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Flying North On The ATR! HEL-OUL/KEM-HEL  
User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7482 times:

Welcome to my 6th Trip Report

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Hi all,

My last trip report came online in September (see here: Weekend Of Surprises! HEL-AMS-CPH-HEL (by 717Flyer Sep 3 2011 in Trip Reports) ). One of my meanings with this trip reports is to prove that I'm alive, I'm still flying and I'm just as thrilled about it as before. Between now and my last trip report I've basically only been flying some HEL-OUL and v.v. runs on the Boeing 717. Those flights have been nice (what else would you expect when the equipment is a 717?) but nothing to report about - standard KF flights, pretty much on time, really nice cabin crew and some good coffee served from cups with witty remarks on them. (I think you all know the Blue1 economy service concept by your heart after reading the reports available here on Airliners.net).

Welcome to my newest trip report, my 6th TR, featuring my Christmas trip visiting friends and family living close to Rovaniemi in Finnish Lapland.

Disclaimer: By reading these words you are accepting the following terms and conditions: All kind of personal and secret stuff about you may be gathered and forwarded to various European (and non-European) governments. Excessive amounts of pictures of the ATR 72 (read on and you’ll see) are possible - you are reading at your own risk!

I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and didn't get too frightened by my attempt to sound like a politician. Now enjoy the report!

Introduction
(Yes, a rather long one - I ain’t forcing you to read it!)

Christmas is once a year. Or at least it used to be, and according to various reliable sources it still is. And in all of its glory this holiday was also the reason for this trip to pop up.

Picture the perfect Christmas. Leave all worries, exams and school projects behind. It's the time to relax - and escape from the commercialized capital - far away from supermarkets, internet connections and the stressed atmosphere. It is early afternoon, yet it is almost black outside, but the large piles of snow reflect light and gives a nice surrounding to the large christmas tree in the garden, already covered in snow. Your thinking is interrupted by a familiar sound - food is ready!

That's how I decided to spend my Christmas this year, surrounded by wonderful friends and relatives, yet far away from the everyday chores. This journey would of course not take place without some nice flights around it.

With my school ending early in the morning on Thursday December 22nd I decided I wanted to fly away the very same day. The goal was of course to catch something new, and in the end this time was no exception!

Located some 60 kilometers from the city of Rovaniemi, the most comfortable option is to fly to RVN, but nonstop flights to Rovaniemi were ruled out because they were too expensive - Norwegian wanted some 140 EUR for a one way ticket (plus their flights aren't anything special to talk about). Another idea was to use some expiring Finnair Plus points to buy an award ticket on one of the HEL-RVN flights operated by the Boeing 757 (something sure out of the ordinary and which was also covered here on A.net some time ago). There wasn't any award tickets available anymore as I wanted to book so what I looked up next was good old Blue1. Indeed they were willing to sell me a youth ticket for 50 EUR on an 11.30 flight to OUL. As an added bonus the flight was operated by one of the ATR 72s that Golden Air operate for Blue1. Before this trip I had never flown with Golden Air before, so that was nice!

Things got a bit harder as a friend of mine (too old to travel on a youth ticket!) decided to join me on this trip. First of all he was very reluctant to the flights I had chosen - ("Why not pay a bit more if we can fly straight to Rovaniemi?") but anyway I convinced him this was the best option. Now, as Blue1 has, because of some very weird reason, withdrawn all reasonably priced one way fares on domestic flights in Finland (and my friend wasn't in the mood of paying 177 EUR for a one way ticket) we combined the outbound flight to OUL with a return flight timed for the Easter next year. This way, his return ticket cost around 100 EUR, which of course is much more acceptable.

The return journey was also clear - I wanted to try out Flybe Nordic. They happily sold me a KEM-HEL ticket for 49 EUR on a late night flight one week later on December 29.

Then came the bad side of the story. As I wasn't flying to or from RVN on either of the occasions, I had to buy TWO train tickets. With the student discount I get they are a bit more reasonably priced - while my friend didn't have access to such cheap fares. So yes, I definitely avoid getting into business with VR (that's the name of our superb train company) - but what can you do when you're forced into something.

This is how my travel ended up looking like (including train rides) featuring two new airlines (well, almost) and two rides on the modern ATR 72:

(Thanks to Great Circle Mapper!)



One day, I saw the following mail having landed in my mailbox:
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Now, Blue1 sure knows which buttons to push on me. To be called Dear passenger and being told It is our privilege to serve you - well - it made me melt. There was only one thing to do! I submitted an upgrade request to Blue1 Premium via Optiontown - and whoa - some weeks before departure the upgrade cleared. My first flight ever in business class (well, sort of) was about to begin! (And after all, what could have been a better way to celebrate the beginning of my holiday than to do it in a more luxurious way).

Wednesday 21.12.2011
Exactly as advertised - I get an email some 22 hours before departure about my flight being open for checkin. I log onto my computer right after getting home and select seat 18A on the Blue1 flight. (I know that someone else from this forum has also been sitting in that seat!).

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That is the second last row on the ATR. Now you might wonder why on earth I'm sitting in the back part of the cabin when travelling in a Premium class that often is referred to as travelling "upfront". Well, on these Blue1 ATR:s Premium class is on the last rows because they're close to the exit in the rear plus being behind the props is considered to be more comfortable.

I also print out my boarding pass,which looks like this:
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It makes me wonder of a couple of things.
1. I am relieved to see "Golden Air" written under my flight number as that was one of the main goals of going with this flight instead of the later afternoon flight (see, I skipped a ride on the 717 in order to catch Golden Air!)
2. Why is my travel class listed as Y? Perhaps because I was originally planning to travel in economy but got upgraded?
3. Why is the travel class named"Economy Extra". They should have thought of changing it to "Blue1 Premium" also on the boarding passes.
4. I wonder how I am "only" passenger nr 12 to check in as I logged onto blue1.fi exactly as checkin was due to open. Perhaps some connecting passengers, as KF flights from ARN, OSL, CPH are offering some smooth connections onto Oulu on my flight.

Thursday 22.12.2011
Waking up at 5.00 a.m. in order to make myself ready for our Christmas party at school (and yes, I know, it is crazily timed) and also being excited about my upcoming flight, I pack my belongings and head for the bus stop. Do I need to tell you it feels weird leaving to school knowing you will head for the airport immediately afterwards?

After some Christmas carols, some diverse performances by both teachers and students I finally say goodbye to all my friends and begin my journey to the airport.
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As I arrive there I notice I'm not alone. Terminal 1 is actually pretty much packed with people and check-in queues are ridiculously long. Having a bag to check in I am not amused...
...until I remember the bright side of life! I'm actually travelling in Blue1 Premium today - so I head for the dedicated business class check in desk with only one passenger in front of me. (Blue1 Premium Surprise I).

In such situations I guess one should act cool and seem to be a very routined business traveller, but well, that doesn't suit me at all. I tell the agent this is the first time I'm flying "this way". She tells me to enjoy the experience and points out my flight is on time leaving at 11.30 with bus boarding (what else on the ATR?) from gate 14A.

A view of the lower check in floor:
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Despite being in the middle of the day there is a bit of a queue for security control and I sigh. Until I remember I am travelling in Premium and that I am entitled to use the Fast Track Security Line! (Blue1 Premium Surprise II).

As I approach the guy admitting people there I can exactly read his thoughts: "That guy is definitely not travelling in business. Why is he coming here only to make me tell him he's not allowed here. People can be hard sometimes" but before he has the time to say anything I tell him "Hiya, I'm travelling in Premium today". He's taken by surprise and before needing to ask he already has my boarding pass in his hand. To impress him even further I quickly go through security without a beep. I feel like waving happily at him, but, oh well, you need to be discrete at some times.

What catches my attention immediately after clearing security is the new layout of the gate monitors. One of the major changes is that the destination of a flight is now written much larger than before (well, before you had to be one step away from the monitor in order to see anything) so it is an improvement.
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Not many seconds after arriving airside and dreamingly looking at the Scandinavian Lounge (nope, you're only entitled there when travelling in Premium on European flights) I spot one of the lounge attendants (can you call them so?), a familiar face to me and we have a really nice chat right outside the lounge. She tells me she'd love to let me in but that rules are rules. However she does bring some newspapers from the lounge, which is greatly appreciated! (Blue1 Premium Surprise III, okay I’ll stop listing them now - we can just add that flying Premium is an experience full of surprises).

Not many seconds after this nice chat I see another familiar face just going through security control - it is one of my class mates! We decide to have a cup of coffee together and on the way there, as we pass by a KF 717 she comments "That plane is different! And it looks good!". Now that's a clever girl! I tell her she's actually flying on one of those planes (she was flying to ARN on KF) which makes her a bit confused. As I tell her I'm leaving for OUL I decide to skip the part about Golden Air and Blue1 Premium in order not to confuse her even further.


A 2 EUR croissant and an all too small plate:
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Nice motif on the coffee cup (I still prefer the KF ones with witty remarks though).
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The cafe is located right next to the assigned departure gate of 14A, so we sit there until my flight is boarding. Another silver lining is that I have a perfect view of a 717 (well, not any, but OH-BLG), preparing for departure to ZRH:
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Another thing I notice is a truck of Turkish ground handling company Havas. These are indeed getting more and more usual at HEL as airBaltic sold their North Hub Services company to this Turkish company. Actually it wasn't very surprising thinking Havas owned half of the shares from the beginning. So to sum it up BT now has one thing less to worry about.

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A T-tail - and you can even see bits of another T-tail in the background
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Choose what you look at - either the 717 (that's my pick), that colorful cargo Saab or some other Havas equipment
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My boarding pass states boarding time as 11.05 for my flight, yet my boarding pass is scanned already at 10:53 (yes, I looked at my watch). As the boarding call is made, they mention nothing at all about the flight being operated by Golden Air however they do tell us that "the flight is completely fully booked so please remember the limit of only one piece of hand luggage per passenger". This is getting Ryanair-ish! (Yes, that's an adjective!)

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SE-MDI , ATR 72-212A, CN 930, was delivered to Golden Air on October 22, 2010 and has been flying with Blue1 ever since. This gives the plane an age of 1.2 years.


The bus ends up completely full and I also spot some deadheading Blue1 FAs in full uniform in the bus. More about them later.

As the bus slows down when getting closer to this plane I hear a lot of interesting comments from my fellow passengers. "That plane is awfully small!" "That plane doesn't look at all like a Blue1 plane should do, does it"? (Yeah, I agree, a 717 looks more beautiful). However I think they go to far as they ask one of the deadheading FAs "This isn't the right plane at all, right?". She just smiles and assures them that "yes, this is the right plane, look, there is Blue1 stickers on it!". This comment seems to calm down these anxious passengers.

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We are waiting for a FA to show thumbs up to the bus driver but it takes some time. As she finally arrives at the back door she points at our ATR with both thumbs up. That's the way to go! I am one of the last ones to exit the bus and I enjoy the great photo opportunities

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This is what it looks like when 69 passengers try to board an ATR 72 at the same time (well, two deadheading FAs in the background are chatting and one crazy A.netter is taking pictures all around the place)
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If the airline is named Blue1, then it kinda makes sense that the *engines* are also blue
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SE-MDI, a new one for my log!
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(What if it would be SE-MOI, pronounced as C'est moi in French - talk about a selfish airplane!)

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Hmm, perhaps they should wash this plane a bit more often:
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As I take this photo I hear the FA laughing in the background:
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As I step onboard the first thing I hear from the female FA isn't "Hi" or "Welcome onboard" but "Don't you dare to take a photo of me! Yeah, and welcome onboard too!" followed by some laughter.

Cabin view:
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A look at my seat:
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A Finncomm (yeah, I have a hard time saying it's a Flybe one since it is still in full FC colors) ATR spiced with a scratchy window:
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Then comes this guy with some bad news:
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Boarding is completed around 11.20 for our 11.30 departure and our Finnish captain gives us a nice welcome speech, mentioning our flight time as 1 hour 20 minutes. Then he brings the bad news - we are still waiting for a mechanic to bring some documents. He promises to get back to us in ten minutes.

Cabin crew is one male and one female (well, you already know her sense of humor by now!). The deadheading FAs are seated in the row in front of me so it is quite interesting to listen to their chat.

The mandatory leg room shot:
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Oh dear, can they never get the class divider right:
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The three last rows are Blue1 Premium, not the 16 first rows!

The load is 100 % in all classes:
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Meanwhile, the crew is filling out some paperwork and they wonder about our scheduled arrival time, so I tell them that it's 12.50. And so I'm being interrogated:
-"So, you think you know these things?"
How many passengers do we have today?
-"72".
-"What's the flight number?"
-"KF217".
-"What is the aircraft type?"
-"You could wake me up in the middle of the night and I'd know this is an ATR 72! And I didn't look at the safety card!"
-"What is the maximum number of infants allowed on the ATR 72 according to our company regulations?"
-"What could it be? Five?"
-"Damn, you got it right"!

