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India's Finest? BKK-BOM-LHR, Jet Airways 738 & 77W  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 30477 times:




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Background
I early 2011 my friend Satchmo and I decided to go on a spotting trip to Asia in late October. We had been planning to visit Singapore and Kuala Lumpur from the very beginning and focused on getting on Qantas' A380 between LHR and SIN. I had flown Qantas before, but I wanted to increase the number of A380 carriers in my log to five. At a later date, we also decided to include Jakarta where we had never been before. Of course we tried to get as many new airlines and interesting types as possible and it took a while to create an exciting itinerary. Finally, we booked 10 flights operated by 8 different carriers (including four new ones) and reserved hotel rooms in Singapore (one night), Kuala Lumpur (one night), Jakarta (two nights) and Bangkok (one night). We exclusively combined one-way flights and one-way combos, so we had eight different flight reservations in the end. Here's what the preliminary itinerary looked like:

Munich-London
London-Singapore
Singapore-Kuala Lumpur
Kuala Lumpur-Jakarta
Jakarta-Singapore
Singapore-Phuket
Phuket-Bangkok
Bangkok-Mumbai
Mumbai-London
London-Munich


While Satchmo was planning to use our entire time at Jakarta for taking pictures, I decided to squeeze in a domestic day trip. I found an interesting combo on two new carriers and added three more flights:

Jakarta-Semarang
Semarang-Surabaya
Surabaya-Jakarta


Now I was looking forward to 13 flights on 10 different carriers - including 6 new ones - and 4 widebodies. At that point of time I couldn't imagine that I would end up on 14 flights, 7 new airlines and 5 widebodies.


Parts I, II, III and IV can be found here:
QF A380 Grounded, Bags Lost - LHR-SIN, TK A330/340 (by PlaneHunter Jan 30 2012 in Trip Reports)
Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W (by PlaneHunter Feb 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739 (by PlaneHunter Mar 7 2012 in Trip Reports)
3x Asian Quality: CGK-SIN-HKT-BKK On GA, FD & PG (by PlaneHunter Mar 27 2012 in Trip Reports)



Queen's Garden Resort & Suvarnabhumi Spotting
After our arrival from Phuket, we took the hotel shuttle to the Queen's Garden Resort located five minutes from the airport. Even though we had read numerous negative reports about the hotel, we decided to stay there because the rooftop is excellent for spotting (depending on the approach direction, though). After checking in at a kind of reception area next to the main building's entrance, it turned out that our room was located in another building some 200 meters away. The shuttle driver brought us there and showed us the room. Unfortunately, the simple building wasn't equipped with an elevator, so we had to climb the stairs with our luggage. The room was small and simple and the heat in there was horrible. Before being able to do anything else, we had to cool down the room.

We had planned to switch off the air conditioning device at night, but that turned out to be a bad idea. Temperatures went up quickly, so we had to switch it on again. In order to avoid the cool air being blown at us all the time (I had already been sick), we had to rearrange the furniture in the room which made lots of noise. We didn't hear any complaints, fortunately.

On the next morning, we went to the main building for breakfast which wasn't great either. This is the main building's front side:



There's the other building were our room was located, seen from the main building's rooftop:



Nice traditional roofs and rail station in the background:



The water level was high, but not threatening in this part of the city:





Sandbags had been prepared for the worst case:



This is the entrance of our hotel building:



Our room's balcony:



Neighborhood:





ATC tower:



No, this is not the hotel's pool area:



Trees under water:



Unfortunately, the planes were approaching from the wrong side on that day. All we could see from the hotel's rooftop were departing aircraft - too high up in the sky. It was possible to read the registrations in most cases, but I wasn't feeling good enough and decided to stay in the room in order to rest. I could see some planes from the balcony and could even log some registrations - but certainly not as many as I had been hoping for.

Satchmo met a spotter from Sweden at the hotel and they decided to explore the airport's surroundings together. They were successful and took many nice pictures during the course of the day. Here are some examples:

EVA Air Boeing 777-35EER B-16709:

Picture by Satchmo


Nordwind Airlines Boeing 767-306ER VQ-BMQ - users MSS658 and Lufthansa747 once flew on that bird when it was still operating for KLM as PH-BZE:

Picture by Satchmo


EgyptAir Boeing 777-36NER SU-GDR:

Picture by Satchmo


Royal Brunei Airlines Boeing 777-212ER V8-BLF - user Econojetter took a flight on that plane when it was still operating for Singapore Airlines as 9V-SVD:

Picture by Satchmo


Thai Airways A340-541 HS-TLA, named "Chiang Kham" :

Picture by Satchmo

HS-TLA operated the airline's first commercial A340-500 flight from Bangkok to Phuket in April 2005 and guess who was on board? User Lufthansa747. Airpearl flew on that plane several times, too.

Nok Air Boeing 737-4M0 HS-DDQ, named "Nok Kiwi":

Picture by Satchmo


Last but not least - Thai AirAsia A320-216 HS-ABD in "Truly ASEAN" colors which had flown us from Singapore to Phuket on the day before:

Picture by Satchmo





Friday, November 2011
Bangkok (BKK) - Mumbai (BOM)
Jet Airways 9W067
Scheduled times: 20:55-00:10
Actual times: 20:52-00:02
Flight duration: 04:07 (hrs)
Distance: 1885 miles
Economy Class, seat 31C

Boeing 737-85R
VT-JGW (s/n 2297)
Delivered in 06/2007


1st flight on VT-JGW
26th 737-800 flight
37th 737 NG flight
65th 737 flight
130th airline



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About three hours before departure, we took the hotel shuttle to the airport. Even though the hotel is nothing to write home about, it offers free Wi-Fi, so we had been able to check in online for our flights on the evening before. And of course we had been happy that 61H and 61K in the last row were still available on the 777 - it's interesting to note that there are only two 2-seat rows on the plane. On the 737 flight, we chose 31C and 31D in the last row - two opposing aisle seats. The check-in process at the airport was fast and efficient, only few people were waiting in queue when we arrived there.

9W067 to Mumbai was also operating as SN4138:

Picture by Satchmo


Impressive artwork and flowers in the check-in hall:

Picture by Satchmo


Clearing passport control and passing security didn't take very long either on that evening. Spotting was impossible due to the window layout...

Picture by Satchmo

...so we went to a restaurant and enjoyed some Thai food.

When we arrived at the gate about an hour before departure, it took a while to identify the plane. All you can see on that picture is the 737's nose, unfortunately:


The plane turned out to be Boeing 737-85R VT-JGW, delivered in June 2007. It's one of 46 frames in the fleet - 49 more 738s are on order.

Very friendly and smiling flight attendants (females wearing pretty yellow uniform jackets) welcomed us on board. The cabin was in good condition and had been cleaned well. Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

Picture by Satchmo


I was glad that VT-JGW was a frame with PTVs, the location of the IFE box didn't bother me at all:


While boarding was continuing, I briefly talked to a male flight attendant and expressed my happiness over getting a 737 with PTVs. He smiled and said: "Yes, it's one of the newer ones."

Legroom was absolutely sufficient:


According to SeatGuru, you find a pitch of 31 and 32 inches on the carriers' 737-800s. Allegedly, it's always 31 inches in the last row, but I had no reason to complain.

It turned out to be a good decision to choose aisle seats because the flight was packed - I didn't see an empty seat in Economy Class. What I didn't like was the cool temperature in the cabin and I pointed that out to a pretty female flight attendant. "It will get warmer later", she promised with a smile.

Headphones had already been placed in the seat pockets:



Safety card and JetWings inflight magazine (including IFE guide):



It's not a PTV, it's a JetScreen:



Cold (!) towels were distributed with a smile and after the captain had made a welcome speech and announced a flying time of 4 hours, we were pushed back ahead of schedule. Comic-style safety video:



10 minutes after pushback, VT-JGW powerfully took off into the night sky. I soon started exploring the touchscreen control audio/video on-demand IFE system. Here's the main menu:


The JetScreen system on the 737s offers a choice between 40 movies, 68 TV features, 11 games, numerous audio channels and a wide range of music CDs. That's what I preferred:



No turbulence over the Bay of Bengal this time:

Picture by Satchmo

The four flight attendants in Economy Class soon started serving dinner, but they didn't arrive at our row less than an hour after takeoff. This was not surprising, because call buttons were being pressed all the time which kept these poor flight attendants extremely busy while serving meals. I hadn't seen so many "special requests" on a flight before. However, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request. And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing!  thumbsup 

Anyway, the pretty female flight attendant finally showed up, had a look at a list and said: "Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?" Of course I was very surprised about that. Satchmo wasn't addressed by name, btw. The flight attendant offered chicken and a vegetarian meal and I ordered the former:


The Thai-style main course tasted very good - tender meat, crisp vegetables, well-cooked rice. I also liked the yogurt, but the cake was too sweet. I'm not a fan of cold red beans, but they were okay with salad dressing.

Satchmo ordered chicken as well, but he got an Indian-style main course which he liked a lot:

Picture by Satchmo

As far as I can remember, the Indian-style meal wasn't offered to me - and Satchmo cannot remember either if he had a choice between an Indian and a Thai chicken dish. So who knows?

After dinner trays had been collected, I tried to get some rest. Time passed quickly actually. Almost there:

Picture by Satchmo


We touched down after a flying time of 4 hours and 7 minutes and came to rest at a remote parking position slightly ahead of schedule. Taking pictures at Indian airports is strictly forbidden, but Satchmo was being discrete:

Picture by Satchmo

Even though we got a bus tour across the tarmac which was full of interesting planes, it was impossible for me to log a single registration due to my position in that crowded vehicle.  thumbsdown 


Transfer at Mumbai
All transfer passengers had to pass an extended security check after arriving at the Terminal 2 building. Men and women had to line up separately in that dull area, characterized by a low ceiling and sterile concrete walls. Our queue moved slowly and we were stuck there for nearly 30 minutes. Officers with grim faces additionally checked all travelers with hand scanners after they had passed the metal detector. Many bags were hand inspected, but ours were left out. We finally arrived in the transit area which looked nicer than the area near the security checkpoints. However, you cannot get access to the gates and you cannot see anything outside. There wasn't much to do, so we kept reading during the next two hours.

[Edited 2012-05-18 23:50:51]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 30972 times:


Saturday, November 2011
Mumbai (BOM) - London (LHR)
Jet Airways 9W120
Scheduled times: 02:35-07:00
Actual times: 02:43-07:11
Flight duration: 09:34 (hrs)
Distance: 4487 miles
Economy Class, seat 61K

Boeing 777-35RER
VT-JEG (s/n 675)
Delivered in 11/2007


1st flight on VT-JEG
7th 777-300ER flight
31st 777 flight



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Temporary appearance in 2009 (leased out to Gulf Air):


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After boarding had been announced, we joined a long queue and had to wait once again. Boarding passes were checked twice by different ground staff members before we were able to enter the jetbridge. Then two grim-faced security staff members in suits stopped us again. They checked our documents, ticked off our names from a list and added stickers to our passports. Two other passengers seemed to be in trouble because of an alleged lack of certain documents. They started discussing with the security people, but those just grumbled: "We have to wait for permission from the UK."

Anyway, we could finally proceed to the aircraft which turned out to be VT-JEG, delivered factory fresh in late 2007. It was not possible to take a picture of the plane due to a lack of windows - but I guess we wouldn't have tried even if we had been able to.

Very friendly flight attendants kept welcoming us on the way to the last row. I immediately liked the interior which was in good condition and had been cleaned well. The 18.5-inch wide seats were very comfortable...



...and equipped with large IFE screens:





The 32-inch pitch was absolutely sufficient for the next 10 hours, the IFE box didn't bother me much:


No, I hadn't played around with the cup holder - it had already been broken.  Wink


Most seats were taken on that day's flight 9W120:

Picture by Satchmo


Nice wooden floor in the rear galley:

Picture by Satchmo


Welcome screen:

Picture by Satchmo


A different JetWings magazine and the JetBoutique shopping guide:



Fleet information:



10 777s? Yes, in good old times. The active 777 fleet consists of only 5 frames. Did you listen, 9W?



The captain made a welcome speech and announced a flying time of 9 hours and 5 minutes. Wet towels with signs of wear were distributed, but those were cold again just like on the BKK-BOM flight.

VT-JEG was pushed back 8 minutes behind schedule and soon climbed out into the night sky after a powerful takeoff roll. More than an hour after departure, the flight attendants served a hot snack - a spicy vegetarian pastry roll filled with vegetables and tofu, accompanied by a sweet curd roll. The former tasted very good - the latter didn't really meet my taste:


After I had finished my ginger ale (no Schweppes, unfortunately), a friendly male flight attendant asked if I wanted another one. I agreed and he quickly delivered. Very attentive service!  thumbsup 

Now it was time to explore the enhanced JetScreen system on the 777. I found all options again which had been offered on the 737, but there were almost 120 movies instead of 40 as well as some other features. Even though Jet Airways doesn't fly to Germany, more than 20 movies were available in German which is quite impressive. Main menu (picture taken before takeoff):



An exclusive feature on the carriers' widebodies is the opportunity to send and receive SMS and emails:



Awards and laurels...Jet Airways certainly deserves to be praised:



Ah, Qantas in the news again...  thumbsdown 



Then I switched to my favorite IFE feature:








After a route change, we flew straight over Dubai and I could see the brightly illuminated Palm Jumeirah - too bad it was not possible to take a decent picture.

Cabin in almost complete darkness:



Lavatory amenities:


Due to a lack of drink runs, I went to the galley in the middle of the night in order to get some tea for Satchmo and me. One of the friendly male flight attendants sprung into action and told me that it wasn't necessary to wait. "I will bring it to your seat", he said. Another example of good service!  thumbsup 

Very nice reading light - much better than the bright ones installed overhead:



Which city is that?

Picture by Satchmo


Hard to tell...

Picture by Satchmo


Alright, it must have been Bucharest:



Shortly before breakfast, a nice light show was provided. Within a few minutes, the mood lighting changed from dark blue to bright orange:



Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


There was a choice between a vegetarian and a non-vegetarian option and I opted for the latter:



Picture by Satchmo

Omelette, Indian-style potato and meat pancake, shredded potatoes, croissant and fresh fruit - everything tasted very good. And I also liked the tea. I can only praise Jet Airways for serving such a big and tasty breakfast.  thumbsup 

Beautiful sunrise:

Picture by Satchmo


The mood lighting changed to light purple after breakfast:

Picture by Satchmo


After descent had commenced, the captain gave a farewell message and pointed out that we would be stuck in a holding pattern for a while. "But we will still arrive on time", he promised. We didn't mind about that and enjoyed the views:

Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


That gives an idea of our final routing:

Picture by Satchmo


Finally, we were cleared to land and dived into thick fog so that we couldn't even see the wingtip any more. The visibility was really bad and the ground came into view rather late on final approach. However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!  thumbsup   thumbsup   thumbsup 
While climbing out again, the captain made an announcement, but we couldn't understand anything due to the engine noise. The question was whether the pilots had aborted landing due to low visibility or due to traffic on the runway. We already started wondering where we would have to divert to in case of another landing abortion, but a few minutes later we finally touched down and taxied to our Terminal 4 gate where we arrived 11 minutes behind schedule. We asked a flight attendant about the go-around and he explained that another aircraft hadn't left the runway yet.

It was a pleasure, Jet Airways:

Picture by Satchmo


Business Class seat:

Picture by Satchmo


All I still needed was an exterior picture of our plane. Delta's 767-432ER N828MH was blocking the view:



Slowly getting better...



...mission accomplished:


The waiting time at passport control was acceptable and after grabbing our luggage, we went straight to Terminal 5 where our (separately booked) British Airways flight to Munich would depart from in the afternoon. We mostly killed the time by spotting and finally boarded A319 G-EUOD which was a new registration for me.



