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ANAbelievable Japan. Tokyo, The Quake And The 77W  
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15868 times:

ANAbelievable Japan. Tokyo, the Quake and the 77W

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Welcome to the first segment of a 2-part trip report about my recent trip to Japan. This first part will focus on Tokyo, while the second part will be about the island of Hokkaido.


BACKGROUND

For quite some time my wife and I knew that following the summer of 2012, and for the next 2 or 3 years, our work schedule would be such that no long vacations would be possible (and by "long" I mean anything in excess of 3 consecutive days). As a result we wanted to take a 10-day holiday in the Spring and travel somewhere (preferably) far away. After much thinking we narrowed our options down to 2 alternatives. 1) A trip to the BeNeLux - N.France - W.Germany area. My wife traces her ancestry in that broader region and wanted us to visit the villages of her great-great-grandparents. 2) A trip to Japan, a lifelong dream of my wife's.

Finally, after much deliberation we decided that a trip to Japan would be the best choice at this point in time. For me that was meant to be my second visit to the land of the rising sun (the first one was in 2009, see TR HERE)


BOOKING
The options for getting to Tokyo from Chicago were plenty but my wife (despite being a very proud American) vetoed all US carriers on the Trans-Pacific segment (she knows better). Ideally we wanted to fly KE or OZ via ICN with a long enough layover to allow us some sightseeing in Seoul. However, we couldn't find anything that wouldn't require us selling our house to pay for it.

Eventually, we decided to forget the whole "long layover" idea and simply fly to Tokyo in the simplest way we could find or afford. Nonetheless, in addition to Tokyo we decided that we should visit one more major city while in Japan. Somewhat selfishly I suggested Sapporo (I had already visited Kyoto, Osaka and Hiroshima in my previous visit). After a bit of online searching we found a really good deal with NH (ORD-LAX-NRT-CTS-NRT-LAX-ORD). The US-domestic segments were to be operated by UA, but all the other flights were to be operated by NH. I was extremely excited about this route and my only regret was that our itinerary did not involve a flight into or from HND. What's more, both our Trans-Pacific segments were to be operated by NH's recently refurbished 777-300ERs with the new cabins.

Here's out itinerary:
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Yellow lines represent segments operated by UA, while red lines represent segments operated by NH

ORD-LAX, United Airlines, A319
LAX-NRT, All Nippon Airways, 777-300ER (77W)
NRT-CTS, All Nippon Airways, A320
CTS-NRT, All Nippon Airways, A320
NRT-LAX, All Nippon Airways, 777-300ER (77W)
LAX-ORD, United Airlines, A320 (originally 757 at the time of booking)



Instead of purchasing our tickets through NH's website we decided to do so at UA's website (UA is a partner of NH and the two have many codeshares). You may ask why we did that. Well, my bank (which I have since abandoned) had this ingenious rule where all transactions with foreign companies (even if the transaction is in US dollars) are subject to a 3% fee. I found this the hard way when I booked some flights on LH's American website, paid in US$, yet I was charged almost $100 in "foreign transaction" fees. I wasn't gonna fall for that again. The downside of booking with UA was that I could not select seats for the segments operated by NH. Nonetheless, a few days later, while checking my reservation online, I noticed that we were assigned seats 21A+C on the LAX-NRT segment, which was great (the aircraft was meant to have a 2-4-3 configuration in economy, therefore seats A and C are next to each other). However, I also noticed that our departure from ORD to LAX was pushed back by 45 minutes (hence making our layover at LAX dangerously short). Surprisingly UA had not bothered to tell us about it. I was not happy about this. I decided to keep checking our reservations every few days in case more changes were made without notification.

About a week prior to our flights, I checked our online reservation again to find out that my wife's seat selections had disappeared while mine had remained as is. I called UA several times but I had to give up each time after being put on hold for more than an hour (this was during the time UA was integrating its electronic system with that of CO, which resulted in confusion for many passengers who clogged the telephone lines for several days). Finally the fourth time I called (and after having waited for about 150 minutes) I got to talk to someone. The lady on the phone told me that in their system our seats reservations showed up normally and that I probably couldn't see them because of some glitch in the system. She didn't sound all that convincing but at least I knew that there was still a good chance that we'd get the seats we wanted.



HEADING OUT EAST (OR WEST IF YOU WILL)
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Route: ORD-LAX
Carrier: United Airlines
Aircraft: A319
Reg: Unknown

It is no secret that for me UA belongs to the "Axis of Evil" of airlines alongside IB and AZ. Prior experiences with UA had been less than pleasant: because of them I had to spend an entire Christmas Eve at MUC, at their hands I experienced my -hands down- worse TATL meals, they managed to lose my luggage on a direct flight and on top of that all I had to suffer their idiotic Departure Management Card idea on 3 different occasions (you can read about one of them HERE). As a result I did not have very high expectations of them for our flights from/to LAX. However, as you will see below, UA failed to meet even these extremely low expectations.

The day before our flights I tried to do OLCI at UA's website but all that came out of it was a "this-is-not-a-boarding-pass" boarding pass. Great. What a nice way to waste one's time. At 4am the following morning, we jumped onto a cab and after 30 mins of rocking on to "Jesus FM" we got dropped off at ORD. All that was available at that time was a bunch of self-check-in counters with just a couple of people supervising them. The machines would not read our passports so we had to call one of the agents to help. One of the ladies did some hocus pocus on the machine, she tagged our luggage and provided us with our boarding passes to LAX. The machine also provided us with another couple of "this-is-not-a-boarding-pass" cards for the LAX-NRT segment which read:

"Your connecting boarding passes cannot be processed at an airport kiosk. Please proceed to directly to the United ticket counter at your originating airport to obtain your boarding passes".

I wasn't entirely sure how to interpret this so after security I asked a gate agent about it. She told me that we had to get our boarding passes at LAX, which was the "originating" airport for that segment. It was not meant to be that simple as we later found out...

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The neon lights at the underground walkway connecting the B & C concourses at ORD

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Erm...Okay...

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Our A319 still in the old UA colors, waiting at the gate

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Cabin view

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In flight service... (Kindle not included)


The flight to LAX was as unremarkable as one can be. Tight legroom, just a drink (no snack) for a 4-hour flight, United's service is as basic as one can imagine. It gives true meaning to the term "cattle class" and lags behind the already very basic services seen on DL or AA. At least our A319 had overhead monitors but the programs that were chosen for our flight were of no interest to me so I turned to my Kindle.

After we arrived at T7 of LAX we proceeded to a United counter in order to get our new boarding passes. After waiting for about 30 mins we managed to speak to an agent who informed us that she could not issue us the boarding passes and that we had to go to the International Terminal and get them from ANA. I wonder why we weren't told about this in the first place... The cards we were given explicitly said that we were gonna get the boarding passes from a UA counter. Now we were running dangerously out of time.

Getting to the Intl Terminal from T7 involves either walking the 1km distance or you wait for the infrequent little bus to take you there. Given that the bus was nowhere to be seen we walked the full distance. Once at the Intl Terminal all we could see was a really long and disheartening line at the ANA check-in counters. I was not expecting to spend our whole layover at LAX waiting in line to re-check-in. Who came up with this? I was sleepless, tired and annoyed. A male ANA agent directing people on the floor saw us exasperated as we were and asked us where we were going. We explained that we had just arrived from Chicago, that we had already checked our bags at ORD and that all we wanted was our boarding passes to NRT. He asked us to join the main check-in line but a few minutes later he came back and asked us to follow him to the business class check-in counter where another agent would help us. How nice of him!

Once at the counter the friendly female agent asked for our passports, luggage tags and reservations printouts. After spending an unusually long time working on her computer screen I asked her whether there was a problem. She frowned and said that United had somehow mixed up our tickets so that our names were associated with different ticket numbers for each leg of the trip (or something along those lines). She apologized and asked us to wait while she called her supervisor. The two of them spent quite some time trying to solve the problem and kept shaking their heads in the process. I didn't want to disturb them but I was getting somewhat worried so I asked them if we were gonna be able to fly. They reassured me that we were going to be OK and that they had to spend some time fixing the problem by re-entering all of info manually. However they diplomatically avoided answering my questions about how UA had messed up, presumably not wanting to expose their colleagues. How professional. In general my impression of the ANA staff was extremely positive. They took interest in us, helped us avoid the unnecessary long wait to get our boarding passes and solved the ticket issue, all the while being extremely friendly and pleasant. I wish everyone was like that. Once we finally got our boarding passes (with the seats we wanted!), we headed to security which was fortunately not busy.

Once at the gate, we sat down to catch our breath before heading out for a walk to shoot some photos of the numerous Asian (and not only) heavies parked at this section of LAX. Once done we decided to grab a quick snack to make sure we were not too hungry during the flight. The hot dog place next to our gate had very carefully and thoughtfully adjusted their prices to acclimate the passengers flying to Japan to the prices of food at their destination. Two cold cut sandwiches and $25 later, we had finally satisfied our hunger.

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The Theme Building and the ATC at LAX

Here a few photos of some interesting international traffic at LAX:

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OZ getting ready for departure to ICN

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LAN heading to either SCL or LIM

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MU destined for PVG



JAPAN HERE WE COME

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Route: LAX-NRT
Carrier:All Nippon Airways
Aircraft: 777-300ER (77W)
Reg: JA782A

Boarding was surprisingly orderly and we took our seats one row behind the bulkhead. Of course in front of us there was a family with a baby. There's always one. The seats were very comfortable, the seat pitch was great as was the size of the personal IFE monitors. What I loved about the new cabin however is the seat reclining mechanism. Instead of compromising the space of the person behind you, this reclining method uses you own leg space in order to recline your seat. Instead of your seat-back reclining backwards, this mechanism slides your bum forward, hence pulling the lower side of your seat-back forward and down. No need to feel guilty for reclining with these seats. You just use your own (already generous) leg space. Ingenious! I have suffered enough from overenthusiastic over-recliners over the years. All of us have.

You can see a movie of the new cabin here:
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Our aircraft at the jetbridge

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Leaving LAX and California behind

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The personal IFE monitors

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Really good seatpitch

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Cabin view

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Trying some of the available videogames on the IFE System


FOOD SERVICE

Menus were available both in the traditional paper form but also digitally on the IFE system. Before the main meal we were provided with hot towels, a pack of snacks (containing rice crackers, seaweed treats and cashews) and a choice of drink. I decided to try the advertised, ANA original, "Aromatic Kabosu", a soft drink made of a Japanese variety of lime. I loved it. Our meal options were a Japanese tray containing a chicken Teriyaki main dish with vegetables, fish salad, egg and spinach salad, soba noodles with sauce, and some fruit, or a Western tray containing seafood pasta with vegetables, a salmon salad, pickled mushrooms and peppers, a block of cheese and a fresh bread roll. Both meals came with a bottle of water. I chose the Western, while my wife opted for the Japanese. The portions were very generous, the quality exceptional, and I should not forget to mention the ANA-branded metal cutlery! I opted for a beer while my wife had some white wine. For dessert we were each given a Haagen-Dazs vanilla ice-cream cup but both of us were too stuffed to finish it. Finally we were offered some delicious Japanese green tea. To me it smells vaguely of seaweed (even though it does not contain any) and I could drink buckets of it, even though I'm not generally a big fan of tea.


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Hot towels!

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Rice/seaweed snacks and aromatic kabosu (臭橙) drink. Delicious!

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Belly cam view while flying over the Bering Sea and the Aleutian Islands of Alaska

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ANA's Wingspan Magazine

Food and drinks menu:
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Japanese Meal

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Western Meal

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Branded metal cutlery. It subsequently mysteriously disappeared and found its way to my bag

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I couldn't wait to get to Hokkaido before having a cold Sapporo Beer.

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Dessert


The IFE system had a wide range of games, music and movies.The IFE could be controlled either through the touch-screen monitors or a retractable-cord remote (mainly used for the video-games). Movies included popular western blockbusters (Tower Heist, J Edgar, The Big Year), older classics (The Terminal, The Graduate, Shrek) and some Japanese independent movies. One could also watch a variety of documentaries, including one about the development of the 787. I chose to split my time between watching some programs on the IFE and reading my Kindle. At some point I went to the galley to grab some more of the rice/seaweed snacks and a glass of kabosu. By that point I was addicted...

