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User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 23597 times:

Hello A.netters!,

This is my very first report so please, be gentle. ; )

I've just recently found out about the Trip Reports section of A.net and I've been hooked ever since. I spend hours every week reading the posts, so I decided I should write my very own Trip Report next time I travel. Anyways, here it goes.

An overview of today’s SA Linhas Aereas">TR
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Having decided to go to the Canton Fair in Guangzhou, China (CAN), I started looking through the SA)">AA.com.ve (oneWorld geek over here!) and found an itinerary going CCS-JFK-HKG having the CCS-JFK leg operated by SA)">AA and the JFK-HKG by CX at around VEF 9.500 (USD 2,200), that was a great price for a Y class seat but just thinking about that CX flight for 16 hours or so in a Y seat was not very appealing to me even though I really wanted to try CX and finally be closer to my goal of achieving elite status on AAdvantage after my failed attempt last year (Last year I got to 23,500 just short of the 25k required for elite status).

So a close friend and the one who suggested we go to the Canton Fair suggested we use AF, which seems to be the airline of choice for Venezuelans going to China. I browsed through the airfrance.com.ve site and saw an excellent price for a Premium Voyageur seat at around VEF 15.500 (USD 3,600) which seemed like a great choice. After further discussion with my father, who is also my boss, we decided to go for it and I purchased the tickets on Jan 16, 2012.

While planning the trip I tried to look for Trip Reports in A.net to see the likes and dislikes of the AF Premium Voyageur product so I would know what to expect. AF's site has a video of the PV class and they make it look as if you're in Business Class but you don't know it, but I knew it was all rubbish.

Anyways, I couldn't find many reports, and I wanted to see the perspective of latin american's (venezuelans mostly) which have kind of a different look on airlines. Not finding many of them actually fueled my need to write this report. So I decided I would document every step of the way on this next flight.

So let's get this party started!.

VLN-CCS Leg

I live about 2 and a half hours away from Caracas, which means I have to find means of transportation to CCS whenever I need to travel. Valencia’s International Airport (VLN) is an example of the poor government since the birth of modern Venezuelan democracy over 60 years ago, ergo, international flights at VLN are limited to BOG, PTY, CUR, AUA (I may have missed one or two more) so in this case I need to travel to Caracas by car.

The trip went ok and it took just a little over 2:45 hours to get from my house in Valencia to CCS. This is almost PERFECT timing given the traffic in Caracas, which usually makes any trip that would normally take 2,5 hours take about 4-5 hours. Anyways, it was a Saturday so I guess we were kind of safe.

At the airport. The beginning of the CCS-CDG leg.

Although we had a 6:40 p.m. departure time I usually like to be very early at the airport, even if the counter is not open (One of the reasons SA)">AA is good for me in CCS is that the counters are always open and they can check you in very early). In this case I arrived at CCS at around 2:00 p.m. – 4:40 hours early – and I find the AF counters open and they were already checking people in (Yes!).

Checking in at CCS has become a rather painful experience for some people this past couple of years. While in line to check in, you are usually interviewed and searched by a National Guard officer usually in a very bad mood (I always think that it’s because we’re traveling and he is not – but that’s just me --) and he may even ask you to open your suitcase and go around your stuff. Should he find something suspicious you can bet you’re going to be there for a couple of hours. I can only assume this is the reason some airlines, AF in this case, open the check in counters this early.

I get in the line for the National Guard check up (can’t remember why I didn’t take a picture of that), and there was an AF agent checking people’s passports. I still had about 10 people in front of me in the line when the agent gets to my spot. I kindly asked if since I was on Premium Voyageur there was a priority queue, and he kindly took me to the front of the line to be checked by the National Guard.

After the wonderful experience with the National Guard (yeah right) I got in the Premium Voyageur line and in less than 5 minutes we were checked in.

We went straight to the security control section which was deserted (Yeah baby!) then straight to passport control. It took us less than 15 minutes to get from landside to airside. Absolutely wonderful so far.

After security, there was a Spanish man complaining on how much “security” is enforced at CCS. He was going on and on as to the National Guard asking him questions in the check in queue, and that he travels all over the world and he’d never been through so much security. I am personally annoyed by it (the National Guards), but it is also the result of drug-trafficking and Venezuela being so close to Colombia & Peru, which makes it a “transfer” country.

Anyways, we grabbed a bite at the food court inside the terminal and then headed to the Admiral’s Club, from which I’m a member.

My admiral’s club membership is one of my most valuable possessions as a travel geek. Also, there are ACs in most of the airports I often fly to, and I think I’ve taken the price it costs by ten on the free drinks. I plan to keep that membership for some time (Or at least until I get my SA)">AA Elite status).

Caracas’ Admiral’s Club is going through much needed refurbishment. This means that the space is limited and the lounge is shared for business class pax from AF, LH (what I heard) and I’m pretty sure they share with AZ. I couldn’t even take a picture of the place because of the amount of people in it.

