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Copenhagen In One Day: BRU-CPH-AMS-BRU SK/KL  
User currently offlineBrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 628 posts, RR: 5
Posted (3 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8625 times:

Background

After a very difficult and stressful 2011 because of my son's serious health problems, I realized that my flight log would remain desperately empty for the year, something that hadn't happened for a very long time. As my son's condition began to improve in December, I decided that it was time for a short trip to some country in my "not visited" list. As I didn't want to sleep away from home for the aforementioned health reasons, it had to be something that could be made in one day, and if it could make me fly on a new aircraft type or airline, it would still be better. Money was not really a problem since my travel budget had been left untouched for the whole year.

High on my wish list were cities such as Belgrade, Serbia, or Bucharest, Romania, but I soon realized it was not wise to plan a day trip there. I also noticed some relatively cheap options to British cities such as Liverpool, Birmingham or Manchester, but this would mean no new country or airline. After a bit of browsing on various airlines website (flying on a Carpatair Saab was something I would have loved but schedules weren't practical for me), I decided that Copenhagen would be a nice possibility. There was no lack of cheap nonstop options from Brussels on both Brussels Airlines and SAS, but as I wanted something I hadn't tried before, I selected a connection on KLM on the inbound leg. For the outbound, I opted for a direct SAS service as to maximize my time in the city. My itinerary (BRU-CPH-AMS-CPH) was not the cheapest, but it would offer me a couple of interesting firsts:

- First time on KLM.
- First time on SAS.
- First time on the Fokker 70.
- First time at AMS.
- First time at CPH.
- First time in Denmark.

After a quick agenda confirmation with my wife, I took my Miles&More American Express card out of my walled and booked the flights. I selected Monday 19 December as the weather in CPH was forecast as cold but not rainy.

Checking in

On Sunday the 18th, I received an SMS from SAS to inform me that online check-in was now open for my flight.:

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This was confirmed by an e-mail on the exact same second:

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I immediately clicked on the "Check-in" button provided in the e-mail, which led me on a page confirming my travel details:

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As no seat had been automatically assigned, I clicked on the "Change Seat" link to select a window seat on the right side of this A319 (21F):


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Just before the next step, a pseudo popup window appeared to try to sell me the right to travel with additional baggage. Interestingly, this was priced in GBP, even though my booking was made using the Belgian (English language) version of the SAS website:


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So I said "No thank you, skip this step" and found myself on the last page of the process where the system asked me to note that a boarding pass was required...

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So, here it is:

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While I was at it, I decided to check-in for the return flights on KLM as well. The process was essentially the same, but with an arguably slightly better presentation:

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Note that the KLM system forced me to declare that I had a valid ID, had read the rules concerning dangerous goods, and didn't need any special assistance. Its SAS counterpart didn't ask me anything. If I remember my previous online check-in experiences on other airlines correctly, I think I always had to approve some kind of conditions before going ahead with the process:

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This time, I selected a seat on the left side (20A):

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After I repeated those steps for the AMS-BRU leg, a PDF document containing my boarding pass (one boarding pass for both legs) opened:


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Now that I was all set, all I needed to do was to get into bed in anticipation of the early wake-up call scheduled at 4:20am. However, this is what I saw as I approached the window:

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The snow did not look thick though, and as weather forecasts remained optimistic for the next day, I didn't pay much attention to it. Members living in snow prone countries may wonder why this should have bothered me anyway. The fact is that all kind of traffics in Belgium (including air traffic) can quickly turn into a nightmare at the first sighting of snow, of which we only have a couple of days every year.

And sure enough, upon getting of my bed the next morning, this what a quick glance at METAR's for the relevant airports revealed:

EBBR 190320Z 28005KT 8000 SCT004 BKN007 01/M00 Q1016 NOSIG
EKCH 190320Z 25013KT CAVOK 02/01 Q1000 NOSIG


No sign of snow in the above lines, and only an extremely thin layer on the sidewalk in front of my home, already in the process of melting. Now, an portion of the TAF for Brussels looked a bit more interesting: PROB40 TEMPO 1916/1924 3500 RA RASN BKN008, basically a 40% risk of snow for my inbound leg later today. Oh well, I thought, planes can fly into snow, after all...

After an easy drive on empty highways, I reached Brussels Airport 40 minutes after leaving my home and left the park in "Front Park 2", which, at 16 euros, is supposed to be the cheapest parking option for a day trip. The entrance to the terminal building was illuminated for Christmas:

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No particular remarks concerning my flight to Copenhagen (this is how I tried to turn a failed attempt at taking a photo of the large flights display panel into something):

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On a typical day of the winter scheduling season, there are no less than 10 daily flights between Brussels and Copenhagen, all split between Brussels Airlines and SAS (excluding code share partners Malmö Aviation and United Airlines), i.e. this is a 100% Star Alliance operated route.

This is BRU's main check-in hall, with street access on the right and check-in counters on the left. Another adjacent check-in hall dedicated to leisure/charter carriers is located at the end of this hallway (access at the top of the photo):

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Check-in counters were deserted on that early morning, with the exception of resident carrier Brussels Airlines' desks. The Starbucks in the background used to be the only one in Belgium. There are currently 6 of them in the country, of which 3 are located in various corners of Brussels Airport:

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SAS counters were totally empty. Note the distinctive red lamps adorning Brussels Airlines desks:

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After a bit of "sightseeing" around airline desks, I made my way to the access point to concourse A:

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Here's a short explanation of BRU's terminal layout. The main check-in hall is depicted in blue, and the leisure/charter check-in hall is in red. Concourse B is adjacent to the main hall and is used by flights to non-Schengen countries with the exception of Brussels Airlines flights to Africa. Concourse A is used for intra-Schengen flights and T is for Brussels Airlines African flights. Security checks happen at the entrance of concourses A and B, while passport control points are located at the entrance of concourses B and T. Access to each concourse is restricted to holders of a relevant boarding pass, access to A being equipped with an automated access control system based on those large boarding pass barcodes, with small sliding glass doors similar to what you find in some subway stations. The system worked just fine with my home printed boarding pass and I observed that most passengers opted for it instead of the traditional manned check point that is still present.