Conclusion
Flying Jet Airways was a great pleasure. Both the 737 and the 777 were in good shape and equipped with comfortable seats and modern and convenient IFE systems. All ground staff and flight crew members were very friendly and service-orientated, the catering was very good both in terms of quality and quantity. Jet Airways calls itself "India's finest international airline" - well, I haven't flown on other Indian carriers yet, but I can confirm that Jet Airways is among the finest airlines I have tried - and it's definitely more reliable than the country's big state carrier.

Despite the chaotic and stressful start, the trip was a very exciting, enjoyable and successful one. I flew on 7 new airlines, visited 5 new airports and logged a total of 349 new registrations. Qantas paid for all additional expenses caused by the fleet grounding, paid a compensation of €600 (EU regulations) and sent me a voucher worth €190 which I used just recently for a new and successful attempt to get on the carrier's A380.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
3x Asian Quality: CGK-SIN-HKT-BKK On GA, FD & PG
Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739
Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
QF A380 Grounded, Bags Lost - LHR-SIN, TK A330/340
Type Downgrade, Class Upgrade: EgyptAir Business
Long-Haul Cabin On A 737: MUC-CAI On PrivatAir
1 Day, 2 Highlights: Big A.net Meeting & LAN A340
Imperfect Giant: CPT-JNB-FRA On SA A332 & LH A380
BA Vs. LCC, African Way: JNB-DUR-CPT, Comair/Mango
Africa's Best Airline? FRA-JNB On SAA A340-600
Fuel Dump & Return To CDG: Enroute To LAX On 9/11
Greek Quality: Aegean, Olympic & Istanbul Spotting
Exploring A Virgin: VS A343/A346 & Dubai Delights
Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Grand Canyon & More: Scenic Flight On Dornier 228
San Francisco Sunshine...and A Frontier Fiasco
Fully Flat Bed to SFO: SWISS' New Business Class
Mountains, Meals & More: SunExpress Vs. Pegasus
Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Bad Weather & Other Bad Luck: Touring New Zealand
Trans-Tasman Treat: Aerolineas Argentinas A340-200
Detours To Sydney: Wildlife, Tiger, REX & QFLink
Thai Fails To Impress: MUC-BKK-BNE On 744 & 777
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Fifth Freedom Tidbit: Kuwait Airways A300-600
Ship Vs. Plane: Porto Santo Line & Sata Air Açores
Awesome Approach, Splendid Scenery: LIS, FNC & TAP
Guernsey, Ash Cloud Alarm & Mostly Empty SQ 77Ws
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380
Cirrus D38, Adria CRJ & Captain Niki Lauda On Duty
Monarch Hot Meal, E195 & More: PMI-ALC-MAN-MUC
Premium Meal & Palma Spotting: MUC-PMI, DE 757-300
The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332
Cancellation Brings Joy: HKG-PEK on Dragonair A330
A380 Cacophony, 777 Star Livery: DXB-SIN-HKG on SQ
The Next 5* Carrier? MUC-MCT-DXB, Oman Air A330
Turkey For 1.5 Hrs: Daytrip To AYT On Sky Airlines
CO Scores Again: ATL-IAH-EWR-FRA On ERJ, 752 & 764
Riding The Ultra Long-Haul Twin: Delta 777-200LR
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog
The Ultimate 737: LHR-IAH-PDX On CO 777 & 739ER
Bye Bye, Hell! TRD-OSL-TXL-NUE - DY/AB/HE DH4
My Trip To Hell: NUE-CPH-OSL-TRD On Cimber & SAS
SFO-YUL-FRA: Map- & Sleepless On Air Canada's 77W
Sin City Gloss & Virgin America's Chic First Class
Seat Dilemma & Canyon Glamour: FRA To LAX, AC 763
On Par With Air France? DTW-AMS-MUC, KLM A330
Goodbye, Red Tails! DC-9-40/50 & Chicago Tour
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL
"Mission A380": Disappointing Legs On BA/BD/EI
Delights Of Doha, 773 & 77W: DOH-DXB-LHR On EK
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
Quality & Style: HKG-LHR On Air New Zealand 744
Taiwan Trio: TransAsia, UNI Air And The Taipei 101
"The Wings Of Taiwan": EVA Air A332, 744 Combi
SHA-SZX, Shanghai 757: Delayed By The Military
PEK-SHA, China Eastern A330 & Shanghai At Night
Striking Newcomer: Berlin-Beijing On Hainan A330
Short & Splendid: MXP-MUC On Air Dolomiti's 146
3 Hours On Blue1: HEL-MXP On The MD-90
Winglets On A Classic: MUC-RIX-HEL On Air Baltic
BCN-MAD-ZRH-MUC: UX Shuttle Meets Swiss Quality
MUC-MAD-BCN: Star MD-87 & The Pain Of Vueling
Low Fares, Lovely Island: AK & Best Of Langkawi
4 Stars Or 5 Stars? FRA-KUL-FRA, Malaysia 777s
First And Last Time? JFK-FCO-MUC, Alitalia 777
JFK For 1 Day: Transatlantic Hop On CSA's A310
Sardinian Sun, Shiny New 73Gs & Cramped Mad Dog
Top And Flop: KIX-HEL-MUC, Finnair A320 & MD-11
The 524-Seat Twin-jet: HND-ITM On ANA 777-300
Kobe For 1 Hour: 767-Quickie On ANA & Skymark
Rocketing To Tokyo: FUK-HND On JAL (ex-JAS) 777
Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
MUC To Nagoya: Finnair E170 & (Old) "New" A340
Mad Dog, A320 Tech Delay & Best Of Lanzarote
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321
Hubbing For 162 Miles: HOQ-FRA-STR Ret On IQ/EW/LH
BOS-JFK-AMS-MUC: SSSS-Check And KLM 777
ATL-PIT-JFK-BOS: FL B717, JetBlue E190 And Delays
MUC-AMS-MEM-ATL On NWA A332 And 40-year-old DC-9
FRA-BKK-FRA Via CMB: SriLankan A332 & A343
BNE-SIN-DXB-MUC On Emirates B772ER & B773
2 Hours In Paradise: Hamilton Island (JQ/DJ)
BNE-SYD-BNE: Domestic Run On QF’s Oldest B747-400
Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332)
Going Down Under: MUC-DXB-SYD On EK A332 & A345
Surprised By NIKI's Newest A320 & Screw-up By AB
Leisure Vs. Full Service: Condor & SN Brussels
"betterFly" On LH: Business Class For 99 Euro
Weekend Transatlantic Trip (2): US A321 & B762
Transatlantic For A Weekend (1): MUC-DCA On US


[Edited 2012-05-19 00:12:18]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 29911 times:

Great report as usual! Looks like Jet Airways did a great job indeed.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

I agree. Perhaps a logo would be nice.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?" Of course I was very surprised about that. Satchmo wasn't addressed by name, bt

Oh well, I guess the name PlaneHunter isn't that common  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the mood lighting changed from dark blue to bright orange:

Looks very weird in the pictures. Did it stay orange during the breakfast? And was there mood lightning during the late night snack too?


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 29892 times:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 2):
Great report as usual! Looks like Jet Airways did a great job indeed.

Hi Robert, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 2):
Oh well, I guess the name PlaneHunter isn't that common

    

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 2):
Did it stay orange during the breakfast?

No, it changed to normal lighting.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 2):
And was there mood lightning during the late night snack too?

No, just normal light.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 29833 times:

Hi PlaneHunter,
Jet appears to be a contrast to Air India, judging by reports about the latter published here on A.net.

Both the 738 and the 77W looked bright and fresh. Friendly and helpful cabin staff are always the hallmark of a good airline. The meals looked generous enough too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Which city is that?

Mmmn. Bucharest, maybe?


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 29750 times:

Hi Quokkas,

thanks for commenting!

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
Jet appears to be a contrast to Air India, judging by reports about the latter published here on A.net.

Yes, absolutely.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
Both the 738 and the 77W looked bright and fresh.

  

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
Friendly and helpful cabin staff are always the hallmark of a good airline.

No doubt about that.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
The meals looked generous enough too.

They were indeed generous. Some people may find some items too spicy, though.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
Bucharest, maybe?

Yes, that's what I have guessed, too.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSRQKEF From Iceland, joined Jun 2011, 874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 29381 times:

Hi PH, another great report! I've been holding my breath for the last part the last weeks, and now it's here! Pleasure reading it.

Regarding taking pictures in India, I was literally glued to the window at DEL and took around 150 plane pictures. Nobody said anything to me! Didn't know about the rule until reading a TR in Dubai the day after I arrived from India...

Also, I saw a PIA A310 in DEL when running to the gate (boarding started 40 minutes early) and simply had to get a picture and catch the reg. I braked hard (right in front of a security officer actually!) took my camera out and took 5 pics. He didn't say anything! Lucky me apparently...

Again, great report, keep 'em coming!

Regards, Sveinn



Flights flown: 280 - Airlines: 40 - Airports: 64 - Next flights: KEF-BOS-EWR-PBI-TPA/SFB-KEF
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 29312 times:

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 6):
Hi PH, another great report!

Hi Sveinn, thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 6):
I've been holding my breath for the last part the last weeks, and now it's here! Pleasure reading it.

Good to hear, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 6):
Regarding taking pictures in India, I was literally glued to the window at DEL and took around 150 plane pictures. Nobody said anything to me!

Wow, amazing! I'm looking forward to the report.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 6):
Also, I saw a PIA A310 in DEL when running to the gate (boarding started 40 minutes early) and simply had to get a picture and catch the reg. I braked hard (right in front of a security officer actually!) took my camera out and took 5 pics. He didn't say anything! Lucky me apparently...

It seems you were really lucky.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 6):
Again, great report, keep 'em coming!

Thanks again! I'll start working on my next Asia series soon...lots of work ahead. So don't expect to see a new report anytime soon.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1447 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 28721 times:

Hi PH,

An excellent report as usual.

What an eventful spotting trip it was. I'm glad that after all the QF troubles at the beginning, you were able to finish on such a high note with 9W. Good to hear that you received such attentive service. The meals look tasty and it's nice to see the large bottles of water you got - normally it's just those small cups. Your photos capture the mood lighting brilliantly.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

They do indeed and the red pillows against the blue seats don't look too good either.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The flight attendant offered chicken and a vegetarian meal and I ordered the former:

Funny to see the Emmi coffee cream on the tray, they really are popular is Asia.

Some nice shots on approach into LHR. How exciting to experience a go-around, something still missing in my log!

Hope operation QF A380 works out!

Happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlinejetblue777 From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 1451 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 28685 times:

Hey PlaneHunter,

Excellent TR as usual,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Cold (!) towels

..because the cold cabin wasn't enough! 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I was glad that VT-JGW was a frame with PTVs, the location of the IFE box didn't bother me at all:

Looks similar to DL's Y seats on their 737-700/800 and 757-200s!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I hadn't seen so many "special requests" on a flight before. However, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request.

My mom's cousin who works in F for a major international airline said that she gets the most "special requests" on flights to/from India...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Taking pictures at Indian airports is strictly forbidden, but Satchmo was being discrete:

I hate such rules, thank goodness the Philippines and even here in the US, most airport/security staff don't mind you taking a plethora of images on the tarmac or the terminal!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
There was a choice between a vegetarian and a non-vegetarian option and I opted for the latter:

Wow, the presentation looks great!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
that was my first go-around!         

..and what better aircraft to experience it than the 77W?  

It looks like 9W is a great carrier from your experience and I would love to fly with them in the future, maybe to BRU. Once again, fantastic trip report!

- Jezrel   



It's a cultural thing.
User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1750 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 28525 times:

Hi Planehunter

Interesting report. Sounds like you had two very solid performances with Jet Airways. The food for sure looks very tasty! And the interior of the B777 in particular looks very classy.

I was quite surprised at first by the way, to see Jet Airways using a B737 on the BKK-BOM sectors, I didn't realise it was only a flight of four hours.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

Well yes it is kind of. Then again I'd rather have a cheap looking head rest cover than non at all, as SWISS does in Economy on its short-haul fleet.

Thanks for posting, cheers!
William


User currently offlineyapple From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 91 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 28414 times:

Hi PH,

Another wonderful trip report here!

Jet Airways look like a great airline to fly with. Their service sounds excellent (especially when that pretty flight attendant addressed you by name   ), and their B738 and 77W looks great.

A nice conclusion to your trip, nice to hear you log 7 new airlines, 5 new airports and 349 new registrations.

Looking forward to more reports,

yapple


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1118 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 28382 times:
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Hi PH,

Nice to see the last report of this series online. An excellent report as usual! Jet Airways sure looks like a great carrier to fly. I jut might try them out to the US/Canada from BRU  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This is the entrance of our hotel building:

doesn't look to inviting either

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
They were successful and took many nice pictures during the course of the day. Here are some examples

Very nice spotting pictures!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

indeed

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
It's not a PTV, it's a JetScreen:

Did you get any popcorn with it, hehe

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request. And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing

Very nice of the crew

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
it was impossible for me to log a single registration due to my position in that crowded vehicle

that's too bad!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nice wooden floor in the rear galley:

Looks nice!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Within a few minutes, the mood lighting changed from dark blue to bright orange:

Cool mood lighting

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Business Class seat

Looks comfortable

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and logged a total of 349 new registrations

Very nice  

cheers,
adamspotter // Brendan


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8488 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 28033 times:
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Hi PH,

Great report PH, nice pictures from you and Satchmo.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Queen's Garden Resort located five minutes from the airport. Even though we had read numerous negative reports about the hotel, we decided to stay there because the rooftop is excellent for spotting (depending on the approach direction, though)

- Good to read views from somebody I trust.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This is the main building's front side:

- Looks pretty grim.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the planes were approaching from the wrong side on that day. All we could see from the hotel's rooftop were departing aircraft - too high up in the sky. It was possible to read the registrations in most cases, but I wasn't feeling good enough and decided to stay in the room in order to rest

- Shame you were not well. Thanks for your comments on the hotel, whilst not one I would choose, I suspect I would put up with it for one to two nights for the spotting, nothing else would keep me there I suspect.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Satchmo met a spotter from Sweden at the hotel and they decided to explore the airport's surroundings together. They were successful and took many nice pictures during the course of the day. Here are some examples:

- Seems they found a great spot!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

- Totally agree!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Thai-style main course tasted very good - tender meat, crisp vegetables, well-cooked rice. I also liked the yogurt, but the cake was too sweet. I'm not a fan of cold red beans, but they were okay with salad dressing

- Looks a decent meal, impressed!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Satchmo ordered chicken as well, but he got an Indian-style main course which he liked a lot:

- Odd you both took the chicken but got different meals, not come across that before.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Even though we got a bus tour across the tarmac which was full of interesting planes, it was impossible for me to log a single registration due to my position in that crowded vehicle.   

- Bummer!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
We finally arrived in the transit area which looked nicer than the area near the security checkpoints. However, you cannot get access to the gates and you cannot see anything outside. There wasn't much to do,

- Shame, would have been ideal to try and get a bit of spotting in.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
a hot snack - a spicy vegetarian pastry roll filled with vegetables and tofu, accompanied by a sweet curd roll. The former tasted very good - the latter didn't really meet my taste:

- Not keen on tofu, had it in Hawaii, I think it's a texture issue for me.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had finished my ginger ale (no Schweppes, unfortunately)

- Interesting brand, Indian?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Omelette, Indian-style potato and meat pancake, shredded potatoes, croissant and fresh fruit - everything tasted very good.

- Looks great!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
7 new airlines, visited 5 new airports and logged a total of 349 new registrations.

- Fantastic result, well done!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Qantas paid for all additional expenses caused by the fleet grounding, paid a compensation of €600 (EU regulations) and sent me a voucher worth €190

- Well done Qantas!

Cheers

Mark



111,732,3,4,5,7,8,BBJ,741,742,743,744,752,762,763,764,772,77L,773,77W,L15,D10,30,40,AB3,AB6,A312.313,319,320,321,332,333
User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 27761 times:

Hello PlaneHunter, great report!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Satchmo met a spotter from Sweden at the hotel and they decided to explore the airport's surroundings together.

