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The Swiss Sisters... Or Nearly: BRU-ZRH-LYS And Vv  
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 12797 times:
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This report is dedicated to my daughter.

Disclaimer: This report has no affiliation whatsoever with The Jonas or Blues Brothers or Scissor Sisters or Sister Sledge or whoever. This report also features an abundant use of the colours white and red. If you happen to have an allergy to this colour combo, please stop reading, you might go in shock...

introduction

Lately I have been suffering from light to medium flight deprivation due to (happy) family matters. Some weeks ago my wife and I had the privilege to welcome a new member to our family, a baby girl. As some of you may know, parental life is all about dedication and for some time now my only concerns are keeping the newborn happy, fed and dry and trying to have some decent amount of sleep for myself at night.

Now that the whole family organisation is becoming less chaotic, it was about time to plan an ‘escape day’ of some sorts. I was thinking about a day with only me myself and I and a(n) (some) airplane(s). You might call it ‘quality air time’  

After an extensive browsing session I finally settled on a daytrip on Swiss. A closer look on the schedules revealed some interesting options. First of all, on Wednesdays the 2nd ZRH flight of the day ex-BRU operates on Edelweiss Air metal. Edelweiss Air is a charter airline under Swiss’ wings, mainly serving holiday destinations ex-ZRH with a scheduled Swiss run now and then to fill up some gaps. They also have this cute livery, starring the unofficial national flower of the Swiss, the edelweiss.
Another interesting option was the return to BRU in the evening with the early evening flight which is operated on Helvetic Airways’ F100. This flight operates daily.
So as to include both the Edelweiss and Helvetic in one day, I had to book for a Wednesday and that’s exactly what I did.

So, to sum it up:
BRU-ZRH Edelweiss Air A320
ZRH-LYS-ZRH Swiss European Airlines Avro RJ100 (same aircraft return)
ZRH-BRU Helvetic Airways F100

And on a map (thanks to the excellent www.gcmap.com, copyright Karl L Schwartz):



All on one ticket, for a grand total of € 236, or € 59/leg. For those that measure the ‘flight value’ by the price compared to the inflight length: I did the math for you and this day clocks off at € 0,87/min of flight. A bargain or not: I let you be the judge  

on to ZRH

The day starts as usual, quite early that is. I fulfill my morning duties, say goodbye to all my housemates and hop on the motorbike for the half an hour commute to the airport. Already dreaming of my flight on that lovely Edelweiss plane, my mind wonders off and I come to think of an appropriate song:

’Edelweiss, edelweiss
Ev'ry morning you greet me
Small and white
Clean and bright
You look happy to meet me’


-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --

Not that I have lots of time to drift off. The ride to BRU is quite busy and I elbow my way in between the queuing cars and lorries, that’s the advantage - and danger - of a motorbike for you.

Once in the terminal I realise I have only printed out my booking confirmation and forgot to print the BP’s. So I pass by the Swiss checkin, which happens to be the only empty counter in the hall and the friendly lady hands me over my 4 BP’s for the day.

Passing by the SN checkin counters, the most likely elaborate checkin for the flight to this exotic destination has just started. Quite a generous bagage allowance for Y class if you ask me:


After a swift security screening I emerge out of the tunnel under the apron and meet up with all these people. The place is packed:


I arrive at gate A51 - the inbound is already there - and see my worst nightmare come true: that’s no Edelweiss plane! Bummer.


In fact, I could’ve known already. While checking the ZRH airport website I learned already the day before that this flight had a ‘normal’ Swiss plane scheduled. Operational reasons for sure. And as a matter of fact, that’s not the only ‘operational reason’ for today. But I’m running ahead on things, first things first!

Some 10 minutes left so I have the usual look around. Next door sees a Vueling bus, with boarding in full swing. I kinda like the tail design:


This one’s for OA260:


Boarding is called and I duly make my way into HB-IJR’s belly.


BRU to ZRH
LX787
A320 HB-IJR
STD-STA 9h20-11h05
Y class
seat 36A


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Through the glass jetbridge I spot these titles on the neighbouring Austrian plane. I’ve never been here before, but hey, if it features mountains, it’ll be a nice place (right, Hannah?)


The purser and F/A at the door greet me genuinely and also the one in the back - a nice young blond and talkative Swiss girl exchanges greetings with me. I ask her where my Edelweiss plane is and she says it has gone to TXL this morning. She also tells me that she was supposed to work on an Edelweiss plane as well this morning - going out to some holiday destination - but last minute she got switched to this very flight. So Swiss moves its crew around in the family apparently.

The Austrian plane in full:


The captain checking what has to checked:


Always nice to see the airshow operating on these short hops:


The cabin makes a good impression: it’s clean with comfy seats, good enough legroom and I have 6 seats for me:


We do the pushback thing and this reveals a nice Nordic trio. Dedicated to our friends from up there. Do you know which one goes to where?


Takeoff is via the usual means: runway 25R:


This one tailgates us, from a safe distance of course:


Takeoff features your usual BRU overviews. The weather isn’t improving btw...




Some road infarct:


And a last view after a lefthand turn. Next stop ZRH:




The flight is uneventful, outside it is cloudy for most of the way. The crew meanwhile do their round, serving a croissant and drinks to those who desire (me! me! me!). Even a 2nd croissant is offered which I gladly accept.

A croissant and lemon tea:


You can call this a stylish plastic glass:


The seat pockets contents is not overly interesting. An article on New Delhi however features some nice photos:


Thank U2:


Some 45 minutes later, we gently dive down meaning the descent into ZRH is initiated. We come out of the clouds and the nice Swiss landscape unfolds underneath us. There’s even some snow left on the peaks:


Seeing all this beauty underneath me makes me lyrical again...

’High on a hill was a lonely goatherd
Lay ee odl lay ee odl lay hee hoo
Loud was the voice of the lonely goatherd
Lay ee odl lay ee odl-oo

Folks in a town that was quite remote heard
Lay ee odl lay ee odl lay hee hoo
Lusty and clear from the goatherd's throat heard
Lay ee odl lay ee odl-oo’


-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --




Landing on runway 14 is imminent now:


What spies me eyes? I do hope this one’s still on schedule this evening...


A short taxi passed the E gates section and we make a stop at the A gates.




Right next to a German winged bus:


I disembark as the last person on board and say my goodbyes to the crew and captain, who is at his office door wishing everyone a nice continuation of the day. I tell him: ‘The same to you too and enjoy the flight to HAM!’ He gives me a puzzled look and probably thinks: how does he know, but he soon replies: ‘I sure will, see you next time’.

’So long, farewell
Auf Wiedersehen, adieu
Adieu, adieu
To you and you and you’


-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --


Yeah - rub it in will you! The exact plane that was supposed to take me here is now coming in from TXL. For a moment I have this hallucination: shall I wait for the crew and make them feel sorry? No, of course not. Just better luck next time.


I have some 2 hours of time to kill at ZRH before the next run to LYS. So I decide to do my morning walk and explore the facilities - and that includes the lavatories as well.
Most views are quite familiar for a lot of you so I just let the pics do the talking here. In fact the only part of ZRH I really like is the main hall with the obligatory shops and restaurants. the A gates is a rather dark and unpleasant waiting area. On a positive note: ZRH has excellent spotting opportunites throughout the whole terminal!






I settle down at the Sports Bar which sports comfy chairs and a view. There are indeed worse places to have a rest:


And of course this view is complemented with a cool drink.


Didn’t I warn you for the excessive use of white and red?


After a sip and a nibble at the bar, I part ways with the comfy chairs and go for another walkabout.

I like this colour scheme. For the pax inside, there was probably not much to like as this one was mighty late...