Anyways, after watching a bit of the Real Madrid – Barcelona game and grabbing a couple of drinks, we decided to wait at the gate rather than at the lounge (you can imagine how packed it was).

The view of the concourse of Maiquetia's International terminal building (Caracas Simón Bolívar International Airport)


CCS Airport

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AF 0385 Caracas-Maiquetia (CCS) to Paris-Charles de Gaulle (CDG)
Date: 21/04/2012
Aircraft : Airbus A340-300
Registration: F-GLZM
Departure Time (Scheduled): 6:40pm
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A view of today's bird. Air France's A340-313X delivered on 23/10/1998


After walking around, I started some "spotting" (Note: I don't consider myself a spotter, I just take pictures with my crappy camera of planes I see around). Here's an AZ B-767 bound for FCO, I’m guessing this is one of the last days this beauty will be seen in CCS.


I see here a V0 A-340 (I'm guessing MAD-bound?) and a S3 B-767 (Definitely bound to MIA)


Here's LH A-340 bound for FRA

Boarding began shortly after 5:10p.m. With a very long queue for the Economy Cabin, we walked through the SkyPriority line and as they were scanning our boarding passes a red light started flashing in the machine. My first thought was a normal computer glitch that would be easily resolved but then I realized the entire economy queue was right behind us with the people making the typical faces.

Anyhow, they reprinted the boarding passes and BOOM! I was upgraded to Affaires (Business Class).

There is no way to express my happiness in words at that time. I’ve never flown long-haul business class and the first A.net trip report I read was fellow Venezuelan 797 (Enrique) talking about the Affaires class in Air France. Wicked!

Anyways, with a huge smile on my face I walked through the jetway and inside the plane with the famous “turning left” move.


A view of the jetway as I was walking in. The guy in the photo realized I was taking one so he stopped, got his camera out, and took some pictures too.


View of the bird from the jetway.


My seat.

I usually don’t take window seats because I like the space to get up and go to the lavatory or for a walk as I please without having to ask for permission. But in this case, I made an exception.

Walked to my seat when we realized my father and I were separated in the upgrade. Luckily, the lady sitting next to me was kind enough to go sit at my dad’s seat so he could seat beside me.

I didn’t have a view of the engines. So no pictures of that.


The safety card.


Good ol’ legroom shot (Seat pitch)


The screen on my IFE system. Pretty good I think.


Next to us sits the S3 B767 bound for MIA I guess.

While inspecting my seat, I noticed that there was some dirt and leftover nuts in the mid-seat compartment (my English is not that good, but I mean the thing that divides the 2 seats has a storage compartment right by your hip).


A view of the dirty compartment.

Shortly thereafter, the amenity was distributed. Then I met Victoria, our flight attendant, who spoke with a thick Spanish accent but was very friendly (this was particularly rare given the other three FAs I saw in the other legs of this trip)


Amenity Kit.


Contents of the amenity kit.

Clockwise from top left: Amenity kit bag, thermal socks, refreshing towel, AF explaining the contents, headphones cover (I thought this was convenient), an AF bag, a toothbrush, earplugs, and a Clarins hydrating creme.

Minutes later, Victoria came in with a choice of water, orange juice or champagne. Of course, we went with the Champagne.


View of the champagne.


Another view of the champagne.


Heaven on a plane.

Flightaware.com indicates a departure time for this flight at 6:49pm but I’m pretty sure it was around 7:10pm. I don’t know why I didn’t write it in my log.


The IFE map

Then Victoria went on to give us all hot towels.


Hot towels anyone?

At this point I started a movie that went on through the meal service.


Then she went on to give us the menu.


Starters!, with a glass of white wine.
I asked for bourbon but apparently they didn’t have any.

I was particularly impressed with the Apericreps from Traou Mad de Pont-Aven, they were tasty!.


View of the appetizer.


This was the best my crappy camera would take on the entrée.

I have to admit I wasn’t impressed with this entrée. I would have expected something far more tasteful than this given what I’ve seen in airlines like EY or SA. It was not bad, but short of my expectations.



View of the dessert.


Glass of cognac was excellent as a digestif.


I’m not a fan of lavatory photos and, although I did take them, I’m not posting them. But I did want to share this particular detail (Clarins Cleansing Milk and Tonic) which at first I thought was on every lavatory throughout the AF fleet, but later on I would realize it was only for the Affaires lavatories.



View of the galley and some FAs wrapping up the meal service.

After that great meal I finished my movie, then I went to the galley for another glass of wine but all I could find was champagne. Oh well, I had to settle with that :P.

Then I went on to sleep for the first time in a fully lie-flat bed on an airplane. There were not many expectations per se, but I was excited. So excited that I slept all the way through the rest of the flight, waking up just two hours away from landing. Perfect timing for the breakfast menu right?.

