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Air North 4N 307: JUN/11: YXY/YDAYOC/YEV: Y /HS 7!  
User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12723 times:

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I > Background:
In consulting, once in a while, engagements get postponed last minute due to a variety of factors. In the case of big projects that you want to be on, I decide to stick it out as I don't want to take on "lesser" projects. This happened to me right after coming back from my Siberian adventures. With 3 weeks to kill, I decide to spend it somewhere new - after spending an agonizing night over lots of wine at a favorite CCS haunt, a call from a friend in Canada and the subsequent discussion led me to an executive decision --- I was going back to Canada for the first time 2008. The next day was spent deciding where to go, and how to maximize the trip by going to places in Canada where I (or, other Canadians) had never been to.

1 day later, I was on a flight departing CCS for YVR - CM to LAX, and then WS to YVR. I intended to write a report on WS LAX-YVR, but my battery died - irrespective, WS were great and they might come up sometime soon ...

So the first report in this "CANADA SERIES" is how I went from Vancouver to one of the most northernmost habitats in the world - Inuvik (YEV). Inuvik (YEV) is past the Arctic Circle and would afford me the opportunity to fly one of the last remaining Hawker Siddley HS-748 aircraft in the world. I tried A.Net searches and it seems like this is the first HS7 report - could that be possible? Anyways, it is definitely the first Air North report featuring YEV and intermediate stops for the first time.

From YVR, I took Air North (4N) to Whitehorse (YXY) - after that, it was the epic journey on HS7 from Whitehorse (YXY) to Inuvik (YEV) via Dawson (YDA) and Old Crow (YOC).

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
Air North (IATA: 4N) is an airline based on the northern Canadian territory of Yukon with a base in Whitehorse and serving destinations all across Yukon, the Northwestern Territories (NWT), Alaska, Alberta, and British Columbia. It has a mix of 737's (200/400/500) and the legenday HS 748's.

Their functional website at http://www.flyairnorth.com was my first stop and with a few clicks I was able to book my ticket and receive e-tickets in the mail. I was not able to select a seat and wondered if the same could be done on the 737 mainline flights. Anyways, the fact I could revisit the site to view my itinerary made me happy. The airline did not have features such as flight modifications, but those really are advanced stuff and I was rather impressed by how this small airline had all the basics down.

b) At Airport:
After 2 days of sightseeing in Whitehorse, it was time to leave - really don't think there is much to do beyond that. Took a taxi very early AM to the small airport in Whitehorse which seemed to have been developed by an Ottawa bureaucrat. It had absolutely no form factor and I was disappointed that it did not incorporate the rich native culture and design cues. Instead, it was a small facility that showed its 1970's roots.

The HS7 flights are handled by a small counter next to the main counter and the young ladies at the counter was a little surprised to see me and my desire to fly the HS7. She said only 1 other person was going all the way to Inuvik, handed me a boarding pass, and told me to "be comfortable and grab a coffee". She would come get me when boarding started  . This was new! It was going to be an interesting experience for sure - and reminded me of my 2 stop turbo-prop experience on the AN4 a few weeks earlier in Siberia. After all, these two lands were right in the same latitude!

So 15 minutes prior to departure time, the girl "found" me in the small YXY airport terminal and basically walked the group of us to the gate. Apparently, flights going to the "North", do not need to do security clearance. How quaint ... an ironic. I mean, Canada is pretty "North" itself. But within Canada, a place like Whitehorse in not considered "North". Haha. Perspective, I guess?

As I walked into the tarmac, there she was. The HS748 glowed in the morning colors and I tried to control my sense of excitement. Entry was through the aft door (for those of you familiar, has this always been the case?), and I was greeted by the sole 4N FA. She was rather professional and nice - not Olga - but not full of energy and spirit either. Y load varied between 50% and 80% depending on the leg.

Airport - External:

(Whitehorse Airport)


Check-in:

(Special desk for HS7 flights)


Airport - Internal:


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(FIDS)

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(Post Security @ YXY)
NONE – There was no security ☺ -
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Scenes of the tarmac:

(4N’s fleet)

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(Company’s “new” 737’s)


Lounge

NONE



Boarding:


(Gate Area)
NONE



III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
Nothing distributed while on ground. On the YXY-YDA, coffee was served along with a muffin type stuff. On YDA-YOC, more coffee and biscuits. Nothing on YOC-YEV.

The highlight of the flight … and the reason I took it besides the HS7 was stopping in places like Dawson and Old Crow. Of course, it did not disappoint. As the pictures would show, each airport was an amazing and an incredible glance at life in some of the most remote places in the Northern world. At each stop, we had to get off the plane, go to the terminal, wait, then get walk back to the plane. At each stop, it felt like the entire town came to greet the plane - though it was summer, people came in ATV's to the airport. It was amazing - like I was in another world. Unlike in Russia, I was never yelled for taking pictures and people were generally very nice and Canadian. The other thing I noticed is how segregated the indigenous Canadian people are in their own country. Pretty sad for a country that calls itself so progressive.

The northern airports also incorporated native design better - though, the airports in Siberia actually looked more modern.

b) Aircraft + Seats:
The main reason for the trip was of course to fly the HS7 - and what an experience it turned out to be. Like the surroundings it served, the HS7 was an exotic bird in an exotic land. The seat was actually comfortable enough with decent legrom. However, unlike the AN-24, the HS7 did not provide any recline - now, I don't know how much of that was a factor of 4N's modification versus that had already been the case.

