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Farewell LHI, Hello BA!Another Standard Alps Hop..  
User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Posted (2 years 11 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8343 times:

Buongiorno or Buonasera, dear readers.

First of all thanks for reading this trip report. I thought a while before publishing it, my finger on the verge of hitting the “Delete” button. At the end of the day, I thought, it was nothing more than a short European hop and I’m aware of the fact that, ever since I began writing, it’s always been something like that. And, obviously, many fellow A.netters have posted better LHI farewell dispatches than mine.

However, eventually, I decided to give the TR a chance as these flights marked two important shifts: my last flight with Lufthansa Italia and, more importantly, the beginning of a special relationship with British Airways, symbolized by the return leg on one of their 734’s. In order to save you all from another “Self Gloss...” thread I’ll cut the crap and go straight to the point: I’ve been chosen to work at BA as one of their “Leaders for Business” graduates and this trip constitutes a brief visit home before starting my job in the land of the Speedbirds... and yes, I’m damn proud about it!

But that is the future, at least from this TR’s perspective. We start in the early hours of October 17th at a particularly ungodly hour as your writer wakes up in his pad in North London. It hasn’t been an easy weekend, not at all. A tough master has ended, a very nice band of friends has dissolved and those two happenings needed some celebration, classic Jägerbomb-fuelled partying. But let us not make a fuss, there’s a plane to catch and yet another friend to bid farewell... this time for good.

However, Terminal 1. I’m no great fan of it and I won’t indulge in any more ranting. Today the refrigerated warehouse is more crowded than usual with lengthy queues at the Lufthansa/Austrian ticket office. The sight sends shivers down my back: some of them look undeniably Italian (the only ones wearing uber-glamorous suits and pissed off expressions) and I start fearing about the health of my LH3771, LHR-MXP, flight. The feeling is short-lived, though: a quick peep at the FIDS screen shows that it’s only the 8-something flight to Düsseldorf that has bitten the dust today. Pheeew...

As it always happen when I’m at T1 I head for the Tin Goose bar, grab a cup of coffee, a muffin and a table with view. A television broadcasts some images of yesterday’s ruffle in Rome where the usual bunch of black-clad idiots ruined a peaceful demonstration thanks also to the most inadequate minister of Home affairs in the last years. Better leave the images and the condemning anchorman to himself, I got some planes to watch and, guess what, a trip down Memory Lane to do.

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The blurry view from Tin Goose bar

Lufthansa Italia’s creation was announced on November 26th 2008, a very bold move by the German carrier which decided to base at MXP, left without a hub after Alitalia’s departure, six A319’s. The first routes were towards Barcelona, Paris, London, Bruxelles, Budapest and Bucarest and the plan was to attract on Malpensa the frequent fliers leaving Milan – Italy’s economic hub – towards some of the major European destinations.
Just a month after the beginning and some new destinations were announced, this time within Italy: Rome, Naples and – curiously – Bari. The fleet grew to eight A319’s, to be named after Italian cities in true Lufthansa fashion. Load Factors were said to be good, prompting Karl Ulrich Garnadt, Lufthansa Executive Vice President, to say that “After only four weeks, Lufthansa Italia has established itself successfully in the Italian market. Advance bookings for the coming months have developed so favourably that we are already in a position to expand our services.”


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BMI regional: soon to fly the Scottish flag?

Memory lane ends on a rosy panorama at about around mid-2009 when I notice two things: a) a BMI flight to Aberdeen has about 10 code shares, from United to Malaysian, and b) my flight has now a gate, no. 5 to be precise, a place I still had to explore in the terminal.

The gate 5 and its surroundings are like a breath of fresh air in the otherwise dull panorama of Terminal 1: there’s no carpet to be seen, and that’s a brilliant start. Then there’s plenty of natural light to hide the horrid fluorescent lights and their “office sun tan” effect. The only issue preventing me from trying to settle there is the fact that between me and the outer windows – with great views on a taxiway and some parked airplanes – there’s a corridor used by disembarking passengers. The feeling is quite odd, something like being at an aquarium watching the fishes swimming by (but I bet that any disembarking passenger would say the same if he could bother not to look at his mobile phone).

As it often happens with flights towards Italy a long-ish queue is already forming in the yet unmanned desk: it’s composed mostly by Italians plus some odd Englishman trying, probably, to get in the Italian mood. Feeling the impetus of herding I decide to grab my things and get into the line but, before I could find anybody with whom to complain about money changers and poor coffee an announcement roars on the intercom: families with infants, status holders and passengers from rows 15 to 25 are asked to get onboard in front of everybody else, including you my friend with your pink sweater and brown Hogan shoes.

Showing my 25F-labelled boarding pass as a Russian nouveau riche flashes the siren on his brand new Mercedes I overtake all the guys in the queue, only to be bounced back as some more families with toddlers and passengers with silver FF cards board before me and I’m allowed to pass only once the last of the precious J-classers has gone through.
To add insult to injury my last ride on Lufthansa Italia is on D-AKNG or “Varese”, my third ride on her: on the 8-strong LHI fleet I managed, on all my flights with the airline, to log just 3, placing my derrière on each of them at least 3 times. The only solace is that D-AKNG gave me my very first ride on LHI, that time towards Budapest: the Alpha and the Omega, what comes around goes around and all the rest of it.

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Bugger!

The airplane looks quite clean as I walk down the aisle and, even better, a nice-looking FA is standing at the end of the cabin, smiling at me and helping me settle down. We exchange some chit-chat during which I happen to know that every employee of Lufthansa Italia will be moved to Mother Lufthansa Deutschland, provided that they manage to pass a German exam, something that seems to be scaring my new friend a lot. I wish her all the best of luck: they’ve been giving us an excellent service during all these years, I tell her, and Lufthansa will do a great deal accepting them onboard. And I really mean that.

FlyingFinn’s last row rule works this time as the aisle seat is occupied by a girl and the middle seat remains empty, free for us to spread our things around. Load is a healthy 70% with some 5 passengers in J class, shame to see Lufthansa Italia going away now that they’ve finally started making some consistent passengers. Perhaps they should have invested a little bit more on viral marketing, too few people knew they were there, a thing that makes me think at Marketing Management, brand recognition, some university lessons and, before I know, I’m back on Memory lane as we leave the parking position and we taxi.


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Wouldn’t it be a trip report without the classic knee shot!