There are multiple ‘farm’ sections in ZRH. Here’s the ‘Avro RJ100 farm’, I like the way they are brotherly/sisterly parked together:


And like in AMS: the ‘Fokker farm’, albeit in a small version:


HB-IYS passes by. I guess Swiss didn’t overhear my wishes to have this one operating today’s LYS flight.


This one’s for Lee, cheers mate!


And just in time, I see this one taking off from runway 16. It remains a sight.


on to LYS

I take a look at the FIDS and finally the gate for LYS is announced. As expected the flight will leave from the A busgates downstairs:


These gates feature a waiting area upstairs with ample views and seating:


And an actual boarding area downstairs where the only view is that of the distinctive ZRH airport Cobus’.


So boarding is by bus and we drive right to the expected ‘Avro RJ100 farm’. Nice views along the way but sadly these bus’ windows are equipped with the latest technology in sun protection. I get dizzy from looking out the window. Those who know GVA airport will know what I mean.

We make a stop at HB-IXR.


ZRH to LYS
LX532
Avro RJ100 HB-IXR
STD-STA 13h00-14h00
Y class
seat 21A


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Quite some rollerboards are tagged ‘delivery at aircraft’. Yeah - these aircraft’s overhead bin capacity is quite limited.

En détail:


When I turn around, I spot another white and red machine:


I enter this little cutie and am greeted with a ‘Grüß Gott’ by the female purser. ‘The same to you’, I reply and make my way to the back in this almost fully loaded little 4-holer where another FA acknowledges my presence.


I settle down in my seat. The cabin is clean but clearly this aircraft shows it’s age. Also the last seats on the left feel more cramped because of the curvature of the cabin. And no recline is possible.

My view onto a part of the galley. Little bits and things indicate this is a very 90’s aircraft. Actually this one dates back from 1996. I was in my early 20’s back then... that’s a looooong time ago lol!


A view to the cabin, the Recaro’s are comfy enough:


The flight time is announced as 35 mins with some turbulence to be expected on arrival into LYS. The ‘some turbulence’ would be an understatement...

We leave our parking spot under own power. There’s the advantage of being parked in an opposite way with one another and to have apron space on both sides. We make a beeline for runway 28 and take into the skies, lazy like only an Avro will do:


What follows are some view of Zürich, the city:


And of Zürich, the airport:


And of the Alps of course, but at quite a distance:


Service is drinks and drinks alone, some Coca of the Cola does fine by me. All served with a  


Enroute there’s not much to be seen outside...


I think we overflew a French region, called ‘Les Vosges’ - which btw is a motorbike paradise - as there is some snow to spot:




Powerline highway:


Not before long, we enter the valleylike region where the city and airport of Lyon is located. From now it starts to get interesting as gusting winds start to play with our little Avro. The views outside are almost your typical French countryside views:


Some (public) swimming pools, probably too cold and windy to swim in today:


Some mustard coloured colza fields. Will our aircraft ever fly on their seeds?


The lower we go, the more violent the turbulence becomes. Taking photos has now become virtually impossible. When I see the runway underneath, I notice our plane is almost perpendicular to it:


We touch soil with the left side gear first and then the pilot turns the nose back in alignment with the runway and puts the right gear down as well, real gently. That’s top class craftmanship by the folks up front!

We leave runway 18L...


… and taxi into gate 16A at terminal 1, next to a Lufty Boeing. Besides this plane and ours, T1 is totally empty.


The other pax and I disembark. While walking down the aisle I notice the plane still shakes around due to the hefty winds - I even have to hold on to the seats!

LYS has no airside transfer possibility, therefore I exit through the bagage claim area:


2 minutes later I’m back in the departure hall, which counts at least some people::


FIDS:


I don’t have much time to look around, because my return flight to ZRH will be boarding soon. Security is a breeze and the French folks on duty there seem to enjoy their job: they are all friendliness and smiles. Well done LYS!

Here she is again. To the left is T2, which is AF (Skyteam) domain:


The boarding area is quite small, there is enough seating but the layout is kinda strange. The area consists of several ‘boxes’, each with a number of gates. Our ‘box’ is 16 and the gate itself is 16A. You can only walk around in your own ‘box’, so for those who seek to spot some airside, you views are quite limited.


A FIDS in our box: clearly all *A flights scheduled:


on to ZRH


LYS to ZRH
LX533
Avro RJ100 HB-IXR
STD-STA 14h55-15h55
Y class
seat 21A


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Another boarding is done and also the gate agents are a happy bunch. ‘Bon vol et bonjour Monsieur’. ‘Le même à vous, Madame’, I reply. And on my way I go.

A crew change has taken place, a young male and female FA this time, both biz friendly to say the least (and most). I take the same seat, 21A in the back, commenting to the FA: ‘It’s still warm (the seat that is)’. She replies with ‘Yes, the inbound pax left the plane not so long ago’. Yeah - I know  

Same view, but the Lufty is probably already back in FRA:


The same drill is performed prior to leaving our stand: counting, announcing all kinds of things that have to be announced. Meanwhile the plane still plays rattle and roll with the wind. Not by surprise, the captain announces ‘some’ turbulence on our climb out of LYS.

In French they say: ‘le couloir’:


The plane gets a push, a long push, a very long push. In fact it’s so long we are nearly pushed until the threshold of the departing runway. Nah - just exaggerating a tiny bit here, but the pushback was very lengthy. We cruise past T2 which is occupied with all AF Réginalds:


And some more...


As far as the eye can see...


Will it ever stop? I don’t know!


When turning onto the departing lane 18R, I see this one not having an ‘easy’ time as well as she’s struggling to keep herself aligned with the runway. As we start our roll, the race begins! We speed up, she slows down and in the end we part ways:




Le péage:


Indeed some turbulence again on climbing out of LYS, but not as bad as coming in.
We come to a cruise and the crew duly performs their drill which is serving the thirsty:


The galley:


What’s inside this trolley? Hmm, let’s see:


Not much has changed weather wise: murky views outside, now also on descent and approach into the Zürich area. I do manage to get a shot of this power plant:


We’re wheels at tarmac in ZRH some 40 mins after leaving LYS and taxi to the same parking position as we departed from some 2 hours ago. The Cobus drops us off at the A gates. Having some 2,5h to kill again, I decide to go landside and head the new viewing deck at the B gate area.
On the way, I pass through the checkin area 1, which is mainly a Swiss affair:


And through checkin area 2 as well which is home to a mix of airlines. I find this area look rather dark and unattractive:


Ha, there it is. Entry is ‘pay per visit’, I guess to cover the costs of the x-ray screening involved? At least the viewing and photographing opportunities seem good. No obstructions or high fences whatsoever. For a moment I decide to enter but as the weather is not the best - and I have no jacket with me today - I decide to skip for now. There most probably will be another a.net meet held here someday, no?


Adjacent to the viewing deck is a self-service restaurant and I decide to have my early dinner there. The place is virtually empty but that’s not surprising because it’s a little before 5 pm. I go with the turkey today and although it’s not Christmas yet, it is nicely stuffed with a very tasty filling. Some basmati rice and curry sauce accompany this tasty dish. And to my surprise, the price is reasonable as well.

Feeling quite stuffed, I pack up and go back airside. Security is efficient enough, the moment I arrive there, I’m the first to be sent to the upper level screening area. After that, it’s back downstairs and on to the gate area. I locate another FIDS and see this message next to the BRU flight:


An ‘operational delay’ of 20 mins is announced. For a moment I start to think my 2nd worst nightmare of the day is about to come true: no Helvetic Airways flight! My heart starts pounding so hard I feel it in my throat. Since the gate is A54, the most likely substitution would be another proper Swiss Avro. Or perhaps, another Helvetic F100? I tell myself: think positive! And my mind wonders off again...