At this moment I understood why this class is called “Business”, I arrived in Paris feeling relaxed, something one would not expect from a 9 hour flight (at least me often traveling on Y). If I was going to Paris on business, the best choice would definitely to go with this class and get right to business as I arrive on location.

So, I wake up with two and a half hours to go. I put on some shows on the IFE and wait for breakfast.


View if the breakfast meal. Fine by me!

Shortly after breakfast, the chief purser came by and handed me a Customer Survey. This is the first time I’ve seen this on a plane and I don’t know if it’s done only in the business cabin. I always like to fill in surveys, so this was a treat for me.


The envelope with the survey inside.


The survey itself.

Afterwards I started looking out the window and looking at the beautiful French countryside. Here are some stills.







Here’s a short video of the landing view from my window. Please excuse the camera…
http://flic.kr/p/bWoDLQ


An AC plane (couldn’t identify the type from this angle).


A CX B-747 (Gorgeous!)


EY and SA)">AA side by side.


I was surprised to see a bunch of SA)">AA planes parked here. I thought they didn’t have many flights to CDG.


A FS A-320?


AF Head office in Roissy.

Please note the taxi took about a full 20 minutes. It was horrible!.


UX B-737


A BA A-320 perhaps?


A UX 737 on the SkyTeam livery.


Managed to snap a photo of this CZ bird.


Servair offices.


Heavy presence of AF at CDG.


A MEA plane parked in a sea of AF planes.


Nice to see this MK plane. It’s an A-340 right?


This looks nice.


The neighbors.


Ground handling crew. This one was taken as I was in the bus to take us to the terminal. That’s the bird we came into CDG.


One last view of F-GLZM


View of the tracks of the CDGVAL


Inside the CDGVAL from 2F to 2E.


Managed to snap this picture of an Aeroflot plane, couldn’t identify the type though. I’m guessing A-320 family?


A View of terminal 2E shops.


Gotta love the roof in this terminal!


I took a picture of this flight attendant because I love this uniform! This is VN FAs if I’m not mistaken.


A nice view of the departure hall.


Another view of the departure hall.


Snapped this one of this MU plane bound for PVG.


Never seen this one before, but it did look nice. This is SE France.


The Queen of the Skies!

The second leg. CDG-HKG

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AF 0184 Paris-Chales de Gaulle (CDG) to Hong Kong International Airport @ Chep Lap Kok (HKG)
Date: 22/04/2012
Aircraft : Boeing B-777-200
Registration:
Departure Time (Scheduled): 1:45pm (Actual 2:05pm)
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I strolled around looking for planes to spot and noticed that ours was just arriving at the gate. So I managed (with difficulty) to snap some photos of our ride.


Our B-777

There was an announcement that the flight would be delayed 15 minutes. Apparently everyone else understood that they had to line up to board.


Economy pax lining up for boarding.


Our flight!

Anyways, when they called the flight to board we went straight to the SkyPriority line and walked right through.

This was my first time on a B-777 and the first thing I noticed was the space above us. The overhead bins were high enough to give you a feeling of space I never noticed before on an aircraft. I think I remember I once flew a LA B-767 on the route CCS-SCL which also had this type of bins, but I don’t think I had that feeling of space like I had this time.

So people started pouring into the aircraft and I took some time to snap some photos.

My camera’s signature blurry legroom shot.


Complimentary Evian water bottles.

I recommend to those travelling long haul (I’m not an “experienced” long-haul flyer, but it’s worked for me) to buy a larger bottle of water and keep it handy. The bottles shown in this picture are rather small and you can drink them in a heartbeat. I dislike having to walk up to the galley or calling the FA every time I need water so having another bottle of water handy is a must for me.


View of the economy cabin from my seat.


Headlights on the Premium Voyageur seat. This came in handy later on.


The Premium Voyageur seat on this B-777


Our neighbor was the MU I saw earlier. Notice it was raining in CDG.


The power outlets on the Premium Voyageur seats. These were a great addition so I could charge my phone, iPod and iPad before I got the HKG.


The seatbelt buckle. What’s that tab it has there? I thought It was interesting and I’ve never seen it before.

A little before takeoff (boarding took forever), the FAs distributed the amenity kits.


The amenity kit. The only difference with the Affaires kit was the Clarins moisturizer.


View of the contents of the amenity kit.


Once again, a dirty mid seat compartment.


While taxiing for takeoff (took like 15 minutes – gosh!!!!) we passed by the King of the Skies.


Another look at the A-380


Today’s route.

I remember reading on some trip reports about the quietness of the B-777. This was one of the first things that impressed me about this aircraft.

About 20 minutes after takeoff we were handed the menu. I was hungry already!.


AF Premium Voyageur menu. Love this “artist interpretation” of the AF logo.


Blurry look at the menu.


English side of the menu.