Things got worse, for Lufthansa Italia, from mid-2009. In my opinion too little has been done to steal passengers from Linate, the infamous “city airport” so loved by the inane politicians ruling Milan and Lombardy. Little advertisement around the city and in neighbouring Piedmont or Switzerland, frequent overlaps with Lufthansa mainline, very little commercial activity aimed at local businesses did not help the brand picking up enough recognition as it ought have been (I know from good sources that ENI, 5th oil&gas company in the world, based near Milan, was never targeted by Lufthansa Italia’s commercial department. Unicredit, one of Europe’s biggest banks, wasn’t either). Load Factors stopped growing and a first, major setback happened: on February 16th 2010, less than one year after its start, the Rome route was axed due to insufficient LFs. Meanwhile, competitors didn’t wait and see. EasyJet used its lower cost base to outplay Lufthansa (which, due to a nasty controversy against the VP union, had to man its Italian operation with personnel based in Germany) and Alitalia moved in as well: on March 28th 2010 its low-cost branch Air One started serving several Italian and Mediterranean routes, with LFs that appeared to be higher than Lufthansa’s.
These uncertainties were faced by the German management with a mixed approach. New routes were announced (such as the flights for Catania, Prague or some seasonal routes) then dropped or delayed (Catania and Prague, again). The focus of LHI seemed to shift from businesspeople to leisure, given the seasonal routes and several charters for the likes of Costa Crociere and other cruise lines. An attempt to Casablanca, Morocco, was made. All in all the strategy of Lufthansa Italia appeared to be increasingly less clear. Some rumours depicted the company as in dire waters, with the application for an Italian AOC at a standstill and the introduction of Italian cabin crew advancing at a snail’s pace.


Meanwhile little “Città di Varese”, after giving way to a much bigger BA 747, reaches the runway and roars down the tarmac at full steam. Oddly enough, while we were running down the runway, I had the impression that the plane, even before lifting off, was jinking left and right.


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Airport hotels aren’t renowned for the sobriety of their names but calling a two-stories high prefabricated lowrise “Skyline”, especially if located among equally dull and low buildings, is quite preposterous, isn’t it?

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These images are part of my daily commuting and routine... I’m lucky, I know

Despite this small incident we are soon in the air, past the BA HQ and then over the beautiful English countryside. I was hoping to fly over Hampstead as most of airplanes seems to do every day but this wasn’t the case: after a few turns we arrived over the sandy beaches of Southern England, managing to catch a glimpse of the Isle of Wight off Portsmouth.

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Waterside, on the left, and the ugly “Immigration Removal Center” on the right. Quite a harsh name even if it describes with cold perfection its perhaps brutal functioning

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Autumn in Southern England is quite mild if compared with my hometown.. However this is the Thames valley with its main character, the river Thames, engulfed in fog.


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Sea in view! That, I guess, should be Southampton harbour and the Isle of Wight


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The Channel

After a few minutes of the Channel we hit the Hexagone, flying straight over Paris as our gentle German captain and his Italian right arm said. Too bad that, as it often happens, la France is engulfed in clouds. I’m not envying the garçons and the filles là bas (ok I’m stopping it!) as it seems that today’s a quite miserable day in France, with typically Autumn-ish mist from which only the cooling towers of several nuclear power stations (there’s plenty of those!) emerge, each of them with its white plume of smoke.


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Quite a depressing day in France

Time to talk about the in-flight service, shall we? The Lufthansa trio (an all-Italian crew with two young females and one male pursuer) is already pushing the carts up and down the aisle. Being this morning a ready-to-drink yogurt and a pastry are served, plus some cold and hot beverages. As fellow A.netter RogerBCN has pointed out the Lufthansa Italia-branded paper trays have been dumped and everything, from cups to coffee mixers, carries the simple “Lufthansa” logo, an atmosphere typical of closing down free-for-all sales. Quite a sad feeling, one has to say. Sipping my favourite in-flight drink, apple juice, I stare at the ocean of clouds that has replaced the Ain river valley and think at Lufthansa Italia’s fall.

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In my opinion, the beginning of the end for LHI started on January 26th 2011. On that day the company announced that Mrs. Heike Birlenbach, LHI’s CEO, was to be recalled to Munich in order to take care of crew management at the Bavarian hub. Its role was to be taken by Herr Michael Kraus, boss of Air Dolomiti, who would be asked to bundle Lufthansa’s Italian operations in Italy in what, later, appeared to be a classic “Fix, sell or close”. At that time, though, most of us felt confident that Mr. Kraus would simply move EN from Verona to Malpensa, adding the five sleek Embraer E195 to the eight 319’s. Instead, two airplanes left Malpensa to Hamburg and, later on, Frankfurt. Routes to Madrid, Lisbon and Budapest were closed.
These closures acted as a sad prelude to what happened on May 23rd 2011 when Lufthansa Italia announced the end of all operations after October 28th, shifting its focus on catching Italian passengers through its German hubs. Politicians and SEA – Milan’s airports owner and manager – rushed to minimize the impact of the debacle, hopelessly trying to masquerade the truth: that their utter incompetence had just contributed to the departure of the only company willing to invest in the regional air transport system. Quite obviously, this being Italy, nobody felt the need to resign or to show a little bit of dignity.


It often happens to me that fantastic moments end up with an epic grand finale, something which manages, with its flamboyance and style, to overcome and sweeten the bitterness of a forthcoming end. Just to name two examples, think at the epic weekend-long celebration after the end of the master I was talking about in the beginning of this TR, for example; or Kasabian’s marvellous L.S.F. after a gig I wished could last forever. This flight is no difference and here is why: we’re getting to the Alps.

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The clouds is engulfing the valleys, leaving the peaks bathed in the golden morning sun; snow and grass, already showing the colours of autumn, looking like if some giant has spread honey on them. I enter a photo-shooting frenzy (much to the amusement of my seatmate), some of which products you can witness here. It’s a stunning scenery, a final present from Lufthansa Italia before shifting into a hazy Padania and, for the last time, hitting MXP’s tarmac.


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Stay tuned for the return!

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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8133 times:

Nice, poetic report, although you finished rather abruptly

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
We exchange some chit-chat during which I happen to know that every employee of Lufthansa Italia will be moved to Mother Lufthansa Deutschland, provided that they manage to pass a German exam, something that seems to be scaring my new friend a lot.

It's strange that they NEED to speak German seeing as LH have some crews (admittedly working on Chinese and Japanese route) that only need to speak English and their "local" language.

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
on February 16th 2010, less than one year after its start, the Rome route was axed due to insufficient LFs.

I'm surpised that they FCO-MXP didn't work - I guess they had some high fares. When I flew the route in 2009 the train and AZ were both really expensive, so I went with U2 in the end.



