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A Battle In The Skies Of Oz, DJ Vs QF, SYD-MEL-SYD  
User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 513 posts, RR: 3
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9154 times:

A Battle in the Skies of Oz, DJ vs QF, SYD-MEL-SYD

Background

While I was in Australia, I decided to do a few domestic legs mostly to add to my log but it also presented a nice opportunity to visit Melbourne. Flights between Sydney & Melbourne are plentiful, in fact it is the world’s 4th most traveled route in the world! Currently there are 4 airlines plying that route, Qantas, Virgin Australia, Jetstar & Tiger Airways. I wasn’t particularly interested in flying JQ as they have plenty of flights here in NZ. I also decided to cross Tiger off the list as all I’ve heard is bad news about them. This left the recently rebranded Virgin Australia & Qantas & after a quick check of schedules & prices I opted to take DJ to MEL than QF back to SYD on the following day. As a bonus the QF flight would be operated by the A332, a type I hadn’t flown on before.

Booking on both DJ’s & QF’s website was quick & easy. Both websites also allow you to manage your booking & offer web check-in. However Virgin doesn’t offer free seat selection to passengers who book the cheapest (Saver) fares which is to the contrary of Qantas who do offer free seat selection. Admittedly, Qantas block almost all of the seats at the front but it’s still better than nothing.


Previous Reports in this Series:
Sydney Bound On The Big Bird! EK A380 AKL-SYD (by aflyingkiwi Feb 12 2012 in Trip Reports)

Monday 30 January

I had booked the 09.00 flight to Melbourne so that meant an early wake up time of about 06.30 & after fighting with Sydney’s public transport system, I eventually arrived at Terminal 2 at about 07.30.

I had already checked in the day before using Virgin’s handy mobile check-in which allows you to choose your seat (I choose 28A) but you still have to collect a proper boarding pass from a kiosk/counter. As I was checking in bags (extra $12), it was the counter for me & after a 15 minute wait I was met by an efficient agent who informed me that there would be a short delay due to bad weather on the incoming leg.

Boarding Pass
http://i.imgur.com/FJ1wr.jpg

Landside
http://i.imgur.com/r9KKd.jpg

There isn’t much to do landside at Australian domestic airports so straight after check-in so I went airside. Security when traveling domestically in Australia is still quite lax as they don’t have those silly liquids restrictions. I used that to my advantage by bringing a water bottle through which probably saved me a couple of bucks.

Anyway I had a quick bite of breakfast at Krispy Kreme then after that I had a quick walk through the terminal.

A couple of Virgin planes still in the old livery
http://i.imgur.com/Nifa6.jpg

DJ 73G (VH-VBJ)
http://i.imgur.com/5JT2b.jpg

Construction site at end of concourse
http://i.imgur.com/Nhqy0.jpg

There was free wi-fi available in the terminal so I used that to surf the web. Here’s the flight status from Virgin’s mobile website



I went to the gate at the scheduled boarding time, 08.30, to see if there was any information though there was no communication at all. In the end, I just ended up waiting in the crowded gate area. Eventually at about 09.00 our plane arrived and about 15 minutes later boarding was announced.

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User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9148 times:

Date: January 30 2012
Routing: Sydney (SYD) to Melbourne (MEL)
Flight No: DJ 826
Timings (actual) : 0900-1035 (0948-1113)
Pushback: 0948
Rotate: 1004
Flying Time (actual) : 1hr 35mins (1hr 25mins)
Seat: 28A

Type: Boeing 737-800
Registration: VH-VUF


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Virgin has an interesting boarding procedure in which they use both the front door (jetway) & the back door which involves walking on the apron. Rows 1-15 board via the front door while rows 16-29 board via the back door. I was seated in row 28 so it was back door for me.

Our plane VH-VUF, in the new livery
http://i.imgur.com/PQ7hE.jpg

Unfortunately after taking this shot, one of the ground staff told me to stop taking photos. I really don’t have a clue why photography is forbidden. It’s something that you wouldn’t really expect for a relatively relaxed country like Australia.

