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Going Retro, Chasing The Sun: BA B763 To Cyprus  
User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1224 posts, RR: 17
Posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 19619 times:

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Rain. Mother nature’s way of ensuring the earth remains hydrated. For much of us in England, we have recently found ourselves surrounded by a strange turn of events when it comes to rain. For the past few weeks – although it feels more like months, we’ve had nothing but rain, yet we are also being told that these same parts of the UK are officially in drought. Nobody can quite work it out, other than being told that due to a lack of consistent rain in these parts over the past couple of years, we need lots and lots of good soaking rain to replenish our water sources. The recent rain has so far made little impact. While rain does not ordinarily bother me (how can it when I chose to voluntarily move to the UK?), I had been lately craving for just a couple of days of uninterrupted sunshine with no traces of water falling from the sky.

Thankfully, the first May Bank Holiday of the year was looming, and what better opportunity to chase the sun than to consider a short trip-ette away somewhere warm. A number of destinations were considered before finally deciding that I would heard to Larnaca (LCA) in Cyprus for 3 days and 2 nights. Why Larnaca? Firstly Cyprus has a great reputation for having generally good weather at this time of year and frankly, even if that was only a rumour, it could not be any worse than here. Secondly, I had never been there before and it would be a new country for me and a couple of my Cypriot friends here are also telling me I should go. Thirdly, LCA receives some interesting air traffic from the Middle East as well as Russia and Eastern Europe so that was a plus from an A.netter perspective. Fourthly, I had some BA avios to use and BA use B767-300ERs on the London – Larnaca route and it’s been 5 years since I was last on a BA767.

Finally, I was also inspired after reading Gabrielchew’s last instalment of his travels earlier this year: Africa 7: British Airways LCA-LHR, Business B767 (by gabrielchew Mar 4 2012 in Trip Reports) Thanks for this Gabe!

I wasn’t planning to be as active as him however – most of my time would be spent alternating between the pool and any place that served food and had views of the final approach into LCA. Knowing that there were a few hotels very close to LCA with great views of aircraft on short finals over Larnaca Bay, I booked my ticket and reserved my hotel room – all for a bargain of £150.

Most people know that BA’s 767s are now very long in the tooth, some being almost 23 years old this year. Many regard this as a service failure on the part of the airline – how could they be flying such a battered old aircraft around still? I look at it the other way – it’s not often these days that you get to fly on a 23 year old B767-300 on an intra European flight? Would you agree? The flight to LCA would give me a chance to “go retro” with BA.

This report will cover both the outbound and return flights. Please feel free to leave any comments!

ROUTE AND PRE-DEPARTURE

The simple route, courtesy of Great Circle Mapper. Flight time would be 4 hours 20 mins outbound and 4 hours 45 mins on the return – making it one of the longer intra European flights on offer.



Firstly, thanks to BA for scheduling these flights to LCA at relatively civilised times of the day. The outbound flight was due to leave Heathrow at 820am and arrives into Larnaca at 1450. Perfect! Having said that, there is a big BUT for those who enjoy the T5 experience at LHRBA’s LCA flight leaves from Terminal 3 so inevitably that means having to be bussed through the bowels of T3 to a remote gate in the middle of a construction site. Not an overly pleasant start for many people’s journey – to me, it’s all part of the experience.

Arriving at T3 in the early morning, I proceeded straight through to airside as I already had my boarding pass for seat 29K just behind the wing, and I had no luggage to check in. T3 was relatively quiet and my current status with BA means I can use the fast track at security. Very short queues this morning and I was through in only a few minutes. The departure experience at T3 has much improved over the years, particularly after T5 opened and all of the airlines played “musical chairs” and moved terminals.

First stop, after dodging the perfume samplers in the duty free area was to head to the BA Galleries F lounge for a much needed coffee. I was here in December 2011 before my trip to Australia on Qantas so it was nice to be back. Waved through by the pleasant guy at the entrance after checking my boarding pass, I set up camp in one of the far sides where there was nobody around. This also made it easier to catch a couple of scenes with the camera.

I liked the effect of this window shot, particularly as the background subject was the cute little retrojet of SAS. Going retro seemed to be the theme for today!



Some other interior shots


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Although it was early and I sometimes find champagne has a negative effect on my innards, I decided to celebrate this tripette with a glass anyway.



Before very long, one of the many staff members asked me whether I would like to order anything from the menu and so I opted for the toasted bacon and egg breakfast sandwich. The lounge slowly started to fill up and by the time I had finished my sandwich, had a couple of top ups (orange juice that is) and a coffee or two, I decided to go for a wander and stretch the legs before my flight was due to start boarding. T3, although parts of the interior have been progressively updated in the past few years, is still decidedly retro in its feel and design – long corridors and limited window views for looking at the scenes outside. None of this light and airy, floor to ceiling glass that we see today at T5 or indeed at world class airports in Asia such as Hong Kong or Singapore T3 or Seoul Incheon.

Having said that, there’s always something to see at T3 which reminds me, despite all the grief it gets both inside and outside the UK, that Heathrow remains a global powerhouse in terms of international traffic and the variety of airlines that fly here. AA seemed to have practically moved in here – there are so many AA aircraft on the ground at any one time these days – just like this shiny 777 at the gate.



Shortly before, this Ethiopian Airlines 767-300 arrived and parked near a suitably placed window.

GOOD BYE TO A GREY LONDON

Surprisingly, it wasn’t actually raining when the call to board was made from one of the remote/bus gates. There were a very large number of people milling around, many of whom could not actually get comfortably into the gate area – clearly it was not designed for B767 loads and the BA ground staff did apologise for this. Thankfully they did not keep us waiting long and soon enough the buses for BA662 to Larnaca were outside and ready to take us to our aircraft.

Today, doing the honours would be G-BZHB – here she is getting prepared



Hotel Bravo was delivered new to BA in 1998 and is ironically one of the newest in the BA 767 fleet and is configured with Club Europe and Euro Traveller cabins. Other 767s in the fleet date back to 1989 (as I would get to experience on the return flight). After being dropped at the aircraft stairs, it was a steady climb up to the front L2 door. Sadly no rear steps were available - boarding by a single door only. I wondered whether this was standard procedure for BA on the 767s at T3 to not have dual boarding stairs? Surely it would assist in speedier boarding given the number of passengers who were filing into the aircraft?

While waiting at the base of the stairs, I looked up and saw three very large deposits of dried bird poop on the fuselage. Nice! Sadly I wasn’t quick enough to get a pic of said poop.

Passengers were met at the door by two crew members who welcomed us all onboard and directed me across the galley to the other aisle, where I soon found my seat. Looking around and from first impressions, yes, this was definitely going to be a retro experience.

Some cabin shots as the passengers started drifting in -


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Side on



And the view from 29K – not much to look at for sure! The window was very scratched and dirty on the outside - very tricky to try and get proper pictures. Thumbs down to BA for this.



Once boarding had been completed and the door closed, we were ready to go. All of Y looked full – with a mixture of families with young children, older couples and a few single travellers. My seat neighbour was a friendly Cypriot middle aged man with whom I exchanged a few pleasantaries before take off. He was the perfect neighbour, although he did snore for a short time when we were enroute! The Captain came on the PA with a nice welcome, and confirmed our flight time down to Larnaca, and added that the weather in Larnaca was expected to be a lot nicer than London. I thought, “That wouldn’t be difficult!” Safety demonstration was done via the ancient overhead screens – which when switched on, screamed out in large capital letters “B767 ENGLISH” before starting with the safety messages. Those TVs look like something out of the dark ages. Thankfully the screen quality was OK and the usual BA safety messages were given.

