OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14424 times:
Hoşgeldiniz / Καλώς ορίσατε/ Welcome
So I had ended up in Toronto , Canada as part of my months vacation. I stopped in Toronto for some shopping and to have a reunion with my Cousin from Guyana who I had not seen for 10 years ! It was to be a very special few days for me. After my short stay I needed to get to Athens to see my Family so I looked at various ways. I didnt want to go Via FRA or ZRH as I wanted to do the long flight and get sleep and be just a short hop from ATH after the longhaul. TK has been advertising quite alot in the Greek market for the USA and Canada. After checking the availability and schedule it was decision time. TK is was to be
I have been a fan of TK for many years and I always said they were an airline to watch . It seems I was right. I have tried various products of theirs over the years. I was lucky enough to be the first ever F Class passenger on their LHR-IST product. I also was able to sample their Y and J class products on the A330/A310/B737 etc...
I have always had good flights with them. Ever since I have seen the new Business Class product advertised I had wanted to try it so this would be a good chance to see how far TK have come.
Some of my previous TK Trip Reports over the years :
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 1, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14757 times:
Lunch at Taco Bell
A taste of Lebanon :
Sorry Christian no MEA at YYZ so hope this is ok instead
DATE: 05/DEC/2011
AIRLINE: TURKISH AIRLINES
ROUTE: TORONTO - ISTANBUL
CLASS: BUSINESS
SEAT: 3A
AIRCRAFT: B77W
REG: TC - JJL DELIVERED 23/02/2011 NAMED : KARADENIZ
After a nice few days and catching up with my Cousin it was time to take the shuttle to the Airport.
Journey time is around 40 minutes and they had free wifi onboard. I arrived at the airport and made my
way to the TK check in .
I checked in at the desk . The lady was pleasant and tagged by three cases to ATH. She then
invited me to use the Air Canada lounge the whole process took around 4-5 minutes. I then made
my way through security and to the Air Canada lounge .
I was quite impressed with the lounge . Lots of nice areas to chill out and plenty of food and drink.
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OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 2, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14758 times:
Soon it was time to head to the gate :
It was cold on the way to the airport but I didnt realise it was snowing !
My ride to Istanbul. We will need to get de iced first though :
Soon it was time to board. Families/people needing extra time and J Class and *G were invited
to board first. I made my way down the air bridge and was greeted by a FA with a trolley outside the
aircraft with amenity kits and newspapers. I like that concept . The FA was smiling and it was a nice
welcome onboard.
As soon as I entered the cabin I was welcomed and shown to my seat.
No sooner had I sat down after taking the photos an FA came and offered me a choice of
Orange juice-Water or Champagne . Only one choice for me on this important occassion.
The bubbles won
I love this pattern. If TK J seats ever come on the market I will buy a set
Another FA came around with headsets .
First impressions of this cabin were very good. Nice layout and colours and very welcoming.
The B777 is my favourite aircraft compared to the A330 transatlantic. I know people argue
about the number of seats in a row but for me the spacious B777 in J is the clear winner.
The A380 is the only aircraft I rate above the B777.
A pic of the amenity kit everyone got at the door :
Shortly the onboard Chef came around and handed out chocolates :
Then the crew came around and handed out J Class amenity kits and slippers:
The safety demo commenced.
Very nice indeed I must say :
I close the amenity kit and do not open anything . My Aunt in Athens has instructed me that she wants
the nice TK amenity kit with the Bvlgari pieces. Seeing as she will be cooking and baking all my favourite
food and cakes for the next two weeks I will not argue
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OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 3, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14718 times:
Soon its time to leave the gate and make our way to the runway to be de iced. This seems to
take for ages and we are around 45 mins late. Im not too worried as the flight time is to be alot
less than I thought. I had one hour and 20 mintues connection in IST so didnt want any delays
in arriving.
Finally we made our way down the runway and time to say goodbye to Canada :
Soon after take off the crew spring into action and hand out hot towels.
My table is made :
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OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 5, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14682 times:
I decided to just recline my seat and reast a bit whilst watching the map . Soon it was time to
have breakfast and orange juice and hot towels were handed out.
Followed by a really nice breakfast.
The onboard Chef came to me and asked if there was anything else I wanted to which I asked for
a Cappuchino. Soon enough it was delivered and very good it was too ! Does anyone know what
device TK use to make these ? Nespresso maybe ?
Shortly after a trip to see Comfort Class which is a very nice cabin and decent seats:
Followed by Economy class :
Then back to my bed for a rest
Soon we were nearing IST and the cabin was made ready for landing.
Connecting flight information which is a great idea .
The dreaded IST holding pattern !
Finally it was our time to land with some nice views of the city below :
Yes I can see the runway :
We had a very smooth landing and made our way to the gate :
We arrived on stand and it was time to disembark the aircraft with one last shot of my seat . I thanked
the crew for a wonderful flight and they appreciated the comments and said ''Your welcome anytime''.
Another Greek visitor
Always interesting metal at IST . Now theres a TR someone needs to write !
With one hour twenty minutes til my connecting flight I wanted to spend at least some time in the new
highly rated TK Lounge.
And here it is :
You scan your boarding pass and gain entry via automatic gates :
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OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 6, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14581 times:
As you can see its a very impressive lounge with lots of nice areas and amazing quality of catering.
You couldnt want anything more from a lounge.
Always a great idea in lounges :
Need to charge your phone ? :
I love this wall :
DATE: 06/DEC/2011
AIRLINE: TURKISH AIRLINES
FLIGHT: TK 1849
ROUTE: ATHENS - ISTANBUL
CLASS: BUSINESS
SEAT: 3A
AIRCRAFT: AIRBUS A320
REG: TC - JPP DELIVERED 15/09/2008
Soon it was time to head to the gate :
Hmm must be for him or his son/daughter maybe
I was greeted by a friendly FA and shown the way to my seat :
Not far to go at all :
Welcome drinks were handed out :
Soon it was time to head to the runway to take off.
Whilst we were making our way to take off headsets were handed out :
After take off the crew handed out hot towels:
Followed by a menu :
And a very nice and ample meal :
Cherry juice the all time favourite of mine when flying on TK:
After a short flight it was time to land into ATH :
We landed and pulled up on stand . I said goodbye to the crew and made my way to the arrivals.
After a very short time my bags came off first and all were accounted for .
I took the bus to my Family home and it was great un packing and giving them all their presents.
I had decided to buy my Aunt a set of Calphalon pans also to which she was delighted. She also
love her TK amenity kit
So thats the end of my report. I hope you all enjoyed it. Sorry for the hundreds of photos but I wanted
to show you the full product of TK. I think you will agree they are impressive. I found the seat the most
comfortable Business Class flatbed I have experienced in a long time. The food was 10/10. The service
was perfect and I couldnt fault the crew for anything. Some people complain about lack of smiles from the
crew but to me they are friendly and do their job and never turned down a request. I prefer that than false
''Disney'' smiles and OTT service.
