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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13101 times:

Hi dear readers, and welcome to my fourth report of the year. This time I will cover my recent weekend getaway to Frankfurt on Lufthansa, where I met some fellow a.netters. As always the report is accompanied by a lagom amount of pictures that I hope you will enjoy.



Background



One evening in November when I was scanning the forums of the Swedish equivalence to Flyertalk, I found an interesting thread linking to a free Lufthansa voucher code. The offer in question was Lufthansa’s twice-annual voucher giveaway, directed exclusively for members of Inter Nations (whatever that might be). For some reason though the code was made accessible to the public via the link.
With the rather generous discount of €40 it was a no-brainer for me, and I issued the voucher in an instance. However Sweden turned out not to be one of the countries listed in the drop-down menu which meant that the code could not be redeemed for flights originating from the ”Little land of Lagom”. Luckily our dear neighbours in the south turned out to be listed as a supported country, so I quickly began searching for cheap flights from Copenhagen.

After some chats with my friend and fellow a.netter Daniel (LH4532), Frankfurt came to be the most obvious choice as I had long promised Daniel to make a visit some day. The cheap tickets on the route were abundant, and after some discussion we agreed that the 3rd weekend of January (21st–22nd) would be most suited for our schedules. The cheap fares were available on those dates, and after having redeemed the code my flights set me back at just over €60 which in my opinion is a bargain price considering the fact that Lufthansa is one of the best carriers out there.

As luck would have it on those dates, the train tickets from Västerås to CPH turned out to cost a very cheap €14 one way, the equivalent price of the Swebus to ARN. Since I had some SJ vouchers lying around, I booked myself a round trip with the return segment upgraded to 1st Class using SJ Prio points. Since there were no X2000 trains back home to Västerås after 4.29pm I was forced to overnight in Copenhagen. With hotels being very very expensive, I did the rare exception of booking myself a night in a hostel costing only €10. All in all this was a bargain weekend getaway costing me just under €100.




January 21st 2012
– The long way to Frankfurt




After the wonderful times spent in Tallinn and Arlanda the previous weekend, it was time for me get back on the road once again. Following a sleepless night, I woke up at 8am sharp from the sound of my alarm clock. I slowly dragged myself out of bed and hopped in for a piping hot shower as the morning sunshine peacefully brought me back to life. After a quick gathering up of my belongings, I headed down for the kitchen to savour the hearty breakfast my mom had prepared for me.

In the midst of my pancake feeding frenzy, I received a notification on my iPhone telling me that my connecting train to Norrköping had been delayed by 90 minutes. This would of course mean that my X2000 connection would be missed, and the next train would arrive in Copenhagen only 30 minutes before my flight. Fearing the worst, I picked up the phone and called SJ (Swedish Railway Company) costumer service. I was served by a friendly young male on the other line, and after providing him with my booking details and flight departure, he saw no other choice then to have a taxi pick me up from my house and deliver me all the way to Norrköping just in time for catching the next X2000 to Malmö. I thanked the man, and headed out to my doorstep where the taxi arrived after just 10 minutes.

At 12.15am I was dropped off at Norrköping Central Station. I thanked the taxi driver and headed inside to have my tickets re-booked at the SJ counter. The friendly lady manning the counter conducted the formalities in a breeze, and soon my X2000 train bound for Malmö (had to transfer to the local train to CPH) rolled in to the platform.



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A very smooth and comfy ride in 2nd Class on this ”high-speed” train.




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My status privileges on SJ gave me free wifi and coffee.



Following the comfortable and surprisingly smooth 4 hour X2000 ride, I finally arrived at Kastrup Airport. The time was now 4.35pm, 90 minutes after my scheduled time of arrival which meant that I would be given a full refund on my ticket.


Check-in



Very soon, I made my way up the escalators and into the main departures and arrivals hall of Terminal 3 where I quickly located the SAS Self-Service check-in machines. Since I had done OLCI the previous day, printing out the boarding pass was done in a matter of seconds.



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The SAS SSCI machines nicely lined up in the departures hall.




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My ”grocery shop receipt” BP promptly served. I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.



After having printed out my floppy ”grocery shop receipt” BP, I headed straight for the security screening where my BP was thoroughly inspected by an officer. Without saying a single word to me, he pulled the ribbon and welcomed me to use the fast track lane which I thought was very strange. Perhaps it must’ve been my lowball *S status that the man had mistaken for something higher. Nevertheless, the regular line looked like a complete zoo and I very much appreciated this kind gesture. Of course this is not something I would expect in the future.

The security screening however was not a breeze. For the first time in years I got the unlucky beep when passing though the detector, despite conducting my usual procedures. I’m suspecting the detectors they use in CPH are a lot more sensitive, and may have been triggered by the silver buttons and riveting in my Nudie Jeans (I’ve never had any problems with my Nudies in the past).
So I was forced to stand on the podium while getting publicly molested by a bald man whose fingers came dangerously close to my manly parts. To make matters worse my cellphone had somehow fallen down under the X-Ray machine, and it took a lot of discussions with the security staff to get it back.


Airside at Kastrup Airport



Unlike a certain dutchman I managed to stay calm during this whole process, and soon I was released into the tax-free store as I entered the airside area.



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Airside at Kastrup Airport. The place looks really nice, I must say.



With the SAS Business Class mileage snafu a few weeks earlier, my Star Alliance Gold status had yet not been achieved and being just 900 miles short I was very frustrated in the days prior to this trip. I saw no point in picking a fight with the lounge staff, after Petteri Finn’s brutal rejection a few years ago (nowadays the dragons fall to the ground as he salutes them with his signature hat gesture every time he makes his entrance to the lounge). I figured that Starbucks would make up a good lounge substitute, but sadly the place was packed and the seating was rather poor. Even worse were the prices listed on the board, absolutely absolutely unjustifiably overpriced. I’m sorry, this is all China’s fault. At the end it was just better to sit down at a bench and spend the remaining hour reading my copy of TIME Magazine (also courtesy of the man with the hat).



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What’s the point of paying for Starbucks if you’re forced to sit on uncomfy chairs!?



At 6.15pm I began heading over to gate B7 where my flight to Frankfurt would depart from.


LH831 Copenhagen CPH – Frankfurt FRA



Flight: LH831 CPH-FRA

Departure: 18.50

Arrival: 20.25

Duration: 1h 35m

Date: January 21st 2012

Seat & Class: 26A (moved to 34A) Economy Class

Aircraft & Reg: Airbus A321-231 D-AISK




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View of the gate area at B7. Place was not much crowded.



As the clock had ticked its way to 6.25pm, the boarding call was made over the PA welcoming Business Class passengers and Star Golds to board the plane at their leisure, followed by families with children and people seated at the back rows. For some reason though people just flooded the boarding gate, but with the load being very light this evening it wasn’t a major issue. Being seated at row 26, I managed to be one of the first passengers to board. My BP was promptly scanned before being released down the jetway.



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Boarding this near four year old A321 from door 1L.



Upon entering the aircraft, I was greeted by a friendly male purser who promptly directed me down the aisle. Despite this machine being almost four years old, the interior was in immaculate condition. The aircraft was fitted with the ”Neue Ekonomie Klasse” or NEK interior, and the cabin linings were of the latest version, indicating that this aircraft was indeed one of the later production models. Soon, I found my way to my seat at row 26 on the A side.



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My exit row seat 26A.




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Very generous legroom thanks to the exit door.



Sadly though, as I sat down in 26A I noticed that the row was missing a window. I do tend to get very claustrophobic when seated at windowless rows (or the mid section of a widebody for that matter), so I quickly moved to seat 34A once boarding was completed.



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Excellent legroom at the standard seats as well!



My first impressions of the NEK seats were very positive. They were not as hard and uncomfortable as expected, seat cushion felt pretty much like the same as on any other slimline Recaro seat, although the lumbar support was slightly on the hard side, but nothing that affected the overall comfort negatively. The leather was plush, and soft, much nicer then on the old seats where the leather felt more like processed rubber. Overall impression of the seats was very good, and I could easily manage a 4+ hour flight in them.



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Closeup of the headrest cover. Yes that leather is far from faux!



Soon the aircraft doors were closed, after which pushback followed shortly. CFM-56 engines hummed to life as the aircraft began its taxi towards the runway. The co-pilot came over to introduce himself over the PA system, flight time was announced at one hour and five minutes. This was followed by a manual safety demonstration conducted by the crew. The aircraft soon lined up on the runway and performed a powerful takeoff, which was quite expected considering the light load and short duration of the flight.

After a number of turns to the left, and the right, the aircraft continued climbing to its cruising altitude as we set course towards Frankfurt. There was some quite severe turbulence throughout the flight, but that didn’t keep the crew from conducting the usual in-flight service formalities which is perhaps the main reason why I love this airline so much. The carts were rolled out almost immediately after the seatbelt sign had been switched off, and soon the two friendly female pursers serving the aft section reached my row.

Quickly and promptly a sandwich was placed on my table, few words used nor needed, just a smile and a ”thanks”. Shortly afterwards the drinks cart came by, and I requested a glass of that exquisitely fruity Pinot Blanc wine they serve on Lufthansa. Very surprised did I become when I was asked for a second drink to go along. This isn’t exactly anything I expect when flying Economy Class, and quite frankly this fabulous airline impressed me once again! I settled for my usual diet coke which was served in a can, as opposed to the regular coke which was poured from big bottles.



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A generous serving of beverages to go along with the hearty snack.



The sandwich turned out to be a very delicious egg salad on rye bread. I’m particularly a big fan of rye bread as it’s very healthy, filling, and good for the stomach. The sandwich was just about the right size to be called a proper one, and not miniatures like they served on LX. Bread tasted very nice and fresh, not overly dry as rye bread often can be. Egg salad was in interesting filling which seemed to fit in quite well. I was offered 2nd servings on the sandwich as well, which left me very stuffed.

The remainder of the flight was very uneventful. I ordered in a second glass of wine, put the seat in a slightly reclined position, and enjoyed some mellow tunes on my iPhone. Very soon the nose was tipped downwards, and the crew came around to collect the trash, followed by preparations for landing. Only minutes after the seatbelt had been turned on, the co-pilot came over the blower to inform us that we would have a very bumpy approach down to Frankfurt. This turned out to be very true, as the aircraft instantly plunged into a thick storm cloud with severe turbulence. The turbulence was in fact very very strong, as the aircraft was thrown to all sides violently. It was even more violent then on my SAS flight a few weeks earlier. Although this time, I had full trust in the pilot throughout whole ride.