The aircraft seemed to be well maintained, though having the rows in front occupied with target and strapped in took some time to get used to. The other highlight - just like with IR Aero was the bathroom. And this despite their being no poo-poo around. The bathroom area was "open" and exposed the door - I felt I was more like in a WW2 plane than a commercial aircraft. It felt like a completely different era - very hard to explain. Just take a look!

Oh, an one more thing about the HS7 ... it is L O U D. Probably, the loudest aircraft I have been on thus far!

Aircraft:
(Our aircraft: the beautiful – and LOUD - Air North HS7)

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Views from Aircraft:

(@ YXY Airport – look at that engine)

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(Flight to Dawson – Scenery)

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(Aircraft @ Dawson)

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(Dawson “Airport”)

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(Dawson baggage claim)

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(Dawson “Airport” Outside)

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(Boarding the HS7 – love this shot, and feeling)

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(Flight between Dawson and Old Crow)

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(Old Crow “Airport” – arrival was a big deal locally)

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(Inuvik Airport)

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(Inuvik Airport: 737 of First Air)


General Seat Views + Seat Legroom

(Seat)

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(Front of seat – this is new for me – luggage strapped up)

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(Seat controls)

*
(Around Seat)

*
(Legroom)


Seat Recline + Angle View:

NO Recline
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Cabin:


*

*

(Blanket ++)
NONE

(Bathroom – something unique for sure)

*

*

*

*

*

*
(Take that 787 – large windows)

*
(The journey via cargo to the cockpit)

*



c) Meal + Beverage:
Unlike my IR Aero flight, no one got sick or anything from the meal service - probably because there was so little on the offer. On the first leg to Dawson, there was coffee and some beverages accompanied by a bread roll/muffin type thing. The later was hard and not too nice. Between YDA and YOC, we were served more coffee and other beverages and an assortment of biscuits which was much nicer. On the final leg, between YOC and YEV, nothing was served. Apparently, this is because of the short stage-length and because of low demand and poor weather. I was told that if the weather was short, the HS7 just flies nonstop from YDA to YEV.

Either way, I felt a tad hungry and thought they could have provided at least a box or something - or, done a onboard sale.

(Between YXY and YDA)

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(Between YDA and YOC)


d) Inflight Entertainment:
Of course, the HS7 does not come with any form of IFE. Again, you are left catching up with your seatmate, enjoy the views, and read a book. Have to say though, the in-flight magazine was rather good and gave me a glimpse into life in Yukon.

(“In-flight magazines”, Boarding Passes, etc.: Not too shabby – loved the postcards in the magazine)

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e) Crew:
As I alluded to, my flight definitely did not have anyone as memorable as Olga. In fact, the attendant was rather generic - she was there with the beverages, cookies, etc., but made no significant effort to get to know her passengers or be particularly warm during any leg of the flight. Overall, I found her very BLAH - hard to find a fault with her, but someone who I cannot recall at all right now. I didn't remember her being overtly helpful with luggage and stuff - so perhaps, this an area of improvement for 4N.

IV> Post-Flight:
Arriving into YEV felt good. It was like I had accomplished something. As the HS7 flew away, I bid adieu on an aircraft that I will probably never fly again.

(Goodbye HS7 @ YEV)


V> Impressions + Scores:
Like any of my other reports on segments such as this, I did not fly Air North to see whether it was the NH/9W/SQ of the North. I took it to experience an exotic carrier and that took me to places I never knew existed. In this respect, Air North did not disappoint. Just like on Ir Aero, it was an amazing experience that took me back to an age where multi-stop flights were normal, and IFE involved talking to your fellow passengers and observing the scenario out of the window. The HS7 is a beautiful aircraft - something primal about the amount of noise that filled its cabin.

However, while it was not as bad as Ir Aero, it did not have the warmth I found on an airline such as African Express. The mediocre human element on board and food offerings could definitely be improved. Perhaps give their ground personnel duties in the air?! So in the end, a truly memorable experience - but something remembered for the setting and the equipment. Just for this, a two-thumps up.



VI> Other Trip Reports:

