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Freezing Zagreb: HEL-FRA-ZAG-CPH-KRP-CPH-HEL  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7587 times:

Introduction

So I have a birthday. Even once per year. Yeah, I know - might come as a bit of a shock to some of you readers, but that’s the way things are and I’m not getting any younger either! So this year I decided to celebrate it by going abroad somewhere where I hadn’t been to before. Well, there are of course tons of such places all around the world, but having only a weekend to do it narrowed down the options quite a lot. Anyway after playing around with Itasoftware I came up with a very nice itinerary to Zagreb. I’ve never been to Croatia, and it’s been on my list for quite some time so this sounded nice. As a bonus the itinerary I booked: HEL-VIE-ZAG-CPH-HEL had two segments operated by Crotia Airlines - a new carrier for me so this sounded like a no brainer really, especially given the amazingly low fare of only 170 EUR!

As the return journey featured a nine hour layover at Copenhagen I decided to see whether I could nest a side trip somewhere during that period. I quickly decided to fly to Karup (KRP), an airport in the middle of nowhere in the Jutland peninsula, the continental part of Denmark. It fulfilled all the criteria I had for the side trip: it was close (short flight times), flight schedules were perfect, fares low thanks to competition between Norwegian and Cimber on this route and finally it would be another new airport for my log.

As a side note it should be mentioned that KRP is the place where Norwegian and Cimber had their infamous price war a year or so ago. When DY launched the route they were promoting it with a number of 1 DKK tickets. Well, pretty much all of those tickets were booked by what turned out to be Cimber employees traced to the Cimber head office network IP addresses. Of course they never actually took those flights, just decided to hassle the competitor and force the flying public to pony up more money for their tickets. This of course caused a lot of (bad) publicity in the Danish press by that time - I’m not sure if Cimber ever publicly admitted doing this, let alone apologized...

Anyway those 1 DKK fares were long gone when I booked my flight. I decided to do QI on the outbound and then DY back. The Cimber flight was around 45 EUR, DY was (of course) cheaper at 34 EUR. I actually made a stupid mistake booking the QI flight and booked it for a wrong date two weeks earlier. Well, a quick email to their customer care fixed this just fine and they changed me to the desired flight just like that without any further ado - you gotta love these small, flexible and no hassle airlines! Try that with Ryanair!

Here’s the initial itinerary:



A bit later I was discussing upcoming travel with my mate and fellow a.netter Eric (airbuseric) and the fact that he had never flown with an ATR-42 came up. Well, I told him about my Cimber flight, we worked out some flights and before I knew it he was booked on the same flights as me to and from KRP, with LOT and SK taking him to and from CPH. Well done.

Well, the whole planning/booking process was far too smooth so of course some disruptions were bound to happen. The first arrived two months later in the form of an email from Norwegian advising me that DY is canceling the Copenhagen - Karup route and that my only chance would be a full refund (interestingly enough they did not just proactively refund the fare like Skyways did to me this autumn but instead I had to go to their website and request a refund myself, which was dealt with rather fast, so bonus points for that at least!).

To fix things up I really had no other option but to do a same plane turnaround at KRP and booked a ticket back with the return sector of the outbound flight for the same 46 EUR. Eric booked himself on the same flight as well.

Well, of course this wasn’t enough and some weeks later there was another disturbance in the force: OS suddenly announced that it was canceling all service to HEL starting from 14th of November, in less than three weeks. They’ve served VIE-HEL for as long as I can remember with two daily VO Fokkers (and sometimes the CRJs when VO still had them) and now they decided to do this - so sad! Oh, and in case it wasn’t obvious my HEL-VIE flight was an OU codeshare operated by VO for OS (confusing, innit?).

So what’s a guy to do but to look up some potential rerouting possibilities and give Expedia (where I booked the ticket from) a call. Well, this turned out to be a very frustrating experience as I got connected to the Indian call centre, got a very courteous but completely clueless agent who after being on hold for most of the hour long phone call (my employer is going to get a minor shock after they see the phone bill, I’m sure!) claimed that my only options were either a full refund (no way, booking a replacement itinerary this close to the date would cost a helluva more money!) or to fly out a full DAY earlier with HEL-CPH-ZAG. Well, this wasn’t exactly what I was after so I politely told her that I’d think about it and hung up.

Well, the next step was to call the OU call centre in Zagreb (the ticket was issued on OU stock), where I got a very nice agent - she spoke perfect English and managed to fix up my itinerary in about five minutes in exactly the way I wanted it to be fixed up - via Germany with LH. She even gave me two different choices: via FRA or MUC and honored my request to be routed via FRA (it would get me to ZAG earlier and give me a chance to fly with the OU A319 as well, thus having me sample both of their plane types on this trip). She couldn’t reissue the ticket right away as it was night and she needed a supervisor to approve the rerouting, fair enough. She promised to get that done “by ten AM tomorrow morning” - well the next morning I got the updated e-ticket confirmation in my inbox around twenty minutes before that time - well done! This is exactly the way things should work. Thank you Croatian for a most welcome pre flight customer experience!

As a funny side note it should be mentioned that Expedia sent me a new email a couple of days later saying that “the airline has proactively rerouted you via Frankfurt blah blah...”. Proactively my ass  .

By now the itinerary had transformed into this:

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Saturday 19.11.2011

As I am leaving on the first FRA flight of the day at 6.30 it was another early wake up, catching the 5.12 bus to the airport. T1 is absolutely packed this morning, but looks like everybody has decided to do check in the old fashioned way today and is queuing for manual check in...

The LH OLCI couldn’t add my SAS FFP number to the reservation so I head to the bag drop desk to get it done - the girl there is very rude (or maybe just tired?) but claims that she did it - not that she bothered to print me a new boarding pass or anything...

As it is Saturday the priority security lane is closed, but luckily the masses are still down at check in so not much queue here. Our bird is parked at gate 12:

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The lounge doesn’t open until six, which is just five minutes before the boarding time printed in my self printed boarding pass, so I sit in a bench in front of the lounge for a while until they finally open it a few minutes after six - at the same time they are making an announcement about the flight boarding in few minutes.

Inside I grab some coffee and some of their delicious, fresh(ly heated) croissants.

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After nicking the morning newspaper (the paperboy didn’t get to my door before I had to leave - that’s a sure sign of a too early flight if anything!) I head to the gate where there is still a considerable queue. Next I’m VERY surprised to see that they actually have a separate, much shorter queue for business class and premium passengers - must be a first time ever at HEL! Thanks to that I’m onboard in no time at all. As they announced at the gate this flight is completely packed - I spy the loadsheet in the front galley and I think it said 10C + 190M. Two rows of business class on this bird.

HEL - FRA
LH855
A321 D-AIRF “Kempten”
Seat 18F
6.47 - 8.02

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The NEK interior makes this over 17 year old bird to still look rather fresh:

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BTW this is my 2nd flight with “Kempten”, the first one was two and half years ago on FRA-BCN and definitely no NEK back then!

While waiting for boarding to complete the German captain is on the mike with a very detailed welcome speech, in true German style. Oh and equally detailed in English from what I can understand from the German version, so very good. The bad news is that EuroControl (love ‘em) has issued us a wheels up time at 6.53, 23 minutes after our SDT so we will be sitting at the gate a bit longer before a slow taxi and a departure towards the southwest, followed by a left turn. The good news is that despite all that we should still be at FRA pretty much on schedule, EuroControl permitting of course! The route will be a bit more eastern then usually - following the east coast of the Baltic Sea as HEL-RIX-KGD-GDN-BER-LEJ and then to FRA. FRA weather is apparently “unseasonably warm” and the whole ordeal should take around 2h10mins.

I’m not quite sure what he said as our slot time so I ask the middle aged Finnish couple next to me “Excuse me, but did you hear what the captain said our slot time was?” - they look at me like I’m freaking mad or something and definitely don’t understand the question at all, so I say “Never mind” and decide to withdraw from any conversation with them during this flight.

Pushback is 17 minutes late - and our take off from 22R definitely somewhat later than the originally announced slot time (or maybe my watch isn’t at EuroControl Standard Time?).

Not too long after take off a smell of something nice and warm starts filling the cabin - and soon enough we get handed the breakfast:

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Yes, that’s a sort of a warm hamburger: Finnish potato bread with a minced meat patty, cheddar cheese and some tomatoes inside. Not most people’s idea of a breakfast I guess, but rather nice dish after all. I’m starting to like how LH nowadays comes up with something new on every flight I take with them - let’s see what the breakfast will be like when I’m taking this same flight in two weeks...

After the breakfast I put some mellow tunes on my Ipod and basically crash for the rest of the flight, only waking up to the chime of the seat belt sign going on again.

A new day dawning:

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Ok, looks like we are coming on the 25s:

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At this point I started wondering what the heck was going on as the airport should definitely already be visible from my window:

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Only at this point I realized that we are landing on the new runway - I didn’t know they use it as 25R from this direction too.

A moody shot:

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Total flight time was a bit over two hours. This being the Polderbaan of Frankfurt it takes a bit of a time to taxi to the A gates. They announced before landing that we are arriving at gate A40 which is annoying as the OU flight will leave from somewhere in B so a low A gate would’ve been much closer.

Interesting practice “plane” made out of containers:

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It still feels so wrong:

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Another moody shot:

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Indeed we dock to gate A40, the penultimate gate on the A pier.