Soon our A321 emerged from the thick cloud, and the city lights of Frankfurt became visible from down below. Minutes later we lined up towards the runway at FRA for our final approach. During the approach we overflew the entire airport, passing by all the terminals, hangars and buildings, offering some very spectacular views. I’m suspecting that we landed of the ”Polderbaan” of FRA as I have never experienced this approach before. Moments later, the aircraft made a hard touchdown followed by some even harder breaking. Reverse thrusts were applied to maximum.



The evening in Frankfurt




Upon retrieving my bag from the overhead, I noticed Daniel had sent me a text about our meeting spot. His instructions were very clear and thorough, a first good impression of the German efficiency. As I was seated at the rear cabin, I was allowed to leave the aircraft from the back door. Outside a bus was waiting to take us to the A terminal, since this aircraft was parked at the B gates, presumably continuing its way to LHR. Busride was short, and after following Daniel’s instructions I headed for the Fernbahnhof which was very well-signed and easy to find. Again, the German efficiency was proven to exist. I really don’s see why our Venezuelan friend hates Frankfurt so much (okay to be fair, the place was really empty).

Following an efficient 5 minute walk, I finally arrived to the Starbucks near the ICE-station, where Daniel was already waiting for me. After the usual meet and greet, we headed over to the DB Lounge where Daniel was kind enough to burn one of his vouchers for my visit, just as a slight consolation for my *G snafu. Thanks a lot man!



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View of the DB Lounge at Frankfurt Airport.



The Lounge was far from airline standard, heck even lower standard than the SJ Lounge we have at home. Seating areas were plenty full, and we soon found ourselves some comfy seaters by a table, where we settled down for the evening. Only offerings were a soda fountain and a coffee machine of the artificial kind, no snacks or food. It may seem poor, but to be honest any lounge will do over having to wait in public areas. And of course with some good company it wasn’t much to bother about anyway. We spent a grand total of two hours gossiping and chatting, before being forced to leave as the lounge closes at 10pm.

A couple of days prior, Johannes (Luxair747SP) offered to join us for our short meet in FRA. With his flight from Istanbul arriving at 10.10pm, we agreed to meet up at the Hooters Restaurant around 10.30pm. Daniel and I decided to head for Hooters right away, to have some drinks while waiting for Johannes. After some chats and margaritas we looked at the clock to see it already well past 10.30pm, and Johannes was nowhere to be seen.

Following a phone call made by Daniel revealed that Johannes flight had been delayed, and it would be very uncertain whether we would have any time to meet him since we had an ICE train to catch shortly after 11pm. But in the end, we chugged our Margaritas and headed for the arrivals hall to make a try in catching him. After some tense full waiting, we finally spotted Johannes coming running towards us.

With only minutes before our ICE would depart, we only had time for a meet&greet and some brief chats, as we walked back towards the Fernbahnhof I was positively surprised to hear about his good experiences on TK. Soon Johannes took his turn towards the parking building, where he was reunited with the rest of his family. Daniel, and I bid him adieu as we continued our walk towards the ICE tracks. On our way we decided to stop by a LH SSCI machine to pick up the boarding pass for tomorrows flight back home to Copenhagen.

At 11.08pm sharp, our ICE train bound for Mannheim departed. We soon found ourselves some comfy seats in the restaurant car, but we decided to move as they didn’t allow people to eat their brought-on food there (I had purchased a take-away Hooters Burger for dinner). The 30 minute ride went quick, as I was busy stuffing myself with those 450grams of meat while at the same time having a conversation with Daniel. It was tricky, but manageable at the end. Upon our arrival in Mannheim, we were picked up by Daniel’s parents at the station who then drove us back to their house, where the night was to be spent.



January 22nd 2012
– The German mini-tour




After a great night’s sleep and a hearty breakfast, we left the house again at 11am the following morning. Daniel’s father insisted in having me taken on a tour around the town of Ludwigshafen, and despite Daniel being slightly reluctant in his father’s choice of car, we set off out to the empty streets. Ludwigshafen may perhaps not have been one of the most fascinating cities I’ve visited. But hearing Daniel’s father tell the stories behind literally every building we passed by made the tour very interesting.

On our way back home two hours later, Daniel and I stopped by a local American Diner for some sunday lunch or brunch if you may call it. Feeling rather fed up on meet after last night’s dinner, I decided to go for the American Blueberry Pancakes, whereas Daniel went for the classic Milkshake&Burger combo. After the very heavy lunch, we stumbled back to Daniel’s house to gather up my belongings, before being driven by Daniel’s father to the ICE station in Mannheim to catch my 2.35pm high-speed train to Frankfurt Airport. I quickly said goodbye to Daniel, promising that I would be back in Germany very soon again. 15 minutes later, I was dropped off at the ICE station in Mannheim.



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The long journey back home starts here. At Mannheim Station.



With some 15 minutes to kill before my train would depart, I decided to explore the surrounding areas of the station, before heading back inside and make my way over to track 3, which conveniently was stated on my ticket. Again, the german efficiency is playing its part very well here.

At 2.35pm sharp, my sleek and shiny white ICE Generation 3 High-Speed train arrived to the platform. Since I was traveling on a sunday, the train was rather packed with people but I soon managed to find myself a comfortable pair of seats in one of the 2nd Class cars.



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Interior view of the ICE train. Much nicer then the X2000 we have at home.



Soon the train started to roll, making its 80 kilometre dash to the airport. I was quite disappointed that the train didn’t reach its top-speed of 320 km/h, instead it just lurked its way at a slow 180 km/h despite the tracks being dead straight. Suppose this High-Speed thing is just an euphemism for ”trains with slightly enhanced speeds”. The conductor later came by and conducted a very strict and through inspection of my ticket. Basically the asked to have the ticket scanned, my VISA card swiped, and my passport to be inspected. Never experienced that before, but again the german efficiency is playing its part here.

At 3.05pm the train pulled in at Fernbahnhof, precisely 90 minutes prior to my departure for Copenhagen. Since I already had my boarding pass in hand, I headed straight for the security, after having made my way through the long tunnels connecting the terminal to the railway station.



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The iconic Terminal 1 departures hall at Frankfurt



Upon reaching the security check, I found the place not to be crowded at all. 5 regular lanes for Y pax, and one fast track lane for *G and premium pax. Funny enough the fast track lane was overcrowded, whereas the Y lanes were completely deserted. For some reason, a man with an FTL tag hanging on his trolley was picking a fight with the agents for why they refused to let him enter the fast track. To be honest I’m just wondering what point this idiot tries make wasting his and other people’s time by blocking the fast track gate when he could’ve just used the regular one that would’ve gotten him though faster. Now I really understand why our Venezuelan friend keeps ranting about how chaotic the security at FRA is.

Nevertheless, I made the beeline over to the regular lane and passed with flying colours. Sadly though, as I was about to pick up my bag and leave, one of the agents insisted in having me taken for an additional screening. I begged and pleaded that my flight was leaving soon, but the agents refused to listen.

So I was taken aside to a special corner where the agent opened up the camera compartment of my bag to swipe a tiny piece of paper over the back of my DSLR. He soon disappeared into a booth, before shortly giving me the thumbs up. ”That’s it?”, I though. The screening was done in less then a minute, and my camera didn’t even have to be taken out of the bag. I really couldn’t understand why our friend Eric get so annoyed by this. Maybe it’s the security staff in AMS being much ruder? With some 45 minutes to go before boarding would start, I decided to head over to my gate A23 for some spotting.


Airside at FRA




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Airside view of the A gates at FRA. Just look how simple and clean this place is. All the overpriced s**t associated with airports is pushed aside to somewhere so you can’t see them.



There’s just something I love about FRA. It’s the cleanness, the great spotting opportunities from the windows, the way Lufthansa mark their presence with having their giant logos placed on every wall both on the inside and the outside of the terminal, and the fact that there aren’t so many tax-free stores and overpriced cafés. This is truly the way an airport should be!

Soon, I made my way over to gate 23 where I found myself a nice table with some good views of the action on the apron. Since Dallmayr coffee and Lufthansa are part of an advertising alliance, Dallmayr have placed coffee vending machines around the terminal for the passengers to use free of charge. I recon that this is a great way for a company to market themselves, hence keeping the passengers from mortgaging their houses on buying overpriced coffee from the cafés. I doubt LH would ever have gotten the thought to provide free coffee to the pax, if not for Dallmayr subsidising it heavily in exchange for the advertisement.



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The coffee machines. Along with the nice tables at the gates, it was basically like a lounge in its simplest form. Sufficient enough for me to spend the 30 minutes prior to boarding.




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Free literature provided as well. Sadly as this wasn’t a real lounge, they didn’t have Newsweek. So I passed.




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I settled with a regular coffee and milk. Despite being instant coffee dispensed from a machine it tasted pretty good. It was free so no point in complaining.



I settled with a cup of coffee while watching the action on the apron for some 30 minutes before boarding was called for my flight, at 4.05pm sharp.



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Oh well, I guess I’ll see you next time!



LH830 Frankfurt FRA – Copenhagen CPH



Flight: LH831 FRA-CPH

Departure: 16.35

Arrival: 18.10

Duration: 1h 35m

Date: January 22nd 2012

Seat & Class: 36A Economy Class

Aircraft & Reg: Airbus A321-231 D-AIDJ



The load for this flight appeared to be the same as on the outbound flight, perhaps the A321 is too big for this route. With Lufthansa being on the forefront when it comes to innovations (up yours SAS), the gate was manned by one sole agent who made sure that the self-service boarding worked as it should. I quickly lined up at one of the four boarding gates, and within less then a minute I was on my way down the jetway. The self-service boarding worked very efficient, as it both saves time for the passenger and money for the airline since less staff is required to mann the gates.

What I found quite interesting was the fact that two jetways were used for this A321, it felt almost like boarding a long haul flight. So I took the opportunity to use the jetway connected to door 1L, despite not being seated in Business Class. At the door, I was greeted by a friendly male purser who kindly directed me down the aisle to my seat at the 36th row.