PREMIUM:
9.27: JET AIRWAYS **FIRST** (110): LHR-BOM: 10/2010
9.27: THAI AIRWAYS **FIRST** (108): BKK-LHR: 07/2010
8.66: Brussels Airlines (93): FIH-BRU: 01/2010
8.64: Turkish Airlines (59): JFK-IST: 11/2008
8.63: Jet Airways (88): JFK-BRU: 10/2009
8.61: Air Canada (49): YYZ-SCL: 06/2008
8.54: Turkish Airlines (77): GRU-DKR-IST: 04/2009
8.36: Kingfisher (98): BOM-HKG: 01/2010
8.30: Jet Airways (74): KWI-BOM: 04/2009
8.23: United Airlines (72): SFO-SYD: 03/2009
8.11: Aeroflot (33): MOW-DEL: 09/2007
8.05: Air India (80): CCU-JFK: 06/2009
8.04: Korean Air (40): NRT-ICN: 10/2007
8.02: Delta Airlines (24): JFK-CDG: 08/2007
7.82: UNITED AIRLINES **FIRST** (110): SFO-ICN: 10/2010
7.82: Singapore Airlines (06): EWR-SIN: 09/2006
7.66: Sri Lankan (104): DEL-CMB: 07/2010
7.64: Royal Jordanian (91): AMM-YUL: 12/2009
7.61: China Southern (103): LOS-DXB: 04/2010
7.57: Pakistan Airlines (102): ORD-BCN: 06/2010
7.46: LAN (55): YYZ-JFK: 09/2008
7.38: AMERICAN AIRLINES **FIRST** (112): LHR-JFK: 10/2010
7.38: CATHAY PACIFIC **FIRST** (109): HKG-LHR: 10/2010
7.25: Iran Air (88): BOM-IKA: 12/2009
7.23: Air Pacific (120): NAN-APW-HNL: 01/2011
7.23: Virgin Atlantic (81): BOS-LHR: 07/2009
7.14: Swiss (52): SCL-GRU: 06/2008
7.11: Aer Lingus (105): MAD-IAD: 05/2010
7.11: Austrian (79): VIE-JFK: 06/2009
7.07: Privatair (84): BOM-FRA: 08/2009
7.02: Qatar (68): DOH-JFK: 01/2009
6.96: Etihad (61): JFK-AUH: 12/2008
6.93: Delta Airlines (18): SEA-JFK: 11/2006
6.88: Egypt Air (123): LHR-CAI: 03/2011
6.84: ConViasa (65): CCS-DAM: 01/2009
6.82: Air Burkina (106): BKO-OUA: 06/2010
6.81: Air Canada (17): ICN-YYZ: 10/2006
6.75: Afriqiyah + Libyan (113): CAI-TIP: 11/2010
6.70: KLM (32): EBB-AMS: 08/2007
6.52: Emirates (99): LHR-DXB: 02/2010
6.39: South African (97): EZE-JNB: 01/2010
6.36: Privatair (60): MUC-BOS: 12/2008
6.29: TAM Brasil (96): POA-EZE: 02/2010
6.25: Korean Air (45): NAN-ICN: 10/2007
6.21: Iberia (87): BOS-MAD: 10/2009
6.11: A SKY (107): OUA-COO: 06/2010
6.11: TAP Portugal (53): GRU-OPO: 06/2008
6.00: Gulf Air (75): BOM-BAH: 04/2009
5.88: African Express (89): DXB-NBO: 11/2009
5.75: Singapore Airlines (16): CCU-SIN: 10/2006
5.64: SATA Azores (101): BOS-PDL: 04/2010
5.64: NorthWest (46): ICN-NRT-SEA: 10/2007
5.54: Ethiopian Airlines (95): ADD-BOM: 01/2010
5.46: Icelandair (83): KEF-BOS: 08/2009
5.39: LOT (54): WAW-JFK: 06/2008
5.21: Egypt Air (73): CAI-IST: 02/2009
5.11: Tunisair (115): TUN-ORY: 12/2010
5.07: TACA (66): JFK-SAP: 01/2009
4.89: TAAG Angola (117): TMS-LAD: 12/2010
4.42: Air France: CDG-JNB (25): 08/2007

ECONOMY: Long + Medium:
9.26: Air India (48): JFK-DEL: 02/2008
7.38: Avianca (01): BOG-LIM: 07/2006
7.07: Sri Lankan (62): KWI-CMB: 12/2008
7.00: LAN (94): IPC-SCL: 01/2010
6.81: STP Airways/Euro Atlantic (116): LIS-TMS: 12/2010
6.67: Air Malta (124): MLA-FRA: 04/2011
6.63: Vladavia (126): KHV-PEK: 06/2011
6.41: Air North (127): 06/2011
6.41: Avianca (78): JFK-BOG: 05/2009
6.41: American Airlines (58): LHR-BOS: 11/2008
6.39: Condor (85): SEZ-FRA: 09/2009
6.26: Jet Blue (21): CUN-JFK: 02/2007
6.11: Caribbean Airlines (119): POS-FLL: 01/2011
6.06: Air Canada (04): YYZ-YVR: 09/2006
5.89: USA 3000 (19): PUJ-BDL: 01/2007
5.85: Spanair (69): MAD-LPA: 02/2009
5.79: Air New Zealand (42): RAR-NAN: 10/2007
5.52: Aerolineas (86): USH-AEP: 10/2009
5.46: TAP Air Portugal (23): OSL-LIS: 05/2007
5.19: Air Europa (70): LPA-MAD: 02/2009
5.16: Iberia (71): MAD-BOS: 02/2009
5.11: Air China (82): FRA-PEK: 08/2009
4.59: IR Aero (125): IKT-VVO: 06/2011