CREW

The crew in the aft section of the aircraft were a mix. Some were quite friendly, others were a little more reserved and one hardly said anything at all to passengers when I watched him interacting with passengers. “Interracting” is probably too generous a word to use. One of the flight attendants looked just like Barbara Windsor, and seemed like she had spent hours getting all that hair arranged in such a complex way. I quietly wondered how comfortable that would be, and whether the “hair do” would hold up for all 4 hours 20 mins of the flight?!

Passing an old friend when taxiing out - trip report coming!



We departed from 09R today, giving me a nice view of T4 as we lifted off the ground. Take off was powerful.



Goodbye Terminal 4 - a nice mix of carriers down there


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Sadly, the cockpit crew did not provide us with a high level overview of our routing today and given that the old TV screens were not even playing an ancient version of the moving map, we passengers had no idea what route we’d be taking. I had to rely on some creative map reading, geography skill and a whole lot of guestimation. I’ve always found BA to be relatively good at giving these kinds of details but today was not one of those flights. I guess I could have asked the crew but I did not think I needed to. Most passengers probably don’t care, but it’s one of the highlights for me when flying, to see the lights of a city down below, or the snow capped mountain ranges or deserts below and know where we are.

Within the first hour after departure, with most passengers getting settled in, breakfast was served. I’d like to say it was served with a smile but this wasn’t really the case. Still, it was nice to receive something like this on an intra Europe flight in Y – these days it’s increasingly rare.



Breakfast consisted of orange juice, a roll, yoghurt and a few tiny pieces of fruit, and also for the main course, sausage, egg, bacon and mushrooms. It was quite tasty. Tea and coffee and other drink options also followed close behind.

Around the time breakfast was served, the cabin started to ding ding repeatedly. What? Well in different parts of the cabin the flight attendant call buttons started to randomly go off in close succession. Weird. Never seen that before. This was soon followed by a PA announcement from the CSD that unfortunately, due to a technical problem, they were unable to stop the dinging, and so were left with no other option than to disable all of the call buttons, which thankfully made the dinging stop.

Prior to this, the flight attendants had tried to activate the feature film, which I had no intention of watching, given the tiny screens hanging off the ceiling, and that fact that the view was much better outside. Unfortunately, they could not get the film to work either. Technical malfunction part deux! The CSD made an announcement and said that she felt like she was spending the whole time apologising for the technical failures. This was definitely a retro experience!

Looking outside, it was mostly cloudy for the first 2 hours or so of the flight so I spent much of the time listening to music and reading my book about Oregon’s worst serial killer – Dayton Leroy Rogers. What is it with the Pacific Northwest and serial killers? First there was Ted Bundy in the 1970s in Washington, then the Green River killer and at the same time, Rogers in the mid 1980s.



There were a couple of times when the clouds broke up but these were few and far between and it wasn’t until we were possibly in Greek airspace (or thereabouts) before the clouds completely disappeared.


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For those of us on the starboard side of the aircraft, we were soon treated to some very clear views of Athens. It would have been nice if the cockpit crew had flagged this to passengers as we could see the entire city, including old and current Athens airports. It was a great view.

Dedicated to OA260!



The old Athens Hellinikon Airport in the distance – I know many of you have been there and had a look around. Around this time, the crew started their onboard sales, and while few passengers in my section bought anything, they did seem to be making a few scattered sales here and there.



Current ATH airport



Our path then took us further south and east directly over the top of Mykonos. I recognised the airport and the shape of Ornos Bay as well as Mykonos Town.



Further south and Naxos then came into view. Again, having been there in 2009, it was immediately familiar as it’s the largest of the Cyclades group of islands. I really loved it there.



Land then became less prominent, although I think we skirted over the southern portion of Rhodes. Around this time, a second drinks service was offered. A diet coke for me this time.



The next time land was sighted, it was the western most tip of Cyprus.



Top of descent was around 1230GMT (230pm Larnaca time)



Northern Cyprus is very mountainous and we had some great views while on descent. With 20 mins to go, the First Officer made an announcement with some updated weather information for Larnaca, which was expected to be sunny and a warm 25C. Visibility was also very good 10km. Perfect!



As we crossed further into Cyprus, and started tracking in a more southerly direction across the island, a few puffy clouds appeared outside my window. Who says the best cloud formations can only be found in Asia!

LARNACA ARRIVAL

The closer to Larnaca we got, the less mountainous it was outside and hills and windy roads and tracks gave way to flat land and the odd town.

Approaching Larnaca - cabin was now secured for our arrival.



Our approach into the airport was one which I came to enjoy as a spotter in the coming couple of days. In effect, we would track directly almost over the top of LCA before heading out to sea again.



Without any warning, we then commenced a very sharp left turn, almost doubling back on ourselves, to align with the runway. We would be approaching from the north east.



Our sharp turn completed, we tracked parallel with land, over Larnaca Bay, with the city on our right hand side. Flaps in landing position now.


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The approach was very smooth - no bumps as we got lower to the ground. At this point, we passed the area where I believed my hotel was located - and sure enough, I soon discovered that’s exactly where it was. Superb location for watching arrivals, especially in the afternoon when the sun was behind you.



The airport perimeter fence comes into view, and a number of beachside cafes and restaurants nearby.



Touchdown - and passing what I understood to be the old terminal at LCA. The new one has only been opened since 2008.



LCA’s terminal



Let’s see who was there to greet our arrival. Here’s an Aerosvit 737 having arrived from Ukraine before us.



Another Ukrainian visitor - Dniproavia 737 at a nearby gate. You could not miss the registration.



Finally, we pulled onto stand and our gate next to this Austrian beauty, getting ready to return to Vienna.



After just over 4 hrs 30 mins, we had arrived. Disembarkation was relatively quick, and the crew did their goodbyes. The First Officer was also at the door to say goodbye which was a nice touch. The walk to immigration was not long and passport control was also very quick. With a stamp in my passport, I was through and into baggage reclaim. Not having any checked in luggage, I made my way out to find some form of transportation to the hotel.

GROUND TRANSPORTATION - LARNACA

There is an organised taxi rank at Arrivals, but from my perspective, it felt anything but organised. Basically a guy at the front of the taxi queue asked where passengers were going, and then depending on the the destination, were directing them to random taxis in the queue - the concept of a taxi “rank” and what that entails in other countries and what I am used to, did not seem to operate here. I got the feeling that those taxis at the front of the queue were getting the longer and more lucrative fares, while those at the back of the queue were getting the short fares. Although all the taxis had meters, many did not seem to want to use them. One driver tried to tell me it would be €20 to drive me the 7 minutes from the airport to my hotel! Yeah right. I later found out that this was nearly double what it would have been if the meter was running. The only tip I have therefore is if you’re intending to use a taxi from the airport - don’t let the seemingly organised view of the taxi rank deceive you!

END OF PART ONE


Eastern - Number One To The Sun
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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1224 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 19714 times:

PART TWO

HOTEL

I stayed in the 3 star - Flamingo Beach Hotel, as it’s rated on the plane spotting hotels website and so I thought I would give it a try. The location looked perfect, even if the hotel looked a little basic. Check in was a breeze, the reception staff very friendly and my room (104) was on the first floor. It was actually on the second floor as there was a mezzanine floor below me. Room was basic but clean, and bathroom was fine. There was a small balcony facing out at an angle toward the sea, but the view was restricted by the way in which the hotel was designed - plus there was a new block of apartments being built next door.