The interrogation comes to a quick stop as they notice there is 72 passengers and six infants onboard today, while only five infants are allowed.

In the end one mother and her infant leave the aircraft. The crew is deeply sorry and are trying to stuff all kinds of sandwhiches and drinks with them, but the mother wants none.

Sorry guys:
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Pre-departure drinks are offered, I choose orange juice:
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Some people can easily be recognized by their hat, but if you ever see someone with an orange notebook (by any chance with a Blue1 sticker on it) then that's me!

At this point one passenger, seated on the other side of the aisle is getting worried about the delay. He apparently has some kind of an important meeting in OUL and stops the male FA toask about the delay. "Unfortunately I have nothing to tell you", he tells him. Not very impressive customer service - the guy is clearly irritated by this - but the female FA also notices this and comes back to the gentleman. "Let's do it like this: You ask your question once again and I try to answer it as good as I can. Then you pick the answer you liked the most and the winner will serve the Premium cabin on this flight". The passenger doesn't know what to say - but in the end he repeates his question. "Well, our scheduled arrival time to Oulu is 12.50, and we are going to be a bit delayed. I will make a call to find out and then I will get back to you".

A moment later she comes back and tells him that "Our new estimated time of departure is at 12.00, I don't believe we can make that, but a 12.10 departure is realistic so I'd estimate we'll be there at around 13.20. Do you need to make any phone calls? Would you like a pillow or a blanket? Would like any more drinks?". No one says anything but it is quite sure who won this round, and knowing this I get a feeling this is going to be a great flight.

The male FA is definitely taken by surprise and so am I. I thank her for the information explaining that I am catching a train from Oulu onwards. She asks if I want the phone number to VR (our train company), but I tell her I'm fine.

Happenings of the ATR between 11.58 and 12.07
11.58 Passengers complain about it being cold inside the aircraft
11.59 The back door is closed (whee!)
12.00 A water run is done
12.00 The captain is on the speakers, pushback expected within five minutes and an apology for the delay
12.01 Knocking on the back door
12.03 A mechanic delivers the aircraft documentation
12.04 The FA gives the mechanic a hug and wishes him a Merry Christmas
12.04 Door is closed
12.04 Safety demo (these guys are fast!)
12.07 Pushback the way it can only be done in an ATR

Yet another announcement is done by the FA explaining that "we at Blue1 (hmm, what about Golden Air?) hope we did not ruin your Christmas spirit. I am really sorry for the delay and do enjoy the flight. The flight time to Oulu is now only 1 hour 15 minutes - this ATR is almost a time machine":

Our taxi is very fast (see, they are trying really hard to catch up!) and I have a hard time getting a good shot of this Lufty A321:
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Pick the most beautiful plane (note; there is only one right answer!)
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Our five-minute taxi soon comes to an end...
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...and we dig into the gray skies from runway 22R:
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Cruising in the ATR, sitting in Premium class, yes, this is life:
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Shall we explore the offerings of the seat pocket?

Safety card (that I found back home inside the inflight magazine that had slipped inside my backpack because of some weird reason - what a bad safety card!)
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Inflight magazine:
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The magazine contained an interesting feature about Blue1 aiming to reach a 100 % punctuality.
Sorry mate, I don't think it will happen, as I am just sitting on a company flight that is delayed:
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But this Premium ad is good, one of many things it did is that it remained me I will get 200 % EuroBonus points for my flight (or actually more thanks to the PointBooster campaign!)
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This one is for Hannah! It says "Switzerland is the chocolate heart of Europe"
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To calm down all possible future Blue1 fliers on this forum - there was quite a lot of English features in the magazine too, so nothing to worry about.

Not expecting anything else apart from a sandwhich I am really surprised as our wonderful FA soon approaches us with this meal tray - Blue1 has apparently upgraded their Premium catering lately!
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Roast beef with salad leaves and vegetables...
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...served together with cucumber salad:
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The roast beef was juicy and delicious and the spicy cucumber salad made the meal a perfect combination. Together with the fresh vegetables the meal was really light and enjoyable -absolutely one of the best airplane meals I've had (still nothing beats Turkish Airlines' economy class offerings - it's just fantastic!). But let's save that story for another occasion, shall we?

The meal tray also came with a small bottle of Italian red wine.

There's a tub with water on the meal tray and other drinks are also offered, I go with another glass of orange juice:
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What would a Blue1 trip report be without a witty remark, this time featured on the meal tray:
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The meal is nicely topped with some Fazer chocolates (yes, Hannah!):
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This is finished with some coffee that was so good I forgot to take a photo of it.

Here's proof that the meal was great:
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I am just about to enjoy the rest of the flight reading a novel of Paul Auster, but I am interrupted by the FA. She asks some questions about why I am taking pictures and I point out that I could have gone with an evening flight on the B717 but chose this flight (with a slightly more uncomfortable schedule) just to fly the Golden Air ATR 72. "You're the first one I hear that is happy about ending up in this plane". Before leaving she tells me that "I'll go and hand out some games and toys for the children onboard. I'll also look if I can find something suitable for you". I assure her a ride in Premium class is the perfect Christmas gift already, but a moment later she returns with a yatzy game and some SAS playing cards.
"One is never to old to play yatzy plus these playing cards are the only thing onboard that have a plane on them, so I guess they fit you well. Even though it isn't a Golden Air ATR pictured there..."
"...yeah, its a SAS B737, but thanks a lot! You've been great!".

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Soon our captain is on the mike again, telling us we will soon start our descent towards OUL, landing expected in 15 minutes. The weather in Oulu is expected to be around zero degrees, but with some cold winds. He once again apologizes for the delay.

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Look, there's snow!:
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The island of Hailuoto is somewhere in the distance:
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A ruther bumpy landing on runway 12 at 13.17, 27 minutes late, is not followed by any applause.
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Now I will borrow one element from Nils' latest trip report - "Titles on the building, I'm at the right airport!"
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As usual there is a huge rush to get out of the aircraft and the deadheading FAs seated in front of me are the first ones to get up as the seat belt sign is turned off. One of them gives the nice FA on duty a bag with some gingerbread she made at home with her daughter (yeah, you hear all kinds of things when listening to deadheading FA's discussing with each other). They start hugging each other - blocking the exit - and the expression on many of the passengers' faces are priceless: "First we have to fly in a small weird plane like this, then they're delayed, they make all kind of weird announcements and now we can't disembark because the FAs are hugging each other. What an airline!".

Finally, they say goodbye to each other and everyone else can disembark.

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Soon, the guy worried about his meeting and I are pretty much the only passengers left onboard. The nice FA asks the man "Are you still mad at me for bringing you to Oulu half an hour delayed?"
He mumbles something you really can't make clear of, so she says "Well, soon you are no more! Have a gingerbread". In the end he even cracks a smile and wishes her a Merry Christmas. "See I'm good at bribing people", she points out to me.

I tell her she doesn't need to bribe me at all - that this was a great flight. "Oh no, I can bribe planespotters too! Come on - have a gingerbread!". Instead of accepting her bribe (see, this TR is my own opinion in every way) I say she should enjoy them herself instead. "Well, I'll bribe my next load of passengers instead - Merry Christmas!".

All this time the male FA has just been standing there, staring at us when his colleague wakes him up. "Oh come on you, we have a plane to clean!".

The ground agent outside the aircraft asks me "What took you so long?" and I reply "Nothing, but if you're nice to the FA in the back she may give you some gingerbread!". She seems happy with my explanation.

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This one is for Markus:
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The FA waves happily at me but disappears behind the door when I try to capture a photo...

Bye, and thanks for a great flight:
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The moment I enter the arrivals hall the boarding call for the return flight is made, quite impressive.

Arrivals board:
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Merry Christmas:
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Look at how large and bright the new arrivals hall is:
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The bus line 19 to the city centre leaves three times per hour (at 13.05, 13.25, 13.45, 14.05 etc.) My bag is one of the first ones out on the belt and by running I make it to the 13.45 bus! (Actually, the bus driver had already left the bus stop but he let me in anyway). The driver was a really nice chap, explaining my problem about being late for my train he promised to drive as fast as he can as well as shout to me at the stop I'm supposed to get off. I know I could have taken a taxi but that is something avoid as far as I can.

In the end the route that took some 35 minutes in October now takes only about 15 minutes, thanks!

Bye bye, dirty bus (but with a nice driver):
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A part of Rotuaari, the main street in Oulu:
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I get to the railway station after some running from the bus stop, only to see my train just leaving the platform. Oh well.

The lady in the ticket office is really helpful. I tell her my story (After taking a bus, a train and another bus in order to take a flight that was delayed and to continue with a local bus and then missing my train...) and she promises to take a look at what she can do. I know the next train is leaving some three hours later and taking into consideration the change fee of 5 EUR plus the supplement of the later train being a quicker InterCity train I should be paying around 10 EUR. Therefore I am surprised when she only asks for 3,30 EUR.
"What happened to the 5 EUR change fee", I ask her.
"Nah, just have a Merry Christmas!" is her answer. Nice customer service!

In a matter of minutes I am booked on the later 17.32 InterCity service to Rovaniemi and she even grants my wish of a window seat on the upper floor.

Finally I ask her if she could recommend any places where to eat so she tells me about her favourite place - a bar-restaurant named Oskarin Kellari right on the other side of the street. She adds that "And you can come back here for dessert, we have gingerbread and glögi (that's our Glühwein in Finland) here in the ticket office... I thank her and once again wish her a Merry Christmas (hmm, how many times did I do that during the day?)

The new train tickets:
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Oskarin kellari could be translated as "Oskari's cellar" in English which is quite an appropriate name for the restaurant as it actually is like a small and cozy cellar under the street level. They are offering a buffet with traditional Christmas food, which fits my plans perfectly.

The food is absolutely delicious (well, that is what Finnish Christmas food usually tastes like) so I take a second portion of everything. And the waitress is really cute too (Sorry Markus - no photo).

Sinfully delicious food - Part I
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Sinfully delicious food - Part II
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And the proper way to end any meal is with a cup of coffee and with some nice pastries that can be called joulutorttu in Finnish, jultårta in Swedish or Julkuchen in German. I guess the best way to describre these lovely thingies in English would be to call them a pastry made out of butter filled with some plum jam with some confectioners' sugar on top.
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As it is raining cats and dogs outside I spend my three hours in this restaurant, eating a lot, drinking and chatting with the lovely waitress. Then, some 20 minutes before the departure of my train I make my way across the street, step into the railway station and walk straight into the train.

Leg room shot:
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Cabin view
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Maybe these could be called futuristic airplane seats? Who knows?
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We arrive to Rovaniemi bang on time at 19.53 and what makes me really happy when deboarding the train is that I notice that not only is the ground covered with snow - there is lots of snow here.

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Some hours later I fall asleep in my bed and think about the wonderful day that just had come to an end.


Friday 23.12.2011 - On The Hunt for a Christmas Tree

After a wonderful 10 hours of sleep, I feel pretty human as I wake up the next morning. What really makes me wake up in a matter of seconds is the view from the window:

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Here it is, the lucky one that will get to work as our Christmas tree:
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Five minutes later:
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Five hours later:
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It's quite depressive to have this view despite the time only being 4 p.m., on the other hand I am surrounded with friends and family, so who am I to complain?
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Saturday 24.12 and Sunday 25.12.2011 .

To make a long story short:
Christmas. Food. More food. Friends. Relatives. Coffee. More food. More friends. Nice.

Monday 26.12.2011 - Swedish humor

Waking up to yet another gorgeous morning...
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...noticing we need to make some grocery shopping and at the same time we decide to make a visit to Sweden. The border is actually only about a one hour drive away.

The Christmas street in the little city of Övertorneå:
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Övertorneå kyrka -Övertorneå church:
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A Piece of Swedish Humor

Located right in the centre of the city is an office building carrying the following titles (I bet at least you Swedes find this funny...)
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For those of you who do not speak Swedish (and are not planning to take a language course either) - what the sign says is basically "Unmanned elderly care and shut down health care" and "Send aunt Aina to Ukraine". You may wonder why on earth someone has actually put up such signs (that was exactly my first impression too) so listen and I will explain.

For many years, there's been some lengthy and complicated arguments between different energy companies in the Övertorneå area. One of these companies, named Ekfors, was taking care of quite a large slice of the electricity in Övertorneå and other parts of Norrland. The company ended up rising prices to such a level various municipalities were no longer accepting this which resulted in certain areas being left without any electricity for some periods of time. As you may understand, business didn't go all too well for Ekfors and in the end the company went bancrupt. The CEO of this company, a certain Mr. S. (no, not the one from Markus' booking department - or who knows what mysterious business he might be up to?) was very angry with the company continuing the business with the bankruptcy estate and is still accusing them for "stealing his business" and "forcing him to leave his office". This has been going on ever since April 2011 and therefore Mr. S. decided to put up some offensive signage on the house that used to be his office. Mr. S. has in recent years been in conflict with pretty much all authorities and he has a particularly evil eye to the Social Democrats and thus you can see a reverse swastika with a Socialist rose on the office building together with the other offensive messages.