Here's a small map I made to illustrate the layout (blue is the main terminal building, red is the additional charter/leisure check-in hall):
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As an interesting result of this layout, I went all the way to downtown Copenhagen without having to present any ID document, not even at the gate which is a first for me. All I needed was a valid barcode on a self printed boarding pass. Come to think of it, someone else could have traveled in my place simply by having my boarding pass (you know, that PDF file that stays in your web browser cache).

Walking to concourse A is quite the trek to say the least, as one has to go down multiple levels using escalators, pass a looooong underground connector (fortunately equipped with moving walkways), go through security (no significant wait that day) then up multiple levels again to the gates.

Here's the view from the middle of concourse A toward the SW end. Gate A51 on the left was assigned to my flight:

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Because of reflection on the windows, this is all I could snap of OY-KBP waiting for her next departure to CPH. On the left is an Alitalia A320 pushing back for her AZ157 service to Rome-Fiumicino:

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As boarding time approached, it became evident that the load factor wouldn't be fantastic for our flight:

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Flight 1: Brussels (BRU) to Copenhagen (CPH)

Flight details

- Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) flight SK2594 (code shares: none)
- Scheduled: 06:50 / 08:25 / duration 1:35
- Actual: 07:00 / 08:16 / duration 1:16
- Cruise: FL390 for 31 minutes at an average ground speed of 410 kts

Aircraft details

- Airbus A319-132, MSN 2888, reg. OY-KBP
- First flight on 12-SEP-2006 (5.3 years old)
- Delivered to SAS on 20-SEP-2006 (first operator)
- Named "Viger Viking"

Aircraft allocation for that day:

- BRU-CPH (overnight @ BRU)
- CPH-SVO
- SVO-CPH
- CPH-GVA
- GVA-CPH
- CPH-AAL (overnight @ AAL)

The cabin condition was OK, clean with only minor stains/dust around the window. The blue cloth seats (31" seat pitch) were reasonably comfortable for the relatively short flight, although some of them had minor signs of wear, no big deal in any case. More annoying was a slight but unpleasant smell coming from one of the seats around me (haven't identified which one exactly, I just hope it wasn't mine...). I don't know what happened to that seat for it to have that smell, and I probably don't want to know. Comfort was helped by the light load (certainly well under 50%) which left 4 vacant seats (out of 6) on my row. The cabin was divided into 3 rows of business class (same seats as economy but with middle seat blocked on each side to form a 2+2 layout), 3 rows of "economy extra" and 18 rows of economy. IIRC economy extra was totally empty.

Here's a low quality photo illustrating the seats:

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The captain made a welcome speech, first in Danish then in English, mentioning that snow had to be cleared from the wings before we could push back, which would only be a matter of a few minutes:

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Note the dirty window framing.

Then a safety demo was played on dropdown LCD screens while we were pushed back and began our taxi to runway 25R (this has been the departure runway for 10 out of my last 12 flights out of BRU).

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The take-off roll was short and the acceleration gentle, clearly the light load didn't require much of the power of this A319's two IAE V2524-A5 engines. Liftoff was followed by an immediate right turn toward the NW:

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The flight attendants began service for business class passengers, immediately followed by a buy on board turn for us economy passengers, which didn't meet great success (the "breakfast menu" order by the man seated behind me was the only sale I witnessed). In the meantime, LCD screens had been folded out again to display the flight map until our final approach into CPH:

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I observed one of the female F/A taking care of a couple with their young boy (around 1-2 years old). She took some time to entertain the kid and even took him in her arms for a lengthy flight deck visit! Overall, the F/As were smiling and seemed to enjoy their job. I tried to appear as small and young as possible and to say a few goo-goo ga-ga hoping for the same visit in the F/A's arms, but to no avail as I couldn't fool her. Maybe she had seen my birth date on the manifest or something...

Looking out the window was a good consolation though, as we first flew over the city and port of Antwerp:

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Then enjoyed a magnificient sunrise above northern Germany/southern Denmark:

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It was very difficult to get decent pictures tough, because of the very icy/scratched windows:

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The sky became overcast during our descent and we emerged from the clouds right above downtown Copenhagen. Thanks to characteristic landmarks such as the "crown" of bastions around the Christianshavn borough, or the belt of wind turbines planted into the sea east of the city, it was pretty easy to figure out where we were. Flying low over the city and the Øresund (the strait that separates Copenhagen and the Swedish city of Malmö) was impressive although the low and thick layer of clouds made me wonder whether I'd see the sun at all during my short stay in Copenhagen.

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We landed on 22L after a windy final approach. During the taxi to terminal 3, I observed the impressive Øresund bridge in the distance, which was quite a sight with all the yellow and red car lights moving on it. I also noticed a lone lit up Christmas tree planted in the grass between taxiways. Member FlyingFinn76 managed to capture it on a photo during a recent similar landing, although during daylight. See:

A Tivoli, Saab, Shootout And Taxi: HEL-CPH-LPI-ORB (by FlyingFinn76 Dec 13 2011 in Trip Reports)

This first flight of day came to an end when we parked at gate D2, next to a SAS Mad Dog (MD-82 LN-RML):

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Waiting for the jetway to be docked, I noticed a Thai 744 and an Air Greenland A330 parked at another part of the terminal. The captain (or first officer) was standing in front of the flight deck door to say goodbye to disembarking passengers along with two F/As, a nice gesture.

Here's our flight route:

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Terminal 3 gave me a good impression, with a cosy wooden floor and an overall modern look. The atmosphere was almost eerily quiet though, with very few people to be seen in the gates area, and absolutely no one in the baggage reclaim hall. I bought a public transportation pass and withdrew some Danish krones at an ATM before making my way through the public area to the airport metro station:

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I was quite impressed by the metro system. Although the network is small (2 lines with a common section, but being expanded) and the trains (and station platforms) are short, it's fast and efficient, trains are frequent and the ride is very smooth. Signage (including waiting time before next train arrival) is good. Another cool thing is that trains are automatic (driverless) which offers a great forward view to passengers sitting at the front:

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No wonder it was awarded the "world's best metro" title at MetroRail 2008.

