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Danish Blue: HEL-CPH With A DAT MD-87  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Posted (3 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6716 times:

Introduction

Blue1 never fails to surprise me. In addition to appearing to have no solid overall strategy at all, starting and ending routes at random and playing shenanigans with their fare structures they seem to have really messed up their fleet strategy as well. So if one sees a non common visitor at HEL nowadays, a safe bet is always to assume that it is operating for KF. DAT (Danish Air Transport) has been flying for KF on and off for years with their colorful planes - the ATR 72 on ARN-TMP/TKU (I flew the TKU route some years ago) and their MD-87 subbing for various flights ex-HEL. That MD-87 sure has been on my TOFLY list ever since I saw it first time at HEL. The problem was that these substitutions were basically made at an ad hoc, last minute basis and they did not appear on the schedules at all, so planning to catch one was basically impossible and no matter how much I’ve liked to I just don’t have the time and money to book tons of random KF flights, hoping for the best.

Well, a couple of weeks ago things changed as suddenly the schedules were showing “Operated by DAT” for some KF rotations, mainly to CPH and OSL. That was a cue for me to finally do it and patch together an itinerary to try this colorful old lady. Of course booking at a short notice fares were far more than I was willing to pay, so after matching an opening in my calendar and the flight schedules I burned some EuroBonus points for a one way award flight HEL-CPH on the 16.00 flight on a Tuesday afternoon. 7200 points and 13,50 EUR for airport fees - you just can’t help but love EB as it does not try to cheat you and charge fuel surcharges as “taxes”!

To get back I booked the DY evening flight (DY has recently gone double daily on the HEL-CPH route on most weekdays, with a perfect schedule for day trips: early morning departure ex-HEL, late night arrival back). Cost was very reasonable 43 EUR (as a comparison KF wanted around 250 EUR for a one way ticket at the same short notice...).

This is the third report in this series, for the earlier ones see these:
- Atlantic Blue: HEL-OSL (by FlyingFinn76 Mar 25 2011 in Trip Reports)
- Augsburg Blue: HEL-RVN (by FlyingFinn76 May 2 2011 in Trip Reports)

Tuesday 22.11.2011

So it is another day where I sneak out of the office earlier than the norm, catch the airport bus from the nearby stop and actually arrive to the airport in very good time, around 1h15mins ahead of the flight - the improvements they have made to one of the main trunk roads in the area and one of the most congested ones in the country have indeed paid off! Anyway I head through the fast track lane, check out the gate and then hit the lounge.

14A is a bus gate - actually I’m happy to see it this time as it means more photo opportunities of that colorful Danish bird:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_1.jpg

The lounge is packed, luckily I manage to find a spare workdesk where I can try to finish some unfinished work and of course nibble at the offerings. I really like these sausages they have been offering pretty much every afternoon I’ve been here for the last couple of weeks:

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Around 25 minutes before the SDT I take a glance at the FIDS and am a bit surprised to see “Final Call” already there. So I quickly gather my trash, say to the lounge agent (who said to me “Oh, you are on your way again!” when entering the lounge): “I’ll be back tomorrow morning!” and head to the gate.

Most of the passengers are already gone, I assume they are waiting in the bus. The gate agent, a youngish girl with the most outrageous oversized glasses gives me the eye for a long time and finally asks “Aren’t you the one from that TV show?” - well, I have to admit that indeed it is me  .

Looks like the first bus is already gone and we actually have to wait in the stairway for the second one - this hasn’t happened to me before here!

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Soon enough the second bus shows up, we wait a while for the last ones and ride towards our plane. Sorry for this bad shot, but here’s Flybe Nordic’s newest plane, OH-ATO delivered just a few days before and still butt naked:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_4.jpg

Ahh, here we go:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_5.jpg

My my, isn’t that a nice livery:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_6.jpg

I selected row 24 from the OLCI as I wanted the real Mad Dog experience, meaning a seat near the engine. Since that is near the back and the back ramp is actually open I decide to try my luck. I half expect the ramp agent overseeing the boarding to yell at me, but nothing happens:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_7.jpg

Bugger, the inner door is closed:

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For a while I contemplate about just climbing up and then casually knocking on the door and saying “Boo!” to whoever would open the door but somehow that doesn’t sound like the brightest idea after all.

Instead I head back to the front door, tail between my legs. I say to the ramp agent that I just wanted to board that way, he seems to understand my weird passion.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_10.jpg

These “things” underneath the wing look like drops of water or your uvula:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_11.jpg

HEL - CPH
KF643
MD-87 OY-JRU
Seat 24F
16.00 - 16.26

This time I’m the very last one to board. A rather senior, grandmother-style Danish (as is the whole crew) purser is waiting on the door. I say to her “I tried to board through the back door but it was closed!” - she says to me in that “Grandmother to grandson authoritative voice”: “But you are not allowed to go running around like that!”, “Well, I just did!” - her expression is quite worth seeing actually  .

The whole cabin has that musky, well used, old plane smell. Not bad like the typical “Fokker smell” on the airBaltic Fokkers, but just of something that’s been used for far too long.

The seats are definitely interesting:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_12.jpg

Nice use of the DAT logo:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_13.jpg

Getting to my seat is a frustrating affair as the load in economy is good, around 90% and all the overhead bins are already very full so people have trouble finding places for their stuff. There are ten rows of Premium class which is around half full.