ECONOMY: Short
8.56: Paramount Airways (38): BLR-MAA: 09/2007
8.56: Kingfisher (64): HYD-CCU: 12/2008
8.24: Kingfisher (14): IXA-GAU: 10/2006
7.87: Indian (34): BOM-MAA: 09/2007
7.72: Alliance Air (13): CCU-IXA: 10/2006
7.57: Indian Airlines (10): DEL-CCU: 09/2006
7.23: West Jet (03): YYC-YVR: 09/2006
7.15: JetLite (37): BOM-GOI: 09/2007
6.98: Air Koryo (100): PEK-FNJ: 04/2010
6.70: Spice Jet (09): CCU-DEL: 09/2006
6.63: Air Fiji (44): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.63: Jazeera (67): DAM-KWI: 01/2009
6.58: Air Tran (02): EWR-MDW: 08/2006
6.48: Air India Express (63): CMB-MAA: 12/2008
6.44: CO Micronesia (39): ROR-YAP: 10/2007
6.41: Pacific Sun (43): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.37: Skybus (47): SWF-CMH: 02/2008
6.33: Kenya Airways (29): NBO-BJM: 08/2007
6.33: Sky Europe (56): LTN-BTS: 10/2008
6.31: Indigo (15): GAU-CCU: 10/2006
6.31: easyJet (57): BUD-LTN: 11/2008
6.22: Air Link Swazi (28): MTS-JNB: 08/2007
6.22: Air India (36): HYD-BOM: 09/2007
6.13: Adam Air (07): SIN-CGK: 09/2006
6.13: Air Rarotonga (41): RAR-AIT: 10/2007
6.04: Suriname Airways (118): PBM-POS: 01/2011
6.00: Transairways (27): INH-MPM: 08/2007
5.95: Air Canada (05): ALB-YYZ: 09/2006
5.85: SAS Norge (22): OSL-AES: 05/2007
5.81: LAM Mozambique (26): JNB-MPM: 08/2007
5.69: Air Deccan (12): IXZ-CCU: 10/2006
5.67: Rwanda Air Exp (30): KGL-NBO: 08/2007
5.52: Sevenair (114): TOE-TUN: 11/2010
5.37: Felix Airways (92): SCT-SAH: 12/2009
5.11: Aero Republica (76): BOG-CCS: 04/2009
5.07: Go Air (35): MAA-HYD: 09/2007
5.04: Biman (121): DAC-CGP: 01/2011
5.00: Sky Airline (51): IQQ-SCL: 06/2008
4.96: United Bangla (122): CGP-DAC: 01/2011
4.96: Valuair (08): CGK-SIN: 09/2006
4.78: Air Comet Chile (50): SCL-IQQ: 06/2008
4.74: Fly 540 (31): MYD-LAU: 08/2007
4.33: Viva Aerobus (20): ELP-MTY: 02/2007
4.11: Air Sahara (11): CCU-BOM: 09/2006

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul)
(Note on Date: Dates are modified to be +/- 3 days from actual flight date to not reveal actual flight pattern)

VII> Other Pictures:

(Whitehorse)

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Live, and let live.
48 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12688 times:

what a great report my friend!

All these old props are remembering on the hundred of thousands interesting black/white and dias my dad have in his collection from the 60s/70s/80s/90s and still from the 2000s of these old birds around the globe!

Cheers
Avianca



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12639 times:

Hi Alex

Fantastic report and some really great pics. Wonderful that in 2011, you were able to fly on a HS748. Quite an amazing little workhorse. A shame they are no longer around here in Europe. Loved your pics of the flight. Shame the onboard service wasn't a little warmer or that you did not get much to eat. On my 8 stopper Dash 8 flight to ISA last year in Australia, we were offered snacks on every sector (some no longer than 40 mins) and we were provided with a salad roll/sandwich on the longer sector for lunch!

Your report is very timely. I am in the midst of planning some flights in Canada for September this year. I've found a very interesting 6 stopper (dash 8) on Air Creebec up to La Grande, QC, and then back to YUL on an Air Inuit 737-200C !

Thanks again

Palmjet



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12584 times:

Hola Alex, thanks again for another report of your exotic adventures. For some reason Northern Canada really seem different from Siberia, despite the places being roughly the same. And of course no "mock-USA" art in the airport terminals  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
With 3 weeks to kill, I decide to spend it somewhere new - after spending an agonizing night over lots of wine at a favorite CCS haunt,

With you being such a well-traveled man, it's sometimes hard to wrap the mind around the fact that you actually live in CCS. Hardly any reports from you have originated from your home airport. How much "miserable" time do you spend at home anyways?  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Airport - Internal:

Hmm, interesting to see *A marking their presence at the airport. Suppose no Lounge for *G?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Our aircraft: the beautiful – and LOUD - Air North HS7)

A little voice in my mind instantly began shouting EASYJET, upon first laying eyes on the pics of the plane. I must agree to this alter-ego of mine, they really look similar.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Dawson baggage claim)

Wow, perhaps the most personal baggage pickup I've ever seen. Did the handler greet the pax, and hand them their suitcase personally?

Thanks for sharing
//Jonas



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User currently offlineTravelsUK From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12573 times:

FANTASTIC! Thanks for such a great TR Alex

Cheers!


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12566 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):
what a great report my friend!

= Thanks a lot  .

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):
All these old props are remembering on the hundred of thousands interesting black/white and dias my dad have in his collection from the 60s/70s/80s/90s and still from the 2000s of these old birds around the globe!

= What did your dad do? Have you ever thought of putting them online?

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
Fantastic report and some really great pics. Wonderful that in 2011, you were able to fly on a HS748.

?

= Amazing isn't it ... my new motto is to try these before they all leave us - can always find newer aircraft later on.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
On my 8 stopper Dash 8 flight to ISA last year in Australia, we were offered snacks on every sector (some no longer than 40 mins) and we were provided with a salad roll/sandwich on the longer sector for lunch!

= Wow. That is pretty impressive. I can't recall ... did you do a TR?

Quoting palmjet (Reply 2):
Your report is very timely. I am in the midst of planning some flights in Canada for September this year. I've found a very interesting 6 stopper (dash 8) on Air Creebec up to La Grande, QC, and then back to YUL on an Air Inuit 737-200C !

