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Mother Fokker! And The A.net Meet (pics)  
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11268 times:

Hello and welcome to this special report covering the Arlanda a.net meet from my point of view.



Background





A long long time ago, back in the year of 2011 a group of people known as the trip reporters of airliners.net gathered their bright minds and began laying the foundations for a little something we call a ”meet”. Following the success of the previous meet held in Frankfurt that very same year, the group of trip reporters drew their attention towards the north, this time.

Being the gateway from continental Europe to the arctic north, Arlanda offers some spectacular traffic including an array of regional carriers operating all kinds of exotic types few people even knew existed, a wet dream indeed for any well dedicated aviation enthusiast which is why Arlanda was chosen as the location for the meet.

Flying all the way to the arctic Sweden on a mundane 737 or Airbus, only to socialise with the faces behind the usernames was not enough for one certain a.netter. Trip reports legend, fedora spokesman, subculture icon, fellow author and friend P, also known as FlyingFinn76 (or more commonly FlyingFinn, since some bastard already stole that name before him), or PetteriFinn as I refer to call him, had another trick up his sleeve. He suggested that we as the esteemed men of the trip reporter’s society would embark on a little side-trip to Tallinn, and as a treat a one hour hop on the Saab 340 was thrown in to sweeten the deal, supposedly as a way for our European friends to take part of the Arlanda magic.

Tickets on the Estonian Saab sold for €59, which to me is a ripoff considering the flight is only one hours long. However at the very same time the very same Finn informed me about the Air Baltic Cherry Tuesday sale, where tickets to Tallinn via Riga could be found for as low as €59 rt for all 4 legs. To me this was a no-brainer, and the tickets were booked in an instance. With pride, I later on announced my presence at the meet’s Facebook page, before running off for school.





January 14th 2012
– The Big Meet at Arlanda





The weekend we had all been waiting for had finally come. Following my über climax trip on SWISS to Shanghai, a spontaneous getaway to Visby, an unsuccessful ”lounge&studies” trip to Gothenburg, and a failed accounting exam, I woke up feeling strangely relaxed after a good night’s sleep. Something highly unusual the night prior to traveling on an aeroplane, I gently got up from my bed at 7.30am. With all the morning formalities done, I picked up my trustworthy camera backpack and headed out for the train station to catch the 8.14am train to Arlanda Airport via Sala.

Following the swift connection in Sala, I was onboard the SJ InterCity train headed for Arlanda. For a saturday morning departure, the train was fairly crowded. Having pre-ordered a breakfast baggie for the reasonable cost of €2,30, I made my way over to the Bistro car to pick it up.




The standard SJ pre-order breakfast baggie.



The breakfast baggie consisted of the standard items, a wholegrain sandwich with cucumber, Wästgöta cheese, and red bell peppers. A tub of Finnish Valio yoghurt, a bottle of artificial off-brand orange juice, and an apple. Coffee was provided as well. While the taste was seemingly mediocre, the contents were filling and provided me with some well needed energy for the day. Shortly after finishing my bag of Scandinavian breakfast delights, the train pulled in at the Arlanda SkyCity railway station bang on time at 9.53am.

I quickly made my way up the escalators and into bright and airy halls of SkyCity. While wandering around like a duckling lost from its pack, I turned my head up towards the lounge chair floor where I noticed a distinct shape of a fedora, indicating that the party was indeed in full swing. After making my way up the spiral staircase, I was instantly greeted welcome by Eric who at glance appeared to have gotten quite in good shape and lost a few years of age since the last time I saw him. Following that I quickly met up with the rest, and conducted the expected greet and meet.

Following some chit-chatting while awaiting for the rest to show up, the group later on split in half. One half headed out in the cold for the guided tour of the Caravelle, parked somewhere far away in the vicinity of the SAS Maintenance Hangar, while the rest remained inside. I as expected chose not to expose myself to the arctic cold, and remained inside. Soon Eric suggested that we all should head off for some early lunch at his favourite pizza joint, Sbarro.

Having just eaten breakfast on the train, I was not in the mood for splurging out some of my well needed cash on some overpriced airport pizza. So with a little bit of my boyish charm, I managed to come over some garlic bread courtesy of the house. As we gathered up around the rectangular table, resembling a medieval feast we were later joined by our two British friends Palmjet and Lee, who after a very expensive beer in London arrived in Stockholm one day late. Mark and Brewox, who apparently were on the same flight came to join us as well. Following the words ”It’s beer o’clock isn’t it?” from Mark, came a steady stream of Falcon Lager. I on the other hand settled for a café latte, and thanks to my boyish charm I was served a large one, despite paying for the smallest one.

My thriftiness experienced by my fellow reporters in real life, along with my controversial terminology of faux crapola came to be a major topic during the meet. Of course, the only thing at my expense were the jokes which quite frankly I could live with (as long as not having to splurge on overpriced airport stuff). We later continued to the restaurant above the departures floor at T5, where more beer was consumed. And time surely flies when you’re having fun, as it was soon time for Petteri, Eric and the rest of the gang to catch their cherished Saab to Tallinn. Since my notorious Fokker, aka Baltic Phoenix was departing one hour later, I stayed at the restaurant for a little while longer with Marc, Lee and Palmjet (who would be spending the evening in Stockholm) + Mark and Brewox (Who would soon be off back to London).