The crew made several drink runs and walked by on at least 4 occasions to distribute immigration and customs forms. It seems that they were determined to make sure no-one forgot to get one. About 2 hours prior to landing we were given a generous lunch of cheese-tomato pasta, fruit and yogurt. I asked for some more kabosu to wash it down. Metal cutlery again!

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Pre-landing snack

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A much more northerly path than expected for this particular route

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Cruising above the north Pacific


KONICHIWA TOKYO

Upon arrival we headed to immigration, which was a total breeze (I love how organized the Japanese are) and we then walked to the baggage reclaim. Both our bags were of the last few pieces to show up and for a moment I got worried that they got stuck in LAX. After clearing customs, we bought Limousine Bus tickets and took a seat at a bench to wait for our bus. While waiting, a couple of security guards (policemen?) walked up to us and in a very friendly manner asked to see our passports. Each of them took out a notebook and wrote down the details of our documents. No idea why. The guy who was examining my passport asked me what country it was from. When I told him, he looked confused and asked me what continent that country was in. I told him it's in Europe, to which he responded with a prolonged "ooooh" and a nod.

The bus picked us up from right in front the Departures area. The Limousine Bus company runs a number of routes from NRT, each stopping at a different combination of hotels at different parts of town. Our bus was meant to stop at 4 hotels in the Akasaka area. The ride was meant to last anywhere between 80 and 100 minutes but due to the traffic and the slowness of our driver (even mopeds were overtaking us on the highway) it wasn't until 2:15 hours before we finally reached our hotel.

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The bus that would take us to our hotel in Akasaka




5 DAYS IN TOKYO WELL-SPENT

The hotel we chose to stay was the Grand Arc Hanzomon in Chiyoda, right next to the Imperial Palace and its distinctive moat. The view from our room was amazing and it probably ranks as the 2nd best hotel view I've ever had. One could see the Tokyo skyline, the Imperial Palace moat (the Sakurada segment) and the Imperial Palace "island", the National Theater and the Supreme Court. In addition one could also see the Tokyo Tower and other high-rises very clearly.


HOTEL GRAND ARC HANZOMON

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The Hotel Grand Arc Hanzomon

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The logo and Japanese name of our hotel

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The amazing view from our hotel room by day

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...and by night

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Japanese-style toilet with all the quirky extras

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Exquisite Sencha Japanese green tea offered by the hotel. It tastes like seaweed tea to me. I am a big fan.

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Our hotel (center) as seen from the south end of the Imperial Palace moat

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Another perspective of the room view


I do not recall much from our first night at the hotel. We were so exhausted that we just showered and crashed for some much-needed sleep. Our sleep however was short lived. At about 2am I woke up feeling someone shaking me. I opened my eyes and saw everything in the room moving back and forth. The bag I had left on the table was rocking so violently that it almost fell to the ground. I guess Tokyo wasted no time in welcoming us with a decent size earthquake. Even though I grew up in the Balkans where earthquakes are fairly common, this was by far the one I felt the most. Despite my fatigue I could not fall back asleep not so much out of fear but out of excitement... My wife however went back to sleep right away. The next day I found out that the magnitude of the earthquake was just a meager 5.1 on the Richter scale, while the day before Hokkaido was hit by a 6.1 one.

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Staying awake for the dawn after the earthquake

Our 5 days in Tokyo were spent roaming around trying to see as many places as we could. Unfortunately the weather was not on our side as it was rainy for most part. To add insult to injury both my wife and I got sick (my wife suspects it was viral pneumonia) so we were fairly miserable. We felt very weak (thus unable to walk long distances as it is required in such trips), we were very sensitive to cold (and the weather was rather cold to begin with), and we had completely lost our appetite for food (thus negating one of the main purposes of the trip which was to eat as much good sushi as possible). What a bummer. Nonetheless, we pushed on and managed to cross out most of the items on our checklist of things-to-do and things-to-eat. We checked out the Imperial Palace exterior, visited the Asakusa area, took a boat ride down the Sumida river, saw the Tokyo Sky Tree, saw the harbor, visited Odaiba, Shinjuku, Shibuya and Harajuku, saw Tokyo from a couple of observatories and visited a number of parks. Not bad. The only thing that we wanted to do but failed to was to visit the famous Tsukiji fish market for a fresh fish breakfast. But let's face it, who wakes up at 4am to take the train in order to eat raw fish, when terribly sick and jet lagged? Well, we were genuinely willing to but we just physically couldn't...

Here is a photo-summary of the places we saw while in Tokyo:


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Some early blossoms

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At a yakitori restaurant

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The menu. Good luck with that. Especially when no-one in the restaurant speaks a lick of English.

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From right to left: Livers, quail eggs, pork chunks, beef cartilage, chicken thighs, asparagus inside intestines and shishito peppers.

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Rainbow Bridge as seen from a Yurikamome Line train.

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The Yurikamome Line trains do not have a driver so you can take a seat in the front and marvel at the views

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Looking at the skyline of Odaiba, a man-made island on Tokyo's harbor full of amusement areas and buildings of exceptional architecture

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A car exhibition at Odaiba. This is the new Toyota Aqua (or Prius C as it is known outside Japan).

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Interesting vessel at the harbor

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The "Palette Town" Ferris-wheel at Odaiba, which we rode


Getting ready to ride the Palette Town (on the fully-transparent gondola no less)

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From the apex of the wheel once can see HND in the distance

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View of central Tokyo from Odaiba

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Shibuya

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Hirakawa-Temman-gū, near our hotel.

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The enormous Tokyo Sky Tree, officially not open until May 2012. At 2080ft tall (634m) it's the 2nd tallest structure in the world behind Burj Khalifa.

Lunch at a traditional restaurant:
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Statue of Hachiko, the dog that waited for its dead owner to show up at the train station for several years. You may have seen the movie about him.


Continued below...


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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15948 times:

A few photos from the Meiji Shrine on a very rainy day:

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Purification fountain at the entrance of the shrine

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Barrels of sake outside the Meiji Shrine

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The rain kept going strong near Shinjuku hiding most of its skyline

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Conveyor belt Sushi at its best

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...and with a huge Tuna in full view

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Delicious fish roe sushi

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Fugu! We just weren't feeling well enough to give it a shot...

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Shinjuku Gyoen Park

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The Asahi Beer HQs, with the famous golden turd on the roof.

Photos from around the Imperial Palace
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Photos from the Asakusa Shrine:
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TOKYO CRUISE

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Line: Sumida Line
Route: Asakusa-Hinode Pier (via Hamarikyu)
Operator: Tokyo Cruise (SujoBus)
Vessel: River Town (リバー タウン)

On our 3rd day in town we decided to take a boat ride from Asakusa down the Sumida river to the Hinode area near the main port. Our boat was a double-decker and we decided to seat at the lower level where it was much quieter. Because of the gloomy weather the photos I shot from the boat do not do justice to the lovely urban landscapes we came across. Here are a few photos:


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Our boat waiting at Asakusa

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Boat ride ticket

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Boat interior

A few photos from the boat ride:
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Our boat anchored at Hinode Pier

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A slightly older boat next to the pier

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Time for the return to Asakusa

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An elevated train station near Shimbashi

Views of Tokyo from the Metropolitan Gov Building Observatory:
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Near the Ginza

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Hibiya Park

CONCLUSION OF PART I

Not sure what to say about United. I guess I don't know what exactly they did wrong with our reservation so I cannot be specific about it. Maybe it was something to do with the integration of their electronic systems, or perhaps it was something that went wrong during check-in at ORD. Bottom line is that once more something went wrong while flying with them. As for the flights themselves, they were subpar too. I mean, a 4-hour flight with just a drink or two, and not even a pack of peanuts? Sure, they offered meals for purchase, but last time I checked UA was not a LoCo. But perhaps I am being unfair. This is how the industry is for most part nowadays. I shouldn't single UA out.

ANA on the other hand was superb. The staff was friendly and extremely helpful, the aircraft was in an immaculate condition and with a very functional cabin and the service was one of the best I've had (perhaps not as good as on OZ but pretty close).

As for Tokyo, it is hard to put into words how much this city has to offer. Sure, it is huge and a bit overwhelming but once you get used to it you can't help but love it.

Our next stop after Tokyo was the island of Hokkaido at the very north of Japan. All about this segment of the trip can be found in Part II coming up next.

Stay tuned for the 2nd part titled "ANAbelievable Japan: Chillin in Sapporo. Literally".

Thanks for reading!

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User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6176 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 15584 times:

Excellent trip report, can't wait for the second part. Your pictures took my back to my visit to Tokyo back in Nov. 2010. Very true, at first sight it is very overwhelming, however, once you get used to it you just can't help but fall in love with the city/.


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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6639 posts, RR: 78
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 15545 times:

Hi WideBodyroga,

great report with many stunning pictures! NH's long-haul product looks impressive. I really need to visit Japan again - ANA's 787 would be a good option.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The options for getting to Tokyo from Chicago were plenty but my wife (despite being a very proud American) vetoed all US carriers on the Trans-Pacific segment (she knows better).

Well done!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Tight legroom, just a drink (no snack) for a 4-hour flight, United's service is as basic as one can imagine.

How disappointing. Even some LCCs offer a better product.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
However they diplomatically avoided answering my questions about how UA had messed up, presumably not wanting to expose their colleagues. How professional.

  

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I decided to try the advertised, ANA original, "Aromatic Kabosu", a soft drink made of a Japanese variety of lime. I loved it. Our meal options were a Japanese tray containing a chicken Teriyaki main dish with vegetables, fish salad, egg and spinach salad, soba noodles with sauce, and some fruit, or a Western tray containing seafood pasta with vegetables, a salmon salad, pickled mushrooms and peppers, a block of cheese and a fresh bread roll. Both meals came with a bottle of water. I chose the Western, while my wife opted for the Japanese. The portions were very generous, the quality exceptional, and I should not forget to mention the ANA-branded metal cutlery! I opted for a beer while my wife had some white wine. For dessert we were each given a Haagen-Dazs vanilla ice-cream cup but both of us were too stuffed to finish it. Finally we were offered some delicious Japanese green tea.
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Food and drinks menu:

Very, very impressive. High-quality catering on ANA!


PH



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4207 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14873 times:

Hi WideBodyroga

fantastic to read your first installment on the Japan tour!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
As a result we wanted to take a 10-day holiday in the Spring and travel somewhere (preferably) far away. After much thinking we narrowed our options down to 2 alternatives. 1) A trip to the BeNeLux

Hmm,... so Benelux is next on the list?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Well, my bank (which I have since abandoned) had this ingenious rule where all transactions with foreign companies (even if the transaction is in US dollars) are subject to a 3% fee. I found this the hard way when I booked some flights on LH's American website, paid in US$, yet I was charged almost $100 in "foreign transaction" fees.

Bye bye to the bank. F*ck them, this is insane. I would never ever accept this and, I think, it is even forbidden for banks to do this in my country.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
At 4am the following morning, we jumped onto a cab and after 30 mins of rocking on to "Jesus FM" we got dropped off at ORD.

Jesus FM? I guess I would jump out and take another cab...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Tight legroom, just a drink (no snack) for a 4-hour flight, United's service is as basic as one can imagine.

Really poor, this company will not get my money when I'm over to the US again.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
After waiting for about 30 mins we managed to speak to an agent who informed us that she could not issue us the boarding passes and that we had to go to the International Terminal and get them from ANA.

Unbelievable how bad UA is! And this is within the same alliance even. They mess up a booking made on their own website... Would a strong complain make sense?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
We explained that we had just arrived from Chicago, that we had already checked our bags at ORD and that all we wanted was our boarding passes to NRT. He asked us to join the main check-in line but a few minutes later he came back and asked us to follow him to the business class check-in counter where another agent would help us. How nice of him!