= I ALMOST got on to Air Inuit ... let me know if you need ideas/contacts. I have a bunch now - and stay tuned, there may be other stuff coming up   ...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 3):
Hola Alex, thanks again for another report of your exotic adventures. For some reason Northern Canada really seem different from Siberia, despite the places being roughly the same. And of course no "mock-USA" art in the airport terminals  

= Absolutely - amazing though that I was right not on the "other side" of the Bering Strait a few days earlier. Have to admit though, the Russian airports were more advanced.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 3):
With you being such a well-traveled man, it's sometimes hard to wrap the mind around the fact that you actually live in CCS. Hardly any reports from you have originated from your home airport. How much "miserable" time do you spend at home anyways?  

= Sad isn't it ... am in Australia right now. I was in CCS for a whole 37 official days in 2011.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 3):
Hmm, interesting to see *A marking their presence at the airport. Suppose no Lounge for *G?

= I don't know. AC was the only other airline - until WS began service.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 3):
Wow, perhaps the most personal baggage pickup I've ever seen. Did the handler greet the pax, and hand them their suitcase personally?

Thanks for sharing
//Jonas

= Haha ... they should have. What a great idea!

Thanks again for reading everyone. I continue to be surprised at how few Canada reports are out there outside the main AC longhaul to a few cities.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12562 times:

Hi Alex !

Thanks for another fantastic report with very nice pictures! Something unusual again as you promised ! Very nice to still be able to fly the HS 748.

I agree that the service for such a short flight could at least had buy on board.

How long did you stay in Inuvik and how did you get back ?

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man



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User currently onlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 742 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12543 times:

Alex,

a whole story absolutely amazing...again and again,
your report are always entertaining!
Your cabin shots are always perfect
and this flushing system rather basic.

many thanks for this new exclusivity

EAS

[Edited 2012-03-04 12:33:28]


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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12532 times:

Nice report Alex - is this the only HS 7 airline operating? Very nice for you to get to have a look around the great Canadian North! It'd be great next time if you put a GCmap in so we can see where you are.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Bathroom – something unique for sure)

Very cool - not seen an airline bathroom with an exit in before



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12434 times:

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 4):

FANTASTIC! Thanks for such a great TR Alex

Cheers!

= Thanks a lot  .

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
Thanks for another fantastic report with very nice pictures! Something unusual again as you promised ! Very nice to still be able to fly the HS 748.

= Yes. The HS7 is quite a beautiful, albeit LOUD, machine. Told you, for you, I'd would do something more unique ...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
How long did you stay in Inuvik and how did you get back ?

= I was in Inuvik for 3 days - rather odd and interesting place. You will just have to wait and see how I got back   ...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man

= Actually, I am more looking forward to your report (hint hint). When can we expect it?

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 7):
Alex,

a whole story absolutely amazing...again and again,
your report are always entertaining!
Your cabin shots are always perfect
and this flushing system rather basic.

many thanks for this new exclusivity

EAS

= Thanks EAS. I decided to take a break from Africa  . But, I have 2 fantastic Africa reports in queue ... and my friend is thinking of Bangui for NY-eve. How exotic would that be!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Nice report Alex - is this the only HS 7 airline operating? Very nice for you to get to have a look around the great Canadian North! It'd be great next time if you put a GCmap in so we can see where you are.

= I believe Air Inuit has a HS7 flying around as well ... can some others confirm what other airlines have these beautiful aircraft still in commercial passenger service?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Very cool - not seen an airline bathroom with an exit in before

= Haha ... yes! It was quite the weird feeling.

Thanks a lot for stopping by everyone.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12425 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):
When can we expect it?

Probably tomorrow night...

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 9):
You will just have to wait and see how I got back

Sounds very promising !

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12352 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 5):
= What did your dad do? Have you ever thought of putting them online?

well he is one of the most senior spotter in Europe if not the world... more than 50 years of work...
Thought many times to do it, but well it will toke time, specially he is still using old school dias



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12340 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
It'd be great next time if you put a GCmap in so we can see where you are.

= I agree with this one. And, it was my oversight as I did have every intention for it. Here is one now to visually orientate.

Saludos,
A




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User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12322 times:

Hi A.,

thanks a lot for sharing your experience of what is certainly one of the most unique flights in a developed country. Let this flight take place in a less developed environment and the soft product will certainly less blah-ish, more Olga-ish  

I can relate very well to your verdict at the end...

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):

Like any of my other reports on segments such as this, I did not fly Air North to see whether it was the NH/9W/SQ of the North. I took it to experience an exotic carrier and that took me to places I never knew existed. In this respect, Air North did not disappoint.

... exactly the same thoughts I had after my multi-leg Metroliner trip in Bolivia in December.


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2269 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12272 times:

Hi Alex,

Good to see another TR.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
After 2 days of sightseeing in Whitehorse, it was time to leave - really don't think there is much to do beyond that.

Well, Whitehorse isn't exactly known as a touristic destination, is it?   Any gold rush museums there?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
So the first report in this "CANADA SERIES" is how I went from Vancouver to one of the most northernmost habitats in the world - Inuvik (YEV). Inuvik (YEV) is past the Arctic Circle and would afford me the opportunity to fly one of the last remaining Hawker Siddley HS-748 aircraft in the world.

Yes, indeed a very interesting route. Perhaps a more interesting destination than VVO, and places that few people know exist. Seeing a wingletted 737 next to a HS-748 is quite strange.