Fortunately, the situation has now calmed down in Övertorneå, everyone gets the electricity they need - but as I noticed no one passed by the office building without a reaction and when taking the photos I took I heard some encouraging comments like "Yeah, that's not as it should be" or "Isn't it ridiculous?".

But this isn't all - there's more.

Featured on this photo is apparently the guy who took Ekfors' clients, saying "Send aunt Aina to Ukraine":
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And here's a sign with "The costs of state terrorism".
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--End of Swedish humour --


Tuesday 27.12.2011

Good morning, world:
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Rovaniemi, the capital of Lapland, is an international city at the point where the rivers Kemijoki and Ounasjoki meet. It is a university city, the commercial centre for the area and a city of sport and culture. Rovaniemi consists also of dozens of village centres that are spread out along both sides of the Arctic Circle along the banks of two of the largest rivers in Finland - the Rivers Kemijoki and Ounasjoki. Its largest centre is the village of Saarenkylä with a population of about 8,500.

Santa Claus, the most famous resident of the city of Rovaniemi, is not afraid of chilly weather – under his thick, red coat he is snug and very warm, as he commutes from Korvatunturi in Eastern Finnish Lapland to Rovaniemi every day.

That's enough of reasons - let's go there shall we?

During the car ride to Rovaniemi I come up with a good idea - what about paying a visit to the airport? Some time later I get it confirmed that indeed just in time for our arrival at RVN there will be two arriving flights - one from HEL and one from CDG.


Rovaniemi Airport Guide
Made possible thanks to the great concept of FlyingFinn76

Rovaniemi Airport offers you everything you want for your stay. Being the 5th busiest airport in Finland based on passenger numbers, we know how to make you feel special! Our airport is located a very convenient walking distance from the city - only 10 kilometres.

You may reach our airport by road:
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And for those of you in favor of a low-cost transportation you are welcome to take the RAPOFCCRS(TM) - Rovaniemi Airport Official City CentreReindeer Shuttle
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The shuttle runs both in directions of the city and the airport.
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In case you are heading for the airport between the hours of 10 a.m. and 6 p.m., it is easy to pay a visit to the wonderful landscapes of SantaPark before leaving to the airport.
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The airport building features a roof, parking spaces, bus parking spaces in front of the departures area plus (almost) everything else you would expect from an airport!
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As a charter flight is arriving we offer even the most skilled drivers a challenge when trying to find a way out of the parking lot, inbetween the many buses. Those of you not driving a car can study Finnish by reading the texts on the buses.
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As you may see on this photo, the modern and bright airport building is very organized when charter flights to South Europe leave (yes, our airport is very international):
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Did you know that the Arctic Circle actually crosses the end of the runway and photo opportunities are endless! Just ask the captain on your flight to stop at the Northern end of the runway and exit your plane illegaly using one of the emergency exit. Then you can stand on the Arctic Circle. If you are lucky, you might not get arrested. Anyway, a surprise factor is guaranteed!
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We also offer you car rental services:
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XL Airways France offers you a once-weekly (winter-only) service nonstop from Paris CDG to Rovaniemi with modern and comfortable Boeing 737-800 aircraft in a very roomy charter configuration:
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Our airport also educates pilots in knowing how to turn a 737 when the ground is icy:
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Rovaniemi Airport also offers excellent spotting possibilites (yeah, they really do!)
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Our speciality is close-up shots like this one:
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F-HAXL is being taken care off by our attentive ground staff while another visitor just has landed (did we mention our airport is very international?)
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National carrier Finnair operates a wide range of interesting aircraft to our airport
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OH-LXF is wondering what way to choose as our airport is so big (and international!):
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Greetings to our friends at London Heathrow Airport - do you ever see a rush hour like this? Possible only at an international airport:
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Our airport also offers (re)fueling services for your convenience:
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In addition to Finnair and Norwegian Air Shuttle offering multiple daily connections to Helsinki plus multiple international charter connections (available for you when you want to pay an arm and a leg for your flight), our exclusive operator Reindeer Air has its hub at RVN:
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Come fly with us and book your flight already today - a one way ticket from Helsinki with Finnair now priced at only 416 EUR (return trips starting 139 EUR)!

Extra tip: Time your arrival to be in line with the arrival of an XL Airways flight from France and you may meet some young French guides in the arrivals hall. Would you like to impress them, do not hesitate to throw in a couple of phrases in French! (This was done on the spot - recommended specially for Markus!).

Warning : Beware of older French ladies. If you take photos of landing aircraft they are most likely going to take a photo of you taking a photo of those planes. Do not try to take a photo of them afterwards, this will make them disappear very quickly. (Done on the spot!!)

Disclaimer . This tour is in no way related with any airport authorities or airlines. This airport tour was made possibly by the concept invented (but not patented!!!) by FlyingFinn. Would you need an airport, a lounge, an aircraft or something else described in a way like this, do not hesitate to contact us! FlyingFinn's rates are reasonable and very flexible - our rates are perfectly reasonable and as flexible as it will ever get! Order today and we will throw in a free picture of a Boeing 717 in your tour (may be taken at another airport!).

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After having made some money by making this airport tour, oh, sorry, I mean, after having enjoyed some moments in the sun (no, it was freezing cold, the wind was horrible, but yeah, what won't you do to shoot a landing XL Airways 737-800?) I head for the city.

O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Wie treu sind deine Blätter!
Du grünst nicht nur zur Sommerzeit,
Nein, auch im Winter, wenn es schneit.
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Wie treu sind deine Blätter!

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Some carrot cake at a nearby café:
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Would be cool to ride one of those (even though I still prefer Airbuses, Boeings and others):
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Mon beau sapin, roi des forêts
Que j'aime ta verdure
Quand par l'hiver, bois et guérets
Sont dépouillés de leurs attraits
Mon beau sapin, roi des forêts
Tu gardes ta parure

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Thursday 29.12.2011

The evening before this e-mail reminder from Flybe had landed in my e-mail box. What I found interesting was that it was only written in Finnish:


One week after arriving to Lapland I realize it is once again time to leave. Time flies when you're having a good time, so also this time. After saying some goodbyes and promises to return later (well, I already have my return flight booked in April on Blue1/Golden Air) a 10 kilometres car drive to the nearest bus stop (see, it is quite a luxury to be living in a city!) the return journey can start. The car ride takes some time because of the heavy snowfall. Yet the bus arrives bang on time around 16.10 (that’s Northern punctuality for you!). 11 EUR is an alright price for a ride of some 80 kilometres.

The driver is a really nice chap (see, it’s becoming a trend!). He asks about my family and finally decide to go for a smoke. After this the drive continues some 10 minutes late in a relaxed style, perhaps thanks to some young guys in the back of the bus playing reggae music.

Could you call this mood lightning (also note the Christmas decorations):
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There’s only some three passengers in the bus and the driver happily grants my wish of driving to the railway station (I don’t know if this bus does that normally).

A last look at the seats:
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The railway station is full with people as two trains with the exact same routing is leaving some 20 minutes after each other. One train is leaving at 17.41 and my train at 18.05. To add some more confusion, both trains are leaving from the same track. (Thanks, VR!)

I find it a wise decision to head to the bar-restaurant at the station and buy myself a cup of coffee.
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The first train leaves a little late around 17.45 and soon a 15 minutes delay is announced for my train.

Oh dear:
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This train actually continues all the way down to Helsinki, arriving there 6.54 a.m. the next morning. Sorry, but I’m planning to be home in bed by 1 a.m - being quite a lot quicker than this train!

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Titles on the building - I’m at the right railway station (thanks Nils!):
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Inside the station there are some cute paintings on the window:
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My train:
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My compartment:
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Leg room:
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In the end we leave Rovaniemi at 18.30, some 25 minutes late with no reason or apology given. It is however apparent our delay is due to the other train leaving around the same time. En route, we hold another 15 minutes for other traffic to pass by (actually we are waiting for the exactly same train I took on the way up from Oulu!). At this stage I’m already starting to worry about my connection...

Cabin view:
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The train is almost completely empty, which isn’t really a surprise taking into consideration the brilliant idea of VR’s schedule department to have two Helsinki trains leaving at the same time.

The fact it has a light load does not mean it can not have any smaller defects. The automated announcements mentioning the next station aren’t read out so at one of the smaller stations (Tervola, to be precise) a lady suddenly notices from the window that we are calling at her stop and it is funny to see her running out of the compartment. I hope she made it.

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We arrive at Kemi station at 20.05, half an hour late. A familiar building:
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A last look at Markus’ special city:
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I was planning to take a little walk but because of the late arrival of the train (thankyouverymuch, VR!) I just head straight to the taxi station. It is such a shame there is no airport shuttle available in Kemi, as I avoid taking taxis as far as I can, at least here in Finland. If the weather wouldn’t have been as terrible I would even have considered walking the distance to the airport. Anyway the driver is fast and I end up with a fare of “only” 17 EUR. Anyway I arrive around 20.30 for my 21.35 for my flight, so the timing is perfect!

No OLCI available (did you hear that, Flybe?) and only a short wait at the desk. I am planning to ask the young check in agent some questions about my flight (what reg is operating it etc.) but before I have time to open my mouth he already shouts “Next, please!”. Great service here at KEM.

Boarding pass printed on Finnair stock, where’s Flybe?:
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I ask the same question once again - where’s Flybe:
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Nice window paintings (part II).
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The small departures hall:
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Another Christmas tree:
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It would have been much more appropriate to name it “Info desk” instead of just “info”, right?  http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2711.jpg

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Nope, that’s not my ride. But it is carrying a nice reg, as all the KF 717s also have regs that are OH-BLx.
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I also had a look inside the arrivals area. Spot something wrong! (This is a hard one)...
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Things do not get any better in security control where two women are manning the desk. One is in a really bad mood, shouting at the passengers “Enter one at the time! Come on, how can it be so hard?” and “Don’t say you have any liquids inhere!”.
Fine, better follow the instructions:
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As it is my turn I tell her “Hi, here’s my boarding pass, I don’t have any liquids or a laptop in my backpack, and yes, I know what to take off. I fly a lot”. She’s completely taken by surprise, ignores me and shouts at the pax behind me “Don’t put your bag there! It’s too heavy!”.

The other female agent looks at me and says “Good job! And enjoy the flight”.I thank her and proceed to the small airside area.

Hmm, not much variety here, but anyway the inbound is estimated on time (well, almost)
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Indeed the inbound pulls up on time at 21.05 (30 min before departure, a rather long turnaround time for an AT7), it is the expected ATR 72, OH-ATJ, warmly welcomed as it is one of the few FC birds still missing in my log. Boarding is announced soon thereafter.

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OH-ATJ, ATR 72-212A, CN 792, was delivered to Finncomm Airlines on October 23, 2008. On the papers, it was then transferred to Flybe Nordic on October 30, 2011. The plane is 3,5 years old.


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It definitely doesn’t say Flybe:
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A nice welcome from the biz friendly female FA at the door. Cabin crew is two young females (as it always used to be on Finncomm too and I recognize the other FA from some previous FC flights. (See, there’s nothing that’s Flybe here!)


Leg room shot:
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The load is some 60 % which is quite good for a flight leaving at this late hour:
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Boarding is completed at 21.26 and the flight time is announced as 1 hour 25 minutes and the FAs wish us welcome onboard “this Flybe flight operated in co-operation with Finnair”. We leave our parking position two minutes early at 21.33.

It is pitch dark outside and there’s really nothing to see outside as we take off at 21.36.
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After having been only a number of minutes inthe air I already notice some differences compared to my earlier Blue1/Golden Air ride
- the FAs are biz friendly (nothing out of the ordinary)
- it is much noisier here than when sitting in the back
- pretty much all announcements are automated ones (except those ones from the flight deck)

Then comes the mandatory Seat Pocket Check:

Safety card (notice how similar it is to the earlier KF/DC one):
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The BOB menu card:
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Also found in the seat pocket is the Finnair inflight magazine (hello, Flybe, where are you?):
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...and finally, in the end, I even find a Flybe inflight magazine! Excellent!
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The route map is featuring some destinations that are soon going to be shut down (plus Gdansk that didn’t make it on the picture) and some that have already been closed (Seinäjoki)
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The Seinäjoki municipality is now in talks with KF about the route (see - they are everywhere!) and I wouldn’t be surprised to see KF operate the route soon (though with DC metal).

Service on Flybe is BOB, nothing for free (did I tell you I miss Finncomm and their free sandwhiches?). There isn’t very much sales on this flight - mostly alcoholic beverages - but wait, what did I see in the BOB menu if not a muffin?

717FBOBOBMT(TM)
717Flyer’s Big Official Buy On Board Muffin Test
With credits to FlyingFinn and PlaneHunter and their excellent concept!

