kretek From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 93 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6047 times:
The big trip finally arrived for me and my 2 fellow companions on an annual pilgrimage to the east coast. Usually I am very excited when it comes to flying. But not this time. It was by no means going to be a 100% relaxed city escape. It was a 1 day health workshop/meeting organised by an important world organisation based in Geneva. Being residents in the west of this huge island called Australia, this meant flying to the east coast 1 day prior to the meeting and flying back home immediately after the meeting finishes (in other words, I would only be spending 1 night in Sydney). . Summertime is in full swing, which meant 3 hours of lost time due to time difference between the west and east coast and a flying time of 3.5 hours, it really meant I would be losing about 8 hours of a day if you include travelling to airport and settling into the hotel. What it means is we only get to see Sydney at dinner time and after that straight back to the hotel for a rest before business begins the next day.
A rather tiring journey to spend just 1 night in Sydney with a need to adjust my body clock. On the other hand, being a confessed airline nutter, an oppurtunity to fly to the east coast where normally I (and the majority of West Australians) would fly to Indonesia or Singapore instead (Bali is only 3.5 hours flying time).
The Journey - Perth to Sydney
21 Nov 2011 Qantas VH-OGS “Roma” Boeing 767-338 ER QF576
Dep 08:05 on time Sched Arrival 15:20 -Actual Arrival 14:55
Flight time 3.5 hours
So here we are, at Perth Domestic Airport on a Monday morning. I was expecting check-in queues to be snaking around the terminal. Where are all the cashed up miners getting ready to jet off to work? Normally you'd hear horror stories in the papers of the overcrowded domestic terminal.
A cabin luggage more than sufficed for the 1 night stay and having done an on-line check in the night before, I headed straight to security and the gates.
Time for plane spotting like any airline nutters would do – sorry, it is a must on any travels.
I'd love to holiday in Western Australia flying Skywest, but the reality is, I'd rather fly to Bali becauses it is cheaper!
The international terminal (which I tend to use more) as you can see is well and truly separated from the domestic terminal.
Still handsome as ever - the plane that would carry me to Sydney
the old and new Virgin Australia liveries
Virgin Australia's new livery – obviously the designers were working on a very tight budget that moths flew out.
In my opinion, just bland.
The flight safety video shown on Qantas flights to me feels very clinical. It is like being a lectured in an emergency drill classroom by a pilot who has a monotonous and authoritative voice. I just don't feel the warmth of the welcome greeting in the safety video nor can I recall being shown closing greetings by smiling Qantas flight attendants. Yes, this is serious business and we are talking about what to do in an emergency situation, but the safety video does not have the welcoming or closing greetings of TG, SQ, CX or GA.
Perth CBD in the background
Skippers aviation doing the intrastate runs
Perth's domestic terminal scene
sun parched land typical of WA at this time of the year- just wait until you reach more inland
the view to the Swan Valley - Perth's wine region
the unforgiving and harsh landscape
I counted myself fortunate on this flight as there was no neighbour sitting next to me fighting over the arm rests (the joys of flying cattle class). Movies were shown on ancient TVs hanging from ceilings, felt like being in a museum from a bygone era, so I just did not bother watching. Looking around the cabin, there were only a few empty seats left. The 767 interior was starting to look tired. The floor, well, better not to take too much notice of it. Sand and hard to reach dirt by the walls cleaners can't be bothered or just don't have time to clean (time is money in today's corporate world). And w.c? Well, what do you expect, sticky floors.
Let's check out the facilities:
Approximately 45 mins into the flight, it was time to say goodbye to Western Australia:
near Experance, before crossing the Great Australian Bight
Breakfast was a choice of continental (cold serving of cereal and milk) or English Breakfast (we don't call it American Breakfast here). Hhhmmmm, a no brainer really, I'll go for the hot English breakfast. I just love the Main Affair, it is just so cute! Just barely enough to fill your rumbling tummy that makes one feel guilty when eating a Weight Watchers meal. Have to admit though, QF really serves up a nice brekky: a succulent scrambled egg that is not overly dry nor tastes like plastic; baked beans; a sausage; and a bacon. The smell of bacon permeated through the cabin, Who would want to choose the other option? Knowing what to expect with Qantas' "Weight Watchers"sized portions, out came the container my mum very kindly prepared – perkedel (Indonesian potato and meat pattie which I am sure the Dutch left their culinary trademark also known as frikadel - its just the Indos who can't pronounce 'f' and instead subtituted it with a 'p' and an 'e' between two consonants) and low GI red rice ( I ate ony some of it, really!). At least it will satisfly my hunger for the rest of the flight (after all, I will be missing lunch because by the time I check in to the hotel in Sydney, it will be dinner time and they are 3 hours ahead of Perth).