The B777 experience has only hardened my opinion that an A330 is second best in J across the Atlantic.
Sorry I know some will not like that but its only my opinion
The new TK lounge at IST is one of the best in my opinion and I think the catering is the best in any of the
Star Alliance lounges.
For longhaul travel I would certainly recommend Turkish Airlines. They will give the Gulf carriers a run for their
money with a product like this. Its great to see TK picking up more passengers from the Greek market and I have noticed that the flights between IST-ATH and vv are packed even with OA A3 SQ and TK on the routes.
I look forward to your comments and replies as usual.
Many thanks for reading .
Kind regards
Philip / OA260
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ROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1007 posts, RR: 18 Reply 7, posted (4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14152 times:
Hola Philip!
Once again I have to say that you impressed me with such a report, really great!
Let's go step by step.
Although I have been many times to Canada, three in the last year, I have never been to Toronto which seems a great city but I do not know if it has the charm of Montréal or the great scenery that Vancouver has, anyway I would like at least go through their airport at least once which seems really nice. AC lounges tend to have the same food, at least your pictures show the same things I had for lunch at YYC and YVR two weeks ago. They are usually pretty well stocked and have plenty of drinks as well.
TK deserves to become a 5 star airline... according to your report and the pictures they seem to be a great airline. Food looks delicious, very well presented and the idea of having a chef on board gives it a classy touch that not many airlines have nowadays. I think is excellent. The seat looks really comfortable and the cabin very roomy despite having three seats in the middle section.
I am surprised to see that YYZ-IST is only an 8 hours flight, I thought it would take longer.
The cabin seems to be very well kept and the bathroom is impressive with that sink... it really feels you are flying something different.
TK lounge at IST is a master piece of good and modern design... again impressed.
In your last flight, how do they mange to serve a whole meal in such a short flight? Touché again!
I have only one negative comment, why do they show Manchester U. players on their safety demo? They should go for FC Barcelona, which they sponsor as well. At least you got a couple of pics of their B777 with Barça on it. They have flown it to BCN some times when the team is playing important games across Europe and beyond.
BTW, how do you manage to take so many pictures? Do you have time for everything?
Have a great year of flying! Thanks a lot for the report. Keep them coming!
Roger
"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
reifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 819 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14021 times:
Hi Philip! What a great report! Thanks so much for sharing, I loved all the pictures. Their product looks impressive, just the toilets... And the lounge in Istanbul! Very exciting experience.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 9, posted (4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13977 times:
Hola Roger ,
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 7): Once again I have to say that you impressed me with such a report, really great!
Thanks alot much appreciated .
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 7): I have never been to Toronto which seems a great city
I cant make up my mind . I like more each time I go . I intend to go back again this year as my Cousin is living there now and its easy from Ireland.
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 7): TK deserves to become a 5 star airline.
Indeed just some consistancy issues and ground handling bugs when things go wrong but apart from that I agree.
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 7): I am surprised to see that YYZ-IST is only an 8 hours flight,
Indeed I was preparing myself for close to 10 hours which I was dreading even in J as I hate longhaul.
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 7): TK lounge at IST is a master piece of good and modern design... again impressed.
Yes its a really impressive lounge with so much in it .
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 7): BTW, how do you manage to take so many pictures? Do you have time for everything?
Haha I always took loads of photos as a kid and click lots but normally with not too bad results.
Quoting reifel (Reply 8): Hi Philip! What a great report! Thanks so much for sharing, I loved all the pictures. Their product looks impressive, just the toilets... And the lounge in Istanbul! Very exciting experience.
Thanks alot . Yes I was impressed with the bathroom also . More like a hotel !
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leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 284 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 13795 times:
Wow.. Not to disrespect anyone else writing TRs but this was the best I have read (and looked at) in a loooooong time. Great shots! And by the way, the loads look really good in all three classes, seems like comfort class is picking up finally. Great service it seems, what a long way TK has come.
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 10): But suppose you could sleep well afterwards?
I love sweet things its my downfall.
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 10): Interesting. Did they have a manned counter? Also how to admit guests?
Yes to the right there are about three staff members to assist if any issues. Very well laid out .
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 11): Wow.. Not to disrespect anyone else writing TRs but this was the best I have read (and looked at) in a loooooong time. Great shots! And by the way,
WOW back thats an amazing compliment and thanks so much. There are increasingly some amazing trip reporters who are raising the bar each time so I must raise mine to be on their level . For me this section of the website is the most enjoyable and we have some great members here who spend hours writing their reports and sharing their experiences. I am just one of those and am proud to be a part of it
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 11): the loads look really good in all three classes, seems like comfort class is picking up finally. Great service it seems, what a long way TK has come.
Yes loads were good and Comfort Class is a great product indeed.
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gabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 1646 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 13673 times:
Hey Philip,
Looks like you had a good flight. The new lounge in IST is light years away from the old wreck they used to have - quite fancy checking it out sometime.
gpbcroppers63 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 484 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 13657 times:
Wow Philip. What an amazing report!! You said TK were impressive but I didn't realise they were this good. The lounge in IST looks absolutely stunning. Well worth going back for an extended layover I reckon. I'm surprised it was only just over 8 hours from YYZ to IST. That seems very short for a flight of that distance. You must have had tail winds.
The pictures of Toronto are lovely too. I've always wanted to go there and I fancy it even more now having seen your shots. The Courtyard looks like a good hotel.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 3): When I woke up we were over Ireland . It was nice to fly over my adopted home
You flew right over my house by the looks of it.
Thanks again for such an amazingly comprehensive report. You've really shown us exactly what the TK long-haul experience is all about. I was wondering who would be the first to write a report on their new J class and the new lounge in IST and I'm very glad it's you as the quality of your reports is always second to none!
Looking forward to the next TR in this series.
Gareth
According to one of my colleagues, my problem is that I'm addicted to travel!
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 15, posted (4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 13615 times:
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13): Looks like you had a good flight. The new lounge in IST is light years away from the old wreck they used to have - quite fancy checking it out sometime.
LOL... I have to say I loved the old lounge but this is much better by far I agree.
Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 14): You said TK were impressive but I didn't realise they were this good. The lounge in IST looks absolutely stunning. Well worth going back for an extended layover I reckon
Hey Gareth thanks alot . Id easily spend a day in that lounge given the chance
Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 14): The pictures of Toronto are lovely too. I've always wanted to go there
milesaddict From Singapore, joined Dec 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 13580 times:
Well.. it's hard to write a TR after yours...
Well done budy ! Always a pleasure reading your famous TR..
TK is a fantastic carrier, too bad they gave up the First...
