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Day Of The Albino Planes: HEL-JOE-TLL-HEL  
User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
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Introduction

As I described on my earlier report Estonian Air has been on a bit of an expansion spree over here in Finland this spring. So here is my story about my second trip to log their new regional Finnish routes, this time out of the eastern city of Joensuu - hopefully this trip will turn out to be a bit more successful than the fiasco last time: How Not To Deice A Plane: HEL-RIX-TLL (by FlyingFinn76 Mar 26 2012 in Trip Reports)

The bookings were quite simple - I booked both OV segments during their sale in December 2011. JOE-TLL was 35 EUR, TLL-HEL an hour later (which should be plenty of time for TLL) 30 EUR.

To get to Joensuu I first thought about taking the train as I’ve never traveled with train there and nowadays VR is offering some nice special fares if you book early enough. Besides with only AY (mostly operated by BE) flying to JOE one-way ticket prices are of course astronomical. But then two things happened: firstly AY introduced their 69 EUR domestic roundtrip fares to several destinations, including JOE and I figured out that the fare rules on these cheap fares also allow them to be combined as open-jaws. Since I needed a way to get from KOK to HEL (pretty much exactly on the opposite end of Finland from JOE) in April and the flight situation there was similar I booked an open jaw HEL-JOE/KOK-HEL ticket for around 59 EUR (the fares are cheaper when you book using other sites than Finnair’s as their TSC is a ridiculous 20 EUR). More on that return segment on a later trip report, but let’s focus on Joensuu for now.

So here’s another simple itinerary for a (half) day trip:

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Wednesday 28.3

With my flight departing not until eleven I had some time to run a few long overdue errands during the morning before leaving my car at the parking place of a shopping mall near the airport - they have free parking with no time limits on the outdoor lot and Finavia parking charges are ridiculously high - and catching a bus for the five minute ride to the airport.

T2 is quite empty with the morning rush already way behind - and besides it is Wednesday, the slowest travel day of the week. I get into an argument with one of the security agents as she says I have to take both my laptop and Ipad out of the bag despite me passing through quite a few checks with the Ipad there during the last weeks... I’m with Eric here - I wish the rules would be clear and consistent instead of being made up on the spot!

With plenty of time on my hands I do some shopping - need to add a more partner credits to my AY Plus account for the 20K point challenge and actually buy a pair of noise cancelling headsets as an impulse purchase - well sort of as I need new headphones anyway.

A Baltic Phoenix about to depart:

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That queue on the background is the boarding one for DY’s RVN flight - thanks to the terminal design on the old part of HEL and Finavia’s decision to cram all the available floor space full of retail establishments many gates, including this one lack any real waiting areas, thus a full flight will block the walkway - stupid and very annoying:

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Some time ago I complained about there being hardly any toilets (as they had been replaced by... yes, more retail space). Here’s Finavia’s revenge - move toilets upstairs as nobody will shop there anyway:

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I wanted to head to the new O’Leary’s for an early lunch but it doesn’t open until eleven so I go to another cafe instead:

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Time to check out the new headphones:

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Near the boarding time printed on my OLCI boarding pass I mosey over the (bus) gate 20B where boarding starts right at the indicated time. I count 16 passengers in the holding pen downstairs including one child - quite a low load for the scheduled ATR 72, but this is domestic flying in Finland, especially mid-week - nothing strange there.

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Looks like Finavia has gotten some of these roomy Cobus buses:

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I’m pretty happy to see that we pull in front of OH-ATO, the newest plane on the flyBE Nordic fleet and less than five months old - and a new entry for my log as well:

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Albino - maybe they should christen her “Silas”:

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HEL - JOE
AY3847 Operated by flyBE Nordic
ATR72-500 OH-ATO
Seat 18A
11.04 - 12.04

Two young, blonde and very nice FAs on this flight. I manage to be the first one boarding and quickly take my seat on the penultimate row. A woman boarding after me asks the girl “Is this flight going to be absolutely full?” - come on, there were just a handful of us in the bus so do you expect the extra 56 passengers to perhaps be teleported (“Beam me down, Mr. FlyBE”) straight to the airplane!

The cabin looks very fresh as it should on a new bird like this:

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Thanks to the extra row compared to the older examples in the legroom isn’t exactly stellar, but okay since it is just me on the block of two:

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Normally I’d get annoyed by the Estonian accent in the prerecorded safety and departure announcements - it just feels so wrong - but today it seems appropriate considering what my main objective on this trip is.

Flight time today is announced as 55 minutes and push back (under our own engine power as pretty much always, yay!) is six minutes ahead of schedule.

Next door the second oldest -72 on the fleet, OH-ATF is being prepared for her next flight - let’s just hope there won’t be any alcohol, tobacco or firearms onboard:

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Over at the gate 12 an Air Finland 757 is parked - this can only mean one thing: another KF 717 has been substituted by this (it happens on and off, thanks to the KF schedule having precious little slack for any irregulars):

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I later found out that it was operating the busy flight up to KTT, apparently they were overbooked by such an amount of pax that getting this bird to operate the flight was a sensible option.

Must-have-an-717-in-a-report:

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What’s that red stripe on the base of the tail of this LOT E170 - I haven’t seen it before:

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Take off is from 22L so we are spared some taxi time:

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The fair city of Vantaa, home to me:

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Next we do something which only happens with turboprops - turn left and fly over the northern outskirts of Helsinki and the city of Vantaa:

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Notice the airport in the distance:

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This spaghetti junction just happens to be the busiest road intersection in the whole country - not too busy this time of the day:

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Nice overview of HEL:

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This picture shows quite clearly how the built up area of the Capital Region ends at the airport:

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This is where the loop rail line to the airport will split off the mainline - so typically Finnish to build this about 15 years too late and in a completely messed up way:

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Even though this flight carries only an AY code and tickets can only be bought via AY the service is still pure flyBE - BOB for everything. That is very bad and misleading in my opinion, just another scam AY seems to be so fond of running in recent times. Anyway I decide to splurge 3 EUR for a coffee - and am very disappointed to get some instant Nescafe crap instead of a good drip coffee like FC used to serve:

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The weather is very nice with clear skies so there are plenty of nice views of snowy landscapes below:

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This is the city of Kouvola, well known to a certain a.net legend and certain to make a top position if they ever decide to come up with a Finnish version of the book “Crap Towns”:

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The snaking river is Kymijoki, the cradle and nexus of the Finnish heavy forest industry for the last 150 years - a factory can be seen in the middle of the picture. Unfortunately most of these factories are being run down nowadays - like Bruce Springsteen put it: “These jobs are going, boys, and they ain’t coming back”:

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That X in the middle of the forest is the Selänpää airfield (EFSE), used mainly for paragliding:

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This is the garrison at Vekaranjärvi - the largest army training unit in the country and where a lot of people I know were stationed at:

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City of Mikkeli in the distance - I am quite surprised to see the runway of its airport having been cleared of snow as there haven’t been commercial flights for many years now (the last time I flew there was in 2004 I think). But I think the military is running some kind of staff shuttle flights nowadays:

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Unfortunately the skies get progressively more cloudy when we get closer to Joensuu:

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Soon we are descending through very thick clouds with some bumps as well. I chose a seat on the A side since usually the approach path goes right over the city and the views on this side are excellent - but today I can only catch a few glimpses thru the murk:

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On short finals:

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Landing is on runway 28 exactly an hour after departure, total flight time being around 55 minutes as announced.