Now back to plane talk. VH-VUF is one of 47 Boeing 737-800’s in Virgin Australia’s fleet. It’s currently 7 years old & has been adorned the name Hobart Honey (Hobart’s a city in Australia). Virgin’s fleet also consists of 11 Boeing 737-700’s, 18 Embraer 190, 3 Airbus A330-200 & 5 Boeing 777-300ER’s operating long haul routes to LAX & AUH. For an airline that was only founded in 2000, they’ve built up a pretty impressive fleet!

Once onboard, I was greeted by a friendly FA & I quickly made my way to my seat 28A. This cabin was still equipped with the old Virgin Blue cabin with blue leather seats, which are comfortable enough. I believe that the seats will gradually be replaced with grey leather seats as part of the rebranding. Legroom is pretty good on Virgin, marketed as 31-33 inches.

http://i.imgur.com/lTDt9.jpg

Soon enough we started taxiing, this is the plane crossing the M5 motorway
http://i.imgur.com/bmwV8.jpg

We ended up departing from runway 34R which is the furthest runway from the domestic terminals. This equated to what felt like an archaically long 15-minute taxi.

http://i.imgur.com/73JSW.jpg

In the air now! Sydney’s International Terminal is on the left
http://i.imgur.com/P99BO.jpg

We were fortunate enough to have some beautiful views of Sydney on our ascent. Here are a few pics for you to enjoy.

Sydney’s CBD & harbour are visible here
http://i.imgur.com/vyGWX.jpg

Turning over Sydney’s Eastern suburbs, famous for it’s numerous beaches
http://i.imgur.com/vuThE.jpg

And here’s the most famous of them all, Bondi Beach!
http://i.imgur.com/0hsX0.jpg

Compared to Auckland, Sydney has a decent amount of high-rise buildings
http://i.imgur.com/k6HrS.jpg

The harbour meets the sea
http://i.imgur.com/YE77H.jpg

Over New South Wales’ South Coast
http://i.imgur.com/1W8BZ.jpg

The plane I was flying on, VH-VUF, was equipped with the Live2Air entertainment system. The system allows you to stream 24 live Foxtel/Austar (Australia’s cable provider) channels. There is also an airshow channel though it’s frequently interrupted with ads. This system was provided free on my flight though according to DJ’s website it does cost $10 to purchase though the description on the website is pretty ambiguous as it also says it may be complimentary on some flights.

The screen size isn’t particularly big[b]
http://i.imgur.com/9PbwF.jpg

[b]Safety card

http://i.imgur.com/yVLa8.jpg

Virgin Australia’s in-flight magazine, ‘Voyeur’
http://i.imgur.com/r1nbQ.jpg

DJ have built up a pretty impressive network!
http://i.imgur.com/cBNYZ.jpg

Virgin Australia has quite an unusual complimentary food setup. Passengers travelling on Flexi fares do get complimentary food though if your travelling on a saver fare (as I was) there is no complimentary food. However to further add to the confusion Capital Connect services (SYD/MEL-CBR), Intra Western Australia flights & all flights operated by ATR turboprops do provide complimentary snacks to all passengers.

Personally I much prefer QF’s service where by they provide complimentary food to all passengers & the food isn’t too shabby either as you’ll find out later in this report.

Virgin Australia still has a menu in conjunction with celebrity chef ‘Luke Mangan’ though the prices are ridiculously high. Come on, you’re expecting me to pay $10 AUD for a sandwich or a pie?

Menu
Description of DJ’s food & beverage service
Various food options
Drink options


Virgin Australia do now offer complimentary tea, coffee & water to all passengers which wasn’t offered by Virgin Blue. A pretty small, but still a good step in the right direction.

Cup of water
http://i.imgur.com/2VCSX.jpg

Before I knew it, this flight was coming to an end. I had some decent views of Melbourne on our approach which was nice.

Melbourne suburbs
http://i.imgur.com/tEHTu.jpg

Melbourne’s CBD
http://i.imgur.com/L1gtI.jpg

A rather bland winglet
http://i.imgur.com/KArPb.jpg

More suburbs
http://i.imgur.com/7RqQj.jpg

The grass is pretty dry in Victoria
http://i.imgur.com/g8h8J.jpg

Qantas A380 seen during taxiing.
http://i.imgur.com/F8bKN.jpg

The Atlasjet plane on the right (TC-ETK) was being wetleased by the now defunct Air Australia.
http://i.imgur.com/epy6j.jpg


User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9129 times:

Melbourne
Once I arrived, I quickly got my bags & took the Skybus to the City. As I only had a little over a day to have a look around Melbourne I quickly dropped off my bags at my hotel & went exploring.