To me TK have the best J within Europe (If we consider Turkish is within the euro zone, but it's not the point, though I'd love to have them to boost the economy). They beat AF, LX, LH, BA easily.
Having a chief onboard it's a huge asset. I got the same seat on the IST-CDG in C using the 330. It was very comfy. the blanket is the very nice btw.
The lounge is outstanding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TK you re the one !
Cheers Phil !
Personnal question (I would understand if you deny to explain me) : You have a LH SEN and a BD GOLD. How you choose the FFP to get your miles ? And why you keep crediting your BMI account since the BA takeover ?
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3615 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 13495 times:
Wow, Philip,
Incredible. Thank you so much for taking the time for all the photos and the caption.
I am way jealous, the food, the seats, the lounge all seems pretty impressive. I am glad you made your connection even with deicing and Holding at IST.
Is that a Richard Serra large scale metal sculpture at YYZ? ( The pic just before your first pic of TK77W)
I agree with AF/LH/BA but LX is still very close to my heart LOL...
Quoting milesaddict (Reply 16): Personnal question (I would understand if you deny to explain me) : You have a LH SEN and a BD GOLD. How you choose the FFP to get your miles ? And why you keep crediting your BMI account since the BA takeover ?
No probs mate . Im juggling them around. For me Status is more important then the miles. I mean I really value lounges/priority check in /extra baggage allowance more than redemptions so I have now guranteed *G to 2013 even if the worst case scenario with BD happens. BA status I have no interest in as I rarely fly them and that wont change. I think I will go for A3 Gold in the end and maintain it as Im already Silver with them and its very easy to get/maintain. Im crediting to BD purely to get to 38K to see if I get renewed to BMI when my membership is up for renewal in June. Ironically enough after this year Im lifetime Gold ! Yeah yeah life sucks LOL... but thats the way the cookie crumbles.
Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 17): I've been very tempted with that for a long time. 2012 may be the year!
Yeah maybe end of the year !
Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 17): Your TRs are always amazing but this one was a cut above again!
Cheers mate
Quoting TK787 (Reply 18): Incredible. Thank you so much for taking the time for all the photos and the caption.
Thanks for the reply. Glad you enjoyed it . Wanted to make it a detailed one for all my friends on the Turkish thread
Quoting TK787 (Reply 18): Is that a Richard Serra large scale metal sculpture at YYZ? ( The pic just before your first pic of TK77W)
Not sure Im the wrong person to ask . Maybe one of our Canadian Anetters will know ?
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tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 485 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 13337 times:
Well, every time I read one of your great trip reports; I feel ashamed of my laziness. But then again, I don't think I could be a match for you anyway. Thanks Philip for the time and effort
On my last trip to
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2): First impressions of this cabin were very good. Nice layout and colours and very welcoming.
The B777 is my favourite aircraft compared to the A330 transatlantic. I know people argue
about the number of seats in a row but for me the spacious B777 in J is the clear winner.
I am one of those people, shame on me For me the only advantage of the TK 77Ws are the bigger lavatories for the J Cabin. The middle seat is a definite no no, but luckily I see that your flight wasn't full and the seat next to you was empty. Also, depending on the crew, the fewer number of J seats on the 333s (same seats as 777s) usually means better service. But then, its a matter of taste.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2): A pic of the amenity kit everyone got at the door
That is the new amenity kit for Comfort Class. So you got both
Quoting OA260 (Reply 5): Shortly after a trip to see Comfort Class which is a very nice cabin and decent seats
The white stickers on the comfort class seats is to keep away any intruders from Y
Quoting OA260 (Reply 6): As you can see its a very impressive lounge with lots of nice areas and amazing quality of catering.
You couldn't want anything more from a lounge.
Very impressive indeed. Credit to Do&Co who maintain and cater the lounge. I hope you enjoyed your time there. Did you try the Demel Cakes? Do&Co and TK certainly try hard to extend ones waistline
Quoting OA260 (Reply 6): Some people complain about lack of smiles from the
crew but to me they are friendly and do their job and never turned down a request. I prefer that than false
''Disney'' smiles and OTT service.
I come across some excellent crew as well on TK, IMHO, it is very depended on the Purser. To me TK is like Jekyll & Hyde, if I may say so. You can have excellent crew and everything going flawless; but then you also have the occasions when Hyde shows up Especially during irregular operations. I have to admit though things are improving on the ground and in the air. BTW, How were the drink runs during the night after main service? I hope you were not left alone with the small bottle of water.
Anyway, sorry for my long comments, thank you once again for your excellent report, it is always a joy to read...
Many thanks Im sure you will get the chance sometime. BTW I think you will enjoy the next reports
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): Well, every time I read one of your great trip reports; I feel ashamed of my laziness.
Thanks so much and its so nice of you to take the time to say so much appreciated.
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): Thanks Philip for the time and effort
No probs all worth it .
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): I am one of those people, shame on me
I guess I will have to let you off lol...
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): The middle seat is a definite no no,
Oh I agree there I wouldnt want to be in the middle of the middle row ! Sometimes there can be exceptions though
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): The white stickers on the comfort class seats is to keep away any intruders from Y
Yeah I thought that although I dont like them personally.
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): I hope you enjoyed your time there. Did you try the Demel Cakes? Do&Co and TK certainly try hard to extend ones waistline
I didnt eat anything to be honest as I wasnt hungry thank god otherwise I could have done some damage LOL..
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): I come across some excellent crew as well on TK, IMHO, it is very depended on the Purser. To me TK is like Jackal & Hyde, if I may say so. You can have excellent crew and everything going flawless; but then you also have the occasions when Hyde shows up Especially during irregular operations. I have to admit though things are improving on the ground and in the air.
You seem to sum it up perfectly. Couldnt have written it better myself
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): BTW, How were the drink runs during the night after main service? I hope you were not left alone with the small bottle of water.
I was sleeping for a good few hours but they did a few rounds so they did not dissapear . No complaints at all .
Quoting tcm (Reply 21): Anyway, sorry for my long comments, thank you once again for your excellent report, it is always a joy to read...
Not at all really appreciate the time you took to reply and thanks again
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AT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 840 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 13070 times:
Phenomenal trip, and trip report!
The 77Ws look really comfortable, although I wish the mood lighting- nice as it is- was a bit more subtler. These are not the ones that TK was leasing from Jet Airways, are they?
Lufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3119 posts, RR: 50 Reply 25, posted (4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 13106 times:
Agree the new 77W is great. Flown it in J/W/Y.
TK just needs to fix the ground staff, fine in IST thanks to the new IST lounge in there. I go there for any problems instead of talking to awful TGS staff at transfer/gate. But try BGS in PEK and SATS HK in HKG. A complete disgrace.