After a quick freshening up, and changing into much more summery clothing - yay, I headed out with camera in hand to do a bit of exploring. I always love visiting new places and having a wander around.

I found a nice bench next to the beach which was perfect for catching a few of the late afternoon arrivals.

For all those SWISS fans out there



The home carrier, a Cyprus Airways A320 arriving back at home base



The afternoon passed pleasantly, beer in hand at one point and camera in the other. Thankfully I felt co-ordinated enough to be able to put the beer down whenever something was on final approach!

As the sun disappeared, a gorgeous purple glow featured on the horizon



And it was time to watch the Emirates A330 arrive in great evening light. EK offer an interesting routing through Larnaca from Dubai, with the flight then going onto Malta before coming back to Larnaca again and then back to Dubai.


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After dinner and the end of a long day - it was time to head back to the hotel for some much needed zzzz.



My routine over the next couple of days was fairly simple and can be summed up with the following pictures:

Poolside on the roof of the hotel



Watching people watching planes



Views of Larnaca from the pool


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Walks along the beachfront



Looking out for some aliens!



The occasional stop for beer



Watching the daily BA flight arrive - it’s BZHB again!



My late afternoon spotting position from the hotel


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SPOTTING IN LARNACA

While traffic at LCA is not overly busy during the day, it is fairly constant, there is a very nice variety of visitors to keep spotters happy. Aside from Cyprus Airways, Aegean Airlines seemed to be the next most common airline. I never realised how many flights a day there were between Athens and Larnaca - it was almost like a shuttle service, with all of Cyprus, Olympic and Aegean offering flights between the two cities.


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Larnaca is also incredibly popular with Russians and Ukrainian holiday makers, so the number of flights from those two parts of the world were noticeable. The highlight for me was seeing this Aeroflot IL96 on short finals. This was the second IL96 of the day!



Aerosvit also sent in a brand new 737-800 twice while I was there but I missed getting a picture both times. Very bad timing on my part. It’s always the way. It was great to watch the arrivals coming in over LCA and then heading out to sea before coming back in again, just as we did the previous day. This Star Alliance Egyptair A330-200 shows how it’s done.


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Late afternoon on Sunday also saw the arrival of this gorgeous Royal Jordanian EM195.



And this VIP A340-300, which is reputed to be the last ever A340-300 built and is currently owned by Roman Abramovich. The aircraft departed the next day.


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BIDDING FAREWELL TO THE SUN

My short time in Cyprus came to an end much quicker than I would have liked. The hotel provided a shuttle service back to the airport (which took all of 7 minutes). I soon found myself in the cool surroundings of the departures level of LCA. The airport is operated by Hermes Airports Ltd who assumed management and control of both Larnaca International Airport and Pafos International Airport on 12 May 2006, under a 25 year BOT (Build-Operate-Transfer) concession agreement with the Republic of Cyprus.



One section was very quiet this lunch time



Very shiny floors



Free wifi inside the terminal too



While still landside, this was the view of one side. The EK A330 is getting ready to depart for Malta, and the gate is the same one used by the BA 767 flight.



Today seemed to be Scandinavian day - a number of flights from Norway and Sweden were due.



FIDS



Security and immigration was fast and it wasn’t long before I was airside - although parts of the airside area were also very quiet, but at the same time, spacious.



Airside contains a number of different concessions - a mix of retail and eating places. I really liked the terminal. It was a positive experience.



I headed up to the Swissport operated lounge as BA don’t have their own lounge here. Gabriel has already covered this lounge in detail. It wasn’t that busy when I was there. Most of the loungers were Russians, many with children! I managed to find a “child free” section and spent most of my time in that spot. It was nice to see they had an outside area where you could sit with a drink and enjoy the last of the sunshine if you wanted. I chose to stay indoors and had a light sweet snack.


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While relaxing in the lounge, the BA 767-300 could be clearly seen in the distance on final approach. I wasn’t able to get a picture of the aircraft landing because the heat haze was too much. I did later get to the gate early in order to get a snap of our aircraft being prepared for the homeward journey.

HOMEWARD BOUND

Today, BA663 would be operated by G-BNWB, one of the oldest in the 767 fleet. By the time the gate agents started doing their thing, quite a few passengers had gathered at the gate. One middle aged lady looked like she had never heard for sunscreen before and she turned up at the gate looking like mutton dressed as lamb in a pair of Kylie style hot pants and very red legs and arms. Ouch! It looked like another busy flight - in fact, once we boarded, I did not see a spare seat. I hear loads are good on the LCA flights, but yields are generally poor. What makes money on these flights to LCA is cargo. Not sure what is being carried between London and Larnaca that’s so valuable but good for BA!

When the gate personnel arrived, they began closing the blinds behind them, where the hot afternoon sun was pouring in. Shortly afterwards, I overhead a comment which could only be made by someone who grew up in the UK, where the intense hot westerly sun is a rarity: “Why are they closing all the blinds?”

Here’s the view once onboard. Deja vu - although this time, it was an A320 at the gate next to us, not the A321 which was there on Saturday. My seatmate was a friendly young Cypriot guy who looked like he was a student. He spent much of the flight typing away at what looked like an academic paper.



Someone else getting ready to go, just as we are about to push back - some 15 minutes late.



A fellow CY Airbus over on a remote stand as we taxi out.



On our way out to the runway



Waiting for a couple of arrivals before it was our turn - finally, wheels up at 1710 Larnaca time (some 30 minutes late). We had to wait for the Orbest A320 to land, which was on its way to the gate in this picture.



Climbing out of LCA



Heading slightly inland while still climbing - a lovely evening for flying



Banking right



Some more great views as we start our north westerly heading toward LHR.



Saying good bye to Cyprus - the most north western tip of the island comes into view - a short but sweet visit. I would definitely like to come back sometime.


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A view of the retro cabin - which actually did not look any different from that of BZHB, even though BNWB was a much older airframe.



Does anyone know where this is? We were about 1.5 hours out of LCA when we passed over.


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ONBOARD SERVICE

Onboard service commenced with a drinks run, followed by dinner. Dinner consisted of a decent sized slice of moussaka, a very small Greek salad with dressing, a bread roll, and an almond tasting slice of cake. By Y standards for an intra Europe flight, it was excellent. Tea and coffee followed.



The crew on this sector were similar to the outbound - a mix. There were a couple of very chatty flight attendants who were very friendly, and there were others who were less enthusiastic, plus one male flight attendant who seemed barely able to open his mouth even when he was offering drinks to passengers.

Like the outbound flight, I spent much of my time reading and looking at the views outside. Just over half way into the flight, which was due to take in total, an estimated 4 hours 40 minutes, we passed near some amazing cloud formations.


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Essential legroom shot - I found it to be decent, and more than adequate for the duration of the flight.



Less than 1.5 hours to go at this point and some more great views from Mother Nature



Well, at this point, you can probably guess where we were now



That’s right - back in the UK, where the skies were as grey as they were when I left two days previously!

Our descent into London would mean a couple of circuits east of the city - which revealed some interesting colours



Some familiar sights as we get closer - Canary Wharf and Greenwich, and of course, the Thames



Passing central London on the way on our right hand side.



Before landing on 27L and heading to our remote gate at T3. Like Gabe says, it’s quite a contrast for passengers: leaving Larnaca from a gate with two jetbridges and a few hours later arriving at Heathrow and being parked in an alleyway in the bowels of Terminal 3, being bussed to the terminal.