A 3 EUR muffin plus a 2,50 EUR (rip-off!) water bottle shared with my seat mate.
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2733.jpg

Unwrapped:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2734.jpg

I will judge the different qualities of the muffin with   - smilies. Please refer to the guidelines below.


Mont Mabel’s Milk Chocolate Muffin, 100g, made in Norway

1. Looks      
Looks like a standard muffin. The chocolate pieces add a nice extra. Still it is too rounded and symmetrical to be really appealing.


2. Price :      
3 EUR is an alright price for the muffin but for example easyJet sells better (and bigger!) muffins close to that price.

3. Texture :        
It is moist and has a buttery touch to it. Nice

4. Taste :        
A good plain muffin and the crispy chocolate pieces gives flavour and enriches the muffin.

Overall impression:        
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My Muffin Moment(TM) is interrupted by an announcement from the flight deck. We are flying on a height of 6,3 kilometres (that sounds low!) some 100 kilometres North of Jyväskylä. Thanks to some nice winds arrival to HEL was expected 10 minutes early, with the weather in Helsinki being rainy to cloudy, + 1 C. Our Finnish captain also mentions the remaining flight time as 40 minutes.

A visit to the lavatory, clean and well kept:
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User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7494 times:

I prefer not to know what these stains on the floor are:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2737.jpg

Our captain is on the speakers soon again, announcing the cabin crew to prepare for approach. And indeed they need to prepare themselves. As needed the passengers. Thanks to some hard winds our landing is extremely bumpy, the ATR keeps swinging from one side to another. Some passengers in the front scream occasionally. Definitely not a nice experience - and all of a sudden we fall down on the runway. A horrible approach (still nothing compared to the one I experienced on BT in the Fokker 50, trying to land at RVN in a lightning storm) and a horrible landing. Kudos to the flight deck for a job well done!

The FA wishes us welcome to Helsinki and “hope that you enjoyed this Flybe flight despite the approach we just went through”.

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2742.jpg

We had a pretty optimistic captain as we reach our parking position at 23.08, three minutes late, definitely not ten minutes early as mentioned before.
Finncomm (I mean Flybe) ATR 42-500:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2743.jpg

Standard Finncomm seats and Finncomm logo on the back wall.
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2744.jpg

It is raining cats and dogs outside - but there is still things to be done - of course we need an obligatory closing shot:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2745.jpg

To be sure I got the reg right plus to irritate the bus load of waiting passengers even further I snip a second picture:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2746.jpg

An older lady asks me in the bus “Why did you do that? Take a photo of the plane?”. I just tell her that “Well, I like flying, and isn’t it kind of fantastic that man kind has invented a machine that can fly?”. She seems happy with this and I do not bother to tell her about the ATR 72-500, my aircraft log and all other interesting things I love.

It doesn’t take many minutes for the luggage belt to start moving and indeed - for the first time ever- my bag is the first out! Then it is only a quick walk out to the bus stop where the bus is already waiting. Perfect timing!

After meeting two really nice bus drivers I am hoping to find a third nice chap behind the wheel. As I enter the bus (yes, the one that drives very close past the home of one fellow A.netter) and greet the driver he turns his head away without any form of eye contact. Blimey. Welcome to Southern Finland.

After this the ride continues with a commuter train and I am really surprised to see a very modern and futuristic cabin - first time for me:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2747.jpg

Finally I catch a tram to my house and after some 10 hours of travelling with car, minibus, train, taxi, airplane, bus, commuter train and tram I crash into my bed. End of story.



Conclusions

I had a really great stay in Lapland surrounded by friends and family - in other ways a nice way to spend Christmas. Every now and then I get enough of the stressed and untouched people in the Finnish capital and wonder about moving up to Lapland. On the other hands flight options are much more limited from there, so we'll see.
Anyway I warmly recommend a trip up there - in the winter you can enjoy snow and in summer the lakes and the scenery is enough to give you piece of mind.

Blue1 did a great job once again. Even though they were delayed we were always kept updated about the latest news (announcements from the flight deck, SMS messages from SAS about the estimated time of departure plus proactive service from the FA). No matter if sitting in front of or behind the class divider I've always been warmly welcomed and encountered some great service - this time was no exception.

It is good to see Blue1 has upgraded their Blue1 Premium catering and I definitely think it is worth paying for the Optiontown: you get much more EuroBonus points, a great meal plus a little feel of luxury. And I'm happy to have flown "upfront" on this flight - yet I think the service would (apart from the meal tray) have been just as good in economy too - it's all about the crews.

I really don't have anything to write about Golden Air. Their name was written on the safety card plus they own the ATR I flew on. Yet everything onboard was à la Blue1. Period.

Finally it was nice to add Flybe (Nordic) to my list of flown carriers. I wouldn't hesitate to fly them again as I was taken from KEM to HEL on time on a modern aircraft. Yet I'm going to miss Finncomm - I miss the free sandwhich and the atmosphere. Anyway it will be interesting to follow the future development of BE as they have announced new routes (and closings of some of them). I give them thumbs up for e-mailing me a survey to fill out after the flight (even though the form was missing a "next page"-button so it took quite a lot of creativity to finally send it away).

Coming up next is an escape from the Finnish winter - almost a week on the island of Sicily, of course logging new airlines, airports and aircraft types on the way there! The routing is HEL-FCO-PMO-LIN-ARN-HEL. But you never know what the final routing might be like - several schedule changes have already occured. That's the surprise factor you get when flying Italian (low-cost) carriers.

I would like to wish all A.netters a 2012 full of adventures and many nice flights! If you've come this far, prove it by writing a comment! All feedback is greatly appreciated!

Keep flying high!
717Flyer


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3274 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7368 times:

Hey Rasmus, nice report. Great that you managed to get tan upgrade (and enjoy it so much!).

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
(nope, you're only entitled there when travelling in Premium on European flights)

Surely domestic Finland is still Europe??! Better phrasing would be "non-domestic European flights"

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
-"So, you think you know these things?"
How many passengers do we have today?
-"72".
-"What's the flight number?"
-"KF217".
-"What is the aircraft type?"
-"You could wake me up in the middle of the night and I'd know this is an ATR 72! And I didn't look at the safety card!"
-"What is the maximum number of infants allowed on the ATR 72 according to our company regulations?"
-"What could it be? Five?"
-"Damn, you got it right"!

Ha, I guess they don't get many knowledgable flyers! And well done on getting the last question right! I'd not have had a clue!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The interrogation comes to a quick stop as they notice there is 72 passengers and six infants onboard today, while only five infants are allowed. In the end one mother and her infant leave the aircraft. The crew is deeply sorry and are trying to stuff all kinds of sandwhiches and drinks with them, but the mother wants none.

That IS bad. This is NOT something that should only be found out just before push back by accident.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Therefore I am surprised when she only asks for 3,30 EUR.
"What happened to the 5 EUR change fee", I ask her.
"Nah, just have a Merry Christmas!" is her answer. Nice customer service!

This never would have happened in the UK! An agent here would have delighted in charging you for a seat on the next train...full price of course! Lucky the Finns are a kind people!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The route map is featuring some destinations that are soon going to be shut down (plus Gdansk that didn’t make it on the picture) and some that have already been closed (Seinäjoki)

They're already dropping routes?



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7268 times:

Hi 717Flyer!

Nice tripreport, nice to read about your flights to and from the Northern skies!
Looks like you had a nice couple of ATR flights, I will fly the type for the first time in three weeks.
I also like your comment that the flight would have been nice on the other side of the divider aswell, because the crew was nice. That is so true, I have many experiences of flights on the same airlines when the quality of the flights differs because of the crew.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
As an added bonus the flight was operated by one of the ATR 72s that Golden Air operate for Blue1.

I thought you would go out of your way to catch a 717?  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Pick the most beautiful plane (note; there is only one right answer!)

Now how can I do that when there's no SK MD80 there?  
But I must agree that the KF 717 is stunning aswell. Although I do prefer it in the normal livery(s) rather than in Star Alliance colors.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Some carrot cake at a nearby café:

I love those, was it delicious?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Blue1 did a great job once again. Even though they were delayed we were always kept updated about the latest news (announcements from the flight deck, SMS messages from SAS about the estimated time of departure plus proactive service from the FA). No matter if sitting in front of or behind the class divider I've always been warmly welcomed and encountered some great service - this time was no exception.

Nice to hear you had a good flight with Golden Air/Blue1. I'll probably book a flight or two with KF soon, to try their 717!

Martin


User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7226 times:

Nice trip report! I love reading about these reports in Finland, everyone seems so friendly (if you missed your train in the UK , you'd be lucky to even hear "piss off" let alone get desert, a discount on rebooking and directions to a nice restaurant!)

I might visit Finland one day (maybe next year sometime) it seems like a nice place!

Always like reading your trip reports, especially 717s!


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2476 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7225 times:

Hi 717Flyer,

What a wonderful year’s end treat of yours. Love it!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
One of my meanings with this trip reports is to prove that I'm alive, I'm still flying and I'm just as thrilled about it as before.

Well, 717Flyer, except for being commentators, my trip reporting activity will be put on hold until March next year.   


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
My first flight ever in business class (well, sort of) was about to begin! (And after all, what could have been a better way to celebrate the beginning of my holiday than to do it in a more luxurious way).

I remember you telling about this. Finally, I got to know how you have experienced it.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
2. Why is my travel class listed as Y? Perhaps because I was originally planning to travel in economy but got upgraded?

As long as your upgrade was recognized, I would not bother it too much.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
...until I remember the bright side of life! I'm actually travelling in Blue1 Premium today
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
that I am entitled to use the Fast Track Security Line! (Blue1 Premium Surprise II).

The perks of Premium flying experience.  


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
In such situations I guess one should act cool and seem to be a very routined business traveller, but well, that doesn't suit me at all. I tell the agent this is the first time I'm flying "this way"

I applaud your decision for being “honest” and letting you being inaugurated in the premium world of flying.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Now that's a clever girl!

Are you developing a crush on her?   


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
well, two deadheading FAs in the background are chatting and one crazy A.netter is taking pictures all around the place)

  


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"Don't you dare to take a photo of me! Yeah, and welcome onboard too!" followed by some laughter.
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
A moment later she comes back and tells him that "Our new estimated time of departure is at 12.00, I don't believe we can make that, but a 12.10 departure is realistic so I'd estimate we'll be there at around 13.20. Do you need to make any phone calls? Would you like a pillow or a blanket? Would like any more drinks?". No one says anything but it is quite sure who won this round, and knowing this I get a feeling this is going to be a great flight.
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
One is never to old to play yatzy plus these playing cards are the only thing onboard that have a plane on them, so I guess they fit you well. Even though it isn't a Golden Air ATR pictured there..."
"...yeah, its a SAS B737, but thanks a lot! You've been great!".

What a darling. She definitely deserved the big hugs and gingerbread.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
-"What is the maximum number of infants allowed on the ATR 72 according to our company regulations?"
-"What could it be? Five?"
-"Damn, you got it right"!
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
And well done on getting the last question right! I'd not have had a clue!

Me neither. Bravo, 717Flyer!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
but if you ever see someone with an orange notebook (by any chance with a Blue1 sticker on it) then that's me!

Just wave with your notebook so that I can locate you!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Pick the most beautiful plane (note; there is only one right answer!)

That happens to be located on the left of your picture. 


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"First we have to fly in a small weird plane like this, then they're delayed, they make all kind of weird announcements and now we can't disembark because the FAs are hugging each other. What an airline!".

What an ungrateful bunch of passengers.   


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The ground agent outside the aircraft asks me "What took you so long?" and I reply "Nothing, but if you're nice to the FA in the back she may give you some gingerbread!". She seems happy with my explanation.

Good on you!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Nah, just have a Merry Christmas!" is her answer. Nice customer service!

That is the Christmas spirit.  


Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Waking up to yet another gorgeous morning...

Beautiful!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
RAPOFCCRS(TM) - Rovaniemi Airport Official City CentreReindeer Shuttle
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
717FBOBOBMT(TM)

The copyrighted things are addictive, aren’t they?

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
we will throw in a free picture of a Boeing 717 in your tour (may be taken at another airport!).

  . Just wait for a couple of months, perhaps I can contribute.   


Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
The other female agent looks at me and says “Good job! And enjoy the flight”.I thank her and proceed to the small airside area.

Well, the agent, while looking at other passengers, should have added, “Just look at him! He knows how the things work!”

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 2):
I just tell her that “Well, I like flying, and isn’t it kind of fantastic that man kind has invented a machine that can fly?”.

What a simple, yet effective explanation.   


I wish you a lot of (flying) happiness in inspiring New Year of 2012.

Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7184 times:

Hey, R.,

that´s what I call an really enjoyable Friday evening read. Superb well done and a good reminder to a trip years ago to Santa City and also Kemi, that sounds somewhat well known, but it looks like different in winter.
Great winter pictures also.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

This is what it looks like when 69 passengers try to board an ATR 72 at the same time (well, two deadheading FAs in the background are chatting and one crazy A.netter is taking pictures all around the place)

Always these crazy guys and girls on the apron!.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

Some people can easily be recognized by their hat, but if you ever see someone with an orange notebook (by any chance with a Blue1 sticker on it) then that's me!

I know you the next time.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

Safety card (that I found back home inside the inflight magazine that had slipped inside my backpack because of some weird reason - what a bad safety card!)

What a surprise at home, isn´t it?.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

This one is for Markus:

Thanx a lot.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
so I take a second portion of everything. And the waitress is really cute too (Sorry Markus - no photo).

Well, more Finland for me, maybe.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
no, not the one from Markus' booking department - or who knows what mysterious business he might be up to?

You never know wiht these guys!.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
ouple of phrases in French! (This was done on the spot - recommended specially for Markus!).

I should do it also this way the next time.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

A last look at Markus’ special city:

Really good.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Coming up next is an escape from the Finnish winter - almost a week on the island of Sicily, of course logging new airlines, airports and aircraft types on the way there! The routing is HEL-FCO-PMO-LIN-ARN-HEL. But you never know what the final routing might be like - several schedule changes have already occured. That's the surprise factor you get when flying Italian (low-cost) carriers.

Looking for that story, sounds cool.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

I would like to wish all A.netters a 2012 full of adventures and many nice flights! If you've come this far, prove it by writing a comment! All feedback is greatly appreciated!

The very same to you for 2012.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Capital travel on schedule!.
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1722 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7127 times:
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Hi Rasmus,

Excellent story in your usual witty style. I wonder where you did get all your references, aren't we all just a little bit (plane) crazy? A nice set of flight - no 717 I know - but still quite enjoyable it seems. Still a bit confusing to me: is that FlyBE concept now really working or not? Oh and thanks for the clarification of the Swedish humor, I did not know they were so (sarcastic) funny  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
see, I skipped a ride on the 717 in order to catch Golden Air!

Man, you need to see a doctor asap!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Oh dear, can they never get the class divider right:

Now you say that because you REALLY want to be on the right side - the upper class - of that divider  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The interrogation comes to a quick stop as they notice there is 72 passengers and six infants onboard today, while only five infants are allowed.

In the end one mother and her infant leave the aircraft. The crew is deeply sorry and are trying to stuff all kinds of sandwhiches and drinks with them, but the mother wants none.

Now, they know that beforehand, do they? I don't want to be in the mother's shoes...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Now I will borrow one element from Nils' latest trip report - "Titles on the building, I'm at the right airport!"

Hey, that's copyright protected stuff!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Maybe these could be called futuristic airplane seats? Who knows?

One thing I know for sure: not designed by an interior architect...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Titles on the building - I’m at the right railway station (thanks Nils!)

 

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
where two women are manning the desk

Pun intended?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The route map is featuring some destinations that are soon going to be shut down (plus Gdansk that didn’t make it on the picture) and some that have already been closed (Seinäjoki)

Now already shutting some services down? Things are not going well it seems...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
“hope that you enjoyed this Flybe flight despite the approach we just went through”.

Funny! Was that the actual annoucement?

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineburj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 901 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6901 times:

Wow what an entertaining trip report! It really made me smile and made me happy!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Not many seconds after arriving airside and dreamingly looking at the Scandinavian Lounge (nope, you're only entitled there when travelling in Premium on European flights)

Um...where you in Europe and stayed within Europe on your flights? How are they not European flights?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Safety card (that I found back home inside the inflight magazine that had slipped inside my backpack because of some weird reason - what a bad safety card!)

It just wanted to be liberated....can you blame it?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
What would a Blue1 trip report be without a witty remark, this time featured on the meal tray:

I've never flown Blue1 and probably never will....but this is still my personal favorite part of the Blue1 experience!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
we have gingerbread and glögi (that's our Glühwein in Finland) here in the ticket office...

This doesn't actually MEAN anything to me....what are they? From context I assume some kind of drink?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
--End of Swedish humour --

Wow...I'll never look at my Volvo the same...the Swedes are an interesting people!


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 987 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

Great trip report, thanks for posting.
Sounds like you had a great experience with Blue1/Golden Air. It's always nice to have such a friendly crew, definately makes a difference in a very positive way!


User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6823 times:

Nice to see some replies, thank you guys!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):

Hey Rasmus, nice report. Great that you managed to get tan upgrade (and enjoy it so much!).

Hi Gabriel,
Thanks! Indeed my Premium flight ended up really nice - on the other hand you can fly business class for the first time only once in your life - but yet it is a travelling style I could easily get used to.  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
Surely domestic Finland is still Europe??! Better phrasing would be "non-domestic European flights"

Definitely, my bad!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
Ha, I guess they don't get many knowledgable flyers! And well done on getting the last question right! I'd not have had a clue!

Neither did I, I just thought I had seen around five infants in the bus and thought the flight would be full to the brim.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
That IS bad. This is NOT something that should only be found out just before push back by accident.

Of course they would have found out anyway as they were filling out paperwork, but they told me that the reservation system has because of some weird reason been set to accept the same number of infants on ATR flights as on the Boeing 717 (I think it was eight infants per flight). It sounded like this wasn't the first time they were dealing with the issue.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
This never would have happened in the UK! An agent here would have delighted in charging you for a seat on the next train...full price of course! Lucky the Finns are a kind people!

Well, perhaps it was my natural charm  -)) or then she just felt pity for me after hearing my story about my flight being delayed etc. Otherwise the standard procedure is always to pay a 5 EUR change fee plus the price difference.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
They're already dropping routes?

Indeed, they stopped flying on the HEL-SJY domestic route in December after having operated it for a bit over a month. Some other routes are put to ice in January, HEL-GDN and HEL-TRD for example. It is still possible they will continue to operate these routes in the summer season, so we'll see. But of course it isn't a very impressive start to open and close routes like that.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 4):
Nice tripreport, nice to read about your flights to and from the Northern skies!

Hi Martin,
thanks for your reply!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 4):
Looks like you had a nice couple of ATR flights, I will fly the type for the first time in three weeks.

Nice! On what route and airline are you flying the type? And is it the -72 or -42 series?

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 4):
I thought you would go out of your way to catch a 717?

Indeed, but the opportunity to fly on Golden Air was so tempting. But next time I will of course stick with the beloved 717. I already have a number of flights booked on the type, so don't you worry.  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 4):
Now how can I do that when there's no SK MD80 there?  
But I must agree that the KF 717 is stunning aswell. Although I do prefer it in the normal livery(s) rather than in Star Alliance colors.

I agree, the MD-80 really isn't bad either! And yes, you're right, those B717s painted in the unique "flowing" colors do look even more striking than those in Star Alliance livery. But it is good to see some variation.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 4):
I love those, was it delicious?

Of course. It was tasty, moist and, well, everything you'd expect from such a treat.  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 4):
I'll probably book a flight or two with KF soon, to try their 717!

A wise decision! At the moment they're selling HEL-ARN-HEL return tickets starting at 59 EUR, so perhaps this is your chance to try out this T-tail? Of course hoping for a report then.

Quoting planejamie (Reply 5):
Nice trip report!

Hi planejamie,
thanks for leaving a comment.

Quoting planejamie (Reply 5):
I love reading about these reports in Finland, everyone seems so friendly (if you missed your train in the UK , you'd be lucky to even hear "piss off" let alone get desert, a discount on rebooking and directions to a nice restaurant!)

Yeah, I agree the treatment I received having missed my train was really out of the ordinary! But as you saw, service was less impressive on the return journey with a delay with no information and apologies given.

Quoting planejamie (Reply 5):
I might visit Finland one day (maybe next year sometime) it seems like a nice place!

I'd say you should! If you decide to do so, do let me know. And remember to include Lapland as well, there's lots of beautiful places as well. It's really stunning also in the summertime, if you only know where to go.

Quoting planejamie (Reply 5):
Always like reading your trip reports, especially 717s!

Thanks, nice to hear! And as my username reflects, I also enjoy flying on the 717 a lot.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
What a wonderful year’s end treat of yours. Love it!

Hi Suryo,
thank you so much for your comments! I really appreciate it!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Well, 717Flyer, except for being commentators, my trip reporting activity will be put on hold until March next year

Your comments are always very much appreciated. And needless to say I am very much looking forward to hear about your adventure down under.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
As long as your upgrade was recognized, I would not bother it too much.

Absolutely, I agree with you, I just wanted to point it out as a small detail.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
The perks of Premium flying experience.

That's the red carpet rolled out for you!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
I applaud your decision for being “honest” and letting you being inaugurated in the premium world of flying.

Well, that's what we Finns are after all, very modest people. Or at least I hope so.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Are you developing a crush on her?

Well, I wouldn't go so far, but indeed I can not but feel a bit warm and fuzzy when someone who knows little about aviation walks past plane after plane only to stop at the 717 and point out such a true fact. At least she is a good friend of mine.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
What a darling. She definitely deserved the big hugs and gingerbread.

Definitely! I badly wanted to give her a hug too but I am afraid that would have been considered as going to far.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Me neither. Bravo, 717Flyer!

Well, thank you   

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Just wave with your notebook so that I can locate you!

Is it in BER or where it may be, you can bet I will.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
That happens to be located on the left of your picture.

Bravo, Suryo!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
What an ungrateful bunch of passengers.

Yeah, FAs are also humans - I think it is a great thing to notice how an airline is run by people. Apparently the other passengers didn't appreciate it as much as I did.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
The copyrighted things are addictive, aren’t they?

Yes, I'm sorry, I couldn't resist after having been inspired by some other A.netters.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Just wait for a couple of months, perhaps I can contribute.

You're right! Perhaps we should start co-operating, producing these 717-inspired airport tours together? But then the taxman will notice our terrific business and then, well, yeah.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
I wish you a lot of (flying) happiness in inspiring New Year of 2012.

Thanks once again for leaving a comment, and the very same to you too!  

Regards,
717Flyer

PS. Markus, Nils, burj, Robert, thanks for leaving your comments. I will get back to them soon.


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1459 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6775 times:

Hi Rasmus,

I don't think I've laughed this much reading a TR since P's poetry slam. Well done. Particularly liked your gorgeous photos of northern Finland, beautiful lighting and all that snow!

You really did get an excellent FA on Golden Air, you seem to be good at this! Talk about a memorable flight.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"That guy is definitely not travelling in business. Why is he coming here only to make me tell him he's not allowed here. People can be hard sometimes" but before he has the time to say anything I tell him "Hiya, I'm travelling in Premium today".

That's the way to show him.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
As the bus slows down when getting closer to this plane I hear a lot of interesting comments from my fellow passengers. "That plane is awfully small!" "That plane doesn't look at all like a Blue1 plane should do, does it"? (Yeah, I agree, a 717 looks more beautiful). However I think they go to far as they ask one of the deadheading FAs "This isn't the right plane at all, right?".

Understandable, my Mum got in a right panic when she ended up on a Helvetic F100 and not the planned LX319.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The interrogation comes to a quick stop as they notice there is 72 passengers and six infants onboard today, while only five infants are allowed.

Crikey. Feel a bit sorry for the lady who left, did she volunteer or was she made to go?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
A moment later she comes back and tells him that "Our new estimated time of departure is at 12.00, I don't believe we can make that, but a 12.10 departure is realistic so I'd estimate we'll be there at around 13.20. Do you need to make any phone calls? Would you like a pillow or a blanket? Would like any more drinks?". No one says anything but it is quite sure who won this round, and knowing this I get a feeling this is going to be a great flight.

Great stuff. It's a skill to say it in such a tone of voice that it doesn't sound patronising. Sounds like she has it down to a tee.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Pick the most beautiful plane (note; there is only one right answer!)

AY's old livery!!!!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Safety card (that I found back home inside the inflight magazine that had slipped inside my backpack because of some weird reason - what a bad safety card!)

Weird reason? Maybe the blonde lady on the cover?  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The magazine contained an interesting feature about Blue1 aiming to reach a 100 % punctuality.
Sorry mate, I don't think it will happen, as I am just sitting on a company flight that is delayed:

Oooops.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
This one is for Hannah! It says "Switzerland is the chocolate heart of Europe"

Well, that's true, but judging by the collection of chocolate currently in to be found in the cupboard, I think the chocolate capital of Europe is...actually in my kitchen.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The meal is nicely topped with some Fazer chocolates (yes, Hannah!):

And thankfully there are some Fazer ones in the stash too!!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Before leaving she tells me that "I'll go and hand out some games and toys for the children onboard. I'll also look if I can find something suitable for you".

I think you're taking charm lessons from Markus, don't you always seem to end up with presents on nearly every KF flight you take?!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Merry Christmas:

Hmm, seen that tree somehwere before.....