Today’s appetizer. Didn’t like the crackers that much but the La Vielle Ferme 2010 vin de pays was tasty.


Today’s meal service was Basque-style chicken, wheat berries with vegetables, camembert cheese and a smoothie.


Another look at the meal service.

After that it was basically a normal trip, I watched a couple of movies and TV shows.

I have to admit that the legroom is key in the “Premium Economy” seat. Even though the seat is not extremely comfortable compared to the Business cabin seat, the legroom made the trip rather pleasant.

I slept only a couple of hours on this 11 hour flight, I wanted to use a technique I use in Europe which is trying not to sleep on the plane and then going all the way through the night on location without sleeping. This would force the my clock to adjust to the new timezone. Later on it would prove a difficult task.


Since I was sleepy, I didn’t notice there was no light and took this picture without flash. You can barely see the brakefast service though.


On a French newspaper we got at the gate in CDG I was surprised to see a full report on the decadent situation in Venezuela.

One of the strange things I experienced on this landing was the feeling we were landing in the water. The plane lands seconds after the start of the runway (which is like on the edge of the island). It was cool though.

So, here’s a glipse of the planes we looked at while taxiing. At this point my dad started to like seeing the planes (he was in the window seat).


Hong Kong’s CX is most of what you see in this Airport. (obviously)


First time looking at a HK plane.


KA planes all around too.


NX plane headed to MAC.


Another KA plane.


MH was in the house too!.

We deplaned rather quickly. At this point I noticed that the FAs stand at the division between premium and economy so the economy pax do not deplane before the Affaires and the Premium Passengers. This I felt was truly premium service.


Here’s a look at the MH neighbor after we got off the plane.


A look of HKG immigration.


HKIA!


Baggage Claim Hall


Another view of the baggage claim hall.


This is one of the cool hi-tech things I got to see at this airport (I don’t fly much to Europe or Asia so if this is in many other airports I’m excused  ). The conveyor belt that brings in the suitcases has a system where it stops when there are pieces of luggage in the main belt, this way there is no suitcase chaos!. Thought it was nice!.

Here’s a short blurry video of how the belt system works:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mvecchi4/7198702598/


My father’s suitcase suffered a minor accident. Not cool AF!


Mine was spared.


Another view of the Baggage Claim hall.


View outside the Baggage Claim hall.


Another view of the Terminal.

Shortly after taking these pictures I realized I had left the 2 pack of scotch my father bought in CDG in the overhead bin of the plane. We rushed to the AF counter and asked to see if they could bring us the bottles and they were kind enough to let us know that they were already there. After filling out and signing a form we were on our way with our bottles. Extra points for AF!.

At this point I realized that the ground staff for AF at HKG is not actual AF personnel but a ground handling company. Didn’t catch a name though.


View of the arrivals hall at HKG.

At this point I was a little concerned I didn’t see any indication of the SkyPier to get the ferry for Macau (which was our final destination of the day). After asking around I realized we shouldn’t have gone through immigration and baggage claim and that there was a special section inside the terminal we should’ve used. Anyways, they directed us to the A11 bus further down the terminal to get to the HK Ferry Terminal.

This concludes the CDG-HKG leg, but I’ll continue with the HKG-MAC leg which happened shortly thereafter. This is a mini SA Linhas Aereas">TR inside the main I’ll put up some pictures of the Ferry transfers so you can take a look, after all, the ferry is a Boeing Jetfoil.

The Hong Kong – Macau leg


Leaving HKG


The passage to terminal 2


Headed to “Airbus” uh?


The bus taking us to the Ferry Pier.


Oh! You mean THIS airbus.


Money money!.

After arriving at the Ferry Pier some 20 minutes later, we went straight to the TurboJet ticket counter, got our tickets and went straight to the Departure Hall. Here are some pics.


Walking to the Departure Hall.


Lining up to get our seat assignment.

You don’t get your seat assignment until you’re actually at the door, there’s an attendant with some stickers and when you get to the door they will tell you where you’ll sit.


The departure hall at the HK Ferry Terminal.


Our ride to Macau is a Boeing 929 Jetfoil


Jetway? Seabridge?


The seat.


The view from the seat.


Blurry legroom shot.


Another view.


Snacks for purchase.

The trip takes an hour from Hong Kong to Macau, it was rather pleasant with no major issues. I have to recommend TurboJet to anyone going from HK to Macau.


Arriving at Macau.


Arrival hall at Macau’s ferry terminal.


Outside view of Macau’s Ferry Terminal.


Our ride to the Hard Rock Hotel Macau.


Macau!


And the last pic!

Hope you find this trip report enjoyable. I may be posting other trips coming this year if this turns out ok.

Future trips:
*.- CCS-LIM on LA - August
*.- CCS-ATL-MCO on DL – October

Miguel.

