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March 2012, FCO-JFK-ORD, Delta, 333/CR7  
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 12114 times:

Flights:
March 24th, AZ495, OTP-FCO, A319

March 25th, DL245, FCO-JFK, A330-300
March 25th, DL3021, JFK-ORD, CRJ-700

Background:

March 2012, OTP-FCO, Alitalia, A319 (by dc9northwest Mar 28 2012 in Trip Reports)

March 25th,
DL245, FCO-JFK, 333
N821NW (newest of DL's 21 A330-300s)
Scheduled: 12:55-16:45
Takeoff/Landing: 13:10-16:06

OK, now let's start where I had left off on my previous TR. After a stroll through Rome I returned to my guest house, checked-out and walked the few blocks separating me from Termini. Soon the (rather ugly IMO) Leonardo Express appeared. The train was quite crowded. No one checked my ticket although there certainly were ticket controllers walking throughout the train. Oh well, no problem, I still have it with me, even now.

Anyway, I took some pics of the train journey, and will post them on request, but if not, I'll keep going so I can finish this report rather quickly. We got to FCO on schedule; I walked across to Terminal 3 and, of course, this being a DL flight, I had to go to T5. Well, I'm not sure if I had to. Since I already had my boarding pass this step did not seem necessary to me, but I expected security would be quicker there than at T3, where I spent 45 minutes to get through security on previous occasions.

Thus, I took the shuttle to T5, only 2 passengers in it—good thing, I thought. It mustn't be too crowded, then. Luckily I was able to use quick SkyPriority lane and got through the questioning in 10 minutes and through security in a few more. Then I boarded the “T5 to G” bus and waited for a fair amount of time... with nothing to take pictures of. Once we got going, getting close to the G gates I suffered a small coughing fit, which generally I have to walk off. Once we got there, I did, and proceeded to the AZ lounge. I have no pictures, because 1) it was quite crowded and 2) the lighting wasn't the best I'd ever seen.

For those who haven't been in AZ's lounge in concourse G, here are a few things I noted:
1) good selection of drinks and some snacks
2) to get on the wi-fi they ask for a mobile number so they can send a password and a log-in code... this didn't work for me, but after 5 minutes the site showed my log-in and password anyway. I was wondering, do they ever send by text message?!
3) the lounge seemed to be prone for crowding, small corridors, no windows and no natural light.

The main advantage of lounges for me are free drinks (non-alcoholic—the last place I want to be drunk is at an airport) and, when possible, less crowding than in general areas—I'm really not much of a people person, really, and dislike large crowds.

Soon enough, it came time for me to go to my gate, G04 it was that day. I believe this is an A380 capable gate, according to the multiple signs in the boarding bridge. Anyway, the boarding process was quite uncivilized. The DL process was sort of followed, but not really. The announcements were inaudible and the queue was way too large even before I was at the gate (which was way too early, anyway). I was selected for additional screening, which meant 5 seconds of opening and closing zippers on my backpack! A woman next to me was also selected, but when she said “you have to help me get my backpack off” she was told “it's OK, go ahead and board”. Yeah, security is a theater. I'm getting more and more convinced. I don't feel any safer going through security now as opposed to the year 2000. Either OTP, FCO and JFK failed to detect the liquid I had with me (in a plastic bag, but inside my backpack) or they didn't care—can they tell the size of the container on their X-ray screen? Maybe it wasn't a liquid even though Nutella was a liquid the time it was confiscated from me (or was the screener just craving some hazelnutty goodness?). Anyway, that's security for you. No one is perfect at their job, so why should security screeners be? While I don't believe in many conspiracy theories (just the JFK assassination one), I do think that the Association of Beverage Sellers in Airports teamed up with legislators to come up with the liquid ban.

So, I boarded the very dark jet (all the shades were down, even though, surprisingly for some, the Sun did NOT appear on both sides of the aircraft at the same time) and found my seat, 11A. Obviously a window, and none of that double-excuse-me bull on 777s and 747s (It's only ok on a 2 hr flight).

Soon, I started taking pictures, the cabin gaining about 200% in brightness after I had opened the window shade—no cabin pics as you still could barely see anything!