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
noticing we need to make some grocery shopping and at the same time we decide to make a visit to Sweden. The border is actually only about a one hour drive away.

Like me popping over to Germany. I still get ridiculously excited about doing so, must be to do with growing up on an island.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Rovaniemi Airport Official City CentreReindeer Shuttle

That's my preferred method of transport.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Greetings to our friends at London Heathrow Airport - do you ever see a rush hour like this? Possible only at an international airport:

2 planes at once? Note to self: must do a spotting trip to RVN....

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
our exclusive operator Reindeer Air has its hub at RVN:

Ohhh, quick, must log it, where do I buy tickets?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
a one way ticket from Helsinki with Finnair now priced at only 416 EUR (return trips starting 139 EUR)!

  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
My train:

Seem familiar too!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
It would have been much more appropriate to name it “Info desk” instead of just “info”, right?

By the sounds of it, it's located outside on the ski piste!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
. (See, there’s nothing that’s Flybe here!)

Yes, the safety card!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
717FBOBOBMT(TM)
717Flyer’s Big Official Buy On Board Muffin Test
With credits to FlyingFinn and PlaneHunter and their excellent

Well, it wouldn't be a trip report without a muffin. Hope the test will be making a regular appearance  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
A visit to the lavatory, clean and well kept:

Am amused by all the wet wipes in the basin.

Have a very happy new year with lots of exciting flights & delicious muffins, look forward to reading all about them!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6771 times:

Terve,

That's a nice report about your Christmas up in Lapland. You certainly went into tiny details on every aspect and provided in your usual witty style. A lot of influences from other reports around here can definitely be seen, but there's no shame in copying as the Chinese can tell you  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
With my school ending early in the morning on Thursday December 22nd I decided I wanted to fly away the very same day.

You certainly picked a nice day to fly to OUL and take the train up to Lapland, as you know  . You could've joined me on the early bird Norwegian ride though, no need to attend those school parties as they are a waste of time anyway.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
sive - Norwegian wanted some 140 EUR for a one way ticket (plus their flights aren't anything special to talk about). Another idea was to use some expiring Finnair Plus points to buy an award ticket on one of the HEL-RVN flights operated by the Boeing 757 (something sure out of the ordinary and which was also covered here on A.net some time ago).

Hmm, that sounds like something I should try one day!

BTW speaking of insane DY fares I was checking HEL-TFS a couple of days in advance and they quoted a price of over 600 EUR on their website!!! Now that is sick, if somebody pays that kind of money I think they should go to get a check up from the neck up...! Heck I could fly twice to Colombia with that money and still have enough for tens of pints (in Colombia, not in Finland)!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
There wasn't any award tickets available anymore as I wanted to book so what I looked up next was good old Blue1.

Yeah, my initial plan as to take the 757 both ways to RVN but no award availability on the outbound flight at all.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
! I submitted an upgrade request to Blue1 Premium via Optiontown - and whoa - some weeks before departure the upgrade cleared.

So how much did you pay for the upgrade? Sadly he upgrade price used to be 25 EUR for domestic segments but went up to 39 EUR shortly after they introduced the meals in domestic Premium.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
(I know that someone else from this forum has also been sitting in that seat!).

Oh yes, at least two flights in that very same seat  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
2. Why is my travel class listed as Y? Perhaps because I was originally planning to travel in economy but got upgraded?
3. Why is the travel class named"Economy Extra". They should have thought of changing it to "Blue1 Premium" also on the boarding passes.

Because that's the class your upgrade moved you to. With KF booking classes Y, S and B are Premium. J and I are business class, but of course that means you still sit in Premium. Since you upgraded from el cheapo eco to Premium, it says "Y".

With mama SAS Y, S and B are Economy Extra, hence the writing on the SAS boarding pass.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
One of the major changes is that the destination of a flight is now written much larger than before

I haven't noticed this. Looks a bit too large to me, but I'll have to see for myself. Your picture is quite blurry (no image stabilization feature in your camera?).

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Another thing I notice is a truck of Turkish ground handling company Havas.

Wow, they have been really fast relabeling them.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
As I step onboard the first thing I hear from the female FA isn't "Hi" or "Welcome onboard" but "Don't you dare to take a photo of me! Yeah, and welcome onboard too!" followed by some laughter.

I've had something similar, I think those were with Lufthansa FAs.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The interrogation comes to a quick stop as they notice there is 72 passengers and six infants onboard today, while only five infants are allowed.
In the end one mother and her infant leave the aircraft. The crew is deeply sorry and are trying to stuff all kinds of sandwhiches and drinks with them, but the mother wants none.

Really? That is very bad and worrying. The check in (or even better, reservation) system should've noticed this and prevented it from happening. A major flaw in the system and processes if you ask me!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Pre-departure drinks are offered, I choose orange juice:

Really 2? Now this is impressive, heck even AY quite randomly offers predeparture drinks in business class. Of course my beloved BT never fails to do so  . Yeah, needless to say it hasn't ever happened to me in KF Premium or SAS Economy Extra or Business...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yet another announcement is done by the FA explaining that "we at Blue1 (hmm, what about Golden Air?)

Well the cabin crew is employed by KF, only the pilots work for DC and of course they own (the lease for) the plane and the AOC the flight is operated under.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Pick the most beautiful plane (note; there is only one right answer!)

Oh yes, that Air Finland 757 is a beauty! Brings back fond memories of my excellent flight on their Premium class last May.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
But this Premium ad is good, one of many things it did is that it remained me I will get 200 % EuroBonus points for my flight (or actually more thanks to the PointBooster campaign!)

Sorry to be bearer of the bad news, but this will change, next night (i.e. the beginning of 2012) I think, to the usual 150% earning. Still very good as it is 6 times the el cheapo economy mileage, but not that generous anymore.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Not expecting anything else apart from a sandwhich I am really surprised as our wonderful FA soon approaches us with this meal tray - Blue1 has apparently upgraded their Premium catering lately!

Yes, I noticed this on my multiple OUL runs this autumn. Actually I first encountered it flying the very same flight to OUL as you, on the very same plane SE-MDI, in the very same seat 18A  

This is now the same catering they have for flights to ARN, OSL and CPH.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The meal tray also came with a small bottle of Italian red wine.

They didn't remove it? Back in the days when AY still served a) free booze, b) (hot) meals in economy, the trays came with either a red of wine bottle depending on the dish (i.e. white for chicken & fish, red for other foods) and the FAs were always very careful to remove the bottle from those trays handed to anybody looking like a minor.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
What would a Blue1 trip report be without a witty remark, this time featured on the meal tray:

Ahh, that game on the C64 was a fun one! They just don't make politically incorrect games like that anymore.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"First we have to fly in a small weird plane like this, then they're delayed, they make all kind of weird announcements and now we can't disembark because the FAs are hugging each other. What an airline!".

Wow, that's quite weird.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
He mumbles something you really can't make clear of, so she says "Well, soon you are no more! Have a gingerbread". In the end he even cracks a smile and wishes her a Merry Christmas. "See I'm good at bribing people", she points out to me.

This FA sounds like an absolute gem! I'm pretty sure this was the same one I flew one of the best flights this year with, KTT-VAA back in March (or was it late February?). Coincidentally that also was a) on SE-MDI, b) in Premium, c) seated on 18A  . She was great, funny and you could tell she really enjoyed her job and went that extra mile! There was a young male FA as well, he was quite reserved in the best Finnish tradition, could've been the same one as on your flight too...

She had dark hair and glasses, right?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Bye, and thanks for a great flight:

You were allowed to walk to the terminal?! On my flight to OUL (and also a later flight with the Atlantic Airways Avro) they insisted on bussing us the 100 meters or so. Quite ridiculous as it wasn't even raining!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Sinfully delicious food - Part II

Ahh, lanttulaatikkoa! Funny despite it being a week from Christmas and by Boxing day I was absolutely fed up with all kinds of pork products and casseroles that picture makes me to crave for some good, hearty Finnish Christmas food again!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Waking up to yet another gorgeous morning...

Some nice pictures in there! Gotta love those lucid, clear mornings when everything's frozen.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
And here's a sign with "The costs of state terrorism".

Well, being a die hard free market advocate and one who wholeheartedly embraces the "small state" concept I have to say that I definitely agree with this! But that whole story sounds a bit ridiculous, though.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Made possible thanks to the great concept of FlyingFinn76

Hmm, not sure what to think of this. But yeah, I guess imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

You still need to practice your act a bit, though. It takes a few gos to get it right (and then you can go and work for an marketing ad).

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,

Argh. That song will never be the same to me after I heard the South Park version of it, performed by none other than a famous dictator from Austria with short black mustache...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Would be cool to ride one of those (even though I still prefer Airbuses, Boeings and others):

Well, if you manage to get my namesake with the red nose there you could log it as a flight operated by Reindeer Airlines!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The evening before this e-mail reminder from Flybe had landed in my e-mail box. What I found interesting was that it was only written in Finnish:

Who else than a Finn would go to Kemi?! Well somebody from Baden-Württenberg, but they are crazy anyway.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
At this stage I’m already starting to worry about my connection...

Well, you could've just sat there all the way to Helsinki!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
the next station aren’t read out so at one of the smaller stations (Tervola, to be precise) a lady

Ahh, Tervola. Used to have some relatives lived there. I remember one brutally cold January morning there when we had to get up at 4.00, get driven to KEM airport in time for the 5.50 FC ERJ-145 flight to HEL. There I caught a Finnair Embraer to MAN, finally connecting to a BA 757 down to LHR, Heathrow Express to Paddington and finally a cab to the office. That was probably my longest commute I've ever done...

My colleagues went on the 8.00 AY flight direct to Heathrow but I was worried about my connection time from the FC flight so had to do the detour (the MAN flight left around 8.30 I think). Not that I minded it of course.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
It is such a shame there is no airport shuttle available in Kemi, as I avoid taking taxis as far as I can, at least here in Finland.

Tell me about it. This is the case in many airports in Finland and also the small ones in Sweden I seem to frequent quite a lot nowadays.

The annoying thing is that the Kemi-Oulu/Tornio (before the split) track passes within 500 meters of the KEM terminal... In old times you could just ask the conductor if they could drop you off there and usually that worked fine. My grandmother was an expert in it, as her house was very close to a crossing on a track and she was always dropped off there instead of the station a few kilometers further. Then again she used to work for VR and knew all the conductors anyway... But the modern times just don't work like that any more.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I also had a look inside the arrivals area. Spot something wrong! (This is a hard one)...

Yeah, Kuusamo is not Lapland, not by a long shot. Then again many people would say that Kemi isn't Lapland either.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
She’s completely taken by surprise, ignores me and shouts at the pax behind me “Don’t put your bag there! It’s too heavy!”.

Way to go.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
- it is much noisier here than when sitting in the back

Yes, exactly half of the reasons why Premium on the ATR is in the back.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
- pretty much all announcements are automated ones (except those ones from the flight deck)

I find the cheesy accent of those recorded ones really hilarious, especially the "Rikssvenska" they speak.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
With credits to FlyingFinn and PlaneHunter and their excellent concept!

Hmm, you are getting good at using other people's ideas, aren't you? I must warn you, my license fees are rather stiff!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
A visit to the lavatory, clean and well kept:

And no water, apparently - judging from those wetwipes in the basin. That was a common annoyance on the KF Avros and also during the winter time on the 717s when the water pipes and tanks freeze solid. Well at least they did on many occasions when I was onboard last winter, this winter the water might boil and vaporize instead, thanks to these subtropical temperatures we are seeing here...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
As I enter the bus (yes, the one that drives very close past the home of one fellow A.netter)

Yes, as a matter of fact you passed within 25 meters of this kitchen table when I'm sitting now typing this on my laptop.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
After this the ride continues with a commuter train and I am really surprised to see a very modern and futuristic cabin - first time for me:

SM5 - those are rather nice! Especially considering they run some software written by my company  . Spent some nights at the Ilmala depot aboard those, those were interesting.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I had a really great stay in Lapland surrounded by friends and family - in other ways a nice way to spend Christmas. Every now and then I get enough of the stressed and untouched people in the Finnish capital and wonder about moving up to Lapland.

This is true for most of Finland outside the Capital Region. Well not for Turku, but the other places.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
in summer the lakes and the scenery is enough to give you piece of mind.

And the mosquitoes aka "The REAL Finnish Air Force" are enough to drive you insane!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I really don't have anything to write about Golden Air. Their name was written on the safety card plus they own the ATR I flew on. Yet everything onboard was à la Blue1. Period.

Yes, as I mentioned earlier the ATRs based at HEL have all Finnish, Blue1 cabin crew. The Saabs doing the TKU/VAA/TMP-ARN and TMP-CPH routes are all based at ARN and thus have Swedish crews.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Still a bit confusing to me: is that FlyBE concept now really working or not?