So Inuvik is in the Northwest Territories, right? I thought I saw it on Canadian North's routemap.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
She said only 1 other person was going all the way to Inuvik, handed me a boarding pass, and told me to "be comfortable and grab a coffee". She would come get me when boarding started  . This was new! It was going to be an interesting experience for sure - and reminded me of my 2 stop turbo-prop experience on the AN4 a few weeks earlier in Siberia.

Hmmm... sooo... An-24 or HS-748?  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Apparently, flights going to the "North", do not need to do security clearance.

You know, that's different enough from what happens in the USA (and most other places) for most commercial flights that it could be an attraction in itself  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The other thing I noticed is how segregated the indigenous Canadian people are in their own country. Pretty sad for a country that calls itself so progressive.

The northern airports also incorporated native design better - though, the airports in Siberia actually looked more modern.

Interesting--I have no idea about the segregation issues in Canada--do you mean geographically or in another sense?

Good to know some airports preserve their traditional design.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The aircraft seemed to be well maintained, though having the rows in front occupied with target and strapped in took some time to get used to. The other highlight - just like with IR Aero was the bathroom. And this despite their being no poo-poo around. The bathroom area was "open" and exposed the door - I felt I was more like in a WW2 plane than a commercial aircraft. It felt like a completely different era - very hard to explain. Just take a look!

Incredible. I guess you're safer there in case of an emergency, though  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Dawson baggage claim)

Hah, I really like these sorts of things!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
As I alluded to, my flight definitely did not have anyone as memorable as Olga. In fact, the attendant was rather generic - she was there with the beverages, cookies, etc., but made no significant effort to get to know her passengers or be particularly warm during any leg of the flight.

That's a shame--I'd've expected a bit more in Canada than in Russia. But I guess it's not a total surprise--I find the US very "fake" or "cold" in inter-human relations so maybe it's the same in Canada.

Thanks for taking the time to write up the TR!

I love to read them.


User currently offline9w748capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 544 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12134 times:

Awesome report as always Mr. abrelosojos - I remember the first time I flew to YOW several years back how cool it was to see check-in desks for "Bearskin airlines" and the like. Indeed it is quite sad how the aboriginal peoples of Canada are rather segregated from the rest of the country. Would love to see some pics of Inuvik when you get a chance - I've always wondered what a place like that would look like. Thanks!

User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12041 times:

Hi Alex,

wonderful to read about your HS748 experience. What a fantastic aircraft to get a ride on.
I'm impressed by your travelling lately again. You sure manage to find interesting destinations.
During my airline time I once almost booked a trip to Canada to visit some of these places, and to get on a First Air 727 and the HS748 myself, but unfortunately I never materialized this. Maybe I should have a look at this again, since this area really fascinates me.

Drop me a line when you're around my place someday, like we missed eachother last time.

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinedreamlinerAL From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12003 times:

Beautiful as usual.

Was a surprise actually because I've got a ticket with Air North for the month of may with the same flights but in opposite direction getting there on Canadian North from Norman Wells

Was possible to get out of the aircraft in the two little towns during the stop?

Thanks again for the amazing TR anytime you post them

Dream


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12005 times:

Quoting volvair (Reply 13):
thanks a lot for sharing your experience of what is certainly one of the most unique flights in a developed country. Let this flight take place in a less developed environment and the soft product will certainly less blah-ish, more Olga-ish  

= Absolutely - for better or for worse, the person would have probably been subject to better story telling  .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
Well, Whitehorse isn't exactly known as a touristic destination, is it?   Any gold rush museums there?

= Actually, YXY is apparently a rather big tourist destination - with lots of Japanese and Germans. DE still flies a triangular FRA-YXY-ANC-FRA I believe. I would not want to be there in the winter however.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
Yes, indeed a very interesting route. Perhaps a more interesting destination than VVO, and places that few people know exist. Seeing a wingletted 737 next to a HS-748 is quite strange.

= Fair enough  .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
So Inuvik is in the Northwest Territories, right? I thought I saw it on Canadian North's routemap.

= It is in NWT - apparently, NWT and Yukon used to be together ... or might be confusing that with Nunavut?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
Hmmm... sooo... An-24 or HS-748?  

= Very tough question. Believe it or not, AN24 is actually a quieter aircraft than the HS-748. But, I think the AN4 has scarred me thanks to those sudden drops and poop courtesy of Ir Aero. Besides, when can you be on an aircraft as loud as the HS7 again!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 14):
Interesting--I have no idea about the segregation issues in Canada--do you mean geographically or in another sense?

= Both. Though, the Canadians probably have made F A R more progress than the Australians. I just found out that the Australian constitution does not even recognize them as the original people or something like that.

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 15):
Awesome report as always Mr. abrelosojos - I remember the first time I flew to YOW several years back how cool it was to see check-in desks for "Bearskin airlines" and the like. Indeed it is quite sad how the aboriginal peoples of Canada are rather segregated from the rest of the country. Would love to see some pics of Inuvik when you get a chance - I've always wondered what a place like that would look like. Thanks!

= Thanks a lot. What were you doing in YOW? You know, I almost got on Bearskin Airlines - wanted to try their YUL to YOW flight. Oh, was going to ask ... the 748 in your nickname is from the Boeing or the Hawker?

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):
wonderful to read about your HS748 experience. What a fantastic aircraft to get a ride on.
I'm impressed by your travelling lately again. You sure manage to find interesting destinations.
During my airline time I once almost booked a trip to Canada to visit some of these places, and to get on a First Air 727 and the HS748 myself, but unfortunately I never materialized this. Maybe I should have a look at this again, since this area really fascinates me.