’When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad’


-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --

I go back all the way to the busgate waiting area and settle down at the window. Quite a queue for takeoff on n°10 has formed:


Suddenly one of those bagage transporters races past. A suitcase flies off one of the carts. The driver turns his head, but drives on. A Cobus, following him, does a near hit with the fallen case but the driver doesn’t stop. Some minutes later, someone stops and picks up the bag. I feel sorry for the bag and am glad it’s not mine:


on to BRU

After witnessing this major incident - probably in the papers tomorrow! - I gather my few belongings and head on down where boarding for my flight is in full swing. It’s an all ‘business type traveller’ load today, except for me and a handful of others.


ZRH (Zürich, Switserland) to BRU (Brussels, Belgium)
LX788
F100 HB-JVE
STD-STA 18h25-19h20
Y class
seat 22A


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The bus drives off to the ‘Avro farm’, but there’s not a single Avro to see. My smile becomes brighter as we make a halt:


Happy and excited as a kid I am, it makes me want to sing out loud!

’Doe, a deer, a female deer
Ray, a drop of golden sun
Me, a name I call myself
Far, a long, long way to run
Sew, a needle pulling thread
La, a note to follow Sew
Tea, a drink with jam and bread
That will bring us back to Do’


-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --

At second though: better no singing, all these business men must think I’m some lunatic or so (well I am just a tiny bit  ). I board as the last one and take some more shots instead:




Another friendly welcome at the door by - what I later learn is - the female capt and the purser.
All the way in the back is my seat, 20F but oh, shock horror, major mistake here!

Half a window with an obstructed view. And I studied that seat map so well for    out loud!


The cabin is in excellent condition and my seat can easily fit a sumo wrestler.


That’s how roomy it is! I spot no vacant window seats more up front, so I’ll have to settle on this one. It doesn’t matter, I’m more than happy to be in this plane anyhow! Oh and the seat reclines almost to a full flat bed.


A closer look at the engine reveals a former paint job:


Which do you like best?

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A soothing female voice comes on the horn, explaining about a last minute plane change, hence the delay. But time will be made up enroute, since the winds will be blowing in our direction as well. Good to know   Meanwhile we leave our position and taxi off to runway 10 for the 2nd time today where Miss Captain pulls the throttle for a rolling take off. The distinctive whining of these tail mounted engines is music to my ears. And no, no singing this time!


This largest of Fokkers goes like a rocket!


Leaving behind the Swiss countryside. Now where’s that lonely goatherd?


The seat belt sign stays on for quite some time, nearly half of the 1h flight.


Finally, the crew can start their duties. They have a hard time feeding nearly 100 pax. By the time they reach the last row, the captain announces ‘crew, landing in 10 minutes’. We do get a tasty chicken sandwich and a drink of choice:


I do take my time however to eat and drink what is offered to me.
We are nearing BRU now, the sun is reflecting on the wet landscape, meaning it has rained here:




All good things come to an end and so does flight LX788... Here’s some wing action upon touching down on runway 25L:


Hello folks up there, I’m back!


We dock into one of the A gates, I believe it’s the same one that we used this morning. I ask for a flight deck shot which is met with a ‘sure, go ahead’. Nice bunch, these Helvetic people  


With this last photo and me back at point 0, this excellent day out has come to an end. I phone up the wife and tell her I’ll be at home in a jiffy. I’m all smiles when I hear the familiar sound of crying kids in the background  

conclusion

I had a great day out on Swiss. There are already many reports here on the site featuring this airline. In general, the reviews are quite good in all travel classes. I can only comment that their economy product hits the spot nicely for me. The Airbus fleet features good seating comfort and a nice recent airshow. The Avro’s are still comfy enough but be sure to pick a seat somewhat more upfront. The biggest surprise was the Helvetic Fokker: really comfortable and roomy.
Too bad I missed out on the Edelweiss bus, but that’ll for sure be something for a next mission.

Thanks for reading and and let me end as follows:

’So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye

I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye -- Goodbye!

I'm glad to go, I cannot tell a lie

I flit, I float, I fleetly flee, I fly

The sun has gone to bed and so must I

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye’


-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --


Sultanils


In thrust we trust.
57 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26506 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12708 times:

Hey Nils  

Great report and makes me home sick from the LX flights ! I need to book one soon after seeing these tails  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This one’s for OA260:

Eυχαριστώ  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --

Haha too funny .  

PS . Love the sneak preview of the new Terrace at ZRH ! Another must for me .

Congratulations again on your new arrival . You will be kept busy .

Regards

Philip  



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3037 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12664 times:

Very nice Nils, with some plesant interludes from Maria! Shame about the plane change.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Passing by the SN checkin counters, the most likely elaborate checkin for the flight to this exotic destination has just started. Quite a generous bagage allowance for Y class if you ask me:

Well, the Africans like to travel heavy, the polar opposite to the N.E.Asians

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There are multiple ‘farm’ sections in ZRH. Here’s the ‘Avro RJ100 farm’, I like the way they are brotherly/sisterly parked together:

Ha, nicely described

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
These gates feature a waiting area upstairs with ample views and seating:

Seems very sensible to sort flights by "boarding" and "please wait"

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A crew change has taken place, a young male and female FA this time, both biz friendly to say the least (and most). I take the same seat, 21A in the back, commenting to the FA: ‘It’s still warm (the seat that is)’. She replies with ‘Yes, the inbound pax left the plane not so long ago’. Yeah - I know

I'm suprised there is a crew change in a non-hub?! And funny comment from you!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Suddenly one of those bagage transporters races past. A suitcase flies off one of the carts. The driver turns his head, but drives on. A Cobus, following him, does a near hit with the fallen case but the driver doesn’t stop. Some minutes later, someone stops and picks up the bag. I feel sorry for the bag and am glad it’s not mine:

Isn't that a big no-no having luggage loose on the ramp?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Which do you like best?

Neither, I think they both look bad



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User currently offlinervxkaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12657 times:

Hi Nils!

So happy that you managed to find time away from your beautiful baby to take up to the skies again! I am privileged to read your first TR as a father! When will be your little girl's first ever flight!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This report has no affiliation whatsoever with The Jonas or Blues Brothers or Scissor Sisters or Sister Sledge or whoever.

I love the humourous start!!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Lately I have been suffering from light to medium flight deprivation due to (happy) family matters.

Lol... ground sickness my friend  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
my wife and I had the privilege to welcome a new member to our family, a baby girl.

Congratulations to you once again!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I come to think of an appropriate song

That song brings back lovely memories when I had to sing it during music classes as a kid! Lovely song!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Quite a generous bagage allowance for Y class if you ask me

Very generous indeed!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I ask her where my Edelweiss plane is and she says it has gone to TXL this morning.

The one that got away eh?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Thank U2:

I'd always adored this wonderful touch on SWISS.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Didn’t I warn you for the excessive use of white and red?

I love this picture to bits. Really bold and loud. Wonderful livery.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There are multiple ‘farm’ sections in ZRH. Here’s the ‘Avro RJ100 farm’, I like the way they are brotherly/sisterly parked together:

I chuckled when I saw this. Really funny!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Some mustard coloured colza fields. Will our aircraft ever fly on their seeds?

Lovely scene!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Happy and excited as a kid I am, it makes me want to sing out loud!

Another song that brings great childhood memories!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
We do get a tasty chicken sandwich and a drink of choice:

Nice!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I had a great day out on Swiss. There are already many reports here on the site featuring this airline. In general, the reviews are quite good in all travel classes. I can only comment that their economy product hits the spot nicely for me

Its really great to hear that you'd a nice time onboard SWISS, much like many of the other reviews I've read. They seem to deliver a consistently good service onboard and the SWISS chocolates remain one of their nicest differentiation factors!