My first port of call was Federation Square.
http://i.imgur.com/6YwwV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OQAJJ.jpg

From there I crossed the Yarra River to the Eureka Tower, which is the 2nd tallest tower in Australia standing at an impressive 297 metres!

http://i.imgur.com/ygLgL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YCrXz.jpg

I bought a ‘Suns & Stars’ ticket, which allows 2 admissions in one day (It was only $4 more so why not?). The lifts that take you up to the Skydeck are apparently the fastest in the southern hemisphere. They manage to traverse the 285m to the skydeck in only 38 seconds. Pretty impressive!

Now onto the views, this is Federation Square
http://i.imgur.com/w5NYe.jpg

The Melbourne Sports Precinct, the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) is on the left, Melbourne Park where the Australian Tennis Open is held is in the centre & AAMI park is on the right [b]
http://i.imgur.com/vGzXB.jpg

[b]The Melbourne Cricket Ground

http://i.imgur.com/MxDqX.jpg

Melbourne CBD
http://i.imgur.com/JCDMD.jpg

St Kilda Rd, Albert Park where the Formula 1 race is held every year is to the right of the tall buildings
http://i.imgur.com/Bo88U.jpg

We’re pretty high up
http://i.imgur.com/w986w.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OwRdi.jpg

I think this is a pretty cool shot
http://i.imgur.com/EMAc7.jpg

This is Melbourne’s famous Flinders St Station
http://i.imgur.com/ze82u.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vTKaI.jpg

As I mentioned earlier I had another admission to the Eureka Tower so I went back up there during late evening.

http://i.imgur.com/H7Zwj.jpg

St Kilda Rd
http://i.imgur.com/3fwpc.jpg

Melbourne CBD
http://i.imgur.com/SBTqx.jpg

Glorious sunset
http://i.imgur.com/o8dH3.jpg

The next morning I caught the tram to Docklands. This area is supposed to become an extension of the CBD but it felt pretty dead when I visited.

Modern Towers
http://i.imgur.com/JqReD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/azOuE.jpg

Etihad Stadium
http://i.imgur.com/OYN1d.jpg

The free city circle tram is very handy for getting around
http://i.imgur.com/dw9YT.jpg

A nice overview of Melbourne
http://i.imgur.com/0h11c.jpg

One of Melbourne’s bustling laneways
http://i.imgur.com/0w9zW.jpg

Overall I had a great time in Melbourne. It doesn’t have as much physical beauty as Sydney with its one-of-a-kind harbour but the place has a great vibe to it. However if you’re into pure sightseeing than 1 or 2 days is probably enough as I had exhausted most of the main sights in my one & a half days there.

At about 4pm I caught the (free) shuttle to the Skybus bus stop & from there the bus to the airport arriving at Terminal 1 just before 5pm.

Qantas have taken a leaf out of Air New Zealand’s book regarding check-in as they now have the same procedure. Firstly you print your boarding pass & bag tag (if needed), then you stick the bag tag onto your bag then you place the bag on conveyer belt. For some reason the kiosk I used didn’t print out a bag tag so I had to go to a counter to check my bag in but that was quickly taken care of.

Check-in kiosk
Check-in Area
http://i.imgur.com/bbTQ3.jpg

Boarding Pass
http://i.imgur.com/CwvHX.jpg

Airside
http://i.imgur.com/WOpn5.jpg

Gate Area
http://i.imgur.com/2ZqH0.jpg

Aside from buying a QF A380 model for myself I pretty much spent my time hanging around the gate reading. While reading I overheard some JQ FA’s who all seemed to be complaining bitterly about pay. I guess it is the end of the month! Eventually the time came to board & it was evident that this A332 was going to be lightly loaded as it took about a minute to clear the queue that had formed at the gate


User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9110 times:

Date: January 31 2012
Routing: Sydney (SYD) to Melbourne (MEL)
Flight No: QF 460
Timings (actual) : 1830-1955 (1829-1948)
Pushback: 1829
Rotate: 1841
Flying Time (actual) : 1hr 25mins (1hr 19mins)
Seat: 51K

Type: Airbus 330-200
Registration: VH-EBP


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The plane that would be flying me to Sydney is VH-EBP which is Qantas’ youngest A330-200 at just 1.5 years old. The plane has been christened the name Ningaloo Reef which is located off the west coast of Australia about 1200 km from Perth. Qantas have 18 A330’s of which 8 are A330-200’s while 10 are A330-300’s.

http://i.imgur.com/BDBzl.jpg

Once on board I was greeted by name (good job QF!) & directed to my seat 51A.