Not exactly busy up here:

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Joensuu Airport

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Bye, pleased to meet you:

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The captain announced the outside temperature as two degrees and it certainly feels so. I walk quickly inside and shoot a few photos of the terminal:

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Have they gotten a new tower recently:

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Quite surprised to find a Turkish ad here - maybe JOE is their next destination in Finland:

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Inside this container is left on the baggage belt from our flight - it contains donated blood, most likely destined to the local hospital or emergency services:

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This airport started its life as Onttola airfield (Onttola being the place where it is located, surprisingly). During the war it was the main bomber base of the Finnish Air Force - here’s a propeller hub from a crashed JU-88 to commemorate that history:

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I watch OH-ATO departing back to HEL, with a far better load this time. Yes, this guy is wearing only a T-shirt. Must be heading to BKK or something like that:

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I have more than three hours and a lot of work to do so I buy a softdrink from the cafe, find a nice table with a power socket nearby and let it loose, thanks to the free Finavia wifi.

I make good progress and get to close a lot of things that have been hanging around. At some point passengers start trickling in - since there aren’t any other flights these must be my fellow pax on the TLL flight.

Since I’m in Karelia I of course have to try a local delicacy, a Karelian pie (with egg butter on top of it) - well it isn’t as good as my grandma made but still nice:

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Hmm - my trivia knowledge has failed me this time - I didn’t know JOE is the easternmost airport in the EU (well at least if you don’t count the faux overseas départements the French are so fond of. At least I’ll be remembering this tidbit the rest of my life:

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Kinda cool thinking that Finland has both the northernmost (IVL) and easternmost airport of the Union.

I was quite surprised that OLCI for Joensuu worked just fine on the OV website, so no need to visit the check in for me. I check the inbound flight from the Tallinn airport’s website - departed 18 minutes late and expected to arrive here ten minutes late. Around five minutes before that time they open up the security checkpoint so I head there - no problems with my OLCI boarding pass (to be honest the guy in front of me has one too).

The holding pen seems to have been improved since the last time I was here - I don’t remember there being this much seating space:

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I strike up a small conversation with the other OLCI guy - turns out he came from Moscow on Monday on the inaugural flight and says there were only eight pax on the inbound flight but a full welcome committee with “men in suits and speeches” at JOE. That flight was actually operated by a leased Fokker 50 from Denim Air (I wish they’d leased an BT F50 instead - that would’ve been the ultimate irony!) - the official reason given by Estonian Air on a press release was “too much demand for all pax to fit on a Saab 340” - maybe they had a huge delegation of officials flying back or something...

Soon enough I spot a familiar shape over the horizon, and once the plane has landed and breaks to make off the runway exit i notice it doesn’t look like the usual blue-colored OV one:

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Looks like this is turning into a day of the albinos:

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ES-ASO is Estonian Air Regional’s newest plane, only delivered some two weeks prior after spending quite some time grounded. This bird is quite a globetrotter - during its 22 year life it has spent time (among others) with Skyways in Sweden, Kendell Airlines and REX Regional Express Down Under, City-Air of Germany, and even OLT Express, likewise in Germany. Oh and Finns might find its prior (and original) Swedish registration quite funny: SE-KSI:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Joensuu_Airport_15.jpg

A warm welcomed new bird for my log.

I’m starting to feel a bit like 717flyer as I obsessively count both the disembarking (29) and about-to-board (21) passengers. Quite nice loads considering it is only the second flight on the route and there are 33 seats on that Saab.

Despite the plane arriving ten minutes late there doesn’t seem to be any hurry to start boarding. They refuel the plane and when the bowser pulls off I’m sure they will start (why delay it - heck most airlines I know are happy to fuel their planes with pax onboard) but no. It still takes a while before a ground agent emerges with a bag full of trash and radios our gate agent to start boarding - the reason for the delay will soon become apparent.

By being at the right place at the right time I’m of course the first one to walk to the apron. No problems with my OLCI boarding pass here either - pax names are simply ticked off a list. I ask the agent “21, did I get it right?” and she confirms that yes, this is the load today.

It has started raining outside - a horrible cold drizzle of supercooled water that coupled with some wind makes you feel miserable the second you step outside.

JOE - TLL
OV526
Saab 340 ES-ASO
Seat 11A
16.05 - 17.10

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Inside I say “Horrible weather” to the FA greeting (or more like just staring and smiling at) me. The response sounds weird, “Yes it is, yes it is” like it echoes or something. Then I realize that there are actually two FAs - standing behind the first one is the same blonde girl that served the honors on our January ARN-TLL a.net flight - a very nice girl who some of our entourage called hot but in my opinion she’s more of a neighbourhood girl type. Anyway I continue with “Hope the weather is better in Tallinn” which gets another “Yes it is, yes it is!” reply which reminds me of an old record player getting stuck...

I picked a seat on the last row because I enjoy the smell of the chemicals from the lavatory. The seat is a tight fit (and inflight the seat in front of me has an annoying habit of reclining even without the guy there doing it on purpose):

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For the record, I didn’t pee my pants - it’s the rain.

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I expected the two seats on the other side to stay empty and they do, so I stash my back bag under 11D and the guy in front of me’s rollaboard under 11F. He is very delighted at my offer to do this - well it doesn’t exactly fit into the tiny overhead either. It turns out he is actually on his way to get an eye operation in Tallinn - well considering the sorry state of public healthcare in this country I can hardly blame him for choosing the affordable and quick option...

Cabin checks seem to take forever - the process is like this:
- The new FA walks through the cabin very slowly, checking all seatbelts and bags.
- She walks back to the front.
- She comes back to the back.
- She locks the lavatory door next to me and is about to turn back.
- She realizes something, unlocks the lavatory door and takes a peek inside. No boogeymen there.
- She locks it again and walks back towards the front.
- She has a word with the younger FA.
- The younger FA performs the same cabin checks again, this time much faster.

When she reaches my row I say “Don’t you trust your colleague?” - she looks like she doesn’t know what to say, smiling confusedly. I decide to let her off the hook and say “But she is new, isn’t she?” to which she smiles and relaxes and says “Yes, she is.”. Later I notice the other FA is indeed wearing a “Trainee” badge -which is kinda weird as her name is not listed there. Maybe OV expects the attrition rate among trainees to be so high that it doesn’t bother spending money on name tags for them...

Still with the cabin check completed nothing much seems to be happening - so time to take a look at the inflight magazine - luckily they have a new issue since my last flight with OV a month ago:



Mr. Taskila’s soapbox:

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I tend to agree with this:

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So here are the new Finland routes - so where’s KOK I hear someone ask? Find out the answer in a TR near you in a couple of weeks:

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Finally at four, 20 minutes late the engines are started and five minutes later we leave the parking position, taxi to the end of runway 28 and take off.

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Wheels up © Jonas:

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The terrain around here is like this - lots of rolling hills covered with evergreens (and today snow). I grew up less than 150 kilometers from here so this all is very familiar to me:

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Into the murk we go - that albino color acts as a nice camouflage:

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And the moment we all love about flying - emerging into sunshine:

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Yes, those are two holes on the engine exhaust shield - the temperature changes are enormous there so no wonder corrosion happens:


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Cabin view:

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Quite soon it becomes apparent what the crew’s modus operandi is - the regular FA tells the trainee what to do and she does everything by herself when the trainer is probably enjoying the latest issue of “Modern Estonian Woman” or whatever is it that Estonian young women nowadays read. This has the nasty side effect of making everything happen on slow motion - I’m not blaming the trainee as we all have been there at some point in our careers but I think these things could be done in a bit more sensible way.

So preparing the inflight service takes a VERY long time - well I’m not really craving anything urgently so I listen to some nice tunes (Iron Maiden seems to be fitting today’s mood just fine) and enjoy the weather clearing up:

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I was buggered that I missed a certain view when flying up - but luckily I’m on the right side for that now:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Enroute_to_Tallinn_17.jpg

This is the airport at Utti (EFUT), near Kouvola. It is operated by Finavia, although the only user is the military - the helicopters of the elite unit of our army are based there. There actually has been some talk about trying to lure Ryanair to use it, but hopefully they won’t - LPP should be enough for them.