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Notice the flight deck crew of this 737 waiting for their ride:

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Surprisingly deboarding doesn’t take that long, looks like most of the pax are connecting and just want to make it to their next gate as fast as possible. Bye:

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Frankfurt Airport

Yes, indeed it is gate B47 for ZAG today, so I set for the long walk, dodging masses of people in the concourse as usual. Time to stop the registration on the way:

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9A-CTL, from gate 47 and on time expected. Fine.

Through the A → B tunnel:

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Passport control at B has some queues but is mostly smooth (apart from an African fellow refused entry to the non-Schengen area - instead he is told to wait on the side for the Bundespolizei which he surprisingly does - I expected him to run away at any moment but no, this guy’s not a runner!). Luckily the young guy processing me doesn’t give me any crap about traveling on my ID card (still haven’t gotten around getting a new passport) which is an official entry document for Croatia but apparently not that widely known.

The gate B47 turns out to be just around the corner (or actually downstairs) from the new LH Senator lounge so that’s where I head next.

Nice but packed:

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Air Canada parked below:

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I hit the bar and tell the young Turkish bartender that it is my birthday and indicate that some bubbly from the bottles in the cooler on top of the bar would be appropriate for this occasion. Well, the friendly lad is immediately into it and tells me that those are “just prosecco, sir.” and “I have something better for you!”. This sounds good, and indeed he pulls out a bottle of champagne from the fridge, empties it to a glass, opens another one and fills the glass, handing it to me with “Enjoy, anything else, sir?”. I tell him I will come back for seconds later (I do) which is okay with him.

Ahh, this is the life:

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Looks my plane is already there:

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Nice seats in this section:

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The breakfast offerings are rather standard LH ones, not that I’m hungry at all:

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Some ten minutes after the boarding time printed on the BP I trundle downstairs to the gate, where boarding hasn’t even started yet. This is a perfect opportunity to shoot a photo of my ride:

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In a few minutes it starts, though - the agent starts his well rehearsed script “...this Lufthansa flig...” until he realizes that nope, that wasn’t quite right and starts again with “... this Croatia Airlines flight to Zagreb...”.

Interestingly there’s a passenger with a paper ticket - not even a hand written one but one of the ATB cardboard ones. She is very confused why the e-gates won’t let her through, but the agent is quick to help her.

Soon enough I walk down the jetway for my first flight with the 136th airline in my log.

FRA - ZAG
OU417
A319 9A-CTL “Pula”
Seat 23F
9.31 - 10.54

A business friendly older purser is greeting passengers in the front galley. The FA in the back galley is not friendly at all, I say loudly “Good morning!” when getting to my seat on the last row and she hides away in the galley behind a gossip magazine. Glad to see you enjoying your job so much!

Blue cloth seats - a bit old fashioned, making this bird look far older than its 11 years - it was the last A319 delivered to OU factory fresh back in 2000. In business class there’s a mini table blocking the middle seat:

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In economy class there’s none (d’oh!):

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Not the best of legrooms out there, and made somewhat worse by the bimbo (seriously, she was connecting from an overnight flight from the US and still had her cutish eyemask on when I saw her at ZAG airport...) girl sitting in front of me reclining and sleeping all through out the flight (luckily the FAs couldn’t care less if I kept my seat reclined all throughout take off and landing...):

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The seat also makes some very annoying creaking noises whenever I adjust my position, very annoying as it sounds like somebody having a bad case of flatulence. At least I get the block of three seats for me - load is anyway light at maybe 30% with nobody in business class.

Welcome announcements (as all others) are done by the purser in Croatian, English and Deutsch. No word from the cockpit at all during this flight. Flight time to Zagreb a quick one hour this morning.

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Safety demo is played from the drop down screens, sadly that’s the only use they get during this flight - how hard is it to implement an airshow, come on?

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Push back is on time, but Frankfurt being Frankfurt we don’t take off from 18 until almost twenty minutes later. Well, what’s there to do but to enjoy the sights of the planes all around me. Here’s Privatair for PlaneHunter:

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Can’t have a report about FRA without an A380:

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Another LH A321 landing on 25R:

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As always, FRA is good for reflections:

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The soon-to-be-opened “A plus” pier (seriously, who was the moron who came up with that stupid name??) plus another landing bird for 25R:

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Air China *A logobird:

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And again:

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This apron near runway 18 is always good for some of the more exotic carriers:

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A bit of a queue:

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Some nice moody views of cloudy hills after take off:

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Service soon commences, it is a choice of drinks (Croatian beer, yay) with a rather weird and dry croissant with cheese filling. In addition to the cheese there’s some sort of odd green paste inside, tastes and looks like some sort of chutney made from green peppers or something - a bit spicy but not bad actually, just odd.
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Must be some industry below that cloud base:

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A bit later we get handed this:

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Which turns out to be a Dutch-style cookie, nicely branded for OU:

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Reaching The Alps:

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Right after crossing the spine of the Alps descent is announced and we basically spend the next twenty minutes deep in clouds with no views whatsoever.

I’m already getting a bit antsy by our seemingly never ending descent when out of the blue (well, gray) I see the ground appearing, very near us:

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Next I’m shocked to realize that it indeed is while - not relly snow but frost anyway:

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Landing is on runway 05 after a flight time of hour and five minutes.

No jetways at ZAG airport, so we get an apron parking position and a bus ride. They use both front and rear doors to speed up the process, which being seated in the last row is of course nice.

Interesting neighbour, dedicated to Markus who flew BAS here some years ago:

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Well, since someone mentioned Markus here’s another one:

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The terminal - not a great visibility here:

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A short bus ride later I’m the first one to enter the completely deserted immigration hall. The older lady is completely disinterested in my ID card and in few seconds I’m in Croatia for the first time.

There’s a bit of a wait before the next bus leaves, so I take a short look around the small terminal and check in for my tomorrow’s flight using the kiosks. Interesting the kiosks use the LH Check in system despite selecting Croatia Airlines from the main menu. The system is not able to check me in for my CPH-HEL flight, but that is hardly surprising considering it is around 35 hours away...

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Hmm, apparently a new airline is in the works:

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Outside it is quite chilly, but I’m a Finn so I can of course handle it.

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Beautiful:

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Soon enough the bus shows up, and for a rather reasonable 4 EUR and change I get a ride to the Zagreb Bus station.

Zagreb

In the bus station I spot this bus - this one’s for Jonas - business class travel for probably a very good price:

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I basically spend the day walking around the city, heading inside to warm myself when needed in the many beerhouses around. Some pictures:

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Cute:

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Well, it isn’t the Chocolate Lounge but Heaven instead:

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7626 times:

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They are everywhere:

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A bit chilly indeed:

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I love funiculars:

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The Lower Town engulfed in fog:

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They definitely make a point about being ready for the EU - all the government offices boasted dual Croatian - EU flags:

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This is a genuine Zastava (known as “Yugo” for the rest of the world):

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The train station:

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After getting tired and a bit cold as well I decide to head to my hotel. Since I have a flight departing in the morning I decided to look for hotels near the airport. I found the “Dream Hotel” located in the town of Velika Gorica (where the airport is as well) which seemed to be a nice choice - the room cost around 40 EUR, they have free wifi and airport shuttle and the reviews in TripAdvisor seemed to be okay. So after a bit of searching I found where the local buses depart from the Zagreb train station (confusingly they don’t use the bus station) and board the local bus to Velika Gorica (only under 1.50 EUR, great value for money as it is only around a kilometer to the airport from one of the stops).

This town doesn’t look like it has much in the form of action on a Saturday night, but looks very pretty being white (Zagreb, being a big city didn’t really have any snow):

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After a bit of confusion as to the whereabouts of the hotel I find it next to a huge hypermarket and get checked in by a friendly guy who insists that he shows me the room and its “features”.

Well, quite okay for a night’s sleep:

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There’s a certain budget feel to the room, reminds me of that budget hotel at Charleroi Airport, but fine with me.

I had plans to head to the nearby restaurant I saw on the walk over for some dinner but thanks to the generous Croatian lunch portions I am not hungry at all, so the wifi and an early night (yeah, never enough time to sleep during the week) are more tempting and I stay in instead.

Sunday 20.11.2011

The night is a bit restless, thanks to a guest who apparently brought in a pack of (wild) dogs - they kept yapping and barking every now and then and the reception guy in the evening who after I declined a wake up call said “Well, don’t blame us then if you oversleep and miss your transportation and flight” and thus planted this idea deep into my subconsciousness and had me waking up and checking the time all through out the wee hours of the morning...

Anyway once up I head to check out a little before my 6.30 shuttle reservation (which turned out to be far too early, BTW). There’s another guy on the shift now, this young lad is even more friendlier than the one the previous night and almost forces me to get some breakfast he is preparing (but I manage to explain that I’m not really into it). He also turns out to be the shuttle bus driver, so in a few minutes he whisks me to the airport and over there even shakes my hand to thank me for my business and to welcome me back anytime. Wow, these Croatians sure are friendly and hospitable!

The new day dawning:

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Flight board:

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Already having my boarding pass and everything set there’s no reason to linger around landside so I head through the empty and not very throughout security check and shoot a photo of the deserted domestic part of the terminal:

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Through passport control to the international part and into the lounge. Well, I’m not exactly impressed - despite this being (among other things as it is the only lounge at this airport) Croatia Airlines’, a Star Alliance member flagship lounge at their home and main hub airport there’s not really much here:

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The furniture is stylish, but not much foodwise or drinkwise:

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There’s no free wireless either, just some cables where one can plug in their own laptop. Oh, and of course no computers.