landfall near Port Lincoln, South Australia
Time was spent recuperating from the satisfying meal that actually makes you full. I was feeling a bit tired post meal (most likely due to blood being diverted from the brain to the gastro-intestinal system where it was needed most). So I just spent the remaining time reading the inflight magazine, trying to stay awake to taking some light naps- like a palliative patient going from a state of semi-consciousness to unconsciousness. Then 2 female flight attendants, donning the beautiful looking indigenous inspired design uniforms (not to be outdone by the exotic kebayas worn by SQ, MAS and GA FAs), were doing service runs ….”Ping” rang loudy in my head, and miraculously I woke from my semi-comatosed state.
Oh dear, not sure if you can fit in a SQ kebaya
Note: the above three pics were taken from an earlier flight which I never came around to writing a TR. I just love the indigenous motifs on the tie and long dress as long as they are worn by the right people
We were surprisingly served a nuts and seeds, blueberry and choc bar and a bottle of water. Tasted fabulous. By this time we had just flown past Canberra.
Not too bad for a domestic flight. If this was in Europe, or heaven forbid the US, we would just be offered a cold roll or a cookie.
Looking out of the window, what a contrast the south east of Australia is to the west. The parched dry inhospitable land has given way to lush greenery:
Time for descent and we flew over a national park (sorry, I am not really familiar with the east coast locations) and then it looked like we flew along the coast past a beach (?Cronulla), a white hotel and finally landfall at the airport.
Welcome to Sydney!
Flying back - Sydney to Perth
22 November 2011 Qantas QF 583 Boeing 767-336 ER reg VH -ZXE ETD 19:20 ATD19:45 ETA 21:15 ATA 21:40 flight time 4 hours 55 mins
Headed straight to the airport immediately after the meeting finished. :
At the airport, had plenty of time to do some window shopping and spotting. Our plane arrived late from Melbourne, which meant a delay in our departure to Perth.
my plane that would take me back to Perth
Upon entering the aircraft, J was very full with paid businessmen making the trip down west. Felt a bit weird as most of them stared at incoming pax trying to make their way to the back of the plane " hello, look at me, I am flying business class!''. I could not care less.
J seats were old business style reclining seats and it felt more like an upmarket cattle class. None of the luxurious and spacious feel of business class at some of the renowned airlines. I know this is a domestic flight, but flying time to Perth is almost 5 hours and can be the equivalent of an international flight. Qantas has perfected the art of seat management as most of the flights I have been on from Perth to to Sydney and back, Economy Class has always been very full.
This time round, no video safety demo was shown, but a manual one.
An uneventful flight, so not much to report.
some kind of chicken curry
Knowing what to expect from a Qantas meal, luckily I had some left over perkedel to keep me going.
Arrived in Perth, only had a hand carry bag, which meant I walked straight out to the exits and this ended my quick trip to Sydney.
mdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 337 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4947 times:
Hi Kretek, the meals you had are already very nice compared to an average short haul flight in the US or Europe. The majority of all US domestic flights do not serve free meals anymore, including very long sectors such as HNL-ORD. In Europe FR and other LCC flies many 4 hours+ sectors with no meal.
TravellerPlus From New Zealand, joined Nov 2008, 347 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4773 times:
Sorry, but I didn't enjoy this trip report as it was unnecessarily personal to post the picture and comment about the Qantas employee's ability to fit a uniform (especially for an airline that would never employ her). It demended you, not her.
What goes around comes around....unless your luggage is not on the carousel...
It makes a pleasant change to see the domestic terminal. Like you I usually am to be found over at the international. You're not wrong about the package deals in Asia being a lot cheaper than heading over East.