Finally the trainee FA reaches the back row with the service cart and efficiently traps me onto my seat:

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She has a hard time understanding that I want want her to place my coffee and the muffin on the tray table of 11D instead of my tray, but finally I get her to understand:

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717flyer now perks up - did I say “muffin”? Yes, this is the standard OV Regional service - a warm (nice!) muffin with drinks. After asking for coffee the FA offers me water or juice as well but I decline.

The service certainly was quite slow as I’m halfway through my cup of coffee when the captain already announces descent and arrival in 15 minutes. Quite murky over the Gulf of Finland - looks like the good weather of the morning has disappeared somewhere:

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Soon the Estonian north coast comes into view:

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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 7164 times:

The trainee FA comes and offers a candy (and locks the toilet again for landing):

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_4.jpg

The trainer FA sneaks up on me, spots me taking a photo and tells me to turn it off - I think she realizes that
a) I’m going to turn it sneakily back on as soon as she’s gone and
b) She just had a deja-vu moment as she told me the same thing (a couple of times) on our flight in January.

At least her smile tells me all that  .

So of course there are more photos:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_5.jpg

This is the Tallinn-Narva highway, continuing all the way to St. Petersburg (but not in that good a condition over the Russian side, not by a long shot):

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_6.jpg

Floods - a surefire sign that spring is indeed here:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_7.jpg

More floods on these dachas:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_8.jpg

Landing is on 26 after a bit over an hour in the air, 10 minutes late:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_9.jpg

Oh dear, more albino planes:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_10.jpg

And here’s the Denim Air F50, PH-JXK that operated the inaugural JOE flight two days prior. Hopefully she will be around for a while - wouldn’t mind logging a flight while enjoying her hospitability. That “fly@” logo belongs to the doomed-from-the-beginning Italian carrier FlyOristano:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_11.jpg

A Not-So-Smooth Tallinn Transfer

The “new” OV was boasting smooth transfers at their Tallinn hub. Let’s see how they perform:

1) Apron parking position. Bad. Many turboprops here are boarded at the gate. Not us.

Not sure what the “Lion’s City” is supposed to mean - maybe the “borrowed” this bus from Singapore:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_12.jpg

Bye:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Approach_13.jpg

2) Terminal packed. Absolutely. Tons of people everywhere. Lots of flights going out. Wifi overloaded and not working. Not good.

3) Lounge packed. Standing room only downstairs. Most pax Swedish business travellers. Me FlyingFinn, me hungry. Not much food - the Swedish Business Traveller Horde has eaten everything on sight and is now trying to empty all the wine bottles on sight. Use the loo, drink half a glass of Saku beer and hear boarding call for my flight. Not good.

4) A relaxing connection. My ass. Got into terminal around twenty past, boarding called twenty five to. Me FlyingFinn, me hungry. Me had plans for sushi. Me disappointed no time for plans. Me get grumpy.

Leftovers from Ryanair passengers I think - 4 cans of A Le Coq and an empty box of Estonian choccies:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_1.jpg

Yes, FR has landed::

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_2.jpg

5) Smooth connections. My ass. Go downstairs to the very same bus driven by the very same driver at the very same gate I left 15 minutes ago. Stand in the very same position. Count 15 pax. Wait for a while. Wait for a longer while. Start growing a beard while you’re at it. Get frustrated. 15 minutes later try to give the bad eye at some business traveller pigs in suits for holding up the bus. No avail, they are far too happy about something, maybe managing to expense that massage with a dubious end to their expense account. Wait more. Bus finally leaves after 20+ minutes in the bus.

6) Drive back to the very same plane you left 45 minutes ago.

Not exactly my idea of a relaxed connection.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_3.jpg

TLL - HEL
OV615
Saab 340 ES-ASO
Seat 11A
18.18 - 18.50

So back to our regular programming. Indeed we ended back to the very same plane - I was already expecting this as the schedules seemed to suggest so. I had asked the crew upon deboarding whether they were going to HEL next but they declined - and indeed there’s now a new girl (just one) on the front door. Since I’m in the business of confusing people I say “Same plane, different crew!” and confuse her this does. She is offering those same Kalev candies from that same basket as I already had (which would be all the service for this flight) but I decide to pass this time.

Once the captain comes on and announces a flight time of 30 minutes I figure out that also the cockpit crew has been changed.

Then another long wait follows. A bus pulls in front of us, seemingly packed. I’m a bit surprised that it opens its doors and spits out the Swedish Business Traveller Horde who immediately start heading towards our plane, chanting “Kaffe. Muffin. Kaffe. Muffin.”

Our captain who looks like around 16 years of age gets out, shows them his sprinkle of Holy Water and Book of Estonian Bankruptcy Code. The Horde withdraws back into the bus, the doors are closed and the bus eventually buggers off.

Somebody asks the captain what is going on when he gets back inside - “It was the Stockholm passengers. They drove to the wrong plane”. But I know better - I know the Truth. But can I live with it?

More waiting. Eventually the captain makes another announcement “Ladies and Gentlemen - it looks like we are still waiting for some passengers, there have (sic) been some misunderstanding at airport”. By the time he finishes this a van stops outside and a bling-bling couple in their 40s get out, enter the plane, get really confused about the fact that most overheads are full and they are expected to wear their camel hair coats for this brief hop across the Gulf. Eventually the FA manages to get them settled.

Finally the doors are closed, engines started, blocks taken off and the plane is on the move. Despite it feeling much longer the delay was “only” 18 minutes.

I wonder if the TNT slogan “Sure we can” was the root for the Obama movement’s “Yes we can”:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_4.jpg

Free(as a )bird:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_5.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_6.jpg

Take off being from 26 it is another 10 minutes before we finally commence our take off run.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_7.jpg

City of Tallinn:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_8.jpg

The Port - luckily no ferry for me today:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_9.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Tallinn_Departure_10.jpg

The murk remains over the Gulf:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_1.jpg

I decide to rest my eyes for a bit - this feels far too sweet so by the time something wakes me up we have already descended below the clouds and are flying over my homeland again:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_2.jpg

Turning left for an approach towards the 22s:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_3.jpg

The Helsinki-Lahti motorway:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_4.jpg

This is the Sinebrykoff beer factory (I refuse to call it “a brewery” as to me that word has a certain artisan feeling to it) at Kerava. The red thing on the left is a giant Koff beer can greeting drivers on the motorway next to it:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_5.jpg

Urban sprawl, Finnish style:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_6.jpg


http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_7.jpg

Landing is on the same runway 22L I left around eight hours earlier, 20 minutes late:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_8.jpg

Arriving at our apron position (which just happens to be the same one where my BT flight last Sunday was parked and delayed at) - let’s hope those Havas stairs won’t be used for us as I’m still quite pissed off at that company:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_9.jpg

Ahh, Servisair comes to the rescue:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_10.jpg

Bye, albino:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Joensuu_Tallinn_03_2012/Helsinki_Approach_11.jpg

To my absolute surprise the bus takes us to T2 arrivals. I’m very curious about why OV was put (or chose?) to T2 - shouldn’t they use their parent company SAS’ facilities at T1? Anyway I’m quickly outside, catch the next bus to where I parked my car and am on my way to do whatever it was that I was supposed to do tonight.

Conclusions

I’m pretty happy BE still retains most of it FC roots. The nice cabins, friendly cabin crew and excellent on time performance. Shame about the BOB service - I’m willing to tolerate it on the “pure” BE flights but on the “operated for AY” services it is just another cheap trick by AY to piss off their own customers.

As for the main beef - OV - well a bit of a mixed bag really. I’m happy that they believe these regional routes will serve them well and the passenger loads were far higher than I expected, also on the HEL run. But the whole experience left a lot to be desired - from the slow motion flight to the very messy TLL connection there are a lot of things to improve on. I suggest that they should get the Tallinn hub operation working first, as that will be the part most of the new passengers they are after (i.e. connecting ones) will rate them on. The groundwork is there, but now the endless fine tuning needs to be applied. Hopefully Mr. Taskila has experience on this - BT managed to fix it at RIX (most of the time at least) so if he can successfully apply those lessons here OV might indeed become something it desires to become - a major regional player.