Actually there’s not even a toilet inside the lounge, one has to go to the rather packed departure hall for that. Not impressed.

Breakfast is then just some sweet cakes, coffee, apple juice and Austrian (!) mineral water. Notice the cheap plastic disposable coffee cups - not very premium:

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Limited apron views but unfortunately quite bad reflections:

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Here’s another one for Markus:

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Well, thanks to Croatia being quite a bit cheaper than I anticipated and me not going out last night I still have a quite a stash of Kunas in my wallet. I decide to hit the single shop in the packed departure lounge to see if I they could help my to solve my (positive) problem. Well, I get some choccies and other stuff, but am informed that nope, they can’t put the ridiculously cheap booze in those transparent plastic bags so it would be confiscated from me at CPH. Bugger that, so I’m left with a bit smaller stash by the time boarding is called. And no, there’s no exchange bureau airside. Oh well, I’ll just have to deal with it at Copenhagen then...

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OU’s logo bird:

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The bus is packed, looks like quite a good load this morning. Upon pulling in front of the plane (9A-CQE, obviously a new plane for me) there’s an ambulance there. Now I don’t know about you, but to me a sight of an ambulance in front of the plane you are supposed to board isn’t that comforting - it usually means that someone is sick and that could also mean a delay. The heater in the bus is also turned on to full blast, so waiting there is not very comfortable at all.

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Well, luckily this time is is just a pax on a wheelchair who is brought to the plane in the ambulance - a bit weird actually to use an ambulance for such a purpose, but whatever. After the guy is helped onboard and the ambulance leaves it is time for us to be let onboard.

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ZAG - CPH
OU480
Dash 8 Q400 9A-CQE “Zagorje”
Seat 21F
8.21 - 10.31

The Dash feels much newer and fresher than the Airbus yesterday - but of course it should being a relatively new plane, having been delivered to OU in April 2010. Leather seats here:

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I don’t think the BT dashes have these signs on the ceiling:

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Again I’m sitting on the last row - 21D (BT) / F (OU) is my favorite seat on the BT Dashes and also here. There’s only CD/DF on that row due to the galley on the other side and a very good chance for the seat next to you to stay empty, which it does on this flight as well, yay.

Two youngish female FAs, quite interestingly the purser is a colored girl - nothing racist about it but I thought that kind of thing was really rare around here?

One and half rows (the first row has only AC seats) of business class with two Croatian guys there. Economy load is good, I’d say around 90%, so very good to have the seat next to me free. Decent legroom:

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The flight time to CPH is announced as 2h25mins.

Wow, this is my first deicing this season - never thought it would take place in Croatia!

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Due to the deicing departure is a few minutes late.

That’s my ride from yesterday:

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Take off is from 05 again, not much views:

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I doze off for a while, waking up when the service is about to commence. This time there’s a choice between a Turkey or Cheese croissant. This one with turkey is a bit fresher than the one yesterday, but has the same weird green paste inside:

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The FA tells me “Enjoy your meal!” - I’m tempted to ask “What meal?”... Drinks are also offered, followed by another drinks run with a chocolate bar:

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A very sleepy atmosphere in the cabin - most of the passengers are asleep:

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I try to sleep but can’t anymore, so instead I just listen to music and read my book. Some one and half hours into the flight the First Officer makes a short speech, explaining our route as Zagreb - Maribor - Prague - Dresden - Berlin - Copenhagen with the route being covered by clouds all along. At CPH it is plus seven degrees but foggy and wet.

These are the only views of the ground during this flight - this is the Baltic coast of Germany:

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Descending into CPH feels like descent into ZAG the day before - gray clouds and nothing else. Again the first sight of the ground comes just seconds before touchdown on 22L:

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Flight time was a bit over two hours.

Wow, it really is foggy here:

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Taxi to the apron is quite slow, well it is understandable considering the bad visibility. For some reason there are lots of guys with jackets reading “Airport Security” waiting on the apron when we deplane, I guess the wheelchair guy is helped by them at this end.

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Copenhagen Kastrup Airport, take 1

A bus ride brings us to the non-Schengen part of the D pier past some interesting birds including an Air Cairo A320, Gulf Air/Privatair 737, Air Canada 767 and a QR A330.

While waiting for transfer security (which is slow and frustrating) I turn on my phone and get a text from Eric. I reply, saying that I’ll be there in a few minutes.

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When entering the Schengen area the passport control officer asks if I arrived from Toronto - “Nope, from Zagreb.” - he seems confused so I add “Croatia” after which lets me through.

Next I find Eric right where we agreed to meet, in front of the SAS lounge complex, probably leeching off their wifi  . Before heading in we head first to the transfer desks where I confuse the SGS agent by first requesting a boarding pass to HEL and then to KRP - “Don’t ask” I say and well, she doesn’t, just rolls her eyes...  

Then I get rid of my Kunas at an exchange desk, being of course ripped off in the process as they have to do the conversion to EUR via DKK...

The next few hours are spent at the Scandnavian lounge, chatting, eating, drinking and just well... lounging. Although our plan is almost shattered at the entrance as Eric hands the girl his QI boarding pass instead of the SK one for the evening. The girl is very confused and tells me that she should refuse entry as our next flight is not an SK one but the QI one but she will make an exception this time (yeah, how many times have I heard this one before...).

Finally I decided to try these cup noodles they have:

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Anyway after enough quality time there and watching the situation at AMS to get progressively worse (fog there as well, but apparently much, much worse than here with lots of delays and canceled flights, CPH seemed to be mostly business as usual), which of course is bad news for Eric’s evening flight home, we leave the lounge for the long walk to gate A28, almost at the domestic terminal.

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Well, that doesn’t look like an ATR to me:

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Yep, apparently they changed the equipment to a CRJ. Eric is of course a bit disappointed at this - but after seeing the registration of OY-RJA he thinks this might be one of the CRJ-100s of which QI still has quite a few in their fleet. Well, upon looking it up later I’m sorry to disappoint him, but no, it is a -200 model. And one that I’ve flown twice before, a roundtrip to BSL from CPH for work back in 2004...

A gate agent shows up from nowhere and opens the gate right away. When he is scanning my boarding pass I ask “What happened to the original plane?” but he doesn’t seem to understand what I’m talking about.

CPH - KRP
QI801
CRJ-200 OY-RJA
Seat 6A
14.45 - 15.19

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No chance to get underwing shots for Markus on a bird this low (at least without getting our clothes dirty):

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Picture by Eric:


A middle aged, gray haired and rather bored looking but friendly female FA is greeting us at the door. QI’s domestic flights are free seating, so Eric who boards before me grabs 3A and I go for 6A a few rows behind. The legroom is good, the other comfort not so - I just hate the low windows on these birds:

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These ads are quite cheap:

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The captain makes a short welcome speech, advising us of a flight time of 30 minutes with “the same weather in Karup as here in Copenhagen”. The plane appears to be around half full, but luckily an empty seat next to me (and Eric).

Big sis next to us:

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Departure is bang on time.

I could think of many captions for this picture, but all of them were more or less rude so I skipped:

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This is the MD-87 scheduled to operate Eric’s evening flight to AMS - after spending some time with City Airline it is now back at its home with SAS:

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Take off is from 22R and we disappear into the murk right away:

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Picture by Eric:


Some nice views over the clouds on this flight:

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Picture by Eric:
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No service whatsoever on this flight - these Cimber domestic flights always confuse me. Two years ago I got served coffee and biscuits on CPH-BLL, and I think I got coffee (they had dropped the biscuits) a year ago on SGD-CPH and now there’s nothing (nor was there any service on my flights to RNN back in May...). I guess their service has seen constant erosion in the last few years... Actually there was a catering truck docked to the plane at CPH during boarding - I wonder why it was there if there’s no service at all... Must be the crew meals (union rules, you see).

Anyway soon enough we dive down towards the murk again, only emerging from it seconds before touchdown on runway 27L:

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Picture by Eric:
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Picture by Eric:


The terminal seems to be really far away from the runways at Karup - despite the taxi being conducted at a very fast speed it still takes a while to get there. This is the entrance to the MIL apron:

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Interesting - the taxiway actually crosses a road:

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I don’t think it is a public road, though - probably just for military use.

These are not needed today:

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Interesting fueling arrangements:

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Finally we stop in front of the interesting looking terminal building:

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Picture by Eric:


Upon deboarding I tell the FA “I’ll be back in ten minutes” which she doesn’t really seem to fully grasp.

Karup Airport

Very interesting terminal design, you actually go down from the apron to arrivals:

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Inside it is just a matter of climbing the stairs up to the departure level and hitting the security check point - we aren’t even the last pax to get there. I show my mobile boarding pass from my phone to the agent (no access to printer so I had to come up with something yesterday) who after a few tries manages to scan it on his computer and lets me through. Eric of course has a genuine home printed boarding pass.

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Nice mural:

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They have these coat of arms of the communities the airport serves - just like many regional airports in Finland:

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Airside:

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Only a single plane on the apron, must be our ride:

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There’s even a bit of a wait until a gate agent arrives and lets us into the gate holding pen - Eric is not amused by the number of small children on this flight. He counts the passengers 28 (plus three infants I guess).