Copenhagen

I made more than 20km (12.5 miles) of planned and random walking during my 7 hours in town. Here are some random pictures:

Magasin du Nord (department store) on Kongens Nytorv:
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Nikolaj church:
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Round tower:
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Barrack in the Kastellets fortress:
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St Alban Anglican church, about to be charged by bulls:
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One of the entrances to Christiania:
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Christiansborg palace:
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Random street in Christianshavn:
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University:
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Nyhavn:
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Church of our Saviour:
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Canal in Christianshavn:
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The famous little mermaid, always surrounded by Japanese tourists:
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Nyboder:
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Amalienborg palace:
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At the end of this building is the Noma restaurant of chef René Redzepi, voted best restaurant in the world by British magazine Restaurant in 2010 and 2011.
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Town hall:
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Town hall square with Christmas tree:
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Opera house by architect Henning Larsen:
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At noon I ate a large T-bone steak washed down with this excellent local brew:

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Flight 2: Copenhagen (CPH) to Amsterdam (AMS)

Flight details

- KLM flight KL1132 (code shares: Alitalia, China Southern)
- Scheduled: 17:10 / 18:40 / duration 1:30
- Actual: 17:15 / 18:18 / duration 1:03
- Cruise: FL380 for 15 minutes at an average ground speed of 430 kts

Aircraft details

- Boeing 737-7K2 (with winglets), CN 38128, LN 3797, reg. PH-BGW
- First flight on 25-SEP-2011 (0.2 years old)
- Delivered to KLM on 11-OCT-2011 (first operator)
- Named "Zanglijster"

I arrived by train at Kastrup airport from Copenhagen's main station (København H), 1 hour and 20 minutes before the scheduled departure time of my flight. Access to the airport from the train station is as easy as it gets as trains stop virtually under terminal 3. This Panoramio picture shows how the airport station (and Danish trains...) look.

A quick look at the flight information screens instructed me to "Go to terminal 2":

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So I followed the signs and walked outdoors to terminal 2:

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From what I understood, terminal 2 is actually another, older check-in hall but the way to departures actually leads you back to terminal 3 where you pass security.

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I liked the way waiting times for security (in my case 3 minutes) are shown on multiple displays inside the check-in hall. Immediately past security I basically found myself in the middle of a shopping mall where I spotted a "To all gates" sign:

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One could argue that the whole departures area is a vast shopping mall, but the dim light and wooden floor give it a relatively relaxed atmosphere:

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I did a bit of spotting before I went to my gate, but taking pictures wasn't easy because of reflections on the windows and gates configuration. Here are a couple of pictures to give you an idea:

Air France A318 F-GUGI being pushed back for departure as AF2351 to CDG:
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SATA A320 CS-TKJ before her departure to FNC as S4681:
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Detail of the above:
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There are quite a few SAS Mad Dogs around the place. Here, LN-RLE is being prepared for her next service to ARN:
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My KLM flight to Amsterdam was due to depart from gate A20:

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Interestingly, boarding pass and passport check at those A gates happens at the gate waiting lounge entrance, not at the jetway entrance as is customary. So, once inside the lounge, you cannot (easily) go back to common areas. The lounge provided just enough seating for our 737-700, I'm not sure how it would go with a fully loaded larger type.

The cabin condition was simply pristine, unsurprisingly given the very young age of the aircraft (delivered only 2 months ago). The load factor was nearing 100% with a seemingly sizable proportion of passengers having a connection in AMS. I was seated in 20A and all seats in my row were occupied.

After a short taxi to runway 22R and a prerecorded safety video played on dropdown LCD screens, we took off and made only a slight turn toward Amsterdam. The screens displayed the flight map throughout the flight, a more elaborate version than on the SAS A319 that morning. I was feeling quite tired and wouldn't have minded a quick nap, but my seat neighbor began a conversation when he saw my camera.

It turns out the friendly guy was an Indonesian who had lived in Denmark for 15 years and was heading back to Indonesia on KLM as he had just found a job there. We discussed a couple of random topics and I quickly realized he was quite knowledgeable about the European marijuana market. When asked by his travel agent to choose between LHR and AMS for his connection to CGK, he immediately opted for AMS for the simple reason that, according to him, the Dutch airport offered the possibility to smoke in the open air (quote: "LHR is such a hell since they won't let you smoke anywhere"). Indeed, that must be a good reason to avoid LHR...

The F/As then distributed a small bag of nacho type chips and offered drinks (all for free, including alcoholic beverages).

The descent began just as I was starting to feel uninterested by the difference in marijuana quality between Copenhagen and Maastricht. We landed on runway 18C 20 minutes ahead of schedule, after a good hour of flight, and taxied to our stand (C8). Ironically, adjacent stands (C6 and C10) were both occupied by SAS aircrafts (one of them, B737-600 LN-RPH, was about to depart to OSL as SK828).

Here's what our flight path looked like:

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Connection at Amsterdam

I did a bit of airport exploration around the B and C concourses, bought a little gift for my son and began to feel really exhausted, so I looked for some place to sit, eat and drink while watching planes. Bars in the concourses themselves didn't look that inviting, so I went upstairs to a food court but the options weren't to my liking. Finally, I opted for the restaurant visible on the left of this photo:

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I ordered a Pasta di mare:


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While I watched movements around the C and D gates (sorry for the reflections, there really was no mean to avoid them):

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A couple of glasses of white wine later (watching planes while sipping a glass of wine is close to my definition of paradise), it was time to head to the B gates.