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FINAL IMPRESSIONS

It was a weekend of fantastic weather in Larnaca - mission accomplished. Despite BA 767s being long in the tooth, I really enjoyed both flights. I much prefer flying during the daytime, so I can look out of the window and see what’s down below. It was a shame that we did not get any information about where we were flying and that the IFE was practically non existent. However, I dread the day when all the B767s have gone, and “only” B787s are around - with overzealous cabin crew dimming the windows during the day leaving opportunities for window photos few and far between.

Even after all these years (my first flight on a B767-300 was back in January 1991) I still love the B767-300 - it’s a great design and it looks good in BA colours. It’s also rare these days to get to fly intra Europe on a wide body aircraft. BA cabin service was a bit hit and miss on both flights but the catering was surprisingly good. The moussaka was something I did not expect to enjoy, let alone finish.

I only got a very high level feel for Larnaca and Cyprus but having had a small taste, it’s somewhere I would very much like to return to for a longer period of time.

Thanks very much for reading!



Eastern - Number One To The Sun
User currently offlineplanejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 19535 times:

Lovely trip report there Palmjet, wish I was in LCA given all this rain we're getting (though today wasn't bad!)

I agree with you there, whilst to the average passenger BA's 767s and T3 operation is awful, to the enthusiast, it's all part of the experience, plus I enjoy walking down the steps from the aircraft, makes you appreciate not only the size of it but the sheer amount of engineering gone in to creating the plane. Having said that, I've not flown on a BA 763... a US 762 yes (and that was an experience in itself!).

Look forward to the QF A380 report though!


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 19368 times:

Hey J!

Great TR. I had a great time reading it. I always enjoy reports about Cyprus. I haven't been there myself but I've always been very curious about the place.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I booked my ticket and reserved my hotel room – all for a bargain of £150.

Why, oh why, did I not take advantage of such deals when I lived in the UK??

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
very tricky to try and get proper pictures. Thumbs down to BA for this.

You did a great job with the photos. I couldn't tell that the windows were in such a bad state.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Most passengers probably don’t care, but it’s one of the highlights for me when flying, to see the lights of a city down below, or the snow capped mountain ranges or deserts below and know where we are.

I'm exactly the same! I drives me nuts not to know where we are and I'm constantly looking for landmarks outside the window. If I don't see anything recognizable I usually (after we land) go to flightaware.com and try to figure out the route.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Oregon’s worst serial killer – Dayton Leroy Rogers. What is it with the Pacific Northwest and serial killers? First there was Ted Bundy in the 1970s in Washington, then the Green River killer and at the same time, Rogers in the mid 1980s.

I found myself thinking the same thing the other day. I have been reading a ton of books about serial killers. Ever since I took classes in Forensic psychology I have been fascinated by the topic. I recently read about a couple of Ozzie serial killers that freaked me out big time. Kathrine Knight for example...

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
There were a couple of times when the clouds broke up but these were few and far between and it wasn’t until we were possibly in Greek airspace (or thereabouts) before the clouds completely disappeared.

That looks like the Bulgarian-Greek border to me.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Further south and Naxos then came into view. Again, having been there in 2009, it was immediately familiar as it’s the largest of the Cyclades group of islands. I really loved it there.

Agreed. I was there briefly in 2010 and the place was really interesting!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The occasional stop for beer

Thumbs up. I believe that photos of local beer brands should become compulsory for every TR.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Does anyone know where this is? We were about 1.5 hours out of LCA when we passed over.

It seems like it's Fethiye, Turkey.


I'm glad that you had such a nice time in Cyprus. Looking forward to your future TR as I know there are some very exciting trips coming up for you.

Thanks for sharing!

WBodyroga



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1715 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 19257 times:

Hi Palmjet, once again a fantastic report! Really looked like you had a fabulous weekend down in Cyprus. The spotting opportunities would let alone justify spending a week there! Also your pictures are quite stunning I must say, which camera & lens combos do you use?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
While rain does not ordinarily bother me (how can it when I chose to voluntarily move to the UK?),

Well I must say that it's easy to forget the fact that you're aussie, at least with hardly any trace of accent  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I booked my ticket and reserved my hotel room – all for a bargain of £150.

Were those 150 GBP the total cost i.e hotel and air taxes? Also how come you didn't spend your Avios on a ticket in Club instead, considering Y awards seldom provide good value for the miles?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Flight time would be 4 hours 20 mins outbound and 4 hours 45 mins on the return – making it one of the longer intra European flights on offer.

That is indeed one long flight! Catching up on the flight times of JFK-LHR which can sometimes be as short as 5 and a half or even less.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
particularly as the background subject was the cute little retrojet of SAS. Going retro seemed to be the theme for today!

One has to admit that SAS are indeed the ruler of Terminal 3. Any plans for BA to move completely to T5?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Passing an old friend when taxiing out - trip report coming!

I am very much looking forward to that report!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
till, it was nice to receive something like this on an intra Europe flight in Y – these days it’s increasingly rare.

Well given the lengthy flight time, service like that is pretty much what to expect at least on proper carriers like BA. On SAS however they would've forced you to pay for food... Like they will on their new CPH-TLV route. 5 hrs in a cramped A319 with no food is a crime against mankind!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
and so were left with no other option than to disable all of the call buttons, which thankfully made the dinging stop.

Well luckily the ding didn't go on for the entire flight like they did on that flight from MAD. On the other hand some extra Avios as compensation wouldn't have been bad.  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Dinner consisted of a decent sized slice of moussaka, a very small Greek salad with dressing, a bread roll, and an almond tasting slice of cake.

Again food looks quite fantastic! Catering is very much relevant to the origin of the flight, looks like a very greek meal indeed. Wouldn't surprise me if that almond cake was Baklawa.

"Wheels Up!"
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User currently offlineflykev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 19218 times:
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Fantastic trip report, love the photos from Larnaca - looks like a really great place to spot from.
The BA 767s are definitely an experience, the one I was on in October randomly dropped the oxygen masks in certain rows on take off and the cabin lights would not dim. I will miss them when they are gone.

Thanks for sharing!

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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3372 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 19164 times:

Hey Palmjet

Nice report - good to see the same flight I did in economy - seems ok. Shame the planes are in such a rough state. You got some great photos around LCA.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I booked my ticket and reserved my hotel room – all for a bargain of £150.

Wow, great bargain. Looks like BA is chearing quite a lot for their summer flights, way more than £150

Finally, I was also inspired after reading Gabrielchew’s last instalment of his travels earlier this year: Africa 7: British Airways LCA-LHR, Business B767 (by gabrielchew Mar 4 2012 in Trip Reports) Thanks for this Gabe![/quote]I always like to inspire!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I wondered whether this was standard procedure for BA on the 767s at T3 to not have dual boarding stairs? Surely it would assist in speedier boarding given the number of passengers who were filing into the aircraft?

They only used one for my flight too - guess it's a little cheaper and easier

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):

Today, BA663 would be operated by G-BNWB, one of the oldest in the 767 fleet.

Ah, the same plane that flew me back from LCA



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27341 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 19079 times:

Hey great report and lovely photos all the way through . The B767 is a great catch as you know Ive been lucky enough to bag two since December on the ATH route.

Thanks for the dedication .   Never knew LCA was so good for spotting but then again Ive mostly flown to PFO and ECN. I only ever once flew out of LCA on a LO flight to WAW.

How cool is the SU metal that you saw ! Love to get on that sometime.

The meals were great and especially the Greek one on the return . Looks very tasty indeed.

Im glad you like Cyprus its a great Island with great people.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineKLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 18807 times:

Hey, nice TR! They sure treat you nice on those long inter-Europe flights in Y! Thanks for all the neat pictures.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
the cabin started to ding ding repeatedly

Must be a 767 thing. Happened on my DEN-SFO flight in UA in 12/11.