Picture by Eric:


There’s another, larger area which is closed - I guess this is only open when they do charters (or for those DY 738s when they still ran) - there’s even a duty free store there:

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Interesting “jetway” down to the apron:

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Hello again:

Picture by Eric:
KRP - CPH
QI802
CRJ-200 OY-RJA
Seat 3A
15.58 - 16.37

I used to do a lot of these same plane turnarounds in Finland back in the days so I have a good number of stock lines I use on the crew upon reboarding to break the ice and get them over their initial confusion at seeing me again. This time I offer “It was far too foggy here, so I decided not to stay.” to the FA who is not sure whether she should laugh or cry.

Well, I grab Eric’s seat on this flight and he decides to sit on the other side.

The captain makes pretty much the same welcome speech as on the flight over, with just “Karup” being replaced by “Copenhagen”. Departure is a couple of minutes late, with the same long taxi back to 27L ahead of us.

Wow, didn’t see this thing when coming over, we both were sitting on the wrong side:

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Looks quite intimidating as it just sort of appeared out of the fog like that:

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Picture by Eric:


Hmm, which runway might this be:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Karup_Departure_12.jpg

Some more cloud shots on this flight - my seatmate (an older lady who knitted all through the flight) looked me and Eric across the aisle both snapping photos a little funnily:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Karup_Departure_13.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Karup_Departure_14.jpg

Picture by Eric:
Picture by Eric:
Picture by Eric:


The weather at Copenhagen is foggy just like before, apart from the fact that it has gotten dark so visibility is even worse. Half an hour after leaving the parking position we have landed on 22L and are taxiing towards a parking position, this time in front of the domestic terminal.

Picture by Eric:


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7618 times:

The FA asks Eric why we are doing this, he answers “Just for fun!”. I think the FA says she is off to BLL next.

Copenhagen Kastrup Airport, take 2

Another long walk back to the lounge with some shopping along the way.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_2.jpg

Some more quality time follows, and well, time just flies and eventually it is time for me to start heading to gate B6 for my KF flight to HEL. Eric is left hoping for the best regarding his flight home - the AMS weather sure hasn’t gotten any better. So we say our goodbyes - until January!

Emirates promoting their Indian routes:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_3.jpg

Upon arriving at the gate there’s quite a bunch of people there:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_4.jpg

These evening flights on Sundays are quite often overbooked so I ask the gate agent if she needs a spare seat - apparently not but she thanks me for volunteering anyway. Well it turns out she came up with her own “creative” way of solving the seating problems - she basically gives the few remaining Premium seats to anybody with a “Seat at gate” BP instead of doing her job and following the SOP and going through the upgrade pecking order. Way to go...

Anyway boarding starts right away and I walk down the jetway to OH-BLP, the second KF *A logo bird for my second flight with her.

CPH - HEL
KF656
B717 OH-BLP
Seat 3F
19.40 - 22.07

Well, as expected it is a completely full flight, there are no empty seats anywhere in the plane, including of course the gate agent’s favorite non-status pax in Premium... My seat has a wet spot of something on it:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_5.jpg

Boarding takes its sweet time due to a lot of hand luggage anywhere, but we still manage to push back bang on time for our 1h25min hop up to HEL this evening.

An Atlantic Airways Avro - flew one of these earlier this week:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_6.jpg

A foggy Swiss A321:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_7.jpg

Taking off from 22R, I think those landing lights looked kinda cool in the fog:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_8.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_9.jpg

Nothing out of the ordinary on this flight - I read the Sunday paper I nicked from the lounge, drink a cup of coffee and get shocked by the captain’s announcement that it apparently is minus eight degrees at HEL.

Thanks to the freezing temperatures our approach is very nice as these freezing nights are always very clear and come with good visibility - I have no problems making out the lights of Tallinn even during our finals for runway 15. I chat about the views with the nice Danish business guy on the middle seat, and somehow our chat just turns into a generic bashing of the ECB’s acts at handling the financial crisis and we both conclude that should things go really bad we’ll both be probably moving to Norway...  http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_10.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Zagreb_11_2011/Final_11.jpg

A jetway gate at T1 brings this flight to an end and I manage to just catch the next bus home without having to stay in the freezing air for too long.

Conclusions

Well, obviously the highlight of this weekend was a brief visit to a new country for me, Croatia and of course flying with Croatian Airlines. Zagreb looked like a very interesting city, and most of the Croatians I met were extremely friendly people. The weather of course was quite crap, so this time of the year is not really the optimal time to go there, though. Like I told the hotel receptionist/jack of all trades guy, I’ll probably come back to the Adriatic coast during the summer...

OU didn’t impress me that much - based on these two flights it is your average small airline, nothing special about it but also nothing downright bad, the worst thing I can think of is the quite cramped seating on the Airbus, but there are far worse offenders out there (one of which will be featured in my next report!). I’m not really sure what they are doing in Star Alliance, though - OS and LH pretty much cover the same destinations around the Balkans and ZAG airport isn’t exactly hub material, although it being so small transfers are bound to be rather smooth.

LH was, as usual, its high quality self. They are really doing good on these HEL routes, most of the time all the planes are packed.

Shame about the equipment change on Cimber (for Eric mainly, I’ve flown so many ATRs so a CRJ is fine with me), but these things happen. Two nice short flights to a rather exotic and interesting airport, Karup, on time despite the bad weather conditions in Denmark - very good.

And finally another hop home with Blue1 - apart from that lazy gate agent at CPH not following procedures the flight was fine with me, on time, an interesting plane in the form of the 717 and reasonably comfortable.

Oh yes, and thanks to Eric - always nice to hook up somewhere down the road! Take care and looking forward to January already!


Just two days home before it is time to fly back to Kastrup for a quick visit, catching another one of these interesting “operated by” arrangements Blue1 is so good at coming up with. The route is, what else than HEL-CPH-HEL. Happy contrails!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6938 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7505 times:

Hi P.,

I was expecting to find a new nice report from you today - very enjoyable stuff, thanks for investing lots of time yet again. Both of you took many good pictures!

OU doesn't look impressive at all and I would only try it because it's still missing in my logbook.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m not quite sure what he said as our slot time so I ask the middle aged Finnish couple next to me “Excuse me, but did you hear what the captain said our slot time was?”

Well, many people don't listen to these announcements or don't understand them...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, that’s a sort of a warm hamburger: Finnish potato bread with a minced meat patty, cheddar cheese and some tomatoes inside. Not most people’s idea of a breakfast I guess, but rather nice dish after all. I’m starting to like how LH nowadays comes up with something new on every flight I take with them

Interesting, LH doesn't cease to surprise me with the new catering concept.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It still feels so wrong:

Absolutely. They could have changed the livery at least a little bit.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Notice the flight deck crew of this 737 waiting for their ride:

Probably someone locked them out...  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Safety demo is played from the drop down screens, sadly that’s the only use they get during this flight - how hard is it to implement an airshow, come on?

You could also ask LH about that issue...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Here’s Privatair for PlaneHunter:

Thanks! It's even the one I flew on - all three frames are now based at FRA.


PH

[Edited 2011-11-26 01:24:31]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineAYA333 From Finland, joined Aug 2008, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7413 times:

Thanks for another very cool report! Have to visit Croatia (and some World Heritage Sites) later 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
The FA asks Eric why we are doing this, he answers “Just for fun!”. I think the FA says she is off to BLL next.

Should try same plane return some day. Just have to come with something funny beforehand 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Nothing out of the ordinary on this flight - I read the Sunday paper I nicked from the lounge, drink a cup of coffee and get shocked by the captain’s announcement that it apparently is minus eight degrees at HEL.

I arrived from ARN to HEL the same night. It was also quite warm in Stockholm so I was equally shocked by DY captain announcinh Helsinki temperature. Well, as you mentioned, it´s nice and clear when it´s a bit colder.

Looking forward to your next report, P!



319,320,321,333,343,388,717,732,733,735,736,73G,738,752,AB4,AR1,AR8,ATR,AT7,D9S,D10,DH4,E45,E70,E90,F27,F50,M82,M83,M90,
User currently offlineEuroWings From UK - England, joined Sep 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7256 times:

HI FF,

Thanks for another great report - they are always interesting to read!!   

LH looks like a solid performer as usual, their new short-haul 'catering concept' keeps on surprising us! I've seen biscuits, hot wraps, sandwiches, salads, toast, sausages, cereals, burgers and more...

OU doesn't look bad at all, that Airbus doesn't have a particularly appealing interior, however the Dash looks modern and sleek inside. However as you say they aren't really anything special as a carrier.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Shame about the equipment change on Cimber (for Eric mainly, I’ve flown so many ATRs so a CRJ is fine with me), but these things happen. Two nice short flights to a rather exotic and interesting airport, Karup, on time despite the bad weather conditions in Denmark - very good.

I am in your position, having flown on ATRs many times. With the CR2 becoming rarer in Europe, I'd be quite pleased to fly on one again (only flown on the type once before).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
An Atlantic Airways Avro - flew one of these earlier this week:.

To Vágar in the Faroe Islands by any chance? If so, I can't wait for the report!