Legroom is acceptable though noticeably worse than DJ
http://i.imgur.com/hVyw9.jpg

The cabin eventually filled up to a load of about 50% mostly filled with the business-friendly crowd as Markus would say. Anyway we pushed back right on time & made our way to Runway 16.

At the gate
http://i.imgur.com/Ezajo.jpg

Crossing east-west runway
http://i.imgur.com/1C7eB.jpg

Airshow
http://i.imgur.com/W30bu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XmXbn.jpg

Cool ‘Jesus ray’ shot on ascent
http://i.imgur.com/UHrhw.jpg

Qantas have an AVOD IFE system on board their A330’s named iQ which is also fitted on their 747’s. It has plenty of selection including:

20 movies
Hundreds of TV shows
10 games
An extensive collection of music
Airshow


It was more than enough for our short hop to SYD & I’m sure that it’ll keep you entertained on QF’s longer routes operated by A330’s.

Welcome page
http://i.imgur.com/wjyQK.jpg

Home
http://i.imgur.com/CKpuG.jpg

Entertainment
http://i.imgur.com/zYHfs.jpg

Airshow
http://i.imgur.com/5PSSN.jpg

Safety Card
http://i.imgur.com/FDDyb.jpg

Wing View
http://i.imgur.com/YgzsM.jpg

One thing that stands out about Qantas is that they still offer complimentary hot meals on dinner flights. There was only one choice, which was butter chicken.

http://i.imgur.com/1gcJD.jpg

Overall it was a delicious meal, the butter chicken had great flavor & the rice wasn’t overcooked. I have to really commend QF for still offering such a substantial dinner service, there are not many places anymore where you get such a great meal service on a 1 & a half hour flight. Big thumbs up to Qantas!

After the meal service I ended up watching a couple of episodes of ‘The Big Bang Theory’. Here a are couple of shots to bring you to the end of the flight

Australia isn’t just desert!
http://i.imgur.com/xqcKO.jpg

Toilet
http://i.imgur.com/tccR2.jpg

Cabin
http://i.imgur.com/l6YAL.jpg

Flight info
http://i.imgur.com/yhJIv.jpg

Our approach path took us over southern Sydney & Botany Bay to an eventual touchdown at SYD.

Nice suburbs
http://i.imgur.com/eX0qX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PbXAH.jpg

Touchdown!
http://i.imgur.com/jcUX7.jpg

A QFLink Dash 8-200 (VH-SDA)
http://i.imgur.com/CTF2k.jpg

Qantas terminal
http://i.imgur.com/gq0lx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1qGGF.jpg

The arrivals experience at SYD was quick & I was soon on my way to the hotel.

Conclusion
Overall I have to say I had 2 very nice flights with the big two Australian Domestic Carriers. Virgin Australia recent rebranding has added some new competition for QF on the domestic scene & it is good to see the improvements that they have made in their service (free water, refurbished cabins) though I think there are still some improvements that could be made (offering a free snack on every flight would be one).

Qantas is the old horse (or roo) in the Australian market but I still think that they provide the benchmark in Australia with great service, unmatched schedules (there are 32 flights between SYD-MEL on the upcoming Monday). However they do still have weaknesses such as the cabins on their 763’s & 734’s which are pretty dated. Personally though out of the 2 flights I enjoyed the QF flight more though to have a fair comparison I really need to try one of Virgin’s ‘sky interior’ B738’s. Despite that it will be really interesting to see the Australian domestic scene heat up & let’s hope that these 2 carriers can bring the best out of each other.