That red seat belt is a nice touch - probably the same one that Air Berlin uses:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_14.jpg

Finally I get to my seat, and notice quite an abysmal legroom:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_15.jpg

Seriously, this is even worse than JK and VY which I sampled two weeks ago. There’s basically no way for me to sit in a position where my knees wouldn’t touch the seat in front of me. At least the middle seat stays free, so that is a slight solace. The guy on the aisle seat has similar thoughts - he is around the same height (181 cm) as me, and doesn’t look too comfortable either!

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_16.jpg

Third of an safety card for Markus:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_17.jpg

DAT’s own inflight magazine in addition to KF’s Dream is in the seat pocket:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_19.jpg

Yep, not exactly the latest generation of controls:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_20.jpg

While still settling down the captain welcomes everybody on board “This Blue1 and Star Alliance flight to Copenhagen”, I don’t think he mentions DAT at all. 1h25mins to go today, with some strong winds at the CPH end to be expected.

Now this is the classic MD-87 view:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_18.jpg

Engine startup is VERY noisy.

Departure is bang on time, with take off from 22R eleven minutes later. At take off the noise gets far worse, but then again I chose this seat just for this purpose.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_21.jpg

Take off is as powerful as one can expect from these good old tail-engined ladies - a very steep angle of ascent and feeling of power. Reminds me of the good old Finnair DC9-50s I used to fly a lot some ten years ago!

That light sure is a bright one:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_22.jpg

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Some thick clouds - no view of the wing at all and that tiny spot is the same bright light at the end of the wing:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_24.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Departure_25.jpg

After getting airborne I realize something weird - the overhead vent is blasting air right into my neck. And yes, looks like these vents indeed are very much disaligned from the seats, I guess as part of their refurbishing project DAT added a few additional rows which caused this effect. These are our row’s controls - the bald head belongs to my seat mate on the aisle seat:



The beautiful Mad Dog wing:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_1.jpg

The good part about these flights is that the foreign crews have not been trained to use the POS terminals and thus there’s no BOB. So in addition to the coffee I also ask and get a free red wine:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_2.jpg

Last time on that RC flight to OSL they were also handing out sandwiches, but those seem to have been (cost) cut. Well, no biggie for me as I ate in the lounge anyway.

The guy on the aisle seat asks me if I’m an engineer as I took so many pictures of the plane and all the fixtures. Well, a software engineer is still an engineer so I admit that yes, I’m one and try to explain what is special about this plane - but as usual this is not really understood by the other party...

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_3.jpg

Some reading later we are already on descent for Kastrup over Skåne:

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Landing is on 22L after a flight time of 1h15mins.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_7.jpg

Looks like the funky Christmas tree is back, sorry for the blurry pictures:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_8.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_9.jpg

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A bit later we dock to gate B6, the same gate through which I left Kastrup the last time less than 48 hours earlier.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_11.jpg

I wait until everyone else has deboarded and shoot a few photos:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_12.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_13.jpg

I say to one of the FAs that it is a very special plane and I’m here just to fly with it. She is very surprised by this and asks “But you didn’t know it was going to be this plane?”
- “I did, of course.”
- “But how?”
- “From the schedule.”
- “Really??”

Looks like she is used to the usual ad hoc working mode  .

Copenhagen Kastrup Airport

A couple of photos from the terminal:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_14.jpg

DAT the Red Nosed Mad Dog:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_15.jpg

Next I head to the transfer center, get checked in for my Norwegian flight home four hours later, ask for and receive a window seat on row one just fine (so once again no point in paying for it!) and head to the Servisair lounge to do a few hours of work followed by a few hours of other online stuff intermixed with enough G&Ts to keep me performing.

After that I flew home with LN-NOB, my second time with that bird.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_16.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Copenhagen_DAT_MD87_11_2011/Approach_17.jpg

A standard DY flight, on time departure and early arrival, friendly Danish crew and one tired Finn who basically slept through the whole thing. At home shortly before 23.30 which is a bit worrying considering that I have a 6.50 flight the next morning, but what can you do when you have adopted this gypsy lifestyle...

Conclusions

Well, what can I say. That DAT plane was certainly a very interesting blast from the past with a lovely old fashioned plane, but those new seats they have installed are pure torture. That short hop to CPH was just about the longest I could manage - I saw this bird operating the KF routes to DBV/SPU some summers ago, so that kind of distances must be pure hell for the passengers.


As mentioned a far too short night at home and then back to the airport for an early morning flight for some zigzagging around Sweden and Estonia: HEL-ARN/BMA-TLL-ARN-GOT-HEL. Happy contrails!

34 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineknightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

FlyingFinn,

How I envy you!


User currently offlineAYA333 From Finland, joined Aug 2008, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

I really like that livery! So, thanks for taking us on this trip   

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I really like these sausages they have been offering pretty much every afternoon I’ve been here for the last couple of weeks:

This time they even have mustard! But have to admit those were quite fine, thanks P for the opportunity to visit that lounge again a couple of weeks ago.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The gate agent, a youngish girl with the most outrageous oversized glasses gives me the eye for a long time and finally asks “Aren’t you the one from that TV show?” - well, I have to admit that indeed it is me .

Seems you have developed a fan club of your own!



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User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6617 times:

Hola P.!

