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Fifth Freedom Fun [P1]: LH790 Singapore To Jakarta  
User currently offlineManekS From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 241 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6808 times:

FIFTH FREEDOM FUN [PART 1]
LH790 Singapore to Jakarta



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Willkommen.

This two-part trip report series will cover my flights to and from Jakarta, Indonesia on Lufthansa. As always, there are plenty of pictures to accompany the text, and I've made sure I spare you no detail.  

My apologies in advance for the sorry state of some of the images but rain and darkness aren’t a photographer's best friends. Nevertheless, enjoy.

One of the great things about living in Singapore is the fact that it's so multicultural. This means that as a high schooler, I get plenty of short breaks throughout the year. So, two weeks into the new year, another national holiday beckoned: Chinese New Year. My school had generously allocated ten days off to commemorate the occasion.

Now, it'd only been a few weeks since I returned from my vacation in Sri Lanka , but like most aviation fanatics, I had caught a bug, and the only cure was.. flying (on a plane, of course).

My dad was scheduled to fly to London for business on dates which coincided with my holidays, and he offered to take me along as a learning experience. Alas, time played spoilt sport, as arranging a visa at short notice was not possible.

Hong Kong was an alternative option, but we figured it'd be livelier when everything was actually open, post Chinese New Year. I was starting to give up on finding suitable destinations when I stumbled upon an offer from Lufthansa: they were offering $75 off on all flights, originating from numerous Asian countries, including Singapore and Indonesia. Of course, this discount seemed negligible for long haul flights, but LH fly to Jakarta as a tag on to their Munich to Singapore service, and the voucher could make a substantial dent in the airfare.

I was initially shocked when the website churned out a fare of $857 on my dates. But after messing around on their Singapore and Indonesia webpages, I booked two one way tickets, which brought down the grand total to much more comprehendible sum of $150 per passenger - the cheapest among the 12 carriers and 38 flights plying this route daily! I had to repeat the process two more times, for my mum and sister. The whole task was a logistical nightmare, but in the end, I had 6 confirmed bookings and that's what mattered! This all took place on the evening of January 1 - what a way to kickstart the new year!   

The Lufthansa website is very good. It's clean, simple, easy to use and allows seat selection during the booking process. I believe it was recently redesigned. 


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The last time I flew Lufthansa (before this trip) was back in 2005, when I lived in India. They were our preferred airline for flights to the U.S. and I still reminisce the scenes and sights of those late night departures from BLR. However, I haven't had an opportunity to travel with them since I moved to Singapore, so I was doubly excited about revisiting an old friend. 

A few days before our anticipated departure, a shadow of doubt was cast over our trip as Jakarta's cyclical flood warning was brought to our attention. Given the non refundable nature of our tickets, we had nothing to lose, and were therefore open to canceling hours before departure if conditions deteriorated. I checked the weather forecast, travel advisories and local newspapers regularly, and thankfully, everything looked fine, so we proceeded as planned.

I checked in online when check in opened 23 hours prior to departure (yes, 23 hours. 24 hours is a bit too early for LH, it seems!). Unexpectedly, the website gave me the option of checking in additional passengers traveling under separate bookings, which was a much appreciated feature.  
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On the morning of the 23rd, I checked to see if the flight from Munich was on time, and indeed, it was. We left our home in central Singapore at 3.45pm and took a cab to Changi Airport's Terminal 2. Traffic flowed smoothly and we were curbside by 4.10pm.


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The terminal was not very crowded, and check in at LH's small set up in Aisle 2 was quick, with no queues. The flight was not full, but unfortunately, I would have a seat mate.  
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Emigration was quick. Terminal 2 seems pretty dull compared to Terminal 3, and the recently renovated Terminal 1. It could certainly use a lot more natural light, though it is still much better than some other airport terminals I have encountered. I wasn't in the mood to run around the airport or between terminals, so I got a myself a drink, took a seat next to the large windows overlooking runway 02/20, and relaxed until boarding time approached. The weather outside continued to look grim, as it'd been all day.


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She's early!


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The 777-300ER is an incredible plane - she's got the beauty and the brains!


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And IndiGo is a remarkable young Indian carrier.


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There was one.


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Big Mamma has arrived from Frankfurt.


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And then there were two!