Previous Reports
Sydney Bound On The Big Bird! EK A380 AKL-SYD (by aflyingkiwi Feb 12 2012 in Trip Reports)
A Wet Day In Wellington & NZ’s New A320 (by aflyingkiwi Jul 28 2011 in Trip Reports)
Surprise Trip To Japan Pt 2, NRT-KIX-AKL On NZ 77E (by aflyingkiwi Jun 28 2011 in Trip Reports)
Surprise Trip To Japan Pt 1, AKL-NRT On NZ 767 (by Aflyingkiwi May 24 2011 in Trip Reports)
The Return Leg From Europe, FCO-ICN-AKL On KE (by aflyingkiwi Mar 14 2011 in Trip Reports)
Logging The 717! BCN-VCE On Spanair (by aflyingkiwi Jan 15 2011 in Trip Reports)
A Trip Of A Lifetime To Europe, ICN-LHR On KE (by aflyingkiwi Dec 21 2010 in Trip Reports)
A Trip Of A Lifetime To Europe, AKL-ICN On KE (by aflyingkiwi Dec 2 2010 in Trip Reports)

Regards,
aflyingkiwi


User currently offlinebastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8638 times:

Thanks a flyingkiwi.

I agree I still think QF are miles ahead of DJ. I think that it's disappointing that with the whole DJ rebranding and it's efforts to re-position itself from a LCC to more a full service airline that it hasnt got rid of things like charges for checked bags and food and drink on board.

I recently flew DJ from Canberra to Fiji via Sydney (0:45min Canberra - Sydney and 4:00 Sydney - Fiji). Was inpressed with Canberra to Sydney. Free food and drink. But was amazed at Sydney to Fiji. To be honest I could have been on Jetstar. AU$25 each way to check a bag. No free food or drink. I mean I am all for the low cost approach if thats how you position your airline and marketing but Virgin Australia is seriously muddy-ing the waters.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6639 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8565 times:

Hi aflyingkiwi,

great report with many nice pictures! Good to see QF still offers a high-quality product on domestic routes. I flew MEL-SYD on VH-EBA some years ago. Legroom looks tighter on the A332 now!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 1):
Unfortunately after taking this shot, one of the ground staff told me to stop taking photos. I really don’t have a clue why photography is forbidden. It’s something that you wouldn’t really expect for a relatively relaxed country like Australia.

It happened to me at HTI once - I was boarding a Virgin flight, too.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2429 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8428 times:

Hi aflyingkiwi,

Excellent report of flying domestic in the Land of Down Under. It reminds me of my own fond experience last month.  


Quoting aflyingkiwi (Thread starter):
As a bonus the QF flight would be operated by the A332, a type I hadn’t flown on before.

Apart from it, it’s always exciting to fly a widebody on a domestic flight.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Thread starter):
Security when traveling domestically in Australia is still quite lax as they don’t have those silly liquids restrictions.

I can only agree. It’s such a relief.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Thread starter):
Here’s the flight status from Virgin’s mobile website

Cool website. By the way, did you have it displayed on an iPad?

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 1):
Virgin has an interesting boarding procedure in which they use both the front door (jetway) & the back door which involves walking on the apron. Rows 1-15 board via the front door while rows 16-29 board via the back door. I was seated in row 28 so it was back door for me.

Interesting, but very welcomed boarding procedure. Garuda has similar procedure at my hometown airport of Semarang.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 1):
Unfortunately after taking this shot, one of the ground staff told me to stop taking photos. I really don’t have a clue why photography is forbidden. It’s something that you wouldn’t really expect for a relatively relaxed country like Australia.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
It happened to me at HTI once - I was boarding a Virgin flight, too.

That’s ridiculous! I had no problem whatsoever with photography on the tarmac during my last trip. Can it be typical Virgin?

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 1):
Legroom is pretty good on Virgin, marketed as 31-33 inches.

According to Seatguru, it should only be 30-31 inches. But it can be wrong.   


Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 1):
DJ have built up a pretty impressive network!

Even a nonstop flight to Uluru to SYD.  Wow!


Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 2):
They manage to traverse the 285m to the skydeck in only 38 seconds. Pretty impressive!

Amazing!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 2):
I think this is a pretty cool shot

Artistic.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 2):
The free city circle tram is very handy for getting around

Free? On that beautiful vehicle? You must be kidding!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 2):
1 or 2 days is probably enough as I had exhausted most of the main sights in my one & a half days there.