Rossiya 767:


Alitalia A321:


A330-300 engine with something taking-off in the distance:


(The Fresh Prince of?) Belle Air A319, from TIA, I guess:


Even caught one of the few remaining MD-80s:


Gulf A320:


A nice cool visitor, Mint Airways 757:


AC 767 getting ready for a long journey:


We took a while to board, and then proceeded to runway 25 for take-off. We were no. 1 for departure and soon took to the skies. We overflew a small island in the Mediterranean Sea, then turning north towards Nice (with a nice overview of the airport), turning west over France, reaching the Atlantic some 100km north of Bordeaux, seeing the nice estuary of the Gironde on the way.

Meal pictures, A.net's favorite type of pictures:




This was our lunch for the day, salad with a tomato and some (good) cheese, and chicken with gorgonzola sauce and mamaliga (polenta for the non-Romanian speakers). This main course was one of the best Y meals I've had on a TATL flight, actually, contrasting completely with the health hazard I was served on ORD-CDG a few days earlier! Yes, well, things change, I suppose.


The snack was atrocious, though—how can they screw up pizza and ice cream is still something I can't figure out!





Sorry about the quality, I only had one window open since the person in 10A was still sleeping against the window we shared (mine, when she was not reclined).

Be safe, Delta:


The moving map:


I usually watch only the moving map on these sorts of flights... But DL's new moving map was horrible and I almost cried! This was the most you could zoom in on it, which means that it's completely useless. To see flight info, you had to switch to “Flight Data” on the bottom on the screen, meaning you had to use the silly little remotes they have—I wish they'd put them in the seat back somehow...

I'm not a big fan of how this industry changes things that need no changes. A traditional showing on the airshow never hurt anyone!

Anyway, I watched Robert Downey Jr's “Sherlock Holmes” and an episode from the current season of Fringe on DL's IFE. Not bad choices all things considered. I'd've preferred to see one of the episodes of Fringe involving an airplane but I don't think DL wanted to choose those for their IFE  

On descent:




Noo York:




What Manhattan used to look like: Swampy, swampy marshland:


We landed at JFK about 45 minutes ahead of schedule, but we took the long way around to T3, not that I minded, and we barely got to the gate on time, after holding a fair amount (15-20' for the SAA 346 to clear the taxiway we needed to use)

Take-off queue at JFK, including an Air Jamaica (Caribbean?--formerly known as BWIA):


Why JFK is a good airport, despite its shortcomings:







Well, JetBlue to you too:




The engine is wearing my shirt:


Euro visitors at AA's terminal (maybe it was not AA's terminal, don't really remember):




LAN from Chile (what's the local area network got to do with flying, anyway?   

Camera didn't like QR's 777-300ER:


Americans:


Some Chinese aircraft and an Austrian:

(I like the China Eastern aircraft, looks good)

Shitty picture of a nice-looking beast:


South African, another nice catch:


Nice catch (oh, wait, just Delta aircraft, not too rare):


The AF A380:
Not too rare either. We went counterclockwise, it went clockwise and we met up again in the middle!


DL 747 barely fitting at T3:


Yes, so we arrived at the gate, basically on time, but we still needed to wait for the tug to pull us in. There's no room for error here, there's barely enough room for a heavy at this gate (and most gates at JFK it seems like  )

As they weren't in a hurry, that was another 10 minutes. Anyway, I quickly stepped off the plane into the Minotaur's labyrinth. Oh, no, I meant JFK T3. Although it seemed pretty clear the designer was into greek legends—and I had forgotten my string to help me navigate this labyrinth. Anyway, there were very few people in the US Citizens line at T3 and soon I was processed into the country by a rather disinterested officer—he asked if there were any flights to Kansas City (my permanent address). I was going to Chicago for college; I said I'm not sure, but probably not as Kansas City isn't important enough. DL has been adding and dropping the flight to JFK for a few years, but I don't think any airline was currently flying to MCI. Soon he stamped my passport and continued chewing his gum.

The JFK T3 experience was not over; I went through security, but not before some women were just begging for me to stay in New York (they were just waving everyone to arrivals instead of connections—no thanks, the lines are longer there). Security went fast and I soon entered the Mall. No, wait, the labyrinth... I mean, T3. I keep slipping for some reason. The weather was cloudy, but I'm not sure that's the reason most of the light in T3 was hiding. Anyway, I trudged along to T2, whence my ORD flight would be leaving in a couple of hours. I went up the stairs to the DL SkyClub and checked-in. It was crowded in here as well, but there were still a few empty seats. The offerings were, again, snacks and drinks—I'm not sure where the soft drinks were hiding, so I grabbed a cup of some sort of coffee. There were some Biscoff cookies and chocolate chip cookies on offer, so I grabbed those. However, I wasn't very hungry.