First touches of Japanese hospitality! Love it!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
In general my impression of the ANA staff was extremely positive. They took interest in us, helped us avoid the unnecessary long wait to get our boarding passes and solved the ticket issue, all the while being extremely friendly and pleasant. I wish everyone was like that.

All Japanese airlines are like this, no doubts about that. That's one reason I love this country for!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
we took our seats one row behind the bulkhead. Of course in front of us there was a family with a baby. There's always one.

Yes, the downside of sitting at or near a bulkhead. Baby basinets are placed here, so it can also become a miserable 12 hours when the child is crying all time and the parents are also not the kind of people you want to see... for me on longhauls in Y, as far as possible from a bulkhead   Just to be sure...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I couldn't wait to get to Hokkaido before having a cold Sapporo Beer.

I prefer Sapporo Beer over Asahi Super Dry. Good choice ANA! JAL serves Asahi btw

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
While waiting, a couple of security guards (policemen?) walked up to us and in a very friendly manner asked to see our passports. Each of them took out a notebook and wrote down the details of our documents. No idea why. The guy who was examining my passport asked me what country it was from. When I told him, he looked confused and asked me what continent that country was in. I told him it's in Europe, to which he responded with a prolonged "ooooh" and a nod.

Never heard about this. You look suspicious to them haha

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Japanese-style toilet with all the quirky extras

Love it. Can spend all day on it LOL

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
At about 2am I woke up feeling someone shaking me. I opened my eyes and saw everything in the room moving back and forth. The bag I had left on the table was rocking so violently that it almost fell to the ground. I guess Tokyo wasted no time in welcoming us with a decent size earthquake.

Yokoso Japan! That's always possible in this country. Or a good typfoon in late summer... As long as it stays like this, not too bad and maybe (nice) experience for us not used to it. But we all have seen how bad the outcome of a strong earthquake can be, even in a country like Japan. I wish that would never happen again.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The only thing that we wanted to do but failed to was to visit the famous Tsukiji fish market for a fresh fish breakfast. But let's face it, who wakes up at 4am to take the train in order to eat raw fish, when terribly sick and jet lagged? Well, we were genuinely willing to but we just physically couldn't...

I've been to Japan and Tokyo about 15 times now, and have done and seen all you featured in this tripreport. But also for me, even not being sick, never visited the fishmarket. I think I couldn't make the 4am target in the morning  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Interesting vessel at the harbor

Looks like a RoRo, car transport?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
As for Tokyo, it is hard to put into words how much this city has to offer. Sure, it is huge and a bit overwhelming but once you get used to it you can't help but love it.

Indeed.... even when you visit a lot of times, it keeps attracting me also. Can't help to return to this place in late summer when I noticed the great SU offer from Europe. Currently I'm making a travel plan to spend about 15 days in the country. Looking forward to this trip!

Looking forward to your Hokkaido part, an area which I have not been to yet so that would be very interesting to read for me.

Regards
Eric



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User currently onlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3019 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14863 times:

Great report Stojan! Good to see you having a good time in Japan even if you were both sick.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
"Your connecting boarding passes cannot be processed at an airport kiosk. Please proceed to directly to the United ticket counter at your originating airport to obtain your boarding passes".

Ha, what a hassle. I see that *A have stopped harping on about "seamless connections" so much so obviosuly they know things aren't very smooth. Shame that UA managed to ruin your outbound flights. Perhaps you should have gone on BA via LHR to HND?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
What I loved about the new cabin however is the seat reclining mechanism. Instead of compromising the space of the person behind you, this reclining method uses you own leg space in order to recline your seat. Instead of your seat-back reclining backwards, this mechanism slides your bum forward, hence pulling the lower side of your seat-back forward and down. No need to feel guilty for reclining with these seats. You just use your own (already generous) leg space. Ingenious! I have suffered enough from overenthusiastic over-recliners over the years. All of us have.

Isn't that the same system that CX tried to almost unanimous hatred by Y pax? It's one thing on a full flight, but annoying to loose your own legroom on an empty flight with no one sitting behind

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Japanese Meal

food looks great

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The amazing view from our hotel room by day

Looks like you chose of good hotel. I used to stay at the Akasaka Prince Hotel, which had great views, although alas it closed down a few years ago. V sad.



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User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14615 times:

Hi Widebodyroga,

An excellent trip report with some wonderful shots in Tokyo.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 1):
Not sure what to say about United.

They're consistent? It seems that you have no joy with them whenever you travel with them. ANA on the other hand is in a different league altogether.

Thanks for sharing. I look forward to Part 2.

Roy/ Quokkas


User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14595 times:

Enjoyable read!
Great pictures of Tokyo too! Would love to visit Japan some time.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
vetoed all US carriers on the Trans-Pacific segment (she knows better)

You have a clever wife

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
paid in US$, yet I was charged almost $100 in "foreign transaction" fees.

That's riddiculous!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Surprisingly UA had not bothered to tell us about it. I was not happy about this. I decided to keep checking our reservations every few days in case more changes were made without notification.

UA has never called me when a reservation had been changed. DL always calls me, even if it's just a flightnumber change.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Departure Management Card idea on 3 different occasions (you can read about one of them HERE)

A what? I guess have another report to read.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
How nice of him

The good-service from a non-US carrier is already starting!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Ingenious! I

Indeed!


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1570 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14590 times:
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Hello Widebodyroga,

Excellent stuff my friend. Very nice destination pics of Tokyo. And thanks for providing an insight into ANA, an airline that is not much featured here. I'm very glad to see they were of excellent standard as opposed to UA. What a mess with your tickets, lucky for you the ANA checkin staff saved the day for you.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
1) A trip to the BeNeLux

Next time then hopefully? I'll show you around (well, not in the whole of BeNeLux of course  )

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
What's more, both our Trans-Pacific segments were to be operated by NH's recently refurbished 777-300ERs with the new cabins.

That's really something to look forward to!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
the aircraft was meant to have a 2-4-3 configuration in economy

That's a strange config. Was it really like that on the plane?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The neon lights at the underground walkway connecting the B & C concourses at ORD

That looks nice and modern.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I was sleepless, tired and annoyed.

I can understand your aggrevation. No excuse for UA here and glad the ANA staff came to the rescue because otherwise I think it would've been a lost battle.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Instead of your seat-back reclining backwards, this mechanism slides your bum forward, hence pulling the lower side of your seat-back forward and down.

I believe CX has these seats as well. Mixed reviews although on these seats...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Japanese Meal
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Western Meal

Well presented and tasty by the looks of it!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I guess Tokyo wasted no time in welcoming us with a decent size earthquake.

Blimey, that was scary, no?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Fugu! We just weren't feeling well enough to give it a shot...

The more poisonous than poison fish. Probably cultivated on an industrial scale and thus harmless but nevertheless...

Sultanils



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User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1680 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14536 times:

Hi Widebodyroga

What a great report! The quality of the food and the presentation really look very nice. There are not many airlines still serving up something like that in Economy Class I don't think. It's also amazing to see how all the dishes on the food tray are perfectly aligned. That's what I like so much about Japan and the Japanese, their amazing attention to detail.

Thanks for posting!

Cheers,
William


User currently offlinewin1290 From Thailand, joined Jan 2012, 280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14033 times:

Hi WideBodyroga,

Thanks for the very nice trip report! ANA looks very nice indeed. Food looks very neat and well-presented. Love the pictures on the menu too. Your pictures in Tokyo made me really excited about my upcoming trip to the city later in the week  .

Thanks

Win


User currently offlineEmpressOfCanada From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13929 times:

Wow, fantastic TR, great pics! Tokyo is now on my bucket list! Can't wait for part 2! Thanks : )

User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1881 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 13374 times:
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Great report, widebodyroga!

I love your photos from Japan - I'd love to vist; its definitely on my bucket list.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Erm...Okay...

Haha! I love this ... Airline humor.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I also noticed that our departure from ORD to LAX was pushed back by 45 minutes (hence making our layover at LAX dangerously short). Surprisingly UA had not bothered to tell us about it. I was not happy about this. I decided to keep checking our reservations every few days in case more changes were made without notification.

This happened to us when flying UA through IAD to connect to SAS and CPH. We had a ridiculously tight connection, and barely made our SAS flight. Thank god my fiancee and I are good runners ...  

Best,

Matthew


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5900 posts, RR: 40
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 13300 times:

what great report!

I have a Japan visit long overdue! but now with this report I want to go even this year!
Unforutnately the flights ex CCS to Japan a little bit complicate or with LH via Europe (surprinsigly the fastest connection) its very expensive! But let see if I can make it still this year.

Thanks and regards
Avianca



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2068 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12970 times:

Great report!

great pics as well, cant wait to read your part 2 of your trip report. Japan is on my list of places to visit someday, hopefully ill visit there someday ad fly NH as well! 



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User currently offlinetriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks ago) and read 12674 times:
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Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
A much more northerly path than expected for this particular route

It is not uncommon for flights to take a northerly route especially during the winter months. I saw your TR on Asiana, and you went up over 70 degrees north. I have done that twice on AA JFK-NRT and DFW-NRT (which normally does not go that far north). At least you get some nice scenery over the coast of California and Alaska.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Our 5 days in Tokyo were spent roaming around trying to see as many places as we could. Unfortunately the weather was not on our side as it was rainy for most part.

Unfortunately it can rain for 2 or 3 days without letting up at all...you think it will never stop. I learned to keep my umbrella with me.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The only thing that we wanted to do but failed to was to visit the famous Tsukiji fish market for a fresh fish breakfast. But let's face it, who wakes up at 4am to take the train in order to eat raw fish, when terribly sick and jet lagged? Well, we were genuinely willing to but we just physically couldn't...

I lived in Soka, just outside Tokyo for 4 years and never visited the Tsukiji Fish Market. Problem was the trains didn't run that early, so I would have needed to stay near there the night before.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Statue of Hachiko, the dog that waited for its dead owner to show up at the train station for several years. You may have seen the movie about him.

Hachiko is a famous meeting place as a lot of young people hang out in Shibuya. The movie about Hachi with Richard Gere is excellent.

It sounds like you had a great time in Japan and I especially enjoyed your pics of Tokyo as I used to live there. Seeing the pics at LAX reminded me of a trip I took from LAX-NRT 7 years ago with my 2 cats. I will give you the link to that TR. Enjoy your time in Japan! DFW-LAX-NRT With 2 Cats (by Triple7man Jun 3 2005 in Trip Reports)



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User currently offlinebritjap From Japan, joined Aug 2006, 280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12480 times:

Hi WBRoga

Nice report. Glad you seem to have enjoyed yourself over here, despite the issues with illness.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
What I loved about the new cabin however is the seat reclining mechanism.

Yes yes yes!!!!!!! I have seen so many people complain about seats like this that have been used by CX. But I flew on ANA from FRA to NRT a few weeks ago on a 77W with this same new interior config, and these seats are just about the best thing in passenger comfort since...... flamin' pressurised cabins were created!!!! I really don't care that I lose some of my own leg room as long as I dont have to spend 11 hours crushed up in my seat because the A**hole in front of me reclines the second the seat belt sign goes out.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Branded metal cutlery. It subsequently mysteriously disappeared and found its way to my bag

Tsk tsk tsk!!! Shocking behaviour for a gentleman to admit to.  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Our bus was meant to stop at 4 hotels in the Akasaka area.

Akasaka?!! You should have told me you were coming. I could have showed you around.

Looking forward to part two.

BTW I like your title page/image

[Edited 2012-04-02 07:52:50]

User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 675 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12231 times:

Hello Widebodyroga,

what an amazing report, really loved it. Good idea to go to Japan on your vacation, this must be a special place. Never been there myself, but your report really sparked my desire to go there.

Too bad about your experience with UA. Problems like the one with your reservation can happen, but I think it wasn't handled well. I am pretty sure they could have already sort it in ORD. At least the ANA staff in LAX came to your rescue. Actually UA was once my favorite airline in the 90s, when I have done a few transatlantic flights with them. Sad to see what has become of them.