Not to mention the 77W should be J42 Y28, rest Y... The current J28 W63 Yxx is ridiculous.
I love TK when at their best, I hate it at their worst... They list my status miles as 213000 as of now for the period ending 29 FEB.
shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 5864 posts, RR: 17 Reply 27, posted (4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 13000 times:
Brilliant report Philip, every time I read one of yours I end up checking fares to try the featured airline myself, first it was Swiss, then it was getting back on board Bmi and now I find myself wanting to fly Turkish!
That lounge is incredible and I love their cabins, some airlines just stick in seats with their colours on, others go over the top and boarder on tacky but the TK 777 cabin looks great, they seem to celebrate Turkish design and style. This level of service from TK came out of nowhere, at least I wasn't aware they were this good with their on board product and lounges! Surely they've earned their place as a major player in the years ahead?
Lufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3119 posts, RR: 50 Reply 29, posted (4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 13010 times:
Problem is TGS (Turkish Ground Services) are totally de-motivated since TK spun that off to somebody with low wages. I was recently denied boarding 25 min before dep, boarding pass clearly says "BOARDING ENDS 15 MIN BEFORE DEPARTURE". Protested and they moved me to the next day, and charged change fee! Then charged a rebooking fee ex-IST too etc. And as "Best Airline in Europe" they need to fix up their ground contracts. For example in HEL, the non-Schengen lounge they use (read: CHEAP) is not acceptable.
Lufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3119 posts, RR: 50 Reply 30, posted (4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12995 times:
We'll see how my HKG-IST-LAX-IST-HKG, HKG-IST-LAX go but I'm ready to jump ship the day QR/EK start HEL and match my status.
Already cancelled one of my HKG-IST with no A availability, it took 4 agents and 2 hours to explain the next day has U, and please contact your manager to open up A. Confirmed in 20 mins but that is just ridiculous.
I love TK in the air and hate them on the ground, especially the outsourced staff.
lukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 741 posts, RR: 27 Reply 31, posted (4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12949 times:
Hi Philip.
You did not disappoint on this trip report - a very enjoyable experience to share with you.
Particularly appropriate as I am of to YYZ in a week - though sadly on the marginally less glamorous Air Transat!- so it was good to see some scenes of the city and the airport. Hopefully it will be snowing when I am there.
Food looked great - how did the onboard chef present himself? I presume they receive the same high levels of customer service. I am not convinced that I love the OB Chef idea yet.
Lounge at IST looked beautiful. A curious old curvy theme going on but executed in a classy way.
Lufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3119 posts, RR: 50 Reply 32, posted (4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12945 times:
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 31): Food looked great - how did the onboard chef present himself? I presume they receive the same high levels of customer service. I am not convinced that I love the OB Chef idea yet
Not Philip here, but the TK Chefs really vary a lot. I recently only saw one to hand out the great Godiva chocolates and disappearing. Another one nicely plating the main cources and asking for comments. TK needs more consistent standards. But I think it's the usual fast growth problems.
767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 28 Reply 33, posted (4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12817 times:
Nice report, OA260!
TK is fast becoming an airline I have to try. Business Class looks amazing, and the food presentation is second to none! Definitely beats any other airlines' offerings on a route like this! I love how they have menus for every flight, and address the menu with your name. How classy!
sjacob From Uganda, joined Apr 2009, 22 posts, RR: 0 Reply 35, posted (4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12139 times:
Damn......Man, the pictures of Toronto, AWESOME.........
TK B777W is just magnificent....Trip well detailed and compiled, just enjoyed every bit of reading it...
The J Class of a B777, in my opinion seems much more comfortable than that of the A330. It seems more spacious unlike the one of the A330 which looks congested...
triple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 0 Reply 36, posted (4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 12134 times:
This is an excellent trip report from start to finish. Your pictures captured the essence of the trip and I feel like I was right there. You included all aspects of the trip and it was very well done. I especially liked your pictures of the airshow map in flight. I thought of the many places in Europe I have been to and it makes me want to go back.
I have never flown TK, although I have seen there 777-300ER in NRT many times. From your trip report, they sound like a truly great airline. Thank you again for an excellent trip report.
sultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 747 posts, RR: 27 Reply 39, posted (4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11962 times:
Hi Philip,
Thanks for bringing us this picturesque insight into the excellent airline that is TK. A top notch experience and indeed able of giving the Gulf State carriers a run for their money. The C class cabin looks modern and inviting, food is nicely presented and plentiful.
I think TK is definitely an excellent *A partner!
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): After a while a trip to check out the facilities.
I’ve never seen such a lavatory before: definitely very modern and stylish!
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 40, posted (4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11840 times:
Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 27): Brilliant report Philip, every time I read one of yours I end up checking fares to try the featured airline myself, first it was Swiss, then it was getting back on board Bmi and now I find myself wanting to fly Turkish!
Hey Kev thanks for the reply.
Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 27): This level of service from TK came out of nowhere, at least I wasn't aware they were this good with their on board product and lounges!
True among the public people dont know much about them. I say it to my colleagues and friends and they look at me with surprise. I guess its a case of getting the news out there .
Quoting klkla (Reply 28): Thanks for such a detailed report. Probably the most detailed I have ever seen on this site. With all those pics I felt like I was there.
Many thanks for your reply much appreciated . Glad there were not too many photos.
Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 29): is TGS (Turkish Ground Services) are totally de-motivated since TK spun that off to somebody with low wages. I was recently denied boarding 25 min before dep, boarding pass clearly says "BOARDING ENDS 15 MIN BEFORE DEPARTURE". Protested and they moved me to the next day, and charged change fee
Sounds like a nightmare and to charge for it . Did you take this up with customer relations ?
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 31): You did not disappoint on this trip report - a very enjoyable experience to share with you.
Particularly appropriate as I am of to YYZ in a week - though sadly on the marginally less glamorous Air Transat!
Hi Luke and thanks. Hope you enjoy Toronto and I look forward to hearing about it. Im interested to see what TS offer these days so dont forget
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 31): I am not convinced that I love the OB Chef idea yet.
I have to say I like it but they dont do an awful lot in the cabin but behind the scenes I guess they instruct the crew?
Quoting 767747 (Reply 33): TK is fast becoming an airline I have to try. Business Class looks amazing, and the food presentation is second to none! Definitely beats any other airlines' offerings on a route like this! I love how they have menus for every flight, and address the menu with your name. How classy!
I agree I love these little touches it really makes them shine.
Quoting The777Man (Reply 34): TK's J class looks excellent as expected! I had a great flight with them in Y last year LAX-IST and I rank it among the best I have ever had in Y.
Thanks for the reply yes and Im glad they impressed in Y also . From my quick look at Y it looked pretty decent.