March 25th
DL3021, JFK-ORD, CR7
N690CA, opb Comair
Scheduled: 19:05-21:08
Takeoff/Landing: 19:39-20:36

After about an hour or so, I went off to find my gate. Apparently a bunch of other people did so at the same time! T2 was much more luminous, a nice design, actually, but overcrowded (like that's not expected). Therefore, no pics from inside JFK.

Gate 25 was boarding flights to IAH, DFW and another destination that escapes me now. So there were some very nervous passengers going to Chicago around, one of which asked me whether I was going to Chicago. Is it that obvious?

Anyway, after DFW and IAH boarded, it was our turn. I made my way through the massive amounts of sheer people there and finally got to the boarding door. Beep beep beep. “Here you go sir, you have seat 1A”. “Thank you very much”. As I hoped, not much business traffic from JFK on a Sunday night to ORD. The load in F would turn out to be 8/9, while Y was pretty full, but not 100% full, although I was too tired to count.

We boarded but still had to wait for catering (this means—I'd get another meal on a domestic flight   )

Boarding process—the weather had gotten much nicer:












Yes, I like this sort of picture, as well. Almost tripped and fell while taking the pic, but I have good balance:


From inside, waiting for the catering truck:


Decent legroom:


The nice boarding gate at JFK T2:






Catering... yeeeah:




Ready to go; waiting for clearance to taxi out to the active runway, I guess. Beautiful colors:




The distinctive nose of a 757:


We were #3 for departure, IIRC, which is not too bad for New York's JFK. We lifted off, proceeded to fly a bit east over Long Island, turning north, and then northwest. Here's the CT coastline:




Afterwards we continued flying northwest, flying north of Cleveland, over Canada, then a bit north of Detroit, over central Michigan, crossing lake Michigan and approaching ORD out of east-northeast. That's a bit later, though.

Meal: a chicken sandwich. I couldn't quite hear or tell what the sauce was—either some curry sauce or some honey mustard sauce. Unfortunately this was no match for Delta's culinary delight offered on my previous flight on which I received a meal, detailed here: MCI-OTP: Three Upgrades And A380 Flight Deck Visit (by dc9northwest Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)

Speaking of which... the CR7 was quite loud up front. The air currents over the fuselage were definitely making a noisy appearance. Definitely louder than most other flights I've taken, even though the engines were very far away.



Ruffles, green apple, grapes, a slice of pineapple, a cookie and the aforementioned chicken sandwich. One other option tonight was a salmon salad, I believe. I'm not sure what they would offer to vegetarians (especially upgrades, but I guess that's not really their concern—still would be nice to find out). Maybe there was a third choice but I kind of doubt it. Nice presentation, though. The sandwich gets a thumbs up, but the fruit were not as crunchy as I would have liked. Real cutlery and real glass. Yes, that's the way. Service was good throughout the flight—but then again I don't really expect that much these days.

There might not be a thing such as a free lunch, but there certainly seems to be at least one free dinner.

I moved to 3A, since it remained empty (baffling, really—did someone miss their flight?), so here's one more legroom pic:


Cabin view, with minimal lighting:


A nighttime view of Detroit, surprisingly sharp for such a cheap camera:


We descended towards ORD, and proceeded to fly past it for a runway 10 arrival. A few minutes later we did a 180 degree turn and continued our descent. We arrived roughly 25 minutes early. After waiting a few minutes for some ramp agents to guide our CR7 to the gate, we finally disembarked quickly at E14 and I proceeded to take the Blue Line and the no. 6 bus to my place of residence.