But it seems that ANA compensates a lot for the bad UA experience. Food looks really great.

Wonderful pictures you had taken during your visit in Tokyo. Too bad you didn't feel well, but great that you still managed to see so many things. Amazing city.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The neon lights at the underground walkway connecting the B & C concourses at ORD

I remember that tunnel from my visits to ORD, really liked it with all the light and sound effects. Plus the knowledge that widebody airplanes are taxiing right above your head makes this an interesting experience.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The menu. Good luck with that. Especially when no-one in the restaurant speaks a lick of English.

Seems like you have to use the point-and-shoot method then to order. Certainly a nice adventure   Actually all your food pictures really looked nice, amazing how the Japanese can even make intestines (yuck) look so delicious   ...

Now looking forward to the next part...

CaptainRed


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12079 times:

Thank you so much for your responses so far guys. I really appreciate it.

Quoting chepos (Reply 2):

Excellent trip report, can't wait for the second part. Your pictures took my back to my visit to Tokyo back in Nov. 2010. Very true, at first sight it is very overwhelming, however, once you get used to it you just can't help but fall in love with the city/.

Thanks chepos. How was Tokyo in November? I have only been there in Spring/early Summer.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
great report with many stunning pictures! NH's long-haul product looks impressive. I really need to visit Japan again - ANA's 787 would be a good option.

Thanks PH! NH was great and so was Japan overall (despite the circumstances). The 787 would definitely be the ideal way to visit the country nowadays  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
How disappointing. Even some LCCs offer a better product.

Isn't it funny when a LCC (Southwest) offers more in terms of in-flight service than a Legacy airline like UA? I think that what defines a LCC nowadays is simply whether they assign seats or not...

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
fantastic to read your first installment on the Japan tour!

Thanks Eric!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Hmm,... so Benelux is next on the list?

It's definitely high on the list, but as I mentioned at the beginning of the TR, it will be a while before we take a long trip again.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Bye bye to the bank. F*ck them, this is insane. I would never ever accept this and, I think, it is even forbidden for banks to do this in my country.

I waved them goodbye soon after that fiasco. My new bank is so much better.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Jesus FM? I guess I would jump out and take another cab...

Haha, same here but, alas, we were in a hurry to make it to the airport on time. At some point I couldn't help but start giggling at the lyrics until my wife poked me reminding me to be respectful. She is much more politically correct than I am. Especially at 4 in the morning 
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Really poor, this company will not get my money when I'm over to the US again.

I don't see myself flying with UA again (out of choice) to be honest.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Unbelievable how bad UA is! And this is within the same alliance even. They mess up a booking made on their own website... Would a strong complain make sense?

You have a point. I should write a complaint but I wonder if they will even read it.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Yes, the downside of sitting at or near a bulkhead. Baby basinets are placed here, so it can also become a miserable 12 hours when the child is crying all time and the parents are also not the kind of people you want to see... for me on longhauls in Y, as far as possible from a bulkhead   Just to be sure...

Good idea. I used to be excited about bulkheads but over time I have come to realize that they are overrated.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
I prefer Sapporo Beer over Asahi Super Dry. Good choice ANA! JAL serves Asahi btw

ANA offered Sapporo, Asahi and Kirin. I had to try all 3 
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Never heard about this. You look suspicious to them haha

Yes, indeed... It used to be even worse in the past when I sported long hair and a beard 
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
I've been to Japan and Tokyo about 15 times now, and have done and seen all you featured in this tripreport. But also for me, even not being sick, never visited the fishmarket. I think I couldn't make the 4am target in the morning

15 times? Wow, that is quite some love you got for Tokyo. I don't blame you though. If it was up to me, I would visit every year. I hear that the Tsukiji market will move to Toyosu in the near future. I think that was my last chance to visit it in its original location.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Looks like a RoRo, car transport?

Quite possibly. It looks like one.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Looking forward to your Hokkaido part, an area which I have not been to yet so that would be very interesting to read for me.

Thanks Eric. I should have it up within the week.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Great report Stojan! Good to see you having a good time in Japan even if you were both sick.

Hey Gab, thanks!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Perhaps you should have gone on BA via LHR to HND?

Now that is an idea... 
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Isn't that the same system that CX tried to almost unanimous hatred by Y pax? It's one thing on a full flight, but annoying to loose your own legroom on an empty flight with no one sitting behind

Yeah, not everyone is a fan of them, but I guess as far as I'm concerned I'm more likely to benefit from these seats than not.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Looks like you chose of good hotel. I used to stay at the Akasaka Prince Hotel, which had great views, although alas it closed down a few years ago. V sad.

I have heard lots of good things about Akasaka Prince. Too bad it shut down. The hotel we stayed at was not too far from it. I would highly recommend it.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
An excellent trip report with some wonderful shots in Tokyo.

Thanks Roy! Glad you enjoyed it.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
They're consistent? It seems that you have no joy with them whenever you travel with them. ANA on the other hand is in a different league altogether.

Haha, you can say that. I was impressed with ANA on this segment. I'm looking forward to fly with them again.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
Thanks for sharing. I look forward to Part 2.

Thank you!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):

Enjoyable read!
Great pictures of Tokyo too! Would love to visit Japan some time.

Thanks Robert! It's one of those places you have to visit at least once in your lifetime!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
You have a clever wife

Hehe, I know. She knows to appreciate the good stuff. 
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
That's riddiculous!

Tell me about it. Like I already mentioned, I switched banks so I don't have to deal with them anymore.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
UA has never called me when a reservation had been changed. DL always calls me, even if it's just a flightnumber change.

Exactly! DL has always informed me of the slightest change in a reservation. What's UA's deal that doesn't bother to do so? How hard can it be? It could all be done automatically as far as I know.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
A what? I guess have another report to read.

Ah yes, the D.M.C. I wanna slap whoever came up with it  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Excellent stuff my friend. Very nice destination pics of Tokyo. And thanks for providing an insight into ANA, an airline that is not much featured here. I'm very glad to see they were of excellent standard as opposed to UA. What a mess with your tickets, lucky for you the ANA checkin staff saved the day for you.

Hey Nils, thanks! Yes, UA and NH - as different as day and night...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Next time then hopefully? I'll show you around (well, not in the whole of BeNeLux of course &nbsp Wink

That would be great! Besides I still owe you a cold one!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
That's a strange config. Was it really like that on the plane?

Yes indeed. For most of the aircraft's length (in economy) this was the configuration. We sat on the side with the 2 seats, so we had both a window and an isle seat. It was great.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
I believe CX has these seats as well. Mixed reviews although on these seats...

Yeah. Like I mentioned above, they get my vote but I understand how some people can find them annoying.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
Blimey, that was scary, no?

Yeah, I was shaken (pun intended) after it happened. Maybe it startled me more than it would otherwise because it happened while I was asleep

Quoting sultanils (Reply 8):
The more poisonous than poison fish. Probably cultivated on an industrial scale and thus harmless but nevertheless...

True. Still though, it was sad we couldn't say that we tried it....

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 9):
What a great report! The quality of the food and the presentation really look very nice. There are not many airlines still serving up something like that in Economy Class I don't think. It's also amazing to see how all the dishes on the food tray are perfectly aligned. That's what I like so much about Japan and the Japanese, their amazing attention to detail.

Thanks William! I guess Asian carriers (for most part) still offer a very good service in Economy. I loved the food presentation too. Every dish we had in Japan (on an aircraft or not) had a lovely and very orderly presentation.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 10):
Thanks for the very nice trip report! ANA looks very nice indeed. Food looks very neat and well-presented. Love the pictures on the menu too. Your pictures in Tokyo made me really excited about my upcoming trip to the city later in the week  .

Thanks Win! What airline are you flying with? Have a great time and do write a TR about it!

Quoting EmpressOfCanada (Reply 11):
Wow, fantastic TR, great pics! Tokyo is now on my bucket list! Can't wait for part 2! Thanks : )

Thanks Empress! It is almost halfway done  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 12):
Great report, widebodyroga!

I love your photos from Japan - I'd love to vist; its definitely on my bucket list.

Thanks Matthew! You should definitely visit!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 12):
Haha! I love this ... Airline humor.

Hehe, that's one way to look at it  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 12):
This happened to us when flying UA through IAD to connect to SAS and CPH. We had a ridiculously tight connection, and barely made our SAS flight. Thank god my fiancee and I are good runners ...  

That's ridiculous. They just don't think it's worth notifying the pax. I guess UA thinks it's the pax's responsibility to keep track of any changes... Not very professional if you ask me.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 13):

what great report!

I have a Japan visit long overdue! but now with this report I want to go even this year!
Unforutnately the flights ex CCS to Japan a little bit complicate or with LH via Europe (surprinsigly the fastest connection) its very expensive! But let see if I can make it still this year.

Thanks and regards
Avianca

Thank you Avianca! I'm glad that I gave you an extra incentive for wanting to visit this amazing country. I'm sorry to hear that it is so complicated to get there from CCS. I hope you can make it there very soon!

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 14):
Great report!

great pics as well, cant wait to read your part 2 of your trip report. Japan is on my list of places to visit someday, hopefully ill visit there someday ad fly NH as well! 

Thanks 817D!

Quoting triple7man (Reply 15):
It is not uncommon for flights to take a northerly route especially during the winter months. I saw your TR on Asiana, and you went up over 70 degrees north. I have done that twice on AA JFK-NRT and DFW-NRT (which normally does not go that far north). At least you get some nice scenery over the coast of California and Alaska.

You are right. My surprise for the northerly route we took comes from the fact that I had been monitoring the routes of the NH 5 flights (LAX-NRT on ANA) for several weeks prior to our trip and the vast majority of them followed a route that was considerably more southern. I'm glad we did take a northerly route though. Like you said, it offered some nice views of Alaska.

Quoting triple7man (Reply 15):
Unfortunately it can rain for 2 or 3 days without letting up at all...you think it will never stop. I learned to keep my umbrella with me.

Fortunately it was not windy so as long as you had an umbrella you were OK.

Quoting triple7man (Reply 15):
I lived in Soka, just outside Tokyo for 4 years and never visited the Tsukiji Fish Market.

I shouldn't feel too bad then  
Quoting triple7man (Reply 15):
Hachiko is a famous meeting place as a lot of young people hang out in Shibuya. The movie about Hachi with Richard Gere is excellent.

Indeed, the statue was surrounded by young folk. Shibuya was so insanely busy, we just went there to see Hachiko and then left right away to avoid the crowds.

Quoting triple7man (Reply 15):
It sounds like you had a great time in Japan and I especially enjoyed your pics of Tokyo as I used to live there. Seeing the pics at LAX reminded me of a trip I took from LAX-NRT 7 years ago with my 2 cats. I will give you the link to that TR.

Thanks triple7man! I just read your TR and the subsequent updates. I'm glad your cats made it fine to Japan. What an experience that must have been for you and for them! Fortunately I don't think I'll need to travel with a pet anytime soon. Also I am sorry to learn about the subsequent loss of your cats. They lived a long, and I'm sure very happy, life alongside you.

Quoting britjap (Reply 16):
Nice report. Glad you seem to have enjoyed yourself over here, despite the issues with illness.

Thanks Britjap!

Quoting britjap (Reply 16):
Yes yes yes!!!!!!! I have seen so many people complain about seats like this that have been used by CX. But I flew on ANA from FRA to NRT a few weeks ago on a 77W with this same new interior config, and these seats are just about the best thing in passenger comfort since...... flamin' pressurised cabins were created!!!! I really don't care that I lose some of my own leg room as long as I dont have to spend 11 hours crushed up in my seat because the A**hole in front of me reclines the second the seat belt sign goes out.

Amen, brother!   Couldn't agree more  
Quoting britjap (Reply 16):
Tsk tsk tsk!!! Shocking behaviour for a gentleman to admit to.  

I just couldn't help it. They looked so cute...

Quoting britjap (Reply 16):
Akasaka?!! You should have told me you were coming. I could have showed you around.