Great to read about your DAT experience right after your come back from your birthday celebrations in ZAG. BTW, Hyvää Syntymäpäivää!

The interior of the plane looks stunning, love those colorful dotted seat covers.... very nice, really legroom is impressive, so tight... I would as well have had problems sitting there, I am just 1,73m. and it even sounds difficult to seat 'comfortably' there. At least you got some wine to ease the struggle.

I am sure they keep the sausages in the lounge for you....

What a pity you could not board the MadDog old-style, I remember the first time I took one: PMI-BCN and we boarded from the back... very few times I have been allowed to do so again.

Salut! and happy flights in the coming years.

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6903 posts, RR: 77
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6565 times:

Hi P.,

very nice report as usual. You really keep us busy with reading and replying! That DAT MD-87 is certainly an interesting bird.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The gate agent, a youngish girl with the most outrageous oversized glasses gives me the eye for a long time and finally asks “Aren’t you the one from that TV show?” - well, I have to admit that indeed it is me

Haha, you are famous now! Did she ask for a date?  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My my, isn’t that a nice livery:

Ah, that white is simply stunning.  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Seriously, this is even worse than JK and VY which I sampled two weeks ago. There’s basically no way for me to sit in a position where my knees wouldn’t touch the seat in front of me. At least the middle seat stays free, so that is a slight solace. The guy on the aisle seat has similar thoughts - he is around the same height (181 cm) as me, and doesn’t look too comfortable either!

That's tight. But probably not worse than on the Meridiana Mad Dog I had some years ago. And expect to find such a pitch when flying on certain Indonesian carriers!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
DAT the Red Nosed Mad Dog:

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As mentioned a far too short night at home and then back to the airport for an early morning flight for some zigzagging around Sweden and Estonia: HEL-ARN/BMA-TLL-ARN-GOT-HEL.

Why don't you rent an office at the airport? There are enough toilets in the public area and you could use showers in the lounges. You'd only need a bed in there.  


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6546 times:

Hi P.

Great plane to get into the Christmas-mood, with this red nose  

Love the DAT livery: it suits very well on their ATR too IMHO...

Good to read, you've enjoyed your MD87 flight: all these Mad Dog variants have an extremely good take-off and climb performance - nice to show in your pictures as well !

Looking forward to your Swedish/Estonian adventures...

Gr.,

P.



don't throw away tomorrow !
User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6492 times:

Hi P!
Very nice to see this colorful DAT bird also on the inside. I was VERY tempted to take advantage of a 44 EUR youth ticket and score a ride on the lego plane but school is school, you know...
OY-JRU left back to Denmark on Friday and so did OY-RCD, so at the moment there's no exotic thingies around at HEL. But with KF you never know if they will be back, though.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Blue1 never fails to surprise me. In addition to appearing to have no solid overall strategy at all, starting and ending routes at random and playing shenanigans with their fare structures they seem to have really messed up their fleet strategy as well

Tough words. Partly true. But who can not be without liking an airline that
a) is feeding the traffic from the SAS hubs
b) flies the Boeing 717
c) offers flights to holiday destinations in Lapland and the Mediterranean
d) offers multiple daily connections well suited for business travellers
e) is part of the domestic price war in Finland
f) gives A.netters the possibility to fly rarely covered airlines
g) makes flying fun?
(end of commercial)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So if one sees a non common visitor at HEL nowadays, a safe bet is always to assume that it is operating for KF

...or Air Finland. Anyway a good friend of mine used to travel frequently on the HEL-CDG route when Blue1 was still operating it and he managed to score the City Airline MD-87, your MD-87, an Estonian 737-500, a Jet Time 737-300 and even flew with the RC Avro on such a long flight!
BTW, you're welcome for the reminder I gave you about the DAT being around! I'll send you the bill later...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The problem was that these substitutions were basically made at an ad hoc, last minute basis and they did not appear on the schedules at all, so planning to catch one was basically impossible and no matter how much I’ve liked to I just don’t have the time and money to book tons of random KF flights, hoping for the best.

Actually there was some MD-87 flights marked in the schedules also earlier this year. That time there wasn't any "Operated by DAT" remarks though and the only way to find them was to browse through the flight details for every flight separately. Would've been interesting to fly it on HEL-KUO(-KTT) which happened once.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(DY has recently gone double daily on the HEL-CPH route on most weekdays, with a perfect schedule for day trips

Actually they only have one daily flight with the aircraft spending the night in HEL, so the second daily frequency (that used to leave HEL around 18.30) is gone.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The gate agent, a youngish girl with the most outrageous oversized glasses gives me the eye for a long time and finally asks “Aren’t you the one from that TV show?” - well, I have to admit that indeed it is me

Congratulations once again! I really enjoyed your appearance on the show, but I can't put it to words how irritating it was when they showed the Avro wing view instead of the proper 717 though.
Even though the show was full of small mistakes (shifting cabin and wing views from one aircraft to another etc.) I really miss it. Now what shall I do every weekday at 20.30? (Look for flights, perhaps).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
While still settling down the captain welcomes everybody on board “This Blue1 and Star Alliance flight to Copenhagen

I hope people didn't think the lego colors are the new Flowing color scheme that KF has been talking about.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Next I head to the transfer center, get checked in for my Norwegian flight home four hours later, ask for and receive a window seat on row one just fine (so once again no point in paying for it!)