As for the Albinos - they are still appearing in my dreams! The horror, the horror!


A couple of days of work before a weekend of play - this time I’m heading to a small tour around Bavaria with my first flight on a KLM Cityhopper E190 thrown in. The simple itinerary is HEL-RIX-MUC-AMS-HEL.


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 7049 times:

Hi P,

what's that? A banner? You really make good effort. Like it!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
actually buy a pair of noise cancelling headsets as an impulse purchase - well sort of as I need new headphones anyway.

Way to go, good for economy and your satisfaction!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
thanks to the terminal design on the old part of HEL and Finavia’s decision to cram all the available floor space full of retail establishments many gates, including this one lack any real waiting areas, thus a full flight will block the walkway - stupid and very annoying:

Bad design indeed...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A woman boarding after me asks the girl “Is this flight going to be absolutely full?” - come on, there were just a handful of us in the bus so do you expect the extra 56 passengers to perhaps be teleported (“Beam me down, Mr. FlyBE”) straight to the airplane!

Haha

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Over at the gate 12 an Air Finland 757 is parked - this can only mean one thing: another KF 717 has been substituted by this

Give me the 757 over any 717 these days... I love 757s

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
What’s that red stripe on the base of the tail of this LOT E170 - I haven’t seen it before:

New LOT livery is out?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Then I realize that there are actually two FAs - standing behind the first one is the same blonde girl that served the honors on our January ARN-TLL a.net flight

Hi again   Did I send you the picture of you and her already?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wheels up © Jonas

   ... I wonder in which cockpit he heard crew saying this. I guess a faux airline since it's 'gear up' usually

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
That “fly@” logo belongs to the doomed-from-the-beginning Italian carrier FlyOristano:

Nice catch indeed

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Somebody asks the captain what is going on when he gets back inside - “It was the Stockholm passengers. They drove to the wrong plane”. But I know better - I know the Truth. But can I live with it?

Haha what a story! Quite bad indeed and also the busdriver doesn't know where to go, it seems

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The Port - luckily no ferry for me today

I remember this scene. Good memories.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A couple of days of work before a weekend of play - this time I’m heading to a small tour around Bavaria with my first flight on a KLM Cityhopper E190 thrown in.

Hopefully no sub to 737 then for you, which often seems the case on AMS-HEL flights.

Regards
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6757 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 7033 times:

Hi P.,

congratulations, now that was a day full of beautifully painted planes...   At least you added some colors in your intro artwork.  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
. Anyway I decide to splurge 3 EUR for a coffee - and am very disappointed to get some instant Nescafe crap instead of a good drip coffee like FC used to serve:

So much money for brown water? Ridiculous.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
With plenty of time on my hands I do some shopping - need to add a more partner credits to my AY Plus account for the 20K point challenge and actually buy a pair of noise cancelling headsets as an impulse purchase - well sort of as I need new headphones anyway.

Noise cancelling headphones? No thanks. I had those on my recent EK 77W flight - I switched off the silent mode after a while. I liked the mix of music and GE90 sound.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As for the Albinos - they are still appearing in my dreams! The horror, the horror!

And what lesson do you learn from that?


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 6969 times:

Hey PetteriFinn Man! Nice report! Thank goodie your plans were able to fall through as planned this time.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The bookings were quite simple - I booked both OV segments during their sale in December 2011. JOE-TLL was 35 EUR, TLL-HEL an hour later (which should be plenty of time for TLL) 30 EUR.

That's a pretty good price, did those segments also count for re-qualifying to EBG?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Time to check out the new headphones:

No Bose!? How come you didn't invest in a pair of QC15 since you fly so much?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
OH-ATF is being prepared for her next flight - let’s just hope there won’t be any alcohol, tobacco or firearms onboard:

I'm very surprised to hear you say those words, since I'd imagine a man like you to be into those things. (you know, the hat and all, says a lot   )

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Unfortunately the skies get progressively more cloudy when we get closer to Joensuu:

Jesus, you really know your land like the back of your hand, don't you? Now that's the true Finn spirit 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Inside this container is left on the baggage belt from our flight - it contains donated blood, most likely destined to the local hospital or emergency services:

Gosh, I hope that package courier came and picked it up rather urgently.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I have more than three hours and a lot of work to do so I buy a softdrink from the cafe, find a nice table with a power socket nearby and let it loose, thanks to the free Finavia wifi.

Ah, nice to see you finally putting that old Mac to the grave and getting a new one!  However, I don't see why you bring the iPad as well when you've the MBP?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
a very nice girl who some of our entourage called hot but in my opinion she’s more of a neighbourhood girl type.

Hmm wonder who made that statement, maybe one of the dutchmen   But then again there's nothing wrong with the "girl nextdoor" as long as she's hot!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
For the record, I didn’t pee my pants - it’s the rain.

= Jajaja, and neither did I that time when I dropped the wet towel. But should I really believe, you hmm  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
well considering the sorry state of public healthcare in this country I can hardly blame him for choosing the affordable and quick option...

Makes me feel extra fortunate to live in the land of Jantelagen and (s), having the world's best healthcare, at least for now. We don't know what the Reinfeldt Mafia will do to our beloved state healthcare, but probably mess it up like everything else he's gotten his hands over.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I tend to agree with this:

Wow, that's like looking into a mirror. So true, so true.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Wheels up © Jonas:

I heard them use that phrase in the movie Iron Man, and it sounded so cool that I kept saying it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After asking for coffee the FA offers me water or juice as well but I decline.

I don't get it, you're offered something for free on an aeroplane and you turn it down. It's like being offered free money, so of course you say yes! 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m a bit surprised that it opens its doors and spits out the Swedish Business Traveller Horde who immediately start heading towards our plane, chanting “Kaffe. Muffin. Kaffe. Muffin.”

I don't know whether I should laugh or feel offended by the way you portray my fellow countrymen as barbarians. Did they really chant that?

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2284 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

Hi there!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So preparing the inflight service takes a VERY long time - well I’m not really craving anything urgently so I listen to some nice tunes (Iron Maiden seems to be fitting today’s mood just fine) and enjoy the weather clearing up:

Iron Maiden, eh? Good choice, sir!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
That queue on the background is the boarding one for DY’s RVN flight - thanks to the terminal design on the old part of HEL and Finavia’s decision to cram all the available floor space full of retail establishments many gates, including this one lack any real waiting areas, thus a full flight will block the walkway - stupid and very annoying:

Ah, I see, that's an interesting move by HEL. Who needs seating and toilets anyway? Shopping is the way to go  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Two young, blonde and very nice FAs on this flight. I manage to be the first one boarding and quickly take my seat on the penultimate row. A woman boarding after me asks the girl “Is this flight going to be absolutely full?” - come on, there were just a handful of us in the bus so do you expect the extra 56 passengers to perhaps be teleported (“Beam me down, Mr. FlyBE”) straight to the airplane!

Maybe she had just read The Invisible Man. Or maybe just a slight case of number illiteracy. It happens. In the USA, it happens way too often. Just the second part, not the first.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
nside I say “Horrible weather” to the FA greeting (or more like just staring and smiling at) me. The response sounds weird, “Yes it is, yes it is” like it echoes or something. Then I realize that there are actually two FAs - standing behind the first one is the same blonde girl that served the honors on our January ARN-TLL a.net flight - a very nice girl who some of our entourage called hot but in my opinion she’s more of a neighbourhood girl type. Anyway I continue with “Hope the weather is better in Tallinn” which gets another “Yes it is, yes it is!” reply which reminds me of an old record player getting stuck...