Is that where (or near where) you live? Given that whatever we had was probably contagious, it's probably better we didn't arrange to meet up!  
Quoting britjap (Reply 16):
Looking forward to part two.

BTW I like your title page/image

Thanks! I changed it many times before the final version.  
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17):
what an amazing report, really loved it. Good idea to go to Japan on your vacation, this must be a special place. Never been there myself, but your report really sparked my desire to go there.

Thanks CaptainRed. I'm glad you liked it and that you are now considering visiting.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17):
Too bad about your experience with UA. Problems like the one with your reservation can happen, but I think it wasn't handled well. I am pretty sure they could have already sort it in ORD. At least the ANA staff in LAX came to your rescue. Actually UA was once my favorite airline in the 90s, when I have done a few transatlantic flights with them. Sad to see what has become of them.

I have seen quite a few airlines change (for the worst) over the years. I guess I never flew UA in during its good times so I can't really compare.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17):
Wonderful pictures you had taken during your visit in Tokyo. Too bad you didn't feel well, but great that you still managed to see so many things. Amazing city.

Thanks. Indeed, a one of a kind place.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17):
I remember that tunnel from my visits to ORD, really liked it with all the light and sound effects. Plus the knowledge that widebody airplanes are taxiing right above your head makes this an interesting experience.

Ah yes, I forgot to mention the sound effects. Very soothing. It's a cool place indeed.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 17):
Seems like you have to use the point-and-shoot method then to order. Certainly a nice adventure  Actually all your food pictures really looked nice, amazing how the Japanese can even make intestines (yuck) look so delicious   ...

Yup, absolutely, this is the method we used to order food most of the times. Good thing that the Japanese are so patient and polite so we always managed to communicate one way or another. As for the intestines.... Let's me just say that they were NOT the most unusual (or most commonly perceived as disgusting) food we had in Japan. In Hokkaido we tried some other foods that I'm pretty sure will make a few people gag. 

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User currently offlinewin1290 From Thailand, joined Jan 2012, 280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11422 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):
Thanks Win! What airline are you flying with? Have a great time and do write a TR about it!

Thanks! I will be flying with Thai Airways, sure I will write about it.

Win


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11363 times:

HI

Nice trip report, good too see an ANA report! Their Y class looks miles ahead of other products.
Nice pics in Tokyo as well


Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10847 times:

Tokyo seems to have changed a lot since I was there in 1977. Thanks for all the pics.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11845 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 10736 times:
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Maybe snacks weren't offered due to the departure time from ORD? On the red eye UA flights from LAX-ORD I've taken they didn't offer snacks but after asking I was given some - so they seem to be on the flight ready.

I've always booked my UA flights via NZ but after finally checking fares last year I've decided I can fly first class on US for less then what NZ charges me to connect to UA.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5900 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10301 times:

I just made some more research on a possible trip to Japan this year, your report is really facinating!

Would be October still a good season to travel to Tokyo?

found some good fares on United flights... out of CCS, the one what is luring my eys is the following.

CCS-IAH-EWR-NRT-LAX-IAH-CCS for just 2000 USD all in!

Is 1 week just enough for Tokyo or can be a side trip to Okinawa (2 days) squeezed in?

Thanks and cheers
Avianca



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26481 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10158 times:

Hey great report and lovely photos. Always wanted to go to Japan and fly either ANA or JAL.

Seems like a pretty decent service.

Regards

Philip  



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 25, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10085 times:

Hello WideBodyroga!

Nice report!

Good to see that you had a good time in Tokyo, how exiting with that earthquake!  
Too bad about both of you getting sick though.

ANA seems to really have treated you well, I'd love to fly them some day. And their livery sure is great too.

Martin


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 26, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10024 times:

Thanks for all the additional comments guys!

Quoting win1290 (Reply 19):
Thanks! I will be flying with Thai Airways, sure I will write about it.

That sounds great. Have a great time and I'm looking forward to your report!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
Nice trip report, good too see an ANA report! Their Y class looks miles ahead of other products.
Nice pics in Tokyo as well

Thanks Marc! I appreciate it  
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 21):
Tokyo seems to have changed a lot since I was there in 1977. Thanks for all the pics.

You're welcome lychemsa. My boss (who had visited Tokyo in the 70's) tells me the same. It's a long time after all...  
Quoting 777ER (Reply 22):
On the red eye UA flights from LAX-ORD I've taken they didn't offer snacks but after asking I was given some - so they seem to be on the flight ready.

Interesting. That's good to know in case I fly with them long haul again...  
Quoting Avianca (Reply 23):
I just made some more research on a possible trip to Japan this year, your report is really facinating!

I'm glad my report triggered your desire to look into it  
Quoting Avianca (Reply 23):
Would be October still a good season to travel to Tokyo?

I'll be honest with you, I don't know. I have been there only in March and late May. Maybe one of the other guys, who have lived there, can be of more help regarding this.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 23):
found some good fares on United flights... out of CCS, the one what is luring my eys is the following.

CCS-IAH-EWR-NRT-LAX-IAH-CCS for just 2000 USD all in!

Is 1 week just enough for Tokyo or can be a side trip to Okinawa (2 days) squeezed in?

Thanks and cheers

That sounds like a bargain (as long as you don't mind flying UA  ). In my opinion, 1 week is more than enough to see all the "must-see" places in Tokyo and to get a good feel of what the city is about. I think that you can stay 5 days in Tokyo and then squeeze another couple to go to Okinawa, for sure. Funnily enough, our initial idea (instead of Sapporo) was to fly to Okinawa too, but we had to abandon it for budgetary reasons primarily. I'm excited for your behalf  
Quoting OA260 (Reply 24):
Hey great report and lovely photos. Always wanted to go to Japan and fly either ANA or JAL.

Seems like a pretty decent service.

Thanks Philip! I have flown NH and OZ on TPAC routes and they are both fantastic. Maybe next time I'll aim for JAL.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 25):
Nice report!

Good to see that you had a good time in Tokyo, how exiting with that earthquake!  
Too bad about both of you getting sick though.

ANA seems to really have treated you well, I'd love to fly them some day. And their livery sure is great too.

Thanks Martin. I love simple liveries too so ANA's is right up my alley. Experiencing the earthquake in Tokyo was definitely one of the highlights of the trip. I'm glad it wasn't any stronger though  

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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5900 posts, RR: 40
Reply 27, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10027 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 26):
That sounds like a bargain (as long as you don't mind flying UA ).

well never traveled on UA - only on the old CO ... but I am a heavy CM traveller so I am OnePass (or what is the name now') member, and my objective is to get this year * Gold... as I am just swtiched my biggest part of my business from OneWorld to * due to relocation of my living city...

Cheers
Avianca
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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 28, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9853 times:

Hi Roga,

An excellent primer on the most touristic spots in Tokyo! Thank you - some good pictures there and as usual a very nice write up. Will definitely use this as a reference guide when I finally get around planning my Japan trip in September - it is still too early to book those domestic Japanese flights (thanks to their weird system where you can book pure domestic segments only 2-3 months in advance).

ANA looks like an excellent carrier, but nothing less is really expected. I wish all of *A would share the same high standards - then flying them would be an absolute joy. A shame you didn't get on the 787, but the long version of the triple seven is another amazing plane so not too much was missed I think.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
but my wife (despite being a very proud American) vetoed all US carriers on the Trans-Pacific segment (she knows better).

Wise words. Nothing unpatriotic about that - I'd choose a foreign airlines over Finnair anyway - if for nothing else then for free beer and avoiding the pointless direct flight.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
However, we couldn't find anything that wouldn't require us selling our house to pay for it.

Hey, a second mortgage - the classic American way when you can't afford something you feel you are entitled to and quite fancy! Join the party, you can always have a third or a fourth one. Oh sorry, I guess that party is over now...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
(the aircraft was meant to have a 2-4-3 configuration in economy, therefore seats A and C are next to each other

Hmm, weird to have an asymmetrical configuration. Doesn't fit well with my obsessive-compulsive mindset  .

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
It is no secret that for me UA belongs to the "Axis of Evil" of airlines alongside IB and AZ.

Many people (including my former boss) seem to hate UA with a passion. Wonder why - it used to be US that people were loathing. Never flown with either, and I sort of have my first UA flight coming up with them in June although that is actually a Colgan Air operated Dash dba United Express. And yes, it was a Continental Express flight with a CO flight number when I booked it...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
after 30 mins of rocking on to "Jesus FM"

Really? Seriously? Couldn't you ask the driver to change the channel or wasn't that what Jesus would've done?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Tight legroom, just a drink (no snack) for a 4-hour flight,

Not even peanuts? Wow, that must be a new low!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
He asked us to join the main check-in line but a few minutes later he came back and asked us to follow him to the business class check-in counter where another agent would help us. How nice of him!

Ahh, finally someone with some sense!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The hot dog place next to our gate had very carefully and thoughtfully adjusted their prices to acclimate the passengers flying to Japan to the prices of food at their destination. Two cold cut sandwiches and $25 later, we had finally satisfied our hunger.

I hate this - opening a concession at an airport is always seen as a legitimate chance to royally rip off your customers.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
To me it smells vaguely of seaweed (even though it does not contain any) and I could drink buckets of it, even though I'm not generally a big fan of tea.

Ugh. I hate seaweed, the smell makes me sick.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Japanese Meal

Looks quite lovely. Very impressed by the catering, but I guess nothing less can be expected from a Japanese carrier. I wonder what UA would've served you? A microwave-quality chicken burger?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Western Meal

Why? When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Branded metal cutlery. It subsequently mysteriously disappeared and found its way to my bag

That's a bad behaving pair of cutlery.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I couldn't wait to get to Hokkaido before having a cold Sapporo Beer.

Hmm, I don't think I've ever had Sapporo, not 100% sure though. Plenty of Asashi though.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
(I love how organized the Japanese are)

The Asian Swiss.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
HOTEL GRAND ARC HANZOMON

I shudder to ask but how much money did you have to pony up for this? Looks like it cost at least two arms and half a leg? Unless you still managed to get an amazing bargain thanks to the Fukushima panic?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
...and by night

If you ask me this looks much more amazing than the daylight view!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Japanese-style toilet with all the quirky extras

I guess no trip report about Japan is complete without a photo of these amazing lavatorial gadgets...  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I guess Tokyo wasted no time in welcoming us with a decent size earthquake.

A nice story! I didn't realize they are such common occasions there.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
to was to visit the famous Tsukiji fish market for a fresh fish breakfast. But let's face it, who wakes up at 4am to take the train in order to eat raw fish, when terribly sick and jet lagged?

Hmm, I once woke up at six on a damp and cold January Sunday morning in Hamburg to take the U-Bahn to a fish market where the fish wasn't exactly the main attraction - rather the Germans chugging beer and Jägermeister at OMG o'clock (presumably came there straight from the nightclub on their way to the Sunday church...) and dancing to the tunes of a genuine German Schlager band! That was a genuinely surreal experience. But one I enjoyed quite a bit, thank you for asking.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
From right to left: Livers, quail eggs, pork chunks, beef cartilage, chicken thighs, asparagus inside intestines and shishito peppers.

Ugh. Although some of those things don't look bad at all.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Rainbow Bridge as seen from a Yurikamome Line train.

Ahh, the symbol of Gay Tokyo?  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
A car exhibition at Odaiba. This is the new Toyota Aqua (or Prius C as it is known outside Japan).

It runs on water?!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Statue of Hachiko, the dog that waited for its dead owner to show up at the train station for several years. You may have seen the movie about him.

Yes, didn't it have Bill Murray in it with a real catch theme tune. Ghostbuskers or something?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The Asahi Beer HQs, with the famous golden turd on the roof.

Oh my, what on earth that thing is supposed to be?! But yeah, your description seems to be quite appropriate!  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Boat ride ticket

Hey, only 760 Yen for that? Sounds very nice, I think this goes on my TODO list!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Views of Tokyo from the Metropolitan Gov Building Observatory:

Ahh, excellent views of that amazing mass of humanity that is the biggest metropolitan area on this planet. Looks like the weather was also cooperating that day!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
were subpar too. I mean, a 4-hour flight with just a drink or two, and not even a pack of peanuts? Sure, they offered meals for purchase, but last time I checked UA was not a LoCo. But perhaps I am being unfair. This is how the industry is for most part nowadays. I shouldn't single UA out.