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User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7687 times:

Hi Fabrizio,

First off, there is no such thing as a "standard Alps hop", well not for me anyway!   Different weather conditions, seasons, time of day - they make it different every time. You could cover every flight you've ever taken between MXP-LHR and I still wouldn't get bored.

Secondly, many congratulations on your job at BA, it sounds very exciting and I hope you'll be very happy.

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
I thought a while before publishing it, my finger on the verge of hitting the “Delete” button.

I'm very glad you didn't, I particularly like all the background detail to LHI you provided us with.

I can understand your frustration at getting a familiar aircraft but as you said, I think it was a way of saying arrivederci to you.

And as for the crossing of the Alps - that dusting of snow on the peaks is when I find them their prettiest. The autumn lighting and colours beat every other season. Do you know what the exact routing was?

Thanks for posting & happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7241 times:

Hi Fabrizio!

Another great report of yours.

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
I thought a while before publishing it, my finger on the verge of hitting the %u201CDelete%u201D button. At the end of the day, I thought, it was nothing more than a short European hop and I%u2019m aware of the fact that, ever since I began writing, it%u2019s always been something like that. And, obviously, many fellow A.netters have posted better LHI farewell dispatches than mine.

I'm glad you did post it.

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
and yes, I%u2019m damn proud about it!

You should be!

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
Sipping my favourite in-flight drink, apple juice

I think I agree with you there!

Looking forward to the next part!

Martin


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7030 times:

Hi Fabrizio,

I am glad that you refrained from pushing delete button and posted your LHI experience at the end. There have been many reports about LHI, true, but none is equal. Each installment was written from a certain point of view which made it an experience of its own, even if you happened to be on board of the same flight with someone.

So, thank you for writing and I am looking forward to reading what is coming up, oh and you have absolute right to be proud of your Speedbird employment.

Best wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6948 times:

Hi Fabrizio,

A very nice report of your swansong to Luftwaff.. sorry, LuftHANSA Italia. Great shots of old Blighty in those gorgeous autumn colors and of course the shots of the Alps are second to none, very nice of you to post this report instead of deleting it.

I also like the way you interwove the bits and pieces about LHI's (sadly very short) history into your narrative, great stuff.

It is never a happy occasion to see a carrier stopping their operations (well, maybe Spanair and Blu-Express wouldn't be missed, but apart from those), hopefully Air Dolomiti and Mama Lufthansa will do something to compensate, if nothing else then atleast double or triple flights to Malpensa (and Linate).

Like Gabriel said, this report ended a little abruptly, but hopefully the return part (from TRN, by any chance?) will make up to it!

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
FlyingFinn’s last row rule works this time as the aisle seat is occupied by a girl and the middle seat remains empty, free for us to spread our things around.

Why thank you for the mention, but I have to give credit to Markus where credit is due - this custom has been adopted from him!


User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6875 times:

Hi Fabrizio,
Thank you for a very nice story! You should be aware it was a very enjoyable read and that you should keep away from the "delete-button" also in the future!  

What made this report even more interesting were the insights to the Lufthansa Italia background, some really interesting details!

I can only agree that it is very sad to see Lufthansa Italia go! I've flown with them once domestic in Italy, taking advantage of their 29 EUR one way fares and enjoyed every moment of it. It is good to see LH learning something from LHI as they have now introduced some really affordable one way fares for example on the new routes from Berlin.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Blu-Express wouldn't be missed, but apart from those)

Thanks for this, P! At least I hope they will be operating for some three more months so that I can catch my flight with them.

Finally, Fabrizio, I hope you enjoy working at BA!

Regards,
717Flyer


User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6813 times:

Hi everybody, thanks for reading!

Gabriel,

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Nice, poetic report, although you finished rather abruptly

Thank you for dropping some lines, much appreciated! Well, I thought to end the outbound part with some kind of tragic ending but I realise now, reading it, that it was quite abrupt indeed. However, the continuum wasn't nearly as interesting as the parts before, just some passport check, recollection of my luggage, some minutes spent waiting for a bus and then a ride through Novara province, that kind of place where youngsters are called Allen or Elvis and think that the coolness of a car is measurable by counting the number of neon lights fitted to it!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
It's strange that they NEED to speak German seeing as LH have some crews (admittedly working on Chinese and Japanese route) that only need to speak English and their "local" language.

Well - I shouldn't say that now that I work for BA - but one of my first targets in my job-seeking quest was, indeed, Lufthansa. There were a couple of General Management programmes available but the conditio sine qua non was to be fluent in German (and I reckon that being able of asking for a beer isn't enough!).

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
I'm surpised that they FCO-MXP didn't work - I guess they had some high fares. When I flew the route in 2009 the train and AZ were both really expensive, so I went with U2 in the end.

FCO-MXP was a bloodbath because most of the clientele is business oriented, more interested in frequencies and timings over prices. This is why the LIN-FCO route was so profitable being Linate much closer to Milan than Malpensa. However, with the completion of the high-speed rail network, train is now sucking all traffic away (and if you're lucky enough you can still find 40% discounted tickets on those routes). Personally, with all my love for planes, I don't see why anybody should still fly from Milan to Rome now that the train takes 2h30 to get from downtown to downtown.

Hello there Hannah!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
First off, there is no such thing as a "standard Alps hop", well not for me anyway!   Different weather conditions, seasons, time of day - they make it different every time. You could cover every flight you've ever taken between MXP-LHR and I still wouldn't get bored.

Yes, you're right... at least this is what true mountain lovers think! I really miss seeing the silhouette of the Alps at the end of an alley, I think I'd enjoy London a lot more if only they could replace, say, Hampstead with a couple of decent peaks!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
Secondly, many congratulations on your job at BA, it sounds very exciting and I hope you'll be very happy.

That's very kind of you. I'm very happy indeed, and quite interesting under a cultural point of view as well. I'm understanding why people consider the UK something different from the rest of Europe... it's extremely interesting and enriching, I think.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):

I can understand your frustration at getting a familiar aircraft but as you said, I think it was a way of saying arrivederci to you.

Indeed... it was just my "nerdy" side popping out for a couple of minutes or two.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
And as for the crossing of the Alps - that dusting of snow on the peaks is when I find them their prettiest. The autumn lighting and colours beat every other season. Do you know what the exact routing was?

Autumn colours in the Alps are gorgeous - late October/early November, before snow time, is my best period for hiking. No noisy tourists with their SUVs with Milan numberplates, just silence, fresh air, stunning colours and animals. I bet you know what I'm talking about!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 2):
Thanks for posting & happy flying
Infodesk   

Thank you, will do!  