Flight 3: Amsterdam (AMS) to Brussels (BRU)

Flight details

- KLM flight KL1733 operated by KLM CityHopper (code shares: none)
- Scheduled: 21:15 / 22:05 / duration 0:50
- Actual: 21:35 / 22:00 / duration 0:25

Aircraft details

- Fokker 70, CN 11558, reg. PH-KZW
- First flight on 17-NOV-1995 (16.1 years old)
- Delivered to KLM on 27-OCT-2008
- Previous operators:
> Air Littoral (1995-2003 as F-GLIX)
> Regional CAE (2003-2008 as F-GLIX)

Aircraft allocation for that day:

- TRF-AMS (overnight @ TRF)
- AMS-BRU
- BRU-AMS
- AMS-BLL
- BLL-AMS
- AMS-LUX
- LUX-AMS
- AMS-BRU (overnight @ BRU)

After a bit of relaxing in snoozing chairs (reading the latest issue of Airways magazine), I made my way downstairs to the CityHopper gates (B1 to B9 IIRC) where boarding for my flight to Brussels was about to begin. This area is located at apron level and boarding is by bus. When the (attractive, if I may add) agent scanned my printed boarding pass, the scanning machine emitted a loud beep accompanied by a red light. "Oh your assigned seat has changed, that must be because there was an aircraft change", the agent said, "but no worries, your new seat is now 11C, it's an aisle seat". As I was about to inquire about the availability of a window seat, she anticipated my question:

- Oh but you may prefer a window seat?
- Oh if one is available, that would be nice!
- Of course sir, it's possible, just wait while I check in the computer.

She then began an impressive sequence of key pressing. As a software analyst, I began to wonder how I could ever design an application requiring that much typing to change a seat assignment, even if I really wanted to do it in a very complicated way. As I was holding the whole boarding queue I didn't dare to look behind me by fear of spotting quite a few impatient looks, but at the same time the agent seemed to know what she was doing and pressed keys at an impressive rate, at no point at all did she look confused.

Some 4 minutes later, she came back to me with a large smile:

- Here's your new boarding pass sir, your new seat is 8F, a window seat. Will you still need this old boarding pass?
- (thinking she'd like to keep it as a souvenir of me to hang on her room's wall or something) No, just keep it if you want.
- Thank you sir, and thank you for your patience, have a good flight.
- Thank you for your help, much appreciated (realizing she had just thrown the old boarding pass down the trash bin, so much for my wishful thinking...).

Once everybody got on the bus, I started to wonder about the possible aircraft change. With just 28 passengers inside the bus, I began speculating about a switch to the smaller Fokker 50, which would be a bummer since I had flown that type last year yet the F70 was still missing to my log. I was soon relieved when the bus stopped right at the door of PH-KZW, a beautiful Fokker 70 parked in the middle of a group of similar machines:

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I noticed the female captain through the cockpit window (not that it matters). Apart from the relatively low door clearance, the cabin didn't gave me the feeling that I had just entered a regional jet at all. It felt roomy, clean, and was in an exceptionally good shape for an 16 years old plane.

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I settled in my seat, getting familiar with the typical Fokker round shaped windows, thinking that with the exception of old fashioned overhead controls, the cabin could have been that of a last generation plane. The 28 passengers I counted on the bus made for a weak 35% load factor (15% only in business, with 3 passengers scattered among 4 rows).

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No dropdown screens on that plane so the safety demo was a good old manual one, done by two friendly flight attendants (one male, one female).

We taxied to runway 18L under the rain and waited on taxiway E5 to give way to some traffic departing from that very runway, including an EasyJet A319 to MAD and a KLM B747-400 to PVG.

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The Boeing 757 is notorious for its impressive take-off performance, but man, what a rocket this lightly loaded F70 was! We entered runway 18L from E5 and were airborne by the time I noticed the E2 sign, meaning that the take-off roll took less than 750 m (2460 feet). The angle of climb and the high pitch sound of those Rolls Royce Tay 620's were no less impressive, but speaking of sound, let's just mention that the noise in the cabin was somewhat above today's regional jets, especially in the back.

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Service consisted in a 2 biscuits bag and a round of soft drinks (choice between water and another drink). I ate the biscuits but declined the drink as

Not sure what our route was, but it must have been close to a straight line between AMS and BRU since I didn't notice much heading changes. As for the vertical profile, it must have been basically a climb followed by an immediate descent, with a low top altitude as I could see drops of rain lit by the aircraft lights during the whole flight. One or two bumps occurred during the approach into Brussels, but no big deal. Engines were spooled down to idle then throttled up again continuously during approach.

After 25 minutes in the air, we landed on 25R, the very runway where I had taken off from earlier that day. No need for thrust reversers on the 3638 m (11936 feet) runway, that we left via B7. We had to wait for a couple of minutes as our gate was still occupied, which was strange since there were plenty of unoccupied gates. Anyway, my day trip to Copenhagen came to an end at gate A60. I made the lengthy walk to the main terminal building again. Concourse A as well as the baggage reclaim hall were completely deserted. I paid the car park fee and drove back home with the feeling of having spent an exhausting but very satisfying day.

One thing I should mention is that I encountered seeminlgy motivated flight attendants on all my flights that day, which is not always the case.

Here are some of my previous reports:

Small Planes And Short Runways : Channel Islands (by BrusselsSouth Sep 2 2010 in Trip Reports)
The All-in Holiday Experience: Turkey With Pegasus (by BrusselsSouth Aug 20 2010 in Trip Reports)
AF A380: WhaleJet Across The Channel (pics) (by BrusselsSouth Aug 12 2010 in Trip Reports)
Ukraine Part 1 : BRU-WAW-ODS And SIP-KBP (Pics) (by BrusselsSouth May 30 2010 in Trip Reports)
Ukraine Part 2 : KBP-LWO, LWO-WAW-BRU (Pics) (by BrusselsSouth May 30 2010 in Trip Reports)
Morocco CRL-FEZ-CMN-CRL FR/Air Arabia Maroc (Pix!) (by BrusselsSouth Mar 11 2010 in Trip Reports)
Canada : 9 Flights W/ LH/US/WS/AC/BD Lots Of Pics! (by BrusselsSouth May 7 2009 in Trip Reports)
Algeria With Iberia (BRU-MAD-ALG Rtn) Lots Of Pics (by BrusselsSouth Apr 20 2009 in Trip Reports)
Central Europe BRU-PRG-KSC-BTS-BUD-BRU (100 Pics!) (by BrusselsSouth Sep 3 2008 in Trip Reports)
BA BRU-LHR-JFK-EWR-LHR-BRU (Pics/Vids/go-around) (by BrusselsSouth May 7 2008 in Trip Reports)
One Day Around Europe : 5 Flts / 5 Airlines (pics) (by BrusselsSouth Mar 15 2008 in Trip Reports)

Comments welcome, as always.