Let's grade the flights:

DL245:
Check-in: 8
Online check-in worked fine; aside from the ridiculous T5 at FCO (I just don't see the point), everything worked out fine. I guess T5 saved me a few minutes on security though.
Boarding: 4
Very disorganized, actually. I was disappointed with how DL handles the boarding out of FCO. Announcements simply inaudible.
Seat: 7
Economy comfort was fine, above average for economy. Because of the reservation screw-up by Alitalia, and rebooking into B class from L, I think, means I got the E+ seat for free—DL promptly, without even asking, returned the $40 fee I'd paid before this rebooking event.
Ambience: 7
Above average for a TATL flight—I think the dark made everything more intimate. No joining the Mile High Club though. Not that sort of intimate.
IFE/Announcements: 6
The moving map was disappointing. The selection of movies and TV shows very good. The responsiveness of the unit.... poor, as usual. Therefore average overall.
Crew: 6
Not the best crew I've ever had, and certainly less friendly than domestic crews IMO.
Food/Beverage: 8
I liked the chicken gorgonzola. That's enough to get an 8 these days...
On-Time: 10
I'll give it to them, on-time, basically, upon arrival at gate at JFK. The schedule padding at JFK may be ridiculous but it's paying off
Disembark: 6
Although it was an advantage for me, not allowing BusinessElite pax to disembark first seems unusual.
Lounge (FCO): 6
I found AZ's lounge to be worse than both KL's at AMS non-Schengen and AF's at CDG 2F. It just doesn't have a good vibe to it. I explained some of my reasons above.

Overall: 6.80 (Long-Haul Economy)

DL 3021:
Check-in: 8 (same as DL245)
Online check-in worked fine; aside from the ridiculous T5 at FCO (I just don't see the point), everything worked out fine. I guess T5 saved me a few minutes on security though.
Boarding: 6
OK given the conditions. Boarding 4 flights out of the same gate screams for problems, but everything seemed to work smoothly. Of course, the madness at the gate certainly does detract from the score.
Seat: 6
Average seat; decent legroom.
Ambience: 7
Again, a dark flight. DL likes the darkness, I guess.
IFE/Announcements: 5
No IFE (of course, on a CR7), some announcements from the flight deck, but not very detailed. Delta's in-flight magazine is suitable for a flight of this length.
Crew: 8
Good crew. Service went smoothly. Nothing went wrong. Again, I don't expect much nowadays. Certainly better than the TATL crew.
Food/beverage: 8
Meal was good, albeit not the best I've ever had.
On-Time: 10
Perfectly on-time departure, early arrival.
Disembark: 8
Quickly disembarked. No real issues.
Lounge (JFK T2): 7.5
Decent lounge, seemed kinda crowded in my area, though. Couldn't find soft drinks (didn't check at the bar as there was a queue).
Overall: 7.35 (Short-Haul Premium)

Comments, Questions, Concerns and Corrections welcome and appreciated! Thanks for reading.

Previous TRs:
March 2012, OTP-FCO, Alitalia, A319 (by dc9northwest Mar 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
MCI-OTP: Three Upgrades And A380 Flight Deck Visit (by dc9northwest Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)
The Baltic States In 6 Easy Flights (by dc9northwest Dec 26 2010 in Trip Reports)
Romanian TR: Bucuresti-Suceava Via Timisoara (by dc9northwest Dec 24 2010 in Trip Reports)
Connecting In ATL, Right Before The Snowstorm (by dc9northwest Mar 1 2010 in Trip Reports)
MCI-ATL-AMS-OTP With DL And KL (60+pics And Vids) (by Dc9northwest Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)

15 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1937 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 12031 times:
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Great report, dc9northwest!

Looks like you had some good flights with DL on your return. I've been to FCO; I remember it being a rather dark airport inside with not many windows; maybe it was just where our gate was? We were flying TWA back to JFK on a 767; I think it was back in June of 1997? A long time ago ... I do remember the security to be very tight, however.

DL looks to have improved their TATL Economy meals, and they look pretty stylish on the new tray! Good job, DL. How nice also to get an upgrade on the CRJ from JFK-ORD; the meal doesn't look too bad for a flight of that length, especially on a RJ.

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew


User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11698 times:

Nice report. Are you sure thats a CR7 though? Looks a lot like a CRJ9


RUSH
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11560 times:

Quoting JHCRJ700 (Reply 2):
Nice report. Are you sure thats a CR7 though? Looks a lot like a CRJ9

Hi there, and thanks for reading. Yep, my flight was on a CR7; you can tell if you look at the picture focused on the tail, there's only one overwing exit on that side. We were parked next to a CRJ900, though, and I got a couple of pictures of that machine as well; maybe you're referring to those  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 1):
Great report, dc9northwest!

Thanks, Matthew! I appreciate your comments  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 1):
Looks like you had some good flights with DL on your return. I've been to FCO; I remember it being a rather dark airport inside with not many windows; maybe it was just where our gate was? We were flying TWA back to JFK on a 767; I think it was back in June of 1997? A long time ago ... I do remember the security to be very tight, however.