The time was spent gossiping and catching up, only to be interrupted by the historic blue little Saab, carrying a record breaking amount of trip reporters. With drizzling jaws we watched the plane taxi by, and take off before re-engaging into our conversations. Mark and Brewox later on bid us goodbye as it was time for them to catch the London flight on BA, and soon it was time for me also to hop on the Fokker to Riga. I bid the men goodbye, wishing them a pleasant evening in Stockholm, before heading off to security.




The departures hall at ARN T5.



Check-In at Arlanda



Having already picked up my boarding passes from the manual check-in counter, I headed off towards the security area located at the far end of the SAS concourse. The screening process was seemingly slow due to a pair of holiday makers carrying an excessive amount of gizmos in their hand luggage. I seriously don’t see a point for bringing a plethora of Apple products when going away for a week in the sun. Fine the iPhone is can be brought for some sweet tunes on the plane, but do you also have to bring the Macbook and two both your iPads? Nevertheless it’s none of my business, and they were kind enough to let me pass ahead while re-arranging their items. The screening was passed in a jiffy, and soon I was released into the vastness of the T5 taxfree shopping mall.


Airside at Arlanda



With some 25 minutes to kill prior to my flight boarding, I was planning to spend them wandering around the shops since. However as I passed Café Ritazza I noticed them offering a cup of Espresso for the very reasonable price of 10 SEK. So with no further ado, the place got to act as a stand-in lounge for me, that afternoon




Comfy seaters and a calm environment at Café Ritazza.





My tasty cup of espresso.



The espresso tasted nice and strong, as proper espresso should. And after zipping it for a prolonged while, the time for boarding had finally come. I gathered up my stuff and headed towards Gate 4, where my flight was leaving from.



BT103 Stockholm ARN – Riga RIX



Flight: BT103 ARN-RIX

Departure: 15.45

Arrival: 18.00

Duration: 1h 15m

Date: January 14th 2012

Seat & Class: 2A Economy Class

Aircraft & Reg: Fokker 50 YL-BAR





View of the gate area.



The gate area was strangely empty, which isn’t really surprising considering the poor financial state of the airline. Very soon boarding was called over the speakers, and after having had our BP’s promptly scanned by the grumpy agent, we were led down a staircase taking us to the apron.




The famous Air Baltic Fokker!





Boarding the plane.



At the door, I was met by a seemingly scrumptious flight attendant asking me whether I took a picture of her. After assuring her that I was only photographing the plane, she welcomed me onboard. She was the sole cabin crew member of this flight which made sense, since barely half of the seats were taken. I quickly made my way to my seat on the A side of the 2nd row. Stowing the backpack in the overhead turned out to be a bit of a challenge due to the small size of the bins. In the end I managed to fit it in the bin, and the Doc Martens were thrown up there as well.



.
Legroom shot.



The cabin was fitted with blue fabric seats, looking very to the ones found on SAS. I’m guessing the colour scheme must’ve been a leftover from the days when SAS owned their stake in Air Baltic. The seats however were very uncomfortable, the lumbar support was f*cked up and the cushion was worn to the extent of needing replacement, which resulted in some numb buttocks midway through the flight. Legroom was acceptable, although not compensating for the poor ergonomics of the seat. To make matters worse, the windows had a very low placing resulting in some neck pain while trying to take pictures. The cabin smell was not a big issue however, but still the Fokker was by far the most uncomfortable airplane I have ever flown.

Soon the door was closed, propellers fired up and pushback began. A quick taxi to runway 19L/01R soon followed, before slowly propping our way up in the sky.




Taxiing to the runway.





Breaking through the clouds after takeoff.



Climb out was very slow, but eventually we reached altitude after some 20 minutes. Apart from the horribly uncomfortable seats, undersized overhead compartments, windows placed for midgets, and low cabin ceiling, the Fokker was also inhumanely noisy. Normally I don’t bother much about the cabin noise, even these days when I no longer have my Bose QuietComfort headphones, but this time it simply felt excruciating.

Soon the sole flight attendant rolled out the trolley, and conducted the Buy On Board service. At the time I started to feel a bit hungry, so I decided to try something from the menu. The offerings were rather poor, and the menu combos were simply horrible. Prices mediocre, but overall the items appeared to be of very low quality. I settled for the most reasonable menu combo I could find, which was the Soup&Croissant costing me a nifty €5. My worn out VISA card was swiped, before the items were promptly placed on my tray table.




The BOB snack, purchased for this flight.



The Croissant was a filled with ham and cheese. It tasted rather dry, and the fillings seemed very artificial. Apart from that it was very unsubstantial and not filling at all + it crumbled like h*ll leaving a huge mess on my pants and floor. Vegetable soup was also disappointment, basically your usual Knorr cooking stock mixed with hot water and served in a styrofoam cup. Soup was mostly watery, until finishing it when I discovered there was a big lump of unmixed powder in the bottom.

I would recall the €5 for this combo as a complete ripoff however, due to the airline’s dire financial straits providing them with some additional cash flow was the least thing I could do, considering the fact that my ticket was already shamelessly cheap. Following the snack, I took my usual walk down the cabin.




View of the cramped cabin on this Fokker.





Lavatorial view. Those toiletries were bought from a supermarket!