Not sure what you mean here? They operate mostly on routes with no competition, so free service of BOB doesn't really matter to the passengers as they usually have no real alternative options. At least as far as I've understood the FlyBE concept is this: "Fly regional routes nobody else wants to touch with a ten feet pole and nickel and dime for everything and hope you make money. If you can gouge additional support out of the local communities, take the money and run (or fly)!"

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Now already shutting some services down? Things are not going well it seems...

Well, many of these regional Finnish routes are sure ways to loose money. They inherited the SJY route from FC and of course want to make money with it, so a bit of saber clashing like this and then the local communities will pony up some money to ensure the traffic continues, maybe with BE, maybe with KF(DC), maybe with Ryanair, who knows. The same thing happened with JYV, and OV is getting around 150K EUR for each of their new routes between TLL and KOK, JYV, KAJ and JOE.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3):
Surely domestic Finland is still Europe??! Better phrasing would be "non-domestic European flights"

No, that's not true either. See CPH, OSL and ARN do not qualify either. So it is actually "Europe minus the Nordics".


User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2476 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6767 times:

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
And needless to say I am very much looking forward to hear about your adventure down under.  

Thank you for your support.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
but I am afraid that would have been considered as going to far.  

How about asking beforehand, "Can I give you a hug?"

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
I think the chocolate capital of Europe is...actually in my kitchen.

   I believe you, Hannah.  



Friends forever
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6715 times:

Hi again.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
Nice! On what route and airline are you flying the type? And is it the -72 or -42 series?

BE/AY TLL-HEL. So a very short flight. The seatmap says it's a -42, but we'll see once I get to the gate.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
And yes, you're right, those B717s painted in the unique "flowing" colors do look even more striking than those in Star Alliance livery. But it is good to see some variation.

  

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 11):
At the moment they're selling HEL-ARN-HEL return tickets starting at 59 EUR, so perhaps this is your chance to try out this T-tail? Of course hoping for a report then.

I have some different ideas as it is now, but we'll see. And ofcourse I will cover it with a report, what other choices are there!?  

Martin


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1826 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6706 times:

Hi 717Flyer

Thanks for a very interesting and highly entertaining report. Funnily enough, I did a trip between Christmas and New Year to Oulu to sample the B. 717. My flight from Helsinki to Oulu was also with a Swedish ATR72 and I was also on 18A.

Thanks for posting in any case!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6612 times:

Hi 717Flyer,

very entertaining report with many great pictures, well done!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
As the bus slows down when getting closer to this plane I hear a lot of interesting comments from my fellow passengers. "That plane is awfully small!"

Yeah, it's amazing how certain people react when they see a prop plane.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

Oh dear, can they never get the class divider right:

These dividers look so cheap! Like supermarket signs.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The roast beef was juicy and delicious and the spicy cucumber salad made the meal a perfect combination. Together with the fresh vegetables the meal was really light and enjoyable -absolutely one of the best airplane meals I've had

That looks good indeed!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
still nothing beats Turkish Airlines' economy class offerings - it's just fantastic!). But let's save that story for another occasion, shall we?

I'll go into detail about TK's catering in my next report.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Wie treu sind deine Blätter!
Du grünst nicht nur zur Sommerzeit,
Nein, auch im Winter, wenn es schneit.
O Tannenbaum, o Tannenbaum,
Wie treu sind deine Blätter!

  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
717FBOBOBMT(TM)
717Flyer’s Big Official Buy On Board Muffin Test
With credits to FlyingFinn and PlaneHunter and their excellent concept!

Very nice!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I will judge the different qualities of the muffin with - smilies. Please refer to the guidelines below.

Cool stuff!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Coming up next is an escape from the Finnish winter - almost a week on the island of Sicily, of course logging new airlines, airports and aircraft types on the way there! The routing is HEL-FCO-PMO-LIN-ARN-HEL.

Sounds interesting! Have a nice trip.



PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6599 times:

Hi Rasmus

Nice trip report, enjoyed reading your report! Flying the ATR has been a pleasure.
Nice seeing some trains as well, the finnish trains sure look nice and comfortable.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6520 times:

Really nice to read your comments, thank you guys (and gals!).

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
that´s what I call an really enjoyable Friday evening read. Superb well done and a good reminder to a trip years ago to Santa City and also Kemi, that sounds somewhat well known, but it looks like different in winter.
Great winter pictures also.

Hi Markus,
thank you so much for your kind words!  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
Always these crazy guys and girls on the apron!.

Exactly, some of them with cameras, others just crazy in order to get inside the aircraft. That's a less nice aspect with bus boarding, but the photo opportunities are of course much better this way.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
I know you the next time.

Definitely, so I'll better take my orange notebook with me to BER in June!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
What a surprise at home, isn´t it?.

Yeah, and I've had quite many such surprises lately. And I can't complain, can I?  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Excellent story in your usual witty style.

Hi Nils,
thank you so much for your comments!  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
I wonder where you did get all your references, aren't we all just a little bit (plane) crazy?

Everyone is plane crazy, sure, and I have my sources.  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Still a bit confusing to me: is that FlyBE concept now really working or not? Oh and thanks for the clarification of the Swedish humor, I did not know they were so (sarcastic) funny

On the paper, the Flybe concept is working, yes, but from the passenger's point of view it is not. Sure, flight numbers changed from FC to BE on October 30 but most planes are still painted in the old Finncomm livery. The crews are the same that used to work for FC, planes are the same, seats are the same - only the inflight service has changed to BOB.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Man, you need to see a doctor asap!

Don't worry, I booked a flight on the 717 some four minutes ago. (On the other hand the return is on the Golden Air ATR, so yes, perhaps I really should see a doctor?)  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Now, they know that beforehand, do they? I don't want to be in the mother's shoes...

Yeah, as I replied to Gabriel it is some kind of fault in the KF booking engine as they accept the same amount of infants as the maximum on the B717. They are now working hard to fix it.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Hey, that's copyright protected stuff!

Sorry. I'll buy you a muffin (or two) when we meet.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Now already shutting some services down? Things are not going well it seems...

Yeah, load factors have been quite low on some routes and as I mentioned in reply to Gabriel (see - again!) some routes are put to ice in January. Still unclear if they will continue these routes - tickets are on sale for May onwards but other sources say the routes are put to a definitive end.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Funny! Was that the actual annoucement?

Of course it was. No one seemed to react at the announcement, most likely the other passengers weren't even listening. Unfortunately.

Quoting burj (Reply 9):
Wow what an entertaining trip report! It really made me smile and made me happy!

Hi burj,
nice to hear you enjoyed my report - always nice to put a smile on someone's face.  
Quoting burj (Reply 9):
Um...where you in Europe and stayed within Europe on your flights? How are they not European flights?

My bad, what I wanted to say was that lounge access is not granted for domestic or Scandinavian flights - but on flights to other parts of Europe, you are admitted to the lounge.

Quoting burj (Reply 9):
It just wanted to be liberated....can you blame it?

Of course not, it isn't an easy job being a safety card.  
Quoting burj (Reply 9):
I've never flown Blue1 and probably never will....but this is still my personal favorite part of the Blue1 experience!

Yeah, it is all about the details, isn't it?

Quoting burj (Reply 9):
This doesn't actually MEAN anything to me....what are they? From context I assume some kind of drink?

Our glögi is a drink that is popular here during wintertime. It's served warm and made of spices such as cardamom and ginger. You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_...ne#Nordic_Gl.C3.B8gg_or_Gl.C3.B6gg

Quoting burj (Reply 9):
Wow...I'll never look at my Volvo the same...the Swedes are an interesting people!

Yeah, but don't draw any too quick conclusions. Perhaps this was just one crazy Swede? I'd say we Finns are more crazier than our Swedish neighbors.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 10):
Great trip report, thanks for posting.

Hi Robert,
thanks for your feedback.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 10):
Sounds like you had a great experience with Blue1/Golden Air. It's always nice to have such a friendly crew, definately makes a difference in a very positive way!

Absolutely my way of thinking too.



Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
I don't think I've laughed this much reading a TR since P's poetry slam

Hi Hannah,
Thank you so much for your kind words, you're making me blush.  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Well done. Particularly liked your gorgeous photos of northern Finland, beautiful lighting and all that snow!

Thanks! Remember you're welcome to Lapland anytime - an excellent chance to combine the 717 with Northern lights

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
You really did get an excellent FA on Golden Air, you seem to be good at this

Remember that the flight attendants are employed by Blue1 - it is the plane and the cockpit crew that is from Golden Air. So perhaps KF just has a tendency to employ lovely FAs?  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Understandable, my Mum got in a right panic when she ended up on a Helvetic F100 and not the planned LX319.

That's something I understand - on the other hand my flight was scheduled to be operated by the Golden Air ATR right from the beginning and it was clearly mentioned on the ticket as well. Plus the DC birds have been around flying for KF for over a year now so it shouldn't be an all too big surprise.
Still they could have been happy - pulling up next to a BT Fokker 50 would have been even nastier. Not that I wouldn't like those birds, but a one-year-old ATR is a quite nice ride anyway.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Crikey. Feel a bit sorry for the lady who left, did she volunteer or was she made to go?

The guy in the yellow west on my picture entered the aircraft with a number of luggage receipts in his hand so I think they were prepared to go through all those travelling with an infant until someone was ready to volunteer. On the other hand the lady didn't seem happy at all, as the nice FA was trying to stuff water bottles and sandwiches with her she just replied "I wanted a plane ride, not a sandwich!"...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Great stuff. It's a skill to say it in such a tone of voice that it doesn't sound patronising. Sounds like she has it down to a tee.

Yeah, the FA somehow reminded me of my first kindergarten teacher, explaining everything in such a calm and nice manner.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
AY's old livery!!!!

Dear Hannah, could you please reconsider?  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Weird reason? Maybe the blonde lady on the cover?  

A look at my collection reveals a surprising fact:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2749.jpg

Not many magazines in sight with a man on the cover. Anyway I usually nick the inflight magazine a) because it is easy to hide the safety card inside and nick it at the same time b) it is a nice collector's item and now that you mention it there is some nice looking ladies on the covers - those guys (and gals) at KF sure know what they are doing!

(Thanks, Hannah, now my room is a mess with in flight magazines all over the place...)  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Well, that's true, but judging by the collection of chocolate currently in to be found in the cupboard, I think the chocolate capital of Europe is...actually in my kitchen.

Sounds good! Can I come? I can book a last minute ticket on the midday KF 717 to ZRH tomorrow.  

My kitchen is the gingerbread capital of Europe, here's some very cute ones that I am having a tough job not eating immediately - of course bought in Lapland:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_2748.jpg

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
I think you're taking charm lessons from Markus, don't you always seem to end up with presents on nearly every KF flight you take?!

Indeed, it is about time for a change. Next time I'll buy some presents for the crew on my KF flight!  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
That's my preferred method of transport.

Definitely, that even wins over the 717!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
2 planes at once? Note to self: must do a spotting trip to RVN....

...and drop me a PM before doing so  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Ohhh, quick, must log it, where do I buy tickets?

Oh no, you got it all wrong - Reindeer Air offers ticketless travel. Frequencies and flights are added according to weather conditions and demand. It's free seating also. Further inquiries can be sent to Santa Claus.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Seem familiar too!

Yeah, it was only the day before my departure I learned a certain Flying Finn was leaving on quite a similar trip the same day. And almost all day I followed in his footprints. Well, better luck next time?

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Well, it wouldn't be a trip report without a muffin. Hope the test will be making a regular appearance

Thanks for the encouraging comment - I hope various airline representatives will browse this thread in pity and that they all will add huge and delicious muffins to their BOB sortiments. If they will, only the sky is the limit, I can patent my 717FBOBOBMT(TM) and make a terrific business. You're also welcome to join the business.  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Have a very happy new year with lots of exciting flights & delicious muffins, look forward to reading all about them!

Once again thanks for all your comments Hannah, may 2012 be a great year flying-, food- and also otherwise and looking forward to your upcoming reports!  

Regards,
717Flyer

PS. I am overwhelmed by the amount of replies - thank you so much! I will get back to P., Suryo, Martin, William, PH and Marc as soon as I can.  


User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6441 times:

Here comes more replies, thank you!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
That's a nice report about your Christmas up in Lapland. You certainly went into tiny details on every aspect and provided in your usual witty style. A lot of influences from other reports around here can definitely be seen, but there's no shame in copying as the Chinese can tell you

Hi P,
thank you for your feedback - I really appreciate it! Borrowing some elements from other trip reports is my way of showing I enjoy their work. And I didn't copy too much without giving credits, right?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
You certainly picked a nice day to fly to OUL and take the train up to Lapland, as you know  . You could've joined me on the early bird Norwegian ride though, no need to attend those school parties as they are a waste of time anyway.