I'm not sure where you departed, or even if the G gates existed in 1997... I wouldn't say that concourse is particularly dark; just the lounge struck me as not having enough light. FCO is a decent airport but it still has a way to go before I'll say it's good. If I have to pass through the non-Schengen security lines land-side, it's quite bad. In fact... I even saw long lines at the non-EU/EEA passport control in T3 arrivals.

FCO security is abysmal IME.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 1):
DL looks to have improved their TATL Economy meals, and they look pretty stylish on the new tray! Good job, DL. How nice also to get an upgrade on the CRJ from JFK-ORD; the meal doesn't look too bad for a flight of that length, especially on a RJ.

Yes, quite stylish trays for Y, have to agree. The Rome catering was excellent--I'm pretty sure it was local catering. I mean, gorgonzola, polenta are rare in the States. I've had the opposite experience on my Chicago-Paris flight, unfortunately. Chicken was disappointing and rice inedible.

The meal on the RJ flight was perfectly adequate. It was, after all, a free dinner, so I can't complain

Thanks again for stopping by!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6808 posts, RR: 77
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 11439 times:

Another nice report, Alex!

How was the legroom on the A330? I had window seats on both the NWA A332 and A333 and always disliked the huge IFE boxes. I'm wondering if DL kept, replaced or changed the position of the boxes.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinenicktt From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10968 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Euro visitors at AA's terminal (maybe it was not AA's terminal, don't really remember):

That's terminal 7 you're looking at. It's owned and operated by BA, but of course used by OW carriers as well. I believe US, UA and NH also use it.

I also understand that it is still the only terminal in the world operated by a foreign carrier.


User currently offlinelychemsa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1201 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10290 times:

It seems that Delta make an effort to at least give you a decent "main entree." However the lettuce for a starter and the tiny cookie for desert like on all US airlines does not impress me.

At least DL food is better than AA, UA and CO. Seems better than US Air too. The US airlines limit what they spend on meals to a bare minimum. DL seems to make a"Tiny" effort to make it somewhat border line edible.


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10101 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 4):
Another nice report, Alex!

How was the legroom on the A330? I had window seats on both the NWA A332 and A333 and always disliked the huge IFE boxes. I'm wondering if DL kept, replaced or changed the position of the boxes.

Hi PlaneHunter! Thanks for reading.

Regarding the IFE boxes, I don't remember exactly where they were located when the A330s were NWA aircraft. However, on DL245, they weren't visible to me. However, the baggage space underneath the seat in front seemed to be restricted in depth. Thinking back, that where the IFE boxes might be--I didn't actually check.

The legroom was fine considering I was seated in the Economy Comfort zone.



Quoting nicktt (Reply 5):
That's terminal 7 you're looking at. It's owned and operated by BA, but of course used by OW carriers as well. I believe US, UA and NH also use it.

I also understand that it is still the only terminal in the world operated by a foreign carrier.

Hi Nicktt,

I see, thanks very much for the details--at first I thought it was AA's terminal, but looking at the order of the pics, that seemed impossible. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Interesting, the only terminal operated by a foreign carrier. Good to know.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 6):
It seems that Delta make an effort to at least give you a decent "main entree." However the lettuce for a starter and the tiny cookie for desert like on all US airlines does not impress me.

At least DL food is better than AA, UA and CO. Seems better than US Air too. The US airlines limit what they spend on meals to a bare minimum. DL seems to make a"Tiny" effort to make it somewhat border line edible.

Thanks for reading!

Yes, I can't say US airlines' meals impress me, generally speaking. That's why DL's did impress me, I guess.


Comments always appreciated.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9351 times:

Hi

Nice return report? I flew DL quite a bit between 2003 and 2007. I must say things have improved and certainly looks better than competitors such as UA and US. Impressed by the meal on the JFK-ORD leg as well.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9045 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 8):
Hi

Nice return report? I flew DL quite a bit between 2003 and 2007. I must say things have improved and certainly looks better than competitors such as UA and US. Impressed by the meal on the JFK-ORD leg as well.

Hello again, Marc!

Delta's been my airline of choice in the US between 2000-2004/5 and ever since they took over NWA. I have to say, their customer service is the best I've encountered in the States. However, around 03-04, I was delayed quite often via ATL.