Upon returning to my seat, the propellers had already revved down indicating that descent was in progress. Minutes later, the Fokker plunged into the thick layer of clouds while at the same time being thrown to the sides by the strong turbulence. Soon land became visible from down below, and the plane made a smooth touchdown. After a quick taxi, the plane parked on a remote stand where a bus would later take us on the 50 meter drive to the terminal.


The Riga Transit




My first impressions of Riga Airport were very positive. The terminal was nice, bright (during daytime i.e) and airy, it offered some comfortable seating and a good selection of food outlets. The terminal architecture reminded a lot of Gardemoen Airport, and overall RIX felt like a miniaturised version of it. Still feeling a bit hungry, I went over to one of the cafés and purchased a greasy salmon wrap for €2,50. Not a bad price at all considering it was an airport + the generous size of the wrap. I was left rather stuffed after finishing it. The one hour layover passed in a blur, and it was soon time for me to catch my Tallinn flight.




Terminal overview at Riga Airport.




BT363 Riga RIX – Tallinn TLL



Flight: BT363 RIX-TLL

Departure: 19.35

Arrival: 20.30

Duration: 0h 55m

Date: January 14th 2012

Seat & Class: 21F Economy Class

Aircraft & Reg: Boeing 737-500 YL-BBE



The gate area was fairly empty, just like on the previous flight, and due to a last minute aircraft change (which Air Baltic are famous for) the boarding was delayed a few minutes. The scheduled B733 had been replaced by a B735, which was quite good for me since I hate the B733 (and B734 for that matter, and don’t ask me why!). As my boarding pass was scanned by the agent, I received the infamous red light. I was hoping for an upgrade, but sadly it turned out to just be a seat change. My pre-selected seat 16A had been switched to 21F due to the equipment change. I thanked the agent and headed down the jetway.




Boarding the B735.



At the door, I received a ”hello” from the crew as I made my way down the cabin to row 21.




View of the cabin during boarding.



All Air Baltic B737’s are fitted with the new’ish slimline Recaro seats. Comfort was by far superior compared to the Fokker 50. As the flight was only a quarter full, I got the entire row to myself. Backpack and docs went up in the overhead as usual.




Legroom shot.



Seat pitch was the standard 32” which is more than enough for my 6ft and skinny’ish build. I could easily manage a 5+ hour flight in these seats. Soon the doors were closed, and the plane pushed back. Towards the end of the pushback, the CFM56 power plants were up and running and the aircraft began its taxi towards the runway. A powerful takeoff was later conducted, and we quickly rocketed up towards cruising altitude.

I chose not to take any pictures during this flight, mainly due to the dark and the fact that I was very tired. I spent the whole flight listening to music on my iPhone while getting some shuteye. I was woken up by one of the flight attendants during descent, telling me to turn off the music and put the seat upright. A very rough landing was later made, before taxiing to the terminal and docking to the gate. I was curbside in minutes, and soon on the bus into the city to join the rest of the party.



The Evening In Tallinn




After having missed the bus stop in the city centre, the bus dropped me off at the ferry terminal. Luckily my hotel was right next to the bus stop, so I decided to simply dump my stuff at the room before heading back into town. PetteriFinn informed me about a restaurant in the old town, where the rest of the gang were already enjoying their dinner. I was too lazy and tired to try and find the place myself, so I hailed a cab who brought me there. Taxi ride was priced very reasonable at €5, and after making my way down the stairs leading to the underground restaurant I was met by Petteri and the rest of the gang already gathered up around the table, like one big happy family. Gabriel Chew and Tom had also joined in Tallinn. A random dish was ordered off the menu, and was delivered very quickly to me at the table.

Food was chugged before heading off to some russian-style bar where we grabbed a few drinks, and got tipsy... Apart from PetteriFinn who nearly fell asleep. At midnight, we headed back to our respective hotels located near the ferry terminal, and of course no a.net meet is complete without a snowball fight. Luckily I managed to escape fairly dry, with only a few hits on the back. Felt quite sorry for Matt & Tom who were smacked quite badly by Eric (the man who started it, hehehe). All in all, it was a great night out and I hope we’ll do it again some time soon!



Conclusions




I won’t go into much details about the following day, but the flights were rather boring and uneventful. Another painful Fokker flight with a Finn who I hardly even recall seeing awake that day, suppose the previous night must’ve taken quite a toll on the man. The second day at Arlanda more like an anticlimax, but still enjoyable.

What concludes the Arlanda trip reporters meet, and the Tallinn side trip is one heck of a weekend! I had a great time meeting you all, and I hope the Berlin meet will be just as fun. When it comes to the flights, I must say that Air Baltic was perhaps one of the most dull carriers I have ever flown. While my low expectations on the crew and service came to be met, the Fokker however was the plane that put me off the most. Never have I ever imagined an airplane to be so boring and painful to fly, and in the future I will to my best in avoiding this Mother Fokker at any cost.


Thanks for reading!



Previous Reports




Feel free to have a look at my previous reports. The reports are categorised chronologically based on their year/date of publication.