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Cabin during boarding. Very nice and clean looking NEK seats.



Soon I found my way to my seat at the A side on row 36. Legroom was the same as on the outbound flight, and as expected the cabin was immaculate condition.



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As mentioned, the flight was very empty. Only a handful of other passengers were seated at the rear section of the cabin.



As boarding was completed, the first officer came over the PA welcoming everyone onboard. We were told that there would be some strong turbulence throughout half of the flight. This was followed by pushback and a manual safety demonstration as we taxied to the runway. The takeoff as expected was very powerful.



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Takeoff!



Following takeoff was a steep climb before levelling off, and slowly continuing our climb to our cruising altitude of 42 000 feet. As expected the flight was very bumpy, which sadly delayed the service as the seatbelt sign remained on until 40 minutes before landing.



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Breaking through the clouds.




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Almost reaching cruising altitude.



As the turbulence had cleared, the crew quickly rolled out the carts to conduct the snack service for this flight. Soon the friendly flight attendant reached my row, and quickly handed me over the snack followed by the drinks cart. Nowadays flying Lufthansa short haul you never really know what you will be served, it could either be a sandwich, hot wrap, salad or chocolate bar. On this flight I was quite glad to be served a salad consisting of kidney beans, feta cheese, black olives, red bell peppers, and grilled zucchini. Along with the salad came a pack of crostini. As usual I opted for the white wine and diet coke combo.



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The very generous meal or ”snack” served for this flight. Free of charge! Wonderful!



The salad tasted very nice and fresh, going perfect with the pinot blanc Lufthansa serve in Economy Class. The crew came around to offer 2nd servings which I gladly accepted. After the trash had been cleared, I requested another glass of wine and spent the short reminder of the flight relaxing and watching the beautiful sunset from the window.



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A very relaxed mood in the cabin on this flight.



Very soon the sun had disappeared behind the horizon, and the nose was tipped downwards. The first officer later came over the PA announcing our landing in Copenhagen would take place in 20 minutes. The crew soon came around to prepare the cabin for landing.

Soon the aircraft made a rough landing, followed by a quick taxi to the Schengen gates at Kastrup Terminal 3. Since my time was limited in Copenhagen, and I wanted to get into to town as fast as possible I rushed out of the aircraft, and bit the crew goodbye on my way out. I quickly made my way out to the arrivals hall and hopped on the metro to Nyhavn where I would be spending the night.



You can’t sleep when you’re cheap!




Since hotels in Copenhagen are filthy filthy expensive, I decided to go for the cheap option and spend the night at a Hostel. I have stayed at a hostel before, and it was a painful experience. However I simply couldn’t justify paying €120 for a hotel room when I would just be spending one night in town. I had managed to find a room at the Generator’s Hostel in Nyhavn for a very reasonable rate of €15 for one night. To my big surprise the rooms were very clean, comfy beds and the linens were included in the price.

My room was shared with a Korean guy, an Indian guy and a guy from San Francisco, all very friendly and calm. However on the other side of the room, a group of american college backpackers were occupying the two bunk beds. For some reason they were in the mood for clubbing, despite it being a sunday night, a time when most people prefer to stay home and relax. Nevertheless, they left rather early at 9pm.

Feeling quite hungry, I headed across the street to a nearby pizza place for some dinner. I opted for a pastrami pizza, setting me back a reasonable €6. I must say that the pizza was perhaps one of the best ones I have ever tasted in my entire life, and not only did it taste good, it was great to look at as well. Stuffed and tired, I headed back to my room at the hostel where everyone else was already asleep, tucked myself in the comfy bed, and fell asleep. At 2am however, the group of american college people came back to the room. As they were obviously still drunk, quite a lot of noise was made waking everyone else including myself up. The loud laughter and chit chatting, combined with the lights being turned on and off made it impossible to fall back asleep. At 3am however the lights were finally turned off, and it seemed like the three of them had fallen asleep.

As I was about to slumber back into the dreamy wonderland, I suddenly began hearing a very distinct rustling noise. I was hoping and praying that it wouldn’t be the sound I suspected it to be, but sadly it was. What followed the sound of rubber being attached to a man’s vegetable was a traumatising cacophony of giggles, dirty talk, loud bed squeaks, and moans. These shamelessly disrespectful barbarians kept on for well over one hour, keeping everyone in the room including myself awake without even realising it themselves. One guy even started making faux coughs as an attempt to make these people stop, but quite frankly the idea of having sex in a room full of strangers just seemed to make those two hit it harder, and harder. At one point it sounded almost as if the bunk bed was about to break apart.

At the tip of dawn this horribly traumatising selfishly disrespectful act of lovemaking had ceased, leaving me and everyone else in the room with a massive sleep deprivation. I am simply stunned that some people have such a lack of morale to justify this barbaric behaviour. Also if those two were planning to have sex in the first place, why the hell didn’t they stay at a hotel since it would cost the same money anyway (but of course, the people in question are of the same kind that fly Ryanair, i.e lacking brain functions to justify analytical thinking and research). Having people snore when sleeping in a hostel is annoying but acceptable, but this was simply on the verge of criminal behaviour. I will most likely not sleep in a hostel at any point in the future, since you simply can’t, never had, and never will be able to get a decent night’s sleep.



Mundane monday, in Copenhagen.




I woke up at 9.30am feeling like a wreck with a massive sleep deprivation. I both looked and felt like a complete mess as I stumbled my way over to the bathroom for an icy cold shower before quickly gathering up my belongings and heading down to the reception to check out. I was kind of regretting spending those €15 on a night at a hostel when I could might as well have spent the night at the bus station.

Soon, I headed out on the streets in search for a nice breakfast place. Sadly all the places stopped serving breakfast at 10am, so I had to settle with an overpriced, and unsubstantial breakfast baggie from 7Eleven. What was even worse was the fact that I was forced to eat it outside in the freezing cold, since the store manager didn’t allow me to stay inside and eat it. I really hate eating in public areas, so after some searching I managed to find myself a quiet alley with a nice bench. Following breakfast was a stroll down Strøget to my favourite Baresso Café, where I spent a few hours reading my copy of TIME and surfing the free wifi on my iPhone, before heading down for the train station to catch my X2000 train back home to Västerås.



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The main hall at Københavns Huvudbangård.



At 4.15pm I arrived at the station, fourteen minutes prior to departure. As luck would have it, the X2000 train was already parked at the platform which is highly unusual for Copenhagen. I quickly boarded the 1st Class car and settled into my mediocrely comfortable seat.



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Boarding this very dated X2000 train back home.




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1st Class seats on the X2000. Not much different from 2nd Class.



Soon the train started rolling, and the friendly conductor came to inspect my ticket. Since I had pre-ordered the three course meal, I requested to have it served around 7pm. It turned out to be fine with him. Moments later, I put the seat in its fully reclined position and fell asleep for a few hours. I was woken up later with the meal tray already placed on my table, along with a diet coke as requested earlier.


Dinner Menu 1st Class SJ X2000 546



Starter: Assorted Italian antipasto


Main Course: Beef á la Lindström with cream stewed potatoes, and pickled cucumbers


Dessert: Chocolate mousse and truffle cake


Bread and butter


A selection of non-alcoholic beverages provided free of charge. Alcohol can be purchased


Coffee or tea




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The rather generous tray of dinner.



While the X2000 may be a tacky, and uncivilised mean of transport where the seats are always broken, toilets flooded, staff is rude, and train always late by three hours. The meals are the one thing that still manage to keep a consistent good quality (they’re made by LSG Skychefs so no wonder). The food tasted very nice and fresh, and despite the somewhat smaller portion sizes due to the new tableware, I was still feeling quite stuffed from the meal. Nothing more to say about it, I’ve had Beef á la Lindström five times so I’ve gotten a bit tired of the dish already. For some reason though it appears to have become SJ’s signature dish. All in all a great meal, especially the dessert.

Soon we arrived at Norrköping where I transferred to the regional train bound for Västerås. The ride was uneventful, and soon I arrived home.



Conclusions




Lufthansa as always managed to deliver an impressive and consistent short haul Economy Class product, by far superior then the competition. In my opinion, flying Lufthansa short haul Y is how all short haul flights should be like. The service was very generous for the duration of the flight, and with food this substantial there’s really not much need for flying EuroBiz (if you’re a *G for instance). All in all, Lufthansa once again managed to show off its better side, and I was left one happy customer.

As for the X2000 there’s not much to say about them other then the fact that they’re perhaps the most unreliable mean of transport on the planet. Transferring to CPH on them is not recommended since you’re most likely to be at least two hours late and miss your flight. If you are flying SAS however there’s not much to worry about, since they will re-book you on to the next flight. I was quite pleased though with the way SJ handled my delay, by instantly sending me a taxi, and no hard feelings about the money they lost on me since they make massive profits anyway.

The 1st Class product on the X2000 appear to have been improved slightly from last time, as they have brought back the dedicated crew, who treat the passengers a bit more friendly. Food was delicious as always, and the seats were in surprisingly good condition. Wouldn’t hesitate to book another trip once a dirt-cheap fare pops up again.




Previous Reports



Feel free to have a look at my previous reports. The reports are categorised chronologically based on their time of publication.


2012

SAS At Their Very Finest! ZRH-ARN, Business (pics) (by lh4116 Feb 2 2012 in Trip Reports)

Swiss Flatbed Business Class: PVG-ZRH +More (pics) (by LH4116 Jan 23 2012 in Trip Reports)

Proper Long Haul – Swiss Made: ARN-PVG Y (pics) (by LH4116 Jan 10 2012 in Trip Reports)

2011

LH Italia, You Won’t Be Missed! ARN-MXP C (pics) (by LH4116 Oct 31 2011 in Trip Reports)

Parisian City Break à La Air France. ARN-CDG Y Rt (by LH4116 Aug 27 2011 in Trip Reports)

Long, Sleek And Still Blue. Finnair B757! (pics) (by LH4116 Aug 5 2011 in Trip Reports)

Off To Norway, On A Classic. ARN-BGO SAS Y (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 30 2011 in Trip Reports)

”Flying It Fake” On SAS, ARN-DLM Rt In ”C” (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 5 2011 in Trip Reports)

Norwegian ARN-GOT Inaugural Flights, Feb 17 (pics) (by LH4116 Feb 25 2011 in Trip Reports)

2010

TAP Portugal, And The Moroccan Travesty (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 15 2010 in Trip Reports)

2009

KLM Y, ARN-AMS R/t + Wonderful Holland (pics) (by LH4116 Oct 30 2009 in Trip Reports)

Trip Report: Train to Gothenburg, 1st Class (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 10 2009 in Non Aviation)

I Give You, SAS At Its Very Best! (pics) (by LH4116 Apr 17 2009 in Trip Reports)


Comments are much appreciated!