Quoting sjacob (Reply 35): The J Class of a B777, in my opinion seems much more comfortable than that of the A330. It seems more spacious unlike the one of the A330 which looks congested...
I agree it gives a living room feel and very spacious which is very important for me .
Quoting triple7man (Reply 36): This is an excellent trip report from start to finish. Your pictures captured the essence of the trip and I feel like I was right there. You included all aspects of the trip and it was very well done.
Hello and thanks so much for the reply. Im really glad you enjoyed it and appreciate your comments.
Quoting emrecan (Reply 37): Great report Philip, it would be perfect if you had been on the new fixed cabin C/Class A320 on your ATH flight.
Thanks alot. Indeed or a new B737 with the fab interior which I really want to try
Quoting Tsveto4nik (Reply 38): Great report... Hope I will try TK's F class this summer to JFK...
Thats great I hope you have a great trip .
Quoting sultanils (Reply 39): I think TK is definitely an excellent *A partner!
Hey Nils yes they are and when they joined I was so excited. Really was a good decision by Star.
Quoting sultanils (Reply 39): Wow, I’m seriously impressed, that lounge reveils it’s identity very clearly. Love the arches and everything.
Indeed the lounge is unique and Id even put it way above the BA F Class lounge in LHR.
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burj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 764 posts, RR: 4 Reply 41, posted (4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11537 times:
Wow! As others have said what an excellent trip report!
I am super impressed with TK and that lounge is awesome! Is that lounge a Star Gold lounge, or is exclusively for TK passengers?
And if I read all the comments correctly you received a white amenity kit that is the Comfort Class kit and then they gave you onboard the Business class kit... right?
simfanatic From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 43 posts, RR: 0 Reply 42, posted (4 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11227 times:
Really nice report. The lounge in IST looks absolutely stunning! Maybe TK is a future option on my way to India, it definitely seems to be the quickest option. Does anybody know what TK's plans for the refurbishment of their short-haul fleet looks like? AFAIK, some A32X fly with a new cabin, complete with IFE et al.
IL62Mdakar From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 73 posts, RR: 0 Reply 44, posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11041 times:
Thank you for the great trip report.
TK's product looks indeed great. I will fly IST to LHR in C in a few weeks time and look forward to it. Hopefully there won't be an equipment change and I should be on a B777 as well.
Is the lounge in IST the standard business lounge?
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): I have to say the design and amenities in the bathroom were very well done and really nice.
Looks great for being an aircraft lavatory.
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): Shortly after a trip to see Comfort Class which is a very nice cabin and decent seats:
Wow, I never realized the Comfort Class cabin was that large.
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): With one hour twenty minutes til my connecting flight I wanted to spend at least some time in the new
highly rated TK Lounge.
globalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 664 posts, RR: 1 Reply 46, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10841 times:
Hi Philip...WOW that was an amazing trip and amazing pictures! I have not had a chance to visit Turkey nor fly TK but it is so high on my list! Great pics of my former city, YYZ too! I am so impressed with the style of service on board the TK flights and that lounge may just be the best I have ever seen (at least in pictures) and I have enjoyed many global lounges in person such as QR First and Business in DOH, TG Royal Silk in BKK, QF in SIN, KE in ICN, etc. Thanks for sharing! Very nice read. Cheers, William
Landing on every Continent almost on an annual basis!
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 2372 posts, RR: 1 Reply 49, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10515 times:
I have elite status (*G) with TK, yet I have still to fly TK. I see it's clear that TK is something that I have to try soon!
The service looks incredible, especially with the onboard chef, however, the hardware (seat), although not bad, it is not the best out there, but still looks like a very good product.
However, the lounge, I'm simply amazed, that looks like the best lounge I have ever seen, with so much variety of services and catering. However, in peak times, how filled is it? Seems to be a smaller ratio of seats to area than most other lounges. Some lounges around the world are great, but at peak times seating can get a bit cramped, do you know how this lounge compares?
If I hadn't booked my summer trip to Europe already I might have considered taking TK. However, I might need to wait for next Christmas, but TK are definitely on my list of must-fly airlines.
kazim786 From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 10 posts, RR: 0 Reply 51, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10490 times:
Great TR, must say TK really knows how to keep their passengers happy! Did anyone else notice the TK advert with the flight attendant, the 777 is missing its nose wheel!
shamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 3757 posts, RR: 14 Reply 52, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10445 times:
TK look good!
The 777 J cabin and seat is just like AF (almost identical seat - just some small cosmetic differences), but the cabin has been enhanced with clever branding and the good old mood lighting.
TK win on the food choice, amenity kits, and that stunning IST lounge.
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OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 53, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10416 times:
Quoting burj (Reply 41): I am super impressed with TK and that lounge is awesome! Is that lounge a Star Gold lounge, or is exclusively for TK passengers?
Hi there yes its a Star Gold lounge so all Star Golds can use it as long as your on a Star carrier.
Quoting burj (Reply 41): And if I read all the comments correctly you received a white amenity kit that is the Comfort Class kit and then they gave you onboard the Business class kit... right?
Yes thats correct.
Quoting burj (Reply 41): What was the difference in contents?
The whole design of the bag inside and out and the Bvlgari bits and pieces are missing in the Comfort class one. I thought the Y class also got these white ones. Could be wrong.
Quoting simfanatic (Reply 42): Really nice report. The lounge in IST looks absolutely stunning! Maybe TK is a future option on my way to India, it definitely seems to be the quickest option
Hi thanks and yes you should certainly look at them for your next trip .
Quoting simfanatic (Reply 42): Interesting hovering concept on this 77W.
haha well done I never noticed that
Quoting okapi (Reply 43): Hi! Definitely one of my favourite airline. Great service, great report and great pictures, both on the ground and airborne.
Thank you Im really glad you enjoyed it .
Quoting IL62Mdakar (Reply 44): TK's product looks indeed great. I will fly IST to LHR in C in a few weeks time and look forward to it. Hopefully there won't be an equipment change and I should be on a B777 as well.
Hi thats good keep us updated with your experience and I hope they keep the B777 on the flight also . You will have a great time.
Quoting IL62Mdakar (Reply 44): Is the lounge in IST the standard business lounge?
Yes you can have access with all TK C class tickets.
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 45): Great tripreport as usual!
I've wanted to try TK for a long time. They seems to be a great airline.
Hi Martin certainly should be on your to do list . You are in for a treat.
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 45): I've never been on a 777, but indeed that cabin looks very roomy.
Make sure you get on one you will love it . Maybe as above the LHR-IST will be an option for you .
Quoting globalflyer (Reply 46): Hi Philip...WOW that was an amazing trip and amazing pictures! I have not had a chance to visit Turkey nor fly TK but it is so high on my list! Great pics of my former city, YYZ too
Hi thank you . Glad you liked the YYZ pics also . Hope you get to take that trip soon
Quoting nethkt (Reply 47): WOW - Trip report of the year 2012 so far!