Thanks
EuroWings

[Edited 2011-11-26 03:48:46]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27306 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7247 times:

Great report and a nice way to spend your birthday. Good to know they have real stuff behind the counter in the SEN
lounge  

Airline branded biscuits ! Never seen that before . Great pics of Zagreb but for me nicer to visit in Summer  


Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3361 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7228 times:

Sounds like you had a nice birthday trip! Looks like you had a nice time in Zagreb - glad you had a risotto!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, of course this wasn%u2019t enough and some weeks later there was another disturbance in the force: OS suddenly announced that it was canceling all service to HEL starting from 14th of November, in less than three weeks. They%u2019ve served VIE-HEL for as long as I can remember with two daily VO Fokkers (and sometimes the CRJs when VO still had them) and now they decided to do this - so sad! Oh, and in case it wasn%u2019t obvious my HEL-VIE flight was an OU codeshare operated by VO for OS (confusing, innit?).

Shame OS dropped HEL with such short notice. Did they ever say why? And shame Expedia were so inept (and then lied).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
well the next morning I got the updated e-ticket confirmation in my inbox around twenty minutes before that time - well done! This is exactly the way things should work. Thank you Croatian for a most welcome pre flight customer experience!

Great service from OS

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Yes, that%u2019s a sort of a warm hamburger: Finnish potato bread with a minced meat patty, cheddar cheese and some tomatoes inside
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Only at this point I realized that we are landing on the new runway - I didn%u2019t know they use it as 25R from this direction too.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Which turns out to be a Dutch-style cookie, nicely branded for OU:

Hmm, surely it's a Croatian style cookie, which just happens to be similar to a Dutch a one. I think the Croatians are quite proud of their paprenjak.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Through passport control to the international part and into the lounge. Well, I%u2019m not exactly impressed - despite this being (among other things as it is the only lounge at this airport) Croatia Airlines%u2019, a Star Alliance member flagship lounge at their home and main hub airport there%u2019s not really much here:

Interesting to see inside the lounge. When I was in ZAG in March, there was a sign up saying "Star Silver are NOT welcome!" (or something to that effect).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(9A-CQE, obviously a new plane for me)

I flew CQE PUY-ZAD-ZAG in March.



http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights:LCY-ARN-AMS-LGW,STN-OTP-AMS-YUL,YQB-JFK-LAX-DUS-STN,LGW-DXB-BKK-HKG-
User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7210 times:

Nice report, Zagreb looks nice, I definitely need ot go there. Have only been at the airport arriving from DBV and connecting to Zadar, and once I was bussed there and spent half of the night when our flight from Rijeka to Cologne couldn't land in Rijeka due to strong crosswinds. They opened the restaurant (very soviet style) on the first floor for us and served as a meal, different from vouchers  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Luckily the young guy processing me doesn’t give me any crap about traveling on my ID card (still haven’t gotten around getting a new passport) which is an official entry document for Croatia but apparently not that widely known.

Usually in Germany border agents don't care where you are going and do not want to see if you have a boarding pass. Their job is to check if you are allowed to exit the Schengen area, which you perfectly are with your ID. If you have valid documents for your destination is not important and the business of the airline.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Interesting - the taxiway actually crosses a road:

Had this in Zadar as well, although it's a public road there. A police car is coming and closes the road when a plane lands. Not as big road as in Gibraltar obiously  


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7049 times:

Hi FF!

Another high quality report from you, thanks for posting!

Looks like you had a few interesting flights across Europe. For sure some old fashioned seats on that A319.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Can’t have a report about FRA without an A380:

So every airport has its own plane that needs to be featured in a tripreport? HEL has 717, FRA has A380 etc...  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
They are everywhere:

Indeed, TK has pretty much all of Europe well covered.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wow, these Croatians sure are friendly and hospitable!

For sure seems like it, after reading your report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Finally we stop in front of the interesting looking terminal building:

Interesting looking indeed, looks rather new. Was it modern and clean?

Martin


User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6823 times:

Hi P,
I don't think I need to point out that this was yet another magnificent story, guaranteed "FF-standard". Good to see you enjoyed your time in Croatia plus met some nice people too!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So this year I decided to celebrate it by going abroad somewhere where I hadn’t been to before

Once again congratulations! And what a nice birthday trip you came up with (even though it did not include a 717 flight on your birthday....)  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’ve never been to Croatia, and it’s been on my list for quite some time so this sounded nice.

A good choice! Two summers ago I made a tour of Dubrovnik, Split and Hvar - some of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. Zagreb is new for me though, so nice to see some pics from there!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
his of course caused a lot of (bad) publicity in the Danish press by that time - I’m not sure if Cimber ever publicly admitted doing this, let alone apologized...

I read about the hassle - and let me say - it tells you everything about that airline. When Cimber still was a separate Cimber Air and operated the HEL-NRK I actually won the first prize in their competition which was a return ticket on any of their routes. That selection was of course VERY limited with pretty much only HEL-NRK and NRK-CPH available - but anyway the promised voucher never arrived and after about five emails to what seemed to be their marketing department I ended up getting a statement that Cimber Air had finished its business and that Cimber Sterling was to take over.
I guess I could've sued them for not getting my prize, I just decided I'd avoid flying with them. Except having to try them once, which happened on AMS-CPH this summer.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, a quick email to their customer care fixed this just fine and they changed me to the desired flight just like that without any further ado - you gotta love these small, flexible and no hassle airlines!

I wouldn't call them a no hassle airline after all what I've gone through with them plus all the routes they've been opening and closing in a way that would make even KF speechless!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The first arrived two months later in the form of an email from Norwegian advising me that DY is canceling the Copenhagen - Karup route

I see no sense in operating a 189-seater aircraft on such a route. The announced VAA-ARN also made me quite surprised and specially with only two weekly frequencies I find it hard for them making some money on the route. Or perhaps they're just trying and will add more frequencies later? I doubt that.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Through the A → B tunnel:

Hmm, that looks very familiar!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
The FA tells me “Enjoy your meal!” - I’m tempted to ask “What meal?”

Actually I find the Croatian catering quite good for todays' standards, but I understand it isn't a full meal.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
“What happened to the original plane?” but he doesn’t seem to understand what I’m talking about.

See, this is business as usual à la Cimber!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
I offer “It was far too foggy here, so I decided not to stay.” to the FA who is not sure whether she should laugh or cry.

Well done, that's a classic from now on!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
The FA asks Eric why we are doing this, he answers “Just for fun!”

...or then you're doing it in order to pump in some well needed ca$h into Cimber.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):

Just two days home before it is time to fly back to Kastrup for a quick visit, catching another one of these interesting “operated by” arrangements Blue1 is so good at coming up with. The route is, what else than HEL-CPH-HEL. Happy contrails!

Now that sounds interesting! But why not returning CPH-RIX-HEL? Or is there no suitable connection anymore with the Midnight Fokker/Dash/Boeing being part of the history (at least until further notice)?


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6671 times:

Hi Flying Finn,

looks like you had a good birthday, and a great weekend of flying!

Taking risks, doing a side trip in the middle of a connection? Still it turned out alright in the end.

I remember many years ago stopping in Zagreb overnight in a hostel in the middle of an interrailing trip. We actually ate in what the Lonely Planet described as "the best restaurant in Zagreb", in a hotel just to the left of the station - very fancy cuisine for the sum of £10 each, including 3 courses, drinks and tip!
Here:
http://www.regenthotels.com/EN/Zagreb/Cuisine/Zinfandel-s-Restaurant
if memory serves.
Quite the step up from the dirty hostel we stayed in!

Thanks again

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

Hi FF, excellent piece of yours here! It definitely looks to have been a worthy birthday trip. For the future I wish you great flights, hot F/As and may the lounges on your way always be well stocked with local brews.

I'm pleasantly surprised by Croatia's customer support.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, that’s a sort of a warm hamburger: Finnish potato bread with a minced meat patty, cheddar cheese and some tomatoes inside. Not most people’s idea of a breakfast I guess, but rather nice dish after all.

Uuh, really strage breakfast. Don't know if I would be able to finish that at 7 a.m.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Outside it is quite chilly, but I’m a Finn so I can of course handle it.

Wow, did not expect this weather Mid-November in Zagreb. Two months before you I spent a couple of days there on a quick late summer getaway. 30 degrees centigrade and plenty of relaxing, swimming and sunbathing at Jarun, a great inner-city lake. Came in by train from Belgrade, left with EZY.

I can also fully second your comments about the hospitable Croatian people. I couchsurfed there and had the greatest time with my hosts and their friends.

Thanks for sharing!


User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 427 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6551 times:

Hi FlyingFinn76 and Happy Birthday ... I wish you health and happiness and lots lots lots of trip reports( it is for me ) !

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Thank you Croatian for a most welcome pre flight customer experience!

Customer service is always very professional ... sometimes offer such odd combinations as if they do not care about profits ... of course thru star alliance

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It still feels so wrong:

completely agree ... horrible cocktail ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
on my ID card (still haven’t gotten around getting a new passport) which is an official entry document for Croatia but apparently not that widely known.

yes the EU and Bosnia and Herzegovina citizens

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the agent starts his well rehearsed script “...this Lufthansa flig...” until he realizes that nope, that wasn’t quite right and starts again with “... this Croatia Airlines flight to Zagreb...”.

hahahaha ... this little lapsus gives you answers to to many questions about OU

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A business friendly older purser is greeting passengers in the front galley. The FA in the back galley is not friendly at all, I say loudly “Good morning!” when getting to my seat on the last row and she hides away in the galley behind a gossip magazine. Glad to see you enjoying your job so much!

hihihih excellent provocation ... I admit sometimes the crew is really absent but most are friendly and very professional ... ah standard ... hits or miss

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Blue cloth seats - a bit old fashioned, making this bird look far older than its 11 years - it was the last A319 delivered to OU factory fresh back in 2000.