//Jonas


SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13053 times:

great report as usual. have to say LH is always very nice on IntraEurope Flights or also long haul

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I doubt LH would ever have gotten the thought to provide free coffee to the pax, if not for Dallmayr subsidising it heavily in exchange for the advertisement.

well not really, they providing this since many many years, I think at least 15 years, before they had Condor Coffee from Peru and before that Juan Valdez (the premimum staff) from Colombia. Also they had years before free sodas dispencers at the gates...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Nowadays flying Lufthansa short haul you never really know what you will be served, it could either be a sandwich, hot wrap, salad or chocolate bar. On this flight I was quite glad to be served a salad consisting of kidney beans, feta cheese, black olives, red bell peppers, and grilled zucchini. Along with the salad came a pack of crostini. As usual I opted for the white wine and diet coke combo.

I have to say I love the concept. would be only interesting how they elect the different combos...

thanks again and cheers
Avianca



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13051 times:

Great report Jonas and nice reading in your style.

Very nice of Daniel to host you and sounded like a grea trip. Love the train aspect also and the meal. Looks like a nice thing to do .

Great photos and look forward to the next TR . Well done on getting or nearly getting ''GREEK'' Gold  

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12935 times:

Hej J,

Swedish railways are insanely civilized (even if unreliable)...If I'm not mistaken they have sent a taxi to Petteri too after a delay that jeopardized one of his flights. Why can't it be like that everywhere? I can only imagine what kind of response one would get if they called the Bulgarian Railways in a similar situation . Great report by the way. Too bad for your unfortunate experience at the hostel. I've had similarly bad experiences in the past.

Glad that you enjoyed LH yet again. It is time that I fly them again sometime soon... They are a lagom airline indeed...

WBodyroga



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4271 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12831 times:

Hello Jonas,

well detailed as usual, pictures come out mostly very nicely.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
welcome to my fourth report of the year.

Addict!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
the fact that Lufthansa is one of the best carriers out there

I would better say, LH is among the best carriers around.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I headed down for the kitchen to savour the hearty breakfast my mom had prepared for me.

Maybe I should call in your place to enjoy your mothers cooked food.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I thanked the man, and headed out to my doorstep where the taxi arrived after just 10 minutes.

Nice service

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
At 12.15am I was dropped off at Norrköping Central Station. I thanked the taxi driver

You tipped him well I guess?  
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.

But you can throw away any kind of BP easily isn't it? The quality of paper doesn't really make a difference imho

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Perhaps it must’ve been my lowball *S status that the man had mistaken for something higher.

Well, *S gives fastrack with M&M, Silver as well with FlyingBlue or BA EC. It's not strange that this man makes this decision. But *S means 'nothing' for you it seems?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Airside at Kastrup Airport. The place looks really nice, I must say.

Yes, CPH is a nice well designed place

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Even worse were the prices listed on the board, absolutely absolutely unjustifiably overpriced. I’m sorry, this is all China’s fault.

Hmm, the prices in Denmark are on par with the salaries overthere, like the prices are in equivalent mode in China. It's fair pricing don't you think?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
What’s the point of paying for Starbucks if you’re forced to sit on uncomfy chairs!?

You pay for the coffee, not for the seat. Most people at Starbucks do take-away btw

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The conductor later came by and conducted a very strict and through inspection of my ticket. Basically the asked to have the ticket scanned, my VISA card swiped, and my passport to be inspected. Never experienced that before, but again the german efficiency is playing its part here.

That's common practise on DB, also mentioned on the ticket regulations. It always goes this way when I travel on their ICE's

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So I was taken aside to a special corner where the agent opened up the camera compartment of my bag to swipe a tiny piece of paper over the back of my DSLR. He soon disappeared into a booth, before shortly giving me the thumbs up. ”That’s it?”, I though. The screening was done in less then a minute, and my camera didn’t even have to be taken out of the bag. I really couldn’t understand why our friend Eric get so annoyed by this

If you read my reports better, you will read that I have NO problems with these checks in Germany. Moreover, I always stated clearly that the security staff in Germany always makes me leaving in good mood. These people are customer friendly, efficient and respect me.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Maybe it’s the security staff in AMS being much ruder?

Indeed, they are. Probably a different backgroud and education.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
(but of course, the people in question are of the same kind that fly Ryanair, i.e lacking brain functions to justify analytical thinking and research).

I don't get this statement. Please explain how you connect their behavior at night (which I also would dislike the way they do it 'in public') with your 'Ryanair thoughts'?

Interesting report in general Jonas, but you know, I cannot agree on quite a lot of statements.

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1730 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12674 times:
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Hello Janos,

Thanks for what is already your 4th report of the year! Nice story and pics and I can think of a big smile on your face when writing about your beloved carrier, the Luftwaffe  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The cheap fares were available on those dates, and after having redeemed the code my flights set me back at just over €60 which in my opinion is a bargain price considering the fact that Lufthansa is one of the best carriers out there.
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
All in all this was a bargain weekend getaway costing me just under €100.

Congrats, that’s an excellent all in formula deal! The couple ‘doing their thing’ in the Copenhagen hostel must’ve been included on this rate?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The time was now 4.35pm, 90 minutes after my scheduled time of arrival which meant that I would be given a full refund on my ticket.

Have you received your refund by now?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.

I’m very glad to see you don’t have a BP fetish as well   

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Unlike a certain dutchman I managed to stay calm during this whole process

  I do believe however this Dutchman you are talking about is generally the relaxed type.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
we agreed to meet up at the Hooters Restaurant around 10.30pm.

Omg, you don’t want to know what happens there when the lights are dimmed...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
As mentioned, the flight was very empty.

That perfectly justifies the need for an A321. ‘German efficiency’ you say somewhere?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The very generous meal or ”snack” served for this flight. Free of charge! Wonderful!

That look nice and tasty indeed so I assume it was?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
(but of course, the people in question are of the same kind that fly Ryanair, i.e lacking brain functions to justify analytical thinking and research)

Hey Jonas, don’t push your statements. I fly FR as well and am perfectly able to think analytic and I do research as well. Even so, I can think so far to realize that FR sometimes happens to offer excellent value for money and there’s nothing wrong with that. You oughtta know!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineLH4532 From Germany, joined Sep 2011, 81 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12322 times:

Hello Jonas ,

Your TR is finally online . It has been worth the time waiting for it . The visit was short but we had the chance of meeting in person for the very first time .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I had long promised Daniel to make a visit some day.

I think we started talking about your visit , while I was still in Canada .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
All in all this was a bargain weekend getaway costing me just under €100.

This is just great , Jonas .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My status privileges on SJ gave me free wifi and coffee.

I might be having status with DB this year .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The SAS SSCI machines nicely lined up in the departures hall.

Very nice and clean picture .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I saw no point in picking a fight with the lounge staff,

I am sure it would have not been worth it .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
. For some reason though people just flooded the boarding gate

That does happen very often . It is entertaining and annoying seeing it happen .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I was greeted by a friendly male purser

That is very good to know . Always a nice start for a flight .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My first impressions of the NEK seats were very positive.

I had the chance of trying the them out in October 2011 when I flew FRA-TXL-FRA . I flew the same route 11 days ago .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
This isn’t exactly anything I expect when flying Economy Class, and quite frankly this fabulous airline impressed me once again! I

I´m only saying one thing : Lufthansa   .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The sandwich turned out to be a very delicious egg salad on rye bread.

I hope I get the same when I fly FRA-CPH in March .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
It was even more violent then on my SAS flight a few weeks earlier.

It could have been worse   .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
His instructions were very clear and thorough, a first good impression of the German efficiency.

Thank you , Jonas . Good to know .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
, we headed over to the DB Lounge where Daniel was kind enough to burn one of his vouchers for my visit, just as a slight consolation for my *G snafu. Thanks a lot man!

You are very welcome . That´s the least I could do .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
We spent a grand total of two hours gossiping and chatting

It was great .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
ut in the end, we chugged our Margaritas and headed for the arrivals hall to make a try in catching him.

But we enjoyed our Margaritas .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
With only minutes before our ICE would depart, we only had time for a meet&greet and some brief chats

The meeting was very short but very nice .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
But hearing Daniel’s father tell the stories behind literally every building we passed by made the tour very interesting.

He will be happy to know about this .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
As usual I opted for the white wine and diet coke combo.

I will try the same combo .



Thank you for writing this Trip Report . I was very surprised to see it online today . It was very nice reading it after a long day of school . Sehr gut gemacht , Jonas .


My next trip to Scandinavia might be booked this Friday   .


Daniel ( LH4532 )


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6577 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12105 times:

Hi Jonas !

Very nice report with nice pictures !

Very nice of SJ to send you in a taxi all the way from Vasteras to Norrkoping!

Flights on LH seem nice but good choice to switch to a row with a proper window seat. Good to know that the flight wasn't full as a full flight on a LH 321 is a very uncomfortable experience; had that a few times and hope never again.

Why on earth would you want to throw away your boarding pass ??? I have saved all of mine since 1989......

I have to agree with Alex; FRA is not a great airport at least not Terminal 1. It's very annoying with all the remote parking and busing and the terminal is a bit confusing with long walks back and forth. CDG is not great either and there's no one to ask and long lines for immigration as well.

AMS is my preferred airport in Europe for a transfer. I just hope they build a KLM Cityhopper pier to get rid of busing altogether.......

Meal on the way back from CPH on the X2000 looks very good!

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3285 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12063 times:

Nice report Jonas - glad you approved of LH!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
All in all this was a bargain weekend getaway costing me just under €100.

Great value

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I was served by a friendly young male on the other line, and after providing him with my booking details and flight departure, he saw no other choice then to have a taxi pick me up from my house and deliver me all the way to Norrköping just in time for catching the next X2000 to Malmö. I thanked the man, and headed out to my doorstep where the taxi arrived after just 10 minutes.