Hello Martin, thanks for reading!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
Hi Fabrizio!

Another great report of yours.

That's very kind, glad you liked it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):
Hi Fabrizio,

I am glad that you refrained from pushing delete button and posted your LHI experience at the end. There have been many reports about LHI, true, but none is equal. Each installment was written from a certain point of view which made it an experience of its own, even if you happened to be on board of the same flight with someone.

Hello Suryo!

Thanks for reading and thanks for the useful tips on Facebook about Amsterdam Schipol... I'll post the next instalment of this TR in a minute, it seems we've been flying on the same airplane recently!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 4):
So, thank you for writing and I am looking forward to reading what is coming up, oh and you have absolute right to be proud of your Speedbird employment.

Thank you!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Hi Fabrizio,

A very nice report of your swansong to Luftwaff.. sorry, LuftHANSA Italia. Great shots of old Blighty in those gorgeous autumn colors and of course the shots of the Alps are second to none, very nice of you to post this report instead of deleting it.

Hi Petteri,

glad to know that Airliners Trip Report's godfather  D) liked my story.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
I also like the way you interwove the bits and pieces about LHI's (sadly very short) history into your narrative, great stuff.

I thought it could be cool to add some of the past history since most information wasn't published in any language different from Italian and perhaps some forumers might be interested in reading a couple of passages in LHI's drama.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
It is never a happy occasion to see a carrier stopping their operations (well, maybe Spanair and Blu-Express wouldn't be missed, but apart from those), hopefully Air Dolomiti and Mama Lufthansa will do something to compensate, if nothing else then atleast double or triple flights to Malpensa (and Linate).

Well, it seems that LH is boosting connections and capacity to and from its hubs and focus cities, that's pretty much it. Now, unfortunately, flying from Northern Europe's main airports to Malpensa has become much harder with LHI gone, Air One focusing on the Med and AF-KLM retreating to LIN (violating a bill that restricts capacity on Linate, but everyone does that). I hope BA won't join them otherwise I don't know how will I get home from London!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Like Gabriel said, this report ended a little abruptly, but hopefully the return part (from TRN, by any chance?) will make up to it!

Hope it will!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 5):
Why thank you for the mention, but I have to give credit to Markus where credit is due - this custom has been adopted from him!

Ah, I missed that part... So the credit goes to Markus/Flieger67!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):

Hi Fabrizio,
Thank you for a very nice story! You should be aware it was a very enjoyable read and that you should keep away from the "delete-button" also in the future!  

Hi 717F!

Thanks for reading, I'm glad you liked it. I promise I'll keep my fingers well away from "Shift" and "Delete" in the forthcomings months and years!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
What made this report even more interesting were the insights to the Lufthansa Italia background, some really interesting details!

Good, that's precisely the reason why I decided to introduce them.  
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
I can only agree that it is very sad to see Lufthansa Italia go! I've flown with them once domestic in Italy, taking advantage of their 29 EUR one way fares and enjoyed every moment of it. It is good to see LH learning something from LHI as they have now introduced some really affordable one way fares for example on the new routes from Berlin.

I hope this habit will catch on and not only from Berlin, some flights via, let's say, Dusseldorf are simply crazy!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
Finally, Fabrizio, I hope you enjoy working at BA!

Yes, I'm quite enjoying it! Thank you!


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6804 times:

Hi Fabrizio,

thank you, I love your writing style, and some great pictures too!

Glad to hear you're enjoying working at BA, I applied myself some years ago to the IT stream but no joy. Still, I get to fly occasionally with work at the moment (more or less annually, with U2 STN-MUC).

Like others, I thought the dreaded A.net scythe had trimmed the end off your report, it seems to have had the desired effect anyway, to be dramatic!

I'm eagerly awaiting your return, I'll be heading to northern Italy myself in a couple of weeks (1st leg is on BA).

Thanks again,

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6797 times:

My Italian stay lasted slightly more than two weeks and was filled with all the pleasantries that you’d expect from a comeback after a couple of months of absence. It was utterly, completely and deliciously normal so I won’t bore you in posting pictures or telling stories; let’s fast forward to the day of the departure.

I was particularly eager to try BA for some reasons: first, I wanted to savour the way my future colleagues were doing what their newly re-established USP said they stood for, i.e. “To fly, to serve”. Second, I was about to log the 737-400, a new one for me and another step in my personal, nerdalicious quest for trying out every type of 737 out there. Finally, I really wanted to try again BA after the good impression they gave me on my 767 ride from Arlanda earlier this summer.
So, could the interest for such a short hop be increased even further? Yes if, with appropriate timing, BA sends you a veeeeery intriguing e-mail offering an upgrade to Club Europe for merely 59€. I’m not the typical spendthrift and similar offers in other fields – clothing, or hotels – doesn’t make my heart skip a beat in a million years... but this did. So, like for my first flight with Malév this summer, I decided that the point of the bus should be.

Now, fast forward to the day of departure. I’m in Torino, ready to board the bus for Caselle airport. I’m not a big fan of it – with a fast speedway at disposal the route passes through all the typical, sleepy and thanks-God-I-don’t-live-here cities dotting Torino’s hinterland and it takes quite a lot of time, but after 50 minutes it’s gone. Torino’s Airport – or Turin Airport as it’s written on its glassy façade, always gives me the “small town boy” feeling. It’s petit, it’s cosy, it’s pomp and circumstance on one side and hilariously patched together on the other... in a nutshell, I love it. Given the 150th anniversary of the unification of this troubled nation (a recurrence really felt in Turin and in the whole Piedmont) a part of the check-in lounge ceiling has been decorated with a nice tricolore. All the rest is normal administration, even if the traditional Fiat car on show has changed from a Punto Evo to a Freemont.

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Airside is almost empty with the last flights of the day bringing back to Rome, Munich, Naples and London the last businessmen and women.
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The view from the terminal: AF Babybus taxing prior to its departure to CDG, I guess

Given my new posh status up to the Alitalia “Welcome” Lounge I head, located upstairs on the right.

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The entrance. Is “Welcome” the name or, well, just “Welcome”?
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Inside. Sorry for the blurry pictures, I’ll get a camera with stabilizer next year, I promise!
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The first impression is quite nice: the area might be very small and with limited amenities but it has been revamped and it’s quite cozy, offering what could be a good view of the tarmac if only it wasn’t raining. However, though, there’s no bathroom (!), the bottle opener has been chained to a metal ring and it’s unusable (seriously guys, you’re flying J class and yet nick bottle openers? What happened to the real gentlemen?) and the Tv broadcasting Sky News isn’t turned on silent. Wifi seems to be working though.