Regards
BrusselsSouth

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User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8595 times:

Hola Brussels South!

Great TR, or how a simple route can turn into a great experience... really nice.

I hope your son is doing better and you have a great Christmas and, obviously, a better year 2012.

Glad to see you spent a day in a wonderful city and had great flights. Having motivated crews in all flights makes quite a difference for those of us that often fly around for the pleasure of just enjoying all the frills involved in this activity. You were really lucky to get one of those small Fokkers, I have only flown the F100, but I am sure the F70 and, obviously, the F50, are really great aircraft. I certainly love the way they rocket into the air when taking off.

Thanks for sharing it with us and as said, many happy flights in the coming year.

All the best! Salut!

Joyeux Noël et Bonne année 2012!
Vrolijk Kerstfeest en Gelukkig Nieuwjaar 2012!

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlineburj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 902 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8573 times:

Wow awesome trip report! Love all the photos and the airport map explanation! If I ever fly to/through BRU I will definitely look up this trip report again!

I hope all is well with your son!


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8429 times:

Hi,

nice tripreport, and surprised to see so many snow already in Belgium on that particular day.

Did you buy a oneway on KL? Or can we expect you to use the other half of a return in the future; which will bring of course another interesting report  
Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
We discussed a couple of random topics and I quickly realized he was quite knowledgeable about the European marijuana market. When asked by his travel agent to choose between LHR and AMS for his connection to CGK, he immediately opted for AMS for the simple reason that, according to him, the Dutch airport offered the possibility to smoke in the open air

Nonsense. He stays in transit right? Then he cannot smoke outside in AMS, and only use dedicated smoke cabins located inside the terminal. He should clear immigration if he wants to smoke in open air. Aside from that, you're a crazy guy if you're smoking marihuana inside the passenger terminal at AMS; and even in open air at AMS it is not allowed although you most probably get away with it.



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8285 times:

Hi F,

Good to see you posting another report - I've certainly missed these reports of yours. Always impeccably written, tons of high quality photos (with some nice effects photoshopped in  ), clever and witty observations and those extra touches you put in like the airport satellite views and the Flight Radar maps are certainly something which appeals to me!

I think I should schedule another visit to Charleroi at some point to spice up your life a bit again and have another Mitraulette  . Maybe the new FR flights from TKU will act as a suitable catalyst for me...

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):

After a very difficult and stressful 2011 because of my son's serious health problems, I realized that my flight log would remain desperately empty for the year, something that hadn't happened for a very long time.

I'm sorry to hear this, I thought you were just too busy with the family affairs otherwise. Hope everything indeed is turning towards the better and that next year will be a better and less busier (or busier on other fronts!) one! Kudos to your wife for being so understanding and letting you to have at least one trip with some time for yourself and the things you love. I'm sure you did something similar for her as well!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
I selected a connection on KLM on the inbound leg.

Uhh, I hate to think how much money you had to pony up for that, as one way tickets on KLM usually book into full fare Y. Although maybe you were smart enough to book it as a (throwaway?) return ticket, that should be cheaper.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
As an interesting result of this layout, I went all the way to downtown Copenhagen without having to present any ID document, not even at the gate which is a first for me. .

I see no problem with this. Most of the ID checks on intra-Schengen flights are simply due to the airline guarding its revenue (i.e. to prevent somebody else traveling on a ticket written for another person, just like you described above), not for any law or regulations. Obviously SAS does not see this as such a big problem so they have not implemented it. This is the case on most of their flights, depending a bit on the outstation of course.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):

The cabin condition was OK, clean with only minor stains/dust around the window. The blue cloth seats (31" seat pitch) were reasonably comfortable for the relatively short flight, although some of them had minor signs of wear, no big deal in any case.

Congratulations, despite logging 160 segments with SAS I've never been on one of their A319s. I've heard that the seat comfort is quite bad, though - but judging from your picture it doesn't look any worse than their 737NGs. How do you think?

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
I tried to appear as small and young as possible and to say a few goo-goo ga-ga hoping for the same visit in the F/A's arms, but to no avail as I couldn't fool her. Maybe she had seen my birth date on the manifest or something...

Hah, that's hilarious! You could've just asked - these Danes are relaxed people.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Then enjoyed a magnificient sunrise above northern Germany/southern Denmark:

Beautiful! You know I'm a total sucker for these kind of photos.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Member FlyingFinn76 managed to capture it on a photo during a recent similar landing, although during daylight. See:

Thanks for the honorable mention. I got sort of fascinated by it two years ago when I first saw it and that last time was the first time I managed to see it in plain daylight.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
I made more than 20km (12.5 miles) of planned and random walking during my 7 hours in town. Here are some random pictures:

Wow, that's quite a hike! I can tell you were really longing for some time to yourself, travel and exploration! Copenhagen is of course a lovely city to walk (or even better, cycle!) around. Great photos from there as well, having been there many many times everything looks very familiar.

Did you pay a visit to the Tivoli and the Christmas market there?

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
From what I understood, terminal 2 is actually another, older check-in hall but the way to departures actually leads you back to terminal 3 where you pass security.

Yes, this is indeed the case. Since you had your OLCI boarding pass you could've just continued straight through the T3 check in hall from the train station, taken the escalator up and come to the security check from the opposite side as when entering from T2. But hey, some exploration is always good!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Immediately past security I basically found myself in the middle of a shopping mall where I spotted a "To all gates" sign:

They introduced this annoying feature a couple of years ago. Previously the security was at a completely different place and was far better as it dumped you somewhere airside instead of that store. I hate how more and more airports are doing it!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
The descent began just as I was starting to feel uninterested by the difference in marijuana quality between Copenhagen and Maastricht.