2012

SAS, Lounges, MD-87 & The Brussels Disaster (pics) (by LH4116 Mar 15 2012 in Trip Reports)

Ich Bin Ein Berliner & SAS: B736/MD-82, Y (pics) (by LH4116 Feb 24 2012 in Trip Reports)

Proper Short Haul – Lufthansa CPH-FRA-CPH Y (pics) (by LH4116 Feb 13 2012 in Trip Reports)

SAS At Their Very Finest! ZRH-ARN, Business (pics) (by lh4116 Feb 2 2012 in Trip Reports)

Swiss Flatbed Business Class: PVG-ZRH +More (pics) (by LH4116 Jan 23 2012 in Trip Reports)

Proper Long Haul – Swiss Made: ARN-PVG Y (pics) (by LH4116 Jan 10 2012 in Trip Reports)

2011

LH Italia, You Won’t Be Missed! ARN-MXP C (pics) (by LH4116 Oct 31 2011 in Trip Reports)

Parisian City Break à La Air France. ARN-CDG Y Rt (by LH4116 Aug 27 2011 in Trip Reports)

Long, Sleek And Still Blue. Finnair B757! (pics) (by LH4116 Aug 5 2011 in Trip Reports)

Off To Norway, On A Classic. ARN-BGO SAS Y (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 30 2011 in Trip Reports)

”Flying It Fake” On SAS, ARN-DLM Rt In ”C” (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 5 2011 in Trip Reports)

Norwegian ARN-GOT Inaugural Flights, Feb 17 (pics) (by LH4116 Feb 25 2011 in Trip Reports)

2010

TAP Portugal, And The Moroccan Travesty (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 15 2010 in Trip Reports)

Off To The Northern Skies, On SAS And X2000 (pics) (by LH4116 May 9 2010 in Trip Reports)

http://ww.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/164070/

2009

KLM Y, ARN-AMS R/t + Wonderful Holland (pics) (by LH4116 Oct 30 2009 in Trip Reports)

Trip Report: Train to Gothenburg, 1st Class (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 10 2009 in Non Aviation)

I Give You, SAS At Its Very Best! (pics) (by LH4116 Apr 17 2009 in Trip Reports)


Comments are much appreciated!

”Wheels Up!”
//Jonas


SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11186 times:

Hej, Jonas

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Being the gateway from continental Europe to the arctic north, Arlanda offers some spectacular traffic

Does it? Hmm,... the most spectacular is probably the ET 757 or TG 744 you get  
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
including an array of regional carriers operating all kinds of exotic types few people even knew existed, a wet dream indeed for any well dedicated aviation enthusiast which is why Arlanda was chosen as the location for the meet.

A true a.net tripreport knows exactly what planes are flying around. No wet dreams in ARN... sure!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Tickets on the Estonian Saab sold for €59, which to me is a ripoff considering the flight is only one hours long.

Great bargain fare this is. Even collecting EB miles. A Saab 340 and inflight service. BT can't match this haha

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The breakfast baggie consisted of the standard items, a wholegrain sandwich with cucumber, Wästgöta cheese, and red bell peppers. A tub of Finnish Valio yoghurt, a bottle of artificial off-brand orange juice, and an apple.

No picture of the contents?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I was instantly greeted welcome by Eric who at glance appeared to have gotten quite in good shape and lost a few years of age since the last time I saw him.

The years returned already (I think).

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Soon Eric suggested that we all should head off for some early lunch at his favourite pizza joint, Sbarro.

Did I say Sbarro is my favourite? Hehe... well maybe favourite pizza fastfood. Definitely not my favourite for pizza in general

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I seriously don’t see a point for bringing a plethora of Apple products when going away for a week in the sun. Fine the iPhone is can be brought for some sweet tunes on the plane, but do you also have to bring the Macbook and two both your iPads?

How did you know they go for just 1 week, and what if both use their iPad as ereader? Then you need to take both.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The gate area was strangely empty, which isn’t really surprising considering the poor financial state of the airline.

So, you say people don't book BT anymore because the airline is in bad finance? Hmm..,

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
In the end I managed to fit it in the bin, and the Doc Martens were thrown up there as well.

Really??! For a 1 hour flight? I only takeoff shoes on longhaul.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The cabin smell was not a big issue however, but still the Fokker was by far the most uncomfortable airplane I have ever flown.

You have not enough experience to judge. CRJ100/200 is far more uncomfortable, let not talk about e.g. SA227 and that small stuff.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Breaking through the clouds after takeoff.

Nice picture   

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My worn out VISA card

? It works does it? So not worn out...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):

I would recall the €5 for this combo as a complete ripoff however, due to the airline’s dire financial straits providing them with some additional cash flow was the least thing I could do,

Jaja... that was not the reason for your purchase

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The scheduled B733 had been replaced by a B735, which was quite good for me since I hate the B733 (and B734 for that matter, and don’t ask me why!).

But a 735 gives the same flight experience as a 733/734. It's all the same 'old generation'

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Luckily I managed to escape fairly dry, with only a few hits on the back. Felt quite sorry for Matt & Tom who were smacked quite badly by Eric (the man who started it, hehehe).

Oh that's why you judged me a few years younger.

You managed to write it all quickly indeed... nice overview of these flights.

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11068 times:

Hoi Eric, thanks for reading and of course thanks for the speedy reply  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
Does it? Hmm,... the most spectacular is probably the ET 757 or TG 744 you get  

You don't say? How about the Saab 340&2000, the ATP, the MD-80, and whatever other rare'ish regional type that flies around here.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
A true a.net tripreport knows exactly what planes are flying around. No wet dreams in ARN... sure!