Wow - you certainly don't get service liek that anywhere else in the world. You should probably realise that SJ are really pretty good.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):

My first impressions of the NEK seats were very positive

They're good on short hops, get a bit uncomfortable on longer flights. In C the seats are exactly the same dimesions

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Busride was short, and after following Daniel’s instructions I headed for the Fernbahnhof which was very well-signed and easy to find. Again, the German efficiency was proven to exist. I really don’s see why our Venezuelan friend hates Frankfurt so much (okay to be fair, the place was really empty).

I'm sorry, but FRA is a horrible airport for connections. On arrival, it's ok, but still not the best.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
With Lufthansa being on the forefront when it comes to innovations (up yours SAS), the gate was manned by one sole agent who made sure that the self-service boarding worked as it should. I quickly lined up at one of the four boarding gates, and within less then a minute I was on my way down the jetway. The self-service boarding worked very efficient, as it both saves time for the passenger and money for the airline since less staff is required to mann the gates.

These work well on empty flights, when nothing goes wrong. When flights are full, people push and shove to get to the front - there is no priority boarding now. On my delayed MUC-LHR flight in December, the boarding process was a nightmare - took ages to get everyone on. Lots of seat changes, so people couldn't use the gates, and couldn't move away, or get to the overwhelmed staff. Thumbs down.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
For some reason they were in the mood for clubbing, despite it being a sunday night, a time when most people prefer to stay home and relax. Nevertheless, they left rather early at 9pm.

When you grow up, you'll find that any night is a good night to go out. Live a little! I was out in London yesterday, yesterday being a Monday....

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
You can’t sleep when you’re cheap!

Should have tried couch surfing! Pretty poor behaviour for a dorm though

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The rather generous tray of dinner.

Very nice.



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User currently offlineAlwaysOnAPlane From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2010, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11888 times:

Hi Jonas.

Good for you to get this trip fixed up for such a good price. Mind you, you're the master in being frugal.
Really impressive for the railway to send you a taxi during this delay. Great service.

Yes, LH are very good in this arena, I have no complaints either, I prefer the feel of flying little brother LX though. Maybe it's those chocolates?

The behaviour of the couple in the dorm in Copenhagen is pretty low. They must be into that kind of thing in public?

Really good photos too mate. Some nice out of focus effects and generally great images. You know I love that kind of thing.

Thanks, Lee.


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11838 times:

Hej Jonas!

Great tripreport with awesome pictures as usual!
Nice to see this report up after you mentioned it on our little meet.  
LH's shorthaul product seems nice, cant wait to try it myself in a few weeks. You really scored a bargain with that voucher code! Those NEK seats sure seem thin, but I've heard mostly good words about them so It will be interesting to see how they are like.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The SAS SSCI machines nicely lined up in the departures hall.

Despite flying to and from CPH several times I have never been to CPH landside. Oh well, all in due time i suppose!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So I was taken aside to a special corner where the agent opened up the camera compartment of my bag to swipe a tiny piece of paper over the back of my DSLR. He soon disappeared into a booth, before shortly giving me the thumbs up. %u201DThat%u2019s it?%u201D, I though.

I got a similar check after passing security at LR T3 in June last year, although he didn't even have to go into a booth to check the result he had a machine right there where he stopped me. It was done in just a few seconds after inserting his paper thingy into the machine.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
There%u2019s just something I love about FRA.

Good to see some pics of FRA, when I'm there in a few weeks it will be my first time there. It sure looks like a nice if huge airport!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
On this flight I was quite glad to be served a salad consisting of kidney beans, feta cheese, black olives, red bell peppers, and grilled zucchini

Indeed a nice snack for economy on such a short flight, let's see what the LH shorthaul service lottery will give me on my flighs with them soon!

Martin


User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 426 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11743 times:

hiihhihih Jonas .... I do not know why but I am always in positive mood after reading your trip reports ....
You can’t sleep when you’re cheap! hehehehehehe classic .... nice nice everything is super nice ...stipica  



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11643 times:

Hello Gentlemen, thank you for your replies!

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):
well not really, they providing this since many many years, I think at least 15 years, before they had Condor Coffee from Peru and before that Juan Valdez (the premimum staff) from Colombia. Also they had years before free sodas dispencers at the gates...

I see, yeah remembered back in -06 when they offered the free coffee at the gates, although the machine actually brewed proper coffee rather then just spitting out the instant coffee. Also Biz class got the free soda dispensers. A bit pointless since they've probably had plenty of soda in the lounge already. But in general, I believe these services are provided to some extent as promotional furniture. LH get it cheap in exchange for the advertising.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):
I have to say I love the concept. would be only interesting how they elect the different combos...

Oh yes, it's really a good concept. Much better then the previous one when they only served dry sandwiches. I think they had the frequent flyers in mind when deciding to introduce it.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Very nice of Daniel to host you and sounded like a grea trip. Love the train aspect also and the meal. Looks like a nice thing to do .

We had a great time indeed. I'll be welcoming him to my home in April   The train is quite nice, only sometimes but not always. Meal is nearly up to par with EU biz, such a shame they don't serve free booze.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Great photos and look forward to the next TR . Well done on getting or nearly getting ''GREEK'' Gold  

Hehe, thanks. So far only bad experiences with the A3 call centre, realized how important Gold status is on the airline you actually plan to fly the most. Will might get the Scandinavian Gold this summer instead... In case things go wrong with A3, but I'm still waiting for my miles to show.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
Hej J,

Hi there. Please, call me Jonas  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
If I'm not mistaken they have sent a taxi to Petteri too after a delay that jeopardized one of his flights. Why can't it be like that everywhere?

Oh yes, I was with him when it happened. His train was delayed, and since he would miss his connection they send him a taxi instead. He was flying on SAS though, so they would have just re-booked him to the next flight, and let him spend a night at the Radisson. But P didn't like this outcome and said "I'd rather fly naked", hehe.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 3):
It is time that I fly them again sometime soon... They are a lagom airline indeed...

They are more then just lagom, they're great!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
well detailed as usual, pictures come out mostly very nicely.

Hoi Eric, thanks for reading!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Addict!

*cough*massivebacklog*cough*  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Maybe I should call in your place to enjoy your mothers cooked food.

Well you are always welcome to spend a weekend here, mom can cook up some extra pancakes  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
You tipped him well I guess?  

Hehe, nah in Sweden we don't tip people. Besides he earned some really good money on the drive, roughly €300. Not bad for a saturday  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Well, *S gives fastrack with M&M, Silver as well with FlyingBlue or BA EC. It's not strange that this man makes this decision. But *S means 'nothing' for you it seems?

Silver status in Star Alliance only give perks within the own airline and not *A partners. A3*S give extra baggage allowance on A3 flights, but other then that *S on partner airlines is pretty much the same as flying without status. With Skyteam and OW it's different since they have fewer elite members, and can justify giving them all these perks already at the lowest level of elite status.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
You pay for the coffee, not for the seat. Most people at Starbucks do take-away btw

Depends on how you look at it. But generally café's sell more then just the coffee, they sell the "service" as well, which is the business concept on *Bucks. They claim themselves to sell a premium coffee experience, which in the price includes enjoying some time in the comfy seaters.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Moreover, I always stated clearly that the security staff in Germany always makes me leaving in good mood. These people are customer friendly, efficient and respect me.

You are right about that! Staff in TXL last week were really friendly, and even made jokes about all the mini Jägermeister bottles I had brought in my bag  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
I don't get this statement. Please explain how you connect their behavior at night (which I also would dislike the way they do it 'in public') with your 'Ryanair thoughts'?

It's just a statement based on preconceived notions about backpackers. People who only look for the cheap, and always live under the impression of hostels and LCCs always being the cheap, without even bothering to look for the proper alternatives. It's part of their buyer behavior.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Thanks for what is already your 4th report of the year! Nice story and pics and I can think of a big smile on your face when writing about your beloved carrier, the Luftwaffe  

Can't believe it myself either. I've been spending too much time writing reports lately. I think by the end of the year I'd have written at least 10 reports  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Congrats, that’s an excellent all in formula deal! The couple ‘doing their thing’ in the Copenhagen hostel must’ve been included on this rate?

Yes everything was included in this price, door to door.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
Have you received your refund by now?

I got the refund last week in the form of a voucher which I used to buy my train tickets to ARN for my little hoppyhopp to Berlin.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
I’m very glad to see you don’t have a BP fetish as well   

Thank goodie we're two on that! If you check my previous reports you'll notice quite a load of trashtalk about paper BP's  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
  I do believe however this Dutchman you are talking about is generally the relaxed type.

You've a point there. He's a very relaxed man, only time I recall him being upset was in ARN back in -10, when a barista served him a bad coffee  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 5):
That look nice and tasty indeed so I assume it was?

It was delicious indeed, and filling as well! Love the kidney beans!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 6):
I think we started talking about your visit , while I was still in Canada .

Ah yes that's true indeed. Can't believe it's been that long already  
Quoting LH4532 (Reply 6):
That does happen very often . It is entertaining and annoying seeing it happen .

Interesting. On SAS they don't have priority boarding on many flights since it's against the Jante Lagen, however in Sweden people are more civilized.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 6):
But we enjoyed our Margaritas .

They were good but expensive!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 6):
I will try the same combo .

Please do.  
Quoting LH4532 (Reply 6):
My next trip to Scandinavia might be booked this Friday   .

I look forward to having you here 
Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
Very nice of SJ to send you in a taxi all the way from Vasteras to Norrkoping!

Hi Lars. The taxi service was very nice indeed, did not expect SJ do do that. But then again I've had a dozen free taxi rides from them in the past few months.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
Good to know that the flight wasn't full as a full flight on a LH 321 is a very uncomfortable experience; had that a few times and hope never again.

That's interesting, last time I flew on a full A321 was with Air France. Great flight, and excellent service. I'm guessing you had the old seats on LH. The new ones provide some really good space for the knees.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
Why on earth would you want to throw away your boarding pass ??? I have saved all of mine since 1989......

Dunno, just think they serve no purpose and just gather up dust in my bag  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
AMS is my preferred airport in Europe for a transfer. I just hope they build a KLM Cityhopper pier to get rid of busing altogether.......