I wish the same would be possible at say OUL or RVN.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 1):
How I envy you!

I agree. It's just with school and stuff you don't have time to fly around like a bird. But hey, now I know what I want to be when I grow up - a Flying Finn!  


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6461 times:

Hi FF!

A nice short tripreport of yours!

Nice to catch the DAT MD87, for sure a great bird to fly. To bad about that legroom though!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The gate agent, a youngish girl with the most outrageous oversized glasses gives me the eye for a long time and finally asks “Aren’t you the one from that TV show?” - well, I have to admit that indeed it is me .

Oh, you are getting famous now!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My my, isn’t that a nice livery:

I'm not that fond of that livery to be honest. Interesting and unusual for sure, but I don't think it's pretty.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Bugger, the inner door is closed:

Indeed a bugger, part of the "real" MD87 experience gone away there.

Looking forward to your next report!

Martin


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6166 times:

Hi Petteri.

Great trip report, thanks for putting it together. Tought every northern european airline was covered here! untill I red this trip report!

DAT seems to be a nice carrier, just the new seating disturbs the nostalgic touch to it.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineTupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2186 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6039 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

After that I flew home with LN-NOB, my second time with that bird.

I flew LN-NOB LGW-OSL-TOS in one day. Needless to say I wasn't too happy about it being towed from the furthest end of the Terminal in OSL to the gate I was sat at waiting for my next flight!

Always interesting reports Finn! (Which is what Matt and I call you!)



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User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5900 times:

Hey P.,

great read, thank you for sharing your ride with us. I think I've seen DAT somewhere in the past years, perhaps at Arlanda, its livery actually makes it possible for me to see an MD80 without shivering for the disgust (I know I am one the very few thinking it but it's one of my least liked type of airframe).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Most of the passengers are already gone, I assume they are waiting in the bus. The gate agent, a youngish girl with the most outrageous oversized glasses gives me the eye for a long time and finally asks “Aren’t you the one from that TV show?” - well, I have to admit that indeed it is me  .

Tv show? Didn't know you were a celebrity, does it mean that your autographs are on sale on Ebay for big bucks?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
For a while I contemplate about just climbing up and then casually knocking on the door and saying “Boo!” to whoever would open the door but somehow that doesn’t sound like the brightest idea after all.

That'd be a great laugh but doing it in this paranoid times would mean finding oneself on the wrong end of a Taser gun, wouldn't it?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The seats are definitely interesting:

Yes, I really love them! The headrest, moreover, is simply "aww-cute-ish". I love the way you Nordics keep on making simple things look pretty as Hammersmith's Tiger shop has now discovered .

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Seriously, this is even worse than JK and VY which I sampled two weeks ago. There’s basically no way for me to sit in a position where my knees wouldn’t touch the seat in front of me. At least the middle seat stays free, so that is a slight solace. The guy on the aisle seat has similar thoughts - he is around the same height (181 cm) as me, and doesn’t look too comfortable either!

How stupid. They're basically forcing tall people off their planes which, if you think that DAT is based in the Nordics and you guys ain't exactly Smurfs, is not really the best way to grow a big clientele of aficionados...

Looking forward to read some other Northern tales!

Fabrizio


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 days ago) and read 5872 times:

Hi, P.,

great stuff, I like you´re style, you know.
The guy with the hat from the TV show, real good!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Third of an safety card for Markus:

Love it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Now this is the classic MD-87 view:

Should be my seat.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
many pictures of the plane and all the fixtures. Well, a software engineer is still an engineer so I admit that yes, I’m one and try to explain what is special about this plane - but as usual this is not really understood by the other party...

Ah, that´s life these days, there are very few examples when the seatmates know what´s going on there beside they fly on a plane.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

A standard DY flight, on time departure and early arrival, friendly Danish crew and one tired Finn who basically slept through the whole thing. At home shortly before 23.30 which is a bit worrying considering that I have a 6.50 flight the next morning, but what can you do when you have adopted this gypsy lifestyle...

And I hope you stay this way!.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 715 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 days ago) and read 5861 times:

Hi P.,

interesting report, great to catch this special plane. Looks like you have had quite a few tight seat pitch experiences lately, but flying such a bird certainly compensates for that.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My my, isn’t that a nice livery:

Mmh, colorful, yes, nice, not really... But the red nose looks cute   ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
For a while I contemplate about just climbing up and then casually knocking on the door and saying “Boo!” to whoever would open the door but somehow that doesn’t sound like the brightest idea after all.

Good idea, better be careful around planes nowadays before getting questioned for 'suspicious behavior'. But I think I would have tried it as well, as boarding through the rear is always something special. Didn't some other pax follow you around?

Thanks again
CaptainRed


User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3341 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 days ago) and read 5820 times:

Nice report on an airline I'd never heard of before!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Blue1 never fails to surprise me. In addition to appearing to have no solid overall strategy at all, starting and ending routes at random and playing shenanigans with their fare structures they seem to have really messed up their fleet strategy as well.

Sounds like bmi (except for the fleet strategy). Funny how these wierdo airlines seems to solider on for so long.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Most of the passengers are already gone, I assume they are waiting in the bus. The gate agent, a youngish girl with the most outrageous oversized glasses gives me the eye for a long time and finally asks “Aren’t you the one from that TV show?” - well, I have to admit that indeed it is me .