That is indeed very bad, and to add insult to injury they merged with CO and thus destroyed the carrier that held on to serving meals in economy long after others had already given up!

And then onwards to the second part!


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 29, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 9786 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 27):
well never traveled on UA - only on the old CO ... but I am a heavy CM traveller so I am OnePass (or what is the name now') member, and my objective is to get this year * Gold... as I am just swtiched my biggest part of my business from OneWorld to * due to relocation of my living city...

I see, that makes sense then.  

I have some miles on OnePass (MileagePlus now) too and I am only a couple hundred away from an award... The easiest way to cover them would be to fly with UA.again but to be honest I may just buy them directly and avoid the hassle...



Hey Petteri, thanks for your extended comments.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
An excellent primer on the most touristic spots in Tokyo! Thank you - some good pictures there and as usual a very nice write up. Will definitely use this as a reference guide when I finally get around planning my Japan trip in September - it is still too early to book those domestic Japanese flights (thanks to their weird system where you can book pure domestic segments only 2-3 months in advance).

Always an honor to hear it from you. Glad you liked it. Even though you are the master of organizing and planning trips, let me know if you have any questions about Tokyo and I'd be glad to help. And that applies to all of you guys heading out to Tokyo in September.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Wise words. Nothing unpatriotic about that - I'd choose a foreign airlines over Finnair anyway - if for nothing else then for free beer and avoiding the pointless direct flight.

I agree. If anything, I think it is patriotic to avoid US carriers at the moment (if you are American). Perhaps a massive "boycott" will force them to improve. Last night I was reading an online article about the quality of service on US-carriers and, after reading the readers' comments at the bottom, it became apparent to me that there is a huge chunk of Americans that consciously avoid US-carriers on international segments. Lots of people have had enough with it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Hey, a second mortgage - the classic American way when you can't afford something you feel you are entitled to and quite fancy! Join the party, you can always have a third or a fourth one. Oh sorry, I guess that party is over now...

Hehe, fortunately this mentality is slowly changing. Or at least I would like to think it is...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Hmm, weird to have an asymmetrical configuration. Doesn't fit well with my obsessive-compulsive mindset  .

Nothing some alcohol couldn't help dealing with? I have several OCDs but, surprisingly, asymmetry is not one of them....

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Many people (including my former boss) seem to hate UA with a passion. Wonder why - it used to be US that people were loathing. Never flown with either, and I sort of have my first UA flight coming up with them in June although that is actually a Colgan Air operated Dash dba United Express. And yes, it was a Continental Express flight with a CO flight number when I booked it...

The article I mentioned above listed United as the absolutely worst major US carrier in a number of categories: Number of complains per passenger, lost luggage, on-time punctuality and many more, including customer service. I hope you don't have to experience any of that when you fly with them in June.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Really? Seriously? Couldn't you ask the driver to change the channel or wasn't that what Jesus would've done?

No offence to the Christians here but anyone who listens to Jesus FM is automatically considered by me a "mentally unstable individual" so I had no desire "upsetting" him first thing in the morning... 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Not even peanuts? Wow, that must be a new low!

Nope. Zilch. Nada.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Looks quite lovely. Very impressed by the catering, but I guess nothing less can be expected from a Japanese carrier. I wonder what UA would've served you? A microwave-quality chicken burger?

Well, last time I flew UA on a TATL, I did get a chewy microwavable pasta, so your guess may not be far off...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Why? When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Knowing that my wife would get the Japanese meal I decided to "take one for the team" by ordering the Western one, so that I could get photos of both meals.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
That's a bad behaving pair of cutlery.

I had to have some words with it afterwards.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Hmm, I don't think I've ever had Sapporo, not 100% sure though. Plenty of Asashi though.

I think you'd like it. It is available everywhere.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
I shudder to ask but how much money did you have to pony up for this? Looks like it cost at least two arms and half a leg? Unless you still managed to get an amazing bargain thanks to the Fukushima panic?

You'd be surprised. It was fairly affordable. In fact, given its location, service and views its was a bargain. It cost $87 a night and if you include all the extra taxes and fees it added up to just under $100 a night.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Hmm, I once woke up at six on a damp and cold January Sunday morning in Hamburg to take the U-Bahn to a fish market where the fish wasn't exactly the main attraction - rather the Germans chugging beer and Jägermeister at OMG o'clock (presumably came there straight from the nightclub on their way to the Sunday church...) and dancing to the tunes of a genuine German Schlager band! That was a genuinely surreal experience. But one I enjoyed quite a bit, thank you for asking.

Hehe, I'll keep that in mind in case I ever go there...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
It runs on water?!

Wouldn't that be just wonderful?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):

Oh my, what on earth that thing is supposed to be?! But yeah, your description seems to be quite appropriate!  

I think it is meant to be a "flame". But let's face it, it looks more like a turd. And apparently I am not the only one thinking so 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Hey, only 760 Yen for that? Sounds very nice, I think this goes on my TODO list!

Yeah, it is a good deal. The company runs a few other routes too if you are interested. You can find more info here: http://www.suijobus.co.jp/

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Ahh, excellent views of that amazing mass of humanity that is the biggest metropolitan area on this planet. Looks like the weather was also cooperating that day!

And the best part? Unlike Tokyo Tower and some other observatories, this one is free! You just walk up to the elevator and a few seconds later you're up there.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
That is indeed very bad, and to add insult to injury they merged with CO and thus destroyed the carrier that held on to serving meals in economy long after others had already given up!

I'm sad that I never got to fly CO... I had heard so many good things about them. Too bad they had to merge with UA...


Thanks again,

Widebodyroga



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User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 30, posted (2 years 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 9605 times:

Hey there Widebodyroga, many thanks for the excellent report and the many great pictures.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
1) A trip to the BeNeLux - N.France - W.Germany area. My wife traces her ancestry in that broader region and wanted us to visit the villages of her great-great-grandparents. 2) A trip to Japan, a lifelong dream of my wife's.

Good choice, a trip to Japan is always very satisfying and never disappointing. As their tourism slogan says.. Endless Discovery.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Getting to the Intl Terminal from T7 involves either walking the 1km distance or you wait for the infrequent little bus to take you there.

Walking is the best choice if your body is up to the task, going for the bus means stopping at T1, 2 and 3 before arriving at TBIT, walking is a -lot- faster and less frustrating.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
However they diplomatically avoided answering my questions about how UA had messed up, presumably not wanting to expose their colleagues. How professional.

NH staff are very professional ; ) I have had nothing but good experiences with them. Unfortunate that one cannot say the same about UA.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
You just use your own (already generous) leg space.

The legroom on the new 777s looks excellent. A big improvement I think, some seats on the old 777 were very tight, got a seat on an internationally configured 777 in the mini cabin behind Premium Economy, and wow, it was -tight-, much tighter than the domestically configured 767 I had flown a few days before. Good thing it was only ITM-NRT.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
To me it smells vaguely of seaweed (even though it does not contain any) and I could drink buckets of it, even though I'm not generally a big fan of tea.

Ha, I think the exact same thing, tastes somewhat fishy, but it reminds me more of the ocean. I really love the taste, perhaps because it reminds me so much of Japan and good memories, plus it gives you a nice caffeine buzz : )

The meals you got on NH look very good, seems like they've improved catering a bit lately.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
A much more northerly path than expected for this particular route

Well it's actually pretty usual to go up into Alaska while flying LAX-NRT, it's coming back where you usually ride the jetstream back to the west coast.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
No idea why. The guy who was examining my passport asked me what country it was from. When I told him, he looked confused and asked me what continent that country was in. I told him it's in Europe, to which he responded with a prolonged "ooooh" and a nod.

That happens sometimes, it's a good idea to always have your passport with you when in Japan, I've personally never had it happen but I've read about other foreigners being given a hard time if you don't have your passport with you.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The ride was meant to last anywhere between 80 and 100 minutes but due to the traffic and the slowness of our driver (even mopeds were overtaking us on the highway) it wasn't until 2:15 hours before we finally reached our hotel.

Yikes, that's a long time, if your hotel is close to the subway or train, sometimes it can be faster (and a lot cheaper) to take the train. Keisei is only about 1100 yen to Ueno.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):

Our 5 days in Tokyo were spent roaming around trying to see as many places as we could. Unfortunately the weather was not on our side as it was rainy for most part. To add insult to injury both my wife and I got sick (my wife suspects it was viral pneumonia) so we were fairly miserable. We felt very weak (thus unable to walk long distances as it is required in such trips), we were very sensitive to cold (and the weather was rather cold to begin with), and we had completely lost our appetite for food (thus negating one of the main purposes of the trip which was to eat as much good sushi as possible). What a bummer. Nonetheless, we pushed on and managed to cross out most of the items on our checklist of things-to-do and things-to-eat. We checked out the Imperial Palace exterior, visited the Asakusa area, took a boat ride down the Sumida river, saw the Tokyo Sky Tree, saw the harbor, visited Odaiba, Shinjuku, Shibuya and Harajuku, saw Tokyo from a couple of observatories and visited a number of parks. Not bad. The only thing that we wanted to do but failed to was to visit the famous Tsukiji fish market for a fresh fish breakfast. But let's face it, who wakes up at 4am to take the train in order to eat raw fish, when terribly sick and jet lagged? Well, we were genuinely willing to but we just physically couldn't...

Ahh yes, nothing puts a wrench into travel plans quite like getting sick, I'm impressed with how much you were able to see and eat even with the health handicap.

About Tsukiji, I've never been able to visit either, even when feeling healthy, something about the 4am wake up call seems unnatural !

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The next day I found out that the magnitude of the earthquake was just a meager 5.1 on the Richter scale, while the day before Hokkaido was hit by a 6.1 one.

Well, a 5.1 can probably feel strong depending on how close to the epicenter you are. Some of those aftershocks seem pretty strong. Last February I was about to go into an elevator when we had a pretty strong shake, the funny thing was, nobody cared !! I was like "Aren't you people going to run below a table or something?" nope, everyone was acting pretty much normal. I guess after the stronger shakes they've had, smaller ones seem less scary.

Thanks again for the many wonderful pics and for sharing your travels.

Ricardo


User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2199 posts, RR: 7
Reply 31, posted (2 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 9508 times:

Hi again Widebodyroga,

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
While waiting, a couple of security guards (policemen?) walked up to us and in a very friendly manner asked to see our passports. Each of them took out a notebook and wrote down the details of our documents. No idea why. The guy who was examining my passport asked me what country it was from. When I told him, he looked confused and asked me what continent that country was in. I told him it's in Europe, to which he responded with a prolonged "ooooh" and a nod.

I'm guessing you showed the Bulgarian passport, then? Reminds me of abrelosojos' stories about his Liechtenstein passport around the globe!

I think I was asked for my passport once in AMS, but luckily they knew where my passport was from and where Roemenie was.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
After we arrived at T7 of LAX we proceeded to a United counter in order to get our new boarding passes. After waiting for about 30 mins we managed to speak to an agent who informed us that she could not issue us the boarding passes and that we had to go to the International Terminal and get them from ANA. I wonder why we weren't told about this in the first place... The cards we were given explicitly said that we were gonna get the boarding passes from a UA counter. Now we were running dangerously out of time.

I see UA did nothing to get better in the past 12 years. They handed me my worst customer service experience at ORD in 2000. I vow not to fly UA again unless the ticket includes exclusively UA flights because, frankly, they seem to mix with other airlines like oil and water. In 2000, we had an OS ticket but we missed our flight and obviously there was no one at the OS check-in desks and UA wanted nothing to do with it... I think my mother just decided to go to another desk, after going twice from T5 to T1 and back...

Well, in the end, I want nothing to do with UA either  

I don't get it... NW/KL had an absolutely seamless partnership even in 1999, and UA... well, did not.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
No need to feel guilty for reclining with these seats. You just use your own (already generous) leg space. Ingenious! I have suffered enough from overenthusiastic over-recliners over the years. All of us have.