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What the lounge lacks in amenities it makes up in view! (even if there’s nothing to look at)
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Times goes by with a good book, some drinks and a couple of sandwiches taken from the fridge of the small food corner, a couple of baguettes filled with prosciutto crudo and tasty cheese with not a single drop of those horrid sauces that seem to be required by law in every sandwich filling sold within the UK boundaries. A nice diversion from the usual business class routine is offered, for the few Italian speaking passengers today, by the lady at the lounge desk as she starts an heated discussion at the phone with her mum who had called her to enquire about the colour of the collants she was supposed to buy at the Porta Palazzo market in downtown Turin. Ah, Caselle: it might pretend to be a classy business airport with a classy business lounge for serious businesspeople but, scratch a little bit, and there you are with an all-Italian trattoria feeling. Some might find it despicable, some might argue – with good grounds, of course – about when those messy Italians will finally go and do something properly but I can only be amused by it.

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Parking lines at TRN: I bet that the closest stand, designed for the likes of 777’s and 747’s, has never been used at all
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The rooms start filling up with those called by marketers “Air warriors”, professionals of short-haul European flying. They aren’t here for pleasure and the number of Blackberries ringing and buzzing is an additional proof of this: all around me is a continuous humming of post-meeting briefings, information regarding valves, machinery, wine and Nutella (it’s Ferrero country, after all). The lounge doesn’t seem to feel very private anymore and, when I realise that the noise is making me read the same line for the third time in a row, well, then it’s about time to leave.

Paradoxically most of the main seating area downstairs is empty and very quiet with the last flights of the day boarding or close to do it. Hordes of businesspeople are still populating the espresso bar making the most of its low prices in booze and coffee but the extra-Schengen area is remarkably quieter.

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Quiet Thursday evening at – wait for it – Sandro Pertini Turin International Airport

The load today seems quite healthy with mostly Britons coming back from either business trips or tours of Langhe (at least judging from some of the comments regarding fine wine cellars in Dogliani and a “divine” beef in Cavour). Soon enough the girls at the desk call the boarding by row numbers, from the back of the bus on, with families with kids being invited to pass through first (and there’s indeed a nice family with three very small and very cute kids seated in a couple of baby buggies that must have been taken straight out of “Pimp my pushchair” by the look of them). Club Europe passengers, as the girl at the mic says, are invited to board “at any time”.

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Seems that somebody didn’t have a good relationship with the airport’s vending machines up to the point of writing “Ladri”, thieves, on them.

Not knowing exactly what “at any time” meant and not willing to exhibit myself in the most inglorious of the queue jumps I decided to wait a little further and, like Detective Frank Drebin said, before I could utter “straggle” there was almost nobody left. Time to leave, see you in December Italy!

Running through the airbridge I realise that today’s 734 is a quite well known guy, at least for us A.nutters: with its pointy red nose G-DOCX was the plane that took our Suryo this summer to Gatwick from Amsterdam not long ago... Small world, isn’t it?

My seat today is 4F and I have the whole row of three for me to spread out. The load in J is not bad, with two Italian lawyers in row 3 (and whose misadventures with some insurance companies keep me entertained for a while), one colleague of theirs from the US and some other fellas.

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Quite a noisy knee shot picture, but could I miss it?
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The most notable passenger, though, is seating on seat 4A and looks like the photocopy of Senator Davenport out of Air America if only he didn’t die in 2005. Well, I guess that Air America and The Naked Gun are enough as cinematographic referencing for a whole trip report so I’ll cut the crap and get on with the story.

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Working on the stand. The weather and my scarce skills made for a series of horrible pictures, so I’ll post just two more of them
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The crew today consists of three FAs, two males and one female and two pilots, Mike and Andy. While they do the classic talking (route, time to arrival and so forth) our pursuer comes to collect coats but doesn’t offer us a drink before take-off. The courtesy is, however, impeccable. Pushback occurs some seconds later, hence perhaps the lack of any liquid being given on the ground, and departure follows suits in a pitch black and rainy evening.

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Title of the photograph: “A lonely Punto in the rain” 

Some nice condensation follows faithfully our wingtips as we leave an area of Italy that’s bound to receive between 450 and 600 mm of water in four-ish days, causing the death of six people only in Genoa. My hometown, usually an hotspot for flash floods and proper, big-style and hair-rising muddy waves luckily is spared that treatment which we experienced, instead, in 1994, 2000, 2006 and 2008. But that’s the future, today is November the 3rd and the pursuer is coming with hot towels followed suit by two packets of nuts (ready salted but not really, actually!) and some drinks. I ask for some tonic water and, in true BA style, two small cans of Schweppes follow suit with a nice glass and the complimentary ice and lemon slice.

Dinner gets ready as soon as we fly over Geneva, obviously hidden under a think patch of low clouds: the choice, unlike on Malév where I was given only one dish, is between beef casserole and the all-time classic Tikka Masala, pillar of the British cuisine. Most of my fellow premium passengers opts for the beef but I, eager to get as integrated as possible into the mood, I ask for the Masala. Didn’t go that far to order a can of Stella, though...

The food is delightful even if I’d love my Masala to be that bit extra spicy, dribbling-nose-and-watery-eyes point if you know what I mean, but all the rest – warm roll, cheese, small lemon curd dessert – is flawless. If only the winds could stop acting like a giant phone put on “vibration”... At least my efforts at photoshooting would be slightly better.

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I think that snapping photos of your meals is somehow odd but a trip reporter shouldn’t forget this small but crucial aspect of a dispatch! Sorry for the poor quality, it felt like we were flying over a Belgian pavé

The meal is followed suit by some warm drinks, whom I refuse, and a quick round at duty free. I’m expecting the guys wearing the Speedbird logo to go home empty handed but both the lawyers and Senator Davenport have a go at it. Time for a quick round at the loo and we’re already pointing downwards. The weather has definitely improved over Ol’ Blighty, with plenty of lights pointing streets, houses, buildings and some very well lit football pitches. Moments later we land in London Gatwick Airport, docking next to a company’s 772. After some seconds we are rushing through the airport, towards the passport control barrier and, finally, the baggage carousel. An hour and a half of Easybus misery later I eventually open the door of my new flat... My life as a student has ended, bring the new challenges on!

Hope you enjoyed reading, sorry if it felt like a repost of a previously posted before. Drop me a line if you’ll feel like, it’ll definitely make me happy!