Heh. Strange to think there was an echo, as there's not enough room for an echo in the Saab 340. Luckily science prevails yet again.

Girl next door is sometimes better, anyway.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
She realizes something, unlocks the lavatory door and takes a peek inside. No boogeymen there.

That's a shame. Perhaps she was looking for the Invisible Man, too!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
The trainer FA sneaks up on me, spots me taking a photo and tells me to turn it off - I think she realizes that
a) I’m going to turn it sneakily back on as soon as she’s gone and
b) She just had a deja-vu moment as she told me the same thing (a couple of times) on our flight in January.

Tsk, tsk, you never seem to learn.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Yes, FR has landed::

What a good looking gate!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
“It was the Stockholm passengers. They drove to the wrong plane”.

Who let the Stockholm passengers drive their own bus? What a shame! Maybe they preferred HEL anyway.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
As for the Albinos - they are still appearing in my dreams! The horror, the horror!

Quite horrible, isn't it? White planes... Tsk, tsk.

Thanks for sharing, P!


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

Thanks for yet another great read FF. Nice to read of airports I had never heard of. I like the ATC at JOE. No "Average Joe" ATC for such a humble little airport.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Hmm - my trivia knowledge has failed me this time - I didn’t know JOE is the easternmost airport in the EU (well at least if you don’t count the faux overseas départements the French are so fond of. At least I’ll be remembering this tidbit the rest of my life:

Hm, I'd swear that LCA is at a considerably more eastern location. Maybe JOE is the easternmost EU airport that is NOT on an island?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
What’s that red stripe on the base of the tail of this LOT E170 - I haven’t seen it before:

Interesting. Checking the history of this bird it seems that it has always been with LOT so it cannot have been a remnant of a previous livery. I kinda like this little touch of red I must say.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite surprised to find a Turkish ad here - maybe JOE is their next destination in Finland:

TK cracks me up. They have left no stone unturned, no market is off their range. A true global force.


I'm sorry to hear about all the albinos you had to fly on. I just realized that I have never flown on a pure albino before. Maybe I should try and find one, just for the heck of it.

Thanks again P,

WBodyroga



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User currently offlineOlafW From Germany, joined Jul 2009, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 6477 times:

Hi Petteri

excellent report once again. Really like the banner, although somehow expected you would get three different albinos on this trip...
I have to say I' envy you that you can put out these reports in such speeds. I'm still working on one for a Beijing trip of June 2011, and the next one for a longer South America trip in October/November only consists of single words now...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Iron Maiden seems to be fitting today’s mood just fine

Perfect music for flying in my opinion. Especially "Coming Home"  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Not sure what the “Lion’s City” is supposed to mean - maybe the “borrowed” this bus from Singapore:

Not quite, but this requires some thought - or research: Lion's City Buses are manufactured by German company MAN. They have a lion in their logo which was inherited when they took over the company Büssing in 1972. This company had the lion in its logo as a reference to the city where they had their headquarters: Braunschweig (or Brunswick as some English speakers call it). In Braunschweig there is a statue of a lion which was placed there by Duke Henry the Lion during his reign over Braunschweig. And it is assumed that the design of this statue was inspired by some old roman statues which he saw during the Italian campaigns of Emperor Frederick I Barbarossa around 1160.
Quite a lot of history in such a little thing as a bus name...

Looking forward to the next one
Olaf


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1688 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6317 times:

Excellent TR, P; as you know, my favourite area in Europe is Scandinavia and the Baltic States...so this fits in very well !!!

That red stripe is LOT's new colour-scheme: white-red at the bottom depicts the Polish flag, and also the crane is also bigger now than before and painted on the tail a la RO or TK; it should look neat on the 787 IMHO...

JOE airport looks quite nice for a local one; surprised to see the TK add too  

Now that you've talked about the hot next door neighbour girl...let's hope she'll also be on my flight ARN-TLL 03jun12  

Thanks again for sharing: always good to see so many pictures from that part of Europe and I like your writing style too
so looking forward to your next one...



don't throw away tomorrow !
User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1451 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6273 times:

Hi P,

Very creative, love the introductory pic and also very entertaining!

What lovely conditions for your trip up to JOE - the views of frozen Finland were as stunning as ever.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
JOE-TLL was 35 EUR, TLL-HEL an hour later (which should be plenty of time for TLL) 30 EUR.

Now, why did I have a feeling things weren’t going to be so smooth when I read the word 'should'?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Nice overview of HEL:

Very nice

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Yes, this guy is wearing only a T-shirt. Must be heading to BKK or something like that:

My guess is he’s a local who is revelling in the wonderful spring temperatures of ….. 2C.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Soon enough I spot a familiar shape over the horizon, and once the plane has landed and breaks to make off the runway exit i notice it doesn’t look like the usual blue-colored OV one:

Estonian Air without that beautiful livery? Ask for your money back!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
For the record, I didn’t pee my pants - it’s the rain.

Haha, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
She realizes something, unlocks the lavatory door and takes a peek inside. No boogeymen there.

Well, better safe than sorry  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
717flyer now perks up - did I say “muffin”? Yes, this is the standard OV Regional service - a warm (nice!) muffin with drinks. After asking for coffee the FA offers me water or juice as well but I decline.

Looks like R will be booking some OV segments soon then!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Most pax Swedish business travellers. Me FlyingFinn, me hungry. Not much food - the Swedish Business Traveller Horde has eaten everything on sight and is now trying to empty all the wine bottles on sight. Use the loo, drink half a glass of Saku beer and hear boarding call for my flight. Not good.

I got the giggles trying to picture this scene.

Happy flying
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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1695 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6247 times:
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FlyingFinn76,

Liked this white report of yours, although the lack of contrast sometimes made me dizzy! It’s fashionable as well, especially with that cool intro photo, straight from a comic book with the P. twist thrown in   
It’s needles to say the OV planes look much smarter in their blue jack iso that eurowhite. Hopefully you will experience a ride on their new jungle jets in true blue style.
I’m a bit surprised on the TLL connection, I mean, if they want to attract pax, they have to make sure it all works. Today was clearly different and I hope they can smooth it all out in some time. Maybe that newly built terminal isn’t big enough anymore already? And 'JOE' for an airport, that's pretty cool!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Time to check out the new headphones:

What a giant pair, no wonder they are noise-canceling, they only exist of wire and 8 cm thick insulation. I always use those small pop-in thingies, they are quite efficient too in keeping out the noise.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Normally I%u2019d get annoyed by the Estonian accent in the prerecorded safety and departure announcements - it just feels so wrong - but today it seems appropriate considering what my main objective on this trip is.

Now one would expect a plane operated by a Finnish airline to have announcements in Finnish (like in Finland) and not Finnish (like in Estonia). How come?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Next door the second oldest -72 on the fleet, OH-ATF is being prepared for her next flight - let%u2019s just hope there won%u2019t be any alcohol, tobacco or firearms on board:

It took me a while to get this one, but now I got it 

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Kinda cool thinking that Finland has both the northernmost (IVL) and easternmost airport of the Union.

Given Finland’s geographical location, that’s hardly a surprise...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh and Finns might find its prior (and original) Swedish registration quite funny: SE-KSI

I don’t speak Finnish nor Swedish yet I find it a funny reg too  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Then I realize that there are actually two FAs - standing behind the first one is the same blond girl that served the honors on our January ARN-TLL a.net flight - a very nice girl who some of our entourage called hot but in my opinion she’s more of a neighbourhood girl type.

Oh yes - I remember her. And neighbourhood type or not: yes she was (is) gorgeous... but stern as well  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I tend to agree with this:

While I don not think it is a ‘right’ as such, I do believe Estonia shows us the way here with the free wifi for everyone.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
so where’s KOK I hear someone ask?