I can't speak for TATL service but I've had hassles with UA/US in 1999/2000 and wasn't keen to fly them a lot afterwards (though I did a couple of times each--UA was fine, US was not).


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 650 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8523 times:

Great report! I would love to see your report on the ORD-FCO portion of your trip.

User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8399 times:

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 10):
Great report! I would love to see your report on the ORD-FCO portion of your trip.

Thank you, TWA1985!

Hopefully you'll see the report in mid-June (depending on how fast I can upload it); I'll be flying JetBlue to JFK, then Delta to FCO.


User currently offlineTWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 650 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8046 times:

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):

Hopefully you'll see the report in mid-June (depending on how fast I can upload it); I'll be flying JetBlue to JFK, then Delta to FCO.

I can't wait for your report in June! However, my brain must have failed me yesterday since I was actually looking for the report from the ORD-CDG flight you took recently. The fact that the meal was sub-par made me curious.

Thanks!


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7833 times:

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 12):
I can't wait for your report in June! However, my brain must have failed me yesterday since I was actually looking for the report from the ORD-CDG flight you took recently. The fact that the meal was sub-par made me curious.

Thanks!

Hmmm, well I haven't yet written a report on that ORD-CDG flight (I wanted to do ORD-CDG-OTP but got an aisle seat for CDG-OTP and CDG isn't too friendly for picture taking, time constraints notwithstanding). However, check back in a few days and perhaps you will see it here--I'll do my best. I do have a number of pics from that segment so maybe it would be worthwhile to write up a report, although it's probably going to be a bit shorter than this one  


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7077 times:

Hello Alex,

Very nice report! I had a lot of fun reading it. Thanks a lot for sharing your pics and for taking the time to write the report.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
This main course was one of the best Y meals I've had on a TATL flight

It does look very nice. Decent meals in Y are not easy to come by.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
But DL's new moving map was horrible and I almost cried! This was the most you could zoom in on it, which means that it's completely useless. To see flight info, you had to switch to “Flight Data” on the bottom on the screen, meaning you had to use the silly little remotes they have—I wish they'd put them in the seat back somehow...

Interesting. Is this because of the type of IFE system installed in the NW A330s? My last long haul flights on PTV-equipped DL widebodies have been on 77Ls and the moving map seems to be different from the one in your picture, with flight info (altitude, ground speed, time, etc.) alternating between different views of the map and no ability to zoom in or out.

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
Euro visitors at AA's terminal (maybe it was not AA's terminal, don't really remember):

Hmmm, I am no expert on T7 and T8 at JFK, but any chance that was T7?

Quoting dc9northwest (Thread starter):
the no. 6 bus to my place of residence.

Oh cool! I take it you live in Hyde Park. I used to take the no. 6 bus all the time when I lived in Hyde Park and was going to school at the UofC. It used to be called the Jeffery Express back then though.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2293 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7049 times:

Hi Eddie!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 14):
Very nice report! I had a lot of fun reading it. Thanks a lot for sharing your pics and for taking the time to write the report.

It's my pleasure. I have to thank you for taking the time to read it!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 14):
Interesting. Is this because of the type of IFE system installed in the NW A330s? My last long haul flights on PTV-equipped DL widebodies have been on 77Ls and the moving map seems to be different from the one in your picture, with flight info (altitude, ground speed, time, etc.) alternating between different views of the map and no ability to zoom in or out.

Yes, the A330s seem to have received a new IFE system in the past 3 years or so, since I'd previously flown on one... NW's IFE had an absolutely brilliant moving map, with very good zooming in capability, and they showed a fair number of airports on the map... I spent hours playing with that IFE system a few years back!

I prefer the one described above, but the regular one is fine. DL's new one was certainly disappointing in my opinion  
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 14):
Hmmm, I am no expert on T7 and T8 at JFK, but any chance that was T7?

Yes, it certainly seems that is T7!

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 14):
Oh cool! I take it you live in Hyde Park. I used to take the no. 6 bus all the time when I lived in Hyde Park and was going to school at the UofC. It used to be called the Jeffery Express back then though.

Haha. I do indeed live in Hyde Park, and currently go to UofC! Good to see more people with connection to this place on A.net  I've already found a couple more just this year, since I increased my activity here  

Thanks a lot for reading (and commenting on) the TR!


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