That's a bold generalization, Eric and you know it. I'm sure people have wet dreams about all kinds of places, could be lounges also  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
No picture of the contents?

Sadly I ate them already, and I didn't want to create a scene.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
The years returned already (I think).

Well I think the haircut you had that day made you look some 5 years younger  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
How did you know they go for just 1 week, and what if both use their iPad as ereader? Then you need to take both.

Well their bags were tagged with "Solresor" which is a Swedish charter operator. So based on that assumption they were most likely heading somewhere warm and sunny, trips are usually 1-2 weeks long. I never bring my laptop when traveling.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
So, you say people don't book BT anymore because the airline is in bad finance? Hmm..,

Well that must be the obvious reason. But yes some flights are full but with low fare passengers, also bad for the finance.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
Really??! For a 1 hour flight? I only takeoff shoes on longhaul.

Yes, I think it's nice to take those boots off. But nowadays with Chucks I keep them on.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
? It works does it? So not worn out...

Interestingly yes, that card still works. I better get a new one soon though since I've memorized all the digits. My bank has however changed to MasterCard, so all new issued cards are MC which I don't like. I try and keep my VISA for as long as possible.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 1):
Oh that's why you judged me a few years younger.

Hehe, yes that also 

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10816 times:

Hi Jonas,

Another entertaining read as usual. It is good to hear that you enjoyed your time at the trip reporters' meeting.

Shame that you didn't like the Fokker. I used to fly on them between PER and GET and they weren't that bad.

My, my, what have we here?

Despite

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
a failed accounting exam

and believing that the usual fare

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
is a ripoff considering the flight is only one hours long

you are able to admonish the airlines for their

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
dire financial straits

Now if passengers were not always seeking to use

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
a little bit of my boyish charm

to obtain seats and upgrades

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
courtesy of the house

they might be able to make a bit of money.  

Of course there are several factors that go into determining fares, as you know, and simply working it out on an hourly basis ignores variables like demand, airport fees, ATC fees, etc, etc. I have just done a quick check on average airfares between PER and ARN and found them to be ± AU$2,500. That works out at about AU$108.70 per hour or ± € 84. So, from here € 59 per hour doesn't look too bad. Granted, the fares from PER are on carriers that provide full cabin service and include checked baggage. But then, if you only want to spend € 1 for lunch you won't be dining at the World's Best Restaurant.  

Thanks for sharing your experience. Will you be going to the BER meet? It would be interesting to read your views on that.

Roy / Quokkas


User currently offlineLH4532 From Germany, joined Sep 2011, 81 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10402 times:

Hello Jonas ,

I was thinking that you would not write a TR about the a.net meeting at ARN . Good to see this TR online .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Tickets on the Estonian Saab sold for €59, which to me is a ripoff considering the flight is only one hours long.

I paid 58,58€ for FRA-MUC in August . I would say that the oneway fares are cheap and okay .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
faux crapola

The times of "faux crapola" seem to be over .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I noticed them offering a cup of Espresso for the very reasonable price of 10 SEK.

I paid 23 DKK for my Espresso while waiting for Marc at CPH .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Having already picked up my boarding passes from the manual check-in counter

How long did it take for you to get your boarding passes ?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I received the infamous red light.

I also get the red light sometimes . But I only had changes to different aisle seats   .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
new’ish slimline Recaro seats

The seats look nice .


I enjoyed reading it . See you soon ...


Daniel ( LH4532 )


User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10323 times:

Hello there mr J!

Finally after all these months we get to see your real view on the passed events   Good writing and accompanied ‘by a -lagom- amount of high quality pics that we most likely will enjoy’. Some bald statements again in there, but that’s business as usual  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Arlanda offers some spectacular traffic

… from some very exotic manufacturers as there are Boeing, Airbus,... and with a nice variety of lesser known airlines by the likes of SAS, Norwegian,...

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Tickets on the Estonian Saab sold for €59, which to me is a ripoff considering the flight is only one hours long.

Oh please, don’t start on this one... Besides I got it for € 49 because I had the courage to book early. How about that 

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Soon Eric suggested that we all should head off for some early lunch at his favourite pizza joint, Sbarro.

I highly doubt Sbarro’s being Eric’s favourite pizza joint. It just happens to be this was a place with plenty of tables and room to strectch and featuring food and drinks at a reasonable price.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I on the other hand settled for a café latte, and thanks to my boyish charm I was served a large one, despite paying for the smallest one.

You’re the personification of innocence   

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The gate area was strangely empty, which isn’t really surprising considering the poor financial state of the airline.

That’s a ‘non-conclusion’. It was a Sat afternoon and about the quiest period in the week to travel on an airplane.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
and the Doc Martens were thrown up there as well.

Hence the ‘Air Baltic Fokker smell’  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
the Fokker was also inhumanely noisy.

Props are mostly on the noisier side. Prize yourself lucky you were not on that Saab with us, that was a noisy little bugger!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The Croissant was a filled with ham and cheese. It tasted rather dry, and the fillings seemed very artificial. Apart from that it was very unsubstantial and not filling at all + it crumbled like h*ll leaving a huge mess on my pants and floor. Vegetable soup was also disappointment, basically your usual Knorr cooking stock mixed with hot water and served in a styrofoam cup. Soup was mostly watery, until finishing it when I discovered there was a big lump of unmixed powder in the bottom.