Fabrizio

[Edited 2011-11-26 08:39:06]

[Edited 2011-11-26 08:47:44]

User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6768 times:

Buena sera Fabrizio,

Thank you for the follow up. I really enjoyed reading.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
However, though, there’s no bathroom (!), the bottle opener has been chained to a metal ring and it’s unusable

No bathroom is a letdown at an airline home lounge, but chained bottle opener is just schocking!

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
Running through the airbridge I realise that today’s 734 is a quite well known guy, at least for us A.nutters: with its pointy red nose G-DOCX was the plane that took our Suryo this summer to Gatwick from Amsterdam not long ago... Small world, isn’t it?

It is. How exciting to know we have been on the same plane, even it was not at the same time.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
The crew today consists of three FAs

Hmm, could BA only assign a fourth cabin crew member on short flights like AMS?

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
Didn’t go that far to order a can of Stella, though...

Why? Stella was great!


Best wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6761 times:

Excellent continuation Fabrizio, thank you! I shall be doing the same route in reverse in a few weeks, though I declined the upgrade offer (I did pre-pay for access to the No 1 Lounge though at Gatwick though!).

I remember your remarking about the TRN airport bus, though I'd rather a combination of train and tram  

All the best

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1746 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6649 times:
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Hi Fabrizio,

A very nice yet symbolic report (at least from your point of view) and a warm welcome to the working class heroes club.
Maybe the symbolism would've been even stronger if you had chosen your beloved flag carrier Alitalia iso LHItalia. But you are forgiven, they both go by 'Italia' so you're pardoned   Too bad you have chosen that particular reg already for the 3th time. I mean: how difficult can it be to send in a reg you haven't flown yet?

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
and yes, I’m damn proud about it!

So you should? Only time will tell my friend  

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
my friend with your pink sweater and brown Hogan shoes.

Yes, these people as well are allowed to travel...

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
A lonely Punto in the rain

Sure it was a Punto? Guess I shouldn't argue with you on this, since you are an Italian 'pur sang' I think you'll notice the difference between a Punto and a Fiesta!

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
My life as a student has ended, bring the new challenges on!

That's the spirirt. I wish you a good start in your working life!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6612 times:

Hi Fabrizio,

Good to see the return trip up so soon, although you might want to think about posting these as separate reports - I bet a good number of readers of first part (almost including me) don't realize that you've added another installment as part of the same thread!

Good for you to try BA Club Europe and for that cheap price it is almost a no-brainer. They do offer a very nice product with good meals, plenty of champers and that lovely reserved, but still extremely caring and friendly upper class British service you surely will learn to love during your upcoming years at honeypot land.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
I’m not a big fan of it – with a fast speedway at disposal the route passes through all the typical, sleepy and thanks-God-I-don’t-live-here cities dotting Torino’s hinterland and it takes quite a lot of time, but after 50 minutes it’s gone.

Ahh, that's the bane of airport buses in many places. If you try to save some money instead of taking the "express" or whatever bus lines you end up doing things like this. I still have flashbacks from that time in Dublin when I decided to be cheap and skip the 747 Airlink in favor of some local bus that sure was cheap, but took around 1.5 hours to reach the airport, running through such prestigious neighborhoods as Ballymun. Seriously at one point I think around half of the passengers in the bus were teenage mums with their "lust of the moment" offspring...

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
Given my new posh status up to the Alitalia “Welcome” Lounge I head, located upstairs on the right.

How come TRN has such a nice lounge where NAP has none?!!? Yes, still haven't fully gotten over my experiences at that particular airport...

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
with not a single drop of those horrid sauces that seem to be required by law in every sandwich filling sold within the UK boundaries.

Hmm, must be a cultural thing - I absolutely love the UK sandwiches because of the abundance of various tasty sauces!

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
all-time classic Tikka Masala, pillar of the British cuisine. Most of my fellow premium passengers opts for the beef but I, eager to get as integrated as possible into the mood, I ask for the Masala.

Ahh, interesting choice for BA, but yes, I'd done the same. I just love curries, especially the British renditions of them. Which reminds me that it's been almost half a year since I last set my foot in my favorite European country, starting to have some withdrawal symptoms here! Luckily London is on the cards for January!

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
I think that snapping photos of your meals is somehow odd but a trip reporter shouldn’t forget this small but crucial aspect of a dispatch!

Well, I've developed quite a habit for photographing meals nowadays, and no, it is not limited to just airplane meals!

But then again I'm crazy, so what do you expect?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 10):
Why? Stella was great!

Suryo, Stella has a certain reputation. And not exactly a nice one.


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6584 times:

Hi Fabrizio!

Great continuation, thanks for posting it so quickly!

Nice that you got that offer with the cheap upgrade. I'm flying LHR-ARN with BA in January, and got an offer to upgrade to Club Europe for 69GBP, like you, I couldn't resist it!

Too bad about that weather in Turin. That lounge didn't sound too good... Atleast it looked stylish!

Martin


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6596 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6465 times:

Ciao Fabrizio!

Thanks for a couple of nice trip reports !

The meal on the return on BA looks very good, It's great working for an airline (speaking from personal experience) and I hope you'll start travelling a lot more now and do more trip reports!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Quoting akhmad (Reply 10):
Why? Stella was great!

Suryo, Stella has a certain reputation. And not exactly a nice one.



I haven't tried Stella for a long time but I used to like it quite a bit. Clearly much better than Heineken and Beck's. I guess my taste buds are not the same as most people from the Nordic countries and that's just one of many reason's why I'm here and not there. Food here is great!

The777Man

[Edited 2011-11-26 22:52:31]


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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6390 times:

Hey Fabrizio!

Nice continuation to your first part. Looks like BA Club is still offering a decent service. Good luck with your new job at the World's Favourite Airline!



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User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6309 times:

Hi everybody!

Thanks for reading and posting comments, that made my day.

Quoting signol (Reply 8):

Hi Fabrizio,

thank you, I love your writing style, and some great pictures too!

Hi Signol,

thank you for reading and for your compliments, much appreciated!

Quoting signol (Reply 8):
Glad to hear you're enjoying working at BA, I applied myself some years ago to the IT stream but no joy. Still, I get to fly occasionally with work at the moment (more or less annually, with U2 STN-MUC).

That's a pity! But look at the other full half: you don't have to deal with me when I can't access something on the Intranet (i.e. almost daily!). Flying for work is true fun, I've been doing a daytrip to Barcelona last week for this purpose and, despite feeling absolutely knackered at the end, it was a joy.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 10):
Buena sera Fabrizio,

Thank you for the follow up. I really enjoyed reading.

Hey Suryo,

thank you for reading.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 10):
No bathroom is a letdown at an airline home lounge, but chained bottle opener is just schocking!