Quite funny when you say that. I only have bad memories from AMS, especially when spending 5 hr layovers there as a kid, getting intoxicated by the menthol cigarette smoke. I like those long walks on FRA and CDG, keeps you busy on a long layover   But in general I find AMS to be quite dull.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Great value

Thank goodie for that voucher! 
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Wow - you certainly don't get service liek that anywhere else in the world. You should probably realise that SJ are really pretty good.

Since I am a loyal customer there, they always treat me very well these days. Lounge staff lets me enter without even holding a ticket, I get free upgrades when asking for them, good compensations, etc, etc.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Should have tried couch surfing! Pretty poor behaviour for a dorm though

Yeah when I come to think of it, I really should have. Next time I plan to go somewhere expensive, I will make some couchrequests.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 9):
Good for you to get this trip fixed up for such a good price. Mind you, you're the master in being frugal.

Hi Lee. Well yeah, I have the ability to live very cheap and still savor the good things in life. And it's not about adopting a hobo lifestyle, it's about being smart  
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 9):
Yes, LH are very good in this arena, I have no complaints either, I prefer the feel of flying little brother LX though. Maybe it's those chocolates?

I thing LH and LX are very equal when it comes to their service offerings. I must however say that the SWISS chocolates are great, and I like how they serve wine in bottles.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 9):
The behaviour of the couple in the dorm in Copenhagen is pretty low. They must be into that kind of thing in public?

Don't know about the danes if they're into doing that in public, but these are college americans after all. They're probably used to doing all kinds of crazy stuff in dorms  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 10):
Nice to see this report up after you mentioned it on our little meet.  

Hi Martin. Yeah came to think of that as well, two meets in two reports. The report will probably be up in two weeks, I think.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 10):
LH's shorthaul product seems nice, cant wait to try it myself in a few weeks.

I look forward to hearing your verdict on the real LH.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 10):
Despite flying to and from CPH several times I have never been to CPH landside. Oh well, all in due time i suppose!

There isn't much to see at landside CPH anyway, so you haven't exactly missed anything.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 10):
Indeed a nice snack for economy on such a short flight, let's see what the LH shorthaul service lottery will give me on my flighs with them soon!

I think ARN only get the sandwich or hot wrap, at least by judging PetteriFinn's reports. But it wouldn't surprise me if they served the salad.

Quoting stipica (Reply 11):
hiihhihih Jonas .... I do not know why but I am always in positive mood after reading your trip reports ....
You can’t sleep when you’re cheap! hehehehehehe classic .... nice nice everything is super nice ...stipica

Hehehehehe, well Stipica your comments always put a smile on my face. Thank you for reading  

//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11596 times:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 12):
I see, yeah remembered back in -06 when they offered the free coffee at the gates, although the machine actually brewed proper coffee rather then just spitting out the instant coffee. Also Biz class got the free soda dispensers. A bit pointless since they've probably had plenty of soda in the lounge already. But in general, I believe these services are provided to some extent as promotional furniture. LH get it cheap in exchange for the advertising.

well the last time i travelled LH they had at least at "lost and found" a nice machine with around 10 different elections, like mocachino, espresso, capuchino, late, etc...I love it... specially if you have to waid forever in order they attend you at lost luggage...  



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11445 times:

Hej Jonas,

I must say you do have a certain talent for writing nice reports and coming up with great photos! And you keep improving with every report you write, very nice. Just learn to keep the attitude a little bit at bay (some attitude is always good, you just have a bit too much plus your opinions are wrong  ) and one day you will make a nice living as a freelance travel write or the like!

Needless to say I very much enjoyed this report.

Oh and I think you should have a warning on top of your reports along the lines of "This report contains product placement and bling bling".

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
As always the report is accompanied by a lagom amount of pictures that I hope you will enjoy.
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
originating from the ”Little land of Lagom”.

Hey Jonas, maybe you should have a dictionary section in your reports as not all of us are familiar with the Swedish language and its terms. Not a problem for me, but for some people.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
he saw no other choice then to have a taxi pick me up from my house and deliver me all the way to Norrköping just in time for catching the next X2000 to Malmö.

Hey, that's very nice of them. After my similar experience in December I'm starting to think that SJ is an okay company. I don't really get your bad rap about them. Well okay, if the on time performance is like that it is justified, but then again they seem to be able to make amends and get you there on time anyway.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My ”grocery shop receipt” BP promptly served. I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.

I hate those flimsy BPs. They probably loose their ink in a few years as well, just like the supermarket receipts. And never throw away BPs, that's a cardinal sin! They are meant to be kept forever as a reminder of your flights and trips. I have a huge plastic box full of them and assorted travel memorabilia, one day I will order them all and stick them to an album...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So I was forced to stand on the podium while getting publicly molested by a bald man whose fingers came dangerously close to my manly parts.

I prefer the Swedish way of doing it: there are no gender boundaries. Many times at Arlanda pretty young girls have given me the pat down treatment, and a dirty old man like me hardly gets opportunities for that anywhere else any more!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I saw no point in picking a fight with the lounge staff, after Petteri Finn’s brutal rejection a few years ago (nowadays the dragons fall to the ground as he salutes them with his signature hat gesture every time he makes his entrance to the lounge).

Well, it wasn't exactly a fight, just an exchange of words. But they were right so no hard feelings.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
At the end it was just better to sit down at a bench and spend the remaining hour reading my copy of TIME Magazine (also courtesy of the man with the hat).

You're welcome. Although I thought you'd read it already - it's old news anyway. Yesterday's news are today's fish wrappings, remember?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
What’s the point of paying for Starbucks if you’re forced to sit on uncomfy chairs!?

Ever heard of take away?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Sadly though, as I sat down in 26A I noticed that the row was missing a window.

Tsk tsk, you weren't paying attention to my Malta report - that's where I was originally seated (ok, on the F side but the same row) and I did the same thing as you - moved to greener pastures.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
why I love this airline so much.

Jonas, your comments of Lufthansa are kinda funny considering it must be almost ten years since you last flew them. I know you form your opinion on various things based on the reports on this forum, but keep in mind that those things are always subjective and based on the context of the one person who is writing the report.

Having said that I agree with you that the LH short haul economy product has only gotten better - the introduction of that new catering concept has made the product more consistent and inconsistent at the same time, whether that makes any sense  . I do miss the hot meals you used to get on HEL flights even as recently as two years ago, but well... that's the Zeitgeist nowadays.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
During the approach we overflew the entire airport, passing by all the terminals, hangars and buildings, offering some very spectacular views. I’m suspecting that we landed of the ”Polderbaan” of FRA as I have never experienced this approach before.

Yes, based on this discussion I am 100% sure it was 25R you landed on.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Again, the German efficiency was proven to exist. I really don’s see why our Venezuelan friend hates Frankfurt so much (okay to be fair, the place was really empty).

Well, the thing is that as an O/D airport FRA is okay, apart from the nastiness caused by the masses of people passing through every now and then. But most of the FRA traffic is connecting and that can be anything from a very pleasant 50 meter walk between adjacent gates to a nasty 45+ minute bus/people mover/bus kind of endeavor. It's too small for the crowds it handles and basically just been given new extensions and bits here and there to ramp up the capacity which makes the whole experience rather inconsistent and annoying. A better way would be to build a brand new terminal capable of handling today's pax and the next 20 years expected growth (like at BBI).

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
View of the DB Lounge at Frankfurt Airport.

Hmm, that looks like... can't think of a proper word here but a mix between a faux lounge and a 50s style American Diner. Maybe you mixed your pictures from your lunch joint the next day?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
we agreed to meet up at the Hooters Restaurant around 10.30pm.

Jonas goes Hooters, wow. There's a certain theme in this report, I see.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
as I was busy stuffing myself with those 450grams of meat

Oh man, you really are something. Although taken out of context this sentence becomes quite hilarious!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
being slightly reluctant in his father’s choice of car,

Which was? A Saab?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
15 minutes later, I was dropped off at the ICE station in Mannheim.

Hah, when I was here a couple of years ago it was August and +33 degrees in Mannheim. I almost melted.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Suppose this High-Speed thing is just an euphemism for ”trains with slightly enhanced speeds”.

No Jonas, that's not it. You have to take a lot of things into account when planning on running trains at 300+ kilometers per hour. For us Nordic folks it always seems a bit weird, but believe me - Germany is very built up. On that stretch you did along the Rhine there are towns and settlements every few kilometers and a LOT of other train traffic. That kind of things make it really hard to run a high speed train at full speed unless there are dedicated tracks. For us it is simple - there so much empty space building a high speed train network is just a matter of lots of money and building the proper infrastructure, but in many places like in Central Europe there simply isn't space for that.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Free literature provided as well. Sadly as this wasn’t a real lounge, they didn’t have Newsweek. So I passed.

Well, you should read the Economist anyway.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
What I found quite interesting was the fact that two jetways were used for this A321, it felt almost like boarding a long haul flight.

Hmm, I don't think I've ever had that! Nice idea.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So I took the opportunity to use the jetway connected to door 1L, despite not being seated in Business Class.

So you could pretend to be a faux biz class passenger for a while?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Along with the salad came a pack of crostini. As usual I opted for the white wine and diet coke combo.

Argh, those LH crostinis are horrible.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I must say that the pizza was perhaps one of the best ones I have ever tasted in my entire life, and not only did it taste good, it was great to look at as well.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
As I was about to slumber back into the dreamy wonderland, I suddenly began hearing a very distinct rustling noise. I was hoping and praying that it wouldn’t be the sound I suspected it to be, but sadly it was. What followed the sound of rubber being attached to a man’s vegetable was a traumatising cacophony of giggles, dirty talk, loud bed squeaks, and moans.

Pictures or it didn't happen!

But seriously I was laughing out loud when I read this and imagined you lying there on your bed with this going on a few meters away. LOL!

Didn't it occur to you that you could've just gotten up and told the folks to knock it off in a loud voice? Embarrassing people usually works well - it can lead to a fistfight though, but hey, it's all for the cause. Or were you embarrassed getting up since you were being a little... invigorated?  
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
but quite frankly the idea of having sex in a room full of strangers just seemed to make those two hit it harder, and harder. At one point it sounded almost as if the bunk bed was about to break apart.