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6944 posts, RR: 77
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 18492 times:

Hi Palmjet,

excellent report with great pictures! The area where you stayed looks amazing, I need to go there one day. Also nice to see you had both one the oldest and one of the newest BA 763s.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Most people know that BA’s 767s are now very long in the tooth, some being almost 23 years old this year. Many regard this as a service failure on the part of the airline – how could they be flying such a battered old aircraft around still?

Lufthansa's oldest active plane was built in 1986...it's fine as long as these planes are kept in good condition.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Passing an old friend when taxiing out - trip report coming!

You flew on OQK? It was operating the other QF flight to SIN when I took OQG two weeks ago. I had been hoping I would get the newer one when I checked the LHR-bound registrations on the day before.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):

Breakfast consisted of orange juice, a roll, yoghurt and a few tiny pieces of fruit, and also for the main course, sausage, egg, bacon and mushrooms. It was quite tasty. Tea and coffee and other drink options also followed close behind.

Generous breakfast!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
I found a nice bench next to the beach which was perfect for catching a few of the late afternoon arrivals.
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Watching people watching planes

Wow, great locations! I would love it.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Dinner consisted of a decent sized slice of moussaka, a very small Greek salad with dressing, a bread roll, and an almond tasting slice of cake. By Y standards for an intra Europe flight, it was excellent. Tea and coffee followed.

Another nice meal!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):

Even after all these years (my first flight on a B767-300 was back in January 1991) I still love the B767-300 - it’s a great design and it looks good in BA colours.

Actually I'm not a big fan of the 767 - the design is very boring IMO. But I'd still prefer it over most narrowbodies any day.


PH



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1408 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 18111 times:

Oh dear, now I've got somewhere else to go and see! Great report, and also good to get a decent flight length on a wide body whilst still remaining in Europe!


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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8596 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 18081 times:
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Hi PJ,

Great read and pictures, thanks for sharing.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Most people know that BA’s 767s are now very long in the tooth, some being almost 23 years old this year. Many regard this as a service failure on the part of the airline – how could they be flying such a battered old aircraft around still? I look at it the other way – it’s not often these days that you get to fly on a 23 year old B767-300 on an intra European flight? Would you agree? The flight to LCA would give me a chance to “go retro” with BA.

- Had Boeing been on time with the 787 this flight may well have been operated by one, still, as you say nice to get a widebody on aEuropean flight, not too may sectors out there these days.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Hotel Bravo was delivered new to BA in 1998

- Only flown her twice, some of her sisterships are up to five flights now.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I soon found my seat. Looking around and from first impressions, yes, this was definitely going to be a retro experience.

- I was on BNWA a few weeks back, very very tired looking inside, many of the overhead monitors were O/C.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Breakfast consisted of orange juice, a roll, yoghurt and a few tiny pieces of fruit, and also for the main course, sausage, egg, bacon and mushrooms. It was quite tasty. Tea and coffee and other drink options also followed close behind.

- Decent brekky!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Around the time breakfast was served, the cabin started to ding ding repeatedly. What? Well in different parts of the cabin the flight attendant call buttons started to randomly go off in close succession. Weird. Never seen that before. This was soon followed by a PA announcement from the CSD that unfortunately, due to a technical problem, they were unable to stop the dinging, and so were left with no other option than to disable all of the call buttons, which thankfully made the dinging stop.

Prior to this, the flight attendants had tried to activate the feature film, which I had no intention of watching, given the tiny screens hanging off the ceiling, and that fact that the view was much better outside. Unfortunately, they could not get the film to work either. Technical malfunction part deux! The CSD made an announcement and said that she felt like she was spending the whole time apologising for the technical failures. This was definitely a retro experience!

- Sounds she needs a visit to the hanger to sort these issues out.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Dniproavia 737 at a nearby gate. You could not miss the registration

- Now that's how all registrations should be, size wise!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
I stayed in the 3 star - Flamingo Beach Hotel, as it’s rated on the plane spotting hotels website and so I thought I would give it a try.

- Not sure the wife would like it but Trip Adviser rates it as 14/42, I've made a note, will see if I can get a jolly there onver a long weekend.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Today, BA663 would be operated by G-BNWB

- Flown her too  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Onboard service commenced with a drinks run, followed by dinner. Dinner consisted of a decent sized slice of moussaka, a very small Greek salad with dressing, a bread roll, and an almond tasting slice of cake. By Y standards for an intra Europe flight, it was excellent. Tea and coffee followed.

- That's a decent size slap of Moussaka, nice!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
BA cabin service was a bit hit and miss on both flights

- That's the only real down side, hit and miss crew.

Cheers

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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1789 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 17716 times:

Hello there pj,

Very nice and picturesque covering of your spotting jolly to Cyprus. Sometimes one doesn’t need much to have a great small break from daily life: a camera, a pool, some planes (including one to fly on) and last but not least some sun and beer. Great idea to go to Cyprus for all that. And it looks like you did travel in style on BA’s grandmother planes. Talking about ‘retro’, that was definitely spot on.
And btw: excellent photography once again!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
I look at it the other way %u2013 it%u2019s not often these days that you get to fly on a 23 year old B767-300 on an intra European flight? Would you agree?

Totally!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Going retro seemed to be the theme for today!

Love the theme in this one and it suits perfectly.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
T3, although parts of the interior have been progressively updated in the past few years, is still decidedly retro in its feel and design

From what I’ve seen of T3 already - and that’s not much - I just thought it was a plain ugly place...

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that Heathrow remains a global powerhouse in terms of international traffic and the variety of airlines that fly here.

True and arguably one of the best airports if you want to spot continuous and very varied traffic all day long. If ony for the weather...

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Surely it would assist in speedier boarding given the number of passengers who were filing into the aircraft?

I assume it was a full house? Still while waiting at the stairs you could easily have managed a photo session of this old lady.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Still, it was nice to receive something like this on an intra Europe flight in Y – these days it’s increasingly rare.

Agreed, and the meals look well presented and plentiful.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
the cabin started to ding ding repeatedly.

What was your thought at first: one of the pax playing Tetris with the overhead panel?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
A diet coke for me this time.

Nice to see the tin cans on offer, although I rather drink the ‘regular’ Coke version  

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Here’s an Aerosvit 737

Speaking of a striking livery, that certainly is one.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
ooking out for some aliens!

  

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
This Star Alliance Egyptair A330-200 shows how it’s done.

Excellent capturing. Can you guess how distant you were of the actual approach zone, 100’s of meters, kilometers,...?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Does anyone know where this is?

That’s Fethiye at the Southwest coast of Turkey.

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User currently offlinelukeyboy95 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 1139 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 17386 times:

HI Palmjet.

That was a thoroughly enjoyable report. Many thanks...

It is one of the nicest BA/ most affordable routes to do I think given the flight time and equipment. I have never been on a BA flight longer than 2 hours which is a shame.

Meals looked excellent really. Funny that the breakfast looks the same as the Uk domestic services. But the return looked generous and delicious.

Classic hotel spot for spotting... the final photo of the A340 coming down is an excellent shot. I had never realised we had a St Maarten competitor in Europe.

Shame some of the BA FA's were indifferent.. at least some were good.

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User currently offlinetheobcman From UK - England, joined Nov 2010, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 17326 times:

I was looking at the exact same trip using some Avios & you have just convinced me to go for a weekend. BA 763 & the Flamingo Hotel it is. Brilliant report - cheers.