= Thanks Eric. Well, they are still flying ... so you should probably make the trip sooner rather than later. ATR's are replacing a lot of them.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):
Drop me a line when you're around my place someday, like we missed eachother last time.

Eric

= I will. It was weird to be in the KL crew room last time in AMS and thinking of you.

Thanks again for stopping by.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12001 times:

Quoting dreamlinerAL (Reply 17):
Beautiful as usual.

= Thanks a lot.

Quoting dreamlinerAL (Reply 17):
Was a surprise actually because I've got a ticket with Air North for the month of may with the same flights but in opposite direction getting there on Canadian North from Norman Wells

= Are we going to be getting trip reports?

Quoting dreamlinerAL (Reply 17):
Was possible to get out of the aircraft in the two little towns during the stop?

= Yes. Check out the pictures.

Quoting dreamlinerAL (Reply 17):
Thanks again for the amazing TR anytime you post them

= You're welcome.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2269 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11955 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 18):
Actually, YXY is apparently a rather big tourist destination - with lots of Japanese and Germans. DE still flies a triangular FRA-YXY-ANC-FRA I believe.

Wow. It seems like my knowledge of Northern Canadian stuff/aviation/routes is minimal. I had no idea YXY would have an intercontinental route (and never checked), thanks for the info!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 18):
It is in NWT - apparently, NWT and Yukon used to be together ... or might be confusing that with Nunavut?

I think that was Nunavut... But I'm not 100% sure.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 18):
Very tough question. Believe it or not, AN24 is actually a quieter aircraft than the HS-748. But, I think the AN4 has scarred me thanks to those sudden drops and poop courtesy of Ir Aero. Besides, when can you be on an aircraft as loud as the HS7 again!

Haha. Well, I suppose it remains a tough choice. The HS-748 is more of a classic, I guess.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 18):
Both. Though, the Canadians probably have made F A R more progress than the Australians. I just found out that the Australian constitution does not even recognize them as the original people or something like that.

Hmmm... honestly, I had no idea that was an issue in Canada. I do know about Australia's problems though--very strange, considering my distance from Canada and from Australia respectively... then again, I watched some Australian shows on TV, but only shows produced in Canada--not about Canada.

Thanks again!


User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2158 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 11829 times:

Great TR!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
a call from a friend in Canada and the subsequent discussion led me to an executive decision --- I was going back to Canada for the first time 2008

Hmm.......I wonder who  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Apparently, flights going to the "North", do not need to do security clearance. How quaint ... an ironic. I mean, Canada is pretty "North" itself. But within Canada, a place like Whitehorse in not considered "North". Haha. Perspective, I guess?

How funny!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Dawson “Airport”)

Reminds me of the Coach USA transit stops we'd have to disembark at during my days taking the bus between ND and MDW or ORD. In days with lower demand, we had the pleasure of 30 minute "layovers" in Hammond, IN or lovely Michigan City and these airports look no different.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Bathroom – something unique for sure)

The Lovely Lavs pictures. I suppose this is just for the antique aircraft kick?

Thanks, friend!



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User currently offlinedreamlinerAL From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11805 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 19):
Yes. Check out the pictures.

Thank you Alex for the answer. I've "eaten" the TR already three times for how I like it. I just thought you might have stop on those little towns for the night or so

That's great , they allow you to get inside and out

Aprecciate a lot. Thanks

Dream


User currently offlineBOACCunard From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 11746 times:

Well, after your Ir Aero trip report this looks like first class on SQ. Or at least business class. No feces smeared around the lav or rapid altitude changes? This is the lap of luxury!

You do seem to be on a roll with exotic turboprops in the far north lately. And it is a lot of fun to read about it. So thanks as always for sharing.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 18):
Actually, YXY is apparently a rather big tourist destination - with lots of Japanese and Germans.

   In the scheme of global tourism I would hardly call Whitehorse a tourist Mecca but it is not really an obscure destination either. It is pretty close to places in Alaska that are very popular tourist destinations, which helps it.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 18):
= It is in NWT - apparently, NWT and Yukon used to be together ... or might be confusing that with Nunavut?
Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
I think that was Nunavut... But I'm not 100% sure.

You're both correct. Nunavut is a very new territory, having been created from part of NWT in 1999. But Yukon was also once part of NWT, becoming its own territory in 1898 owing to the gold rush. Nearly all of northern and western Canada once belonged to NWT. Even a good deal of Ontario and Quebec's territory (though not the very populous southern parts) used to be part of NWT, along with the entirety of Albert and Saskatchewan, etc.

See here for detail of the territorial evolution of Canada.



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5073 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11646 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
Wow. It seems like my knowledge of Northern Canadian stuff/aviation/routes is minimal. I had no idea YXY would have an intercontinental route (and never checked), thanks for the info!

= One of the main reasons for going to northern Canada was because there was so little information out there on it. YXY is also rumored to be getting Eidleweiss service. We shall see ...

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
Hmmm... honestly, I had no idea that was an issue in Canada. I do know about Australia's problems though--very strange, considering my distance from Canada and from Australia respectively... then again, I watched some Australian shows on TV, but only shows produced in Canada--not about Canada.

= To be fair, Canada has seemingly made generous progress in terms of reconciliation, but look at the make-up of a bar in any cosmopolitan city and you'll know what I mean ... (btw, that is my personal yardstick on racial inclusion).