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At 5.20pm, I made my way over to gate E4. The terminal was not very crowded and it seemed like many flights, particularly long haul ones, were cancelled. And then it clicked: 23rd January was the day of Chinese New Year! Suddenly the unusual sparsity all made sense.   

In the midst of my epiphany, I walked into an inflow of Europeans arriving from the Frankfurt flight, but I made it to the gate without being trampled to death. An ever growing queue had formed outside security. It looked like only 30-40 passengers from FRA would continue to CGK


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There was ample seating for everyone at the gate. I watched the LH778 cabin crew disembark. I swear there must've been at least 30 of them - they just kept coming! Boarding started at 5.40pm for First Class & families with little kids (carrying a baby doll might be beneficial in such circumstances), followed by Business Class & passengers with status, and finally, us peasants, by row numbers. This was followed in an orderly manner and I was soon at the door of a Lufthansa flight for the first time in seven years.


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D-AIGO


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MONDAY, 23 JANUARY 2012
LUFTHANSA
FLIGHT# LH790
MUNICH [MUC] to SINGAPORE [SIN] to JAKARTA [CGK]
Scheduled Dep: 1800, Actual Dep: 1815 [15 Minutes late]
Scheduled Arr: 1850, Actual Arr: 1847 [3 Minutes early]
AIRBUS A340-313X [D-AIGO/"Offenbach"] ECONOMY CLASS


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"Good afternoon, across and to the right please".
Flight attendants throughout the aisle greeted me as I walked to seat 32K in the main Y cabin. Business class looked the same as it did when I flew it years ago. Economy, less so. Lufthansa have reupholstered the seats from grey to navy blue, and of course installed personal TV's, which were long overdue. 

I was handed a headset as I marched down the narrow aisle. Initial impressions of the seat were generally favorable. Legroom was excellent (and I'm 6'2"!) despite the presence of the IFE unit. The seat felt hard at first, but I quickly got used to it. I absolutely love Lufthansa's color scheme - it’s certainly among the top five in the industry in my opinion. The dark blue, grey and yellow complement each other very well and are easy on the eyes. They immediately make the environment comforting.


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Boarding was wrapped up at five to six, as the captain made a largely inaudible speech. We pushed back thereafter, and our engines spooled to life. Soon, we were all set to go and made a steady taxi to runway 02C, while my seat mate, a middle aged Singaporean man, and the crew, tried to determine if my seat mate's two and a half year old kid was allowed sit in his mommy's lap for takeoff. He could not, and once it was all sorted, we were already lining up on the runway.  


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F32 is one of few gates at SIN being converted from a one-widebody to a two-narrowbody parking space, to cope with an increase in regional traffic.


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And that means I've spotted 3/3 A380 carriers flying to SIN today.

Meanwhile, I was under the impression Lufthansa have on board camera's, but I could not locate these on the IFE system. Perhaps they are an A380 only feature?
Much to my surprise, we had absolutely no departure queue and performed a rolling takeoff. We thundered down the runway, airborne at 6.15pm. I was pleasantly surprised as it felt moderately powerful - these CFM56 engines seem to have shunned their reputation of being hairdryers. Or maybe it was just my imagination.

Takeoff Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvMvJB-eHZ8

As we climbed to our cruising altitude of 34,000 feet, I overheard the loud conversation between the flight attendant and the passenger seated in the exit row. She had worked intra European flights for the past six years and this was her first run to Singapore and Jakarta, though she would not get to stay in Indonesia. Exciting job.  
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When the seatbelt sign went off, the first officer provided us with some more details of the flight. We would arrive from the west, ahead of schedule, and weather conditions were fair, 28C. Within minutes, the crew came around with little snack boxes. These consisted of a cold chicken & lettuce sandwich, a pastry, a small kit-kat, a bottle of water and a towelette. 


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The sandwich was not bad, and the pastry was acceptable. The light meal did it's job and filled a portion of my stomach until dinner. LH has faced a lot of criticism for not serving a full, hot meal on this segment like GA does, but I think given the departure time and the number of passengers onboard, this is an acceptable alternative. I presume some of it also has to do with culture as this sector is akin to an intra European flight in terms of duration. 