It’s at the east coast and about half way between Oulu and Vaasa if Google Maps doesn’t lie to me.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The trainer FA sneaks up on me, spots me taking a photo and tells me to turn it off - I think she realizes that
a) I’m going to turn it sneakily back on as soon as she’s gone and
b) She just had a deja-vu moment as she told me the same thing (a couple of times) on our flight in January.

At least her smile tells me all that .

So of course there are more photos:

Of course there are. But in such a small and secluded area as in the Saab 340, it’s difficult to stay incognito. Last Jan we all took pics underway and we were not told off (except for one person ).

Sultanils



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3243 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6207 times:

Love the cartoon intro...lucky you had so much to work with!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I get into an argument with one of the security agents as she says I have to take both my laptop and Ipad out of the bag despite me passing through quite a few checks with the Ipad there during the last weeks... I’m with Eric here - I wish the rules would be clear and consistent instead of being made up on the spot!

What irks me is that the screeners EXPECT you to know what they want you to do. The majoirty of airports do not tell you what they want which invariably slows things down.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
With plenty of time on my hands I do some shopping - need to add a more partner credits to my AY Plus account for the 20K point challenge and actually buy a pair of noise cancelling headsets as an impulse purchase - well sort of as I need new headphones anyway.

You'll soon find them invaluable, i'm sure. I love my pair.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Kinda cool thinking that Finland has both the northernmost (IVL) and easternmost airport of the Union.

That's what happens when you're stuck up in a corner



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5992 times:

Hi all,

Good to see so many comments already - thank you very much!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
what's that? A banner? You really make good effort. Like it!

Yeah, as I said you must reinvent yourself every now and then!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Hi again   Did I send you the picture of you and her already?

Hmm no, I don't think so?

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
That “fly@” logo belongs to the doomed-from-the-beginning Italian carrier FlyOristano:
Nice catch indeed

Yeah, well flying with it would be the ultimate catch!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Haha what a story! Quite bad indeed and also the busdriver doesn't know where to go, it seems

Yes, very odd. It has happened to me before, though - but that was at CDG so to be expected I guess.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Hopefully no sub to 737 then for you, which often seems the case on AMS-HEL flights.

Actually the HEL flight was a 737 from the beginning, it is KLC on the MUC leg.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
So much money for brown water? Ridiculous.

Yeah well you pay easily the same in a normal cafe as well, but at least you get a proper coffee. Not a big fan of this instant stuff.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Noise cancelling headphones? No thanks. I had those on my recent EK 77W flight - I switched off the silent mode after a while. I liked the mix of music and GE90 sound.

Well turboprops might be a bit different. Those are good for sleeping.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
As for the Albinos - they are still appearing in my dreams! The horror, the horror!
And what lesson do you learn from that?

Errr... Fly more Air Asia where every second plane is seemingly a logojet?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
That's a pretty good price, did those segments also count for re-qualifying to EBG?

No.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
No Bose!? How come you didn't invest in a pair of QC15 since you fly so much?

'coz they cost more than a ticket to Tokyo?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
OH-ATF is being prepared for her next flight - let’s just hope there won’t be any alcohol, tobacco or firearms onboard:
I'm very surprised to hear you say those words, since I'd imagine a man like you to be into those things. (you know, the hat and all, says a lot   )

Jonas, you didn't get this one did you? Google for it, ATF is something that aims to control everything that is fun in life. Well most of it anyway.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Jesus, you really know your land like the back of your hand, don't you? Now that's the true Finn spirit 

Considering how empty this country is it is not too hard. But I love geography.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Gosh, I hope that package courier came and picked it up rather urgently.

Actually he showed up while I was there - had some sort of issue with the paperwork.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
Ah, nice to see you finally putting that old Mac to the grave and getting a new one!  However, I don't see why you bring the iPad as well when you've the MBP?

First of all this is my employer's computer, not mine. And no, I haven't retired anything. And they have different uses - listening to music on the go is helluva cumbersome with a computer for example. Or playing games in planes.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
having the world's best healthcare, at least for now.

But you certainly pay through the nose for it!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
I don't get it, you're offered something for free on an aeroplane and you turn it down. It's like being offered free money, so of course you say yes! 

I was fine with the coffee thank you. I know you have no shame in eating ten free muffins just because they are free, but I'm a bit different,

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 4):
I don't know whether I should laugh or feel offended by the way you portray my fellow countrymen as barbarians. Did they really chant that?

Jonas, did you not get the whole theme of this report?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 5):
Iron Maiden, eh? Good choice, sir!

Indeed it is, thanks.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 5):
Who let the Stockholm passengers drive their own bus? What a shame! Maybe they preferred HEL anyway.

Well I think they devoured the bus driver in their feeding frenzy. Giiiive... meee... freeee... stuff....

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
I like the ATC at JOE. No "Average Joe" ATC for such a humble little airport.

Hah, you just had to do it, didn't you?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Hm, I'd swear that LCA is at a considerably more eastern location. Maybe JOE is the easternmost EU airport that is NOT on an island?

You are right - LCA indeed is more than four degrees more towards the east than JOE. I think this sign is from the era before Cyprus became a member.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
TK cracks me up. They have left no stone unturned, no market is off their range. A true global force.

A true money loosing global force is more like it.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
I'm sorry to hear about all the albinos you had to fly on. I just realized that I have never flown on a pure albino before. Maybe I should try and find one, just for the heck of it.

Yes, give it a try! You might be surprised.

Quoting OlafW (Reply 7):
excellent report once again. Really like the banner, although somehow expected you would get three different albinos on this trip...

Well that would be pushing it already, wouldn't it?

Quoting OlafW (Reply 7):
I have to say I' envy you that you can put out these reports in such speeds. I'm still working on one for a Beijing trip of June 2011, and the next one for a longer South America trip in October/November only consists of single words now...

It is a matter of dedication, prioritization and mostly just good old hard work. The longer you put off writing a report the harder it gets.

Quoting OlafW (Reply 7):
Perfect music for flying in my opinion. Especially "Coming Home"  

That's a bit too modern for me - I was listening to songs from the "Hallowed be thy Name" era.

Quoting OlafW (Reply 7):
Quite a lot of history in such a little thing as a bus name...

Hey thanks for this very interesting piece of trivia! I had no idea there was so much to that name - I just assumed it was one of these completely wrong ways of using English so many foreign companies come up with.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 8):
That red stripe is LOT's new colour-scheme: white-red at the bottom depicts the Polish flag, and also the crane is also bigger now than before and painted on the tail a la RO or TK; it should look neat on the 787 IMHO...

Thanks, I had no idea. Look interesting, although that stripe is maybe a bit too subtle.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 8):
Now that you've talked about the hot next door neighbour girl...let's hope she'll also be on my flight ARN-TLL 03jun12  

Thumbs up for that.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 9):
Very creative, love the introductory pic and also very entertaining!

Thanks - the inspiration for this hit me while watching and being surprised by that albino plane landing at JOE.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 9):
What lovely conditions for your trip up to JOE - the views of frozen Finland were as stunning as ever.

Yes, these spring days are nice for this reason. The weather is often very clear and sunny.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 9):
Estonian Air without that beautiful livery? Ask for your money back!

I'm sure it will get painted sooner than later.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 9):
I got the giggles trying to picture this scene.

Trust me it was not a pretty sight!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
It’s fashionable as well, especially with that cool intro photo, straight from a comic book with the P. twist thrown in   

Nobody figured out where the inspiration came from? Really? It is not comics, I give you that.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
It’s needles to say the OV planes look much smarter in their blue jack iso that eurowhite. Hopefully you will experience a ride on their new jungle jets in true blue style.

Austerity measures are the word of the day - they save money by leaving the paintjob out of the equation.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Maybe that newly built terminal isn’t big enough anymore already?