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 21):
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
a call from a friend in Canada and the subsequent discussion led me to an executive decision --- I was going back to Canada for the first time 2008

Hmm.......I wonder who  

= Your new BFF   ...

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 21):
Reminds me of the Coach USA transit stops we'd have to disembark at during my days taking the bus between ND and MDW or ORD. In days with lower demand, we had the pleasure of 30 minute "layovers" in Hammond, IN or lovely Michigan City and these airports look no different.

= I had to Google where Hammond and Michigan City were.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 21):
The Lovely Lavs pictures. I suppose this is just for the antique aircraft kick?

= Look - at least I don't do anything creepy in the lavs like some people out there   ...

Quoting dreamlinerAL (Reply 22):
I just thought you might have stop on those little towns for the night or so

= I wish I could. Between the really poor service schedules, lack of hotels, and even less information on them, it became really hard to plan. Thankfully, I was able to visit Inuvik and it felt like the middle of nowhere.

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 23):
Well, after your Ir Aero trip report this looks like first class on SQ. Or at least business class. No feces smeared around the lav or rapid altitude changes? This is the lap of luxury!

= Haha. Ya, life is all about being relative right?

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 23):
You do seem to be on a roll with exotic turboprops in the far north lately. And it is a lot of fun to read about it. So thanks as always for sharing.

= Sadly, the exotic turboprop days are almost over ... still got to log the IL8, but other than that, it is all done.

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 23):
See here for detail of the territorial evolution of Canada.

= Wow. Thanks for this!

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 23):
Even a good deal of Ontario and Quebec's territory (though not the very populous southern parts) used to be part of NWT, along with the entirety of Albert and Saskatchewan, etc.

= Wow. Really. I did some fascinating reading and it amazes me the northern Quebec can't just break out and be their own Territory?

Thanks a lot for stopping by.


Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
25 djb77 : Many thanks for your report! It brought back memories of my first flights back in July 1985 with BA on their Highland Division "Budgie", G-BCOF Glen F
26 Post contains links palmjet : Hi Alex If you have any suggestions re Air Inuit, would be grateful to hear them. Let me know the best way of getting in contact. Am thinking of booki
27 burj : Wow...just WOW...you always seem to have the best adventures! It is true that life that no matter where you live...there is some place even more "up n
28 Post contains images CrimsonNL : Hi Alex, great exotic report as usual The HS looks fantastic and I'm sure those engines make a lot of noise! Did you find an exotic option back South
29 MSS658 : Hi Alex Great trip report you have got there! Thanks for sharing it with us. First time I learn about this airline! I found the HS748 too still look a
30 Post contains images stipica : HI Alex! this is like watching "Northern Exposure" and we all waiting for Marilyn and her wisdom hehe I know that you are aware of how lucky you are (
31 flightsimboy : Where in the world will Alex be next??? That is what I can say about you in a nutshell When I tell people at work it is my dream to go to the great wh
32 Post contains images abrelosojos : = Cool. I had to actually look up those codes! Curious (and I know you were 8), but was there a meal service? = Why don't you email me, and I will pa
33 palmjet : Hi Alex Done! Hope it does not end up in your junkmail folder.. PS I just love the name "Old Crow" - it evokes so many different images!
34 PlaneHunter : Hi Alex, great report about a rare airline and a rare type! I'm not a fan of these kinds of planes, but I'd like to try Air North one day. PH
35 abrelosojos : = Haha. BTW, I just got your email, and will respond momentarily. = PH, I am curious - you have mentioned this before as well - but, why are you not
36 PlaneHunter : Hi Alex, it's just my personal taste. I've never found most Russian types and most older Western aircraft types attractive. PH
37 palmjet : Hi Alex Just checked my emails - but nothing yet? Can you let me know - have been having some probs with emails lately so if you've already sent somet
38 Post contains images stipica : Hi ping ! sorry maybe I crossed the line ... "fell better" I can only say welcome to the club ... but for me it is unfortunately a constant ...given t
39 Post contains images abrelosojos : = Oh PH, you're missing out ... = Just got your email. It has been quite hectic here is Australia, and I will respond today. = What I am told is that
40 Post contains links and images abrelosojos : Meant to upload a video during take-off roll to demonstrate noise, but could not find the file. Anyways, just found it. Take a look (turn up the volum
41 Post contains images stipica : bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz bzzzzzzzzzzzz nice music but album is more stunning ...stipica
42 reifel : Hi Alex, excellent report once again, very seldom stuff. Thanks a lot for sharing!
43 globalflyer : Yet another excellent report! That washroom looked really scary! So very cool to see these old birds plying the sky! Thanks for sharing!
44 Post contains links GMPEC : Interesting perspective. Thanks. The older part (check-in and security area) was built in 1986, replaced the original terminal which was a converted W
45 ANM604 : Excellent trip report, and very nice pictures! If I may ask, did you fly AC or 4N YVR-YXY? Sorry to hear about your F/A, that sounds very unusual, as
46 Post contains images FighterPilot : Great trip report! As a HS748 FO for another Canadian company, seeing one of the few remaining pax services on a 748 is interesting. I only fly cargo
47 Post contains images abrelosojos : = Agreed . = You're welcome. Thanks for stopping by. = Ya. But I think the washroom on board my Ir Aero flight was far worse ... = Wow, thanks for th
48 flightsimboy : Hey Alex, How do you link to a video via the photo. That is cool. I have some Etihad videos I would like to share.
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