[Edited 2012-05-26 15:26:28]

26 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 23522 times:

Great trip report, nice pics as well, thanks for sharing. Im hoping to go to HKG one day 
Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
An AC plane (couldn’t identify the type from this angle).

Its a 77W (777-300ER)



Reality be Rent. Synapse, break! Vanishment, This World!
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 23268 times:

Thanks mvecchi4, very nice report! Lucky you got the upgrade!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Shortly after taking these pictures I realized I had left the 2 pack of scotch my father bought in CDG in the overhead bin of the plane. We rushed to the AF counter and asked to see if they could bring us the bottles and they were kind enough to let us know that they were already there. After filling out and signing a form we were on our way with our bottles. Extra points for AF!.

I left my headphones on a MH plane in HKG - the ground crew found them, and I got them back the next day



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User currently offlineb6flyboy From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22984 times:
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The tab on the seatbelt is for the airbag system. When the seatbelt is buckled the tab completes the circuit and the airbag is ready in case there is an event. This way if an airbag seatbelt is unlatched during an event it will not activate at the unoccupied seat.


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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3332 posts, RR: 45
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22875 times:

Wonderful report! I enjoyed your spirit, and the pictures were nice as well. Seems AF is ok, but nothing great, either in J or W.

Thanks again!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2074 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 22281 times:

Fantastic first TR! Thanks for sharing. I've always been very fond of the architecture at CDG, even though the airport itself is a big mess.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
NX plane headed to MAC.

As you probably noticed, HKG and MFM are too close for air service. That NX plane was probably in HKG for MX service.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 21105 times:

Hi

Nice first TR! pretty good report of your AF flight.
Nice to see Prem Voyageur as well.

Greetings
Marc



Next trip report: Well worn A330s and Hassle free MUC transfer
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 20 hours ago) and read 21073 times:

Great first report! very nice to see another Venezulean person here in anet!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Having decided to go to the Canton Fair in Guangzhou, China (CAN), I started looking through the SA)">AA.com.ve (oneWorld geek over here!) and found an itinerary going CCS-JFK-HKG having the CCS-JFK leg operated by SA)">AA and the JFK-HKG by CX at around VEF 9.500 (USD 2,200), that was a great price for a Y class seat but just thinking about that CX flight for 16 hours or so in a Y seat was not very appealing to me even though I really wanted to try CX and finally be closer to my goal of achieving elite status on AAdvantage after my failed attempt last year (Last year I got to 23,500 just short of the 25k required for elite status).

well finally with the upgrade the AF was of course the better choice but I would gone with AA just because of the miles! I did a milage run last year with LA/CX combo LIM-HKG-LIM ... What I noticed that AA and UA are the cheapest carrier to Asia out of CCS - i am planing for this year october a trip to Japan, the best price is with UA / AA at around 9.000 VEF.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
So a close friend and the one who suggested we go to the Canton Fair suggested we use AF, which seems to be the airline of choice for Venezuelans going to

and for the chinese expats living in Venezuela and chinse visiting Venezuela too.
I can good remember that my wife called me once from CDG - (she was travelling on a MUC-CDG-CCS flight) tellig me that she was confused because she was waiting at the gate for the CCS flight but she saw only Chinese persons, so she was worried to end up in PVG, PEK or HKG instead of CCS...

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
The trip went ok and it took just a little over 2:45 hours to get from my house in Valencia to CCS. This is almost PERFECT timing given the traffic in Caracas, which usually makes any trip that would normally take 2,5 hours take about 4-5 hours. Anyways, it was a Saturday so I guess we were kind of safe.

also the traffic passing Maracay is a nightmare, I am travelling minimum twice per month by Car to VLN visiting our office and normally it takes me 4 hours one way --- because there is always a problem on the highway

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Checking in at CCS has become a rather painful experience for some people this past couple of years. While in line to check in, you are usually interviewed and searched by a National Guard officer usually in a very bad mood (I always think that it’s because we’re traveling and he is not – but that’s just me --) and he may even ask you to open your suitcase and go around your stuff. Should he find something suspicious you can bet you’re going to be there for a couple of hours. I can only assume this is the reason some airlines, AF in this case, open the check in counters this early.

its really a shame, specially the National Guards are in my view persons without any educations, these guys can barley speak a decen Spanish, at least you have this drama only on Europe bound flights.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
We went straight to the security control section which was deserted (Yeah baby!) then straight to passport control. It took us less than 15 minutes to get from landside to airside. Absolutely wonderful so far.

have to say at CCS these processes are running well and much better than 2 or 3 years ago

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Anyways, we grabbed a bite at the food court inside the terminal and then headed to the Admiral’s Club, from which I’m a member.

thats the way! I try to have always a nice Arepa at the food court before leaving the country for some days / weeks.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
I see here a V0 A-340 (I'm guessing MAD-bound?) and a S3 B-767 (Definitely bound to MIA)

can Conviasa fly again to Spain? or are they still banned? yes it was MIA because the PTY flight leaves at noon CCS