That's nice, always pleasant to meat fellow aviation enthusiasts. Was the man a member on a.net also?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Thai Airways A340-541 HS-TLA, named "Chiang Kham" :

A beautiful plane indeed, such a shame though to see them gone so soon.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

They look cheap, hence a bit oversized too. Leather ones like LH would've been much more suited for the cabin I'd say.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This was not surprising, because call buttons were being pressed all the time which kept these poor flight attendants extremely busy while serving meals.

Suppose that's the case with Indian service culture, customers have very high demands and expectations even in Economy. It's a very bad attitude I'd say, but maybe it's normal for them. Good to know at least the crew were willing enough to grant those requests, unlike AI (as described in Lars report) had a completely different approach in dealing with these pax. As a contrast on SAS using the button is strictly forbidden. Requests are almost never answered, and the few times they are you'll find the crew looking rather angry. But of course cultures are different...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The 18.5-inch wide seats were very comfortable...

Were they wider than the industry average?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nice wooden floor in the rear galley:

Very nice touch indeed. Guessing that was faux wood and not real hardwood floors?

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas



SAS Plus is Business Class made faux!
User currently offlinethe777man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6494 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 27701 times:

Hi PlaneHunter!

Thanks for an excellent report with excellent pictures from the Trip report master !

Great to read your experience on 9W ! Funny enough we flew the same aircraft on the same route but about four years apart. VT-JEG was exactly a week old when I flew on it.

It seems that 9W has cut down on service a little bit; you did not get an amenity kit and no pre-departure drink like I did. The drink I got was disgusting so you did not miss much there.

Meals looks okay and similar to what I got.

IFE is very good. I love that version of the Airshow map.

Very nice pictures of the different colors of mood lighting!

Too bad you couldn't do spotting in BKK. Lots of interesting traffic there and it's usually quite busy too.

Jet Airways does have 10 777-300/ERs although 5 are leased out to TG so it depends on how you look at that. Technically they are still a part of Jet Airways fleet.

Extra bonus with a go around in a 77W! I've only had one go around so far; RG DC-10-30 at EZE in 1996.

You should try to go on some other Indian carriers some time but make sure you are in a good condition since you never know what might happen in India.

My experience on AI was much better than 9W but the AI flight was not full and the 9W was close to full which makes a big difference. My AI 77L flight is one of the best I ever have had in Y on any carrier.

It seems like a very good trip over all with so many new carriers and registrations. Too bad you didn't feel well during parts of the trip.

Looking forward to your next report

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineaflyingkiwi From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 27589 times:

Hi PlaneHunter,

Great last installment of your series!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
They were successful and took many nice pictures during the course of the day. Here are some examples:

Lovely pictures.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Anyway, the pretty female flight attendant finally showed up, had a look at a list and said: "Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?"

Wow!, very rare to get addressed by name in Y.   

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Thai-style main course tasted very good - tender meat, crisp vegetables, well-cooked rice. I also liked the yogurt, but the cake was too sweet. I'm not a fan of cold red beans, but they were okay with salad dressing.

That meal looks delicious!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!

Sounds exciting, I've still yet to experience my first go-around.

Regards,
aflyingkiwi


User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1091 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 27539 times:

Hi Udo.

A damned fine report if I may say so... You always choose interesting carriers and present them in a most enjoyable layout. Great!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

Yeah...I don't like the design so much here but it is great to see a blanket and pillow.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I hadn't seen so many "special requests" on a flight before. However, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request. And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing!   

A sign of great training it would seem. I don't envy them... In a separate note... on a recent flight I watched many people from places in the sub-continent stashing booze they had been served. Quite funny... more on that in a future report!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Men and women had to line up separately in that dull area, characterized by a low ceiling and sterile concrete walls. Our queue moved slowly and we were stuck there for nearly 30 minutes. Officers with grim faces additionally checked all travelers with hand scanners after they had passed the metal detector.

what a buzzkill. I felt depressed just reading this!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
we would be stuck in a holding pattern for a while. "But we will still arrive on time", he promised. We didn't mind about that and enjoyed the views:

Can I just say.. perhaps Satchmo... that these are stunning pictures of London at that very special time of morning when it is coming alive. It evokes such a nice feeling holding in a massive airliner above the unique morning light of buzzing London... made better by the fog... and an eventual Go-Around. Surprised in all your flying this is the first!

So... Jet seemed excellent. Especially by service which seemed proactive and exemplary. I am still mourning kingfisher a little at the moment (do you recall their product in one of my reports?) but Jet definitely stepped up to the mark. Perhaps they can brighten up the transfer process a little.

Great compensation for your QF dramas... could I go as far as saying almost worth it? ?!

Luke



Breaking down the stereotypes - one by one
User currently offlinethe777man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6494 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 27490 times:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
unlike AI (as described in Lars report) had a completely different approach in dealing with these pax.

Hi Jonas !

I think you must be confused; I had no problem in my AI flight in Nov07; it's my recent flight on BG that had more issues and less choices.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 27422 times:

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
An excellent report as usual.

Hi Infodesk, many thanks for your comments! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
What an eventful spotting trip it was.

Yes, absolutely.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
I'm glad that after all the QF troubles at the beginning, you were able to finish on such a high note with 9W.

Well said.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
The meals look tasty and it's nice to see the large bottles of water you got - normally it's just those small cups.

They made up a bit for the lack of drink runs at night.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
They do indeed and the red pillows against the blue seats don't look too good either.

  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
Funny to see the Emmi coffee cream on the tray, they really are popular is Asia.

Interesting, I hadn't noticed that.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):
How exciting to experience a go-around, something still missing in my log!

I had been waiting for a long time - and it happened again on the next trip, on a 77W again. But it was less spectacular. More to follow in my next series.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 8):

Hope operation QF A380 works out!

The QF A380 part of the trip was fine, in contrast to the rest...

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 9):
Excellent TR as usual,

Hi Jezrel, thank you very much for your feedback! Good to hear you enjoyed reading.

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 9):
My mom's cousin who works in F for a major international airline said that she gets the most "special requests" on flights to/from India...

Very interesting. I'm wondering how LCCs can exist in India...  

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 9):
I hate such rules, thank goodness the Philippines and even here in the US, most airport/security staff don't mind you taking a plethora of images on the tarmac or the terminal!

Good to hear it's rather relaxed in the Philippines.

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 9):
..and what better aircraft to experience it than the 77W?

  

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 9):

It looks like 9W is a great carrier from your experience and I would love to fly with them in the future, maybe to BRU.

You should really give 9W a try!

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 9):
Once again, fantastic trip report!

Thanks again!

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
Interesting report.
Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
Thanks for posting, cheers!

Hi William, thanks for your reply!

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
Sounds like you had two very solid performances with Jet Airways.

Yes indeed - I was glad 9W lived up to my expectations.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
And the interior of the B777 in particular looks very classy.

Pleasant seat colors and mood lighting can make a big difference.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
I was quite surprised at first by the way, to see Jet Airways using a B737 on the BKK-BOM sectors, I didn't realise it was only a flight of four hours.

I'd have preferred an A332 which regularly flies to HKG and SIN, but the 737 with the new interior was not bad at all.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
Well yes it is kind of. Then again I'd rather have a cheap looking head rest cover than non at all, as SWISS does in Economy on its short-haul fleet.

That's a good point.

Quoting yapple (Reply 11):
Another wonderful trip report here!

Many thanks, yapple! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting yapple (Reply 11):
Jet Airways look like a great airline to fly with.

  

Quoting yapple (Reply 11):
Their service sounds excellent (especially when that pretty flight attendant addressed you by name

That was indeed impressive.

Quoting yapple (Reply 11):
and their B738 and 77W looks great.

  

Quoting yapple (Reply 11):
A nice conclusion to your trip, nice to hear you log 7 new airlines, 5 new airports and 349 new registrations.

Yes, it was a very successful trip. Too bad my recent Asia trip was partly screwed up.

Quoting yapple (Reply 11):
Looking forward to more reports,

Lots of work ahead...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 12):
Nice to see the last report of this series online. An excellent report as usual!

Hi Brendan, many thanks for your comments! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 12):
Jet Airways sure looks like a great carrier to fly. I jut might try them out to the US/Canada from BRU

You should!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 12):
Very nice spotting pictures!

Thanks - Satchmo will be happy to hear that.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 12):
Did you get any popcorn with it, hehe

No, unfortunately!  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Great report PH, nice pictures from you and Satchmo.

Hi Mark, thanks a lot for your reply!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Thanks for your comments on the hotel, whilst not one I would choose, I suspect I would put up with it for one to two nights for the spotting, nothing else would keep me there I suspect.

It can be great for spotting - but that's it!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Seems they found a great spot!

  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Odd you both took the chicken but got different meals, not come across that before.

That was really odd. I'm still wondering about that.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Shame, would have been ideal to try and get a bit of spotting in.

Sure, there are so many interesting birds at BOM!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Interesting brand, Indian?

Good question, I'll try to find it out. It cannot match Schweppes, of course.  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Fantastic result, well done!

Yes, I was quite satisfied. Just too bad I missed many nice birds at BKK.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
Well done Qantas!

No doubt about that!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
Hello PlaneHunter, great report!

Hi Jonas, thanks for commenting!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
That's nice, always pleasant to meat fellow aviation enthusiasts. Was the man a member on a.net also?

No, but he certainly knows the site.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
A beautiful plane indeed, such a shame though to see them gone so soon.

Yes, I can only agree. I'm wondering what will happen to them.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):

They look cheap, hence a bit oversized too. Leather ones like LH would've been much more suited for the cabin I'd say.

  

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
As a contrast on SAS using the button is strictly forbidden. Requests are almost never answered, and the few times they are you'll find the crew looking rather angry.

Is it really that bad?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
Were they wider than the industry average?

I'm not sure what's the average. SIA's seats on the 77W are 19 inches wide, AF's and EK's just 17 inches (3-4-3 configuration).

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 14):
Very nice touch indeed. Guessing that was faux wood and not real hardwood floors?

I don't know, it's hard to tell. But it definitely looks nice.

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Thanks for an excellent report with excellent pictures from the Trip report master !

Hi Lars my friend, thanks so much for your kind words!

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Great to read your experience on 9W ! Funny enough we flew the same aircraft on the same route but about four years apart. VT-JEG was exactly a week old when I flew on it.

That's indeed nice!

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
It seems that 9W has cut down on service a little bit; you did not get an amenity kit and no pre-departure drink like I did.

Yes, amenity kits would have been nice.

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Very nice pictures of the different colors of mood lighting!

Thanks!

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Too bad you couldn't do spotting in BKK. Lots of interesting traffic there and it's usually quite busy too.

I had been looking forward to spotting at BKK. Oh well.

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Jet Airways does have 10 777-300/ERs although 5 are leased out to TG so it depends on how you look at that. Technically they are still a part of Jet Airways fleet.

Well, it's a matter of perspective. It's the active fleet which counts IMO.

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Extra bonus with a go around in a 77W!

No doubt about that! It happened again on my next 77W flight!

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
I've only had one go around so far; RG DC-10-30 at EZE in 1996.

Sounds exciting!

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
You should try to go on some other Indian carriers some time but make sure you are in a good condition since you never know what might happen in India.

I'd love to try AI's 77L or 77W.

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
My experience on AI was much better than 9W but the AI flight was not full and the 9W was close to full which makes a big difference. My AI 77L flight is one of the best I ever have had in Y on any carrier.

Yes, I remember that!

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
It seems like a very good trip over all with so many new carriers and registrations.

  

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Too bad you didn't feel well during parts of the trip.

Yes, and it happened again and again...   

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):

Looking forward to your next report

Warning - no 777 involved!  

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 16):
Great last installment of your series!

Hi aflyingkiwi, thanks for your comments!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 16):
Wow!, very rare to get addressed by name in Y.

That was certainly nice!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 16):
Sounds exciting, I've still yet to experience my first go-around.

The day will come!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
A damned fine report if I may say so... You always choose interesting carriers and present them in a most enjoyable layout. Great!

Hi Luke, thanks a lot for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
A sign of great training it would seem.

  

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
I don't envy them...

I don't either!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
In a separate note... on a recent flight I watched many people from places in the sub-continent stashing booze they had been served. Quite funny... more on that in a future report!

Interesting, I'm looking forward to that one.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
Can I just say.. perhaps Satchmo... that these are stunning pictures of London at that very special time of morning when it is coming alive. It evokes such a nice feeling holding in a massive airliner above the unique morning light of buzzing London... made better by the fog... and an eventual Go-Around. Surprised in all your flying this is the first!

That was a very special approach - being stuck in a holding pattern near LHR is always exciting with all these other airliners nearby.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
So... Jet seemed excellent. Especially by service which seemed proactive and exemplary.

  

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
I am still mourning kingfisher a little at the moment (do you recall their product in one of my reports?) but Jet definitely stepped up to the mark. Perhaps they can brighten up the transfer process a little.

Oh yes, I would have loved to try Kingfisher. Well, there's still some hope left.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
Great compensation for your QF dramas... could I go as far as saying almost worth it? ?!

Well...yes.



PH

[Edited 2012-05-19 15:32:06]


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineflightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1233 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 27092 times:
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Hey PH!!

Great to see this write up on India's little aviation gem!! Looks like 9W really lived up to your expectations if not more!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After our arrival from Phuket, we took the hotel shuttle to the Queen's Garden Resort located five minutes from the airport. Even though we had read numerous negative reports about the hotel, we decided to stay there because the rooftop is excellent for spotting (depending on the approach direction, though)

That is something to consider if one is stuck at BKK airport for more than one would want to spend just waiting at the terminal

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We had planned to switch off the air conditioning device at night, but that turned out to be a bad idea. Temperatures went up quickly, so we had to switch it on again. In order to avoid the cool air being blown at us all the time (I had already been sick), we had to rearrange the furniture in the room which made lots of noise. We didn't hear any complaints, fortunately.

They were probably just thinking the occupants in the room were in a party mode!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
rail station in the background:

I'm assuming that goes through the airport like the subway that goes through Dubai Airport? They are only now starting to link Toronto's Pearson with the downtown core, but that should take another year or two.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Sandbags had been prepared for the worst case:

Good to hear you were safe.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the planes were approaching from the wrong side on that day. All we could see from the hotel's rooftop were departing aircraft - too high up in the sky. It was possible to read the registrations in most cases, but I wasn't feeling good enough and decided to stay in the room in order to rest. I could see some planes from the balcony and could even log some registrations - but certainly not as many as I had been hoping for.

Satchmo met a spotter from Sweden at the hotel and they decided to explore the airport's surroundings together. They were successful and took many nice pictures during the course of the day. Here are some examples:

Very unfortunate you could not accompany them, but at least Satchmo was able to provide those gorgeous pics!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Thai Airways A340-541 HS-TLA, named "Chiang Kham" :

Indeed a gorgeous aircraft. Where do these "birdies" now fly considering that LAX is no longer non-stop and operates with the 772 via Osaka, if I recall correctly. Or is a combination of both nonstop and one stop?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9W067 to Mumbai was also operating as SN4138:

Interesting note about the Durians...Were they afraid there would be a stampede out the plane should somebody try to cut one open in flight and eat it lol. The smell can be offensive to some and pleasant to others, even comparable to the smell of gym socks lol. I ate one in Kuala Lumpur and the look on my face is still fondly remembered by those who were witness to it..and I held my nose while I ate it lol. Please was not being disrespectful to a very revered fruit, just sharing a general opinion, and my own experience too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Very friendly and smiling flight attendants (females wearing pretty yellow uniform jackets) welcomed us on board.

