373 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8874 times:

Nice report! Those new LH shorthaul seats sure do look slim!

AV's CEO has indeed commented on the lounges at BOG and on how they are just too small to accomodate the growing passenger numbers, but he has also said that there is nothing they can do as they have expanded as much as they can on the available space both at El Dorado and Puete Aéreo terminals, and that new lounges won't come until the new infrastructure is finished.

Loved the pictures of my city's downtown btw, but again, the area your hotel was in was quite sketchy.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
Really see no point of Starbucks® playing the hard-to-get game. Just encourages ripoffs like that one, or the rubbish we have in Sweden. I really think it's about time they do like Mickydee's!

Juan Valdez is nothing like a ripoff. Their coffee actually tastes very good and they charge you a decent price for the cup you buy. It is the store of the Colombian Coffee Grower's Federation, adding value to the product of half a million families who live form growing coffee in the country, and shares the profits with them. Starbucks just serves a load of crap bought at the lowest available market price on some vietnamese sweatshop/farm and put's on some nice music, and charges you 8 euros for it. In fact, Juan Valdez is so good that it has kept Starbucks from entering the colombian market after a good number of tries. Procafecol, the parent company, is a multinational with over 120 shops in Colombia, Chile, Ecuador, Panama, the US and Spain, plus plans to expand in Argentina, Mexico and Brazil, not some kind of poor local wannabe.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6408 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8773 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

Nice last installment of your Colombia series!

The historic district looks better than the area you were staying in and nice with the cable car to the mountain with a view. Somewhat reminds me of Victoria Peak in Hong Kong. Tood bad the weather got so bad.

Lounge was not very impressive but hopefully things will improve soon when the new terminal opens soon. I'm not a lounge person anyway since it takes time away from spotting.

LH seems okay but food seemed better on the outbound flight.

Great way to arrive back in FRA on the new runway !

Those seats on the LH 321s sure do look very narrow and combined with the bad legroom, the main reason why they are my least favorite aircraft that I have ever flown on.

Good that LH is doing so well on MUC-HEL that they have to up size to 321. I guess they have to accommodate all those people flying for free to Colombia.......

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly...T5, CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlinebyronicle6 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2011, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8633 times:

Thanks for the detailed Trip Report!
It was great as always!
I would love to try LH, might be flying with them next year on a 747-400 on the short KUL-BKK sector


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8277 times:

Hi FF!

Nice ending to this tripreport series of yours.

Again it looks like you had a nice couple of flights with LH.
That lounge in BOG sure looks packed to the brims! As you said, not really a premium-feel.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Notice the LH postcards around the screen in front of us (only used for the safety demo) - a bunch of those ended up in my bag:

That A380 pic is my wallpaper.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Next time I’m at FRA I should be on a quest to catch one of these beauties:

Ohh, nice. Hope to catch that one some day too. For sure a beauty and an interesting bird.

Looking forward to your flyBe report.

Martin


User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2520 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8135 times:

Thank you for your reports! I have thoroughly enjoyed reading them.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
They have this really great idea of blocking many streets for car traffic on Sundays and reserving them for bikes and pedestrians:

For me Sunday morning is the best time to be in Bogotá. When the ciclovía is on and for just half a day traffic is considerably reduced and pedestrians and cyclists can have the run of many streets.
I quite like La Candelaria, and you have some good pics there. At least it has some genuine feel to it, and so many visitors tend to stay around there. At night it has some cosy bars. Sadly locals tend to shun it in favour of the more humdrum suburban establishments.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The beef pieces are not very good, some cheap cuts, very chewy and not tender at all and the sauce tastes quite weird

I have hardly ever been satisfied with catering ex BOG. Worse time was on AF 4 yrs ago. Surprising too, as ex CDG it had been really good.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
And Colombia - an amazing country. The people were genuinely friendly and even if I didn’t particularly like Bogota that much Medellin certainly blew me away, and judging from Gab’s photos from the Caribbean coast and his stories from there it looks like another very nice place to visit

Well done for venturing beyond Bogota and so making your trip worthwhile.
Like you, many visitors to Colombia find Medellin a place where they feel at ease and many backpackers end up staying longer than they had anticipated. The number of hostels has surged in the last few years and as you experienced, new hotels are also springing up.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5013 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8007 times:

Servus, P.,

what a great time here to follow you´re final part around the Colombia trip.
Well done, also with good pictures.
I especially like the local examples, showing a good impression about Colombia, never been there myself.
Also interesting to follow the LH lounges, something for me also, you know.

Looking for the Flybe nordic story now.

Have a nice weekend,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Is there something new for the new countries?.
User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7851 times:

Hey FF. Loving the final part you put together.