I agree with you but design is not so bad ... business part is quite comfortable with 36" so next time you book your seat immediately after the curtain
OU will start to introduce the NEK in the beginning of 2012 for A320 and 4 new A319 aircraft with NEK will be delivered from 2012 - 2014

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
They definitely make a point about being ready for the EU - all the government offices boasted dual Croatian - EU flags


government now promoting the EU on all fronts and people are indifferent

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I found where the local buses depart from the Zagreb train station (confusingly they don’t use the bus station) and board the local bus to Velika Gorica (only under 1.50 EUR, great value for money as it is only around a kilometer to the airport from one of the stops).

this is local-commuting bus and the local-bus station is connected with railway station and local-commuting trains and the city public transport ... The main bus station is not far away and serve inter-city buses and airport bus ( it would be better to be located on local-bus station )

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wow, these Croatians sure are friendly and hospitable!

Yeah heheehe ... generally we are ... and here's an example ... I am so angry I was in Zagreb last weekend with birthday cake and dinner and where are you ... hehehe ... outrageous FF76 in Croatia and no A.net meeting

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the deserted domestic part of the terminal

and my coffee machine hehehe

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, I’m not exactly impressed - despite this being (among other things as it is the only lounge at this airport) Croatia Airlines’, a Star Alliance member flagship lounge at their home and main hub airport there’s not really much here

we have Diners Club lounge on landside ... I agree with you the lounge offer in whole Croatia is below the standard but space is the biggest problem ... ZAG is planning a new terminal http://www.igh.hr/en/projekti.asp?pID=219 and the current is planning to expand to the east ( new checking area plus reorganization ) http://antekuzmanic-arhitekt.hr/radovi/zlz-d13.html&tag=prometna ... roll-over to the right for visualization

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
there’s no exchange bureau airside

come on ... you have to spend HRK hehehe but not on alcohol

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The Dash feels much newer and fresher than the Airbus yesterday

I think OU will use the same design on the NEK

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Two youngish female FAs, quite interestingly the purser is a colored girl - nothing racist about it but I thought that kind of thing was really rare around here?

many students from "non-aligned" countries are decided to continue living in Croatia ... so mixed marriages produce very interesting people  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The FA tells me “Enjoy your meal!” - I’m tempted to ask “What meal?”... Drinks are also offered, followed by another drinks run with a chocolate bar:

heheheh she's lost orientation where she is ... not 100% sure but reason is... OU serving on flight duration longer than 1 hour and 36 minutes: cold breakfast until 11 o’clock local time ( http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/croatia/CIMG6253.jpg ) or cold lunch after 11 o’clock local time ( http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/croatia/CIMG5976.jpg ) and this is on A319/320 ...Dash-8 galley is to small for that service so croissant with weird green paste inside is replacement ... photo from gabrielchew report ( Croatian Airlines, LHR-ZAG,PUY-ZAD-ZAG-LHR (by gabrielchew Apr 7 2011 in Trip Reports) )

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the First Officer makes a short speech

The OU cockpit is always talkative so very strange

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
OU didn’t impress me that much - based on these two flights it is your average small airline, nothing special about it but also nothing downright bad

I agree with you ... only on some flight provide non-standard catering for economy class


Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m not really sure what they are doing in Star Alliance, though - OS and LH pretty much cover the same destinations around the Balkans and ZAG airport isn’t exactly hub material, although it being so small transfers are bound to be rather smooth.
ZAG and OU have never even tried to become hub for Balkan or ex-yu ...
1. a couple of connections have been developed for internal purposes ( SJJ ,SKP, PRN or TGD ) and to halp LH in markets where there is no potential for second LH flight where they appear as yet another Star options competing with Malev ,CSA ,JAT or Montenegro Airlines
2.OU feeds LH and other Star partners in markets such as SPU DBV ZAD and PUY during the winter ...yes this is not a big market, but why give it away , SPU 7xFRA and 4xMUC are full , profitable don't know but that's OU problem ( smart LH )
3. We are a small country with 4.4 million people and 5.3 million air passengers per year ...yes small numbers but the market is growing and with great potential during the summer and LH through the OU control the market ... Star domination is visible during the summer Lufthansa ( Germanwings ) , SAS ,TAP , Turkish ,SpanAir and OU (and Croats are very loyal and conservative travelers)
4. Policy is an integral part of airlines business especially in the globalization we are a German spheres of interest.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the Adriatic coast during the summer...


I'm still waiting ...stipica  

[Edited 2011-11-26 12:07:27]

[Edited 2011-11-26 12:10:05]

[Edited 2011-11-26 12:14:24]


Open your eyes and think
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 720 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

Hi P.,

great trip report as usual. Good idea to spend your birthday in a new country, even with a new airline on the way and with some a.net company on top, well done. Just shame about the weather, but well, it is November after all.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, that’s a sort of a warm hamburger: Finnish potato bread with a minced meat patty, cheddar cheese and some tomatoes inside.

That looks good, certainly not your typical German breakfast, but indeed nice by LH to try something new.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Only at this point I realized that we are landing on the new runway - I didn’t know they use it as 25R from this direction too.

They would never ever build a runway in FRA which is only usable in one direction   Err, oh well...    But indeed, landing in this direction adds quite a bit of taxi time I guess.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Ahh, this is the life:

  Very nice, what a great way to celebrate ones birthday...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This apron near runway 18 is always good for some of the more exotic carriers:

Hmm, Somon Air, never heard of them before, got to check it out.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Which turns out to be a Dutch-style cookie, nicely branded for OU:

That's a nice touch, really like it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’ll probably come back to the Adriatic coast during the summer...

Yes, you should, the scenery there is very beautiful, also some nice small towns there. I have once been there with some friends and we hired a small sail boat to sail along the coast with its many small islands, very enjoyable.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
OU didn’t impress me that much - based on these two flights it is your average small airline, nothing special about it but also nothing downright bad,

Yes, I have done two flights with them (FRA-SPU and back a couple of years ago) and that was my impression as well. They are certainly ok, but nothing really special. I would fly them again if the fares are ok.

Thanks again for this report and of course once again congratulations for you birthday, wishing you many more happy, successful and interesting flights in the coming year  

CaptainRed


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6413 times:

Good evening Petteri (at least for me it is evening now!),

Quite an extended report you put together here, lots of work obviously and therefore greatly appreciated as well!
Weatherwise this trip is not quite memorable but at least you got to score some points again with a new country and carrier. On a last minute deal last summer I was to fly to Split on OU for a holiday but the whole thing was blown off in last instance because my son was sick. Good thing I did not book yet cause that would've involved quite some (financial not the least) trouble...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, pretty much all of those tickets were booked by what turned out to be Cimber employees traced to the Cimber head office network IP addresses

If this is true I find this a very low by the ground operation from Cimber...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Thank you Croatian for a most welcome pre flight customer experience!

That's very nice indeed!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Only at this point I realized that we are landing on the new runway - I didn’t know they use it as 25R from this direction too.

Great, but due to the long taxi, I'd prefer this one in the 07's direction.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It still feels so wrong

Tell that to user MSS658, he still had wet eyes from it  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This apron near runway 18 is always good for some of the more exotic carriers

Somon Air, I remember that one from my 1st trip to HEL this year.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
there’s some sort of odd green paste inside

It was not plain & simple pesto?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
nicely branded for OU

That's a cool collector's item.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
In the bus station I spot this bus - this one’s for Jonas - business class travel for probably a very good price:

Lol! That's a good one (sorry Jonas  ).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I love funiculars:

Funiculi, funiculi, funiculi, funiculaaaaar.... lalalalala (sorry, here I go again...)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Leather seats here

Nice colors.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Picture by Eric:

No offensive to your photo skills Petteri, but quite a contrast with Eric's pics. And now you say: he has a better camera  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
an older lady who knitted all through the flight

Some people read, other people... well, knit   

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6671 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6149 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

Thanks for a very nice report with nice pictures ! Sorry for the late reply; I flew LAX-IAD to drop off my son that was here visiting. My first flights since my transplant and going there was great in a bulk head row with the middle seat open; I barely got on for the return but at least Y+.......Just to give you guys in Europe about the distance: LAX-IAD is about the same distance as ARN-THR.....

Good to add something new for your birthday like a new country and a new carrier.

Nice meal on LH although probably more suited for lunch.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It still feels so wrong:



I'm so used to that already that it doesn't seem strange at all. Continental will be gone in a few days so it will be less confusing then.

Really bad weather both in ZAG, CPH and KRP......I agree that I much rather have a bit colder which makes it clear rather than warmer and foggy.

Nice to meet up with Eric for two flights but too bad for him with the equipment change.

OU looks okay and nice that at least your get a sandwich and a chocolate bar.

The terminal in KRP doesn't look too beautiful......

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6084 times:

Hi P.,

What a birthday treat you have presented yourself. Including side trip to KRP with Eric.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, a quick email to their customer care fixed this just fine and they changed me to the desired flight just like that without any further ado - you gotta love these small, flexible and no hassle airlines! Try that with Ryanair!