Now entertainment wise, Lufthansa's 'Media World' does a decent job. These newly installed PTV's feature about 30 films (a more extensive catalog is available to business and first class customers), a handful of TV Shows and a reasonable choice of music and games. It is by no means as comprehensive as Emirates' ICE or Singapore Airlines' new Krisworld, but it is more than enough to keep one entertained on an intercontinental journey.


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My selection this evening was 'Green Lantern', and honestly, I couldn't bear it for long - complete garbage. So I switched over to the airshow, and enjoyed nature’s own IFE offering: the window to the world outside.  
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Once the snack boxes were cleared away, I strolled to the back of the plane, where the flight attendants were busy cleaning up. Interestingly, there are no restrooms at the rear, despite the large space. The load tonight looked alright, about 75% full.


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The restroom was small, but clean. It lacked any amenities, which was okay since I wasn’t planning to beautify myself in the lavatory of an A340. At 6.10pm Western Indonesian Time, we commenced our descend. It was dark below the clouds, and faint lights began to appear. For a few minutes, I had my heart in my mouth as we cruised at just 2000 feet with no flaps, despite being a good 20 minutes away from the airport, though once I heard the landing gear being deployed, my life stopped flashing before my eyes.   


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At 6.41pm, we flung ourselves onto runway 25R. A woman screamed. A lot of “whoaaa”’s. We shot back in the air, and some six seconds later, we came down again. Harder.    I'm still amazed the plane remained intact. Once we rolled off the active, it was a quick taxi to the furthest gate at Terminal 2E, where we were on blocks at 6.45pm.


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I said goodbye to the crew in my flawless German, walking past the Business and First class cabins, which looked like they had remained unoccupied for the most part. The old First Class is.. old. However, the new product makes LH a good competitor. J, though, is in dire need of a revamp.

Once I got off the plane, it was a mad dash to immigration. I’ve heard horror stories of people standing in line for hours, so I was delighted that the visa on arrival procedure took just minutes. It was amusing to walk right past the crazy lines for Indonesian residents. 

The baggage delivery system on the other hand could use some serious improvement. My suitcase made it out at 8.35pm, after which I had to join the long line for what was frankly, an unnecessary hand baggage inspection. During my wait, I noticed a healthy mix of baggage tags originating from FRA, MUC and SIN


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Since it was a national holiday in Indonesia as well, the ride to the Four Seasons Jakarta was quick - just 35 minutes. Hotel rates in this city are incredible. I never imagined I'd see a room at a Mandarin Oriental go for $150 a night (even lower at corporate rates!).

So.. what can I say about Lufthansa? Well, it’s changed a lot since I last flew them. With the new entertainment system and seats, they are finally keen on keeping up with the times. While they are nowhere near as fancy or gimmicky as Singapore Airlines or Emirates, they do offer a good product on the whole. Throughout the journey, I never once felt they lacked in any aspect. 

The service was friendly and professional - none of the “you sit to ze left, you sit to ze right, you do your seatbelt up with wun klik” stereotype made famous by Pam Ann. Despite the flight being just 1 hour 20 minutes, everything ran like clockwork. From the moment I boarded to the moment I left, the entire experience was like a well oiled machine. Service was never rushed nor stagnant. The meal wasn't a feast, but it wasn't paltry either. The entertainment options weren't world class but there was enough to keep you at bay. In essence, nothing was extravagant - everything was provided in just the right amounts. I would not think twice about flying them on longer flights, but only if the price is right. Well done Lufthansa!   

Part 2 will be up soon. In the meantime, your questions, comments, compliments and/or criticisms are welcome. And Gong Xi Fa Cai!  

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Previous Trip Reports (Listed Chronologically)
1. MI To Penang
2. DL 777-200LR BusinessElite, Singapore to Tokyo
3. The Emirates Experience: Part 1 [SIN-CMB, EK349]
4. The Emirates Experience: Part 2 [CMB-SIN, EK348]

11 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3270 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6443 times:

Thanks Manek for posting that - nice that LH still does some short hops in Asia. Good for them that they can manage a 75% load, although maybe not for very large fares. I'm desperate now to get back to Asia!


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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6205 times:

Hi,
good report on LH's A340. You've managed some great pics, despite the weather. I love the new A340 interiour, and the 2-seaters are very comfortable when travelling with a partner. Good job, definitely LH is among the best in Europe, good to see that also the Asian people like them.

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6160 times:

Hi!