Thanks for the tip. Your covering of Melbourne whet my appetite to visit the city one day.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 3):
Cool ‘Jesus ray’ shot on ascent

Gorgeous!   


Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 3):
I have to really commend QF for still offering such a substantial dinner service, there are not many places anymore where you get such a great meal service on a 1 & a half hour flight. Big thumbs up to Qantas!

Kudos to QF indeed! Try to get that on board of one and a half hour intra-European flight.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 3):
Australia isn’t just desert!

I believe you.


Thank you so much for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8428 times:

Nice report, and nice photos of Melbourne as well!

I have to agree that QF domestic still far outdoes VA. Just doing a drinks run and handing out cookies/muffins etc and apples as a minimum on each flight makes a big difference. As does providing free baggage.

Quoting bastew (Reply 4):
Virgin Australia is seriously muddy-ing the waters.

Agreed. The premium look and feel only really applies to premium passengers.


User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7769 times:

Hi aflyingkiwi.

Great trip report, thanks for sharing it with us.
I'm quite impressed by the service on the DJ leg. Looks like the Southwest Airlines from down under!
I'm quite surprised as well by the limited seat pitch on QF during the return.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7613 times:

Hi bastew,

Quoting bastew (Reply 4):
Thanks a flyingkiwi.

Thanks

Quoting bastew (Reply 4):
I agree I still think QF are miles ahead of DJ. I think that it's disappointing that with the whole DJ rebranding and it's efforts to re-position itself from a LCC to more a full service airline that it hasnt got rid of things like charges for checked bags and food and drink on board.

  

Quoting bastew (Reply 4):
I recently flew DJ from Canberra to Fiji via Sydney (0:45min Canberra - Sydney and 4:00 Sydney - Fiji). Was inpressed with Canberra to Sydney. Free food and drink. But was amazed at Sydney to Fiji. To be honest I could have been on Jetstar.

Yeah, the different service procedures with Virgin must really annoy some frequent customers.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
great report with many nice pictures!

Thanks PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Good to see QF still offers a high-quality product on domestic routes. I flew MEL-SYD on VH-EBA some years ago. Legroom looks tighter on the A332 now!

Yes, the QF domestic product is very good. I think VH-EBP is a domestic only bird so that may be the reason that the legroom is tighter?

Hi Suryo,

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Excellent report of flying domestic in the Land of Down Under. It reminds me of my own fond experience last month.

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to your report on your flights down under.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
it’s always exciting to fly a widebody on a domestic flight.

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
By the way, did you have it displayed on an iPad?

It's an iPod Touch.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
I had no problem whatsoever with photography on the tarmac during my last trip. Can it be typical Virgin?

I'm not sure. Hopefully it's not company policy!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Even a nonstop flight to Uluru to SYD.

They also fly to Cocos & Christmas Island. That's one flight I'd like to go on!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Free? On that beautiful vehicle? You must be kidding!

Melbourne do a good job with free transportation as they also had a free bus going to all the main sights. It was pretty crowded though but very much appreciated.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 6):
Kudos to QF indeed! Try to get that on board of one and a half hour intra-European flight.

Are there still any airlines that offer hot meals on short intra-european flights? Do BA still do their hot breakfast?

Hi qf002,

Quoting qf002 (Reply 7):

Nice report, and nice photos of Melbourne as well!

Thanks!

Quoting qf002 (Reply 7):
I have to agree that QF domestic still far outdoes VA. Just doing a drinks run and handing out cookies/muffins etc and apples as a minimum on each flight makes a big difference.

  

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 8):
Great trip report, thanks for sharing it with us.

Thanks Marc.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 8):
I'm quite impressed by the service on the DJ leg. Looks like the Southwest Airlines from down under!

I guess they are pretty similar though but I believe Southwest still offers a pack of peanuts which is something DJ doesn't do.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 8):
I'm quite surprised as well by the limited seat pitch on QF during the return.

It wasn't too bad for the one & a half hour flight.

Regards,
aflyingkiwi


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6639 posts, RR: 78
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6050 times:

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 9):
I think VH-EBP is a domestic only bird so that may be the reason that the legroom is tighter?

It seems 31" is QF's standard everywhere. Just "enjoyed" that on my recent LHR-SIN flight on the A380.


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