I think there's plenty of space - it is more of a design issue. The bus boardings are done in quite a stupid way - it would be better if there was some sort of dedicated commuter gate area somewhere downstairs or something I thnk.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
I always use those small pop-in thingies, they are quite efficient too in keeping out the noise.

Sometimes those are handy, true.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
Now one would expect a plane operated by a Finnish airline to have announcements in Finnish (like in Finland) and not Finnish (like in Estonia). How come?

I talked about this the other day with a fellow pax - we came to the conclusion that they wanted to save every possible bit of money and had it recorded (in Finnish, Swedish and English) in Estonia. Quite stupid.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 10):
It’s at the east coast and about half way between Oulu and Vaasa if Google Maps doesn’t lie to me.

Gee, thanks.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
You'll soon find them invaluable, i'm sure. I love my pair.

I loved my Phillips ones some years ago before I left them in a plane and never saw them again. I hated the el cheapo Chinese ones I got as a replacement. Those only cost 20 EUR but were utter crap.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26923 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

Great report and nice intro pic  

Never seen that stripe on the LOT E jet before either but quite like it .

I see the snow is slowly going ! Weird to see TK have an ad there but I guess they have decided to ''blanket'' everywhere .

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6557 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5760 times:

Hi FlyingFinn!

Nice report although not too colorful airplanes.....

Glad that you made all the connections this time but too bad you got the same aircraft on the way back from TLL....

Very good to see pictures something close to Kouvola since that's where Lufthansa747 spends his time in between flights.

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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5588 times:

Another fun report! Glad things did turn out as planned on this trip.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The bookings were quite simple - I booked both OV segments during their sale in December 2011. JOE-TLL was 35 EUR, TLL-HEL an hour later (which should be plenty of time for TLL) 30 EUR.

That's pretty cheap, and you inspiring me for a trip to your region more and more with these reports.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
With my flight departing not until eleven I had some time to run a few long overdue errands during the morning before leaving my car at the parking place of a shopping mall near the airport - they have free parking with no time limits on the outdoor lot and Finavia parking charges are ridiculously high - and catching a bus for the five minute ride to the airport.

I've been doing the same thing at AMS recently. Park the car in the nearby town of Hoofddorp and take a bus for a 10 minute ride to the airport.


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

Hello P!

Great report as usual, for sure an enjoyable read!
Nice to read about your Estonian Air Regional flights on the albino plane!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m pretty happy to see that we pull in front of OH-ATO, the newest plane on the flyBE Nordic fleet and less than five months old - and a new entry for my log as well:

And the only ATR I've ever flown.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
What’s that red stripe on the base of the tail of this LOT E170 - I haven’t seen it before:

As some others have mentioned, I believe it's the revised LOT livery.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The trainer FA sneaks up on me, spots me taking a photo and tells me to turn it off - I think she realizes that
a) I’m going to turn it sneakily back on as soon as she’s gone and
b) She just had a deja-vu moment as she told me the same thing (a couple of times) on our flight in January.

Sounds familiar to me too!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
To my absolute surprise the bus takes us to T2 arrivals. I’m very curious about why OV was put (or chose?) to T2 - shouldn’t they use their parent company SAS’ facilities at T1?

SK is hardly defined as the parent company of OV nowadays. Sure they do have a good relationship and SK owns a chunk of them, and they use Eurobonus as their FFP, but the Republic of Estonia is the "parent company" if anyone.
Saying this, I am also confused to why they use T2.

Looking forward to the next report!

Martin


User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5455 times:

Hello again Mr. P.,

thanks for yet another interesting report, glad that this time everything worked out well for you. With the exception of the TLL connection experience maybe, but at least you managed to get all the flights this time. Let's see how that new OV strategy will work out, seems like they still need to improve their opertations in TLL quite a bit.

Really like the pictures of the snowy Finland, especially since here spring has definitely started with temperatures around 20 degress lately.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Anyway I decide to splurge 3 EUR for a coffee

Wow, that is quite expensive for something like coffee.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Looks like this is turning into a day of the albinos:

Too bad to get only these white planes. Especially since the Estonian colours are looking really great.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
(Iron Maiden seems to be fitting today’s mood just fine)

Good choice   ...

Greetings
CaptainRed


User currently offlinefiloflyer From Finland, joined Feb 2012, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5350 times:

great tr!!!
was actually wondering for a couple of days if my rollaboard would fit in saabs overheadbins but upon reading this i guess i will just bring the backpack.!!. will do HEL-RIX-VNO-TLL-HEL next month =)


User currently offlineAYA333 From Finland, joined Aug 2008, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

Thanks for the report, P!

I am glad that you managed to fly with THAT FA again. Plus of course that you had the pleasure of scoring 3 flights on albino planes!

I have only had good experiences at TLL so I certainly was surprised to hear that you didn't that smooth experience there. Maybe they have hired new management from HEL with good experience in turning nice airports into not-so-nice?

And it's also not so nice to see that those people in the south (aka Talliin) no longer have snow. I am jealous.



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

Hey Petteri,

A very colourfull flying day I must say.
However with all the white around, still nice to catch the saab. Even with twice the same.
I was really wondering if the F/A did recognize you or not on the JOE-TLL leg.

Greetings
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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4869 times:

Hi guys,

Very nice to see more comments - always appreciated! Thank you!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Glad that you made all the connections this time but too bad you got the same aircraft on the way back from TLL....

Well, with only three examples in the fleet (plus some substitutes) it is bound to happen more and more. Especially since I've now logged all of those...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Very good to see pictures something close to Kouvola since that's where Lufthansa747 spends his time in between flights.

I know, I know - hence my reference to a "legend"  . Although I think he seems to spend most of his times either onboard Turkish Airlines or in the Philippines  
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 15):
That's pretty cheap, and you inspiring me for a trip to your region more and more with these reports.

Yeah, there are plenty of interesting opportunities around here - something a bit different from what you get over there in Central Europe. The normal fares are a bit higher but not really that high. And they do have campaigns every now and then...

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 16):
And the only ATR I've ever flown.

So what are you waiting for?! Go on, book some more flights on the type then - how about another GEV flight with the Danubewings one?

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 16):
Saying this, I am also confused to why they use T2.

YEah me too. Today I saw that the list of airlines using the T1 Scandinavian Lounge had been updated to include Estonian Air - that is a big of a hike from T2!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17):
et's see how that new OV strategy will work out, seems like they still need to improve their opertations in TLL quite a bit.

Well today went much smoother.

Quoting filoflyer (Reply 18):
was actually wondering for a couple of days if my rollaboard would fit in saabs overheadbins but upon reading this i guess i will just bring the backpack.!!.

No dice! You have to gate check it or if the load is low do like what we did on my flight.

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 19):
I am glad that you managed to fly with THAT FA again. Plus of course that you had the pleasure of scoring 3 flights on albino planes!

Pleasure is surprisingly close to pain? You sure like her, don't you?

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 19):
And it's also not so nice to see that those people in the south (aka Talliin) no longer have snow. I am jealous.

Well there was plenty of snow there today. Stay tuned for a report and pictures...

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
A very colourfull flying day I must say.

Pun intended?

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
I was really wondering if the F/A did recognize you or not on the JOE-TLL leg.

I think she did, at least when telling me to put my camera away...


User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

Hello FlyingFinn76

Nice report, glad everything worked out fine!

Thanks for showing us around JOE airport. I love those smaller airports.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite surprised to find a Turkish ad here - maybe JOE is their next destination in Finland

Well, they're seriously planning to serve LCG, so who knows what's next...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Must-have-an-717-in-a-report

Truly appreciated!

Thanks for keeping us entertained with your great reports!
Cheers, LXM83


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5160 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

Hi, P.,

ah, that was a really good evening read together with nice pictures.
Not that I really like this white stuff. I want to see more greenery also in Finland and hopefully in Germany, too.
Interesting to follow that Estonian plane movements. Sure a good chance to catch something unusual these days.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
ARN-TLL a.net flight - a very nice girl who some of our entourage called hot but in my opinion she’s more of a neighbourhood girl type.