User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1224 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 17313 times:

Hi planejamie

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I agree with you there, whilst to the average passenger BA's 767s and T3 operation is awful, to the enthusiast, it's all part of the experience, plus I enjoy walking down the steps from the aircraft, makes you appreciate not only the size of it but the sheer amount of engineering gone in to creating the plane. Having said that, I've not flown on a BA 763... a US 762 yes (and that was an experience in itself!).

Thanks very much for the comments – glad you enjoyed the trip down to LCA and back. Thankfully some nice weather looks like it’s on the way for us at last! Yes, I also enjoy boarding from a remote gate. In fact, for many years when I was a child, my local airport in Australia did not have jetbridges, and everyone had to board via steps. It was a great experience boarding a B747 that way for sure! I don't think BA's 767s are going anywhere in a hurry - I am sure you have time to sample one somewhere.

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Look forward to the QF A380 report though!

Coming soon!

Hey WBR

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Great TR. I had a great time reading it. I always enjoy reports about Cyprus. I haven't been there myself but I've always been very curious about the place.

Thanks! Well, there’s a suggestion for you when you’re next back in the neighbourhood. You could suggest some aircraft spotting by the beach. I am not sure your wife would be so keen though?

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Why, oh why, did I not take advantage of such deals when I lived in the UK??

I should have made it clear(er) that I used some avios to book the flight. However, the online price was just over £200 which was not bad for a bank holiday weekend, booked only 4 weeks in advance. The hotel was £50 per night.

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You did a great job with the photos. I couldn't tell that the windows were in such a bad state.

It’s one of my pet peeves – dirty aircraft windows. I would offer to clean all of the windows of every plane I fly on, if only the airlines would let me out there.... I had to find a few small patches on the window where it was not scratched or dirty. Still, at least there was no bird poop on my actual window. That would have been nasty!

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I'm exactly the same! I drives me nuts not to know where we are and I'm constantly looking for landmarks outside the window. If I don't see anything recognizable I usually (after we land) go to flightaware.com and try to figure out the route.

Pleased that I am not alone there!

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I found myself thinking the same thing the other day. I have been reading a ton of books about serial killers. Ever since I took classes in Forensic psychology I have been fascinated by the topic. I recently read about a couple of Ozzie serial killers that freaked me out big time. Kathrine Knight for example.

Thanks for the tip- I might look into that in more detail, having now finished my book on the guy in Oregon.

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That looks like the Bulgarian-Greek border to me.

Thanks v much for that – it sounds right, in terms of the timing.

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Thumbs up. I believe that photos of local beer brands should become compulsory for every TR.

Agreed! I really enjoyed the Cypriot beer too.

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It seems like it's Fethiye, Turkey

Thanks again – I thought it would be somewhere in Turkey.

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I'm glad that you had such a nice time in Cyprus. Looking forward to your future TR as I know there are some very exciting trips coming up for you.

Hopefully! Stay tuned – thanks for that.

Hi Jonas

You’ve been very busy this past weekend!

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Hi Palmjet, once again a fantastic report! Really looked like you had a fabulous weekend down in Cyprus. The spotting opportunities would let alone justify spending a week there! Also your pictures are quite stunning I must say, which camera & lens combos do you use?

Thanks very much for all your comments. It was a great weekend. Spotting was definitely the highlight. I was using a combination of cameras – my Canon 550D 24-105mm and 70-300mm mostly, along with a new Sony point and shoot (to replace the one I sadly lost on my last trip).

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Well I must say that it's easy to forget the fact that you're aussie, at least with hardly any trace of accent

Well, half Aussie actually! I actually entered and left Larnaca on my Australian passport –just for the stamp.


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Were those 150 GBP the total cost i.e hotel and air taxes? Also how come you didn't spend your Avios on a ticket in Club instead, considering Y awards seldom provide good value for the miles?

I used Avios for the flight – but the redemption in Y was actually not too bad. I can’t recall – something like 9000 points plus £47 in taxes. The hotel room was £50 per night.

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That is indeed one long flight! Catching up on the flight times of JFK-LHR which can sometimes be as short as 5 and a half or even less.

Agreed – it was certainly one of the longest European flights I have done in a while although some of the UK – Canary Islands flights are of a similar duration.

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One has to admit that SAS are indeed the ruler of Terminal 3. Any plans for BA to move completely to T5?

They are always there, everywhere, all day long! I don’t think BA will move all of their flights to T5. Quite how they decide which ones stay at T3 is not something I’ve ever known.

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I am very much looking forward to that report!

It’s coming – still a bit to do however. I am probably going to do report of two sectors on the QF380: the outbound LHRSIN and then the (BNE)-SYD-SIN sector.

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Well luckily the ding didn't go on for the entire flight like they did on that flight from MAD. On the other hand some extra Avios as compensation wouldn't have been bad.

Tell me about it. The dinging did not bother me too much as the crew soon solved the problem by turning off all the call bells – I never use them personally.

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Again food looks quite fantastic! Catering is very much relevant to the origin of the flight, looks like a very greek meal indeed. Wouldn't surprise me if that almond cake was Baklawa.

The food was indeed quite unexpectedly good on both sectors. The dessert was not baklava however – a yummy treat which I have had many times (mostly in Australia)!

Thanks again for your comments – and on the other “old” trip reports too!

Hi Kev

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Fantastic trip report, love the photos from Larnaca - looks like a really great place to spot from.The BA 767s are definitely an experience, the one I was on in October randomly dropped the oxygen masks in certain rows on take off and the cabin lights would not dim. I will miss them when they are gone.

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks very much for your comments – glad you enjoyed the report. Now that’s an interesting experience – having all the oxygen masks drop from certain rows. I bet it caused some concern in the cabin? I will also miss them when they are gone (and all replaced with the 787).

Hi Gabe

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Nice report - good to see the same flight I did in economy - seems ok. Shame the planes are in such a rough state. You got some great photos around LCA.

Thanks for your comments – yes, I recall now that you were on the same aircraft as me. I bet that poor old thing does so many LHR-LCA rotations these days...

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I always like to inspire!

Again, many thanks. The timing of your trip report was perfect for my planning purposes!

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They only used one for my flight too - guess it's a little cheaper and easier

Agreed – thanks again !



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 16750 times:

Hi PJ


Great trip report, thanks for sharing. I bet the nice mediteranean sun dit feel good .
Nice job on logging the BA 763 as well, they are indeed not known for their splendid and new cabin.
However I found them too look ok compared to other flights.

LCA pics are great as well

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1224 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 16720 times:

Hi Luke – thanks for that. Glad you enjoyed. I am still working my way through your latest instalment – comments are coming!

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It is one of the nicest BA/ most affordable routes to do I think given the flight time and equipment. I have never been on a BA flight longer than 2 hours which is a shame.

Agreed – for the amount of time in the air and the airfare, it was a good deal from an enthusiast’s perspective. The longest BA flight I have done was HKGLHR back in December 1996 – which was incidentally, my first flight with BA.

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Meals looked excellent really. Funny that the breakfast looks the same as the Uk domestic services. But the return looked generous and delicious.

Yes! I think the hot breakfast is pretty standard no matter what the route. The return catering was definitely excellent – one of the best Y meals I can remember.

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Classic hotel spot for spotting... the final photo of the A340 coming down is an excellent shot. I had never realised we had a St Maarten competitor in Europe.

The hotel was in a great location – nobody bothered me the whole time, even when I had the 70-300mm lens out. People were very chilled and the location next to the beach is very St Maarten-esque!

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Shame some of the BA FA's were indifferent.. at least some were good.