Have you benefitted much from your celebrity status in HEL?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Bugger, the inner door is closed:

Shame; still you got a nice walk around the plane!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The good part about these flights is that the foreign crews have not been trained to use the POS terminals and thus there’s no BOB. So in addition to the coffee I also ask and get a free red wine:

Nice outcome for you. I'm suprised that they oaded the booze if they couldn't charge for them.



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5736 times:

Hello P, as in Pressure i.e the immense pressure your knees must've endured while being squeezed in those seats! Great report as always 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I burned some EuroBonus points for a one way award flight HEL-CPH on the 16.00 flight on a Tuesday afternoon. 7200 points and 13,50 EUR for airport fees - you just can’t help but love EB as it does not try to cheat you and charge fuel surcharges as “taxes”!

Now this is the real party piece of this programme. It actually makes sense to buy award tickets from them, unlike Lufty who will charge you "taxes&fees" to the equivalent cost of a standard ticket. Still 7200 seem like quite an expensive price considering roughly the same amount would've gotten you an upgrade to Y+ on one of their long haul flights. That's worth at least €700 in price difference (yeesh, Economy Extra is bloody expensive!)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I really like these sausages they have been offering pretty much every afternoon I’ve been here for the last couple of weeks:

Must say, food offerings sure look better then what's offered in the ARN lounge. Are those quesadillas on the plate?   

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
who said to me “Oh, you are on your way again!” when entering the lounge): “I’ll be back tomorrow morning!” and head to the gate.

Hehe, it's quite interesting and I'm assuming you've made yourself known among the lounge staff. Presumably from your short visits? For me in my "local" lounge, the staff have learned to know me from my looong visits  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My my, isn’t that a nice livery:

Notice how only the composite parts of the fuselage are painted red.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The seats are definitely interesting:

Interesting indeed. In fact those seats must be the old SAS seats that have been re-upholstred in grey leather, notice the blue armrests.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
That red seat belt is a nice touch - probably the same one that Air Berlin uses:

Also very interesting that they've re-done the seatbacks, i.e used parts from the ubiquitous Recaro seats found on most EU airlines these days. Suppose this modification was done in order to accommodate those extra rows, i.e moving up the seat pocked. In the long term, suppose that must've made some financial sense.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The good part about these flights is that the foreign crews have not been trained to use the POS terminals and thus there’s no BOB. So in addition to the coffee I also ask and get a free red wine:

Now that's service as it should be! Too shame it was just a one-off. Was it possible to get snacks too?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and head to the Servisair lounge to do a few hours of work followed by a few hours of other online stuff intermixed with enough G&Ts to keep me performing.

I'm really amazed how alcohol can have such a profound effect on you.

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5703 times:

Hi P.,

wow, great catch! I've seen these colourful MD87s at AMS a lot of times, indeed on adhoc or sub-charter. A rare one to fly, for sure!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I burned some EuroBonus points for a one way award flight HEL-CPH on the 16.00 flight on a Tuesday afternoon. 7200 points and 13,50 EUR for airport fees - you just can’t help but love EB as it does not try to cheat you and charge fuel surcharges as “taxes”!
To get back I booked the DY evening flight (DY has recently gone double daily on the HEL-CPH route on most weekdays, with a perfect schedule for day trips: early morning departure ex-HEL, late night arrival back). Cost was very reasonable 43 EUR (as a comparison KF wanted around 250 EUR for a one way ticket at the same short notice...).

Nice deal, and indeed DY's fares can be great even on shorter notice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“But you are not allowed to go running around like that!”, “Well, I just did!” - her expression is quite worth seeing actually

Shame on her! It's not her task to talk to you in this way.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
“But you didn’t know it was going to be this plane?”
- “I did, of course.”
- “But how?”
- “From the schedule.”
- “Really??”

Haha... we tripreporters know more then she thinks  

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineburj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 901 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5648 times:

I can't believe you flew on a Blue1 flight and did NOT take a close up photo of the saying on the paper cup... it says something about "THE MAN" which seems so funny for a northern European airline!
LOL

So I am the only one who thinks the DAT logo is a lot like the EWR logo?
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Shame you didn't get to use the back stairs! That is always a cool treat! But it is nifty that you got recognized from TV!

Thanks for sharing!


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6648 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5559 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

Thanks for another nice report with nice pictures!

I'm glad that you were able to get on the DAT M87 since it's difficult to plan to fly on them normally. Legroom does look bad and I guess you were lucky to fly on such a short flight with them.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
(I know I am one the very few thinking it but it's one of my least liked type of airframe).



I'm with you on this one; the MD-80 is my least favorite narrow body aircraft and probably least favorite aircraft all in all. I don't like the A380 but I haven't flown on it yet and at least they'll have some decent entertainment on the 380.

I have manages to fly on one MD-97, LN-RMG with SAS LHR-ARN 17May02.

The777Man



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1772 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5454 times:
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Petteri, hi!

Don’t you just love these half/half days: office/flying. A perfect getaway from the slumber although you did some work on the way (I’ll take that for being true  ) Cool bird you’ve just flown but that seating problem seems major. Does this bird operate charter flights in the holiday season and therefore try to pack as many people in it as possible? Certainly like the color scheme though.
Great trick of trying to board through the back, I would’ve wanted to see your ‘boo’! Then record it and play it as IFE on ‘Just for laughs’.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and no matter how much I’ve liked to I just don’t have the time and money to book tons of random KF flights, hoping for the best.