Nice report of LH's "short-longhaul" product!
I'm flying their A380 in a month or so, so it was nice to read a little of what to expect. I believe the seat you had is pretty much the same as in their A380's. And as you I know LH has cameras on their A380's, but I have no clue about their other aircrafts.

Martin


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5100 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5900 times:

Thanks for the report on this what I call (patented) FFR   ... I actually think LH has improved significantly in Economy and your experience testifies this. However, as you say:

Quoting ManekS (Thread starter):
J, though, is in dire need of a revamp.

I have encountered better J class in obscure airlines around the world.

Thanks for sharing.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlinenuesen From Germany, joined Dec 2011, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5828 times:

Thanks for nice report!
One question: what does SQP printed on your BP mean? SQ passenger or SQ premium?

Thanks!


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5605 times:

Great report, I do understand LH is an exotic airline where you guys live.
2 years ago I flew with the 747-400 from FRA to CGK via SIN. While the flight was full til SIN, it was desperetly light load to CGK. On the way back I took the 747 from CGK to SIN, but then had to connect to the A340 to MUC, and then from there to FRA (was cheaper than taking the 747 all way long, and definitely more fun).

Sad that the 747 is gone in CGK, it was a common sight there. 15 years ago when I was living in CGK I already flew the LH 747 home for the summer holidays when I was a kid!


User currently offlineManekS From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

Thank you for the comments.  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Thanks Manek for posting that - nice that LH still does some short hops in Asia. Good for them that they can manage a 75% load, although maybe not for very large fares. I'm desperate now to get back to Asia!

Hi Gabriel,
Yes, it's always nice to have airlines from different continents doing short intra-asian routes. Indeed, the load didn't seem too bad.. it probably makes enough money to justify the tag on.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Hi,
good report on LH's A340. You've managed some great pics, despite the weather. I love the new A340 interiour, and the 2-seaters are very comfortable when travelling with a partner. Good job, definitely LH is among the best in Europe, good to see that also the Asian people like them.

Regards
Eric

Hello Eric,
Thanks for the kind words. As you noted, the interior is fantastic, and I find the 2-4-2 configuration more comfortable than the 3-3-3, or 3-4-3. Lufthansa have made themselves a much more attractive option with their latest product offerings, and continue to be one of Europe's most reliable carriers.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
Hi!

Nice report of LH's "short-longhaul" product!
I'm flying their A380 in a month or so, so it was nice to read a little of what to expect. I believe the seat you had is pretty much the same as in their A380's. And as you I know LH has cameras on their A380's, but I have no clue about their other aircrafts.

Martin

Hi Martin,
Indeed, it is great to fly widebody planes on short haul routes. I still have to find out what the deal is with the camera's, but it is a very nice feature to have. Where are you jetting off to? I look forward to reading about your experience.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 4):
Thanks for the report on this what I call (patented) FFR   ... I actually think LH has improved significantly in Economy and your experience testifies this. .. I have encountered better J class in obscure airlines around the world.

Hello Abrelosojos,
Lufthansa economy class is certainly more bearable now than it was a few years ago. The Business Class though, continues to remain subpar. I hope they roll out their new J class quickly across the fleet.

Quoting nuesen (Reply 5):
Thanks for nice report!
One question: what does SQP printed on your BP mean? SQ passenger or SQ premium?

Thanks!

Hi nuesen,
While I am not sure what the 'P' stands for, SQP refers to my frequent flyer status with SQ.


Quoting reifel (Reply 6):
Great report, I do understand LH is an exotic airline where you guys live.
2 years ago I flew with the 747-400 from FRA to CGK via SIN. While the flight was full til SIN, it was desperetly light load to CGK. On the way back I took the 747 from CGK to SIN, but then had to connect to the A340 to MUC, and then from there to FRA (was cheaper than taking the 747 all way long, and definitely more fun).

Sad that the 747 is gone in CGK, it was a common sight there. 15 years ago when I was living in CGK I already flew the LH 747 home for the summer holidays when I was a kid!