So what did you expect: gourmet cuisine and the onboard chef preparing your soup and croissant right at your seat. Besides: these instand soups require a ‘stirred, not shaken’  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
and B734 for that matter, and don’t ask me why!

Why?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I had a great time meeting you all, and I hope the Berlin meet will be just as fun.

The same here and does that mean you will be Fokkering yourself over to TXL airport as well in a few months time from now?

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1788 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10316 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 3):
Despite

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
a failed accounting exam

and believing that the usual fare

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
is a ripoff considering the flight is only one hours long

you are able to admonish the airlines for their

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
dire financial straits

Now if passengers were not always seeking to use

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
a little bit of my boyish charm

to obtain seats and upgrades

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
courtesy of the house

they might be able to make a bit of money.

Haha, excellent comment and way of commenting Roy!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9898 times:

Daniel, Roy, Nils: Thanks for your replies!

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 3):
Of course there are several factors that go into determining fares, as you know, and simply working it out on an hourly basis ignores variables like demand, airport fees, ATC fees, etc, etc. I have just done a quick check on average airfares between PER and ARN and found them to be ± AU$2,500.

Yeah sure, €59 for a ticket may be regarded as a cheap price. However in my opinion I still find it a bit steep, considering I can get a SAS flight to FRA, or LHR for €50.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 3):
My, my, what have we here?

Hehe, that's very classy  
Quoting LH4532 (Reply 4):
I was thinking that you would not write a TR about the a.net meeting at ARN . Good to see this TR online .

Hi Daniel. Yes I wasn't really planning to make one, but since I got bored I figured I'd might as well write one  
Quoting LH4532 (Reply 4):
The times of "faux crapola" seem to be over .

They are over, so it seems!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 4):
I paid 23 DKK for my Espresso while waiting for Marc at CPH .

That's very expensive for an Espresso, even for Denmark!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 4):
How long did it take for you to get your boarding passes ?

Didn't take long at all, the counter was empty.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
I highly doubt Sbarro’s being Eric’s favourite pizza joint. It just happens to be this was a place with plenty of tables and room to strectch and featuring food and drinks at a reasonable price.

Well Eric is a man who tends to spread some strong word of mouth, like he did with Austrian Airlines. So a good recommendation about Sbarro from Eric mean that the place is super duper good!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
Hence the ‘Air Baltic Fokker smell’  

Maybe that's where it comes from 
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
Why?

Old, don't like the design of the overhead bins and side-walls. Had some bad experiences on the B734 as a kid, so they bring back terrible memories.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 5):
The same here and does that mean you will be Fokkering yourself over to TXL airport as well in a few months time from now?

Nah, if I come over a cheap SAS last minute ticket I will most likely fly with them!

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9826 times:

Sorry Jonas, what about OS??! Yes, they delivered bad service to me, so may I complain being a revenue passenger on them? What has this to do with Sbarro at ARN? And as pointed out, the airport has not much more on offer for our group,this was the only place for a quick bite and drink for an afforable price, with apron views included and sitting in a relaxed way. (so don't come with McD now).

I eat my pizza not at Sbarro, aside from that, this place was choosen and found ok by the whole group.(Caravelle people excluded)

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineEmpressOfCanada From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9589 times:

"Mother Fokker" hehe i like that one  

User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9190 times:

Hi Jonas,

nice to read yet another viewof the Stockholm meet, and another way of going on a side trip. Good story to read, even if I do disagree that EUR59 is a "rip off"  

Thanks for taking the time to write it up.

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27312 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9095 times:

Nice report in your style as always Jonas . Lovely pics as usual.

Gald to hear your view on the meeting .

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1466 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9054 times:

Hi Jonas,

Nice to have a flashback to the January meet.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Tickets on the Estonian Saab sold for €59, which to me is a ripoff considering the flight is only one hours long.

I’d be pretty happy to find a deal like this  
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Having pre-ordered a breakfast baggie for the reasonable cost of €2,30, I made my way over to the Bistro car to pick it up.

That breakfast bag seems quite generous for the price.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So with a little bit of my boyish charm
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
. I on the other hand settled for a café latte, and thanks to my boyish charm I was served a large one, despite paying for the smallest one.

Seems as though you were working the boyish charm well that day?!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The Croissant was a filled with ham and cheese. It tasted rather dry, and the fillings seemed very artificial. Apart from that it was very unsubstantial and not filling at all + it crumbled like h*ll leaving a huge mess on my pants and floor.

I don’t know what croissants you’re used to eating, but in my experience most of them crumble into one large mess.

Sorry to hear you didn’t enjoy the Fokker 50, I haven’t managed to log this aircraft yet.

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8953 times:

Nice to read your point of view as well.

Personally, I like those Fokker 50's. Maybe it's just me being patriotic or something, but they have something special too it. Not the most comfortable no, but on those short flights it usually doesn't matter much.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8785 times:

Hej Jonas

To start with, it was nice meeting you in person that day.
Further on:Nice trip report, thanks for sharing. Nice pics and well writen text as usual.
59 EUR was rather cheap for a one way ticket on OV. You won't find any better on LH, SK, SN... maybe FR, or DJ will offer cheaper.