Again some really interesting photos from Bogota. I particularly like the church with the alternating red stripe stonework.

Yes, things seemed to look a touch chaotic in the departure pictures, and that lounge is just mental.

You had me wondering what was going on at first when you switched to a middle seat? Your plan worked out very well  
Nice you got some shut eye, I still have to master this on a plane when sat upright.

Nice to see my friend G-MIDY in your FRA spotting photos.

I have flown the FRA-MUC or vise-versa a few times and always been down-gauged to a 320. Nice you hit the 321.. I need to find this type some more as only one example sits in my log.

Good looking lounges with enough booze to keep a Finn happy.

Thanks for this wonderful insight into your "fat fingered fare".
Cheers, Lee.


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2430 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7518 times:

Hello P,

I know I have said this many times before, but I cannot help it. Your inbound part has been driven from the throne. The best trip report ever of yours has gone to this one! Just brilliant! I especially like your scenery photos.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Salsa practice:

I assume you were joining them as well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Colombian food is very good:

You really make me hungry.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As is of course the coffee - Juan Valdez is their version of Starbucks:

Which one do you like most? Starbucks or Juan Valdez?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My room (Suryo, this room is featured on the hotel website!):

I believe you!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I try to go to check in but am stopped by a friendly girl who asks me how long I have been in Colombia and then directs me to an office to get a departure tax excemption stamp in my passport - apparently short enough stays qualify for this

So, three days are the maximum?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I try to pay the guest fee for Gab (which has to be paid with DC) but their credit card terminal refuses to work, so in the end he gets in for free.

What a nice coincidence!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Now I think I might’ve had a few Aguilas too many in the lounge or maybe I was feeling particularly chivalrous (or had an exceptional skill for clairvoyance!) but for some reason I agreed to do this.

It was the Aguila. No doubt about it!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I decide to try the beef which turns out to be a disappointment (OK, Gabriel claimed that he liked it so maybe it is just me):
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but the best part is the dessert - some sort of lemony curd thing which is very sweet and nice (then again Gabriel thought it was the worst part of the meal...).
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I liked the quiche, quite nice and the spinach was nicely done as well - this time Gabriel didn’t like it at all so looks like our tastes are quite different

A strong evidence that you cannot satisfy everyone’s taste bud.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I ask a passing FA about it and she explains that even though smoking onboard has been forbidden for quite a few years now it is still better to have ashtrays than have pax sneaking for a cigarette downstairs dumping them into the bin... I guess that makes sense.

A solution by experience.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The glow of the PTVs giving the cabin an eerie feeling:

Did you feel any presence of invisible entity as well?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I decide to bite the bullet and head there, asking the very nice Italian man if I could sit there for the landing - he agrees and I’m happy as a bee! Hello, sunshine:

I can imagine your excitement.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
…that I realize that we are landing on the new runway - 07L, which was just opened. Wow, didn’t really expect this at all - a VERY nice end to this sleepy longhaul flight.

Congratulations!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The Colombian guy and his girlfriend I traded places with thank me again for my kindness, well I we both won this time!

How sweet!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Plus they aren’t skimping on the Warsteiners either, so I end up drinking three during this flight.

So, have you been converted to a Warsteiner fan?


Thanks a lot for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineBogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7433 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

So, three days are the maximum?

90 days max.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Which one do you like most? Starbucks or Juan Valdez?

Juan Valdez, my obvious opinion. Give it a try whenever in Madrid, there are several locations there.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7253 times:

Hi P.


Another nice trip report back to Europe! I enjoyed reading your report! Even with a middle seat on the BOG-FRA segment you covered this segment well! I'm surprised to find D-AISF still with the older cabin seats instead of the NEK.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7081 times:

Hi P.,

great final part of your Colombia series!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Gab comes back having not found a ticket office anywhere and proceeds to check in, where he is duly informed that our fare class is far too low (if only they knew...) for any paid upgrade, so roughing it in economy it will be!

You guys pay almost nothing for the round trip and even try to upgrade. Get real!  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
These engines are a far cry from the hairdryers installed on the -200 and -300 series:

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
When he gets up he actually asks if I mind switching places with his girlfriend - who just happens to be in the middle bulkhead seat 26E. Now I think I might’ve had a few Aguilas too many in the lounge or maybe I was feeling particularly chivalrous (or had an exceptional skill for clairvoyance!) but for some reason I agreed to do this. Yeah, I absolutely hate middle seats, but then again it is a night flight with no view for most of it, I was planning on sleeping as much as possible and the bulkhead row has great legroom so maybe it wasn’t such a bad deal after all. The bulkhead middle block has only three seats versus the normal four so that’s a nice bonus as well.