Quoting kretek (Thread starter): Where are all the cashed up miners getting ready to jet off to work?
I doubt it is that. Regular business travellers wouldn't be thinking like that because the novelty would have long worn off. More a case of people watching. It's perfectly common to look at people as they go by. Look at anyone sat on a bench in a public space and what are they doing? People watching and thinking, "what does he think he looks like with that ring through his nose and the ripped shirt?"
Thanks for sharing. As I said, it makes a pleasant change to see the PER domestic terminals.
nicktt From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4611 times:
I completely agree with you TravellerPlus. Not only is it dishonourable towards the F/A in question, it is also offensive to women as, Kretek, you have inappropriately suggested it is a necessity that female F/As should be of a certain size. I don't see how this is an acceptable comment, even in a forum dominated by males.
In the F/As defence, I'm sure she's fantastic at her job and makes passengers feel extremely welcome. I'd much rather have her serve me than some intimidating, tarted up doll from the likes of EK.
And in what way is that comment acceptable? It displays exactly the same disrespect for women as that you accuse the OP. And I suspect that the QF employee in question could just as readily put someone in his place were he to get cheeky. And rightly so.
chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 5990 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4475 times:
People calm down, the poster was just making a funny comment regarding the F/A. Hardly anything to get all bent out of shape over.
Anyhow I enjoyed the trip report, and yes here in the US that would resemble more the meal served in first class on a transcon flight which at times can go over 6 hours. In coach if you are lucky u get peanuts or pretzels, in some cases you get nothing. All BOB nowadas in these parts of the world, what a shame!
nicktt From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4242 times:
I'm stating a fact. Airlines such as EK use their F/As as the face of the airline. But of course, they won't employ just any woman for the job. A certain 'breed' of woman is handpicked through the rigorous selection process, they are hence scrutinised and adapted into this 'tarted up' undynamic character - this is what I would call a disrespect towards women, on behalf of the airlines.
However, we're going off topic here. The issue remains that the comment was inappropriate, but I see already that the photo in question has been removed by the OP, so I have nothing more to add.
Quoting Quokkas (Reply 8): And in what way is that comment acceptable? It displays exactly the same disrespect for women as that you accuse the OP.
fiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3695 times:
Many years ago, when I first flew with BA after a lengthy spell with other airlines, I was pleasantly surprised to see flight attendants in all shapes and sizes and of all ages, and whilst a young attractive female maybe good to look at, the experience of the older ones made one feel at ease.....
burj From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 856 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3270 times:
Quoting kretek (Thread starter): Breakfast was a choice of continental (cold serving of cereal and milk) or English Breakfast (we don't call it American Breakfast here).
I don't know ANYONE who would call that American breakfast....eating beans for breakfast is something we (fortunately) did not inherit from the British!
Quoting kretek (Thread starter): Not too bad for a domestic flight. If this was in Europe, or heaven forbid the US, we would just be offered a cold roll or a cookie.
If you are LUCKY you'll be offered peanuts or pretzels or MAYBE Biscoff cookies.... In fact if you can fly from the mainland to Hawaii and be offered NOTHING...a friend flew Chicago to Hawaii and the buy on board ran out before they got to him so he had NOTHING to eat for the entire flight!
777MAS From Malaysia, joined Sep 2003, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2747 times:
Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 12): We were surprisingly served a nuts and seeds, blueberry and choc bar and a bottle of water. Tasted fabulous. By this time we had just flown past Canberra.
Not too bad for a domestic flight. If this was in Europe, or heaven forbid the US, we would just be offered a cold roll or a cookie.
Nope, even on a 5-hour Hawaii-LA flight on UA, it was either BOB or nothing. (They did have 2 rounds of drinks service, though). But at least they're not like certain LCCs that have a "no outside food/drinks" policy! Such LCCs would object to your perkedel, but not UA
fiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 288 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2308 times:
Quoting Thai744 (Reply 16): I would do ANYTHING to avoid the QF 767's on a trans-Australia flight. Particularly when the A330's of both QF and DJ are available. Even the "old" 744 of QF would be preferable.
I would agree, except when they used to fly 737's, then a 767 was much more desirable.