Great job on lighting up your TR with the very apt lyrics from Sound of Music! I'm sure Baby L would be proud of her creative dad in conjuring this lovely TR when she learns to read!  

Bests,
Gavin



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2472 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12646 times:

Goedenamiddag Nils

Great report you have out there, it was in interesting read.
Too bad you got LX instead of Edelweiss. However I must say LX did not look bad at all.
Comfy seating and nice catering, some nice flywork has been done by the captain on the ZRH-LYS sector as well.
Great job on getting the Helvatic F100, looks pretty good

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Avro RJ100 HB-IXR

Logged her as well between ZRH and BRU in july 2006.


Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12609 times:
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Hi all, many thanks for your swift replies!
Here goes:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Great report

Hi Philip, thanks!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
I need to book one soon after seeing these tails

Please do, and it’s not only the tails that look good  

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Another must for me

For me too and a reason to come back next time.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Very nice Nils

Thanks Gabriel.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Well, the Africans like to travel heavy

Yeah I know. You should’ve seen some people queuing...

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Seems very sensible to sort flights by "boarding" and "please wait"

Indeed it makes sense. And the downstairs area has only a handful of seats so better to stay @ the ‘upper deck’.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
I'm suprised there is a crew change in a non-hub

I was surprised as well. Swiss however has 4 dailies to Lyon, so it makes a little bit of sense.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Isn't that a big no-no having luggage loose on the ramp?

It was not on the ramp itself but on the designated areas where the bus and other vehicles have to drive. But still a big ‘no-no’ in any case.

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
Hi Nils!

Hello Gavin, thanks for commenting my friend.

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
I am privileged to read your first TR as a father!

Actually, I have already written some more as a father, we have a 2,5y old son as well  

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
Lol... ground sickness my friend

That’s right!

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
Congratulations to you once again!

Thanks!

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
That song brings back lovely memories when I had to sing it during music classes as a kid! Lovely song!

There must be a video of that somewhere on YouTube or so?

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
The one that got away eh?

The very one...

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
and the SWISS chocolates remain one of their nicest differentiation factors!

Yes indeed and they even had big ads in the terminal referring to this detail in their service concept.

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
I'm sure Baby L would be proud of her creative dad in conjuring this lovely TR when she learns to read!

I’ll show here the TR once she can read... and speak some English  

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 4):
Goedenamiddag Nils

Insgelijks Marc!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 4):
Great report you have out there, it was in interesting read.

Many thanks, I’m happy you liked it.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 4):
some nice flywork has been done by the captain on the ZRH-LYS sector as well.

For sure it was. Not an approach for the faint of heart and mind.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12521 times:

Hi Julie Andrews er, Nils.

A very entertaining trip report. Shame that you missed out on the planned Edelweiss flight. Nice to see that all the staff that you encountered were cheerful and friendly.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
and see this message next to the BRU flight:

Verspätete Ankunft and Betriebliche Verspätung? Whatever happened to Swiss time?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The driver turns his head, but drives on.

I wonder if it ever made it onto the correct flight.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Half a window with an obstructed view. And I studied that seat map so well for    out loud!

Some A.netters would choose that seat because they like being close and personal with the engines and love the sound of them.  

Now a very important question: is there a choice between milk and dark chocolate? I prefer dark.

Thanks for sharing.

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 3):
the very apt lyrics from Sound of Music!

But it was set in Austria.  


User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12390 times:
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Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
A very entertaining trip report.

Hello Roy & thanks!

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
Whatever happened to Swiss time?

The clocks were running OK, I compared with my radio-controlled watch   We originally would’ve gotten HB-JVF according to the airport website one day prior. Don’t know what happened, but the delay was only minor.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
I wonder if it ever made it onto the correct flight.

My guess it did.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
Some A.netters would choose that seat because they like being close and personal with the engines and love the sound of them.

Like me, but if I had known, I would’ve chosen at least 1 row forward.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
is there a choice between milk and dark chocolate?

Nope, milk it is.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
But it was set in Austria.

How right you are. But you mountains and goatherds in Swiss as well!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1194 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12150 times:

Hola Nils!

A great Trip Report: short hops but greatly explained.

The use of the Sound Of Music tunes for each flight is quite funny, you should have sung them to the crew, even ask them to use the microphone to entertain the fellow passengers, I am sure it would have been a great opportunity for them to feel more comfortable during turbulence.

LX delivers, as usual, a great service; the croissants look really nice and the sandwich on the last leg is something they should never cut out. Really tasty and nice of them to serve you as landing was announced in ten minutes. Those Fokkers feature a great legroom, I remember flying them to BUD and MXP and was really impressed with the generous legroom they had. Great machines!

LYS seems to be a nice destination and I am sure it deserves some extra-time, so I will add it to my list.

Salut!

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6643 posts, RR: 78
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12046 times:

Hi Nils,

great report about your "Swiss aviation mission", many nice pictures, I really enjoyed it. Too bad you missed Edelweiss - maybe next time?

Good to get an impression of Helvetic's F100. One of my upcoming itineraries includes one, hopefully it won't be replaced by something else.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):

Lately I have been suffering from light to medium flight deprivation due to (happy) family matters. Some weeks ago my wife and I had the privilege to welcome a new member to our family, a baby girl. As some of you may know, parental life is all about dedication and for some time now my only concerns are keeping the newborn happy, fed and dry and trying to have some decent amount of sleep for myself at night.

There are more important things than aviation!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
All on one ticket, for a grand total of € 236, or € 59/leg. For those that measure the ‘flight value’ by the price compared to the inflight length: I did the math for you and this day clocks off at € 0,87/min of flight. A bargain or not: I let you be the judge

If you need to get on all these airlines, it's a good deal.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 675 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11883 times:

Hi Nils,

great report with some very nice pictures, enjoyed it very much. A good idea to treat yourself to a nice day of flying.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
BRU-ZRH Edelweiss Air A320
ZRH-LYS-ZRH Swiss European Airlines Avro RJ100 (same aircraft return)
ZRH-BRU Helvetic Airways F100

A nice selection of carriers and plane types. Just too bad that you missed the Edelweiss airbus.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Quite a generous bagage allowance for Y class if you ask me:

Well, you can be sure that when Africans do travel it is mostly VFR traffic and they use all of the allowance.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Always nice to see the airshow operating on these short hops:

Yes, that's indeed nice, usually the second best inflight entertainment (the best one being the views outside of course). Was the airshow on the whole flight or did they also show some stupid commercials or shows like they do on some carriers?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Even a 2nd croissant is offered which I gladly accept.

Great service, well done by Swiss.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Yeah - rub it in will you! The exact plane that was supposed to take me here is now coming in from TXL.

What a shame, this is really a beautiful livery. But well, there you have a reason for another trip.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And of course this view is complemented with a cool drink.

Nice shot.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
We touch soil with the left side gear first and then the pilot turns the nose back in alignment with the runway and puts the right gear down as well, real gently. That’s top class craftmanship by the folks up front!

Well done by the pilots. Sounds like a crosswind landing straight from the text book.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And to my surprise, the price is reasonable as well.

A reasonable price??? Sure you have been in Switzerland ?   ...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Half a window with an obstructed view. And I studied that seat map so well for out loud!

Well, that's for sure the most interesting place in the Fokker. You have the full sound experience there.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Which do you like best?

Hmm, usually I prefer the liveries that are not just plain white on the fuselage, but in that case I like the new scheme better.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I ask for a flight deck shot which is met with a ‘sure, go ahead’. Nice bunch, these Helvetic people

Cool, always nice to get a cockpit visit, very nice by the crew. Actually the flight deck looks quite modern for a plane of this age.