I know you won't learn specially much at school parties but there was some performances I've been working quite a lot with the last year so it was nice to see how they turned out. Plus otherwise I wouldn't have scored the DC ATR (or I would have logged at latest in April, but that wait sounded too long!).
Anyway I agree a shared flight would have been really nice, but oh well, something for next time, right?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
BTW speaking of insane DY fares I was checking HEL-TFS a couple of days in advance and they quoted a price of over 600 EUR on their website!!! Now that is sick, if somebody pays that kind of money I think they should go to get a check up from the neck up...! Heck I could fly twice to Colombia with that money and still have enough for tens of pints (in Colombia, not in Finland)!

See, that is why they are able to offer 25 EUR fares for those that are quick to grab them.

BTW, I've been quite interested in the new HEL-CFU (and sure, HEL-RHO isn't bad either) that DY is offering, despite being in the middle of the night Corfu is such a wonderful island plus you can make some interesting choices on the way back. They've been adjusting their pricing too - at first 130 EUR was the cheapest one way fare online - now you can grab a seat starting at 69 EUR which is of course much more acceptable.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
So how much did you pay for the upgrade? Sadly he upgrade price used to be 25 EUR for domestic segments but went up to 39 EUR shortly after they introduced the meals in domestic Premium.

Well, I submitted the upgrade request quite early and I do not remember paying 39 EUR for it (can't promise anything though) and my financial department is quite strict with my budget.
Anyway it is such a shame that they will rise the price - 39 EUR is quite a bit of money.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Because that's the class your upgrade moved you to. With KF booking classes Y, S and B are Premium. J and I are business class, but of course that means you still sit in Premium. Since you upgraded from el cheapo eco to Premium, it says "Y"

Thank you for this information - I feel enlightened.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
I haven't noticed this. Looks a bit too large to me, but I'll have to see for myself. Your picture is quite blurry (no image stabilization feature in your camera?).

Quite weird thinking you flew that same morning without noticing anything (or perhaps you were half-asleep)?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Really? That is very bad and worrying. The check in (or even better, reservation) system should've noticed this and prevented it from happening. A major flaw in the system and processes if you ask me!

Indeed a flaw in the system, as the FA pointed out to me (see my reply to Gabriel).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Really 2? Now this is impressive, heck even AY quite randomly offers predeparture drinks in business class. Of course my beloved BT never fails to do so  . Yeah, needless to say it hasn't ever happened to me in KF Premium or SAS Economy Extra or Business...

Believe it or not - this was the case on my flight (don't know if it was the FA's own idea though).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Ahh, that game on the C64 was a fun one! They just don't make politically incorrect games like that anymore.

C64? Game? What? Could you enlighten me on this matter, please?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
This FA sounds like an absolute gem! I'm pretty sure this was the same one I flew one of the best flights this year with, KTT-VAA back in March (or was it late February?). Coincidentally that also was a) on SE-MDI, b) in Premium, c) seated on 18A  . She was great, funny and you could tell she really enjoyed her job and went that extra mile! There was a young male FA as well, he was quite reserved in the best Finnish tradition, could've been the same one as on your flight too...

She had dark hair and glasses, right?

Dark hair? Check. Glasses? Check.
Quite funny if both of us actually flew our best flight of 2011 in the same plane, sitting in the same seat, served by the same crew. We're living in a small world after all.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Quite ridiculous as it wasn't even raining!

Sounds really weird! Also when flying to OUL in July on the 717 (a great flight BTW) we got to walk to the terminal. On my other flights there we've always docked to a jet way.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Hmm, not sure what to think of this. But yeah, I guess imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
They didn't remove it? Back in the days when AY still served a) free booze, b) (hot) meals in economy, the trays came with either a red of wine bottle depending on the dish (i.e. white for chicken & fish, red for other foods) and the FAs were always very careful to remove the bottle from those trays handed to anybody looking like a minor.

Slow down, Mister! Who has told you I'm a minor or one that looks like a minor?

I mentioned the red wine bottle just so that those interested in the KF Premium concept could get a view of what is included in the meal - indeed I got no wine bottle. As the nice FA was about to give the meal tray she looked at me and said something like "Hmm, I don't think I should be serving wine to you" so I said something like "Yeah, you're perfectly right, I don't need any wine to make this ATR look nice". End of story.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
You still need to practice your act a bit, though. It takes a few gos to get it right (and then you can go and work for an marketing ad).

Come on, this was my first airport tour ever! I'm still learning!
And if you feel like I stole some copyrighted material - fine - I'll buy you a muffin sometime (sorry, you have to wait some time before I can buy a pint of beer).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Well, you could've just sat there all the way to Helsinki!

There is many things I COULD do in this world. But sitting or sleeping in a train for some 12 hours is not my piece of cake.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
The annoying thing is that the Kemi-Oulu/Tornio (before the split) track passes within 500 meters of the KEM terminal... In old times you could just ask the conductor if they could drop you off there and usually that worked fine. My grandmother was an expert in it, as her house was very close to a crossing on a track and she was always dropped off there instead of the station a few kilometers further. Then again she used to work for VR and knew all the conductors anyway... But the modern times just don't work like that any more.

Hah, really? Indeed it was quite disturbing to look out of the window as we were getting close to Kemi and pass by the Finavia sign saying "welcome to Kemi airport".

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Yeah, Kuusamo is not Lapland, not by a long shot.

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
Hmm, you are getting good at using other people's ideas, aren't you? I must warn you, my license fees are rather stiff!

Sorry - but there is some things one needs to do in order to attract some readers!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 13):
And the mosquitoes aka "The REAL Finnish Air Force" are enough to drive you insane!

Because of some weird reason those little fellow usually leave me untouched - perhaps because I was born up there?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 14):
How about asking beforehand, "Can I give you a hug?"

Hi again Suryo,
You are perfectly right, I should have done that.  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 15):
BE/AY TLL-HEL. So a very short flight. The seatmap says it's a -42, but we'll see once I get to the gate.

Hi again Martin,
Sounds good! What is your travel plan? .

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 15):
I have some different ideas as it is now, but we'll see. And ofcourse I will cover it with a report, what other choices are there!?

Good to hear.  
Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 16):
Thanks for a very interesting and highly entertaining report.

Hi William,
thank you for your comments.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 16):
Funnily enough, I did a trip between Christmas and New Year to Oulu to sample the B. 717

Well, what a good choice!  
Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 16):
My flight from Helsinki to Oulu was also with a Swedish ATR72 and I was also on 18A.

Good you flew on SE-MDH, the other Golden Air ATR flying for Blue1 - otherwise it would have started to get a bit scary.. Anyway I know an A.netter that has been sitting in 18A on both SE-MDH and SE-MDI. Maybe he can present himself?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
very entertaining report with many great pictures, well done!

Hi PH,
thanks a lot for your feedback!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
These dividers look so cheap! Like supermarket signs.

I understand. On the other hand they wouldn't bother me at all if they could get them right. Of course it is quite alright if the divider is set between the right rows, but flying in Premium for the first time it was a bit irritating to see the sign saying I would be travelling in economy.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
I'll go into detail about TK's catering in my next report.

Turkish Airlines is definitely their own chapter and my first airline flown that had menus in economy class!
Looking forward to your report on them.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Cool stuff!

Well, thank you! Hopefully the 717FBOBOBMT(TM) will make an appearance also in the future. That is of course depending on the BOB selections available on various airlines.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Sounds interesting! Have a nice trip.

Thanks! I am hoping it will be a nice trip as the planning stage has been quite stressful with multiple changes made in my schedules, so let's hope it works out in the end.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 18):
Nice trip report, enjoyed reading your report!

Hi Marc,
thanks for your comments.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 18):
Nice seeing some trains as well, the finnish trains sure look nice and comfortable.

Yeah, the Finnish trains are quite comfortable - specially the old compartments offer very generous legroom as I noticed on the return journey.

Regards,
717Flyer


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1459 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6403 times:

Hi Rasmus,

Once in my life I do intend to visit Lapland in the winter, I'm just too much of a wimp when it comes to the cold....

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 19):
Remember that the flight attendants are employed by Blue1 - it is the plane and the cockpit crew that is from Golden Air. So perhaps KF just has a tendency to employ lovely FAs?

Sorry, my mistake. I think you're right about the tendency though.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 19):
Dear Hannah, could you please reconsider?

Ermm, ok, erm, nope! Still AY for me  
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 19):
Not many magazines in sight with a man on the cover. Anyway I usually nick the inflight magazine a) because it is easy to hide the safety card inside and nick it at the same time b) it is a nice collector's item and now that you mention it there is some nice looking ladies on the covers - those guys (and gals) at KF sure know what they are doing!
(Thanks, Hannah, now my room is a mess with in flight magazines all over the place...)

As the saying goes, the proof is in the muffin, er, sorry, pudding. Seriously though, you'd better not book any flights on LX then, I don't think I've ever seen a model on the cover on their inflight mag, it's always a destination. (Hope you cleared the mess up!)

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 19):
Sounds good! Can I come? I can book a last minute ticket on the midday KF 717 to ZRH tomorrow.
My kitchen is the gingerbread capital of Europe, here's some very cute ones that I am having a tough job not eating immediately - of course bought in Lapland:

There's more than enough chocolate to go round, so you're welcome! The gingerbread looks nice, although I'm intrigued by the shape, is that top one a pig? Surely a reindeer would be more appropiate.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 19):
Oh no, you got it all wrong - Reindeer Air offers ticketless travel. Frequencies and flights are added according to weather conditions and demand. It's free seating also. Further inquiries can be sent to Santa Claus

Damn, I knew there'd be a catch somewhere. That Santa Claus guy never answers my letters.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 19):
Thanks for the encouraging comment - I hope various airline representatives will browse this thread in pity and that they all will add huge and delicious muffins to their BOB sortiments. If they will, only the sky is the limit, I can patent my 717FBOBOBMT(TM) and make a terrific business. You're also welcome to join the business.

Now that is a tempting invitation, but I'm concentrating on my chocolate business at the moment. Maybe I could start a similar test for free choccie handouts on planes?

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 19):
Once again thanks for all your comments Hannah, may 2012 be a great year flying-, food- and also otherwise and looking forward to your upcoming reports

Kiitos  

Happy flying
Infodesk   



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User currently offlineParton87 From Sweden, joined Sep 2008, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

Hello Rasmus!

Thanks for the nice story! I really like the way you write your story! The pictures are nice too! I have flown on the ATR several times and always enjoyed the flights. It´s a beautiful A/C as well I think! 

I was surprised too see that Golden Air flew for KF on domestic flights in Finland! Didn´t know that. Do they still fly TMP-ARN with the ATR?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
End of Swedish humour --

I love this! Very funny! This things have taken up many news-report in Sweden the last couple of years! Wonder if they will ever sort these things out?

Greetings
Robert


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27007 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6381 times:

Hey Mr R  

WOW you out did yourself this time. What a wonderful piece of writing and photos to go with it.
Really did enjoy it.

Shame about the extra infant but kudos for you for answering the quiz correctly we expect nothing less !

So if I see a orange book and Blue1 sticker I know to run quick haha.... ( joke ) ...

Thanks for the report again

Happy New Year

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 688 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6375 times:

Hi 717Flyer,

awesome report you have put together here, well written with a lot of nice details, thanks a lot. Looks like you had two nice flights. Congrats for your first flight in Business, nice Christmas present for you   Good service on that Blue/Golden Air flight, especially with a good-humored flight attendant like this.

I also enjoyed your wintry pictures of Lapland, very nice.

Happy new year
CaptainRed


25 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi Robert, Come on, I've written many reports on those last year! Haven't you paid any attention? Nope, it's been a Saab 2000 for a couple of years ag
26 Post contains images 717Flyer : Hi Robert and P., Talking about details, are we? Exactly as P. stated above the only Golden Air ATRs operating for Blue1 are based in HEL. Some time a
27 Post contains images Parton87 : Oh sorry, when you say it I remember when you flew to Vasaa right? When I wrote the comment only the route to TLL come in my mind! You write so many
28 burj : O.k. thanks for the link! That explains a lot and I can see why this drink would be popular up north in the winter!
29 Post contains images aerdingus : Thanks for bringing back my memories of Finland I really admire the fa's in this, they are really funny but don't take no sheeet! Nice humorous trip r
30 The777Man : Hi Rasmus! Thanks for a making a fantastic report on such a short and simple route! Very impressive with Premium Economy on DC! Meal looks really good
31 Post contains images 717Flyer : More comments, yay! Hi again Hannah, I agree it can be hard sometimes to cope with the cold (and I'm a Finn after all, I was even born in Lapland) and
32 The777Man : Sorry, Rasmus, I'm not a 717 fan. It's just a short MD-80 with new engines and a new name. I'm not a M80 fan either; on the controrary. I've had too
33 Post contains images signol : Hi 717Flyer, Very good report, thanks, so detailed and spiced with humour Nice to fly officially in Business for the first time - my first is yet to c
34 Post contains links and images 717Flyer : Hi again Lars, Why should you need to apologize? I understand your point, but at least at this stage I prefer a T-tail (even though 777s don't exactl
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