It was very obnoxious behavior from them, I agree with you here. But still, you could've done something about it instead of just pretending to be sleeping and having a few faux coughs...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I will most likely not sleep in a hostel at any point in the future, since you simply can’t, never had, and never will be able to get a decent night’s sleep.

That's bs and you know it. I've spent plenty of nights in hostels in my younger days and have always slept like a baby. Sure on some occasions there have been drunk people stumbling to their beds in wee hours of the morning but that can be shrugged off. Simply turn the other cheek and continue sleeping. I do have great capability for sleeping, of course and am basically able to sleep anywhere, almost any time, but still. If it bothers you, just get some ear plugs and have a few beers to make you sleepy in the evening.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I woke up at 9.30am feeling like a wreck with a massive sleep deprivation.

Now that doesn't make sense. You said you wanted to make it to the hostel early to be able to catch enough sleep, so you had plenty of time to sleep in the evening and that coitus probably was finished by four if they came back after two (unless the guy was a real stud or a porn actor) which leaves you with another five plus hours of sleep. No deprivation there.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
and heading down to the reception to check out.

And you didn't mention anything about what went on during the night??!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I’ve had Beef á la Lindström five times so I’ve gotten a bit tired of the dish already.

Is that really Lindström? I see no beetroot in it?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The rather generous tray of dinner.

Otherwise that looks very good.


User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11244 times:

Hi Jonas,

Apparently you have performed a transition: you are no longer the man of the f(aux)-word, it's the p-word all over the place! But that's of course very much better. Anyway another really entertaining, well-written report with high quality pictures (just as you stated yourself!).

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The cheap fares were available on those dates, and after having redeemed the code my flights set me back at just over €60 which in my opinion is a bargain price considering the fact that Lufthansa is one of the best carriers out there.

That really is a great price! You did not happen to see if the voucher was valid from Finland?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
costumer

(no words needed)

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My ”grocery shop receipt” BP promptly served

I can see your name (and you ticket number and your booking reference).  
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.

I really hate this kind of BPs as they are such ones you can do nothing else with than throw away.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I figured that Starbucks would make up a good lounge substitute, but sadly the place was packed and the seating was rather poor. Even worse were the prices listed on the board, absolutely absolutely unjustifiably overpriced.

Well, name one cafe or restaurant at CPH that is not seriously overpriced...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Although this time, I had full trust in the pilot throughout whole ride.

Explain yourself, young man.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
but of course, the people in question are of the same kind that fly Ryanair, i.e lacking brain functions to justify analytical thinking and research)

I'm flying Ryanair on Tuesday. As far as I know, my brains are not dysfunctional in any way.

Having read your report, I really can see why you like Lufthansa so much. Myself I am also impressed by Lufthansa's consistency and reliability, on the other hand it is a concept you know having flown with them a number of times. But the meals and the new seats indeed really look good.

If one excludes your weird (and unmotivated, if you ask me!) comments about SAS, Ryanair and other carriers your report was a really enjoyable mix. On the other hand a little bit of provocation is never wrong...

Regards,
717Flyer


User currently offlineJL418 From Italy, joined Jun 2009, 493 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11203 times:

Hi Jonas!

Great read, it's been a pleasure to browse through your TR which, along with the usual excellent pictures, made me giggle a lot (seriously, how crisp and neat are the pictures you make!?)

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My ”grocery shop receipt” BP promptly served. I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.

Like Petteri before, I utterly hate them. I use BPs, train tickets et similia as bookmarks and those flimsy boarding passes simply aren't up to the job. For once, they stain the books and they're solid as toilet paper. Unfortunately, I need them, my mobile phone doesn't work as well as bookmark!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The security screening however was not a breeze. For the first time in years I got the unlucky beep when passing though the detector, despite conducting my usual procedures. I’m suspecting the detectors they use in CPH are a lot more sensitive, and may have been triggered by the silver buttons and riveting in my Nudie Jeans (I’ve never had any problems with my Nudies in the past).
So I was forced to stand on the podium while getting publicly molested by a bald man whose fingers came dangerously close to my manly parts. To make matters worse my cellphone had somehow fallen down under the X-Ray machine, and it took a lot of discussions with the security staff to get it back.

Well, you're not alone. I go through security at least twice a day at LHR and, despite that, I sometimes ring at the detector, even if I don't have anything metallic on me, whereas sometimes I can go through with my belt on without anyone caring. My bottom line? Metal detector are like quantum physics: nobody understands them.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
View of the gate area at B7. Place was not much crowded.

Interesting seats! I don't know whether they are simply looking good or are even comfy...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Upon entering the aircraft, I was greeted by a friendly male purser who promptly directed me down the aisle. Despite this machine being almost four years old, the interior was in immaculate condition. The aircraft was fitted with the ”Neue Ekonomie Klasse” or NEK interior, and the cabin linings were of the latest version, indicating that this aircraft was indeed one of the later production models. Soon, I found my way to my seat at row 26 on the A side.

It must be said that LH's cabins are impeccable on short haul. Every time I flew with them I've always found great seats and, even on aircrafts old enough to get a beer had they been humans, clean cabin fittings and white lights. Their UV filter must be working good.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
despite Daniel being slightly reluctant in his father’s choice of car, we set off out to the empty streets. Ludwigshafen may perhaps not have been one of the most fascinating cities I’ve visited.

Which car was it?! It mustn't be a Saab like P. said, they're brilliant cars, those!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Soon the train started to roll, making its 80 kilometre dash to the airport. I was quite disappointed that the train didn’t reach its top-speed of 320 km/h, instead it just lurked its way at a slow 180 km/h despite the tracks being dead straight. Suppose this High-Speed thing is just an euphemism for ”trains with slightly enhanced speeds”

Well, you have to bear in mind the spaces for acceleration and braking. For instance, the AV trains between Milan and Turin (150 kms of line) reach 300 km/h just for a handful of minutes, if ever. I've travelled on the Italian, French, German and Japanese hi-speed trains and I have to say that all of them but the Shinkansen Nozomi felt quite "tranquil" as far as acceleration was concerned. The Shinkansen was a different beast, with accelerations that made me feel like we were running down a runway! But the downside was the comfort, lower than its European counterparts.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Dallmayr have placed coffee vending machines around the terminal for the passengers to use free of charge. I recon that this is a great way for a company to market themselves, hence keeping the passengers from mortgaging their houses on buying overpriced coffee from the cafés

Kudos to Dallmayr, I hope that, one day, Lavazza will do the same at Turin airport (but they're too stingy for that I'm afraid!).

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Cabin during boarding. Very nice and clean looking NEK seats.

Am I the only one finding the "Your personal space" writing a little bit...cheesy?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
As the turbulence had cleared, the crew quickly rolled out the carts to conduct the snack service for this flight. Soon the friendly flight attendant reached my row, and quickly handed me over the snack followed by the drinks cart. Nowadays flying Lufthansa short haul you never really know what you will be served, it could either be a sandwich, hot wrap, salad or chocolate bar. On this flight I was quite glad to be served a salad consisting of kidney beans, feta cheese, black olives, red bell peppers, and grilled zucchini. Along with the salad came a pack of crostini. As usual I opted for the white wine and diet coke combo.

I'm not too fond of this Lufthansa catering lottery. I mean, it adds a little bit of spice and surprise to a flight (something that would be more than welcome to my "Beer&Korma-flavoured-crisps" flights), but it may also look like the caterers never know what to fill the galleys with and simply pick up the first things they can get their hands on.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Having people snore when sleeping in a hostel is annoying but acceptable, but this was simply on the verge of criminal behaviour. I will most likely not sleep in a hostel at any point in the future, since you simply can’t, never had, and never will be able to get a decent night’s sleep.

I have been sleeping in hostels for nearly 10 years now and I've never witnessed such a scene before, you've been incredibly unlucky! However, whenever I'm in a dorm whose inhabitants look more lively than larvae (doesn't happen often I have to say!) my rule is to hit the sack only after having gulped down at least 3 pints of beer for medical purposes: they'll ensure a safe, sound and bomb-proof sleep!

Looking forward to read from you again!

Fabrizio


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6816 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11142 times:

Hi Jonas,

great report with top quality pictures as usual! It seems you guys had a nice time together.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Even worse were the prices listed on the board, absolutely absolutely unjustifiably overpriced.

Welcome to Starbucks...it's totally overpriced everywhere.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
In my opinion, flying Lufthansa short haul Y is how all short haul flights should be like.

But LH still needs to install TVs.  



PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5172 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11066 times:

Hi, Jonas,

that´s for sure a real detailed story together with great pictures.
Good to follow you´re LH experience, much better to see you´re succesfull meeting with Daniel and Johannes.
But also really bad to follow that CPH hostel experience. Shame to spend a self payed night this way.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: P., the city of L.!.
User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1092 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10942 times:

Jonas,

Really, one of your best reports. It has been a long time since I have enjoyed one so more. I think I have said it before, that I always leave reading one of your reports a bit exhausted and neurotic; all this talk of not wanting to wait in 'public places', the trauma of the hostel, the sleep deprivation.

But over and above, I absolutely appreciate and encourage the tongue-in-cheek (at least I hope it is) tones, the witty descriptions and constant stream of moans and observations. LH seems to appeal to what I have learned of your 'trip report personality' - cool, sleek, utilitarian and efficient.

Find the photos greatly under-appreciated. You captured every nuance beautifully, although sometimes the focus got so soft it felt like a Lufthansa porn shoot.

LH looked fine. Great for shorthaul, but I would veto on a longer sector.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
What followed the sound of rubber being attached to a man’s vegetable was a traumatising cacophony of giggles, dirty talk, loud bed squeaks, and moans. These shamelessly disrespectful barbarians kept on for well over one hour, keeping everyone in the room including myself awake without even realising it themselves. One guy even started making faux coughs as an attempt to make these people stop, but quite frankly the idea of having sex in a room full of strangers just seemed to make those two hit it harder, and harder. At one point it sounded almost as if the bunk bed was about to break apart.

Jesus, this was really quite funny. Vividly described. And a vegetable? That was a bit of a disturbing euphemism.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 12):
Having people snore when sleeping in a hostel is annoying but acceptable,

Actually, I would prefer the sex. In a non-perverted way but - there you have procreation, whilst some snorers sound like they are on deathbeds. Also, sex, an hour, sometimes 3 minutes, but snoring will go on all night and is not as rhythmic. Personally, not 2 weeks ago I had a snorer in a dorm, and I threw a pillow at him. All hostel people need to be reminded of the rules - no point pretending to cough/ sleep.