Good comparison.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, that’s a sort of a warm hamburger

I am craving for one.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After the breakfast I put some mellow tunes on my Ipod

Do you want to share me which ones?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the young Turkish bartender

Is he the one on the picture? He must be a good looking guy!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(luckily the FAs couldn’t care less if I kept my seat reclined all throughout take off and landing...):

That was fair enough.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The soon-to-be-opened “A plus” pier

Could it be the extension of A380 terminal with separate premium lounge at the gate?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
it is a choice of drinks (Croatian beer, yay)

Poured in a cup with nicely designed bottom.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
not relly snow but frost anyway

Early for the region.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Interesting - the taxiway actually crosses a road:

Like GIB.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Emirates promoting their Indian routes:

Your next adventure perhaps after Colombia?


Thanks for sharing.

Best (birthday) wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6012 times:

Hi FlyingFinn76

Looks like you had an interesting birthday trip. I particularly liked the pictures you took of Zagreb. I think I might have to visit some time soon.

Croatia Airlines doesn't look half bad. Interesting to see they still serve food and even something sweet. As for Frankfurt, When I passed through on my way to Edinburgh I used the same lounge, and I think it must have been around the same time of day. But the lounge was not at all crowded. Sure there were quite a few people hanging around, but not that many!

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5997 times:

Hi guys,

Good to see so many replies, kiitos and keep 'em coming!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
I was expecting to find a new nice report from you today

Hmm, am I getting a bit too predictable, perhaps?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
OU doesn't look impressive at all and I would only try it because it's still missing in my logbook.

My sentiments exactly. I mean there's nothing fundamentally wrong with them so if they fit my plans and offer a good enough fare I'd fly with them, but I really wouldn't go out of my way to do it anymore...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Probably someone locked them out...

Could be  . I've actually always wondered how do you lock airplanes? Is there a keyhole somewhere? Do the modern ones like A388 and 787 have a remote control like all cars nowadays have? 
Quoting AYA333 (Reply 4):
Should try same plane return some day. Just have to come with something funny beforehand

I've got a good stock of these answers, I'll gladly lease some of them you. Let's say 50 EUR per line plus VAT for unlimited usage rights, deal?

Quoting EuroWings (Reply 5):
LH looks like a solid performer as usual, their new short-haul 'catering concept' keeps on surprising us! I've seen biscuits, hot wraps, sandwiches, salads, toast, sausages, cereals, burgers and more...

Yeah, I'm really starting to like the variety. LH Shothaul is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you are about to get! A far cry from the earlier catering where you could end up with that same pasta meal on every flight - a friend of mine did HEL-FRA-AGP-FRA-AGP for a holiday and got the same pasta dish four times... he wasn't exactly amused by that!

Quoting EuroWings (Reply 5):
To Vágar in the Faroe Islands by any chance? If so, I can't wait for the report!

No, sorry. It was one of these special Blue1 subleases they are so good at. Just a domestic hop between HEL and OUL so nothing special to report. If you want to read about one such trip I took half a year ago you are welcome to check out this one:

Atlantic Blue: HEL-OSL (by FlyingFinn76 Mar 25 2011 in Trip Reports)

Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
Good to know they have real stuff behind the counter in the SEN
lounge

Yes, I didn't know either and never dared to ask the bartenders.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 7):
glad you had a risotto!

Well, someone influenced me quite heavily regarding that...  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 7):
Shame OS dropped HEL with such short notice. Did they ever say why? And shame Expedia were so inept (and then lied).

No, I haven't seen any official announcement. Probably the good old crap about it not being sustainable blah blah. I REALLY hope Niki will use this opportunity to launch HEL-VIE, wouldn't mind seeing their E-jets here.

Quoting reifel (Reply 8):
If you have valid documents for your destination is not important and the business of the airline.

Yeah, I was just thinking that the definition of "valid documents" does depend on your destination - i.e. an EU ID card is fine for UK or Croatia, but of course not for Canada or Brazil or whatever, and I think the border guards must know this.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 9):
So every airport has its own plane that needs to be featured in a tripreport? HEL has 717, FRA has A380 etc...

So it seems. I'm good at developing these traditions and then sticking to them!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 9):
Indeed, TK has pretty much all of Europe well covered.

I was at GOT last week and got a minor shock after realizing that they nowadays fly there as well!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 9):
Interesting looking indeed, looks rather new. Was it modern and clean?

Well, it is Denmark. Everything's modern and clean there. Well apart from the public toilets at Kastrup...

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 10):
I guess I could've sued them for not getting my prize, I just decided I'd avoid flying with them. Except having to try them once, which happened on AMS-CPH this summer.

Hmm, that doesn't sound at all like the Cimber I know. Sure once they rescheduled a flight without telling me (coincidentally that was NRK-CPH, part of a HEL-NRK-CPH-HEL trip) and forced me to spend the night at CPH and throwaway the midnight KF flight back to HEL I had a ticket for, but I sent them an email and they even apologized.

Maybe things in that company were just so messed up due to the Sterling merger at that time...

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 10):
. The announced VAA-ARN also made me quite surprised and specially with only two weekly frequencies I find it hard for them making some money on the route. Or perhaps they're just trying and will add more frequencies later? I doubt that.

Well, the good part about DY is that they offer connections. So in addition to O/D passengers they do pick up some connecting traffic as well. But yes, it is the same story as with TKU-ARN - they will try it out for a while and then depending on the performance either drop the route or increase the frequencies. The best part is that this will force KF to reduce their fares - VAA - ARN can be quite an expensive hop. I flew it once with the Avro and am of course booked on the ARN-VAA inaugural flight on DY in April...

Quoting signol (Reply 11):
Taking risks, doing a side trip in the middle of a connection? Still it turned out alright in the end.

Well, "risk" is my middle name, considering some of my crazier itineraries. But it was all a calculated risk (as always) - a same plane turnaround with plenty of padding at both ends. And Cimber usually is very punctual. In the worst case scenario I could've always just aborted the whole thing at CPH and not boarded the plane at all...

Eric did paint some horror scenarios about the plane being able to land at KRP but not take off due to the fog, but luckily I'm not easily scared.

Quoting signol (Reply 11):
very fancy cuisine for the sum of £10 each, including 3 courses, drinks and tip!

Yes, food was very good value there.

Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
For the future I wish you great flights, hot F/As and may the lounges on your way always be well stocked with local brews.

Thanks! Although sometimes I feel like I should take a couple of months break from all this travel... But based on my current schedules the earliest opening is in May 2012 ...  
Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
Uuh, really strage breakfast. Don't know if I would be able to finish that at 7 a.m.

At least it was beef. I can't understand those McD breakfast burgers made out of pork!

Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
Two months before you I spent a couple of days there on a quick late summer getaway. 30 degrees centigrade

Wow, certainly something different this time.

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
Hi FlyingFinn76 and Happy Birthday ... I wish you health and happiness and lots lots lots of trip reports( it is for me ) !

Hvala!

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
sometimes offer such odd combinations as if they do not care about profits ... of course thru star alliance

Yeah, as a nice bonus for me they rebooked me on higher fare classes which meant I got the full mileage for the outbound flights.

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
I admit sometimes the crew is really absent but most are friendly and very professional ... ah standard ... hits or miss

True, happens with every airline out there.

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
OU will start to introduce the NEK in the beginning of 2012 for A320 and 4 new A319 aircraft with NEK will be delivered from 2012 - 2014

Ahh, good to know this. I wonder if will be similar to LH's NEK.

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
The main bus station is not far away and serve inter-city buses and airport bus ( it would be better to be located on local-bus station )

Yes, I thought of this as well. Arriving from the airport it is a bit of a walk to the centre from that bus station.

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
I am so angry I was in Zagreb last weekend with birthday cake and dinner and where are you ... hehehe ... outrageous FF76 in Croatia and no A.net meeting

Sorry, I couldn't find you in all that fog!

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):

we have Diners Club lounge on landside ..

Yes, I saw that but figured out that the Croatia Star lounge must be better. Is the DC one any good?

Good to know they have plans for a new terminal.

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
come on ... you have to spend HRK hehehe but not on alcohol

Well there's only so much chocolate a man can carry! Plus they didn't have that much interesting stuff in the shop.

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
ZAG and OU have never even tried to become hub for Balkan or ex-yu ...

Thanks for that analysis. OU seems to have quite a close relationship with LH - do they own a share of the company?

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 14):
That looks good, certainly not your typical German breakfast, but indeed nice by LH to try something new.

Well it is not a typical Finnish breakfast either, I can tell you that!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 14):
Hmm, Somon Air, never heard of them before, got to check it out.

Tajikistan.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 14):
Yes, you should, the scenery there is very beautiful, also some nice small towns there.

I've admired it from above when overflying the Adriatic a couple of times - amazing number of islands down there for sure.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 14):
Thanks again for this report and of course once again congratulations for you birthday, wishing you many more happy, successful and interesting flights in the coming year

Danke Schön!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 15):
Somon Air, I remember that one from my 1st trip to HEL this year.

Not at HEL I guess?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 15):
there’s some sort of odd green paste inside
It was not plain & simple pesto?

Nope, it was spicier and tasted different than any pesto I've ever had.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 15):
nicely branded for OU
That's a cool collector's item.

Sorry, I ate it. And have digested it a long time ago.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 15):
No offensive to your photo skills Petteri, but quite a contrast with Eric's pics. And now you say: he has a better camera

He does. And probably far better photo editing skills than me as well. I'm learning, though.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
Sorry for the late reply;

What late reply? You replied less than 20 hours after posting this?  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
My first flights since my transplant and going there was great in a bulk head row with the middle seat open;

Congratulations. Hopefully you will soon be capable of some nice triple seven hunting trips around the world! We really need a report on the Biman ones and maybe a Transaero as well!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
ust to give you guys in Europe about the distance: LAX-IAD is about the same distance as ARN-THR.....