Yes, quite a mixed bag – but the majority of my flights with BA have had very good crews.

Hi there theobcman

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I was looking at the exact same trip using some Avios & you have just convinced me to go for a weekend. BA 763 & the Flamingo Hotel it is. Brilliant report - cheers.

Glad you enjoyed! It’s not a bad deal if you can use some Avios. If you go to the Hotel, ask for a room ending in -01 or -10 as they are the closest at the front of the hotel overlooking the beach (and arrivals!) Thankfully, that is the prevailing direction for air traffic into LCA – although they were using a reverse pattern for a few hours when I was there.

Hi Nils

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Very nice and picturesque covering of your spotting jolly to Cyprus. Sometimes one doesn’t need much to have a great small break from daily life: a camera, a pool, some planes (including one to fly on) and last but not least some sun and beer. Great idea to go to Cyprus for all that. And it looks like you did travel in style on BA’s grandmother planes. Talking about ‘retro’, that was definitely spot on. And btw: excellent photography once again!

Glad you enjoyed the report and pics. It was a fun trip and one that was definitely good, given the horrible weather we’ve had of late here. The retro experience is one that I will probably miss dearly once all the BA 767s are gone.

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From what I’ve seen of T3 already - and that’s not much - I just thought it was a plain ugly place...

Agreed – it’s such an ugly space. Bits here and bits there – in my view, they should have knocked the whole thing down and started again...

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True and arguably one of the best airports if you want to spot continuous and very varied traffic all day long. If ony for the weather...

The weather is always a risk at LHR – having said that, I’ve had enough nice days in the past few years to be able to get some good snaps of the action.

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I assume it was a full house? Still while waiting at the stairs you could easily have managed a photo session of this old lady.

Ha! I did contemplate getting the camera out at that point but I was holding too many things and did not want to risk dropping the camera! I really wanted to get a pic of the bird poop on the fuselage!

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What was your thought at first: one of the pax playing Tetris with the overhead panel?

I thought it was some overly demanding passenger !

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Excellent capturing. Can you guess how distant you were of the actual approach zone, 100’s of meters, kilometers,...?

Quite difficult, but with a 70-300mm lens, it was very easy to catch. I only needed about 150-200mm max.

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That’s Fethiye at the Southwest coast of Turkey.

Thank you!

Hi Mark

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Great read and pictures, thanks for sharing.

Thanks for your comments and glad you enjoyed.

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Had Boeing been on time with the 787 this flight may well have been operated by one, still, as you say nice to get a widebody on aEuropean flight, not too may sectors out there these days.

Very true – although I wonder whether LCA would have seen the 787 straight away? I suspect not but a nice experience for passengers on the 4hour plus flight if they did.

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Only flown her twice, some of her sisterships are up to five flights now.

I have a few flights on her sisterships too, including one to DUS back in 2007 which was pretty cool.

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I was on BNWA a few weeks back, very very tired looking inside, many of the overhead monitors were O/C

Yikes – well that does not sound surprising....!

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Sounds she needs a visit to the hanger to sort these issues out

Very true – I’ve heard this happening on other recent BA 767 flights.

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Now that's how all registrations should be, size wise!

No chance of missing that for sure!

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Not sure the wife would like it but Trip Adviser rates it as 14/42, I've made a note, will see if I can get a jolly there onver a long weekend.

The hotel is decent enough – nothing overly special other than its location. Staff however were all very welcoming and helpful.

Thanks Mark – Cheers!

Hi jwhite9185

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Oh dear, now I've got somewhere else to go and see! Great report, and also good to get a decent flight length on a wide body whilst still remaining in Europe!

Thanks for your comments - hope you get down to LCA soon!

Hi PlaneHunter

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excellent report with great pictures! The area where you stayed looks amazing, I need to go there one day. Also nice to see you had both one the oldest and one of the newest BA 763s.

Thanks PH – glad you enjoyed it. It was a great short trip to escape the horrible weather. Having said that, we had such amazing weather in MUC this past weekend, perhaps I should have just gone to MUC twice....?!!  Even though there may have been an almost 10 year age difference between the two 767s, they both felt as old as each other on the inside!

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Lufthansa's oldest active plane was built in 1986...it's fine as long as these planes are kept in good condition.

Agreed – but in BA’s case, the interiors did not give the impression that the rest of the aircraft was kept in good condition (even if this was the case)!

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Wow, great locations! I would love it.

Yes, I can imagine it being a favoured place for PH – perfect location.

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Actually I'm not a big fan of the 767 - the design is very boring IMO. But I'd still prefer it over most narrowbodies any day.

Really? That is a shame. I guess having seen the EK A380 up close at MUC on the weekend made me realise that in comparison, the B767 is a much nicer aircraft to look at, but having said that, most aircraft are more attractive than the whale jet!

Hi there KLASM83

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Hey, nice TR! They sure treat you nice on those long inter-Europe flights in Y! Thanks for all the neat pictures.

Thanks for your comments – glad you enjoyed the report too.

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Must be a 767 thing. Happened on my DEN-SFO flight in UA in 12/11.

Very weird! It’s only ever happened to me on this flight. Thanks again.

Hi Philip

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Hey great report and lovely photos all the way through . The B767 is a great catch as you know Ive been lucky enough to bag two since December on the ATH route.

Thanks for your comments – glad you enjoyed the report and pics. Yes, I remember you were also lucky to go retro on your recent ATH flights. Very cool.

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Thanks for the dedication

Sure! With such a great clear view of Athens, the username OA260 popped straight into my head!

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Never knew LCA was so good for spotting but then again Ive mostly flown to PFO and ECN. I only ever once flew out of LCA on a LO flight to WAW.

Yes, it was excellent. The authorities there did not seem to be too worried at all and nobody bothered me or asked me what I was doing. They seemed very relaxed. Did you do a report of the LO flight? That would have been interesting. As discussed – it would have been great to get on the SU IL96 flight – but as you said, it’s almost impossible to book!

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The meals were great and especially the Greek one on the return . Looks very tasty indeed.

The meal was great. Very generous serving of the main course and it was fresh and tasty. Kudos to the catering company in Larnaca.

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Im glad you like Cyprus its a great Island with great people.

Would love to go back sometime soon and see more of the island. Thanks again!



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User currently offlinevolvair From Germany, joined Oct 2011, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 16476 times:

Hi P/jet,

it seems you did get your money's worth at that weekend. Great weather, visiting a new country and excellent spotting opportunities. And you have produced a beautiful report of your experiences with many stunning pictures. No idea spotting opportunities were so good there, rare types and nice scenery combined... thanks a lot for putting this together and sharing it with us! Although BA lacked at some spots, the overall product still seems above (most) of the rest in Europe.


User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1908 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 16363 times:
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Hi Palmjet, thanks for sharing. I was on BNWB myself a few months ago (trip report coming up) and I agree with your thoughts about the BA 763. They look like they can come apart at any minute, but at the same time it's still a fantastic plane that's great to fly on!

Brgds,

Martijn



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1224 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 16090 times:

Hi volvair

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it seems you did get your money's worth at that weekend. Great weather, visiting a new country and excellent spotting opportunities. And you have produced a beautiful report of your experiences with many stunning pictures. No idea spotting opportunities were so good there, rare types and nice scenery combined... thanks a lot for putting this together and sharing it with us! Although BA lacked at some spots, the overall product still seems above (most) of the rest in Europe.

Thanks very much for your comments. I can highly recommend a break in Cyprus, particularly if you can combine sightseeing with spotting!