BT seems to be an ok carrier as well, decent service for such a leg. You can't expect to get 5* service for 59EUR.. s


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8750 times:

Hejsan Jonas!

Great report again. A very enjoyable read regarding your AirBaltic experience. It was great meeting you and all the other a.net tripreporters at ARN that day, and again meeting you a month or so later!  
Too bad I didn't stay longer than my 1hr 40 minutes at Tallinn that time, it sounds like you guys had a great time!
Good idea to catch a flight on the F50, even though you didn't like the experience. As I mentioned to you, I'll try to catch a flight on it too, sooner rather than later. Likely a JZ one, we'll see.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My first impressions of Riga Airport were very positive. The terminal was nice, bright (during daytime i.e) and airy, it offered some comfortable seating and a good selection of food outlets. The terminal architecture reminded a lot of Gardemoen Airport, and overall RIX felt like a miniaturised version of it

This is pretty much my opinion on RIX too, the main pier is very nice.

Martin

[Edited 2012-04-09 08:13:39]

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6939 posts, RR: 77
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8454 times:

Hi Jonas,

well-written report with good pictures - and that title is really interesting.  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Following the swift connection in Sala, I was onboard the SJ InterCity train headed for Arlanda.

Ah, Sriwijaya Air's Swedish subsidiary...  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Having pre-ordered a breakfast baggie for the reasonable cost of €2,30

That's indeed reasonable.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The standard SJ pre-order breakfast baggie.

But where's Sriwijaya's snack box?  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So with a little bit of my boyish charm, I managed to come over some garlic bread courtesy of the house.

I call that begging.  

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Vegetable soup was also disappointment, basically your usual Knorr cooking stock mixed with hot water and served in a styrofoam cup. Soup was mostly watery, until finishing it when I discovered there was a big lump of unmixed powder in the bottom.

Ah, I avoid such food industry products...give me a cup of water instead.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
View of the cramped cabin on this Fokker.

I doesn't look very cramped - actually I find the CRJ and ERJ cabins more uncomfortable.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Those toiletries were bought from a supermarket!

What do you expect?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
The scheduled B733 had been replaced by a B735, which was quite good for me since I hate the B733 (and B734 for that matter, and don’t ask me why!

Yes, I ask you exactly that - what's wrong with the good old 733 and 734?


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8173 times:

Signol, Robert, Hannah, Philip, Marc and Plane Hunter: Thank you so much for your replies, I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting signol (Reply 10):
Good story to read, even if I do disagree that EUR59 is a "rip off"

Thanks! Well I suppose that's a matter of personal preferences, and of course it differs on what you compare to. In this case €59 could buy me 4 flights instead of one, so in comparison to that it was a complete ripoff  
Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
Nice report in your style as always Jonas . Lovely pics as usual.

Hey Philip, I'm glad you enjoyed!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
That breakfast bag seems quite generous for the price.

Generous indeed. Although the €2,30 was just a special offer, they normally charge double for it but still it's quite decent value for the money.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 12):
Seems as though you were working the boyish charm well that day?!

Hehe, well I suppose some days are better than others in terms of "charm" haha  
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 13):
Personally, I like those Fokker 50's. Maybe it's just me being patriotic or something, but they have something special too it.

I suppose those VLM examples are much nicer than the BT ones. Maybe if I flew one of those and enjoyed some proper full service, while seated in a comfy cognac leather seat my opinions about the plane may have been different.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 14):
To start with, it was nice meeting you in person that day.

Hoi Marc! It was very nice meeting you too, and glad that we managed to see each other again two months later 
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 14):
You won't find any better on LH, SK, SN... maybe FR, or DJ will offer cheaper.

Well the SAS last minute fares cost me around €49, and they fly me to pretty much any non-stop destination from ARN to Europe  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 15):
Too bad I didn't stay longer than my 1hr 40 minutes at Tallinn that time, it sounds like you guys had a great time!

Hey Martin. Yes you should really have joined us that evening, we had a fantastic time. But I'm pretty sure there will be a next time for that also.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 15):
Good idea to catch a flight on the F50, even though you didn't like the experience.

I was slightly upset that they had changed it to the F50 since it was originally supposed to be operated by a Q400. A type I was more looking forward to fly.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
Ah, Sriwijaya Air's Swedish subsidiary...  

Haha, well I'd rather say they're The Swedish Railway Company's indonesian airline subsidiary  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
I call that begging.  

Actually no, I was lining up to pay for it when the restaurant manager told me that I could have it for free. Of course I'm not a shameless person enough to beg for things. Suppose our rather large company of a.netters brought in some good revenue for the restaurant that day  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
What do you expect?

Well one would more expect soap, etc to be catered from a cleaning company.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
Yes, I ask you exactly that - what's wrong with the good old 733 and 734?

Hmm, I'd say the overall feel of those planes is not in my liking. The old overhead compartments, square windows, yellow lightning. Generally I'm not a big fan of the 737 (although wouldn't mind flying the more rare examples, like the B732 and B739/ER which are still missing in my log).