That was very kind of you - I guess I wouldn't have agreed. You certainly made them very happy.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Notice the LH postcards around the screen in front of us (only used for the safety demo) - a bunch of those ended up in my bag:

Didn't they have different ones?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I ask a passing FA about it and she explains that even though smoking onboard has been forbidden for quite a few years now it is still better to have ashtrays than have pax sneaking for a cigarette downstairs dumping them into the bin... I guess that makes sense.

Interesting!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Most of the pax are still asleep. The glow of the PTVs giving the cabin an eerie feeling:

LH needs to introduce mood lighting - that makes a huge difference. Ah, I guess I'm spoiled a bit by certain Asian carriers...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I decide to bite the bullet and head there, asking the very nice Italian man if I could sit there for the landing - he agrees and I’m happy as a bee!

Nice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This Mercedes brought somebody in - must be a regular VIP and not a HON as they use fancier cars for them:

It's an S-Class - why wouldn't that be enough for a HON?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Here’s one for all you octopus-lovers out there:

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Rural Bavaria:

Oh come on, that's not rural Bavaria. One of Europe's largest airports is just a few miles away.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Sorry for the bad reflections but this ANA bird next to us was just so damn cool:

Of course it is, it's a 77W.  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Flybe Finland - could get exciting!

  

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
You see, when people like me start accessing lounges, that particular concept becomes ruined and watered out.
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
That's a poor looking lounge, no plans to refurbish this one soon?

Hmmm...


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6962 times:

Hi all,

Good to see so many comments, you very much! Sorry about the belated reply - I have been traveling quite a bit during the last week...


Quoting photophil (Reply 2):
Maybe I can help with at least on of the unidentified airport. I have no idea about the first one but the second ist Manching Airbase (IGS) near Ingolstadt. An airport jointly used by the German airforce (maintenance), EADS (Eurofighter production) and some General Aviation.
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
The general aviation and military airport of Niederstetten.
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
It is the airbase of Manching, near Ingolstadt.

Danke Schön, both of you!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
In fact, it was only a few years ago that Colombia was regarded as the 'world's most dangerous country' and the 'kidnapping capital of the world.' By now I think things have improved substantially

Yes, I know. That's why I'm particularly happy to spread the word. I certainly got a few lifted eyebrows and surprised comments when I told people about where I was going!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
For some reason I really like that A346 aircraft, don’t you?

Sure do. It is an impressive plane. Not up to the triple seven level of awesomeness, though.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
I always wonder where you find these things? And the screen says ‘… fûr Mittarbeiter’ and you definitely are not!

There are plenty of these terminals around the gate areas, marked as "Info". Usually they show you gate info, terminal maps and stuff but there are these buttons marked "Ops Inbound" and "Ops Outbound" that show information about inbound and outbound (gee, really?) planes, including type, registration, parking position, expected arrival/departure time etc.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
Is that the one to PMI, leaving at that ungodly hour, you are refering to?

Yep.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
once again I have the opportunity to snap at Gab for being so nervous
Poor Gab. You 2 do got along, didn’t you??

Yes we do, no problems.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 3):
and two thick grissini (particularly awful)
Awful because they were not the lovely ‘crispy’ type?

They just didn't taste very good to me.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
Interesting view for the flight

Well, I was watching my dreams most of the time, too dirty to share though. Plus airshow on the PTV.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
Was it easy to get out without disturbing your seat mates?
Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
I also like to get up a few times so rather than disturb people I opt for an aisle.

Yes, very easy since the Chinese girl was very petite like most of them are. I was free to enter/exit the aisle at will.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
Well, I can now ticket off another airport I'vehad a shower in! Tally so far is 10.

Hey, I added my very first one to that list yesterday!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Look forward to the snow reports that Im sure are on their way these next few months

My next one will feature a picture of snow - how's that!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
Really see no point of Starbucks® playing the hard-to-get game. Just encourages ripoffs like that one, or the rubbish we have in Sweden. I really think it's about time they do like Mickydee's!

What? I'm not sure what justifies you to call JV a "ripoff" especially if you've never visited a single on of them. The coffee was excellent (after all, it is Colombian dark roast, yummy!) and around a third of a going Starbucks price. Or a fifth if talking about the ARN and CPH *bucks....

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):

Is this the first time you take advantage of this perk?

What perk? I wouldn't call checking luggage in a perk?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
Surprised they didn't have any *G Lounge in that airport?