Hehe, yes, well, I almost never recline (it just doesn't help me sleep), but this is a good idea. I really like the 2-4-3 configuration, BTW. Something for everybody.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Our 5 days in Tokyo were spent roaming around trying to see as many places as we could. Unfortunately the weather was not on our side as it was rainy for most part. To add insult to injury both my wife and I got sick (my wife suspects it was viral pneumonia) so we were fairly miserable.

I'm terribly sorry you got sick... I also got sick on my spring trip, but luckily I was home, and not in a foreign country with many sights to see. Good to see you made the best of it under the conditions.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I do not recall much from our first night at the hotel. We were so exhausted that we just showered and crashed for some much-needed sleep. Our sleep however was short lived. At about 2am I woke up feeling someone shaking me. I opened my eyes and saw everything in the room moving back and forth. The bag I had left on the table was rocking so violently that it almost fell to the ground. I guess Tokyo wasted no time in welcoming us with a decent size earthquake. Even though I grew up in the Balkans where earthquakes are fairly common, this was by far the one I felt the most. Despite my fatigue I could not fall back asleep not so much out of fear but out of excitement... My wife however went back to sleep right away. The next day I found out that the magnitude of the earthquake was just a meager 5.1 on the Richter scale, while the day before Hokkaido was hit by a 6.1 one.

That's the last thing I'd want my first night in Japan! Not that I'm scared of earthquakes--I'd probably sleep right through--but I don't want to risk being woken up at 2 am... and having to go outside, if need be (is that common in Japan?).


Thanks for your write-up! Seems ANA is indeed ANAbelievable, and so is UA, but in the other sense of the word.


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 32, posted (2 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 9282 times:

Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
Hey there Widebodyroga, many thanks for the excellent report and the many great pictures.

Hey Ricardo, thanks for your kind words!

Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
Walking is the best choice if your body is up to the task, going for the bus means stopping at T1, 2 and 3 before arriving at TBIT, walking is a -lot- faster and less frustrating.

Yes indeed. If I ever find myself at LAX again I will just walk the distance without any second thoughts about the bus.


Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
The legroom on the new 777s looks excellent. A big improvement I think, some seats on the old 777 were very tight, got a seat on an internationally configured 777 in the mini cabin behind Premium Economy, and wow, it was -tight-, much tighter than the domestically configured 767 I had flown a few days before. Good thing it was only ITM-NRT.

I have been to 777s that had very tight legroom so I am very glad that we got to fly with ANA shortly after they changed their cabins to allow more leg room per seat.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
Ha, I think the exact same thing, tastes somewhat fishy, but it reminds me more of the ocean. I really love the taste, perhaps because it reminds me so much of Japan and good memories, plus it gives you a nice caffeine buzz : )

It's great isn't it? In fact I just came back from the grocery store where I found some "authentic" organic sancha green tea. I hope it tastes like the real thing in Japan.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
Yikes, that's a long time, if your hotel is close to the subway or train, sometimes it can be faster (and a lot cheaper) to take the train. Keisei is only about 1100 yen to Ueno.

Last time I was in Tokyo I got the Keisei to Ueno and then a Hibiya Line train to Asakusa where my hotel was situated. This time, however, our hotel would have required multiple metro line changes in order to be reached and given that we had big bags with us we thought it would be just easier to take the direct bus. The bus was slower and more expensive but at least it was less labor-intensive.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
Ahh yes, nothing puts a wrench into travel plans quite like getting sick, I'm impressed with how much you were able to see and eat even with the health handicap.
About Tsukiji, I've never been able to visit either, even when feeling healthy, something about the 4am wake up call seems unnatural !

Reading comments by other fellow a.netters who have been to Tokyo, it seems that not many make it to Tsukiji after all. It requires a brutally early wake up, even if you are jet-lagged.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
Well, a 5.1 can probably feel strong depending on how close to the epicenter you are. Some of those aftershocks seem pretty strong. Last February I was about to go into an elevator when we had a pretty strong shake, the funny thing was, nobody cared !! I was like "Aren't you people going to run below a table or something?" nope, everyone was acting pretty much normal. I guess after the stronger shakes they've had, smaller ones seem less scary.

It's amazing what people can get used to, whether that's rain, noise levels, high/low temperatures, humidity and apparently earthquakes too!

Quoting SR117 (Reply 30):
Thanks again for the many wonderful pics and for sharing your travels.

Thank you so much Ricardo!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 31):
I'm guessing you showed the Bulgarian passport, then? Reminds me of abrelosojos' stories about his Liechtenstein passport around the globe!
I think I was asked for my passport once in AMS,

Yup. I am big geography buff so sometimes I forget that not everyone is familiar with every country in the world (or at least its name) so I was a bit surprised by their question. I personally take no offense to this, but I know some compatriots of mine that totally would 
Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 31):
I see UA did nothing to get better in the past 12 years. They handed me my worst customer service experience at ORD in 2000. I vow not to fly UA again unless the ticket includes exclusively UA flights because, frankly, they seem to mix with other airlines like oil and water. In 2000, we had an OS ticket but we missed our flight and obviously there was no one at the OS check-in desks and UA wanted nothing to do with it... I think my mother just decided to go to another desk, after going twice from T5 to T1 and back...

Well, in the end, I want nothing to do with UA either  


That's exactly why I have placed them in my "axis of Evil". It takes great effort to be able to be so untrustworthy. I can only imagine the trouble you had to go through when you missed your OS flight. I have had similar experiences in the past with AZ and IB.



Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 31):
I'm terribly sorry you got sick... I also got sick on my spring trip, but luckily I was home, and not in a foreign country with many sights to see. Good to see you made the best of it under the conditions.

It sucks to get sick on your days off work and while on a trip. Unfortunately we got sick with the Flu on our honeymoon last summer too...

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 31):
That's the last thing I'd want my first night in Japan! Not that I'm scared of earthquakes--I'd probably sleep right through--but I don't want to risk being woken up at 2 am... and having to go outside, if need be (is that common in Japan?).

I think that a 5.1 earthquake in Tokyo is like a snowy January day in Montreal. No-one even cared as far I understood. No evacuations, no alarms, no nothing.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 31):
Thanks for your write-up! Seems ANA is indeed ANAbelievable, and so is UA, but in the other sense of the word.

Thank you very much. I appreciate your kind words.


WBodyroga



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User currently offlinesjacob From Uganda, joined Apr 2009, 42 posts, RR: 1
Reply 33, posted (2 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 9122 times:

Man, what a wonderful report...I loved it absolutely. I tbrought back so many sweet memories of my stay in Tokyo, Odaiba and all those places, Tokyo is one of the best cities in the world.   

User currently offlineairbusmango From Singapore, joined Apr 2012, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (2 years 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9024 times:

Your trip report makes me miss Japan even more! It's nice to see that we both went to or saw several places like Palette Town in Odaiba, Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building Observatory & Imperial Palace. I sure remember those swans! And of course, who can forget the infamous Japanese bidets in the hotels?  

We most certainly have got to return to Japan! But I shall try as much as possible not to fly in another NH 777-381 in 3-4-3..

Looking forward to another trip report from you, yeah!

Regards,
Hafiz

[Edited 2012-04-10 07:33:27]

User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 901 posts, RR: 3
Reply 35, posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8989 times:

Hi Stojan... I finally am able to start to catch up on reading TR's. Wow, what can I say. UA really put you all through the ringer. I was exhausted just reading about your ordeal. I agree that if you are in an alliance it should be a smooth process. I also agree that you all were best to choose a non-USA carrier. Can you imagine what you would have received on the Transpac flight of UA?   Those were absolutely beautiful pictures of Tokyo and surroundings. Yes I too have been shaken out of bed with an earthquake and you just feel kind of helpless! I must say though that for me you are very brave in trying some of those foods!   Now I need to read Part II. Cheers, Will


Landing on every Continent almost on an annual basis!
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 36, posted (2 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8906 times:

Quoting sjacob (Reply 33):
Man, what a wonderful report...I loved it absolutely. I tbrought back so many sweet memories of my stay in Tokyo, Odaiba and all those places, Tokyo is one of the best cities in the world.   

Thank you sjacob! I agree that Tokyo is unique in so many ways.

Quoting airbusmango (Reply 34):
Your trip report makes me miss Japan even more! It's nice to see that we both went to or saw several places like Palette Town in Odaiba, Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building Observatory & Imperial Palace. I sure remember those swans! And of course, who can forget the infamous Japanese bidets in the hotels?  

Thank you Hafiz! Indeed, it seems that we hit the same places. Not a surprise really, given that they were all "must sees". Did you ride the Palette Town?

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 35):
Hi Stojan... I finally am able to start to catch up on reading TR's. Wow, what can I say. UA really put you all through the ringer. I was exhausted just reading about your ordeal. I agree that if you are in an alliance it should be a smooth process. I also agree that you all were best to choose a non-USA carrier. Can you imagine what you would have received on the Transpac flight of UA?   Those were absolutely beautiful pictures of Tokyo and surroundings. Yes I too have been shaken out of bed with an earthquake and you just feel kind of helpless! I must say though that for me you are very brave in trying some of those foods!   Now I need to read Part II. Cheers, Will

Hey William! Nice to see you back after your vacation (any chance for a TR about it?). I hate to admit it but nowadays I'm avoiding all US carriers where possible. There was no way I was gonna book with UA for the TPAC segment. I'd rather stay home 

As for the foods, they were delicious. If other people can eat them then why not me? Nothing brave about it  

I hope you liked Part II too.

Thanks!

WideBodyroga



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 14
Reply 37, posted (2 years 5 days ago) and read 8743 times:

Hi there WBroga, fantastic report!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
(and by "long" I mean anything in excess of 3 consecutive days).

Seriously, what happened to the mandatory vacation weeks? Unless that's unheard of in the United States…

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
However, we couldn't find anything that wouldn't require us selling our house to pay for it.

Are you implying the fact that only C class tickets were available, or the tickets simply being unjustifiably expensive for Y?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
I found this the hard way when I booked some flights on LH's American website, paid in US$, yet I was charged almost $100 in "foreign transaction" fees. I wasn't gonna fall for that again.

Now that's really quite the scam these banks are pulling off, no wonder people hate them the way they do  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Erm...Okay...

Complete waste of paper! What's the point of those anyway? To fulfill some security regulation or what…

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Tight legroom, just a drink (no snack) for a 4-hour flight, United's service is as basic as one can imagine.

I really see what JetBlue meant by making flying more humane. These are clearly inhumane conditions! Did they at least offer any snacks for sale?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The hot dog place next to our gate had very carefully and thoughtfully adjusted their prices to acclimate the passengers flying to Japan to the prices of food at their destination. Two cold cut sandwiches and $25 later, we had finally satisfied our hunger.

Is this a joke or are you serious? Never have I ever believed that airport food could be that overpriced!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
No need to feel guilty for reclining with these seats. You just use your own (already generous) leg space. Ingenious!

Nice to hear you sharing my same opinion regarding those seats. A lot of people on this forum have criticized them for being bad and not offering enough space, and to be honest I'm suspecting those people may be the overenthusiastic recliner type  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Japanese Meal

Now that looks simply fantastic! Never have I believed an economy class meal could look that good. Wonder how the japanese meals on UA look like  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
At some point I went to the galley to grab some more of the rice/seaweed snacks and a glass of kabosu.

Did they also offer more of that ice cream in the galley?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The Limousine Bus company runs a number of routes from NRT

Transfer options from NRT are quite pricy IMHO. How much did you pay for the Limo Bus service?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The amazing view from our hotel room by day

Now that looks amazing! Thinking of might switching hotel for Tokyo. How much did you pay for that room?

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 38, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8589 times:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Hi there WBroga, fantastic report!