Hi Martijn

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Hi Palmjet, thanks for sharing. I was on BNWB myself a few months ago (trip report coming up) and I agree with your thoughts about the BA 763. They look like they can come apart at any minute, but at the same time it's still a fantastic plane that's great to fly on!


Glad you enjoyed it. Excellent - another report featuring BNWB! Look forward to reading that. I think a lot of people will miss them when BA finally get rid of them. Thanks again



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2500 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15912 times:

Hello Palmjet,

How nice to see the report popping up. It has been a while that I had the pleasure of reading any report about your recent trip.  



Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
For much of us in England, we have recently found ourselves surrounded by a strange turn of events when it comes to rain.

Just like in Netherlands. Though, I cannot complain at all about the weather of the last couple of days.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
While rain does not ordinarily bother me (how can it when I chose to voluntarily move to the UK?),

How do you do that? I just cannot get used to the rain after moving to Netherlands.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Why Larnaca? Firstly Cyprus has a great reputation for having generally good weather at this time of year and frankly, even if that was only a rumour, it could not be any worse than here. Secondly, I had never been there before and it would be a new country for me and a couple of my Cypriot friends here are also telling me I should go. Thirdly, LCA receives some interesting air traffic from the Middle East as well as Russia and Eastern Europe so that was a plus from an A.netter perspective. Fourthly, I had some BA avios to use and BA use B767-300ERs on the London – Larnaca route

As usual, I love reading the extensive background of your journey.  



Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
it’s been 5 years since I was last on a BA767.

I have never been on one.  



Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
BA’s LCA flight leaves from Terminal 3 so inevitably that means having to be bussed through the bowels of T3 to a remote gate in the middle of a construction site

Would it be there any spotting opportunity?

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Going retro seemed to be the theme for today!

I would love to see A380 either in BA or QF retro livery.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Although it was early and I sometimes find champagne has a negative effect on my innards, I decided to celebrate this tripette with a glass anyway.

There is nothing wrong with champagne breakfast.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
had a couple of top ups (orange juice that is)

No Mimosa in between?   



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Some cabin shots as the passengers started drifting in

I just love the huge tray tables of Economy class seats!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
One of the flight attendants looked just like Barbara Windsor, and seemed like she had spent hours getting all that hair arranged in such a complex way.

Did she not give you additional retro feeling?   



Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Passing an old friend when taxiing out - trip report coming!

Looking forward to it.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
but it’s one of the highlights for me when flying, to see the lights of a city down below, or the snow capped mountain ranges or deserts below and know where we are.

I could not agree more.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Breakfast consisted of orange juice, a roll, yoghurt and a few tiny pieces of fruit, and also for the main course, sausage, egg, bacon and mushrooms.
Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Dinner consisted of a decent sized slice of moussaka, a very small Greek salad with dressing, a bread roll, and an almond tasting slice of cake

BA does a great job on these! Along with full bar service in all classes!   



Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
and so were left with no other option than to disable all of the call buttons, which thankfully made the dinging stop.

I would not miss the call button. I prefer to walk to the galley if I need anything.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
reading my book about Oregon’s worst serial killer – Dayton Leroy Rogers. What is it with the Pacific Northwest and serial killers? First there was Ted Bundy in the 1970s in Washington, then the Green River killer and at the same time, Rogers in the mid 1980s.

Somewhat heavy lecture for a relaxing getaway.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Who says the best cloud formations can only be found in Asia!

You proved the otherwise, so I believe you.  



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With a stamp in my passport, I was through

I thought no stamp on passport would be needed for intra-EU travel.

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The only tip I have therefore is if you’re intending to use a taxi from the airport - don’t let the seemingly organised view of the taxi rank deceive you!

How different to Paphos. We paid a fixed taxi fee from the airport to the city.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Watching people watching planes

Plane spotter spotting!  



Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Looking out for some aliens!

  



Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
This Star Alliance Egyptair A330-200

Wow, apparently the load between Egypt and Cyprus justifies an A332 service.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
Very shiny floors

And what an appealing interior design!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
One middle aged lady looked like she had never heard for sunscreen before and she turned up at the gate looking like mutton dressed as lamb in a pair of Kylie style hot pants and very red legs and arms. Ouch

Indeed. It must have been painful with severe sunburn like that.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):
I would definitely like to come back sometime.

Do visit Paphos and its surroundings next time.


Thank you for sharing.

Warm regards,
Suryo  



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15489 times:

Nice trip report!

Decent BA service as always, and a great few days at the beach, so it seems!


User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1177 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 15103 times:
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Hi there Palmjet,
Excellent report with some great pictures, enjoyed it very much! BA service looks quite good

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Passing an old friend when taxiing out - trip report coming

Looking forward to that

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
You could not miss the registration.

hehe, the easiest planes to spot  
Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Looking out for some aliens!

haha

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
The highlight for me was seeing this Aeroflot IL96 on short finals. This was the second IL96 of the day!

Nice catch!

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
Late afternoon on Sunday also saw the arrival of this gorgeous Royal Jordanian EM195.

Love the livery on that EMB195

cheers,
Brendan


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 14909 times:

Hey, J.,

really good to follow you´re story finally. Well done, together with high quality pictures.
It seems that was a real good weekend by BA and Cyprus.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):

Passing an old friend when taxiing out - trip report coming!

Looking forward to this one.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):
but it’s one of the highlights for me when flying, to see the lights of a city down below, or the snow capped mountain ranges or deserts below and know where we are.
Quoting palmjet (Reply 1):

After a quick freshening up, and changing into much more summery clothing - yay, I headed out with camera in hand to do a bit of exploring. I always love visiting new places and having a wander around.

Exactly my way, like it.

Quoting palmjet (Thread starter):

And it was time to watch the Emirates A330 arrive in great evening light. EK offer an interesting routing through Larnaca from Dubai, with the flight then going onto Malta before coming back to Larnaca again and then back to Dubai.

Done this some three years ago on the 772.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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25 allrite : Great report as always Palmjet with gorgeous aerial photography. I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices the cloud formations. And what an interesti
26 Post contains images deltamartin : Hello Palmjet! Great report with nice pictures! Nice to see you fly one of the BA intra-europe 763 services. Sure is enjoyable to fly a widebody on a
27 lychemsa : BA meals are good but the legroom is tight. Next time go to Aghia Napa. Gorgeous beaches and great for young people.
28 Post contains images FlyingFinn76 : Hi PJ, Finally had some time to read through this report (did it actually onboard a place during last weekend's flight extravaganza...). A terrific re
29 Post contains images signol : Hi Palmjet, excellent report, thanks! Excellent idea! And an excellent price. 9k Avios too is a bargain for such a long flight. I flew her in November
30 Post contains images akhmad : My friend Palmjet, My former reply has disappeared for a mysterious reason, so allow me to repost it. How nice to see the report popping up. It has be
31 DeltaRules : Nice TR, good read! What's the small box on the bulkhead between the 3L and 3R doors? It looks too small to be a video monitor, but could make sense t
32 Post contains images palmjet : Hi volvair Thanks for your comments. It was a really nice, but short trip. BA were fine in most parts. Glad you enjoyed the report. Hi CrimsonNL Thank
33 Post contains links and images photoshooter : Hi Palmjet, Once again, a wonderful trip report... It's just amazing. Did any of those spotting pictures got accepted by a.net? Anyway, I very much li
34 Post contains images palmjet : Hi Photoshooter Thanks very much for your comments - very sorry for the delayed response. I did not submit any pics to a.net as I've never had any acc
35 PA330X : Really liked reading this report. Larnaca is just one of those places I still have yet to visit. Looks like a European St. Maarten with all of the tra
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