Jet Airways' very own canaries!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The cabin was in good condition and had been cleaned well. Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

I prefer the red colours of the long haul fleet. But forget what the inside looks, Jet Airways aircraft colours are the nicest on the outside. What an amazing colour scheme!! Have yet to get a decent 1:200 scale model of this airline.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What I didn't like was the cool temperature in the cabin and I pointed that out to a pretty female flight attendant. "It will get warmer later", she promised with a smile.

Well it was quite hot as you indicated so I guess it was only natural to have it cold inside. Perhaps it was a few notches colder than one would want.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Headphones had already been placed in the seat pockets:

Hopefully these had been sterilized and were in plastic concealed bags?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Cold (!) towels were distributed with a smile a

Again cold towels to compensate for the hot weather lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The four flight attendants in Economy Class soon started serving dinner, but they didn't arrive at our row less than an hour after takeoff. This was not surprising, because call buttons were being pressed all the time which kept these poor flight attendants extremely busy while serving meals.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request. And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing! thumbsup

It has been said that Indian passengers are the most demanding, and yes this coming from me from the Sub-continent myself. I really shake my head in disbelief when on an EK or EY flight (which is 95% made up of sub-continent folk like myself) and see how the cabin crew have to make numerous runs to otherwise unnecessary call button calls made from say a sample of 10-15% of the lot. The FAs are there to serve you, not to be your butler on demand!!

Because of this all sub-continent passengers get thought of as "the demanding" ones and are meted the service that truly only the ones making all these demands should be getting, that is unfriendly service. Well in Jet Airways case, at least they were nice enough to treat everybody the same, and that is with professional and smiling service.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I hadn't seen so many "special requests" on a flight before.

Yes the special meals are there due to religious beliefs and practices. On most other non-Indian airline flights the special meals are the vegetarian meals, but they seemed to have had this on these flights too in addition to these special meals.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Anyway, the pretty female flight attendant finally showed up, had a look at a list and said: "Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?" Of course I was very surprised about that. Satchmo wasn't addressed by name, btw.

PH your first name does have a very Indian flair to it if I may so! And it was nice of the crew to remember it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The flight attendant offered chicken and a vegetarian meal and I ordered the former:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Thai-style main course tasted very good - tender meat, crisp vegetables, well-cooked rice. I also liked the yogurt, but the cake was too sweet. I'm not a fan of cold red beans, but they were okay with salad dressing.

Satchmo ordered chicken as well, but he got an Indian-style main course which he liked a lot:

Very strange that two types of Chicken dishes should exist? I'm thinking all the vegetarian meals were gone and they had to cater to those with a taste for Thai cuisine by offering the Thai version in addition to the Indian chicken one.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Taking pictures at Indian airports is strictly forbidden, but Satchmo was being discrete:

Nicely captured even though discretely!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):

Jet Airways 9W120
Economy Class, seat 61K
Boeing 777-35RER
VT-JEG (s/n 675)
Delivered in 11/2007
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
And of course we had been happy that 61H and 61K in the last row were still available on the 777 - it's interesting to note that there are only two 2-seat rows on the plane.

Wow nice that you two could score those only two seats at the back. My preference too, because honestly I cannot stand it when the person behind you keeps on kicking the seat from behind. Haven't really been lucky to get those last seats of late, and besides with the last two EY flights last year I totally sacrificed them just to sit up front to view those gorgeous GE-90s!! I really wish Jet Airways would send it's 77Ws to Toronto someday!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
accompanied by a sweet curd roll.

Rasmalai?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nice wooden floor in the rear galley:

Looks like 9W like EY sacrificed the space of the galley to make room for two lavatories at the back. I quite prefer EK's galley as they are wide and spacious.

9W: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Jet...s/Jet_Airways_Boeing_777-300ER.php

EY: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Eti...tihad_Airways_Boeing_777-300ER.php

EK: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...rlines_Boeing_777-300ER_3class.php

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had finished my ginger ale (no Schweppes, unfortunately), a friendly male flight attendant asked if I wanted another one. I agreed and he quickly delivered. Very attentive service! thumbsup
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I went to the galley in the middle of the night in order to get some tea for Satchmo and me. One of the friendly male flight attendants sprung into action and told me that it wasn't necessary to wait. "I will bring it to your seat", he said. Another example of good service! thumbsup

Great service. Also I'm assuming all 9W's staff are young cabin crew? As opposed to the older cabin crew on AI or BG?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Even though Jet Airways doesn't fly to Germany, more than 20 movies were available in German which is quite impressive
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Then I switched to my favorite IFE feature:

So did you land up watching any of he movies available in German, considering there was not much inflight entertainment outside the window!!.........Ah yes the inflight entertainment inside  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
we flew straight over Dubai and I could see the brightly illuminated Palm Jumeirah - too bad it was not possible to take a decent picture.

Would have been nice to get it though

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Omelette, Indian-style potato and meat pancake, shredded potatoes, croissant and fresh fruit - everything tasted very good. And I also liked the tea. I can only praise Jet Airways for serving such a big and tasty breakfast. thumbsup

And of course who could not notice the AMUL butter. A very famous Indian brand.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

Have yet to experience one!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...mission accomplished:

Looks like you missed the lovely beauty on it's port side  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 12):
I jut might try them out to the US/Canada from BRU

Hopefully you should do the BRU-YYZ route on the A332!!

Quoting the777man (Reply 15):
Jet Airways does have 10 777-300/ERs although 5 are leased out to TG so it depends on how you look at that. Technically they are still a part of Jet Airways fleet.

That is true, they are still technically part of 9Ws fleet.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 17):
A sign of great training it would seem. I don't envy them... In a separate note... on a recent flight I watched many people from places in the sub-continent stashing booze they had been served. Quite funny

I cannot remember which airline it is, EK I think where if you ask for a drink, the crew deliberately open the miniature bottle and hand it to you without the cap, so you don't land up stashing it like you experienced above lol....Or at the most pour the entire contents into the glass and serve it to the passengers.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 26781 times:

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Great to see this write up on India's little aviation gem!!

Hi flightsimboy, many thanks for taking the time to write such an extended reply! I really appreciate that.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Looks like 9W really lived up to your expectations if not more!!

Yes, absolutely!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
That is something to consider if one is stuck at BKK airport for more than one would want to spend just waiting at the terminal

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
They were probably just thinking the occupants in the room were in a party mode!!

Yeah, probably. But I think there weren't many guests in that hotel.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
I'm assuming that goes through the airport like the subway that goes through Dubai Airport?

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Very unfortunate you could not accompany them, but at least Satchmo was able to provide those gorgeous pics!!

Yes, he was very successful.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Indeed a gorgeous aircraft. Where do these "birdies" now fly considering that LAX is no longer non-stop and operates with the 772 via Osaka, if I recall correctly. Or is a combination of both nonstop and one stop?

Good question. I read somewhere that they may leave the fleet. Would be really sad to see them stored in the desert.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Interesting note about the Durians...Were they afraid there would be a stampede out the plane should somebody try to cut one open in flight and eat it lol. The smell can be offensive to some and pleasant to others, even comparable to the smell of gym socks lol. I ate one in Kuala Lumpur and the look on my face is still fondly remembered by those who were witness to it..and I held my nose while I ate it lol. Please was not being disrespectful to a very revered fruit, just sharing a general opinion, and my own experience too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian

Wow, interesting, thanks!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Jet Airways' very own canaries!!

Well said!  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
But forget what the inside looks, Jet Airways aircraft colours are the nicest on the outside. What an amazing colour scheme!! Have yet to get a decent 1:200 scale model of this airline.

I can only agree. I should get a 77W model, too.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Perhaps it was a few notches colder than one would want.

No doubt about that.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Hopefully these had been sterilized and were in plastic concealed bags?

Of course - I always take them out for the picture.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
It has been said that Indian passengers are the most demanding, and yes this coming from me from the Sub-continent myself.

That's very interesting. I had heard about it and could finally experience it.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Well in Jet Airways case, at least they were nice enough to treat everybody the same, and that is with professional and smiling service.

That was indeed amazing.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
PH your first name does have a very Indian flair to it if I may so!

Really?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Very strange that two types of Chicken dishes should exist? I'm thinking all the vegetarian meals were gone and they had to cater to those with a taste for Thai cuisine by offering the Thai version in addition to the Indian chicken one.

I still don't know what happened - probably I got a special meal without having ordered one? But then why did she ask me whether I wanted this or that?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Wow nice that you two could score those only two seats at the back.

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
My preference too, because honestly I cannot stand it when the person behind you keeps on kicking the seat from behind.

I haven't had that problem yet, fortunately.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
I really wish Jet Airways would send it's 77Ws to Toronto someday!!

Who knows, maybe one day?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Rasmalai?

Thanks, I guess that's it!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Looks like 9W like EY sacrificed the space of the galley to make room for two lavatories at the back.

Interesting, thanks for providing the links.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Great service. Also I'm assuming all 9W's staff are young cabin crew? As opposed to the older cabin crew on AI or BG?

Yes, 25 to 35 I would say.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
So did you land up watching any of he movies available in German, considering there was not much inflight entertainment outside the window!!.......

No, I didn't watch a movie. I almost never do that on flights.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
And of course who could not notice the AMUL butter. A very famous Indian brand.

Interesting, thanks!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Have yet to experience one!!

Good luck!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 20):
Looks like you missed the lovely beauty on it's port side

Yes, but I'm satisfied with the last picture.



PH



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6406 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 26406 times:

Hi PH,

Another great TR from you. Also thank Satchmo for great pictures - you're lucky to have him travel with you to keep a nice photo record!

9W certainly look like a nice airline to fly. Meals (apart from the snack out of BOM) looked nice and service looked good too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The four flight attendants in Economy Class soon started serving dinner, but they didn't arrive at our row less than an hour after takeoff. This was not surprising, because call buttons were being pressed all the time which kept these poor flight attendants extremely busy while serving meals. I hadn't seen so many "special requests" on a flight before. However, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request. And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing!

I was talking to an EY flight attendant and he was telling me how the crews dreaded the flights to India due to the constant bell ringing and demands. I suppose that happens on every flight. Good that they deal with everyone (no matter how rude or demanding they may be) but I suppose it would be annoying if you were waiting to be served but kept on being interrupted by these extra requests.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Anyway, the pretty female flight attendant finally showed up, had a look at a list and said: "Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?" Of course I was very surprised about that. Satchmo wasn't addressed by name, btw.

Most interesting!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
As far as I can remember, the Indian-style meal wasn't offered to me - and Satchmo cannot remember either if he had a choice between an Indian and a Thai chicken dish. So who knows?

Interesting again. You'd think they'd make some sort of differentiation between them. I suppose a lot of people would just call a meal on a plane crap food anyway and just deal with what they get..

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Even though we got a bus tour across the tarmac which was full of interesting planes, it was impossible for me to log a single registration due to my position in that crowded vehicle

If you're last off the plane, you should find yourself in the doorway, right? And most airport buses I've come across have glass doors. Just a thought..

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
However, you cannot get access to the gates and you cannot see anything outside. There wasn't much to do, so we kept reading during the next two hours.

Doesn't sound promising.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
After a route change, we flew straight over Dubai and I could see the brightly illuminated Palm Jumeirah - too bad it was not possible to take a decent picture.

I love flying over cities, especially at night. Too bad I picked aisle seats on my long hauls as I didn't want to be trapped in.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Which city is that?
Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):

Mmmn. Bucharest, maybe?

Confirmed by looking at Google Maps - it was my guess too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
The mood lighting changed to light purple after breakfast:

It's great how these airlines actually utilise the mood lighting. CX have it onboard their planes (77W at least) but I only ever saw it working in Business, through the curtain.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!

That must have been some experience, especially in a 77W! Still awaiting my first..

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Flying Jet Airways was a great pleasure. Both the 737 and the 777 were in good shape and equipped with comfortable seats and modern and convenient IFE systems. All ground staff and flight crew members were very friendly and service-orientated, the catering was very good both in terms of quality and quantity. Jet Airways calls itself "India's finest international airline" - well, I haven't flown on other Indian carriers yet, but I can confirm that Jet Airways is among the finest airlines I have tried - and it's definitely more reliable than the country's big state carrier.

Sounds promising - wonder if/when I'll be able to give them a go.

Thanks for sharing yet another series! Looking forward to your next TRs


Cheers,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 26302 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Another great TR from you.

Hi Nicholas, many thanks for your comments! Good to hear from you.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Also thank Satchmo for great pictures - you're lucky to have him travel with you to keep a nice photo record!

Yes, always good to be on tour with an expert photographer.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
I was talking to an EY flight attendant and he was telling me how the crews dreaded the flights to India due to the constant bell ringing and demands. I suppose that happens on every flight.

Wow, that sounds really bad!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Good that they deal with everyone (no matter how rude or demanding they may be) but I suppose it would be annoying if you were waiting to be served but kept on being interrupted by these extra requests.

Sure, it must be annoying. And some passengers were really rude and behaved like princes on the BKK-BOM segment.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
If you're last off the plane, you should find yourself in the doorway, right? And most airport buses I've come across have glass doors.

Usually that's the way to go, but it was a bit difficult at BOM.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Too bad I picked aisle seats on my long hauls as I didn't want to be trapped in.

That's what I chose on my recent trip as well.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Confirmed by looking at Google Maps - it was my guess too.

  

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
CX have it onboard their planes (77W at least) but I only ever saw it working in Business, through the curtain.

That's too bad. Airlines should use mood lighting more intensively.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
That must have been some experience, especially in a 77W!

  

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Sounds promising - wonder if/when I'll be able to give them a go.

I can only recommend to try 9W.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Thanks for sharing yet another series! Looking forward to your next TRs

Lots of work ahead...


PH

[Edited 2012-05-20 04:13:34]


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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 26251 times:

Hi PH
Thanks for taking the time to post this trip report, as usual it is worth waiting for it.
I flew Jet Airways between BRU and EWR as well in 2008 and was very pleased with the service I must say.
Just a bit of a slow service schedule on the EWR-BRU (main meal +2hrs after departure, Breakfast +2hours before landing). I believe it was due to the F/A's not being used to the short TATL hops like EWR-BRU.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nordwind Airlines Boeing 767-306ER VQ-BMQ - users MSS658 and Lufthansa747 once flew on that bird when it was still operating for KLM as PH-BZE:

Haha... 24.08.2000 on KLM from Atlanta to Amsterdam

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 26249 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 24):
Thanks for taking the time to post this trip report, as usual it is worth waiting for it.

Hi Marc, thanks for your reply!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 24):
I flew Jet Airways between BRU and EWR as well in 2008 and was very pleased with the service I must say.

Didn't you have a 77W as well?

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 24):
Just a bit of a slow service schedule on the EWR-BRU (main meal +2hrs after departure, Breakfast +2hours before landing).

That's indeed a bit slow.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 24):
Haha... 24.08.2000 on KLM from Atlanta to Amsterdam

It's great that you already checked the registrations back then!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineElPistolero From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 1007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 26168 times:

Great trip report!

I am a big fan of 9W (I used to use them all the time during my work assignment in India in 2009). I used them once in 2011, but I felt like their catering was not as substantial as earlier. Still, I would say they have one of the better products in the skies. Switching back to AC after them (especially in Y), took some adjusting.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The four flight attendants in Economy Class soon started serving dinner, but they didn't arrive at our row less than an hour after takeoff. This was not surprising, because call buttons were being pressed all the time which kept these poor flight attendants extremely busy while serving meals.

This is very common with Indian pax. I learnt the hard way. Once, in Y, on a 9W DEL-LHR day run, an elderly lady next to me decided that she did not like the pickle (yes, pickle, in a small butter type pack) that had been served with her meal. She promptly rang the call bell and explained her predicament to a flight attendant. To my utter astonishment, within a minute, a male f/a retrieved her bag from the overhead compartment while a female f/a held her tray. After a little shuffling through her bag, she pulled out a small packet of pickle (identical in size, packaging, but different brand - presumably from an earlier/domestic connecting flight. This was duly placed on the tray, and the bag put back. Everything was done with a smile - no bemusement - just a happy to help attitude. Astonishing.