Heh, I can only imagine. If you wanted some peace and quiet you could've just hinted to the guy that you don't really approve of this subject and have some friends at the Dutch customs over at AMS, I'm sure this would've shut him up!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
She then began an impressive sequence of key pressing. As a software analyst, I began to wonder how I could ever design an application requiring that much typing to change a seat assignment, even if I really wanted to do it in a very complicated way.

Tell me about it, I've wondered many times how on earth these software can be so complicated, but then again they were developed back in the 60's and 70's (you know, the airline reservation systems actually were the first systems to require distributed, networked transaction processing and their development made a lot of things we nowadays take for granted possible!) and are still basically slightly modernized versions of those old pieces of... junk.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
As for the vertical profile, it must have been basically a climb followed by an immediate descent, with a low top altitude as I could see drops of rain lit by the aircraft lights during the whole flight.

Oh yes, I flew AMS-BRU-AMS on the F70/F100 back in 2006 and those sure were really fun short flights.


Have a merry Christmas and let's hope 2012 will be a better year!


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1384 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8239 times:

Nice report, thanks for sharing.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
As an interesting result of this layout, I went all the way to downtown Copenhagen without having to present any ID document, not even at the gate which is a first for me. All I needed was a valid barcode on a self printed boarding pass. Come to think of it, someone else could have traveled in my place simply by having my boarding pass (you know, that PDF file that stays in your web browser cache).

Same with LH when you fly intra Schengen from Germany. They require you to check in at the machine, and they would never ever require an ID lateron, unless you want to check in luguage at the counter (however you can check in the bags at the self check in machines yourself in MUC and FRA, too...), they don't care at all if the person named in the ticket is actually flying...


User currently offlineBrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 628 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8230 times:

Thank you all for your comments!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
I've certainly missed these reports of yours. Always impeccably written, tons of high quality photos (with some nice effects photoshopped in ), clever and witty observations and those extra touches you put in like the airport satellite views and the Flight Radar maps are certainly something which appeals to me!
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Thanks for the honorable mention

Thank you for your kind words. I always read every single report of yours (and there are quite a few...) but I never comment by lack of time to write anything meaningful. I appreciate them nonetheless.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
I think I should schedule another visit to Charleroi at some point to spice up your life a bit again and have another Mitraulette . Maybe the new FR flights from TKU will act as a suitable catalyst for me...

You'll be most welcome! We could try another culinary specialty (btw, it's "mitraillette") and hundreds of visits wouldn't be enough to taste all possible Belgian beers. Me coming to Finland would be an equally appealing option.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
I'm sorry to hear this, I thought you were just too busy with the family affairs otherwise. Hope everything indeed is turning towards the better and that next year will be a better and less busier (or busier on other fronts!) one!

Thanks. I'll PM you the details.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Kudos to your wife for being so understanding and letting you to have at least one trip with some time for yourself and the things you love. I'm sure you did something similar for her as well!

You have no idea. And yes, she's up for a full spa weekend, complete with personalized treatment. I can reveal this here as she never lands on this site.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3):
Did you buy a oneway on KL? Or can we expect you to use the other half of a return in the future; which will bring of course another interesting repor
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Uhh, I hate to think how much money you had to pony up for that, as one way tickets on KLM usually book into full fare Y. Although maybe you were smart enough to book it as a (throwaway?) return ticket, that should be cheaper.

This is exactly what happened. The one-way option was horribly expensive, so I bought a return ticket and won't use the return part.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
judging from your picture it doesn't look any worse than their 737NGs. How do you think?

I have zero experience with their 737s, but the A319 was no more or less comfortable than your usual European A319. Having 3 seats for myself certainly helped, though.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
I got sort of fascinated by it two years ago when I first saw it and that last time was the first time I managed to see it in plain daylight.

Believe it or not, I found something creepy about it. I mean, those Christmas lights glowing in the haze in the middle of taxiways... There's certainly something fascinating about it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Wow, that's quite a hike! I can tell you were really longing for some time to yourself, travel and exploration! Copenhagen is of course a lovely city to walk (or even better, cycle!) around

Exactly, and I should add that it really boosted me up.

And I was very impressed by the number of bicycles (admittedly, I've never visited Amsterdam).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Did you pay a visit to the Tivoli and the Christmas market there?

You'll be interested to know that I considered this after I read your trip report. However, as I didn't have much time, I concentrated on walking through the city proper.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Yes, this is indeed the case. Since you had your OLCI boarding pass you could've just continued straight through the T3 check in hall from the train station, taken the escalator up and come to the security check from the opposite side as when entering from T2. But hey, some exploration is always good!

I figured that later. But as you say, it allowed me to explore the place.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 4):
Heh, I can only imagine. If you wanted some peace and quiet you could've just hinted to the guy that you don't really approve of this subject and have some friends at the Dutch customs over at AMS, I'm sure this would've shut him up!

You're right, but in a way, the guy was nice and it was funny to hear about his experiences. Only after some time did it become boring.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 1):
I hope your son is doing better and you have a great Christmas and, obviously, a better year 2012.

Thank you! Merry Christmas to you too.

Quoting burj (Reply 2):
Wow awesome trip report! Love all the photos and the airport map explanation! If I ever fly to/through BRU I will definitely look up this trip report again!

I hope all is well with your son!

Thank you, I appreciate this.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 3):
Nonsense. He stays in transit right? Then he cannot smoke outside in AMS, and only use dedicated smoke cabins located inside the terminal. He should clear immigration if he wants to smoke in open air. Aside from that, you're a crazy guy if you're smoking marihuana inside the passenger terminal at AMS; and even in open air at AMS it is not allowed although you most probably get away with it.

I absolutely agree with you. I was trying to illustrate the fact that the guy had probably one foot on another planet.