Hey Jonas. Thanks for your comments!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Seriously, what happened to the mandatory vacation weeks? Unless that's unheard of in the United States…

This is mainly the result of a combination of a brutal medical school regime and a demanding schedule at work (unrelated to our employers per se). Sure, in the US we don't get many days off work, but if you are working in Research things can be even more brutal. The amount of time you can get off work is often determined by what kind of experiments you are doing and for some projects you simply cannot be absent for more than a day or two at a time.

Still, I'll be able to get a week of vacations here and there but not at the same time with my wife, which is why I said that we won't be taking any vacations together for the next couple of years or so...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Are you implying the fact that only C class tickets were available, or the tickets simply being unjustifiably expensive for Y?

For some reason even tickets in Y were unreasonably expensive for the dates we were interested (and for routes that involved a long-enough layover at ICN).

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Now that's really quite the scam these banks are pulling off, no wonder people hate them the way they do  

Don't get me started on this one. I can write a book on the subject  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Complete waste of paper! What's the point of those anyway? To fulfill some security regulation or what…

No point whatsoever. We never used them for anything, not even to pass security. They were purely decorative (and of course mis-informative as I mentioned above)

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
I really see what JetBlue meant by making flying more humane. These are clearly inhumane conditions! Did they at least offer any snacks for sale?

I've been hearing so many good things about jetBlue, but I have yet to try them. Too bad they don't fly much out of ORD/MDW.

Yes, snacks were available for purchase on our UA flights.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Is this a joke or are you serious? Never have I ever believed that airport food could be that overpriced!

I have kept the itemized receipt as proof. No joke at all  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Nice to hear you sharing my same opinion regarding those seats. A lot of people on this forum have criticized them for being bad and not offering enough space, and to be honest I'm suspecting those people may be the overenthusiastic recliner type  

My thought exactly! Well said.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Now that looks simply fantastic! Never have I believed an economy class meal could look that good. Wonder how the japanese meals on UA look like  

I'm not even sure that UA offers a Japanese meal in Y for these routes... Maybe someone can tell us if they do or not. For one thing, I don't wanna find out myself. 
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Did they also offer more of that ice cream in the galley?

I didn't actively look for it (my mind was elsewhere) so I can't remember. It's quite likely though.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Transfer options from NRT are quite pricy IMHO. How much did you pay for the Limo Bus service?

Yeah, getting to and from NRT is annoyingly expensive and/or complicated, depending on where your hotel is. The Limousine Bus costs 3.000 one way. If you however buy a return ticket (6.000) they give you a 2-day unlimited rides pass for the subway (Tokyo Metro only, not the Toei lines or any other private lines).

More info here: http://www.limousinebus.co.jp/discou..._ticket/en/images/LIM_MET_p1_4.pdf

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Now that looks amazing! Thinking of might switching hotel for Tokyo. How much did you pay for that room?

In March they were charging $87 a night which ended up being $100 with taxes. No breakfast included in the price though. I booked directly through kayak.com

Thanks!

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User currently offlineairbusmango From Singapore, joined Apr 2012, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (2 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8535 times:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 36):
Thank you Hafiz! Indeed, it seems that we hit the same places. Not a surprise really, given that they were all "must sees". Did you ride the Palette Town?

Nah, I didn't. My main objective in going to Odaiba is to just see the Ferris Wheel and the Fuji TV Station! Besides, we didn't have that much time on our hands to explore Odaiba/Palette Town inside out because we had a Shinkansen joy ride to catch from Tokyo to Shinagawa.

Regards,
Hafiz


User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5014 posts, RR: 55
Reply 40, posted (2 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8329 times:

Thank you for a very entertaining trip report. I am a big fan of ANA and was not too surprised to see them perform well again. Few thoughts:

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
About a week prior to our flights, I checked our online reservation again to find out that my wife's seat selections had disappeared while mine had remained as is. I called UA several times but I had to give up each time after being put on hold for more than an hour (this was during the time UA was integrating its electronic system with that of CO, which resulted in confusion for many passengers who clogged the telephone lines for several days). Finally the fourth time I called (and after having waited for about 150 minutes) I got to talk to someone. The lady on the phone told me that in their system our seats reservations showed up normally and that I probably couldn't see them because of some glitch in the system. She didn't sound all that convincing but at least I knew that there was still a good chance that we'd get the seats we wanted.

= Let's put it this way ... as a lifetime 1K member (over 3 million miles on them), and GS for 4 years, I almost walked away from it all because of the sheer incompetency and arrogance with the way the merger was handled. I once waited 4 hours to get through because my next day itinerary had completely vanished from their RES system. Until today, I have not got a courtesy apology ... even, a generic email.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
The machines would not read our passports so we had to call one of the agents to help. One of the ladies did some hocus pocus on the machine, she tagged our luggage and provided us with our boarding passes to LAX. The machine also provided us with another couple of "this-is-not-a-boarding-pass" cards for the LAX-NRT segment which read:

= Star Alliance integration at their best ...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
What I loved about the new cabin however is the seat reclining mechanism. Instead of compromising the space of the person behind you, this reclining method uses you own leg space in order to recline your seat. Instead of your seat-back reclining backwards, this mechanism slides your bum forward, hence pulling the lower side of your seat-back forward and down. No need to feel guilty for reclining with these seats. You just use your own (already generous) leg space. Ingenious! I have suffered enough from overenthusiastic over-recliners over the years. All of us have.

= See, I am not a big fan of these seats. Are they like CX?

Quoting Widebodyroga (Thread starter):
Each of them took out a notebook and wrote down the details of our documents. No idea why. The guy who was examining my passport asked me what country it was from. When I told him, he looked confused and asked me what continent that country was in. I told him it's in Europe, to which he responded with a prolonged "ooooh" and a nod.

= Weird. I assumed it was a Balkan passport (later you confirmed) -- my Liechtenstein passport gets lots of random questions.

Thanks a lot again for sharing.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2199 posts, RR: 7
Reply 41, posted (2 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8311 times:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 37):
Seriously, what happened to the mandatory vacation weeks? Unless that's unheard of in the United States%u2026

Yeah, don't ask. They like to push us to the limit in the US  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 32):
Yup. I am big geography buff so sometimes I forget that not everyone is familiar with every country in the world (or at least its name) so I was a bit surprised by their question. I personally take no offense to this, but I know some compatriots of mine that totally would 

Yes, it's pretty much a similar view here, haha  

I generally don't take offense--but I would've been really surprised as well  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 32):
That's exactly why I have placed them in my "axis of Evil". It takes great effort to be able to be so untrustworthy. I can only imagine the trouble you had to go through when you missed your OS flight. I have had similar experiences in the past with AZ and IB.

Haven't heard many positives about IB either... AZ is simply too average for its own good. I haven't had trouble with missed connections. They were very proactive when my bag didn't make the connection in Rome... No problem when they cancelled my initial flight this spring, but I found that by myself...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 32):
I think that a 5.1 earthquake in Tokyo is like a snowy January day in Montreal. No-one even cared as far I understood. No evacuations, no alarms, no nothing.

Well, yeah, that's very true--I didn't mean a 5.1, but any earthquake that might cause panic, perhaps 1000 times stronger--a 7 or 8, say. I know Japan is well prepared but I love my sleep.


User currently offlineLucky727 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 602 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (2 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8290 times:

Thank you for a great report - very nicely written, and your photos are amazing. I've always wanted to visit Japan & this makes me want to go even more... btw, I'm jealous of your new cutlery 'acquisition' - I would've done the same to add to my collection!

Looking forward to Part II

Lucky727



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 43, posted (2 years 3 days ago) and read 8159 times:

Quoting airbusmango (Reply 39):
Nah, I didn't. My main objective in going to Odaiba is to just see the Ferris Wheel and the Fuji TV Station! Besides, we didn't have that much time on our hands to explore Odaiba/Palette Town inside out because we had a Shinkansen joy ride to catch from Tokyo to Shinagawa.

On clear days the views can be pretty nice from the Wheel. If you ever choose to ride it go for the colorful gondolas. The transparent ones don't offer all that much more in terms of views, they are more expensive and (because their numbers are limited) you often have to wait a long time for one to become available.


Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 40):

Thank you for a very entertaining trip report. I am a big fan of ANA and was not too surprised to see them perform well again.

Hey, A! I do recall you praising NH in the past so I knew you held them in high regard. I had very high expectations of them and for most part they lived up to them.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 40):
Let's put it this way ... as a lifetime 1K member (over 3 million miles on them), and GS for 4 years, I almost walked away from it all because of the sheer incompetency and arrogance with the way the merger was handled. I once waited 4 hours to get through because my next day itinerary had completely vanished from their RES system. Until today, I have not got a courtesy apology ... even, a generic email.

I don't think I need to add anything to this.... I just hope that people from UA are reading these trip reports. I wonder how aware they are of how bad a service they offer on practically every front.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 40):
= See, I am not a big fan of these seats. Are they like CX?

I think they are. But as discussed already above, these seats are like Marmite. You either love them, or you hate them.  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 40):
= Weird. I assumed it was a Balkan passport (later you confirmed) -- my Liechtenstein passport gets lots of random questions.

Well, a Liechtenstein passport is so rare (and the country so little known) that I wouldn't be surprised if a head of state didn't know about it. But for someone who works at an airport, I expect him/her to know the name of the country that claims to have invented modern yogurt, digital watches, the calculator, internet scams, wearing socks with sandals and so much more.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 41):
Haven't heard many positives about IB either... AZ is simply too average for its own good. I haven't had trouble with missed connections. They were very proactive when my bag didn't make the connection in Rome... No problem when they cancelled my initial flight this spring, but I found that by myself...

My experiences with AZ have been pretty painful so I'm biased   As for IB, I refused to even look at their aircraft after what I have suffered at their hands...

Here's a sample: The Barajas Purgatory. Iberia Being Iberia (by Widebodyroga Feb 11 2011 in Trip Reports)

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 42):

Thank you for a great report - very nicely written, and your photos are amazing. I've always wanted to visit Japan & this makes me want to go even more... btw, I'm jealous of your new cutlery 'acquisition' - I would've done the same to add to my collection!

Thanks Lucky727! In addition to the cutlery, I also acquired a personal blanket with ANA's logo. I normally "liberate" blankets from airlines that have annoyed me in some way (IB, AZ, DL) but this one was simply too cute to leave behind...

Quoting Lucky727 (Reply 42):
Looking forward to Part II

It's already out. I hope you enjoy it as much as the first part:

Chillin In Sapporo. Literally... (by Widebodyroga Apr 4 2012 in Trip Reports)



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User currently offlinegroobster From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days ago) and read 7781 times:

Wow wow wow! Amazing pictures, in fact some of them are near identical to ones taken by myself when I visited Tokyo back in January 2003. Particularly the one of the Rainbow Bridge on your route from the ferry - we did that ferry trip the other way around from Hibiya to Akasuka  

I'm going back to Tokyo this July so your report has put a big smile on my face.



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User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 45, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7589 times:

Quoting groobster (Reply 44):
Wow wow wow! Amazing pictures, in fact some of them are near identical to ones taken by myself when I visited Tokyo back in January 2003. Particularly the one of the Rainbow Bridge on your route from the ferry - we did that ferry trip the other way around from Hibiya to Akasuka  

Hey Groobster, thanks! It's too bad that it was cloudy/foggy on that day. I was hoping for a clearer look of the bridge from the river. At least we got to see it from up and close the next day.

Quoting groobster (Reply 44):
I'm going back to Tokyo this July so your report has put a big smile on my face.

Tokyo seems to be a very popular destination for a.netters this year! How can anyone blame us for wanting to go there all the time? I hope you have a great time.  

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User currently offlinestevenlee505 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7470 times:

Great trip report. I didn't check the dates and thought the earthquake you experienced was the one that devastated Japan back in March 2011.

User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 17
Reply 47, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7128 times:

Quoting stevenlee505 (Reply 46):

Great trip report. I didn't check the dates and thought the earthquake you experienced was the one that devastated Japan back in March 2011.

Thanks Steven,

I apologize for I now realize that my title was a bit misleading. I should have chosen my words more carefully. I should have written "A Quake" instead of "The Quake".

WBodyroga



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