Enjoy all the photos and story. This is one of the best TR in a while.
Hey thanks alot . lol... Im glad you liked it that much .
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 48): Nice, very nice, fully impressed all the way ... and no definitely NO, there are not too many pictures
Hi Im glad I didnt overload you with the pics As you can see it would be hard to take any of the photos out as they made the whole report.
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 49): I have elite status (*G) with TK, yet I have still to fly TK. I see it's clear that TK is something that I have to try soon!
Interesting . You should take them then you will be really impressed. Do they offer you any special upgrade certs or vouchers ?
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 49): However, in peak times, how filled is it?
Not sure as I was there around late afternoon . I guess mornings and around 7-8 pm could be busy especially in Summer.
Quoting 777ord (Reply 50): WOW!!! That is perhaps the longest TR here!! Intense detail.
LOL... I will take that as a compliment Thanks
Quoting kazim786 (Reply 51): Did anyone else notice the TK advert with the flight attendant, the 777 is missing its nose wheel!
Yes as above but I never noticed it lol...
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Tim Horton's is a breakfast, lunch choice for most Torontonians..great prices and good sandwhiches etc. They have a Tim Horton's in the New York near Macy's
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 52): The 777 J cabin and seat is just like AF (almost identical seat - just some small cosmetic differences), but the cabin has been enhanced with clever branding and the good old mood lighting.
TK win on the food choice, amenity kits, and that stunning IST lounge.
TK win over AF anyday IMHO I wouldnt even consider AF if TK were on the route with this product. Saying that I have to try AF this Spring so look out for the detailed review
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 54): Nice to see a "Shoppers Drug Mart" in there lol
I found them great value and stocked up on all my drugs. Tylenol flu complete was 25% off and was just the
thing I needed when I got sick after Xmas. For the same thing here you need to see a Doctor so it saved me
a huge bill. Also the Vitamins and other things were alot cheaper. I got a bottle of CK Aftershave normally EUR45 for CAD$25 in the sale ! I guess its your version of Walgreens.
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 54): You should have been here last week when it was -25 degrees centigrade with the wind chill
No thanks LOL... Id die !
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 54): Tim Horton's is a breakfast, lunch choice for most Torontonians..great prices and good sandwhiches etc.
Yeah they seemed to have a decent menu. Would go to them again in future.
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MHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 947 posts, RR: 0 Reply 56, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10230 times:
Wow, thanks for this very extensive Trip Report! TK has surely upped their game lately, and their new 777 cabins look fantastic. Glad to know that the service and food was also very satisfactory. It also seems like TK's fares are very competitive with connections via IST to other destinations in the Middle East and India.
I have read reports, however, of TK suffering from various safety issues, mainly of extremely poor cockpit culture and practices. Do you have any idea of the validity of such reports?
Also, your pics are great and very detailed. Thank you!
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 57, posted (4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 10149 times:
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 56): Wow, thanks for this very extensive Trip Report! TK has surely upped their game lately, and their new 777 cabins look fantastic
Thank you for the reply. They have indeed upped their game and its paying off.
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 56): I have read reports, however, of TK suffering from various safety issues, mainly of extremely poor cockpit culture and practices. Do you have any idea of the validity of such reports?
I read that article also but nothing was ever made of it and I didnt hear anything more about it so not sure what the outcome was.
There are some very attractive TK offers and also look out for the regular Valentines ( Feb) companion fares !
Two tickets longhaul in J for around EUR999
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signol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 2753 posts, RR: 8 Reply 59, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9847 times:
Hi Phil,
another superb report, thanks!
Toronto is one of my must-visit places, my only experience of Canada was a 2-day quick side trip to Montreal from the US one time many moons ago! Looks like you had a good time there, and good shopping - I guess the value of the CAD is more in our favour now?
The TK flight looks fantastic, with excellent, personal service - Could we call them a "vrai" airline?
A shame the mobile checkin didn't work, mine has worked both times I've ever tried it, on BA and 4U.
What food! And the personal touches by the on-board chef!
And that lounge in IST! I bet you wished you had a longer connection there
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 60, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9788 times:
Hi Markus ,
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 58): what a great bunch of photos and also story. Really well done.
Now these TK lounge at IST is really high on my to do list.
Thanks alot . Yes a must for you this year and Im sure you will make it
Quoting signol (Reply 59): A shame the mobile checkin didn't work
Yes I know would have been cool but I guess either was down or wouldnt work for my ticket.
Quoting signol (Reply 59): And that lounge in IST! I bet you wished you had a longer connection there
Indeed and you know I was originally booked on the later flight from IST at 21:15 but they cancelled it 10 days before so I had to take the tight connection. It worked out well in the end. I will go back soon for another longer stay though for sure Shame the Dutchess of York is not able to relax in that lounge lol... She would be arrested
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thegivenone From Austria, joined Jan 2008, 82 posts, RR: 0 Reply 61, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9637 times:
Amazing Report!
I just booked my ticket on TK from VIE-IST-JFK in Economy Comfort and am really looking forward to it. Your report has wet my appetite even more
Thanks for the great photos and detailed account of the trip. I have to say that, amongst all other things including the gorgeous new TK interiors and the fantastic lounge, I am impressed by the classiness of the Planet TK Connecting Flights interface you show in your photos
I flew out the next night on Etihad to Abu Dhabi on Dec 6th Trip report is on a.net
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2): Soon it was time to board. Families/people needing extra time and J Class and *G were invited
to board first. I made my way down the air bridge and was greeted by a FA with a trolley outside the
aircraft with amenity kits and newspapers. I like that concept . The FA was smiling and it was a nice
welcome onboard
Nice touch!!
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2): A pic of the amenity kit everyone got at the door :
Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Then the crew came around and handed out J Class amenity kits and slippers:
Lucky you got two!
Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
Finally we made our way down the runway and time to say goodbye to Canada :
Rwy 6L perhaps
Quoting OA260 (Reply 4): And I am presented with a menu personalised with my name on it
A real personal touch, but it was written in haste it appears. Not expecting a calligraphic touch, though
Quoting OA260 (Reply 4): I have to say the design and amenities in the bathroom were very well done and really nice.
Lovely floors as someone mentioned above.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 5): I decided to just recline my seat and reast a bit whilst watching the map
They appear to have the same entertainment system provider as Etihad on it's 77W! Those high resolutions maps are awesome on EY
Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Shortly after a trip to see Comfort Class which is a very nice cabin and decent seats:
Again as someone quoted above, Comfort Class is huge
Quoting OA260 (Reply 5): Followed by Economy class :
There is another compartment beyond that, correct.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Connecting flight information which is a great idea .