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Anyhow, they reprinted the boarding passes and BOOM! I was upgraded to Affaires (Business Class).

thats the way!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
I recommend to those travelling long haul (I’m not an “experienced” long-haul flyer, but it’s worked for me) to buy a larger bottle of water and keep it handy. The bottles shown in this picture are rather small and you can drink them in a heartbeat. I dislike having to walk up to the galley or calling the FA every time I need water so having another bottle of water handy is a must for me.

the problem is that on many flights its still not allowed to bring liquids with you!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Headlights on the Premium Voyageur seat. This came in handy later on.

looks pritty good, also the food seems to be regular Eco class food? Before I was a hughe AF fan for the Europe flights ex CCS and I used them pritty often for my trips back to Germany, but this was when they still used the 744 on the route. the eco section in the upper deck was just great! no way I will fly AF when they use the 777 on the CCS route. the A343 is acceptable but I prefere the A346 of LH!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
My father’s suitcase suffered a minor accident. Not cool AF!

did you claimed it? had some years ago a similar case on a CCS-CDG-MUC run with AF, I claimed and within 1 week they send me a new suitcase!

thanks again for the great trip report!

saludos
Avianca



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User currently offlineabrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5124 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 20669 times:

Thanks a lot for the report, and welcome onboard the A.Net trip reports section. It is always great to have another Venezuelan onboard the community to join the good ones like Avianca and 797!

Good experience overall with AF. Why were all the other FA's not as good as the Spanish one you had on the CCS/CDG flight?

Finally, I personally have never had any bad experiences with the National Guards. While I find them rather ignorant, I have been through enough countries to say that they are just like the same elsewhere. Given the amount of drug related challenges with having Colombia next door (EVERY EU inbound flight is now screened behind the scene on arrival - especially with bags tagged from BOG), I see it as necessary. I just had one poor incident -- this was on the jetbridge prior to departure to FRA -- but given the amount of times I fly ex-CCS, this was minor.

Thanks again for sharing this report, and welcome again.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1951 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 20563 times:
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Really nice report, mvecchi4!

Flying in Affaires looks really nice, and I'll agree with you on how you feel when you land in Europe having flown in Business Class overnight. It definitely makes the difference! When my fiancee and I traveled to Copenhagen last September, we flew in Business from Washington to Copenhagen, and felt so re-freshed by the time we landed in Copenhagen!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
This is the first time I’ve seen this on a plane and I don’t know if it’s done only in the business cabin. I always like to fill in surveys, so this was a treat for me.

What a cool idea. I also love to fill in surveys, and so I would have enjoyed this as well. Premium Voyageur also looks awesome. What a nice job, AF!

Best,

Matthew (767747)


User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 20262 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 1):
Great trip report, nice pics as well
Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 1):
Thanks mvecchi4, very nice report!
Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 4):
Wonderful report! I enjoyed your spirit, and the pictures were nice as well
Quoting Coal (Reply 5):
Fantastic first TR! Thanks for sharing.
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):
Nice first TR! pretty good report of your AF flight
Quoting Avianca (Reply 7):
Great first report! very nice to see another Venezulean person here in anet!
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 8):
Thanks a lot for the report
Quoting 767747 (Reply 9):
Really nice report, mvecchi4!

Thank you all, I'm still getting adjusted to writing in here. Hopefully the next ones will be better!. (I wouldn't say much for my camera, getting those shots were difficult because most of the times the pics are blurry.

Quoting b6flyboy (Reply 3):
The tab on the seatbelt is for the airbag system

That would've never crossed my mind. Thanks a lot for the info!.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 7):
can Conviasa fly again to Spain? or are they still banned? yes it was MIA because the PTY flight leaves at noon CCS

They were banned from using their own planes, pilots and crew. I have a cousin who is a pilot (Of CRJs) in V0 and he mentioned (if I remember correctly) that they're using Icelandair's? (I think - just like SBA Airlines was doing with their 767) and he even spotted an Air Tahiti Nui A340 a couple of days ago (this one shocked me). They're flying to MAD, but not by themselves.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 7):
well finally with the upgrade the AF was of course the better choice but I would gone with AA just because of the miles! I did a milage run last year with LA/CX combo LIM-HKG-LIM ... What I noticed that AA and UA are the cheapest carrier to Asia out of CCS - i am planing for this year october a trip to Japan, the best price is with UA / AA at around 9.000 VEF.

UA???? No way!. What dates? Online quote or Travel Agent?