CaptainRed


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11863 times:

Hoi Nils, great report!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This report has no affiliation whatsoever with The Jonas

But I suppose it does have some affiliation with a certain Jonas  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
All on one ticket, for a grand total of %u20AC 236, or %u20AC 59/leg. For those that measure the %u2018flight value%u2019 by the price compared to the inflight length: I did the math for you and this day clocks off at %u20AC 0,87/min of flight. A bargain or not: I let you be the judge

Hmm I'd still say that's quite steep given the short flight times, but that's just me.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Not that I have lots of time to drift off. The ride to BRU is quite busy and I elbow my way in between the queuing cars and lorries, that%u2019s the advantage - and danger - of a motorbike for you.

Now that's for sure the way to transfer to an airport, much better than being stuck at a traffic jam in an overpriced shuttle bus. You're surely a man who lives on the edge 
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
After a swift security screening I emerge out of the tunnel under the apron and meet up with all these people. The place is packed:

Oh my, now that place looks a lot more packed than during my visit. Is it usually that full?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Do you know which one goes to where?

Yes, the MD goes to CPH and B737 to OSL/ARN.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
So Swiss moves its crew around in the family apparently.

But did she wear a SWISS or Edelweiss uniform?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Thank U2:

No! Thank you SWISS 
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Service is drinks and drinks alone, some Coca of the Cola does fine by me. All served with a  

Nice to see them serve coke from those tiny cans, hope that'll be the norm on all SWISS flights.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Le péage:

And do you run by those at high speed on your two-wheeler? to avoid the charges i.e  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And to my surprise, the price is reasonable as well.

Please define reasonable? It's Switzerland we're talking about here.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Half a window with an obstructed view. And I studied that seat map so well for    out loud!

Oh my, didn't you learn anything from Fabrizio's report  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
We do get a tasty chicken sandwich and a drink of choice:

Now that looks very nice and tasty, generous as well. Well done SWISS!

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 611 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11853 times:

Great report Nils. Glad you got the opportunity to get away for a day. Too bad you couldn't get on the Edelweiss bird. I hate it when that happens...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This report is dedicated to my daughter.

How cute  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
it was about time to plan an ‘escape day’ of some sorts.

Don't we all need a "$100 hamburger" excuse every now and then?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This one’s for OA260:

A few years ago, dedicating an A3 photo to someone with an OA nickname would be somewhat weird. Not these days though 
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Landing on runway 14 is imminent now:

What, no snow? Like the FlyinFinn would say "It must be a faux photo".

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I like this colour scheme. For the pax inside, there was probably not much to like as this one was mighty late...

One of the best liveries out there for sure.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A closer look at the engine reveals a former paint job:

I loved the old livery but the new one is more fitting I think. I remember my second (pathetic) attempt at a TR featured a very magenta Helvetic Fokker...


Any more daytrip escapes planned anytime soon?

WideBodyroga



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2359 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11788 times:

Nice TR...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Already dreaming of my flight on that lovely Edelweiss plane, my mind wonders off and I come to think of an appropriate song:
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Little bits and things indicate this is a very 90’s aircraft. Actually this one dates back from 1996. I was in my early 20’s back then... that’s a looooong time ago lol!

The CORRECT song would have been "Starship Edelweiss" by Edelweiss -NJOY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Es_BCid2Qg&feature=related


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5012 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 11775 times:

Hey, Nils,

now that´s a well written story togetherwith nice pictures.
But nothing else expected. Good to see some stuff frem the missed Helvetic machine here, you know.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This report is dedicated to my daughter.

A very nice intro.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I arrive at gate A51 - the inbound is already there - and see my worst nightmare come true: that’s no Edelweiss plane! Bummer.

Ah, always these equipment changes.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
jacket with me today - I decide to skip for now. There most probably will be another a.net meet held here someday, no?

Count me and someone else in, you know. So we should fix a date soon.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
the purser.
All the way in the back is my seat, 20F but oh, shock horror, major mistake here!

19A for me, if ever possible.

Have a nice weekend,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



Next: Is there something new for the new countries?.
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11315 times:
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Thank you all for some more comments. It’s greatly appreciated!

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
Hola Nils!

Hola Roger, come estas?

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
A great Trip Report: short hops but greatly explained.

Thanks, I tried my best  

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
you should have sung them to the crew, even ask them to use the microphone to entertain the fellow passengers, I am sure it would have been a great opportunity for them to feel more comfortable during turbulence.

I really don’t think so  

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
Really tasty and nice of them to serve you as landing was announced in ten minutes.

You saw on their faces they were really struggling to serve everyone. Kudos to the 2 lady FA to make that happen, with a smile!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Hi Nils,

great report about your "Swiss aviation mission", many nice pictures, I really enjoyed it.

Thanks PH, glad you liked the story.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
maybe next time?

   Definitely.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
One of my upcoming itineraries includes one, hopefully it won't be replaced by something else.

You make me curious already, any clues to what route?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
There are more important things than aviation!

Yes indeed. And it’s due to these things and the fact that I’m not able to fly so much that I can fully appreciate a day away in the air. Heck I’m even happy with your standard A320 hop to anywhere!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):

Hi Nils,

great report with some very nice pictures, enjoyed it very much.

Hi CaptainRed, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):
Was the airshow on the whole flight or did they also show some stupid commercials or shows like they do on some carriers?

The airshow was not on the whole time, only on taking off and landing. For the rest: commercials on Swiss: service, new destinations,...

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):
What a shame, this is really a beautiful livery. But well, there you have a reason for another trip.

Beautiful livery and indeed reason for another trip, maybe to TXL (have to be fast then  )?

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):
A reasonable price??? Sure you have been in Switzerland ?

Very sure!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):
but in that case I like the new scheme better.

I’m with you on that one!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 10):
Actually the flight deck looks quite modern for a plane of this age.

Think so? I feel it looks rather... empty?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
Hoi Nils, great report!

Hoi Jonas, bedankt!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
But I suppose it does have some affiliation with a certain Jonas

Just a tiny little bit maybe  

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
You're surely a man who lives on the edge

No I’m really not. People are waiting for me to come home in 1 piece...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
Is it usually that full?

At times it can get quite crowdy yes, but there’s ample space and seating so no problem there.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
Yes, the MD goes to CPH and B737 to OSL/ARN.

The B737 to ARN.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
But did she wear a SWISS or Edelweiss uniform?

She wore a Swiss one of course. But I don’t know it Edelweiss has the same uniforms.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
And do you run by those at high speed on your two-wheeler?

No, I’m a model citizen: I stop and pay. And besides, motorbikes cannot pass without having to drive into the barrier! No room to pass...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 11):
Please define reasonable?

A price that even you would be willing to pay 

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 12):
Great report Nils.

Thanks Widebodyroga!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 12):
I hate it when that happens...

Me too, but I’m over it now  

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 12):
Don't we all need a "$100 hamburger" excuse every now and then?

We sometimes do but preferably anything better than a $ 100 hamburger please.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 12):
What, no snow?

No, even the Swiss can enjoy spring as well now!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 12):
a very magenta Helvetic Fokker...

*shiver*...

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 12):
Any more daytrip escapes planned anytime soon?

In a few days I fly back and forth to CPH and have a meet with user ‘makeree’ there.

Quoting debonair (Reply 13):
Nice TR...

Thanks!

Quoting debonair (Reply 13):
The CORRECT song would have been "Starship Edelweiss" by Edelweiss

Maybe so, but it doesn’t match my ‘Sound Of Music’ theme then  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
Hey, Nils,

now that´s a well written story togetherwith nice pictures.