Now that sound´s hot to me, anyway!.

Looking forward to the KL E-jet and some bavarian stuff.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

[Edited 2012-04-04 13:43:06]


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User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

Tervehdys Petteri,

Thanks for yet another interesting report and good to see you were a little bit more succesful in scoring this new Estonian Air route! Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that airBaltic wasn't involved?

Of course I feel honored to be featured in your writings and I am sorry for my late reply. I guess "Let's save the best for last", "It's never too late for a kind word" and "I''ve been flying around so much lately" are fitting explanations as per why I haven't replied before. Yeah, and it took some time to recover from seeing your eyecatcher image for the first time. But here I am!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
But then two things happened: firstly AY introduced their 69 EUR domestic roundtrip fares to several destinations, including JOE and I figured out that the fare rules on these cheap fares also allow them to be combined as open-jaws.

Thank you for this update! Not long ago I tried to book a HEL-OUL/RVN-HEL combo from Finnair with the result being a terrible 275 EUR (or more) on the bill - now when I log onto their website I can find the same deal for 105 EUR even though availability is quite limited and the maximum time of 3 months between arrival and departure can be disturbing when trying to nest some tickets.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
they have free parking with no time limits on the outdoor lot and Finavia parking charges are ridiculously high

Good to know, even though I think the outside parking (P4) is quite cheap priced at around 4 EUR per night - actually our (can't say mine as I don't have a driver's license) car is parked there at this very moment. Even though it is a bit of a walk away from the terminals.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
That queue on the background is the boarding one for DY’s RVN flight - thanks to the terminal design on the old part of HEL and Finavia’s decision to cram all the available floor space full of retail establishments many gates, including this one lack any real waiting areas, thus a full flight will block the walkway - stupid and very annoying:

I'm glad to see they are (still) doing well on the route - I can only hope they would adjust the schedule so that I could make more use of it - nowadays I can only find it useful during the summer when no one cares when I travel..

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m pretty happy to see that we pull in front of OH-ATO, the newest plane on the flyBE Nordic fleet and less than five months old - and a new entry for my log as well:

I give them heads up for realizing it is no idea to pay a huge chunk of money for painting the aircraft in Flybe colors - we all know that fun will soon come to an end. So what livery is next? AY? AB? Comeback of FC?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
A woman boarding after me asks the girl “Is this flight going to be absolutely full?” - come on,

I heard the same question being asked on my ARN-OUL flight on Thursday - that time the answer was a bit different though; "Look around you, we're quite popular today! But you're welcome as well".

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
OH-ATF is being prepared for her next flight - let’s just hope there won’t be any alcohol, tobacco or firearms onboard:

Hah, it took me a while to get that one.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Over at the gate 12 an Air Finland 757 is parked - this can only mean one thing: another KF 717 has been substituted by this (it happens on and off, thanks to the KF schedule having precious little slack for any irregulars):

Excuse me Sir, but high aircraft usage is the key to success in the airline industry, which, for the customer can be noticed in the form of cheap tickets. And the OF 757 substitutions haven't always been just because of 717s going tech (okay, reading the next paragraph you mentioned that yourself as well).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Must-have-an-717-in-a-report:

Looking good as always, thanks!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
What’s that red stripe on the base of the tail of this LOT E170 - I haven’t seen it before:

It seems like LO's second daily frequency to WAW hasn't been very succesful lately - it has been cancelled quite a few times, including once last week when my uncle was booked on the flight.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The weather is very nice with clear skies so there are plenty of nice views of snowy landscapes below:

Indeed a very nice shot, it certainly has some screensaver material in it!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite surprised to find a Turkish ad here - maybe JOE is their next destination in Finland:

Well, a similar ad has been around RVN airport for many years now and they still haven't announced a new route!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I watch OH-ATO departing back to HEL, with a far better load this time. Yes, this guy is wearing only a T-shirt. Must be heading to BKK or something like that:

That FA really does suit your description!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Looks like this is turning into a day of the albinos:

Well, all these white planes really fit into the snowy Finnish landscapes!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh and Finns might find its prior (and original) Swedish registration quite funny: SE-KSI:

Dirty minds see dirty things! The first thing the reg made me think of is "translatiivi". At least I've done my homework...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m starting to feel a bit like 717flyer as I obsessively count both the disembarking (29) and about-to-board (21) passengers. Quite nice loads considering it is only the second flight on the route and there are 33 seats on that Saab.

It's not like I always count deboarding passengers, it's just a great way to spend time as well as it gives quite a good overview of how an airline is performing in its operations. I think we shouldn't forget that outside the capital region every flight connection is crucial and I think it is great news that KOK-ARN, POR-ARN and apparently also JOE-TLL are doing well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
For the record, I didn’t pee my pants - it’s the rain.

Sometimes it is better to say nothing at all - I really didn't think of the whole deal before reading your text.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
When she reaches my row I say “Don’t you trust your colleague?” - she looks like she doesn’t know what to say, smiling confusedly. I decide to let her off the hook and say “But she is new, isn’t she?” to which she smiles and relaxes and says “Yes, she is.”.

If she would have said "Yes she is, yes she is" then I would have jumped out of the window.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Later I notice the other FA is indeed wearing a “Trainee” badge -which is kinda weird as her name is not listed there. Maybe OV expects the attrition rate among trainees to be so high that it doesn’t bother spending money on name tags for them...

I can picture the scenario: "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board this Estonian Air flight. I am the purser on this flight and together with me ... hmm... Trainee is working on this flight".

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
So here are the new Finland routes - so where’s KOK I hear someone ask? Find out the answer in a TR near you in a couple of weeks:

I know exactly what happened! Blue1 and Estonian Air both decided to open a new route from KOK at the same time. But it soon became clear that there was only room for one player (read: Blue1). And I'm sure you're happy to log that route as well!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
717flyer now perks up - did I say “muffin”? Yes, this is the standard OV Regional service - a warm (nice!) muffin with drinks. After asking for coffee the FA offers me water or juice as well but I decline.

Impressive! I've lost count of how many times I've seen that muffin - and yet no one has performed a muffin test based on it - so there definitely is a gap in the market.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Not sure what the “Lion’s City” is supposed to mean - maybe the “borrowed” this bus from Singapore:

Come on, Southern Finland is full with those MAN buses - in fact I ride a Lion's City to school every morning.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
To my absolute surprise the bus takes us to T2 arrivals. I’m very curious about why OV was put (or chose?) to T2 - shouldn’t they use their parent company SAS’ facilities at T1? Anyway I’m quickly outside, catch the next bus to where I parked my car and am on my way to do whatever it was that I was supposed to do tonight.

Sure there has been some weird terminal assignments lately - on the other hand it only makes sense that Air Åland will move to Terminal 1 after the Easter holidays.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Give me the 757 over any 717 these days... I love 757s

What has happened to you Eric, I thought I could trust you? Besides, those 757s in charter configurations are, well, a pain.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 8):
Now that you've talked about the hot next door neighbour girl...let's hope she'll also be on my flight ARN-TLL 03jun12

Well, TLL-HEL on 04JUN would be very much welcomed as well!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 9):
Looks like R will be booking some OV segments soon then!

As a matter of fact I have their booking system open at this very moment, but some segments are already confirmed, so no worries here!


Hauskaa pääsiäispyhän jatkoa!  

Regards,
717Flyer


25 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hiya, Good to see more comments, thank you! I know you have a thing about JOE, not sure why, though! But I once saw a Helvetic (charter, presumable) f
26 Post contains images signol : Hi FF, thanks, good report as usual. Nice banner. So that was what you were "working" on in JOE? Good looking sandwich there, plenty of filling. "Quic
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