Nope. LH uses the AAdmirals Club for biz/first class passengers (and I guess HONs and maybe SENs too?). There isn't much Star presence there.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
I try to pay the guest fee for Gab (which has to be paid with DC) but their credit card terminal refuses to work, so in the end he gets in for free.
Is this a new thing or what? Pretty stupid rule to be honest, since any card would do the trick anyway.

Nope, it is not a new thing at all. Makes perfect sense - after all DC are trying to make money here by encouraging (or forcing) people to use the card.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 6):
If I've learned anything from you. Staffed bars = Finns don't like

Yes, we are a nation of self servers.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 7):
I would like to go there one day and maybe taking the direct flight that does the BCN-BOG route several days a week would be a great option, as AV look very nice all along your trips.

That's a very good idea, you definitely should do it! And yes, AV transatlantic sounds like a very nice option,

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
Your report really makes me want to go there as well.

Yes, another target accomplished!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
Are there any cable cars in the world not build by the Swiss?

I think there are a few on the mountains of North Korea.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
Nice to get something healthy here. Looks much better than the mediocre pasta meal I got on my LH HEL-MUC flight last year.

Yeah well that pasta meal is legendary - a friend of mine did HEL-FRA-AGP-FRA-AGP some years ago and got the same pasta dish on every leg of that trip!  

I still think it was a decent dish if you added a couple of sachets of pepper to it!

Quoting Bogota (Reply 9):
Only the historic center has names and numbers (and a very few large avenues) which keep their name for historic purposes only.

Gracias, suspected something like that!

Quoting Bogota (Reply 9):
Did you not go to the T Zone within the Zona Rosa,?

Not really - we were feeling rather under the weather (plus quite literally were under the rainy weather!) so we visited the HRC as I insisted on getting a shirt, grabbed some food nearby and went back to the hotel for a good night's sleep.

Quoting Bogota (Reply 9):
May I ask why did you splurge into a nice hotel in Medellín and you stayed in Bogota in such rundown areas? Please feel free to contact me for further trips, I can assure you same prices for far better hotels, or at least much better locations.

I think you just answered your own question! For Medellin I was originally booked at something completely different but thanks to local advice I rebooked to El Poblado and the HIX sounded like a nice hotel with a perfect location for our needs. It is rather hard to tell from the maps of Bogota and Medellin which area is good and which is not.

Thanks for the offer!

Quoting Bogota (Reply 9):
I was nice district in the 1930´s now famous for shops for car parts and old car mechanics.

Yes, you could certainly see that! Every other building looked to be a garage  .

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Great way to arrive back in FRA on the new runway !

Thanks, I think so too!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Those seats on the LH 321s sure do look very narrow and combined with the bad legroom, the main reason why they are my least favorite aircraft that I have ever flown on.

Hmm, actually the NEK equipped 321s are very nice (apart from the too few toilets) with OK legroom. But the ones with the old cabin are of course completely different, but those aren't narrow at all.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 11):
Good that LH is doing so well on MUC-HEL that they have to up size to 321. I guess they have to accommodate all those people flying for free to Colombia.......

Well, most of the pax to BOG and CCS opt to take a simpler routing via FRA as that's where the longhauls go from. But yeah, maybe they take up too much capacity on those flights forcing other people to fly via MUC  .

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 14):
For me Sunday morning is the best time to be in Bogotá. When the ciclovía is on and for just half a day traffic is considerably reduced and pedestrians and cyclists can have the run of many streets.

Yes, it was quite relaxing and different from the usual hustle and bustle. With a better and warmer weather would be a nice day for sightseeing and maybe an outdoor picnic somewhere...

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 16):
Again some really interesting photos from Bogota. I particularly like the church with the alternating red stripe stonework.

Yeah, a very nice looking building. There was a mass going on inside so we didn't venture beyond the foyer.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 16):
Nice you got some shut eye, I still have to master this on a plane when sat upright.

You'll learn it. It comes naturally with age, I think.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
I know I have said this many times before, but I cannot help it. Your inbound part has been driven from the throne. The best trip report ever of yours has gone to this one! Just brilliant! I especially like your scenery photos.

Hmm, care to enlighten me a bit about what makes this so special? I mean I certainly have my personal favorites, and this one isn't one of those - from my point of view it is a bit boring as the main flight was a night flight and the two other segments were just rather standard LH short haul hops around Europe? But yes, I'm very intrigued to learn why so I can keep improving my stuff? Thanks anyway, Suryo!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Salsa practice:
I assume you were joining them as well.

Nope.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Which one do you like most? Starbucks or Juan Valdez?

Hard to say as I've only been to JV a couple of times but probably spent a few months of my life in Starbucks  . But for real coffee taste and value for money JV wins hands down!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Did you feel any presence of invisible entity as well?