Well, I was feeling lucky to get at least a place to sit, some (potentially) great views and some food. Should I become more used to premium flight I'd feel more spoiled but, for the time being, that wasn't bad. And bathrooms were just a few steps away. Sure enough, Alitalia should think about enlarging the lounge especially given the amount of passengers flying in and out of Turin.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 10):
It is. How exciting to know we have been on the same plane, even it was not at the same time.

Yes, indeed! I thought at you when I saw the red nose, I think I read your TR starring G-DOCX just a couple of days prior to flying!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 10):
Hmm, could BA only assign a fourth cabin crew member on short flights like AMS?

Well, I confess my ignorance. I heard only the names of the two pilots and of three cabin crew members, perhaps there was a fourth one of whom I missed the name... but it makes sense, they'd be four.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 10):
Why? Stella was great!

As Petteri mentioned, Stella is or at least was up to a couple of years ago, the best beer for chavs!

Quoting signol (Reply 11):
Excellent continuation Fabrizio, thank you! I shall be doing the same route in reverse in a few weeks, though I declined the upgrade offer (I did pre-pay for access to the No 1 Lounge though at Gatwick though!).

Hm, not bad! I've seen the photos of the one in South Terminal and it seemed pretty decent. Will you do a trip report of it?

Quoting signol (Reply 11):
I remember your remarking about the TRN airport bus, though I'd rather a combination of train and tram  

Well, that might be tricky. Trains run to Torino Dora (GTT station) and the whole area is a little bit like Berlin after reunification, i.e. a building site. They're reconverting millions of sqm of old factories which moved out of town and everything - roads, bus lines, trams - move monthly. A bus is slightly more pricey (7€), less comfy and longer but it's definitely not worth the hassle.
Otherwise if you feel particularly adventurous you can still arrive to Dora by train and then, with the same train ticket you've taken from the automatic machines at TRN airport, hop on the "Dorafly" bus which will take you to Porta Susa station. Thing is I've never done it in my life so I don't know how often you can find it or how long the journey will be. If you need any other info on Turin drop me a mail!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):

Hi Fabrizio,

A very nice yet symbolic report (at least from your point of view) and a warm welcome to the working class heroes club.

Hi Nils,

thanks!Happy to be in the club!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Maybe the symbolism would've been even stronger if you had chosen your beloved flag carrier Alitalia iso LHItalia. But you are forgiven, they both go by 'Italia' so you're pardoned

Well, after a 6-years long self-imposed embargo I'm going to fly on AZ this December, even if on a KLM codeshare!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Too bad you have chosen that particular reg already for the 3th time. I mean: how difficult can it be to send in a reg you haven't flown yet?

Bad luck, it's a classic for me!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
Sure it was a Punto? Guess I shouldn't argue with you on this, since you are an Italian 'pur sang' I think you'll notice the difference between a Punto and a Fiesta!

Usually Italian airports are quite "patriotic" and use Italian cars... I've always seen, at TRN airports, only old Puntos and Doblò vans. Milan is more stylish and goes for Panda Van 4x4s (great cars in my opinion...)

Quoting sultanils (Reply 12):
That's the spirirt. I wish you a good start in your working life!

Thank you very much!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Hi Fabrizio,

Good to see the return trip up so soon, although you might want to think about posting these as separate reports - I bet a good number of readers of first part (almost including me) don't realize that you've added another installment as part of the same thread!

Hey Petteri!

Thanks for your tip, I'll do as you say or, even better, I'll post everything, from A to Z, without delays! Unfortunately I had to rush out and missed some time.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Good for you to try BA Club Europe and for that cheap price it is almost a no-brainer. They do offer a very nice product with good meals, plenty of champers and that lovely reserved, but still extremely caring and friendly upper class British service you surely will learn to love during your upcoming years at honeypot land.

Well, there's one thing that we at BA are very well aware of: Club Europe and Euro Traveller are, despite the (out)dated cabin seats and fittings, some of the best products on offer in Europe nowadays. Problem is that the service is not consistent. I've flown LHR-BCN-LHR the other day in Club and the outbound flight saw some quite grumpy FAs while the return was, simply put, fabolous in term of both food and service. It felt like two different airlines and this should not happen.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Ahh, that's the bane of airport buses in many places. If you try to save some money instead of taking the "express" or whatever bus lines you end up doing things like this. I still have flashbacks from that time in Dublin when I decided to be cheap and skip the 747 Airlink in favor of some local bus that sure was cheap, but took around 1.5 hours to reach the airport, running through such prestigious neighborhoods as Ballymun. Seriously at one point I think around half of the passengers in the bus were teenage mums with their "lust of the moment" offspring...

The problem is that all airport buses in Turin do that way, despite the "superstrada". God knows why.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
How come TRN has such a nice lounge where NAP has none?!!? Yes, still haven't fully gotten over my experiences at that particular airport...

Mysteries of Alitalia!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Ahh, interesting choice for BA, but yes, I'd done the same. I just love curries, especially the British renditions of them. Which reminds me that it's been almost half a year since I last set my foot in my favorite European country, starting to have some withdrawal symptoms here! Luckily London is on the cards for January!

Really? Drop me a line if you pass through LHR!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 14):

Great continuation, thanks for posting it so quickly!

Nice that you got that offer with the cheap upgrade. I'm flying LHR-ARN with BA in January, and got an offer to upgrade to Club Europe for 69GBP, like you, I couldn't resist it!

Too bad about that weather in Turin. That lounge didn't sound too good... Atleast it looked stylish!

Martin

Thank you Martin! I've flown in Y ARN-LHR in August this year with an airplane still fitted with the World cabin. I guess there's a fairly high chance that you'll fly on the 763ER... It's quite a time machine but it's a great flight, proper J treat!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
Ciao Fabrizio!

Thanks for a couple of nice trip reports !

The meal on the return on BA looks very good, It's great working for an airline (speaking from personal experience) and I hope you'll start travelling a lot more now and do more trip reports!

Hi 777Man, thank you for reading!

You're right about the meals, it was simply very good. On BCN-LHR I took the salmon and I'd recommend it to anyone. I'm not trying to do some professional a** licking to my new employees but, honestly, it was by far my best meal on a plane.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
Hey Fabrizio!

Nice continuation to your first part. Looks like BA Club is still offering a decent service. Good luck with your new job at the World's Favourite Airline!

Hi Gabriel, glad you liked the second instalment. Thanks for the encouragement!


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6030 times:

Hi Fabrizio

nice trip report, enjoyed the read! I especially like the pics taken above the alps on the LHR-MXP leg.