I will have to continue to go CAN or HKG in the future and I'm planning to do my next trip on AA/CX just so I can get a hold of that failed AAdvantage elite status last year (just a couple thousand miles short). I'm taking a DL flight to MCO this october (I go every October on AA) so I can get my elite on AF's FlyingBlue so doing it for AAdvantage is only a matter of time. Hopefully, AA will start launching their new preimum economy product (which CX is also introducing) so that I can evaluate them both having had the experience on AF.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 8):
its really a shame, specially the National Guards are in my view persons without any educations, these guys can barley speak a decen Spanish, at least you have this drama only on Europe bound flights

I remember having to put up with a National Guard on a Aserca/Pawa Dominicana flight in Dec 2010 with route CCS-CUR-SDQ (I got off in CUR). I'm guessing Dominican Republic is in the eye of traffiking these days?. Not only he was rude, he was making all Dominicans open their luggage in a very nasty way.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 8):
looks pritty good, also the food seems to be regular Eco class food? Before I was a hughe AF fan for the Europe flights ex CCS and I used them pritty often for my trips back to Germany, but this was when they still used the 744 on the route. the eco section in the upper deck was just great! no way I will fly AF when they use the 777 on the CCS route. the A343 is acceptable but I prefere the A346 of LH!

Yes, it's Y class food served with a little more attention to detail I guess. I think you're paying for the fancy seat + leagroom + priority boarding. They actually didn't allow us to use the lavatories for the Affaires class in the A340, unlike the B777 because the Affaires lavatory was in the PV cabin.

I flew in the 744 back in Dec 2008 but I wasn't too much into aviation and I didn't pay much attention. I don't remember having a "great experience" back then.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 8):
Good experience overall with AF. Why were all the other FA's not as good as the Spanish one you had on the CCS/CDG flight?

I wouldn't say all AFs crew were rude or anything, but the effort this first FA made was lovely. I'm pretty sure that it's because of the Affaires cabin but that's just me.

The others, while very attentive and with good service, were not as "friendly" and "warm" as the first one.


Thanks everyone, all your comments are most appreciated!


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 20164 times:

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 10):
They were banned from using their own planes, pilots and crew. I have a cousin who is a pilot (Of CRJs) in V0 and he mentioned (if I remember correctly) that they're using Icelandair's? (I think - just like SBA Airlines was doing with their 767) and he even spotted an Air Tahiti Nui A340 a couple of days ago (this one shocked me). They're flying to MAD, but not by themselves.

or are they using EuroAtlantic 767 ? I saw them every time I am in CCS, and in the first 4 month of the year I traveled basically every week, now much less.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 10):
UA???? No way!. What dates? Online quote or Travel Agent?

its basically before or after the elections. always online, the last time I used a travel agent is I think 15 years ago.... ask abrelosojos, I am a kind of a online bargain specialist   . I am still thinking if I should use UA (in order to get Star Gold Status, I am right now silver with United and Avianca) or AA, were it costs around 9500 VEF, I am One World Sapphire but so far this year didnt used a One World Carrier so far, as I was the last 3 yearss LIM based.. and hence used a lot LP.

So far I am planing this trip alone, let me know if you would like to joine?

Cheers
Avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1168 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 20147 times:
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Hello there,
Great first report, thanks for sharing! Looks like you had 2 nice flights with AF. Too bad about the 2 dirty "mid seat compartments". Great idea to add the Hong Kong - Macau ferry service, looks quite interesting!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
This is my very first report so please, be gentle

Welcome to the TR forum  
Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Not finding many of them actually fueled my need to write this report.

Good choice!'

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):

Anyhow, they reprinted the boarding passes and BOOM! I was upgraded to Affaires (Business Class).

Wow, thats nice!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
An AC plane (couldn’t identify the type from this angle).

That's a 777-300

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
A FS A-320?

A320 is correct  
Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
A BA A-320 perhaps?

Thats a BA A321 actually

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Nice to see this MK plane. It’s an A-340 right?

Yes  
Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
I’m guessing A-320 family?

Also correct!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
While taxiing for takeoff (took like 15 minutes – gosh!!!!)

Well, that's pretty "usual" at big and busy airports.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
(I don’t fly much to Europe or Asia so if this is in many other airports I’m excused ). The conveyor belt that brings in the suitcases has a system where it stops when there are pieces of luggage in the main belt, this way there is no suitcase chaos!. Thought it was nice!.

hehe, I get what you mean. A lot of airports have that actually

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Another view of the Baggage Claim hall.

The lady in front of you noticed you taking the picture hehe

Thanks again for sharing! Looking forward to your next reports

cheers,
Brendan


User currently offlineedgaren From Venezuela, joined Feb 2006, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 19226 times:

Hey man, welcome to anet. Excellent and very entertaining trip report. my favorite part of it was definitely the video featuring the very tech conveyor belt I've never seen that. Regarding your comments on VLN airport, i couldnt agree more with you, as a Valencia resident I feel very embarrased by it.


Keep the good reports coming.


Edgar.


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18586 times:

Hola Miguel!

Excelent Trip Report! Congratulations man! Great to see you got upgraded! It happened to me once a looooot of years ago!  