Regards
BrusselsSouth


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1789 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7856 times:

Hello BrusselsSouth,

Excellent reading and photo material you've published here. I like the added maps, I just wonder if you did log the routings with a GPS receiver or you got them from a website like flightradar24.com or so?
A nice day in CPH, a little pity about the darkness when in flight but it's wintertime after all  
And last but not least, I hope your son is OK now and you will be able to enjoy some flights in the near future (and post some reports here). It's always nice to read other people's experiences on your home airport!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
My itinerary (BRU-CPH-AMS-CPH) was not the cheapest

I guess it wasn't. If they were all one ways, then I'd think the SAS flights were quite cheap in contrast to the KLM flights.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
The fact is that all kind of traffics in Belgium (including air traffic) can quickly turn into a nightmare at the first sighting of snow, of which we only have a couple of days every year.

Yes you're right, we are very afraid of snow, even much more in Flanders then in Wallonia!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
and left the park in "Front Park 2", which, at 16 euros, is supposed to be the cheapest parking option for a day trip.

Yes, FP2 is indeed the cheapest. Last month I was in CRL and the cheapest rate in long term parking is € 16 as well. I took the wrong parking entrance then, being right at the building entrance but having to pay € 18 for one day of parking. A true scam, those airport parkings, and the fee did not rhyme with 'the friendly airport' as CRL profiles itself.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Come to think of it, someone else could have traveled in my place simply by having my boarding pass (you know, that PDF file that stays in your web browser cache).

But most times they do perform ID control when boarding. On all my flights last year I remember this having been done at BRU.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
I tried to appear as small and young as possible and to say a few goo-goo ga-ga hoping for the same visit in the F/A's arms, but to no avail as I couldn't fool her.

And you did not ask for a visit after the flight? SAS crews are mostly very accomodating on this.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Aircraft details

- Boeing 737-7K2 (with winglets), CN 38128, LN 3797, reg. PH-BGW
- First flight on 25-SEP-2011 (0.2 years old)
- Delivered to KLM on 11-OCT-2011 (first operator)
- Named "Zanglijster"

That's cool: you're first KLM and with a bird this recent. The aircraft name however I think sounds a bit stupid, a "zanglijster' is basically just a species of bird but a very common one.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7798 times:

Hi BrusselsSouth!

Great tripreport! For sure something I enjoyed reading!
Thanks for writing about BRU airport and it's piers at the beginning. I visited BRU in early 2010 and I must say, the A-pier is stunning.
How nice to catch a ride on a Fokker 70. I should try to fly a F70 or F100 before they are gone.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
- First time on KLM.
- First time on SAS.
- First time on the Fokker 70.
- First time at AMS.
- First time at CPH.
- First time in Denmark.

That's a nice list of firsts!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
The Starbucks in the background used to be the only one in Belgium. There are currently 6 of them in the country, of which 3 are located in various corners of Brussels Airport:

I hope Starbucks in Sweden goes the same path, we currently only have a single one, located at ARN.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Because of reflection on the windows, this is all I could snap of OY-KBP waiting for her next departure to CPH.

Too bad you didn't get the retro painted one. With only 4 A319 in the SK fleet the odds isn't too bad.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):

The cabin condition was simply pristine, unsurprisingly given the very young age of the aircraft (delivered only 2 months ago)

Did it have the new plane smell?  

Martin


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7678 times:

Hi BrusselsSouth

I hope your son is doing a little better!
Nice to see a trip report from you! I really like all the details provided in here.
Thanks for the CPH-insight as well, is nice to read since I will be going there in march next year!


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 720 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7555 times:

Salut Francois,

excellent trip report. Nice little daytrip you have put together here. Two airlines, three different plane types (including the rare F70) and even some time to visit the city of Copenhagen, well done. I really like it how you put all the maps with the flight routes and even the taxi routes in the report. Do you use a GPS device or just write down the taxi routes?

Great pictures from Copenhagen, must be an interesting city. I wanted to visit it as well last time I had a long connection there, but unfortunately the weather was so bad that I just skipped it.

Very good service you experienced from KLM, especially the lady on ground in AMS. That is how it always should be.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
(this is how I tried to turn a failed attempt at taking a photo of the large flights display panel into something):

...and it was successful, very nice picture.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
A couple of glasses of white wine later (watching planes while sipping a glass of wine is close to my definition of paradise),

  

Now I sincerely hope that your son will get better soon and I wish you and your family a successful and hopefully better year 2012.

CaptainRed


User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7539 times:

Hi Francois,

What a nice trip report you've written! And congratulations for scoring so many "firsts"!. Hopefully your son is doing fine and the year of 2012 will bring you many more interesting trips.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
as I wanted something I hadn't tried before, I selected a connection on KLM on the inbound leg.

That sure costed you an arm and a leg if you booked it as a one way? On the other hand I've seen quite good return fares for AMS-CPH-AMS (something around 100 EUR) which is still acceptable if you throw away the return or use it at a later occasion.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
As no seat had been automatically assigned, I clicked on the "Change Seat" link to select a window seat on the right side of this A319 (21F):

...perhaps indicating a low load on your flight with so many seats available?

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
So I said "No thank you, skip this step" and found myself on the last page of the process where the system asked me to note that a boarding pass was required...

At least when flying from CPH with SK and you do OLCI the system asks you to confirm you have printed your boarding pass, after which you can no more print it (neither from a kiosk at the airport). I found this very surprising and it is quite a new thing - it had never happened to me before August despite having flown CPH-HEL many times with them.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
As boarding time approached, it became evident that the load factor wouldn't be fantastic for our flight:

Well well, what did I just say?  
Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Then enjoyed a magnificient sunrise above northern Germany/southern Denmark:

What a great shot!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
I observed one of the female F/A taking care of a couple with their young boy (around 1-2 years old). She took some time to entertain the kid and even took him in her arms for a lengthy flight deck visit! Overall, the F/As were smiling and seemed to enjoy their job. I tried to appear as small and young as possible and to say a few goo-goo ga-ga hoping for the same visit in the F/A's arms, but to no avail as I couldn't fool her. Maybe she had seen my birth date on the manifest or something...