I would have loved to see an LH or KL F/A deal with that situatio  

Suffice it to say, the old lady was a happy customer, the F/As got back to work, and I sat there looking like I had just had a close encounter of the third kind.

There is a bright side (though I don't know how much it applies anymore, assuming 9W has built a FF base). I was a lowly Blue Plus on 9W (nowhere near Silver on *A) when I began a string of Y->J op-ups due to overbooked flights. I couldn't understand how I was getting so lucky (it happened several times). So finally, I asked an Indian colleague who travels on the route a lot - thinking, of course, that it may be related to the booking class our company was booking us in. He told me that it never happened to him.

We compared notes and sure enough, the only difference between our travel profiles was that I held a Canadian passport and he held an Indian one. We surmised that this is perhaps because Indian pax are so demanding, that putting a (thoroughly grateful) foreigner in up front is easier than putting an Indian one, who would, after the novelty wore off, go back to his/her demanding ways.

To date, its the only explanation I have for my run of good luck.


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 26175 times:

Hi PH,

Good to see the conclusion to your Asia trip. Jet Airways looks very nice, although the thought of transitting in BOM might put quite a few travelers off from flying them... But great for your to catch 77W with them as well, amazing planes!

You certainly seem to have bad luck with Asia and falling sick, though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
On the next morning, we went to the main building for breakfast which wasn't great either. This is the main building's front side:

That hotel experience doesn't sound too good at all - maybe it was a new property and they still hadn't had time to get things completely finished and organized? I hope you didn't pay much for that, considering what tremendous value hotels in Bangkok can be.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Satchmo met a spotter from Sweden at the hotel and they decided to explore the airport's surroundings together. They were successful and took many nice pictures during the course of the day. Here are some examples:

Ahh, lovely full frame photos there, but of course nothing less espected from Satchmo of course, his work as part of your reports is always a pleasure to observe!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
HS-TLA operated the airline's first commercial A340-500 flight from Bangkok to Phuket in April 2005 and guess who was on board? User Lufthansa747. Airpearl flew on that plane several times, too.

Oh yes, I still remember that report like it was only yesterday!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9W067 to Mumbai was also operating as SN4138:

What an odd codeshare, considering that SN itself doesn't fly either to Mumbai or Bangkok! But I guess it is explained by their rather tight co-operation with Jet, including codesharing on the BRU-BOM flight.

I also find the note about bringing durians into the cabin quite hilarious!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

Absolutely! Those seats also look very rigid and hard, but maybe it just looked like that and wasn't actually so. Still I find it quite a long route for a 738, flying between the largest cities on both countries I think they could fill a widebody as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
10 minutes after pushback, VT-JGW powerfully took off into the night sky. I soon started exploring the touchscreen control audio/video on-demand IFE system. Here's the main menu:

Looks nice, thus completely unlike the Air China A330 IFE I tried to use yesterday. That was completely unusable as the response times were horrible and I didn't manage to switch it away from Chinese. Then again it didn't have any airshow so no biggie really.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
That's what I preferred:

+1.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Thai-style main course tasted very good - tender meat, crisp vegetables, well-cooked rice. I also liked the yogurt, but the cake was too sweet. I'm not a fan of cold red beans, but they were okay with salad dressing.

That looks excellent! I'd imagine getting same kind of Thai food in a street kitchen, very nice from Jet.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
As far as I can remember, the Indian-style meal wasn't offered to me - and Satchmo cannot remember either if he had a choice between an Indian and a Thai chicken dish. So who knows?

That is very odd. Maybe they load a selection of different dishes considering the good number of various special diets in India?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
All transfer passengers had to pass an extended security check after arriving at the Terminal 2 building.

My parents once flew to Thailand on those special Finnair 757 cattle class charter flights which involved a refuelling stop in Ahmedabad, India smack in the middle of the night. They, especially my stepmom were rather scared by the whole experience since the Indian had them going thru a full security check, as you mentioned men and women separated with military policemen carrying submachine guns everywhere.

Luckily those services don't exist anymore, they have been replaced with a non stop A330 service, although operated by a leased Portuguese Hifly cattle truck.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The 18.5-inch wide seats were very comfortable...

I still can't get over that porn red color! Seriously?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
10 777s? Yes, in good old times. The active 777 fleet consists of only 5 frames. Did you listen, 9W?

Ahh, you can always count on PH finding something amiss with the fleet pages...  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Omelette, Indian-style potato and meat pancake, shredded potatoes, croissant and fresh fruit - everything tasted very good. And I also liked the tea. I can only praise Jet Airways for serving such a big and tasty breakfast.   

That looks very nice as well. Compare this with the "stale croissant and tub of yogurt if you're lucky" type of breakfast you nowadays get with American carriers (and heck, even with BA it seems!) on transatlantic flights.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
that was my first go-around!

Congratulations! I can't imagine a better plane to experience it than aboard a triple seven, the power of those amazing GE90s engines must really be a truly amazing feeling lifting the plane off from a very low alttitude!


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 26106 times:

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 26):
Great trip report!

Many thanks ElPistolero!

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 26):
I am a big fan of 9W (I used to use them all the time during my work assignment in India in 2009). I used them once in 2011, but I felt like their catering was not as substantial as earlier.

What about amenity kits - were they still handed out back then?

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 26):
This is very common with Indian pax. I learnt the hard way. Once, in Y, on a 9W DEL-LHR day run, an elderly lady next to me decided that she did not like the pickle (yes, pickle, in a small butter type pack) that had been served with her meal. She promptly rang the call bell and explained her predicament to a flight attendant. To my utter astonishment, within a minute, a male f/a retrieved her bag from the overhead compartment while a female f/a held her tray. After a little shuffling through her bag, she pulled out a small packet of pickle (identical in size, packaging, but different brand - presumably from an earlier/domestic connecting flight. This was duly placed on the tray, and the bag put back. Everything was done with a smile - no bemusement - just a happy to help attitude. Astonishing.

Wow, unbelievable!   

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 26):
I would have loved to see an LH or KL F/A deal with that situatio

Or how about Iberia long-haul FA?  

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 26):
Suffice it to say, the old lady was a happy customer, the F/As got back to work, and I sat there looking like I had just had a close encounter of the third kind.

Great!

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 26):
There is a bright side (though I don't know how much it applies anymore, assuming 9W has built a FF base). I was a lowly Blue Plus on 9W (nowhere near Silver on *A) when I began a string of Y->J op-ups due to overbooked flights. I couldn't understand how I was getting so lucky (it happened several times). So finally, I asked an Indian colleague who travels on the route a lot - thinking, of course, that it may be related to the booking class our company was booking us in. He told me that it never happened to him.

We compared notes and sure enough, the only difference between our travel profiles was that I held a Canadian passport and he held an Indian one. We surmised that this is perhaps because Indian pax are so demanding, that putting a (thoroughly grateful) foreigner in up front is easier than putting an Indian one, who would, after the novelty wore off, go back to his/her demanding ways.

To date, its the only explanation I have for my run of good luck.

Very interesting, thanks for posting!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Good to see the conclusion to your Asia trip.

Hi P., thanks for your feedback! Yes, I'm relieved I have finally finished writing about my 2011 flights. Well, it's only May...  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Jet Airways looks very nice, although the thought of transitting in BOM might put quite a few travelers off from flying them...

Yes, I'm sure it does. But I had expected it to be worse. I was surprised that the toilets were in good condition and absolutely clean in the transit area...well, there was a huge dead cockroach on the floor, but that's hardly worth mentioning.  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
You certainly seem to have bad luck with Asia and falling sick, though.

Absolutely, that baffles me currently. It also happened during the Asia trip in March - and you know what happened last week. I don't know, I may stay away from Asia and other hot destinations for a while.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
That hotel experience doesn't sound too good at all - maybe it was a new property and they still hadn't had time to get things completely finished and organized?

No, it wasn't a new building.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
I hope you didn't pay much for that, considering what tremendous value hotels in Bangkok can be.

It was rather cheap - and we only chose to stay there for spotting. Well, it didn't work out.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Ahh, lovely full frame photos there, but of course nothing less espected from Satchmo of course, his work as part of your reports is always a pleasure to observe!

He'll certainly appreciate that.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Oh yes, I still remember that report like it was only yesterday!

I also remember reading it - I was really curious to know more about the interior.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
What an odd codeshare, considering that SN itself doesn't fly either to Mumbai or Bangkok! But I guess it is explained by their rather tight co-operation with Jet, including codesharing on the BRU-BOM flight.

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Those seats also look very rigid and hard, but maybe it just looked like that and wasn't actually so.

The seats were fine.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Still I find it quite a long route for a 738, flying between the largest cities on both countries I think they could fill a widebody as well.
9W sends A332s to SIN and both A332s and 77Ws to HKG, but there may be more frequencies to BKK.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Looks nice, thus completely unlike the Air China A330 IFE I tried to use yesterday. That was completely unusable as the response times were horrible and I didn't manage to switch it away from Chinese.

I remember that the IFE system on my CA A332 flight (B-6080) wasn't great either.

The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332 (by PlaneHunter May 29 2010 in Trip Reports)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Then again it didn't have any airshow so no biggie really.

No airshow? That's really bad. It worked on my PEK-MUC flight.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
That is very odd. Maybe they load a selection of different dishes considering the good number of various special diets in India?

Yes, could be possible.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
My parents once flew to Thailand on those special Finnair 757 cattle class charter flights which involved a refuelling stop in Ahmedabad, India smack in the middle of the night. They, especially my stepmom were rather scared by the whole experience since the Indian had them going thru a full security check, as you mentioned men and women separated with military policemen carrying submachine guns everywhere.

Wow, that's odd. And it must have been quite an experience with that 757.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
I still can't get over that porn red color! Seriously?

The colors are nice. I'd agree if they were brighter.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Ahh, you can always count on PH finding something amiss with the fleet pages...

Not always, but pretty often...  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
That looks very nice as well. Compare this with the "stale croissant and tub of yogurt if you're lucky" type of breakfast you nowadays get with American carriers (and heck, even with BA it seems!) on transatlantic flights.

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Congratulations! I can't imagine a better plane to experience it than aboard a triple seven, the power of those amazing GE90s engines must really be a truly amazing feeling lifting the plane off from a very low alttitude!

It was great indeed - but I think we didn't experience full power.


PH

[Edited 2012-05-20 06:50:18]


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User currently offlineElPistolero From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 1007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26038 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
What about amenity kits - were they still handed out back then?

The first time I flew 9W in Y ... was in Dec 2006, I think. It was when 9W was still using SAA 340s. I had to go to India for a friend's wedding - my friend had booked the tickets. I knew of 9W, but I had never actually flown them. As far as I can recall, there were no amenity kits in Y. Next flew them a whole lot in 2009 and the odd flight since, but no, I don't recall amenity kits in Y.

On J, during day flights, there were never any amenity kits - they did a trolly service with socks and eyeshades and other miscellaneous items one could choose from. On overnight flights, they have a rather nice Bulgari amenity kit (well they did in 2010 - I've flown them once since then - in Y). Of all the amenity kits I have, it is the only one I use. Its cylindracal shape and compactness make it perfect for carry-on and its both smart and durable.

I will note that back then, they had menus in Y (which they no longer do). I may also be mistaken, but they did previously have 3 choices - Indian Veg, Indian Non-Veg and western fare (usually something along the lines of grilled chicken or fish, in a wine sauce). Either I haven't been paying attention of late (or never asked) but in my one flight since I returned to Canada in 2010, the 'western' option was not offered. The meal size also appears to have gotten smaller in Y.

As an aside, one explanation I could give for the many, many special meals is the booking system. You appear have taken the red-eye out of BOM which is optimized for connections to the US/Canada (getting in early AM, in time for the morning/afternoon flights westbound). 9W will always adequately cater veg/non veg, as is the Indian custom. With flights to N. America/Canada, meat options tend to be the norm, and with Indians generally avoiding beef, it just becomes more sensible to book a special meal.

I flew DEL-BOM-DEL in J/Y India in April to burn some expiring miles (sadly did the long haul in TKs excellent Y+/Y combo from Canada to India). When I called to move the booking two hours earlier (there was a nominal fee of $3) , the agent asked me if I would like Veg or Non Veg. Non-veg, I said. They served seafood on the flight - I do not eat seafood - so I went with the Veg option. I can't help but wonder if I messed up their system there.  


User currently offlineElPistolero From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 1007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26023 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
That looks very nice as well. Compare this with the "stale croissant and tub of yogurt if you're lucky" type of breakfast you nowadays get with American carriers (and heck, even with BA it seems!) on transatlantic flights.

Try AC, with its cardboard muffin. No yogurn. No croissant. Just one stale, unidentifiable, oily muffin (some think its banana) - I've eaten about 1/3rd each of 4 different types. No discernible flavor - some are sweeter than others. Now try standing in the hour long LHR immigration with your muffin-powered sugar rush fading away rapidly.....  

Best airline in North America, they say.

[Edited 2012-05-20 07:41:14]

User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 15
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 25891 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 25):
Didn't you have a 77W as well?

correct, VT-JEB (now with TG, actually the one featured in Gabriels report) and VT-JEH.



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 25873 times:

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 29):
The first time I flew 9W in Y ... was in Dec 2006, I think. It was when 9W was still using SAA 340s.

Ah, I remember these days when they got these new A343s.

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 29):
On J, during day flights, there were never any amenity kits - they did a trolly service with socks and eyeshades and other miscellaneous items one could choose from.

Interesting concept!

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 29):
On overnight flights, they have a rather nice Bulgari amenity kit (well they did in 2010 - I've flown them once since then - in Y). Of all the amenity kits I have, it is the only one I use. Its cylindracal shape and compactness make it perfect for carry-on and its both smart and durable.

Great stuff!

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 29):
I will note that back then, they had menus in Y (which they no longer do). I may also be mistaken, but they did previously have 3 choices - Indian Veg, Indian Non-Veg and western fare (usually something along the lines of grilled chicken or fish, in a wine sauce). Either I haven't been paying attention of late (or never asked) but in my one flight since I returned to Canada in 2010, the 'western' option was not offered. The meal size also appears to have gotten smaller in Y.

Interesting - I think they still serve plenty of food.

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 29):
As an aside, one explanation I could give for the many, many special meals is the booking system. You appear have taken the red-eye out of BOM which is optimized for connections to the US/Canada (getting in early AM, in time for the morning/afternoon flights westbound). 9W will always adequately cater veg/non veg, as is the Indian custom. With flights to N. America/Canada, meat options tend to be the norm, and with Indians generally avoiding beef, it just becomes more sensible to book a special meal

Sounds reasonable.

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 29):
When I called to move the booking two hours earlier (there was a nominal fee of $3) , the agent asked me if I would like Veg or Non Veg. Non-veg, I said. They served seafood on the flight - I do not eat seafood - so I went with the Veg option. I can't help but wonder if I messed up their system there.

  

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 30):
Best airline in North America, they say.

Well, what an achievement...  

Anyway, many thanks for all additional pieces of information about 9W!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 31):
correct, VT-JEB (now with TG, actually the one featured in Gabriels report) and VT-JEH.

Alright, good to hear you got two different ones.


PH



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1844 posts, RR: 42
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 25713 times:
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Hey PH, thanks for sharing! Nice series of trip reports. Jet looks very decent, and the mood lighting shots are amazing!

Best regards,

Martijn



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 25700 times:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 33):
Hey PH, thanks for sharing! Nice series of trip reports.

Hi Martijn, thanks for commenting!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 33):
Jet looks very decent, and the mood lighting shots are amazing!

I cannot get enough of mood lighting, I wish more airlines would use it.