Thanks Markus for reading and commenting.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
A very nice intro.

Danke...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
Ah, always these equipment changes.

Indeed and you had your fair share of that as well.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
So we should fix a date soon.

We really should do that yes.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
19A for me, if ever possible.

Good to know, the same for me please in the future.

Again, thanks all!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2430 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11030 times:

Hi Nils,

What a sweet dedication to your daughter   
And I love your disclaimer! 


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A bargain or not: I let you be the judge   

Nils, you deserved that little break.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
an appropriate song:

OMG, The Sound of Music! The first ever non Cartoon movie I was fond of during my childhood in Indonesia.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Quite a generous bagage allowance for Y class if you ask me:
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I kinda like the tail design:

Everything is nice on Vueling but A.net unfriendly attitude I sadly had to notice lately.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Do you know which one goes to where?

I just hope that MD would fly all the way to my hometown airport.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
You can call this a stylish plastic glass:

In a way that it found the way back to your home. 


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
An article on New Delhi however features some nice photos:

Please tell more about it!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
but he soon replies: ‘I sure will, see you next time’.

Cool!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Didn’t I warn you for the excessive use of white and red?

Sure, with a slightly blue.  


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I get dizzy from looking out the window. Those who know GVA airport will know what I mean.

Could you not find any gap at the door opening. I managed to find one when we were transferred to our EK flight in DXB last year.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I was in my early 20’s back then... that’s a looooong time ago lol!

Don’t you miss the good ol’time?  


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
That’s top class craftmanship by the folks up front!

Way to go!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
‘Bon vol et bonjour Monsieur’. ‘Le même à vous, Madame’, I reply.

Nils, my French teacher.  


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There most probably will be another a.net meet held here someday, no?

I do hope so! And please in summer time!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I feel sorry for the bag and am glad it’s not mine:

Who knew what might be inside? Precious glasswork?   


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
my seat can easily fit a sumo wrestler.

So, you are thinking of becoming one? 


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And no, no singing this time!

I will do it for you. The Pitbull way!

‘Now don’t …
stop….
drop it….
Pause…’



Thank you for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo



Friends forever
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10804 times:

Nice report Nils!
A good and decent performance as usual from our friends at Swiss!


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10704 times:

Hi Nils,

Good to have you flying around again. A very entertaining read on your quick trip to Lyon and back. As I mentioned earlier you definitely should've spent some more time there - Lyon is a great city (coming from someone who generally doesn't like France that much this is a great compliment!) and the food is amazing! But maybe next time, then you can fly the SN Brussels BRU-LYS service or something...

Shame about missing Edelweiss, but at least you got a ride with the Helvetic Fokker so all was not lost.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Some weeks ago my wife and I had the privilege to welcome a new member to our family, a baby girl.

Congratulations and all that, you know.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I was thinking about a day with only me myself and I and a(n) (some) airplane(s). You might call it ‘quality air time’

Hah, here goes Nils with the puns again! But yes, definitely some quality time there.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
So as to include both the Edelweiss and Helvetic in one day, I had to book for a Wednesday and that’s exactly what I did.

A very nice plan that one and a good idea to catch three carriers on a single LX ticket.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
All on one ticket, for a grand total of € 236, or € 59/leg. For those that measure the ‘flight value’ by the price compared to the inflight length: I did the math for you and this day clocks off at € 0,87/min of flight. A bargain or not: I let you be the judge  

Hmm, you seem to have taken some lessons in calculating value for money from Jonas?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
-- from ‘The Sound Of Music’ --

You know it is actually set in Austria?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
lady hands me over my 4 BP’s for the day.

Not even an raised eyebrow for the itinerary or the number of boarding passes? I remember once a SAS check in agent was very confused when the machine just kept spitting out boarding passes for me - I got all bps for a five stop day trip there on the spot  . The poor lass thought there was something wrong with the machine but I guess she didn't know me and my travel habits...  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Passing by the SN checkin counters, the most likely elaborate checkin for the flight to this exotic destination has just started. Quite a generous bagage allowance for Y class if you ask me:

Well knowing the amount of stuff that gets checked in for these kind of flights I'm sure they will still collect quite substantial overweight fees from people checking in their kitchen sinks.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I arrive at gate A51 - the inbound is already there - and see my worst nightmare come true: that’s no Edelweiss plane! Bummer.

Oh my, that's bad! Bugger indeed, but hey, think positively: now you have another excuse to book a new Swiss itinerary!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Boarding is called and I duly make my way into HB-IJR’s belly.

You checked yourself in as luggage? Now that is Jonas cheap!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Through the glass jetbridge I spot these titles on the neighbouring Austrian plane. I’ve never been here before, but hey, if it features mountains, it’ll be a nice place (right, Hannah?)

Hmm, Styrian Weinland... you are making me crave some crisp and excellent Grüner Veltliner right now and I only have beer in the fridge... damn you!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I ask her where my Edelweiss plane is and she says it has gone to TXL this morning.

Very nice of her to actually be aware of this kind of stuff - when similar things have happened to me most of the crews I've talked with have been more or less clueless about the situation and the fact that something abnormal has actually happened.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The captain checking what has to checked:

Or admiring Finnair next door?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
We do the pushback thing and this reveals a nice Nordic trio. Dedicated to our friends from up there. Do you know which one goes to where?

Well Finnair is quite obvious and the SAS Mad Dog is of course CPH. The 737 probably ARN, but if it has a Norwegian flag somewhere it is OSL instead.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Thank U2:

Err, I don't see any easyJet?  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Right next to a German winged bus:

Hah, nice one! Reminds me of a certain Finnish pseudo sci fi bus where people were flying around in "Airtrains"  .

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I tell him: ‘The same to you too and enjoy the flight to HAM!’ He gives me a puzzled look and probably thinks: how does he know, but he soon replies: ‘I sure will, see you next time’.

I love confusing people like that!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Didn’t I warn you for the excessive use of white and red?

Hah, a nice shot. The Swiss readers must feel very patriotic by this. I also like your title image, very classy even though that font is a bit too cartoony.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There are multiple ‘farm’ sections in ZRH. Here’s the ‘Avro RJ100 farm’, I like the way they are brotherly/sisterly parked together:

It doesn't rhyme, maybe "Avro Area" would be better? Or "Avro Apron", "Avro Appendix" or whatever.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And like in AMS: the ‘Fokker farm’, albeit in a small version:

Hah. Now where did you get that from?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
These gates feature a waiting area upstairs with ample views and seating:

...and a Camel (TM) smoking lounge!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The flight time is announced as 35 mins with some turbulence to be expected on arrival into LYS. The ‘some turbulence’ would be an understatement...

Wow, that is fast. I didn't realize LYS is so close to Switzerland.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
What follows are some view of Zürich, the city:

And of Zürich, the lake there as well!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Some mustard coloured colza fields. Will our aircraft ever fly on their seeds?

Well as long as I can spread the stuff on my wurst I'm perfectly happy!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
We touch soil with the left side gear first and then the pilot turns the nose back in alignment with the runway and puts the right gear down as well, real gently. That’s top class craftmanship by the folks up front!

Well, this is the reason they get paid a rather handsome sun for their expertise.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
LYS has no airside transfer possibility, therefore I exit through the bagage claim area:

I guess you mean this terminal doesn't, the AF one certainly does as there's quite an interesting mini hub operation going on there.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A crew change has taken place, a young male and female FA this time, both biz friendly to say the least (and most). I take the same seat, 21A in the back, commenting to the FA: ‘It’s still warm (the seat that is)’. She replies with ‘Yes, the inbound pax left the plane not so long ago’. Yeah - I know  

Oh dear, that is bad! You couldn't surprise them by coming back and using up one of the catchy one liners you certainly must've been practicing for this special occasion! I certainly do. And have done it far too many times actually  .