Is that an understatement  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This is the third report in this series, for the earlier ones see these:

Clever, you turned it into a series! What’s the next episode?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Aren’t you the one from that TV show?

   Now it’s very clear you are a FF (famous Finn)!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
My my, isn’t that a nice livery

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The seats are definitely interesting

They have a bit of a Dutch feel to it (Delfts blue)… hmmm maybe with a lot of imagination.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
DAT the Red Nosed Mad Dog

Very clownesque

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5254 times:

Hi all,

Good to see so many comments. Thank you!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 1):
How I envy you!

No need to envy me. I could say the same about you - living in such a nice country as Switzerland with tons of affordable flights with nice airlines at your arm's reach - just look at the Ezy offering ex-BSL for example, impressive and I would be in heaven there!

But yeah, the real point is that the grass is always greener on the other side...  
Quoting AYA333 (Reply 2):
I really like that livery! So, thanks for taking us on this trip

Yep, it is nice and something different.

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 2):
This time they even have mustard! But have to admit those were quite fine, thanks P for the opportunity to visit that lounge again a couple of weeks ago.

They had mustard a week earlier as well. And no problems, I need my groupies and bodyguards around, so anytime we happen to be departing at the same time you are welcomed.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
BTW, Hyvää Syntymäpäivää!

Kiitos!

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
What a pity you could not board the MadDog old-style, I remember the first time I took one: PMI-BCN and we boarded from the back... very few times I have been allowed to do so again.

Yes, sure a special feeling. I was really disappointed to learn that the 717s do not have this feature any more.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Haha, you are famous now! Did she ask for a date?

A bit too young for me.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
And expect to find such a pitch when flying on certain Indonesian carriers!

I expect to find pictures of such a pitch from certain Indonesian carriers here soon 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Why don't you rent an office at the airport? There are enough toilets in the public area and you could use showers in the lounges. You'd only need a bed in there.

Yeah, would be nice. Too bad the only showers at HEL lounges are nowadays at the Finnair Longhaul one, something quite off limits for me.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 5):
Great plane to get into the Christmas-mood, with this red nose

Good point.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 5):
Good to read, you've enjoyed your MD87 flight: all these Mad Dog variants have an extremely good take-off and climb performance - nice to show in your pictures as well !

I know, I know. These are the planes I grew up to flying with so I was somewhat disappointed when I flew my first A32x flights  .

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
OY-JRU left back to Denmark on Friday and so did OY-RCD, so at the moment there's no exotic thingies around at HEL. But with KF you never know if they will be back, though.

Oh, that's sad to hear. But yes, I'm sure they will come around again at some point.

That one time they flew OSL-HEL with the DAT ATR-72 would've been a once in a life flight for me!  
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
Tough words. Partly true. But who can not be without liking an airline that

I'm not saying it is a bad airline, I like them a lot. But you have to agree that they lack any strategy whatsoever with those frequent new destination launces only to stop the routes after a few months despite good passenger loads and then starting them again a bit later... ad infinitum.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
HEL-CDG route when Blue1 was still operating it and he managed to score the City Airline MD-87, your MD-87, an Estonian 737-500, a Jet Time 737-300 and even flew with the RC Avro on such a long flight!

Wow, that's quite a repertoire of planes! Did he ever fly a genuine KF MD-90 or 717?   Very surprised about that Avro flight, that is a long time to spend in a 3-3 configured plane!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
BTW, you're welcome for the reminder I gave you about the DAT being around! I'll send you the bill later...

I'll guest you to the lounge next time we are flying on the same Blue1 flight.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
Would've been interesting to fly it on HEL-KUO(-KTT) which happened once.

Really?! Would've loved to fly this bird to my hometown!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
Actually they only have one daily flight with the aircraft spending the night in HEL, so the second daily frequency (that used to leave HEL around 18.30) is gone.

Yes, good point. I got somewhat confused by the schedule, but yes, you are of course right.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 6):
I wish the same would be possible at say OUL or RVN.

You can do it with the self service kiosks at OUL.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
I'm not that fond of that livery to be honest. Interesting and unusual for sure, but I don't think it's pretty.

It does look better on the smaller ATR, I guess there's less white space there.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 8):
Tought every northern european airline was covered here! untill I red this trip report!

There are still a few!

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 9):
Always interesting reports Finn! (Which is what Matt and I call you!)

Sounds Irish to me! But I guess that's almost appropriate - we are the Irish of the North after all!

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
(I know I am one the very few thinking it but it's one of my least liked type of airframe).

And you love boring Airbii, do you? Seriously speaking I can't blame you, it is probably Alitalia who has offered you hours of such bad service aboard their "Super 80's" that lesser beings would've already turned into drinking or religion, whatever is your choice of these vices (you know mine).

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
Tv show? Didn't know you were a celebrity, does it mean that your autographs are on sale on Ebay for big bucks?
Inaugural Flight In Reality TV: HEL-TLL On KF 717 (by FlyingFinn76 Feb 7 2011 in Trip Reports)

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
That'd be a great laugh but doing it in this paranoid times would mean finding oneself on the wrong end of a Taser gun, wouldn't it?