Nope, I'm not a superstitious person.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
So, have you been converted to a Warsteiner fan?

No, not by a long shot. But out of the drinks selection on LH shorthaul that is usually the best option - their wines are quite cheap and nasty and they pour them out of large bottles instead of giving you a mini bottle - me not like.

Quoting Bogota (Reply 18):
Juan Valdez, my obvious opinion. Give it a try whenever in Madrid, there are several locations there.

Hey, I didn't know that! Thanks for that info, will certainly try to look 'em up when I'm in Madrid the next time.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 19):
I'm surprised to find D-AISF still with the older cabin seats instead of the NEK.

It's quite an old bird so maybe it is going away son and they didn't bother spending any money on refurbishing it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
That was very kind of you - I guess I wouldn't have agreed. You certainly made them very happy.

I think it was a good choice in the end - not many views on take off due to the darkness but quite a nice seat for sleeping plus I managed to get that window seat for landing anyway. Best of all worlds!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Notice the LH postcards around the screen in front of us (only used for the safety demo) - a bunch of those ended up in my bag:
Didn't they have different ones?

I didn't see any others.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
LH needs to introduce mood lighting - that makes a huge difference. Ah, I guess I'm spoiled a bit by certain Asian carriers...

Good point - never been on a night flight or long haul with mood lighting!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
It's an S-Class - why wouldn't that be enough for a HON?

Is it? I thought it would look a little more classier, more sporty or something. That looks just a bit... boring, but I guess that's MB for you  .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Oh come on, that's not rural Bavaria. One of Europe's largest airports is just a few miles away.

Hey, there are fields and farms. That's rural in my book!  


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1424 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6942 times:

Hi P,

Good to read the final installment of your Colombian adventure. Another solid performance by LH, no complaints I'm sure for the price you paid!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, it’s Swiss - then there’s nothing to be afraid of:

That photo has made my day! Talk about vintage. And it's my adopted hometown on there   Shame the clouds came in though when you were enjoying the meal at the top.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A quick bout of shopping at the duty free store where they inform us that no, they don’t have those clear plastic bag for packaging booze so I kiss (mentally) those $8 bottles of Rum good bye as there’s no way to get them through security at FRA.

Even if they did have the sealed bags, they wouldn't pass security at FRA. At least they were honest with you; I've seen plenty of examples of airports (TLV being the worst culprit) who still sell booze to people, seal it in a nice little bag pretending the problem is solved, only for the passengers to have it confiscated here.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
In the lounge I also finally manage to break my passport - the photo page comes off. It’s been on the verge for a long time (ever since it went through the washing machine....) but now it finally happened. Oh well, lucky me that it wasn’t until now as I can always enter Europe with my ID card just fine!

Phew, lucky you. Imagine if that had happened on the way out!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
ask a passing FA about it and she explains that even though smoking onboard has been forbidden for quite a few years now it is still better to have ashtrays than have pax sneaking for a cigarette downstairs dumping them into the bin... I guess that makes sense.

It makes sense in a way, but isn't it encouraging people to break the rules if they see an ashtray clearly marked as such?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It is some weird salad with greens, egg and cheese plus Thousand Island dressing (particularly nice) and two thick grissini (particularly awful):

Nice idea, makes a change from the standard cheese rolls......

Snow in your next report?! Is it that time of year again?

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6912 times:

Hi FlyingFinn76

Good series of reports, good to read something out of the ordinary for once.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the expected A346 and a different one from the outbound

Always good to have a different reg on the way back.

Looking forward to the flybe.fi inaugural!
Cheers,
LXM83


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6408 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 21):
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Oh come on, that's not rural Bavaria. One of Europe's largest airports is just a few miles away.

Hey, there are fields and farms. That's rural in my book!

PlaneHunter lives in RURAL Bavaria, about two hours away from MUC. He's got first hand experience on a almost daily basis 
Not saying you are wrong, FlyingFinn, but there's rural and what might look like rural to you and me.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly...T5, CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
25 Post contains images Parton87 : Hello Petteri! Thanks for the nice follow up of your Colombian adventures! Again LH seems to offer a good product Nice with some pictures from Bogota!
26 signol : Hi FF, can't believe I missed your return leg report on the Columbian trip! There were some bus stops like that in Curitiba, Brazil, where the bus pul
27 ba319-131 : P, A good read as always, nice bit's of humour and some well remembered comments on other A.Netters outings, impressed at your memory, especially afte
28 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi all, Good to see more comments. Some (late) answers. Really? A nice coincidence indeed! Hmm, that sounds quite bad - ripping people off like that.
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