On side notes, I am a massive fan of backpacking, not so much hostels, Ryanair, sheet-metal boarding passes, extremely public waiting areas and full fat coke. But I take none of your comments personally, they gave me a good chortle.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Pictures or it didn't happen!

Hilarious (and the longest I have ever seen) replies.

Also Eric's was funny!

Thanks Jonas,

Luke!



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2477 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10862 times:

Hi Jonas,

Very nice report about your trip to Germany along with your signature high quality pictures. How sweet of Daniel to invite you to spend the weekend with his family.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.

Throwing away? I would never do that with any boarding pass of mine after usage.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So I was forced to stand on the podium while getting publicly molested by a bald man whose fingers came dangerously close to my manly parts.

I would be happy to become your stand-in.  


Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
and it took a lot of discussions with the security staff to get it back.

Unbelievable. Why were the staff members reluctant to get your belonging back?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
What’s the point of paying for Starbucks if you’re forced to sit on uncomfy chairs!?

Why did you go there anyway? I am sure there are many other places at CPH which serve decent coffee at more moderate price.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
a first good impression of the German efficiency

I would say Daniel’s efficiency.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
promising that I would be back in Germany very soon again.

And also inviting him to come over to Västerås?   


Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Since Dallmayr coffee and Lufthansa are part of an advertising alliance,

Apparently, LH has dropped the alliance with Jacob’s.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Sadly as this wasn’t a real lounge, they didn’t have Newsweek

You and your Newsweek!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Oh well, I guess I’ll see you next time!

I do not know why but I have the impression that you are developing an unhealthy obsession for lounges.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Also if those two were planning to have sex in the first place, why the hell didn’t they stay at a hotel since it would cost the same money anyway

To be honest, you could have asked yourself the same question if you wish to avoid any close encounter with real-life lovemaking performance.


Anyway, I had a really enjoyable read. Thanks for sharing.

Greetings,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10797 times:

A great trip report, as usual. Wonderful pictures too!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The cheap fares were available on those dates, and after having redeemed the code my flights set me back at just over €60 which in my opinion is a bargain price considering the fact that Lufthansa is one of the best carriers out there

That's a good deal!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
With hotels being very very expensive, I did the rare exception of booking myself a night in a hostel costing only €10. All in all this was a bargain weekend getaway costing me just under €100

Good find. I've never payed less then E20 for a hostel in Copenhagen.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Fearing the worst, I picked up the phone and called SJ (Swedish Railway Company) costumer service. I was served by a friendly young male on the other line, and after providing him with my booking details and flight departure, he saw no other choice then to have a taxi pick me up from my house and deliver me all the way to Norrköping just in time for catching the next X2000 to Malmö. I thanked the man, and headed out to my doorstep where the taxi arrived after just 10 minutes.

I am again very impressed with the service of SJ!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My ”grocery shop receipt” BP promptly served. I really like this kind of BP as you can just thrown them away so easily when you’re done with them.

Since I'm not a boarding pass collecter, I have no problems with these kind of BP's. They can fit into your wallet or pocket easily, when you fold them.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
On this flight I was quite glad to be served a salad consisting of kidney beans, feta cheese, black olives, red bell peppers, and grilled zucchini. Along with the salad came a pack of crostini. As usual I opted for the white wine and diet coke combo

Ah yes, I love those little salads!


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10669 times:

Hey guys, thanks for the second round of replies. I'm really glad you all enjoyed reading!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Just learn to keep the attitude a little bit at bay (some attitude is always good, you just have a bit too much plus your opinions are wrong &nbsp Wink

That's going to be a difficult thing to do, as I write in the exact way I felt when taking the trip. And usually airports make me stressed, and angry hence the attitude. Lounges however have a different impact on me.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
I have a huge plastic box full of them and assorted travel memorabilia, one day I will order them all and stick them to an album...

= You're crazy.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Many times at Arlanda pretty young girls have given me the pat down treatment,

I agree, those security check blondies at ARN are really nice. Such a shame they're always at the check adjacent to the SkyCity and not my preferred SAS Concourse.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Although I thought you'd read it already - it's old news anyway.

I usually don't have time to finish a copy of TIME these days, so I usually keep them at the side pocket of my backpack for some time to read every now and a then. There were still some interesting articles

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Ever heard of take away?

What's the point of that when you can bring coffee from home for a fraction of the cost!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Jonas, your comments of Lufthansa are kinda funny considering it must be almost ten years since you last flew them.

Actually I've flown them really a lot in the past, although last time I flew the real lufty was in -07. But seems like things haven't changed much since then, they've still been that quality carrier that I love.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Which was? A Saab?

A VW minivan. Daniel suggested we'd take the Golf instead, but his dad refused.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Well, you should read the Economist anyway.

I tried reading The Economist on my flight to Shanghai. Such a boring magazine, it's like a faux version of Newsweek. Don't see what's so good about it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
So you could pretend to be a faux biz class passenger for a while?

Yes, that's exactly what I did   but still, quite a cool feeling to board through your private jetway.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 14):
Is that really Lindström? I see no beetroot in it?

It was Lindström indeed. The beetrots were chopped and mixed into the meat.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 15):
you are no longer the man of the f(aux)-word, it's the p-word all over the place!

Well this is a Lufthansa report after all. Would you expect me to write anything faux about them?  
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 15):
(no words needed)

Bad habit, I know, I know.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 15):
I can see your name (and you ticket number and your booking reference).  

That's true. Then again not that there would be any use of them now, since the flight is already made.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 16):
My bottom line? Metal detector are like quantum physics: nobody understands them.

  

Quoting JL418 (Reply 16):
Interesting seats! I don't know whether they are simply looking good or are even comfy...

Actually those seats were just as uncomfy as any other airport seat.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 16):
Which car was it?! It mustn't be a Saab like P. said, they're brilliant cars, those!

Saabs are great cars indeed. Read the previous reply to P  
Quoting JL418 (Reply 16):
Am I the only one finding the "Your personal space" writing a little bit...cheesy?

Funny that you say so. I find them quite cheezy as well, but then you should see the ones they have on SAS. They stretch down all the way to the floor!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
great report with top quality pictures as usual! It seems you guys had a nice time together.

Hi PH, thanks lot for reading!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
But LH still needs to install TVs.  

Well why need a TV when you've a window to look out 
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 18):
that´s for sure a real detailed story together with great pictures.

Hi Markus, thanks for reading!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 18):
Shame to spend a self payed night this way.

Yeah a shame indeed, but thankfully it was only €10 or was it €15 don't remember.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Really, one of your best reports. It has been a long time since I have enjoyed one so more.

Thanks Luke. A bit surprised that you say so, since I've always thought my best report was the SWISS Biz. Nice that you've a different opinion, and thank you very much for reading.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Find the photos greatly under-appreciated. You captured every nuance beautifully, although sometimes the focus got so soft it felt like a Lufthansa porn shoot.

It gladdens to hear those kind words from you!  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
And a vegetable? That was a bit of a disturbing euphemism.

Well ever heard James May use that euphemism? He usually refers to it as the "Gentleman's vegetable"  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
But I take none of your comments personally, they gave me a good chortle.

That's good to know. Yes none of the things I write should be taken personally. It should just be for laughs, and I hope people haven't gotten offended.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 20):
I would be happy to become your stand-in.  

I'll let you know next time that happens, I'll give you a call!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 20):
Unbelievable. Why were the staff members reluctant to get your belonging back?

Yes really rude of them, maybe they thought I would just steal it. Although it was just a €20 Nokia, so don't see how anybody would want to steal that!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 20):
Why did you go there anyway? I am sure there are many other places at CPH which serve decent coffee at more moderate price.

I didn't go there. A waste of money when I only had 40 minutes to kill + I would get plenty of nice drinks on the plane.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 20):
And also inviting him to come over to Västerås?   

Oh yes, he's coming over as well!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 20):
Apparently, LH has dropped the alliance with Jacob’s.

Yeah noticed that as well. But Dallmayr were nice too.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 20):
To be honest, you could have asked yourself the same question if you wish to avoid any close encounter with real-life lovemaking performance.

If I were to spend a night with someone for those purposes I would've payed the extra $$$ for a hotel.  
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 21):
Good find. I've never payed less then E20 for a hostel in Copenhagen.

Quite surprised as well to see the rate so cheap. Usually hostels are around €30 but that of course also depends on the time of year.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 21):
They can fit into your wallet or pocket easily, when you fold them.

Very true, those BP's are very easy to fit in the passport or wallet or pocket.

//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10314 times:

Hi Jonas

Great report you've got there! Enjoyed the read. A.net meetings (how big or small they are) are always great. This meet did not seem to be an exception at all.
Lufthansa did took care of you quite well, loved the cabin pictures taken on the FRA-CPH leg. Just a bit sorry to hear about your overnight adventure in CPH!

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3007 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10242 times:

Hi Jonas,

excellently reported as usual  

Nice that you could use the voucher, brings down LH's fare to a more reasonable level.

SJ appear to have a very good service, a taxi from home 10 mins after phoning them. And the whole trip for free.

LH as good as ever, better food than my own LH experience last year!

Always nice to meet another A.netter!

And as for the hostel in Copenhagen... I like hostels, especially ones with private rooms. No more dorms, often a private single in a hostel can be had for EUR20-30 (looks like CPH from EUR50, less than half your hotel rate).

Thanks again!

signol



Flights booked: none :(
25 LH4532 : @ signol : I can only agree with you . @ akhmad : Thank you , Suryo . Daniel ( LH4532 )
26 Post contains images LH4116 : Hi Signol. Well, hostels with private rooms tend to cost as much as a regular hotel room, so I prefer to spend the money on that instead. But true fo
27 TJCAB : I am sure you meant V2500 engines as outfitted on their 321's. Nice report and nice images, nice writing style. Always nice to read about the other t
28 Post contains images LH4116 : Hello there, thanks a lot for reading my report. I'm very glad you enjoyed it, as well as the pictures. Oh yes, thanks for pointing out my mistake. LH
29 Post contains images parton87 : Hello Jonas! Thanks for another nice story with great pictures. I can only agree with you, LH is a really good airline. I love them too! I must say th
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