Grts
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5895 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 18):

Hi Fabrizio

nice trip report, enjoyed the read! I especially like the pics taken above the alps on the LHR-MXP leg.

Grts
Marc

Hi Marc, thank you for writing and for reading (and for your kind message on Facebook as well!). I'm glad you liked this TR and the mountain panorama... it stunned me as well.

Read from you soon I hope!

Fabrizio


User currently offlineParton87 From Sweden, joined Sep 2008, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

Hello Fabrizio!

Thanks for the great story! Very enjoyable read and nice pictures!

Sad that LH Italia is gone now. They looked like a nice airline. Pity for the bad management at LH and the airport authorities at Malpensa 
Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
and yes, I’m damn proud about it!



Congratulations to that! You should be proud!

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
Small world, isn’t it?



Well, it´s for sure!

Thanks again for the great story!

Greetings
Robert


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5298 times:

Hey Fabrizio, sorry for the late reply. Great report!  
Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
and those two happenings needed some celebration, classic Jägerbomb-fuelled partying. But let us not make a fuss, there’s a plane to catch and yet another friend to bid farewell... this time for good.

Hehe, to me there's nothing worse then stepping on a plane with a nasty hangover. But then again, rather that then miss the flight.

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
However, Terminal 1. I’m no great fan of it and I won’t indulge in any more ranting. Today the refrigerated warehouse is more crowded than usual with lengthy queues at the Lufthansa/Austrian ticket office.

Interesting, thought LH flew from T3, or is that still just SK, UA and SQ. When will all *A carriers be at the same terminal anyway? (can't remember if it was T1 or T3)

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
I happen to know that every employee of Lufthansa Italia will be moved to Mother Lufthansa Deutschland, provided that they manage to pass a German exam,

Oh crikey, that doesn't sound good. If I were in her shoes I'd kiss that job goodbye, but best luck to her!

Quoting JL418 (Thread starter):
Time to talk about the in-flight service, shall we? The Lufthansa trio (an all-Italian crew with two young females and one male pursuer) is already pushing the carts up and down the aisle. Being this morning a ready-to-drink yogurt and a pastry are served, plus some cold and hot beverages.

Service looks quite nice and generous, for Y and the length of the flight. Of course I'd have expected LHI to serve up a full hot breakfast in Y, with the choices between eggs and pancakes, and of course the additional cold plate, along with some fresh croissants, breads and mini preserves   Just joking 
Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
(seriously guys, you’re flying J class and yet nick bottle openers? What happened to the real gentlemen?)

Hmm, well getting some bang for the buck is understandable, but by nicking some tired old opener? C'mon! They cost €1 at IKEA.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
Seems that somebody didn’t have a good relationship with the airport’s vending machines up to the point of writing “Ladri”, thieves, on them.

Well it's as they say "you've never truly lived, until someone puts up a sign for something you did" Hats off to this guy  
Quoting JL418 (Reply 9):
The food is delightful even if I’d love my Masala to be that bit extra spicy, dribbling-nose-and-watery-eyes point if you know what I mean, but all the rest – warm roll, cheese, small lemon curd dessert – is flawless. If only the winds could stop acting like a giant phone put on “vibration”... At least my efforts at photoshooting would be slightly better.

Food looks really nice, although I still don't understand why they don't serve a proper starter and a proper dessert on that tray. It seems like only Lufthansa do that these days. Portions look good on BA though.

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas



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User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5064 times:

Hi Robert, sorry for having been so Italian in replying to your very kind comment.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 20):
Thanks for the great story! Very enjoyable read and nice pictures!

Sad that LH Italia is gone now. They looked like a nice airline. Pity for the bad management at LH and the airport authorities at Malpensa 

It is a pity indeed. I was at Malpensa last week and, even if the satellite was full with the morning departures, I couldn't help feeling a little bit sad. Now KL is going as well, following closely her pal AF... And fuel prices have taken their toll on Cargoitalia, operating some ex-AZ MD11F's, which has suspended all operations. Things ain't going well but SEA, Milan airports' owner, thinks everything's ok. Sad indeed.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 20):
Congratulations to that! You should be proud!

I truly am. The new graduate scheme is open now, I invite you to apply - it's a great company, with plenty of people doing their job properly and believing in what they're doing, a very good environment if you want to grow. Give a thought about that, and I enlarge the invitation to any young grad in any subject but with a great passion for flying and delivering great service.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 20):
Thanks again for the great story!

Greetings
Robert

My pleasure!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Hey Fabrizio, sorry for the late reply. Great report!

Hi Jonas, don't worry for the delay - instead please accept my apologizes for being even more late!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Hehe, to me there's nothing worse then stepping on a plane with a nasty hangover. But then again, rather that then miss the flight.

Well it wasn't that nasty, just a reminder from my stomach, something like Next time choose between Jaegerbomb, GT and VodkaRedbull, not all of them, ok?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Interesting, thought LH flew from T3, or is that still just SK, UA and SQ. When will all *A carriers be at the same terminal anyway? (can't remember if it was T1 or T3)

Well, Star has always largely used T1 as far as I know even if I've seen TK the other day at the A380 gates in T3. However they'll all be based at the new T2 or "The Terminal" as the developer wants to call it now (please use a Barry White-ish voice when saying that or you'll spoil the effect).

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Oh crikey, that doesn't sound good. If I were in her shoes I'd kiss that job goodbye, but best luck to her!

Well, given the current economic climate she'd better run to the nearest Goethe Institut and learn some German. Sometimes I don't understand my fellow countrymen (and women). We leave in an era which allows travel and nothing is more valuable, in Italy, than foreign experience in your CV and yet... so many think about moving as some sort of curse. Go figure.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Service looks quite nice and generous, for Y and the length of the flight. Of course I'd have expected LHI to serve up a full hot breakfast in Y, with the choices between eggs and pancakes, and of course the additional cold plate, along with some fresh croissants, breads and mini preserves   Just joking 

:D

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Hmm, well getting some bang for the buck is understandable, but by nicking some tired old opener? C'mon! They cost €1 at IKEA.
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Well it's as they say "you've never truly lived, until someone puts up a sign for something you did" Hats off to this guy  

I don't know, I've never been robbed by one of these vending machines. And, besides, it's just a couple of euros. There's somebody else to shout "Thief" at, IMHO.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Food looks really nice, although I still don't understand why they don't serve a proper starter and a proper dessert on that tray. It seems like only Lufthansa do that these days. Portions look good on BA though.

Is it perhaps 'cause they wouldn't know where to fit them? I wouldn't, honestly.


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