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Le péage:

Lé tollbooth.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
We come to a cruise and the crew duly performs their drill which is serving the thirsty:

Well there's the choc as well for the sweet hungry!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
What’s inside this trolley? Hmm, let’s see:

Where's the beer??

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Not much has changed weather wise: murky views outside, now also on descent and approach into the Zürich area. I do manage to get a shot of this power plant:

Nice! I like power plants, especially the nuclear kind.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Ha, there it is. Entry is ‘pay per visit’, I guess to cover the costs of the x-ray screening involved? At least the viewing and photographing opportunities seem good. No obstructions or high fences whatsoever.

Did the aviation store that used to be in the old observation area move here as well?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Suddenly one of those bagage transporters races past. A suitcase flies off one of the carts. The driver turns his head, but drives on. A Cobus, following him, does a near hit with the fallen case but the driver doesn’t stop. Some minutes later, someone stops and picks up the bag. I feel sorry for the bag and am glad it’s not mine:

Now that is bad and something I'd definitely not expect to happen in Switzerland of all places! In Italy or France sure, but not in Switzerland where obsession for doing everything properly and by the book is the norm.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The bus drives off to the ‘Avro farm’, but there’s not a single Avro to see. My smile becomes brighter as we make a halt:

Congratulations, a nice catch! Those Fokkers are getting rare, so good to fly them while they are still around.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Half a window with an obstructed view. And I studied that seat map so well for    out loud!

"Out Loud" is a very suitable expression for this seat next to that engine  .

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Which do you like best?

The old pink one. The new one is far too businesslike and boring.


User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1194 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10649 times:

Hi Nils

Firstly, a lovely dedication - I hope everything is going well for you all!

A nice escape for you on Swiss though. I very much enjoyed this latest report from you. It brought back memories of the Sing a Long a Sound of Music that I went to dressed as one of the Alps in Leicester Square a few years back. Needless to say, we won the fancy dress competition for that evening.... !!!

Sorry to hear that the Edelweiss 320 was substituted. Bugger.

I did not realise traffic was so busy at LYS.

Nice to see you got the F100 though. I still need to do another F100 before they all go.

Great stuff and thanks again - Palmjet



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10295 times:
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Hello again, many thanks for the additional comments! Keep ‘em coming  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Hi Nils,

What a sweet dedication to your daughter

Hello Suryo, thanks for reading. And yes, my sweet daughter deserved this sweet dedication.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Nils, you deserved that little break.

That’s what I thought my myself 

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Everything is nice on Vueling but A.net unfriendly attitude I sadly had to notice lately.

I haven’t had the chance to sample some Vueling, so I will remain neutral for now.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
I just hope that MD would fly all the way to my hometown airport.

And your hometown is again...?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Please tell more about it!

A nice article and nice photos on the contrast between rich and poor in this bustling metropolis.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
Could you not find any gap at the door opening.

Not a single one, but it’s also difficult taking photos in a bus full of people.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 16):
So, you are thinking of becoming one?

No, not really... Are you?

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 17):
Nice report Nils!

Thanks Robert.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Hi Nils,

Good to have you flying around again.

Hi Petteri, thanks heaps for your lengthy reply, it’s heartwarming  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Lyon is a great city

I know, I’ve been there quite a few times since a friend lives there. But that was by car everytime.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Congratulations and all that, you know.

Thanks again.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Hmm, you seem to have taken some lessons in calculating value for money from Jonas?

I wanted to be ahead of him actually  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
You know it is actually set in Austria?

I know, but the ‘edelweiss’ is more a Swiss thing and that’s what set this ‘Sound Of Music’ thing off really.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Not even an raised eyebrow for the itinerary or the number of boarding passes?

Not even that, I think she found it all a natural thing. Or perhaps there’s nearly everyday some lunatic passing by who presents this kind of itinerary?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
now you have another excuse to book a new Swiss itinerary!

I have now. I’ll talk to the wife soon  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
You checked yourself in as luggage? Now that is Jonas cheap!

Let me rephrase that: ‘I duly made wy way into the nice looking cabin’.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
The 737 probably ARN

Indeed to ARN.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Reminds me of a certain Finnish pseudo sci fi bus where people were flying around in "Airtrains"

Tell me about that!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
I also like your title image, very classy even though that font is a bit too cartoony.

Yeah - I know. But the colours are also bright and cartoony-esque, so in a way it fits.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
It doesn't rhyme, maybe "Avro Area" would be better? Or "Avro Apron", "Avro Appendix" or whatever.

Those don’t rhyme either my friend...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Now where did you get that from?

Sorry, stole it from you 

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
...and a Camel (TM) smoking lounge!

Yes, quite a disgusting place. Don’t all these people feel silly, smoking their lungs out, it all just looks like some aquarium.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
I guess you mean this terminal doesn't, the AF one certainly does as there's quite an interesting mini hub operation going on there.

I did not know that about the AF terminal.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Where's the beer??

Yes, where is it? Probably in another trolley or secretly hidden away somewhere.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Nice! I like power plants, especially the nuclear kind.

I especially took this pic for you and PH.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Did the aviation store that used to be in the old observation area move here as well?

I really don’t know...

Quoting palmjet (Reply 19):
Hi Nils

Hi palmjet!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 19):
Firstly, a lovely dedication - I hope everything is going well for you all!

Thanks, we are all fine  

Quoting palmjet (Reply 19):
It brought back memories of the Sing a Long a Sound of Music that I went to dressed as one of the Alps in Leicester Square a few years back.

Hmm, no photos of that somewhere 

Quoting palmjet (Reply 19):
I did not realise traffic was so busy at LYS.

AF, yes, the rest, hmmm...

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2204 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10278 times:

Hi Nils,

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
If you happen to have an allergy to this colour combo, please stop reading, you might go in shock...

No, I was raised in red-white (my grandfather was a Dinamo Bucuresti fan)  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Lately I have been suffering from light to medium flight deprivation due to (happy) family matters. Some weeks ago my wife and I had the privilege to welcome a new member to our family, a baby girl. As some of you may know, parental life is all about dedication and for some time now my only concerns are keeping the newborn happy, fed and dry and trying to have some decent amount of sleep for myself at night.

Well, congratulations!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I arrive at gate A51 - the inbound is already there - and see my worst nightmare come true: that’s no Edelweiss plane! Bummer.

Yes, well, I can always sense the aircraft substitution well ahead of time.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
What spies me eyes? I do hope this one’s still on schedule this evening...

Lucky for you, it was... Still hunting for a F100... Hopefully OS/VO won't let me down.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
On a positive note: ZRH has excellent spotting opportunites throughout the whole terminal!

ZRH looks good... I might want to get there, sooner or later...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There are multiple ‘farm’ sections in ZRH. Here’s the ‘Avro RJ100 farm’, I like the way they are brotherly/sisterly parked together:



And like in AMS: the ‘Fokker farm’, albeit in a small version:

I hope there will be more of these rare aircraft type farms. It seems that nowadays it's all A320... maybe 737... farms.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Quite some rollerboards are tagged ‘delivery at aircraft’. Yeah - these aircraft’s overhead bin capacity is quite limited

Yeah, well, this is the A/C type that introduced me to gate checking bags. Well, actually, it was a BAe-146 I think...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I don’t have much time to look around, because my return flight to ZRH will be boarding soon. Security is a breeze and the French folks on duty there seem to enjoy their job: they are all friendliness and smiles. Well done LYS!