PH



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2438 posts, RR: 53
Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 25617 times:

My friend PH,

I have been waiting for your 9W experience so long as you kept seducing us on how good 9W was. Finally, my anxiety has been satisfied. Abundantly, and how!  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the simple building wasn't equipped with an elevator, so we had to climb the stairs with our luggage.

Ouch, be careful with the stairs!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The water level was high, but not threatening in this part of the city:

  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
ATC tower:

Argh, behind ugly wires!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
No, this is not the hotel's pool area:

Thank Heaven. Somehow I imagine a crocodile hiding underneath.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nordwind Airlines Boeing 767-306ER VQ-BMQ

Isn’t it amazing that I spotted it four months later at the same airport?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9W067 to Mumbai was also operating as SN4138:

An interesting alternative tofly to BKK to BRU.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Impressive artwork and flowers in the check-in hall:

Beautiful. A must see at BKK!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Spotting was impossible due to the window layout...

Only self spotting…   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Very friendly and smiling flight attendants (females wearing pretty yellow uniform jackets) welcomed us on board.

Lovely. Did they do the folded arms when you entered the cabin?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

A 9W logo would work miracles.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Comic-style safety video:

To be honest, I preferred safety video with real people.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This was not surprising, because call buttons were being pressed all the time which kept these poor flight attendants extremely busy while serving meals.

My admiration to the flight attendants with their patience of a saint.   



Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?" Of course I was very surprised about that. Satchmo wasn't addressed by name

You are Mr. PlaneHunter, remember?   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Taking pictures at Indian airports is strictly forbidden, but Satchmo was being discrete:

Is this a new rule? Taking pictures at commercial airports has always been perfectly fine.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
it was impossible for me to log a single registration due to my position in that crowded vehicle.   

Bummer!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I immediately liked the interior which was in good condition and had been cleaned well.

The 77W interior looks just more appealing than the 738 one.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
it had already been broken.

I believe you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Nice wooden floor in the rear galley:

Cool!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
The active 777 fleet consists of only 5 frames. Did you listen, 9W?

Oops!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
After I had finished my ginger ale (no Schweppes, unfortunately), a friendly male flight attendant asked if I wanted another one. I

How attentive of him.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Ah, Qantas in the news again...   

Qantas kept haunting you somehow….

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I could see the brightly illuminated Palm Jumeirah - too bad it was not possible to take a decent picture.

Pity. But I just use my imagination.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
One of the friendly male flight attendants sprung into action and told me that it wasn't necessary to wait. "I will bring it to your seat", he said.

Wow, was it the one who offered you a second Ginger Ale? How did he look like? John Abraham?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
the mood lighting changed from dark blue to bright orange:

Beautiful!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I can only praise Jet Airways for serving such a big and tasty breakfast.   

You make me craving for Indian breakfast.


Thank you so much for sharing great pictures, exciting story and wonderful inspiration.  

Warm regards,
Suryo  



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5074 posts, RR: 55
Reply 36, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 25507 times:

WOW! What a fantastic ending to your trip! Thanks a lot for your report on Jet Airways. As some of my reports have indicated, I am a huge fan of them, and have only 1 flight with them (back in 2008 in JCL on BRU-EWR where I thought service was good, but slow) which was not as nice. The crew are always excellent and no requests are ever too big. I am not surprised by your high quality report. Jet is amongst the best in the world.

Thanks a lot for sharing it with us. You should have transited via DEL.

Saludos,
A.

PS: I don't understand what the issue with taking photos in Indian airport is ... as my many reports testify, I have had ZERO problems in any Indian airports that are not military shared. BOM is not a military airport, and you should have been totally fine.



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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1912 posts, RR: 24
Reply 37, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25407 times:
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Another great report, PH!

Looks like you had a great flight with Jet Airways. Food looks really nice for Economy Class, and I love the mood lighting shots of the 777. My fiancee has traveled before on Jet and loved them; it sounds like they are a nice airline to fly with.

Thanks for sharing!

Best,

Matthew


User currently offlinevivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 530 posts, RR: 3
Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 25007 times:

Nice TR PlaneHunter, with some good photos.

I recently flew on Jet Airways on the BOM-BKK-BOM sector, and the service was more or less as what you have described. The breakfast served on the outbound flight was barely enough in quantity whereas lunch on the return flight was adequate.

Any idea how many passengers from BKK were connecting to LHR?

The one negative bit was that our aircraft (VT-JGG both ways) was not equipped with PTVs. However, my 3 yr old son and my iPod kept me occupied and entertained!  

The overall experience on the 77W looks quite good too. Good to see that the loads were quite good on your flight. BOM-LHR continues to be a money-maker for 9W with two daily flights - both operated with a 77W.

As someone above has mentioned, it is fun to fly over major cities at night, to see them fully lit.

Cheers!
Vivek


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 39, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 24975 times:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
I have been waiting for your 9W experience so long as you kept seducing us on how good 9W was. Finally, my anxiety has been satisfied. Abundantly, and how!

Hi Suryo, many thanks for your nice words! I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Thank Heaven. Somehow I imagine a crocodile hiding underneath.

Or something else...I had the same thought.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Isn’t it amazing that I spotted it four months later at the same airport?

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Beautiful. A must see at BKK!

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Lovely. Did they do the folded arms when you entered the cabin?

I have to admit I cannot remember!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
A 9W logo would work miracles.

I can only agree.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
You are Mr. PlaneHunter, remember?

 

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Qantas kept haunting you somehow….

Yes, it never stopped on that journey.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Wow, was it the one who offered you a second Ginger Ale? How did he look like? John Abraham?

Haha - yes, I think it was him.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Thank you so much for sharing great pictures, exciting story and wonderful inspiration

Thanks again, Suryo!   

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 36):
WOW! What a fantastic ending to your trip! Thanks a lot for your report on Jet Airways.

Hi Alex, thanks a lot for your reply!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 36):
The crew are always excellent and no requests are ever too big.

Good to hear you can confirm that.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 36):
I am not surprised by your high quality report. Jet is amongst the best in the world.

I hope it will continue to focus on quality.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 36):
I don't understand what the issue with taking photos in Indian airport is ... as my many reports testify, I have had ZERO problems in any Indian airports that are not military shared. BOM is not a military airport, and you should have been totally fine.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 35):
Is this a new rule? Taking pictures at commercial airports has always been perfectly fine.

There have been so many negative reports about spotting in India that I had assumed it's a general rule. I checked again and found this:

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/201...ules-on-taking-photographs-of.html

It's interesting to note that not even security staff members know the rules in many cases. That may make it difficult even at airports where taking pictures is officially allowed.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 37):
Another great report, PH!

Hi Matthew, thanks for commenting!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 37):
Looks like you had a great flight with Jet Airways.

  

Quoting 767747 (Reply 37):
My fiancee has traveled before on Jet and loved them

Very good!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 37):
it sounds like they are a nice airline to fly with.

Absolutely, you should give it a try.

Quoting vivekman2006 (Reply 38):
Nice TR PlaneHunter, with some good photos.

Thank you, Vivek!

Quoting vivekman2006 (Reply 38):
I recently flew on Jet Airways on the BOM-BKK-BOM sector, and the service was more or less as what you have described.

Good to hear!

Quoting vivekman2006 (Reply 38):
The breakfast served on the outbound flight was barely enough in quantity whereas lunch on the return flight was adequate.

That's a bit disappointing.

Quoting vivekman2006 (Reply 38):
Any idea how many passengers from BKK were connecting to LHR?

My guess it there weren't so many.

Quoting vivekman2006 (Reply 38):
The one negative bit was that our aircraft (VT-JGG both ways) was not equipped with PTVs. However, my 3 yr old son and my iPod kept me occupied and entertained!

Alright, at least you didn't get bored then. I'm wondering how many 738s are equipped with PTVs.

Quoting vivekman2006 (Reply 38):
BOM-LHR continues to be a money-maker for 9W with two daily flights - both operated with a 77W.

Let's hope that won't change. Kingfisher's situation has certainly been good for 9W.

Quoting vivekman2006 (Reply 38):
As someone above has mentioned, it is fun to fly over major cities at night, to see them fully li

  


PH



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1221 posts, RR: 17
Reply 40, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 24905 times:

Hi PH

Another excellent report with lots of super pics. Nice to see a Jet Airways narrowbody report as well. They are relatively rare. Looks like they looked after you all the way to LHR - and an interesting way of getting to LHR from BKK, other than by the "usual" non stops which operate between the two cities.

The mood lighting on the 777 is very funky - I think you captured the colours very well.

As always, Satchmo has taken some fantastic pics - including the low light ones. In one of the descent into LHR pics, I can make out my apartment - very cool.

Thanks again - looking forward to more (as always). Also huge thanks for your assistance re MUC this past weekend. I did not end up getting time to email Satchmo, but thank you for all the info (and please thank him for me if you want - I hope he got some great pics).

Palmjet



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 41, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 24679 times:

Quoting palmjet (Reply 40):
Another excellent report with lots of super pics. Nice to see a Jet Airways narrowbody report as well.

Hi Palmjet, many thanks for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 40):
Looks like they looked after you all the way to LHR - and an interesting way of getting to LHR from BKK, other than by the "usual" non stops which operate between the two cities.

Yes, flying 9W between BKK and LHR was definitely something different.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 40):
As always, Satchmo has taken some fantastic pics - including the low light ones.

He'll be happy to hear that.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 40):
Thanks again - looking forward to more (as always). Also huge thanks for your assistance re MUC this past weekend. I did not end up getting time to email Satchmo, but thank you for all the info (and please thank him for me if you want - I hope he got some great pics).

Your welcome! I'm glad you had a great time at MUC. I'm looking forward to your report!



PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1658 posts, RR: 30
Reply 42, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 24653 times:
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Hello PH,

What an enjoyable read once again, accompanied by Satchmo’s nice pics (and yours as well of course  
I’m happy to see your 9W were to your complete satisfaction. I find however that the interior of the 737 looks a bit dull, no? As you know, 9W has this ‘mini-hub’ at BRU with nowadays only the A332’s flying there. There used to be an all 773 operation (6 of them daily!) but this sadly belongs to the past now 

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nice traditional roofs and rail station in the background:

Traditional and modern hand in hand.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This is the entrance of our hotel building:

What a laugh. you didn’t ask for a discount with that building entrance in such an abominable state?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nok Air Boeing 737-4M0 HS-DDQ, named "Nok Kiwi":

What a nice colour scheme on this one!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9W067 to Mumbai was also operating as SN4138

That’s an interesting codeshare. I believe SN has quite some codeshares with 9W.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

They do. If they serve the purpose of being replaced daily or so, I can understand they use these thin paper ones. But it is not stylish to say the least.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Headphones had already been placed in the seat pockets:

Cheap stuff. Was the sound quality any good?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
because call buttons were being pressed all the time which kept these poor flight attendants extremely busy while serving meals.

Oh my, they must have had a hard time. So they did not first finish service to other pax before attending to special requests?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing!

For sure they must’ve had a very good customer oriented training!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Taking pictures at Indian airports is strictly forbidden

I heard it is, annoying isn’t it...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Fleet information:

No mistakes?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
10 777s? Yes, in good old times. The active 777 fleet consists of only 5 frames. Did you listen, 9W?

… yes there is one!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Within a few minutes, the mood lighting changed from dark blue to bright orange:

Nice sequence of pics to show the mood lighting   

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!

Cool! I guess this happens quite frequently at LHR...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Qantas paid for all additional expenses caused by the fleet grounding, paid a compensation of €600 (EU regulations) and sent me a voucher worth €190 which I used just recently for a new and successful attempt to get on the carrier's A380.

I’m glad you got to recover some of your expenses. Apparently you already made good use of them! report to follow  

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 24632 times:

Hi PlaneHunter,

It has been a while since we saw a report from you here - so good to see you're still in the trip report business (if you can call it so). Nice pictures and well written as always!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nok Air Boeing 737-4M0 HS-DDQ, named "Nok Kiwi":

Exactly as Nils pointed out in his comments - this must be one of the most hilarious liveries out there! I'm sorry you wasn't able to join on the spotting trip - but at least they got some really nice shots there!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
two opposing aisle seats

Are you cheating, PH? No window seat?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Very friendly and smiling flight attendants (females wearing pretty yellow uniform jackets) welcomed us on board. The cabin was in good condition and had been cleaned well. Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

Hmm, I don't like the look of the cabin and most of all the head rest covers look like cheap supermarket stuff. A word, a logo, something would have been nice to spice it up!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
They started discussing with the security people, but those just grumbled: "We have to wait for permission from the UK."

Why on earth would they need permission from UK to start boarding? Something similar happened on my HEL-EDI flight on Blue1 last summer as the opening of check-in counters were delayed because of "we need permission from Edinburgh". I just don't get it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Very friendly flight attendants kept welcoming us on the way to the last row. I immediately liked the interior which was in good condition and had been cleaned well. The 18.5-inch wide seats were very comfortable...

These seats look much more inviting! But then again we're on the 777 this time...  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
It was a pleasure, Jet Airways:

It really does seem like 9W did the job! Nice meals, modern aircraft, friendly crews and finally the go-around thrown in as an extra experience!

Keep flying high & best wishes,

717Flyer   


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24538 times:

Nice report Udo - looks liek Jet are quite nice internationally

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The cabin was in good condition and had been cleaned well. Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

Seats look great, but I agree about the headrests

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Anyway, the pretty female flight attendant finally showed up, had a look at a list and said: "Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?" Of course I was very surprised about that. Satchmo wasn't addressed by name, btw. The flight attendant offered chicken and a vegetarian meal and I ordered the former:

The variation in service seems a bit odd, but nice at the same time



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23947 times:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
What an enjoyable read once again, accompanied by Satchmo’s nice pics (and yours as well of course

Hi Nils, thanks a lot for your feedback! Good to hear you enjoyed reading.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
I find however that the interior of the 737 looks a bit dull, no?

A little bit, yes. But there are many worse interiors out there.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
As you know, 9W has this ‘mini-hub’ at BRU with nowadays only the A332’s flying there. There used to be an all 773 operation (6 of them daily!) but this sadly belongs to the past now

Good old times!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
What a laugh. you didn’t ask for a discount with that building entrance in such an abominable state?

It was quite cheap...

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
What a nice colour scheme on this one!

   They have even better ones!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
Cheap stuff. Was the sound quality any good?

It was okay.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
So they did not first finish service to other pax before attending to special requests?

No, they immediately reacted to the requests.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
For sure they must’ve had a very good customer oriented training!

No doubt about that!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
I’m glad you got to recover some of your expenses. Apparently you already made good use of them! report to follow

Yes, absolutely. Report to follow...in a few months.  

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 43):
It has been a while since we saw a report from you here - so good to see you're still in the trip report business (if you can call it so). Nice pictures and well written as always!

Hi 717Flyer, many thanks for your feedback! Of course I'm still in the business, I just don't have enough time to produce these reports faster.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 43):
Exactly as Nils pointed out in his comments - this must be one of the most hilarious liveries out there!

They have different schemes, one can only praise them for that.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 43):
Are you cheating, PH? No window seat?

Oh, that's not unsual. I prefer aisle seats on night flights.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 43):
Why on earth would they need permission from UK to start boarding?

They were just waiting for permission for these two guys, some documents had raised suspicion.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 43):
It really does seem like 9W did the job! Nice meals, modern aircraft, friendly crews and finally the go-around thrown in as an extra experience!

  

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 44):
Nice report Udo - looks liek Jet are quite nice internationally

Hi Gabriel, thanks for commenting! Too bad you had a disppointing domestic flight on Jet/JetLite.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 44):
The variation in service seems a bit odd, but nice at the same time

  


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6406 posts, RR: 39
Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 23888 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):

Wow, that sounds really bad!
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):
Sure, it must be annoying. And some passengers were really rude and behaved like princes on the BKK-BOM segment.

Yes, his description was something rather close to how you put it too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):

Usually that's the way to go, but it was a bit difficult at BOM.