I know. I flew a redeye LAX-JFK once, on an AA 762 - that sure was a blast from the past!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
The terminal in KRP doesn't look too beautiful......

Beautiful it ain't - I think "functional" is the word here.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Yes, that’s a sort of a warm hamburger
I am craving for one.

Surely there's a McD or a BK nearby?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
After the breakfast I put some mellow tunes on my Ipod
Do you want to share me which ones?

Can't remember, but at least the new Nightwish single has been playing almost non stop for me. Still three days to wait for that album to come out....

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
the young Turkish bartender
Is he the one on the picture? He must be a good looking guy!

That's the one. A reason for you to get *G?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Poured in a cup with nicely designed bottom.

Yes, those cups were used on both flights.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):
Emirates promoting their Indian routes:
Your next adventure perhaps after Colombia?

Let's see. I almost booked a flight to BOM some years ago as I found a very nice deal, including flying DL/NW AMS-BOM, but instead used the money to go to Moldova and Ukraine as just sounded a bit more interesting and allowed me to log six new carriers on one trip  


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5840 times:

Hi Petteri

First of all Happy Birthday (again) and thanks for bringing us along on your Zagreb trip. It looked pretty cold down there (otherwise I'd guess the thread would not be called "Freezing Zagreb". OU seems to be ok, tough the Dash looks better!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It still feels so wrong:

I feel the same way about it, coming in on N77006 in August (PMCO aircraft) beside another PMUA aircraft but in the new United livery gave a weird feel. 2 totally different airlines who look alike...


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6671 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5769 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 19):
Congratulations. Hopefully you will soon be capable of some nice triple seven hunting trips around the world! We really need a report on the Biman ones and maybe a Transaero as well!



Thanks! Biman currently loosely planned for May but could happen sooner. I have no plans of flying Transaero since they got their 777s second-hand and I have decided not to fly scedon-hand 777s as I'd be doing that for all infinity.

I plan to start flying more airlines soon and add new countries to my list.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5702 times:

Hi Petteri!

I read this TR in "batches" during my morning commute and, finally, I'm back on a normal PC and therefore I can comment it without having to use one of those dreadful touchscreen (I'm too low-tech I think).

However, your Croatian weekend looked very interesting. I never thought that Zagreb could be so nice: I've seen a little bit of Croatia, Fiume and Ragusa (Rijeka and Dubrovnik I think) when looking for some old relatives of mine but those towns looks SO different from Zagreb! While you can't mistake their Mediterranean origin, the capital looks like coming from Hungary or Czech Republic. I guess I'd give Zagreb a go sometimes.

Secondly, I'm quite disappointed by Croatian. The airline livery (and some pictures you see on press releases or on the M&M web page) gave it some kind of "Ipod feel" which isn't matched by the old school interior, at least on the A320s.

Keep them coming, but I guess you don't need too much encouragement!

Fabrizio


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5638 times:

Hi, P.,

great stuff again. Sure a high quality read and good to meet up with Eric.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Crotia

Sounds interesting!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
ks to competition between Norwegian and Cimber on this route and finally it would be another new airport for my log.

Good choice.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Soon enough I walk down the jetway for my first flight with the 136th airline in my log.

Congrats, something new is always nice.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Interesting neighbour, dedicated to Markus who flew BAS here some years ago:

Saw it again at BUD two weeks ago.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Well, since someone mentioned Markus here’s another one:

My style, you know.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Outside it is quite chilly, but I’m a Finn so I can of course handle it.

Puh, I remember these benches with sun and a couple of more centigrades around.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

I love funiculars:

Count me in.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Here’s another one for Markus:

That´s what I like.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
No chance to get underwing shots for Markus on a bird this low (at least without getting our clothes dirty):

I will check it the next time.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5583 times:

Hej P.!

It's good to read your complete report, although we talked already about this trip. Nice to see all the pics from Croatia of course! I was really surprised to see the frosty climate already in Croatia!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So I have a birthday. Even once per year. Yeah, I know - might come as a bit of a shock to some of you readers, but that%u2019s the way things are and I%u2019m not getting any younger either!

Young enough to travel some serious trips up in the air! Gratz!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A bit later I was discussing upcoming travel with my mate and fellow a.netter Eric (airbuseric) and the fact that he had never flown with an ATR-42 came up. Well, I told him about my Cimber flight, we worked out some flights and before I knew it he was booked on the same flights as me to and from KRP, with LOT and SK taking him to and from CPH. Well done.

You know, some flightplanning is done quickly if I like the idea  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, that%u2019s a sort of a warm hamburger: Finnish potato bread with a minced meat patty, cheddar cheese and some tomatoes inside. Not most people%u2019s idea of a breakfast I guess,

Definitely not my taste in the morning...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, the friendly lad is immediately into it and tells me that those are %u201Cjust prosecco, sir.%u201D and %u201CI have something better for you!%u201D. This sounds good, and indeed he pulls out a bottle of champagne from the fridge, empties it to a glass, opens another one and fills the glass, handing it to me with %u201CEnjoy, anything else, sir?%u201D.

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
In economy class there%u2019s none (d%u2019oh!)

 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There%u2019s no free wireless either, just some cables where one can plug in their own laptop. Oh, and of course no computers.

Quite dissappointing, it's 2011 and their home airport  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Again the first sight of the ground comes just seconds before touchdown on 22L:

That was some serious flying for the crew indeed! Impressive

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Next I find Eric right where we agreed to meet, in front of the SAS lounge complex, probably leeching off their wifi

What else! Always a good way to waste some time

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Although our plan is almost shattered at the entrance as Eric hands the girl his QI boarding pass instead of the SK one for the evening. The girl is very confused and tells me that she should refuse entry as our next flight is not an SK one but the QI one but she will make an exception this time (yeah, how many times have I heard this one before...).

My mistake since it was on SK stock printed as well. They can't let behind such good customers after all 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Eric is of course a bit disappointed at this - but after seeing the registration of OY-RJA he thinks this might be one of the CRJ-100s of which QI still has quite a few in their fleet. Well, upon looking it up later I%u2019m sorry to disappoint him, but no, it is a -200 model.

Well, as said by others, the CRJ200 gets rarer too. I count myself 'lucky' after all.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
The FA asks Eric why we are doing this, he answers %u201CJust for fun!%u201D. I think the FA says she is off to BLL next.

Indeed, BLL was next for her. Quite a boring working day for her with those domestic hops.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 2):
Eric is left hoping for the best regarding his flight home - the AMS weather sure hasn%u2019t gotten any better. So we say our goodbyes - until January!

See you in ARN and we'll drink again in TLL!

Greetings,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
25 Post contains images dkdaviator : hi FF, A belated "Happy Birthday!" to you. That's a nice report there on your b-day travel adventures. Seems like it was a good time overall with visi
26 MarcoPoloWorld : Another great trip report that takes us (who are not as lucky as you are) to the odd, but most interesting, parts of Europe and beyond. Kiitos paljon
27 Post contains images LH4116 : Hello P as in ... sorry couldn't come up with anything this time, feeling quite sleepy now. Great report as always Now this is the kind of fares I lik
28 Post contains images MH017 : Hej P. Kiitos for this enjoyable TR !!! Considering these weather conditions, you were very lucky to fly on time and without diversions !!! Glad to se
29 Post contains images SloAir : Hey FF, I was looking forward to this report and it made a very interesting read, as expected That looks very good, although not really something I wo
30 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi guys, Good to see more comments, lovely. Thank you! What's more fun than that?! That's cool, hope to see some nice reports as well. Well, there's q
31 Palmjet : Nice report and pics FF! Seems like OU was a very average experience. The lounge looked very disappointing. I can't believe the lounge did not have fr
32 Post contains images JL418 : It was one of the marketing formula that stuck into my head during lessons... You see, if something it's cool, sleek and is white like an Ipod perhap
33 Post contains images infodesk : Hi P, Good to read about your birthday celebrations in ZAG and your time with Eric. Trust you to find time to fit in a side trip to Karup, great plann
34 Post contains images sultanils : not at HEL but at FRA. It was our neighbour while boarding the LH A321 inbound to HEL. Sultanils
35 The777Man : and time to start exploring new faraway places. The777Man
36 Post contains links and images stipica : Hi P. ! As far as I know ... the same with trim-design of dasha-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y2BSY18b-E ... during the presentation, NEK-LH in ZA
37 dkdaviator : I'm not too familiar with ORD, but the one at DTW does have a lot of light effects going on (at least when I was transiting through), so it might be
38 Post contains images LXM83 : Hello again FlyingFinn! Wow, looks interesting, at least the part with the meat and cheese... I'm not into tomatoes at all. I'm impressed! Other airli
39 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi folks, Good to see more comments, thank you! And most of the lounges in Spain in general... although the one at PMI actually had free wireless, whe
40 Post contains images SloAir : It was opened at the end of 2006 so it's not all that new anymore, but you have 'just' missed it. I like to take the funicular up and then walk down
41 Post contains images stipica : You should not apologize for your opinion because it is not offensive ... every war increases nationalism ... but I think nationalism is a tool of eve
42 Post contains images Parton87 : Hello Petteri! Thanks for the nice report with some interesting flights! I think I would never come up with such a routing with all these different ai
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