Well, that's what makes SAS special - their crews. All the times I've flown with SK - I've never seen a disinterested crew member. That said, I still think they could offer free coffee in economy class too.  
Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
This first flight of day came to an end when we parked at gate D2, next to a SAS Mad Dog (MD-82 LN-RML):

A nice looking bird that I have logged CPH-HEL on. As a matter of fact, all my SAS flights have been on the MD-80. My attempt to log their CRJ-900 in August didn't pay off - my flight was cancelled plus I've seen many last minute equipment changes. On the other hand you can't really complain - the MD's are such nice birds.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
Another cool thing is that trains are automatic (driverless) which offers a great forward view to passengers sitting at the front:

Yeah, I was so amazed in Dubai about their automated metro system - only to find out I can ride one in Copenhagen instead.  

Regards,
717Flyer   


User currently offlinefasty From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7468 times:

Very nice and interesting report.

Seeing so many pics of my home airport always makes me nostalgic, and this satellite map of BRU with color codes to identify terminals was a good idea ! So were the addition of the airport charts.

Copenhague looks great, looks like 7 hours were enough to get the best out of it.

Hope to see more reports from you in the future.

Thomas


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6675 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (2 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 6823 times:

Hi Francois !

I'm very happy to see another report from you; it's been too long. Too bad about your son's health problems but good to hear that he's doing better. Having had kidney problems myself (dialysis for over 3 years) problems with health is always difficult. At least I got a new kidney thru transplant about three months ago so I'm doing much better now.

Wonderful pictures and maps and nice that you made so many firsts in one trip !

Very much hoping that your son will get much better son and that we'll see more trip reports from you as well.

Happy New Year !

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2484 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (2 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 6815 times:

Hi Francois,

Great photos! It seems like you really got around in downtown Copenhagen! I think you utilized the time you had available in the city well!

I flew on the same A319 as you (OY-KBP), back in October between CPH-ARN.


User currently offlineBrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 628 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (2 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 6744 times:

Thank you all for your comments, really much appreciated.

Thank you in particular for asking about my son's health and wishing him well. He's getting better by the day but still has a long way to go before recovery is complete (he suffered from leukemia). We'll need 2 full years without relapse before we finally can say the healing is complete.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Having had kidney problems myself (dialysis for over 3 years) problems with health is always difficult. At least I got a new kidney thru transplant about three months ago so I'm doing much better now.

I'm very glad to hear that you had a successful transplant. My son went through a stem cell transplant that has been successful (so far), but it has been a very difficult treatment. I realize that this is very different from what you went through, though.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
I just wonder if you did log the routings with a GPS receiver or you got them from a website like flightradar24.com or so?
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):
Do you use a GPS device or just write down the taxi routes?

I used FlightRadar24.com (excellent site btw) for the inflight portions, and I just paid attention to the taxi routes for the ground portions. The last flight (AMS-BRU) did not appear on FR24 though, which is strange since a good number of KLM F70 flights are shown.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
Yes, FP2 is indeed the cheapest. Last month I was in CRL and the cheapest rate in long term parking is € 16 as well. I took the wrong parking entrance then, being right at the building entrance but having to pay € 18 for one day of parking. A true scam, those airport parkings, and the fee did not rhyme with 'the friendly airport' as CRL profiles itself.

I agree. I considered taking the train to BRU, but there weren't any options arriving early enough for my flight. Not that it would have cost much less, though.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
But most times they do perform ID control when boarding. On all my flights last year I remember this having been done at BRU.

That was my point. It was the first time I did not have to provide any form of identification all the way from leaving my home to walking in my destination city.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 7):
The aircraft name however I think sounds a bit stupid, a "zanglijster' is basically just a species of bird but a very common one.

  Maybe they just ran out of sensible names. Btw I like it when airlines give a name to their planes.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 8):
Did it have the new plane smell?

Unfortunately not, but then again I was seated beside a marijuana smoker  
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):
...and it was successful, very nice picture.

Thanks!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
That sure costed you an arm and a leg if you booked it as a one way? On the other hand I've seen quite good return fares for AMS-CPH-AMS (something around 100 EUR) which is still acceptable if you throw away the return or use it at a later occasion.

This is exactly what I did: booking a return ticket and dropping the return part. Much cheaper than buying a one-way (which is stupid IMO).

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
...perhaps indicating a low load on your flight with so many seats available?

The load was low, but even a full flight can show many vacant seats during check-in if you're among the first ones to check-in.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
Well, that's what makes SAS special - their crews. All the times I've flown with SK - I've never seen a disinterested crew member. That said, I still think they could offer free coffee in economy class too.

Agreed. Motivated crew but nothing for free.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
As a matter of fact, all my SAS flights have been on the MD-80.

Actually, I would have liked to fly one of their MD's as the type is becoming rare, but it wasn't possible for schedule reasons.



Thank you all again for your comments, I wish you a very successful 2012.

Regards
BrusselsSouth


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6675 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6551 times:

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 15):
I'm very glad to hear that you had a successful transplant. My son went through a stem cell transplant that has been successful (so far), but it has been a very difficult treatment. I realize that this is very different from what you went through, though.

For me. it's been very easy so far and I'm probably going back to work in about a week. Hope things get better for you, probably much more difficult for your son than me. Hope he gets well very soon.

The777Man



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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3025 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6451 times:

HI BrusselsSouth,

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
After a very difficult and stressful 2011 because of my son's serious health problems

I hope his improvements continue and he recovers completely soon.

Good to see you had a good day out, nice flights.

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
I received an SMS from SAS to inform me that online check-in was now open for my flight.:

Those Danish coins with holes in always intrigue me  
Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
The fact is that all kind of traffics in Belgium (including air traffic) can quickly turn into a nightmare at the first sighting of snow, of which we only have a couple of days every year.

Sounds like us in the UK as well!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
our taxi to runway 25R

I like your airport plans, and good memory for your taxi routes on them!

Quoting BrusselsSouth (Thread starter):
I made more than 20km (12.5 miles) of planned and random walking

That's a lot! good for the health, but not if the weather is too cold!

Nice easy connection at AMS for you, one of the best and easiest transfer airports in my opinion.

Thanks for the report!

signol



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