Fair enough, I suppose you can't win all the time. At least you've got room to return sometime in the future.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):

That's too bad. Airlines should use mood lighting more intensively.

Indeed, they should - especially if they have the capability of doing so. It's such a waste of the technology provided to help people try to overcome jetlag more quickly.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):

Lots of work ahead...

Haha, as the case is for many of us!


Cheers,
Nicholas



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 23730 times:

Hi PH,

(as always) an impressive report about an airline not too much covered here. Thanks for completing this! Jet Airways look really good here -- quite a fitting airline for me at the moment as I am currently in Brussels  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had already been sick

On this trip as well? Hopefully you are in better shape on your next trip.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
130th airline

Impressive! I remember your Tyrolean report like it was yesterday.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!

Congrats! But at 350+ flights it was about time!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26847 posts, RR: 58
Reply 48, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 23585 times:

Hey Udo ,

Great report and nice to see a Jet Airways one on this route. I love the interiors too. Although I never officially flew on them I flew their leased one to TK in the F Suites and a few Jet Airways crew members so it was like a Turkish - Indian fusion  

Im glad you had a good trip and some lovely spotting shots too.

Thanks for the report.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 49, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 23106 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 46):
Fair enough, I suppose you can't win all the time. At least you've got room to return sometime in the future.

  

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 46):
It's such a waste of the technology provided to help people try to overcome jetlag more quickly.

So true!

Quoting volvair (Reply 47):
(as always) an impressive report about an airline not too much covered here. Thanks for completing this!

Many thanks for your feedback, volvair!

Quoting volvair (Reply 47):
Jet Airways look really good here -- quite a fitting airline for me at the moment as I am currently in Brussels

You should give it a try on a transatlantic hop!

Quoting volvair (Reply 47):
On this trip as well? Hopefully you are in better shape on your next trip.

Yes, I haven't been lucky recently.

Quoting volvair (Reply 47):
Impressive! I remember your Tyrolean report like it was yesterday.

Nice to hear you remember my report about my 100th airline...I flew on VO in July 2010.

Quoting volvair (Reply 47):
Congrats! But at 350+ flights it was about time!

Sure. And it happened again on the next trip!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 48):
Great report and nice to see a Jet Airways one on this route.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 48):
Im glad you had a good trip and some lovely spotting shots too.

Hi Philip, thanks for your reply!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 48):
Although I never officially flew on them I flew their leased one to TK in the F Suites and a few Jet Airways crew members so it was like a Turkish - Indian fusion

Yes, I remember that report!



PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlinewin1290 From Thailand, joined Jan 2012, 280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 50, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22968 times:

Hi PH,

Really enjoyed reading your trip report! Thanks. Jet Airways seems a very nice airline from your experience, cabin crew sounds amazing. Very nice to see the 738 with IFE. But I do prefer the interior colour of the 77W though.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request. And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing!

Amazing indeed!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Thai-style main course tasted very good - tender meat, crisp vegetables, well-cooked rice

Looks like a Panang curry, one of my favourite!

Thanks,

Win


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 51, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22595 times:

Quoting win1290 (Reply 50):

Really enjoyed reading your trip report! Thanks.

Hi Win, thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting win1290 (Reply 50):
Jet Airways seems a very nice airline from your experience, cabin crew sounds amazing.

  

Quoting win1290 (Reply 50):
Very nice to see the 738 with IFE. But I do prefer the interior colour of the 77W though.

Yes, I agree with you.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 50):
Looks like a Panang curry, one of my favourite!

Interesting, thanks!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (2 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 22359 times:

I haven't flown 9W longhaul in a while, but this trip report reminded me exactly why I pefer Air India so much.

31" pitch? That's a real squeeze for a midhaul flight.
1 hour to wait for meal? I usually sit in the back of AI's 777, and AI FAs face the same troubles that 9W staff do (tons of requests). But I have never waited more than 20 minutes.
The meal looks fantastic compared to North American carriers, but AI's meals generally are better.
The IFE looks like it has some of the randomest programming I've ever seen.

The only thing it looks like 9W does better than AI in is ground handling from what I can see in your report. Based on past experience, they also generally do a better job with IRROPS. But otherwise, AI is the way to go.

[Edited 2012-05-25 18:44:15]


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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1739 posts, RR: 39
Reply 53, posted (2 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 22131 times:

Fantastic trip report as always PlaneHunter.

Glad to see you got to try Jet Airways, and even better to hear you had some excellent flights with them. I myself have only had one international experience with them that left me very unimpressed. Transferring in BOM is not the most seamless of experiences, but it looks like it was not too bad for you. The transfer in DEL is definitely better.

Again, glad to see you enjoyed some true Indian hospitality. Jet Airways really can be an amazing experience if all your stars line up.


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 54, posted (2 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 22087 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
The only thing it looks like 9W does better than AI in is ground handling from what I can see in your report. Based on past experience, they also generally do a better job with IRROPS. But otherwise, AI is the way to go.

Aeroblogger: have to respectfully competely disagree on this view. Ground and IRROPs handling are of crticial importance to most business travellers, and that is where AI completely drops the ball. Random lines for check-in, waiting an hour for bags to come out, no regard to priority tagging, etc are AI hallmarks. As well as complete chaos during IRROPS.

Inflight too, Jet is far more "up-to-date" with their premium product, and more friendly and professional than AI.

The one area Jet completely has dropped the ball on is airport lounges. Can't believe they don't have their own in BOM and DEL especially.


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 55, posted (2 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 22080 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
I haven't flown 9W longhaul in a while, but this trip report reminded me exactly why I pefer Air India so much.

Hi aeroblogger, thanks for your comments, good to hear your opinion.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
31" pitch? That's a real squeeze for a midhaul flight.

Well, it wasn't bad on 9W's 738. 31" is what you find on many long-haul carriers, including LH and QF.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
1 hour to wait for meal? I usually sit in the back of AI's 777, and AI FAs face the same troubles that 9W staff do (tons of requests). But I have never waited more than 20 minutes.

I guess it always takes longer on a narrowbody.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
The meal looks fantastic compared to North American carriers, but AI's meals generally are better.

The meals were also good in comparison to Asian and European carriers.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
The IFE looks like it has some of the randomest programming I've ever seen.

There's a huge selection of movies and lots of other stuff - it's not like EK's ICE, but still absolutely fine.

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 53):
Fantastic trip report as always PlaneHunter.

Many thanks for your feedback, SR 103! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 53):
I myself have only had one international experience with them that left me very unimpressed.

That's too bad - probably it'll be better next time?

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 53):
Transferring in BOM is not the most seamless of experiences, but it looks like it was not too bad for you.

Yes, it was alright, better than expected.

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 53):
The transfer in DEL is definitely better.

That's what I have heard, too.

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 53):
Again, glad to see you enjoyed some true Indian hospitality. Jet Airways really can be an amazing experience if all your stars line up.

  

Quoting sankaps (Reply 54):
Aeroblogger: have to respectfully competely disagree on this view. Ground and IRROPs handling are of crticial importance to most business travellers, and that is where AI completely drops the ball. Random lines for check-in, waiting an hour for bags to come out, no regard to priority tagging, etc are AI hallmarks. As well as complete chaos during IRROPS.

Hi sankaps, good to hear your opinion, too. What you say confirms what I have heard about AI many times.

Quoting sankaps (Reply 54):
The one area Jet completely has dropped the ball on is airport lounges. Can't believe they don't have their own in BOM and DEL especially.

Interesting aspect.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (2 years 2 months 12 hours ago) and read 22061 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 54):
have to respectfully competely disagree on this view. Ground and IRROPs handling are of crticial importance to most business travellers, and that is where AI completely drops the ball. Random lines for check-in, waiting an hour for bags to come out, no regard to priority tagging, etc are AI hallmarks. As well as complete chaos during IRROPS.

I guess I'm spoiled by HYD - no matter how much SATS wants to screw the ground experience up, it isn't easy.
I'm sure AI is a nightmare on the ground in BOM, but I never go to BOM so it doesn't matter  

At HYD, DEL, BLR, IXE (the 4 airports I frequent), Air India generally has clear lines, bags usually come out in reasonable time, priority tags work about 60-70% of the time, and IRROPS tends to be less chaotic.

Quoting sankaps (Reply 54):

Inflight too, Jet is far more "up-to-date" with their premium product, and more friendly and professional than AI.

I disagree completely on this. I've had the chance to test out both the 9W A330 J seat and the AI 777 J seat for 15-20 minutes (can't afford to fly in it sadly), and the AI seat is much more comfortable. The IFE is also better on AI. Staff on AI tend to be older and more experienced at their job, which I prefer to the younger and easy to please (but sometimes completely incompetent) in-flight service you get on Jet.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 55):
Well, it wasn't bad on 9W's 738. 31" is what you find on many long-haul carriers, including LH and QF.

I don't fly them either 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 55):
I guess it always takes longer on a narrowbody.

Yeah, but an hour is excessive.



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User currently offlineElPistolero From Canada, joined Feb 2012, 1007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 57, posted (2 years 2 months 10 hours ago) and read 21978 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
The IFE looks like it has some of the randomest programming I've ever seen.

AIs IFE programming is the worst AVOD IFE I have ever used. This is made up for, somewhat, by the camera views). Flew them three times in Y and J. Probably 6 English movies on the entire system, with another three hidden away in the German section. All old releases.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
The meal looks fantastic compared to North American carriers, but AI's meals generally are better.

Flown both carriers in Y and J - short and long-haul more than once, domestic and international. Quantity and quality-wise, if it was a boxing match, the referee would end it before it even started - thats how unfair the match-up is to AI. Its not even a fair comparison. AI's quality is good; 9Ws is just much better. AI has even done one-tray services (main, appetiser, etc altogether - that does not happen in 9W) in long haul J for the main meal (Not snack) - no different to what you now get in TK Y+ (except that TK's quantities were larger)

Other areas where 9W beats AI - professional cabin crew not assigning out seats without asking pax if they're willing to change, amenity kit, seats (AI is not full flat), headphones, cabin crew taking jackets on entering the aircraft (a pet peeve of mine). 9W has hangars ready to go; AI crew have to be asked.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
But otherwise, AI is the way to go.

AI IRROPs are a masterpiece in confusion (and I ve flown TK through IRROP Central , ie - IST).

AI is the way to go. Unless 9W is operating on the same route. Then 9W is the way to go.

But its true - I d fly AI over any N. American carrier.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5133 posts, RR: 55
Reply 58, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 21870 times:

Hey, PH,

really good to follow you´re final part of the latest, or not, Asia trip.
Interesting to follow Jet Airways with the friendly FA´s. Something to notice here.
Great pictures all the way.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 59, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 21633 times:

Hi PH,

good to read about the final part of your Asian adventure. Looks like your flights with Jet Airways were a great endpoint to your trip, especially after the trouble you had at the beginning. Quite impressed by their service, also the food looks quite good, and some generous portions as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We had planned to switch off the air conditioning device at night, but that turned out to be a bad idea.

That's one thing I don't like when in tropics. You have the choice of uncomfortable heat or risk a cold with the air conditioning.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nok Air Boeing 737-4M0 HS-DDQ, named "Nok Kiwi":

Now that's a funny livery, really like it a lot.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After a route change, we flew straight over Dubai and I could see the brightly illuminated Palm Jumeirah

Cool, I have once seen this as well from the air at night, indeed an impressive sight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We didn't mind about that and enjoyed the views:

I wouldn't mind either, with views like that of the morning dawn over London, great pictures.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!

Congrats, a go-around is definitely a great experience, must be especially great on the 777 with the powerful GE90s. I had one on my first (and only) flight on a 727 back in the 90s in STL, that was an interesting experience as well. Coincidentally that was because of other traffic on the runway as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Qantas paid for all additional expenses caused by the fleet grounding, paid a compensation of €600 (EU regulations) and sent me a voucher worth €190 which I used just recently for a new and successful attempt to get on the carrier's A380.

Good, at least a little compensation from Qantas after all that trouble.

Thanks again for this wonderful report
CaptainRed


User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 60, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 21566 times:

Hi PH!

Great report just as usual!
Jet seems to be a really nice airline, I'd love to fly them some day!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Impressive artwork and flowers in the check-in hall:

BKK does indeed seem to be a very impressive airport.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The 18.5-inch wide seats were very comfortable...

The seat does look really nice overall.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!

Congratulations. How awesome it must be to experience a go-around on such a mean beast as the 77W!

I have very much enjoyed reading this tripreport series!

Martin


User currently offlineLH4532 From Germany, joined Sep 2011, 81 posts, RR: 12
Reply 61, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 21287 times:

Hello PlaneHunter,

I finally have the time to read and reply this Trip Report. You put it online while my biking tour.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
free Wi-Fi

That´s at least something. Not every hotel offers free Wi-fi.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
had a look at a list and said: "Mr. PlaneHunter?

That is very nice of her calling you by name.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the flight attendants served a hot snack

The size of the snack is just perfect.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I opted for the latter

Nice breakfast. I would like to try it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!

Awesome. That is something you will not forget that soon.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Business Class seat

I think many other carriers kind of have the same Business Class seat.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Qantas paid for all additional expenses caused by the fleet grounding, paid a compensation of €600 (EU regulations) and sent me a voucher worth €190 which I used just recently for a new and successful attempt to get on the carrier's A380.

Good to know how it all turned out to be, PlaneHunter.


I very much enjoyed reading this TR. Keep up the good work.


Daniel ( LH4532 )


User currently offlineInitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1053 posts, RR: 15
Reply 62, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21247 times:

Hi PH,

Congrats on completing another trip report! As with your other reports, I enjoyed this one thoroughly.

The Queen's Garden Resort was the hotel I considered to stay in previously when I transited in BKK but in the end decided to stay in the airport instead. Views from the rooftop looks amazing!

Jet Airways is an airline I've always been curious about. They look pretty good for an Indian airline and is pretty much a huge bonus to have PTVs in most (or was it all?) of their narrowbody fleet, on top of their widebody fleet. The chicken meal on your BKK-BOM leg looks pretty promising. The Indian style version looks even nicer!

PTVs on their 77Ws looks pretty huge honestly, I wouldn't mind spending a long flight with those accompanying me. However, I am certainly not impressed by the broken cup holder!

Do they sell airplane models in the JetBoutique magazine?

Meals on the BOM-LHR leg looks pretty promising as usual but could be a tad too small for me.

Looking forward to more trip reports to come!

Regards,
Daniel



One way I will fly around the world!
User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5074 posts, RR: 55
Reply 63, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 21040 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 52):
I haven't flown 9W longhaul in a while, but this trip report reminded me exactly why I pefer Air India so much.

31" pitch? That's a real squeeze for a midhaul flight.
1 hour to wait for meal? I usually sit in the back of AI's 777, and AI FAs face the same troubles that 9W staff do (tons of requests). But I have never waited more than 20 minutes.
The meal looks fantastic compared to North American carriers, but AI's meals generally are better.
The IFE looks like it has some of the randomest programming I've ever seen.

The only thing it looks like 9W does better than AI in is ground handling from what I can see in your report. Based on past experience, they also generally do a better job with IRROPS. But otherwise, AI is the way to go.

= As much as I have good experiences on AI (documented here several times over), I really don't get your overall "hate" for anything that is not AI. 9W is consistently a better airline on all fronts -- sure, AI has some great staff members ( who care about their passengers and I have been at the positive receiving end of the same - sure, they have probably one of the best MTC and technically sound pilots out there ... but as an organization, it ranks as one of the worst run places in the world where the airline and the government share blame. Only probably management structure at AR, MS, IB, SV, PK, and BG (of the majors) come close.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 20960 times:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 63):
I really don't get your overall "hate" for anything that is not AI.

I don't hate everything that isn't AI. There are many better airlines out there. What I disagree with is that:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 63):
9W is consistently a better airline on all fronts

I've flown both often (although not 9W longhaul), and AI has consistently been better.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 63):
but as an organization, it ranks as one of the worst run places in the world

I agree, AI is very poorly run for a variety of reasons. That does not necessarily (and definitely does not in this case) translate into a poor passenger experience.