Not like CDG, then?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A crew change has taken place, a young male and female FA this time, both biz friendly to say the least (and most). I take the same seat, 21A in the back, commenting to the FA: ‘It’s still warm (the seat that is)’. She replies with ‘Yes, the inbound pax left the plane not so long ago’. Yeah - I know  

Hehe. Well, they did change the crew, no way of knowing.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The bus drives off to the ‘Avro farm’, but there’s not a single Avro to see. My smile becomes brighter as we make a halt:



Happy and excited as a kid I am, it makes me want to sing out loud!

Got the little Fokker in sight!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Which do you like best?

Red/White separately, please... Pink is my least favorite color.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
e dock into one of the A gates, I believe it’s the same one that we used this morning. I ask for a flight deck shot which is met with a ‘sure, go ahead’. Nice bunch, these Helvetic people  

Good ending to the journey!


Thanks for taking the time to write everything up, Nils, it's much appreciated!


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1693 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10219 times:

Hi Nils

First of all congratulations on becoming a father! That's very cool. The sleep deprivation gets better as they grow up, not so sure about flight deprivation though!

In any case, thanks for the report. It's always interesting to see a report about one's home carrier/home airport. Those pictures you took are excellent, by the way. they're so crisp and sharp!

It's also interesting to see SWISS sending Helvetic to Brussels. I thought they only send them to places like Venice, Prag, Budapest etc.

Well, thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
William


User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1576 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10194 times:
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Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
Hi Nils,

Hi Alex, thanks for commenting.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
Well, congratulations!

Thanks again  

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
I can always sense the aircraft substitution well ahead of time.

Can you? Do you have a crystal ball that I might use maybe  

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
Hopefully OS/VO won't let me down.

Oh, tell me more?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
Not like CDG, then?

No, although I don’t have much experience on CDG, been there only once and had a good impression.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 21):
Thanks for taking the time to write everything up, Nils, it's much appreciated!

No problem, the pleasure was mine.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 22):
Hi Nils

First of all congratulations on becoming a father!

Hi William, thanks for reading! And yes, father for the 2nd time, I (we) already have a 2,5y old son  

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 22):
The sleep deprivation gets better as they grow up, not so sure about flight deprivation though!

I know for the former and I will make sure the latter doesn’t happen too often!

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 22):
Those pictures you took are excellent, by the way. they're so crisp and sharp!

Thanks, good weather really helps to that.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently onlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2204 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10101 times:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Can you? Do you have a crystal ball that I might use maybe  

Hmmm... Maybe a snowglobe?   It's very useful for flight tracking!

Actually I haven't had that much experience with equipment swaps--but last time I got a $300 voucher from DL so it's OK... I have a sixth sense, but it's useless because it doesn't tell me anything too much in advance.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Oh, tell me more?

Well, I'll fly the OSL-VIE segment on a F100 in mid-July. So far it's looking good, only 1 swap to a 319 on that flight since the start of summer season.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
No, although I don’t have much experience on CDG, been there only once and had a good impression.

Hehe. Well, it's probably better this way.


25 Post contains images flightsimboy : Hello Nils, Congratulations!! That is very sweet. May she become a little flyer soon I love anything Swiss...and honestly I did not go into shock!! Wh
26 Post contains images Sultanils : I guess that $ 300 voucher surely wasn’t for a change in equipment, I’d be rich by now Hello flightsimboy, thanks for your reply! Thanks again I
27 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi Nils, Very nice report, an enjoyable read with many nice pictures Congrats! That's too bad A nice mix of destinations on the FIDS there Good catch!
28 Post contains images signol : Hi Nils, excellently done! Nice day trip. Price wise, perhaps more than some of our Swedish colleagues would like, but then Swiss do command a premium
29 Post contains images PlaneHunter : It'll be BHX-ZRH. PH
30 Post contains images Sultanils : Hello Brendan, thanks for leaving a comment! Thanks again! Hello signol and yes, a nice daytrip it was! In my books, I thought the price was ‘accep
31 LXM83 : Hello Sultanils Great report of a nice day of flying! Sorry you couldn't catch three Swiss based carriers in one day. Definitely the magenta one! Best
32 Post contains images 717Flyer : Howdy Nils , Enjoyable, well-written and just great! My attempt to describe your report with three words failed but that is because it waked up so man
33 Post contains images deltamartin : Hello Nils! Again a very nice report! A really enjoyable read about your traveling with a couple of airlines from the land of chocolate! Looks like Sw
34 Post contains images volvair : Hi Nils, great to read from you again after your hiatus from the skies! I am finally catching up on some TRs and you're up first as I'll be moving to
35 Post contains images Sultanils : Hi folks, I’m delighted to read some more comments, keep sending ‘em in Howdy to you as well 717Flyer! Thanks and well, I’m glad I made your Sat
36 AlwaysOnAPlane : Good day to you Nils. Good to read that you had a nice day out SWISS style. Too bad to miss Edelweiss but as you say "something for the next mission".
37 Post contains images sultanils : Hi there Lee, good day to U2. With the delay announced I thought that was it, but luckily, Helvetic managed to save my day. No worries and I keep you
38 Post contains images win1290 : Hi Nils, Thanks for the very nice trip report with lots of nice photos, enjoyed reading it Congratulation! Regards, Win
39 Post contains images Sultanils : Hi Win(ner), I'm glad you liked it! Thanks again Sultanils
40 Post contains images Parton87 : Hello Nils! Thanks for the great story. Nice too see you back! To begin with, sorry for the late reply, I´ve been busy the latest time. Not with kids
41 Post contains images Sultanils : Hi Robert, thanks for your reply! No problem, it's good 'to be back' although I've never been away ha ha ha! No worries at all Thanks again! Ha ha, I
42 Post contains images infodesk : Hi Nils, I just had to catch up on your report. Such a shame that you missed Edelweiss, but a good excuse I guess to try again and hopefully I won't b
43 Post contains images CrimsonNL : Hi Niels! Nice report! Sorry to hear you missed Edelweiss, but the Avro and Fokker do make up for some of it I suppose. I would like to try the AR1 my
44 Post contains images Sultanils : Congratulations and celebrations and all of that Hello Hannah, thanks for reading my report! I'm quite curious what you will show us from your voyage
45 Post contains images infodesk : Hi Nils, Just a couple of answers to your questions : Nope, AF for a change, from BSL. Wow, I never knew that you were into rock climbing, how interes
46 Post contains images stipica : Hi Nils ! cleaning backlog ... nice ,readable and very entertaining ... hehheh hihiihi hahahaha is constant during the process ... I didn't knew you a
47 Post contains images Sultanils : Hello Stipica! Thanks my friend I have my moments Sultanils
48 The777Man : Hi Nils ! Very nice report with nice pictures from your day out flying! LX looks great as always; after two flights with them last week they are now m
49 Post contains images sultanils : Hi Lars, thanks and nice to hear from you. Are they, that's good to hear. A shame they don't fly the T7 of course Yep, bonus points for that at least
50 The777Man : Yes, that's really too bad! The777Man
51 Post contains images akhmad : Semarang with its spotter friendly Ahmad Yani International Airport. I would rather be a trip reporter.
52 Post contains images sultanils : Oh, I thought it was Akhmad Yani International (Sorry, I had too...) Sultanils
53 Post contains links and images akhmad : No! It is Ahmad Yani International. Just take a look!
54 eastafspot : Hey Nils, Very nice report on a day trip, good that everything went fine. Jeez, when you see how they treat the luggages during loading/unloading, tha
55 Post contains images sultanils : Too bad Suryo. If only it was named Akhmad, that would be great stuff! Hello Léonard, thank your for your comments and I'm glad you liked this repor
56 Post contains images akhmad : Do you mean something like Suryo Akhmad International Airport?
57 Post contains images sultanils : Sultanils
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