EY announce those just before landing
Quoting OA260 (Reply 6): As you can see its a very impressive lounge with lots of nice areas and amazing quality of catering.
You couldnt want anything more from a lounge.
I'm glad they decided to go for their own concept, rather than copy other lounges. But they could have added some nice Turkish culture flair to it. I recall seeing pics of the other lounge which were more cultural.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 55):
Are they easy to get to as a tourist by taxo or bus ?
Taxi, too expensive....train and then bus, or two different transits with around 90 minutes one way...yes long but you get to see the suburbs.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 55): I guess it would be pretty decent . Not the same as Greece but a good taste. There is a good place called
Mr Greek in the suburbs.
Quoting thegivenone (Reply 61): just booked my ticket on TK from VIE-IST-JFK in Economy Comfort and am really looking forward to it. Your report has wet my appetite even more
Thats an interesting route. Was it bookable on the website ? May I ask the fare ? A great way to go for sure.
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 62): I flew out the next night on Etihad to Abu Dhabi on Dec 6th Trip report is on a.net
Arr ok thats nice. Must look at it . EY just won the best airline award 3 years in a row.
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 62): Taxi, too expensive....train and then bus, or two different transits with around 90 minutes one way...yes long but you get to see the suburbs.
Oh ok thanks for the info something to look at next time for sure. My Cousin could drive me Im sure
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 62): So then you must have come across Jimmy the Greek in the food courts..
I didnt actually see it maybe it was there but I missed it.
FlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1490 posts, RR: 45 Reply 65, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8887 times:
Hi Phil.
Another great report in your signature photo heavy style! That new Turkish J class certainly looks like an excellent product with a service to match. And of course you can't beat a 77W, what an absolutely amazing plane.
Those lounges look good as well, hopefully I can visit the Maple Leaf Lounge at YYZ this summer when passing through. I should also book a Turkish flight somewhere just to try out that amazing new lounge at IST! Nice that there's also a dedicated passport control so one can enter it from the landside.
Impressed by the service on the short hop to Athens too.
Nice! These bring back a lot of memories from my visit to Toronto back in 2005! I really liked the place a lot. Luckily I'm staying there for a short overnight stop this summer on my way to the US! Can hardly wait.
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): My hotel Courtyard By Marriott , great location and highly recommended.
What do you know, I stayed in that very same hotel. Even my room looked exactly the same as yours!
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): All this shopping makes me hungry so time to eat
And if this is the food court at Eaton Center I've also eaten there
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 67, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8846 times:
Hi P and thanks for the reply.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 65): Another great report in your signature photo heavy style!
Cheers
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 65): What do you know, I stayed in that very same hotel. Even my room looked exactly the same as yours!
Cool yeah its a great hotel and some great rates can be found at that time of year. Everything in a 10-20mins walk so very handy . They were doing some renovations but it didnt disturb the guests .
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 65): And if this is the food court at Eaton Center I've also eaten there
Yes it is indeed a nice place to grab some food. As stated above not daily place to eat but for tourists its great.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 65): Oh dear, you know that out of the all US fast food chains Taco Bell is pretty much the worst.
Haha have to disagree there maybe you had some bad experiences but for me I loved it and it was cooked well and tasted fresh. Especially the Cinammon twists Its not gourmet but sometimes you need your junk fix
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Aleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3173 posts, RR: 38 Reply 68, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8749 times:
Hello Phillip!
Well, there isn't much I could write new here, but I felt a strong need to say that your TRs are getting better and better as time goes by and I really enjoy in them.
Babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3228 posts, RR: 5 Reply 69, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8663 times:
A very thorough TR. Thanks.
I know you said the 777 is better in J than the A320/340 but I'm not sure you would say that if you were stuck in the middle seat of that centre section on the 777. That's where the A330 will always top the 777.
I loved the food and the lounges looked worth paying the extra money for.
Do you know what time approximately you passed overhead London?
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
akhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 1961 posts, RR: 54 Reply 70, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8577 times:
Hi Philip,
Saving the best for last! That’s why I kept your report for the weekend as I wanted to allow myself more time to read. Thank God, I did as this happens to be the most impressive and best written ever story of yours.
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): to have a reunion with my Cousin from Guyana who I had not seen for 10 years !
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 72, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8103 times:
Hi Aleksandar,
Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 68): Hello Phillip!
Well, there isn't much I could write new here, but I felt a strong need to say that your TRs are getting better and better as time goes by and I really enjoy in them.
What can I say Hvala Really grateful for your kind words. I intend to upgrade my camera this year so hope the pics get better .
Quoting Babybus (Reply 69): I know you said the 777 is better in J than the A320/340 but I'm not sure you would say that if you were stuck in the middle seat of that centre section on the 777.
Oh I would only pre assign a block of two in J . I personally dont like middle seats on any aircraft.
Quoting Babybus (Reply 69): Do you know what time approximately you passed overhead London?
Not sure to be honest. I wasnt paying that much attention. Plus I was quite tired.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 70): Saving the best for last! That’s why I kept your report for the weekend as I wanted to allow myself more time to read. Thank God, I did as this happens to be the most impressive and best written ever story of yours.
Arr Suryo thanks so much for your reply. I was looking forward to it I am pleased with this one and was so
looking forward to making it . I have not posted longhaul before so it was a new concept for me.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 70): It must have been an emotional one.
Indeed and a bit nervous for some reason but within minutes it was like me met only a week before.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 70): Nice recommendation. What about the breakfast offering?
I didnt take breakfast there so not sure what its like. Maybe P did on his stay there ?
Quoting akhmad (Reply 70): Hey, do I notice the missing nose carriage on the picture?
Haha at least mine didnt miss one
Quoting akhmad (Reply 70): How about spotting from the lounge?
I didnt notice sorry ! It was a short time there so was looking at the interior .
Quoting akhmad (Reply 70): A mini gym would be great. Oops! Am I too demanding?
Im sure one day someone will make that for you in a lounge.
Quoting photoshooter (Reply 71): yeah, I have to admit, I just LOVE reading your trip reports...
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 5429 posts, RR: 81 Reply 73, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7883 times:
Great report, Phil! TK's J Class product is certainly impressive.
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): The B777 is my favourite aircraft compared to the A330 transatlantic. I know people argue
about the number of seats in a row but for me the spacious B777 in J is the clear winner.
I don't like the middle seat in TK's J Class cabin - imagine to be stuck there with both aisle seats being flat.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 4): And I am presented with a menu personalised with my name on it .
Very impressive!
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): Hmm must be for him or his son/daughter maybe
Even adults collect high-quality plane models!
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): For longhaul travel I would certainly recommend Turkish Airlines. They will give the Gulf carriers a run for their money with a product like this.