These are Danes, among the most relaxed people on earth (together with Swedes, Norwegians and Jamaicans, although the last ones achieve it only with certain plant products).

Quoting JL418 (Reply 10):
How stupid. They're basically forcing tall people off their planes which, if you think that DAT is based in the Nordics and you guys ain't exactly Smurfs, is not really the best way to grow a big clientele of aficionados...

Well, charter flights used to be very popular and still are quite popular around here (the reason why Sterling's HEL base failed some years ago) and the general flying population doesn't know any better. People think nothing of flying 12 hours to Thailand on an AY 757 with 227 seats and abysmal legroom!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
interesting report, great to catch this special plane. Looks like you have had quite a few tight seat pitch experiences lately, but flying such a bird certainly compensates for that.

Well, I seem to be a roll - two other rides coming up in December from airlines and planes notorious for bad legroom!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
Didn't some other pax follow you around?

Nope, just looked at me a bit weirdly.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Sounds like bmi (except for the fleet strategy). Funny how these wierdo airlines seems to solider on for so long.

SAS needs them to feed their hubs and to be a thorn on AY's side, that's why they keep them flying.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Have you benefitted much from your celebrity status in HEL?

Yes, you wouldn't believe the number of phone numbers I've ended up with. Yeah right.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Nice outcome for you. I'm suprised that they oaded the booze if they couldn't charge for them.

Well Premium gets free drinks so they have them in the cart.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
Now this is the real party piece of this programme. It actually makes sense to buy award tickets from them, unlike Lufty who will charge you "taxes&fees" to the equivalent cost of a standard ticket.

Well, usually the thumb rule is not to use points for economy travel especially on programs that charge these fees as it usually is not worth it, but sometimes it makes sense.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):

Still 7200 seem like quite an expensive price considering roughly the same amount would've gotten you an upgrade to Y+ on one of their long haul flights. That's worth at least €700 in price difference (yeesh, Economy Extra is bloody expensive!)

Well, first of all I don't see myself flying SK longhaul anytime soon and definitely not in an upgradeable fare class!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
Must say, food offerings sure look better then what's offered in the ARN lounge. Are those quesadillas on the plate?

Nope, that is vegetable quiche and not a very good one at that! But yeah, the food offerings at the HEL lounge are much more varied than the normal stuff they rotate over at the ARN one. I think it has gotten better in the last half a year or so.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
Interesting indeed. In fact those seats must be the old SAS seats that have been re-upholstred in grey leather, notice the blue armrests.

Well, first of all that bird has never flown with SAS so I'm not sure where you got that idea. It started its life as OH-LMA flying for Finnair (so there's a chance I've flown it before I started writing down my flights) back in 1987, and subsequently flew for Spanair as EC-HMI, then moved to your homeland, adopting the registration of SE-RBA and spent the next for years flying for Nordic Regional and doing subcharters for various airlines like FlyMe and Germanwings (!) before finally ending up as OY-JRU of DAT in 2009. So I'm not sure where you are getting your SAS seat idea from.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
Now that's service as it should be! Too shame it was just a one-off. Was it possible to get snacks too?

No, I don't think so. They only had the food trays for Premium.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
I'm really amazed how alcohol can have such a profound effect on you.

You should read Kiwiflyer's legendary reports.

Quoting burj (Reply 16):
I can't believe you flew on a Blue1 flight and did NOT take a close up photo of the saying on the paper cup... it says something about "THE MAN" which seems so funny for a northern European airline!

I've shoot a few pictures of that already. And I think "Da Man" means something completely different over here  
Quoting burj (Reply 16):
So I am the only one who thinks the DAT logo is a lot like the EWR logo?

Now that you pointed it out, yes - it indeed does!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 18):
A perfect getaway from the slumber although you did some work on the way (I’ll take that for being true )

Yes, tons of stuff to do and what's a better way to combine business and pleasure?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 18):
Does this bird operate charter flights in the holiday season and therefore try to pack as many people in it as possible?

They do some really weird charters to Africa ex-AMS for example.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 18):
Clever, you turned it into a series! What’s the next episode?

You have to ask Blue1 fleet planning. Would love to do "Estonian Blue" or my favorite "Jet (Time) Blue"  .

Quoting sultanils (Reply 18):
Now it’s very clear you are a FF (famous Finn)!

256?

Sorry, some nerdish humor there!  


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6903 posts, RR: 77
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5243 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 19):
I expect to find pictures of such a pitch from certain Indonesian carriers here soon

Report on schedule for early 2012...better late than never.  


PH

[Edited 2011-11-28 11:28:04]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2461 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (3 years 22 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

Great TR, I wish you could feel my heart-beat; as I was working crew on this bird (when operating for NORDIC REGIONAL as SE-RBA). Therfore, I know the history of the plane inside out- and some points need a correction...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After getting airborne I realize something weird - the overhead vent is blasting air right into my neck. And yes, looks like these vents indeed are very much disaligned from the seats, I guess as part of their refurbishing project DAT added a few additional rows which caused this effect.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Finally I get to my seat, and notice quite an abysmal legroom:



NOT TRUE! The additional rows were installed by (AFAIK) Priority Aero Maintenance for NORDIC REGIONAL. Unfortunately, the original seats are gone... Row 1-20, as far as I can remember, were blue SPANAIR seats (with their original "wave" sheme. The last rows in the back were pure blue (ex SAS?) seats; therefore the seat pitch was even far less! Not even a cola can fitted inbetween the seats!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
That DAT plane was certainly a very interesting blast from the past with a lovely old fashioned plane, but those new seats they have installed are pure torture. That short hop to CPH was just about the longest I could manage - I saw this bird operating the KF routes to DBV/SPU some summers ago, so that kind of distances must be pure hell for the passengers.