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User currently offlinebyronicle6 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2011, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20877 times:

Hi PH,

Another nice TR from you.
9W sound like a pretty decent airline! One i dont know too much about. Food looks of a good standard as does the service.
Great to see IFE of such a high quality on your 737-800 flight. It looks very good and modern with plenty of entertainment options to keep anyone occupied.
I really like the mood lighting on the BOM-LHR sector. It looks very relaxing to have that on a long-haul night flight!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Despite the chaotic and stressful start, the trip was a very exciting, enjoyable and successful one. I flew on 7 new airlines, visited 5 new airports and logged a total of 349 new registrations.

Impressive! I havent been to BOM but BKK has a great range of aircraft and airlines present

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, we were cleared to land and dived into thick fog so that we couldn't even see the wingtip any more. The visibility was really bad and the ground came into view rather late on final approach. However, just when we were expecting the wheels to touch down, the GE90s suddenly roared and powerfully accelerated the plane again - that was my first go-around!         

Wow! How awesome. Definitely not your usual end to a flight! You gotta love the GE90's

Byronicle6


User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 66, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 20839 times:

Hi PH,

as always it was a pleasure following another one of your tours. Well written with some great pictures.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

It looks very cheap! But the pillows and blankets make up for it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Anyway, the pretty female flight attendant finally showed up, had a look at a list and said: "Mr. PlaneHunter? What would you like to have for dinner?"

Wow, addresing by name, thumbs up Jet Airways!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Nice wooden floor in the rear galley:

Nice, looks classy.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Very nice reading light - much better than the bright ones installed overhead:

Nice concept, you get better light for reading and you do not disturb other passengers as it can happen when someone turns on the overhead reading light.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Never had a go-around before myself. Must have been quite interesting to have your first one on a 77W!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Despite the chaotic and stressful start, the trip was a very exciting, enjoyable and successful one. I flew on 7 new airlines, visited 5 new airports and logged a total of 349 new registrations. Qantas paid for all additional expenses caused by the fleet grounding, paid a compensation of €600 (EU regulations) and sent me a voucher worth €190 which I used just recently for a new and successful attempt to get on the carrier's A380.

Great statistics for a trip   And I'm glad everything worked out pretty good at the end, despite the chaotic start. Was this your biggest aviation-oriented trip so far?

Blaž



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User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2269 posts, RR: 7
Reply 67, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 20651 times:

Hi PH,

Finally got some time to read and comment on this report.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pillows and blankets had been placed on the comfortable 17-inch wide leather seats - but do you agree with me that the head rest covers look a bit cheap?

Yeah, it does look a bit cheap. I don't think there's a way that kind of headrest cover can look good, though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
briefly talked to a male flight attendant and expressed my happiness over getting a 737 with PTVs. He smiled and said: "Yes, it's one of the newer ones."

Hmm... He wasn't as enthusiastic as you were  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What I didn't like was the cool temperature in the cabin and I pointed that out to a pretty female flight attendant. "It will get warmer later", she promised with a smile.

Hmmm... Better than in the USA... It was a nice temperature inside my aircraft... Then they announced "sorry for the heat". It got much colder very soon and I was dressed for Florida. Hehe.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, the nice crew members always kept smiling and patiently tried to satisfy every request. And I also noticed that they never said "no", but always tried to find alternative terms. Amazing!

Yes, very good service, indeed... Of course, that sounds like what I'd expect from a good Asian airline.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Officers with grim faces additionally checked all travelers with hand scanners after they had passed the metal detector. Many bags were hand inspected, but ours were left out. We finally arrived in the transit area which looked nicer than the area near the security checkpoints. However, you cannot get access to the gates and you cannot see anything outside. There wasn't much to do, so we kept reading during the next two hours.

Ah, yes, the spotter-unfriendly Indian terminals. It's too bad. Although, I think I heard that they passed a law saying photography is now permitted at non-military airports?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Anyway, we could finally proceed to the aircraft which turned out to be VT-JEG, delivered factory fresh in late 2007. It was not possible to take a picture of the plane due to a lack of windows - but I guess we wouldn't have tried even if we had been able to.

Well, at least you found out the reg--was this on your arrival or did you ask someone about it?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Nice wooden floor in the rear galley:

Looks classy.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had finished my ginger ale (no Schweppes, unfortunately), a friendly male flight attendant asked if I wanted another one. I agreed and he quickly delivered. Very attentive service!

Good on 9W.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Alright, it must have been Bucharest:

Nice view. Yes, it seems that way, although it did take me a while to make sure  

Of course, the map confirms it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Flying Jet Airways was a great pleasure. Both the 737 and the 777 were in good shape and equipped with comfortable seats and modern and convenient IFE systems. All ground staff and flight crew members were very friendly and service-orientated, the catering was very good both in terms of quality and quantity. Jet Airways calls itself "India's finest international airline" - well, I haven't flown on other Indian carriers yet, but I can confirm that Jet Airways is among the finest airlines I have tried - and it's definitely more reliable than the country's big state carrier.

Good to know. 9W seems to be a good carrier.

Thanks again for your report, PH!


User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 68, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 20156 times:
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Another brilliant trip report, thank you very much for sharing.

Jet Airways looks very good and their food looks enjoyable too (must admit I can't say Ive ever seen a packet of ketchup on a plane myself) and the entertainment system looks very good considering the flights length.

The photos throughout the report illustrated your journey well and certainly show the products offered well.

Thanks for sharing and as always I eagerly await your next report.

Kev.



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User currently offlineparis380 From France, joined Jul 2011, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19795 times:

Good reporting. Jet Airways is very good from your report, but I am a little scared of going via transit in Asian airports.

User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 2992 posts, RR: 8
Reply 70, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 19306 times:

Hi PlaneHunter,

not sure how I missed this one, your final leg of the Asian trip!

I'm always wary of transiting in places where a visa is required to visit, such as India, in case of delays etc. but you seem to have been lucky.

In BKK ok hotel, but certainly good for the airport, just a shame you weren't feeling great, and the wrong runways were being used!

Service is always better on Asian carriers, and your experiences add proof to this. Very attentive by the staff, and good, substantial meals. Bizarre how there were 2 different chicken dishes!

Thanks again for the series!

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 71, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18860 times:

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 57):
Probably 6 English movies on the entire system, with another three hidden away in the German section. All old releases.

That's indeed disappointing!

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 57):
Flown both carriers in Y and J - short and long-haul more than once, domestic and international. Quantity and quality-wise, if it was a boxing match, the referee would end it before it even started - thats how unfair the match-up is to AI. Its not even a fair comparison. AI's quality is good; 9Ws is just much better. AI has even done one-tray services (main, appetiser, etc altogether - that does not happen in 9W) in long haul J for the main meal (Not snack) - no different to what you now get in TK Y+ (except that TK's quantities were larger)

Other areas where 9W beats AI - professional cabin crew not assigning out seats without asking pax if they're willing to change, amenity kit, seats (AI is not full flat), headphones, cabin crew taking jackets on entering the aircraft (a pet peeve of mine). 9W has hangars ready to go; AI crew have to be asked.

Interesting, thanks!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 58):
really good to follow you´re final part of the latest, or not, Asia trip.
Interesting to follow Jet Airways with the friendly FA´s. Something to notice here.
Great pictures all the way.

Thanks for your feedback, Markus! 9W is an airline to recommend.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
good to read about the final part of your Asian adventure.
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
Thanks again for this wonderful report

Hi CaptainRed, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
Looks like your flights with Jet Airways were a great endpoint to your trip, especially after the trouble you had at the beginning.

Yes, it ws a nice ending.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
Quite impressed by their service, also the food looks quite good, and some generous portions as well.

  

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
That's one thing I don't like when in tropics. You have the choice of uncomfortable heat or risk a cold with the air conditioning.

That's true, really bad.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
Now that's a funny livery, really like it a lot.

They have even more colorful versions!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
Congrats, a go-around is definitely a great experience, must be especially great on the 777 with the powerful GE90s.

Yes, absolutely.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
I had one on my first (and only) flight on a 727 back in the 90s in STL, that was an interesting experience as well. Coincidentally that was because of other traffic on the runway as well.

Great, must have been an awesome experience as well.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 59):
Good, at least a little compensation from Qantas after all that trouble.

  

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 60):
Great report just as usual!

Hi Martin, thank you for your feedback!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 60):
Jet seems to be a really nice airline, I'd love to fly them some day!

You really should!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 60):
BKK does indeed seem to be a very impressive airport.

With weaknesses...

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 60):
Congratulations. How awesome it must be to experience a go-around on such a mean beast as the 77W!

It was awesome indeed!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 60):
I have very much enjoyed reading this tripreport series!

Thanks again!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 61):
I finally have the time to read and reply this Trip Report. You put it online while my biking tour.

Servus Daniel, thank you very much for your reply!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 61):
That´s at least something. Not every hotel offers free Wi-fi.

We hadn't expected that.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 61):
That is very nice of her calling you by name.

  

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 61):
Awesome. That is something you will not forget that soon.

No, definitely not.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 61):
Good to know how it all turned out to be, PlaneHunter.

  

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 61):
I very much enjoyed reading this TR. Keep up the good work.

Thank you. It will take some more time until the next one will be online. I guess I will already tell you a bit about the other trips in August. We should have plenty of time to talk at MUC!

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
Congrats on completing another trip report! As with your other reports, I enjoyed this one thoroughly.

Hi Daniel, thanks a lot for your comments! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
The Queen's Garden Resort was the hotel I considered to stay in previously when I transited in BKK but in the end decided to stay in the airport instead. Views from the rooftop looks amazing!

It would have been great to see approaching aircraft from there.

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
They look pretty good for an Indian airline and is pretty much a huge bonus to have PTVs in most (or was it all?) of their narrowbody fleet, on top of their widebody fleet.

No, there are plenty of 738s without PTVs. Unfortunately, I have no idea about the exact number.

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
The Indian style version looks even nicer!

  

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
PTVs on their 77Ws looks pretty huge honestly, I wouldn't mind spending a long flight with those accompanying me.

The cabin was very comfortable in general.

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
However, I am certainly not impressed by the broken cup holder!

Well, such things can happen.

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
Do they sell airplane models in the JetBoutique magazine?

No, I didn't see any.

Quoting Initious (Reply 62):
Looking forward to more trip reports to come!

There will be plenty of them...the question is when.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 63):
= As much as I have good experiences on AI (documented here several times over), I really don't get your overall "hate" for anything that is not AI. 9W is consistently a better airline on all fronts -- sure, AI has some great staff members ( who care about their passengers and I have been at the positive receiving end of the same - sure, they have probably one of the best MTC and technically sound pilots out there ... but as an organization, it ranks as one of the worst run places in the world where the airline and the government share blame. Only probably management structure at AR, MS, IB, SV, PK, and BG (of the majors) come close.

Thanks for all these pieces of information.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 65):
Another nice TR from you.

Many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 65):
9W sound like a pretty decent airline! One i dont know too much about. Food looks of a good standard as does the service.

  

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 65):
Great to see IFE of such a high quality on your 737-800 flight. It looks very good and modern with plenty of entertainment options to keep anyone occupied.

Yes, one can easily spend a few hours on these 738s.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 65):
I really like the mood lighting on the BOM-LHR sector. It looks very relaxing to have that on a long-haul night flight!

Yes, absolutely. But they should have used it throughout the whole flight.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 65):
Impressive! I havent been to BOM but BKK has a great range of aircraft and airlines present

I got most registrations at SIN and KUL this time. I would love spotting at BOM, but that's complicated.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 65):
Wow! How awesome. Definitely not your usual end to a flight! You gotta love the GE90's

Absolutely!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 66):
as always it was a pleasure following another one of your tours. Well written with some great pictures.

Hi Blaž, thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 66):
It looks very cheap! But the pillows and blankets make up for it.

  

Quoting SloAir (Reply 66):
Wow, addresing by name, thumbs up Jet Airways!

Yes!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 66):
Nice concept, you get better light for reading and you do not disturb other passengers as it can happen when someone turns on the overhead reading light.

I found that very nice, had never seen it before in Y Class.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 66):
Never had a go-around before myself. Must have been quite interesting to have your first one on a 77W!

No doubt about that!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 66):
Great statistics for a trip And I'm glad everything worked out pretty good at the end, despite the chaotic start. Was this your biggest aviation-oriented trip so far?

It depends whether I count flights, airlines or registrations. My RTW trip was the most exciting one, but it was not purely aviation-orientated.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 67):
Finally got some time to read and comment on this report.

Hi dc9northwest, many thanks for your comments! Good to hear from you!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 67):
I don't think there's a way that kind of headrest cover can look good, though.

Well, they could use a leather headrest cover with the 9W logo.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 67):
Yes, very good service, indeed... Of course, that sounds like what I'd expect from a good Asian airline.

But you don't see that on all major Asian carriers. The 9W crews were outstanding.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 67):
Ah, yes, the spotter-unfriendly Indian terminals. It's too bad.

  

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 67):
Although, I think I heard that they passed a law saying photography is now permitted at non-military airports?

Yes, I think so. But you never know whether security staff members are aware of it.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 67):
Well, at least you found out the reg--was this on your arrival or did you ask someone about it?

We could see it shortly before stepping on board.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 67):
Good to know. 9W seems to be a good carrier.

  

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 68):
Another brilliant trip report, thank you very much for sharing.

Hi Kev, thanks so much for your feedback!

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 68):
Jet Airways looks very good and their food looks enjoyable too (must admit I can't say Ive ever seen a packet of ketchup on a plane myself) and the entertainment system looks very good considering the flights length.

Yes, we were really impressed.

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 68):
The photos throughout the report illustrated your journey well and certainly show the products offered well.

Thanks!

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 68):
Thanks for sharing and as always I eagerly await your next report.

Good to know!

Quoting paris380 (Reply 69):
Good reporting. Jet Airways is very good from your report, but I am a little scared of going via transit in Asian airports.

Thanks for your comments! Transferring at BOM is not so bad, but it should be better at DEL.

Quoting signol (Reply 70):
not sure how I missed this one, your final leg of the Asian trip!

Hi signol, thanks for replying!

Quoting signol (Reply 70):
I'm always wary of transiting in places where a visa is required to visit, such as India, in case of delays etc. but you seem to have been lucky.

Yes, it was alright this time. But after having been unable to leave SIN due to health reasons in May, I may think twice about a transit in India or other places again.

Quoting signol (Reply 70):
In BKK ok hotel, but certainly good for the airport, just a shame you weren't feeling great, and the wrong runways were being used!

Bad luck twice!

Quoting signol (Reply 70):
Service is always better on Asian carriers, and your experiences add proof to this. Very attentive by the staff, and good, substantial meals. Bizarre how there were 2 different chicken dishes!

9W was indeed a great choice.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 72, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 18609 times:

Hi PH,
sorry for my late reply, you know the reason. I finally managed to read this report on Jet Airways and am truly impressed. Good service, nice meals, cabin in good conditions and comfortable flights. What else you need? They seem to offer it all.
Would the experience on the 77W be better compared to their A330 flights (e.g. ex BRU?). They do quite a lot accross the Atlantic and can be an interesting option these days.

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6714 posts, RR: 78
Reply 73, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16199 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 71):
sorry for my late reply, you know the reason.

Hi Eric, many thanks for your feedback! I also say sorry for my late reply.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 71):
Good service, nice meals, cabin in good conditions and comfortable flights. What else you need? They seem to offer it all.

Yes, 9W's product is really impressive.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 71):
Would the experience on the 77W be better compared to their A330 flights (e.g. ex BRU?). They do quite a lot accross the Atlantic and can be an interesting option these days.

I think you can expect a similar product and similar service on the A332 flights. I wouldn't hesitate to take one!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
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