But certain Gulf carriers have excellent J Class products, too. Just have a look at EK's A380 J Class or Oman Air's J Class. No middle seats in J Class.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 74, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7413 times:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 73): Great report, Phil! TK's J Class product is certainly impressive.
Hey Udo thanks for the reply.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 73): I don't like the middle seat in TK's J Class cabin - imagine to be stuck there with both aisle seats being flat.
True due to pre assigned seating I think anyone worried is safe to book a window on the block of two or an aisle. I guess if three people were travelling together they would like it. Families etc...
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 73): Even adults collect high-quality plane models!
Indeed me included
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 73): But certain Gulf carriers have excellent J Class products, too. Just have a look at EK's A380 J Class or Oman Air's J Class. No middle seats in J Class.
Whats the price difference between the products? TK are offering some amazing J fares lately to compete with the Gulf carriers.
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MSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 1421 posts, RR: 14 Reply 75, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6542 times:
Hi Philip
Great job you've done there! It was like flying from YYZ to ATH as well.
TK seems to have an outsourcing product, standing way ahead of any of it's European competitors.
Unbelievable how much detail has been but in the product! Looks even better then some of the Gulf carriers.
Greetings
Marc
Next trip report: Spectacular Southeastern sunset takeoff, US ATL-CLT-CDG!
airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3735 posts, RR: 52 Reply 76, posted (4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5627 times:
Hi Philip,
great tripreport! Your photos tell every detail of the wonderful service TK will give to their passengers. I love this airline, and they're the best in Europe without doubt (catering wise and hardware), usually with competitive pricing along.
The TK 77W toilet in J-class reminds me of those installed on the old JAL 744's which carried F class in the nose. Also great places to spend a little time during the flight.
Regards
Eric
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OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 23098 posts, RR: 60 Reply 78, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4858 times:
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 75): Great job you've done there! It was like flying from YYZ to ATH as well.
TK seems to have an outsourcing product, standing way ahead of any of it's European competitors.
Unbelievable how much detail has been but in the product! Looks even better then some of the Gulf carriers.
Hi Marc , many thanks for the reply. Yes TK really are making a name for themselves.
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 76): Hi Philip,
great tripreport! Your photos tell every detail of the wonderful service TK will give to their passengers. I love this airline, and they're the best in Europe without doubt (catering wise and hardware), usually with competitive pricing along.
The TK 77W toilet in J-class reminds me of those installed on the old JAL 744's which carried F class in the nose. Also great places to spend a little time during the flight.
Hi Eric ,
Many thanks for the reply . I agree they are a very good airline and offer a great product. So much so that if I wasnt taking an A3 direct flight from LHR id seriously consider TK DUB-IST-ATH in future. I would have to juggle between LX and TK though ofcourse
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 77): Funny to see the screen in ATH showing in Greek "Κωνσταντινούπολις" (Konstantinopolis), and "Istanbul" in English
Its a name that stems back to the history of when the Greeks were in Turkey and the Turks were in Greece. The Turks refer to Greece today as ''Yunanistan'' from the Ottoman Empire in Greece. The name ''Istanbul'' is from the Greek ''Stin Poli'' Which means ''In the City''. Its a conversation I have had with my very good Turkish friends whilst sipping a Turkish/Greek coffee and a piece of ( as the Greeks say )Loukoumi ( from the Turkish word Lokum ) or as is more widely known Turkish delight. I often say Yunanistan when Im in Turkey and when they ask me where my family are from . I have said Greece and they look at me puzzled. Im not bothered by these things in fact the links between Greek and Turkish history are something to celebrate and to help move us forward than to hold us back.
My local Marina where my family live is called Pasalimani from the Turkish Paşalimanı . When I was in Istanbul for a few days I bought my Aunt a lovely cashmere scalf and she was delighted. She was jealous that she couldnt come with me as she says she always feels at home in Istanbul and her soul is there. I feel at home in most countries like Turkey/Cyprus and indeed Lebanon. When I was growing up we had Lebanese friends and the culture was not foreign to us and the food and sweets were often over indulged in
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717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 268 posts, RR: 21 Reply 79, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4716 times:
Hi Philip,
What a great report you have written! I flew Turkish Airlines for the first time in February last year HEL-IST-DXB-IST-HEL (on the other side of the curtain though...) and I loved every moment of it. Seeing multiple advertisements about the "flying chef" that TK has I could only dream about J class. Your report really showed that Turkish Airlines are top notch - the new J class looks great, the food looks outstanding and well, it makes me regret I have no flights booked on TK at the moment.
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): I was quite impressed with the lounge . Lots of nice areas to chill out and plenty of food and drink.
I was about to say that judging your photos this statement really is true - but seeing the photos of the Istanbul lounge I'm stunned! That's the most luxurious airline lounge I've ever seen! Wow!
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): As soon as I entered the cabin I was welcomed and shown to my seat.
I love that Turkish Airlines logo on the wall at the back of the J cabin!
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): Shortly the onboard Chef came around and handed out chocolates :
There he is, the famous Chef!
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): I had one hour and 20 mintues connection in IST so didnt want any delays
in arriving.
Yeah, I really think Istanbul isn't the most comfortable transfer airport - on the way out I had to spend four hours there (without any lounge access) and I don't think I would do it again. On the other hand it is a whole different story with a lounge to visit.
Quoting OA260 (Thread starter): Cherry juice the all time favourite of mine when flying on TK:
Okay, but what I really love is the TK nuts! I remember commenting to the FA on my HEL-IST flight about how delicious those nuts were - and well - for the rest of the flight I was overfed with those nuts. But the service was great!
Again thanks for showing us a glimpse of the Turkish Airlines world!
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 79): What a great report you have written! I flew Turkish Airlines for the first time in February last year HEL-IST-DXB-IST-HEL (on the other side of the curtain though...) and I loved every moment of it.
Yes TK are good in both J and Y and thats a nice credit to them .
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 79): I love that Turkish Airlines logo on the wall at the back of the J cabin!
Me too the whole cabin feels very classy and modern .
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 79): Again thanks for showing us a glimpse of the Turkish Airlines world!
Welcome Im sure we will see some more of TK in the future and that we will continue to watch their progress and enhancing their already great product.
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vio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1229 posts, RR: 10 Reply 86, posted (3 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2328 times:
Heya,
Wow, that was probably the most detailed trip report I have ever seen. Turkish seems like it has a very good product. I have never had the chance to fly with them, but who knows, maybe one day
The lounge in IST was nothing short of spectacular. Hope you enjoyed your Trip and I'm looking forward to many more.
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For me the only advantage of the TK 77Ws are the bigger lavatories for the J Cabin. The middle seat is a definite no no, but luckily I see that your flight wasn't full and the seat next to you was empty. Also, depending on the crew, the fewer number of J seats on the 333s (same seats as 777s) usually means better service. But then, its a matter of taste. 
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