Well, as you can see in other pictures, the rear galley is equipped with ovens (for hot meals)- as we used this plane even to the Canary Islands!! Can you imagine a 5hrs+ ride in this bird?
One thing, did you felt something "special"? At my time, the a/c had a very low damping- making a conversation impossible, we even offered free ear-plugs to the passengers, as the noise level in the rear section broke all records. On top, the engines were producing heavy vibrations- like beeing on a vessel...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I wait until everyone else has deboarded and shoot a few photos:



At least one thing remained, the overhead bin dampers are unchanged and so some still hang down...


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1895 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (3 years 12 hours ago) and read 5035 times:
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Hey FF! A ride on the M87, AND boarding by tailstairs? I envy you!  Thanks for sharing!

Brgds Martijn



Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

Hi FlyingFinn76

I loved the story about you trying to board through the rear and the reaction of the crew. Simply hilarious, it made my day!

Congratulations on scoring this rare bird!

Best regards,
LXM83


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4821 times:

Hi guys, thanks for the additional comments!

Quoting debonair (Reply 21):
Great TR, I wish you could feel my heart-beat; as I was working crew on this bird (when operating for NORDIC REGIONAL as SE-RBA). Therfore, I know the history of the plane inside out- and some points need a correction...

Hey debonair, thanks for these interesting bits and pieces - very nice to hear from somebody who's actually spent serious time with this bird!

Quoting debonair (Reply 21):

NOT TRUE! The additional rows were installed by (AFAIK) Priority Aero Maintenance for NORDIC REGIONAL.

Ok, good to know. Never had the chance to fly with Nordic Regional, now I'm pretty happy I didn't  .

Quoting debonair (Reply 21):
Unfortunately, the original seats are gone... Row 1-20, as far as I can remember, were blue SPANAIR seats (with their original "wave" sheme. The last rows in the back were pure blue (ex SAS?) seats;

What? So Spanair isn't the only company that has planes with two different seats? IMHO that is very unprofessional and to me it gives an impression of a company that couldn't care less of their image and just uses whatever old crap seats and equipment they can get their hands on! Certainly not a way to create a good, lasting impression and to attract return customers.

Quoting debonair (Reply 21):
Well, as you can see in other pictures, the rear galley is equipped with ovens (for hot meals)- as we used this plane even to the Canary Islands!! Can you imagine a 5hrs+ ride in this bird?

NO! I couldn't walk after such a flight.

Quoting debonair (Reply 21):
One thing, did you felt something "special"? At my time, the a/c had a very low damping- making a conversation impossible, we even offered free ear-plugs to the passengers, as the noise level in the rear section broke all records. On top, the engines were producing heavy vibrations- like beeing on a vessel...

Hmm, it was quite loud inside but I don't think it was any louder than the last rows on your usual Mad Dog. And nope, didn't notice any unusual vibrations either.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 22):
Hey FF! A ride on the M87, AND boarding by tailstairs?

Err, did you actually read the narrative or just watch the pics? I *tried* to board thru the stairs, but failed miserably.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 23):
I loved the story about you trying to board through the rear and the reaction of the crew. Simply hilarious, it made my day!

You are welcome.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 23):
Congratulations on scoring this rare bird!

Thanks! Pretty happy with that myself.


25 Post contains images CrimsonNL : Oops. Well I read the first part, then I ran out of time and looked at the rest of the pics. Oh well, the M87 part still makes me jealous
26 Post contains images infodesk : Hi P, Well done on another unusual catch, what a good excuse to burn some miles. I think you need to change your username to FrequentFlyingFinn Seriou
27 akhmad : Hi P., What a great adventure with MD87. How I wish to fly one of those MadDogs. The only thing is that neither of them flies to my preferred destinat
28 Post contains images signol : Hi FF, a nice quick evening trip, thanks. Looks like the old MD has been fitted with new seats - and the trend of squashing in as many of them as poss
29 Post contains images ba319-131 : Hi P, I'm still playing catch-up! - A no brainer based on that pricing, the minimal FF miles are just not worth the cost. - Ah, the fame is spreading
30 Post contains images OA260 : Great report P . Weird livery but I like the seat covers You should have taken a pic of her expression lol... Thanks for the nice report . Regards Phi
31 FlyingFinn76 : Hi all, Good to see more comments. Yes, you might have a point here! Are you sure there will be a next time with a film crew? I'm not... Well, the rea
32 Post contains images EBGflyer : Le me add that the registration OY-JRU refers to the owner of DAT, Jesper Rungholm
33 Parton87 : Hello Petteri Thanks for the nice story. Nice that you manage to catch this special flight. I´m not a fan of the livery on DAT MD´s. On the ATR the
34 debonair : Many companies have different seat onboards- like I told you before (I think so). Aerosvit is also one of them...
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