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6939 posts, RR: 77
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8107 times:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 17):
Haha, well I'd rather say they're The Swedish Railway Company's indonesian airline subsidiary

Well, everything's a matter of perspective.  

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 17):
Actually no, I was lining up to pay for it when the restaurant manager told me that I could have it for free.

Alright. I forgive you.  




PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7735 times:

Hello Jonas,

Nice to read the A.net meeting from your point of view. As always I really enjoyed your pictures.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I seriously don’t see a point for bringing a plethora of Apple products when going away for a week in the sun. Fine the iPhone is can be brought for some sweet tunes on the plane, but do you also have to bring the Macbook and two both your iPads?

I think it becomes a common sight. During our last holiday, we brought our joint notebook and Smartphone with us .

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
View of the cramped cabin on this Fokker.

It does not look that bad! Or is it the trick of your photography skill?  


Thank you for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

Hi Jonas,

In my latest report I promised to get back to reading your view on the A.net meet - and here I am! High quality pictures as usual and nicely played with the English language!

I can only agree with you on Air Baltic being a dull carrier - but they do the job better than most other airlines. I'd take BT over DY anyday because the former offers online checkin, really cheap fares and employes their own staff instead of hiring workers.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Flying all the way to the arctic Sweden on a mundane 737 or Airbus, only to socialise with the faces behind the usernames was not enough for one certain a.netter. Trip reports legend, fedora spokesman, subculture icon, fellow author and friend P, also known as FlyingFinn76 (or more commonly FlyingFinn, since some bastard already stole that name before him), or PetteriFinn as I refer to call him, had another trick up his sleeve. He suggested that we as the esteemed men of the trip reporter’s society would embark on a little side-trip to Tallinn, and as a treat a one hour hop on the Saab 340 was thrown in to sweeten the deal, supposedly as a way for our European friends to take part of the Arlanda magic.

I love this description of yours!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Tickets on the Estonian Saab sold for €59, which to me is a ripoff

Think of the experience! How many times in your life will you have the chance to fly a cute blue Saab (and get a lovely warm muffin) together with a large bunch of fellow enthusiasts? For that experience, 59 EUR is not a bad price, definitely not.

Afterwards, I can only wonder why no one got the idea of making a sidetrip on the Boeing 717 - that's another exotic type that Arlanda sees quite a lot.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Having pre-ordered a breakfast baggie for the reasonable cost of €2,30

I can only wish our train company VR will some day offer a service like that.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
So with a little bit of my boyish charm, I managed to come over some garlic bread courtesy of the house
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
I on the other hand settled for a café latte, and thanks to my boyish charm I was served a large one, despite paying for the smallest one.

Oh Jonas, you haven't changed at all have you?  
Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
more beer was consumed

Perhaps it was a good thing I wasn't there then?

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
My pre-selected seat 16A

Selected during online checkin? Please don't say you ponied up with your hard earned money to pay for it during booking already? It is so cheap of BT to try to fool people into doing so.

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
no a.net meet is complete without a snowball fight. Luckily I managed to escape fairly dry, with only a few hits on the back. Felt quite sorry for Matt & Tom who were smacked quite badly by Eric (the man who started it, hehehe). All in all, it was a great night out and I hope we’ll do it again some time soon!

This makes me miss I wasn't there. Hopefully we can have a chance to shake hands at BER instead.  

Regards,
717Flyer


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 7312 times:

Hey 717Flyer and Suryo, thanks for your replies!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 19):
I think it becomes a common sight. During our last holiday, we brought our joint notebook and Smartphone with us .

Well I suppose that's an adequate amount of gadgets considering the long duration of your trip.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 19):
It does not look that bad! Or is it the trick of your photography skill?  

Hehe, no that's just the Fisheye working its magic  
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 20):
I can only agree with you on Air Baltic being a dull carrier - but they do the job better than most other airlines. I'd take BT over DY anyday because the former offers online checkin, really cheap fares and employes their own staff instead of hiring workers.

Yeah BT wasn't fun to fly at all, and despite falling into the category of poor legacies I'd rather fly them than a LCC. Although I'd much rather fly SAS over BT, that's for sure!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 20):
I can only wish our train company VR will some day offer a service like that.

Well it was only a special offer, so normally they charge double for that baggie. Then it's better to just buy something at the airport.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 20):
Think of the experience! How many times in your life will you have the chance to fly a cute blue Saab (and get a lovely warm muffin) together with a large bunch of fellow enthusiasts?

Well maybe. But at the time of booking, all I could think about was the segment to cash ratio  
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 20):
Perhaps it was a good thing I wasn't there then?

Nah not so bad, nobody got drunk… Well except for Petteri but that didn't occur until midnight 
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 20):
Selected during online checkin? Please don't say you ponied up with your hard earned money to pay for it during booking already?

Yes OLCI of course! Would never fork out those 10 ish €for advance seat reservation.

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineParton87 From Sweden, joined Sep 2008, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6530 times:

Hej Jonas!

Thanks for the story. Nice too see more from the meeting! It was really nice to meet you and the rest of the A-netters. Really looking forward BER. Are you attending too? Pity you didn´t like the Fokker. I find it quit comfortable for it size but I agree on the windows!

Quoting LH4116 (Thread starter):
She was the sole cabin crew

Interesting! On our return there were two! Maybe because it was a full flight!?

Greetings
Robert


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