Hi reifel,
Thanks for the compliment. Rather than exotic, it's more the notion that LH is associated with long flights to distant lands that gets most people excited..   Also, trip reports of its flights to/from this region are uncommon, unlike Singapore Airlines, Qantas, Cathay Pacific, etc which pop up every week. CGK seems to depend heavily on the SIN tag.. it needs a steady feed from both MUC and FRA, as well as a fair bit of traffic from SIN, to sustain itself. It is a shame to see the era of 747's is slowly coming to an end. While the A380 may be a technical marvel, it is an ugly machine. It is heart breaking when I hear SIN now has more A380 services than it does 747. But I guess progress is change ..  


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 987 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

Thanks for posting, an interesting read!

Those fifth freedom hops in Asia sure are fun, I did KL KUL-CGK in november.

Quoting ManekS (Thread starter):
Of course, this discount seemed negligible for long haul flights, but LH fly to Jakarta as a tag on to their Munich to Singapore service, and the voucher could make a substantial dent in the airfare.

It sure can. And most fifth freedom flights in Aisa are usually pretty affordable anyway.

Quoting ManekS (Thread starter):
The Lufthansa website is very good. It's clean, simple, easy to use and allows seat selection during the booking process. I believe it was recently redesigned. 

LH booking system is very good indeed. Probably one of the best booking systems I've encountered.

Quoting ManekS (Thread starter):
Within minutes, the crew came around with little snack boxes. These consisted of a cold chicken & lettuce sandwich, a pastry, a small kit-kat, a bottle of water and a towelette. 

Seems good enough for the time and duration of the flight. KL does serve a warm meal on KUL-CGK however, but that flight is a small tad longer.


User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

Thanks for the report!!

My first flight ever into Singapore was onboard the LH A340 from MUC, back then the CGK tag.on was done by the FRA 744, I have always had a soft spot for LH, even on European flights, they provide a decent good reliable service, and as you say nothing fancy or gimmicky, they get you from A to B (and onwards to C if needed).

It does what it says on the tin.

When I flew the A340 to SIN, they had the old Economy seats which I found to be really nice, plushy and comfortable, I had a seatmate and never during the 13hrs flight I felt obstructed nor cramped, on the way back I had the whole row to myself so it was even better.

The new economy seat looks nice and fresh but I feel like if you have a seatmate then it would feel cramped... like I did on my Qatar Airways flight to HKG in November.

I guess I would have to fly LH long haul again to see that... hopefully to SIN.

Looking forward to the second part, if possible could you include some pictures of Jakarta? to see what it´s like.

Cheers

MIAspotter.



I think, therefore I don´t fly Ryanair.
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4604 times:

Hi

Great report, thanks for sharing.
I've flown on D-AIGO as well from Miami to Munich back in december 2010. I was seated in 37A
Found the seats to be hard but great legroom, just the IFE box on the side that was starting to get annoying after a few hours! Otherwise great flight
Here is the trip report if interested
Sun, Snow, Rain And ... Lufthansa! (by MSS658 Sep 4 2011 in Trip Reports)

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineManekS From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 9):
.. they get you from A to B (and onwards to C if needed).

It does what it says on the tin.

When I flew the A340 to SIN, they had the old Economy seats which I found to be really nice, plushy and comfortable, I had a seatmate and never during the 13hrs flight I felt obstructed nor cramped, on the way back I had the whole row to myself so it was even better.

The new economy seat looks nice and fresh but I feel like if you have a seatmate then it would feel cramped... like I did on my Qatar Airways flight to HKG in November.

I guess I would have to fly LH long haul again to see that... hopefully to SIN.

Looking forward to the second part, if possible could you include some pictures of Jakarta? to see what it´s like.

Cheers

MIAspotter.


Hi MIAspotter,

  

Having an empty seat next to you does make a big difference. If you do fly LH, I'd love to see a TR from you.   Unfortunately, I took just one picture of Jakarta, as I found it very similar to India, but I'll be sure to put that up for you.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 10):
Hi

Great report, thanks for sharing.
I've flown on D-AIGO as well from Miami to Munich back in december 2010. I was seated in 37A
Found the seats to be hard but great legroom, just the IFE box on the side that was starting to get annoying after a few hours! Otherwise great flight
Here is the trip report if interested
Sun, Snow, Rain And ... Lufthansa! (by MSS658 Sep 4 2011 in Trip Reports)

Greetings
Marc

Hi Marc,
That is a great trip report. It looks like we have a lot of common opinions about LH, and it's nice that you got some pictures from the cockpit as well.  


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