You are flying to LIM in August? If you need anything, let me know  

Saludos,
Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 17799 times:

Hey all!

Quoting edgaren (Reply 13):
Regarding your comments on VLN airport, i couldnt agree more with you, as a Valencia resident I feel very embarrased by it.

Not much to say here, but I feel that too. I guess is an experience I often tell people they should go through when visiting Valencia, just to see the things that shouldn't be done.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 14):
Congratulations man! Great to see you got upgraded! It happened to me once a looooot of years ago!

Thanks! I'm still psyched!

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 14):
You are flying to LIM in August? If you need anything, let me know  

Yes, I'm taking LP to LIM the 2nd week of August and I'm right now deciding if I should use Peruvian or StarPerú for CUZ. I have to admit I would love to ride those BAe StarPerú has. Pherhaps we should meet, grab a drink and talk planes? (see below)

Quoting Avianca (Reply 11):
as I was the last 3 yearss LIM based

Are you still LIM based? I'm headed there in August pherhaps we would grab a drink sometime and talk planes (See above)

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 12):
ask abrelosojos, I am a kind of a online bargain specialist

Hey!, I consider myself that!. Maybe I can get some pointers to get better deals?.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 12):
So far I am planing this trip alone, let me know if you would like to joine?

Sounds interesting, let me know.

Best regards to all of you. Thanks for commenting, always appreciated!


User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2784 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 17449 times:

Hi, Welcome to the SA Linhas Aereas">TR family, nice to see another fellow Venezuelan here!

Excellent SA Linhas Aereas">TR and pictures, looks like you had a nice experience on Affaires and Premium Economy on AF, and of course I always enjoy looking at SA Linhas Aereas">TR´s about HKG.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
I was surprised to see a bunch of SA)">AA planes parked here. I thought they didn’t have many flights to CDG.

Well, they do come from JFK, ORD, DFW and other AA bases I guess  
Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Money money!.

Is so funny...  did you noticed they are issued by both HSBC and Bank of China?

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Our ride to the Hard Rock Hotel Macau.

Oh god, me and my GF tood a daytrip to Macau last november (also on Turbojet) we wandered around the main area of Macau, then took a bus to the other island (taipa?) and tried to look for this hotel (my friend collects HRC shot-glasses) but we could not find it, we were just wondering around with a sketchy map of the area, tiredness settled in, and night fell so we abandoned the mission, took a bus and left LOL.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Macau!

I liked Macau a lot, very interesting to read portuguese signs all the way in China!

Hope you had time to explore HKG as well, it is truly a great city with a cool buzz, i certainly long to return soon.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 17093 times:

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 15):
Are you still LIM based? I'm headed there in August pherhaps we would grab a drink sometime and talk planes (See above)

no since 3 months back in CCS - today I am right now in your city VLN... lets see if we can meet the next time when I am in VLN or when you are going to CCS

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 15):
Hey!, I consider myself that!. Maybe I can get some pointers to get better deals?.

the pointers are long nights in front of the www, in first place an angry wife, and afterwards a happy wife joining the crazy trips  
Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 15):
Sounds interesting, let me know.

for sure will send you some more details via PM.

Cheers
Avianca

btw, I searched faris for the next Canton Fair in October . found some nice fares with CM/CZ combo via PTY/LAX for under 9.000 VEF



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8561 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16805 times:
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Hi,

Great first report, thanks for sharing with us, not to many AF SA Linhas Aereas">TR's out there, especially of their Y+ product.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Boarding began shortly after 5:10p.m. With a very long queue for the Economy Cabin, we walked through the SkyPriority line and as they were scanning our boarding passes a red light started flashing in the machine. My first thought was a normal computer glitch that would be easily resolved but then I realized the entire economy queue was right behind us with the people making the typical faces.

Anyhow, they reprinted the boarding passes and BOOM! I was upgraded to Affaires (Business Class).

- Nice result!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
While inspecting my seat, I noticed that there was some dirt and leftover nuts in the mid-seat compartment

- Hmm, cleaning issue here, seems the contractors don't have sufficient supervision.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Victoria came in with a choice of water, orange juice or champagne. Of course, we went with the Champagne.

- Interesting it is served in a tumbler, being AF would have expected a more Champagne/wine like glass.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
This was the best my crappy camera would take on the entrée.

I have to admit I wasn’t impressed with this entrée. I would have expected something far more tasteful than this given what I’ve seen in airlines like EY or SA

- Looks dire, what on earth was it?

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Shortly after breakfast, the chief purser came by and handed me a Customer Survey

- Well done AF, give the survey to the upgrade guy, bound to get good marks!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
I took a picture of this flight attendant because I love this uniform! This is VN FAs if I’m not mistaken

- Indeed you are correct, based on the national dress, the girls look great in it!

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
The Premium Voyageur seat on this B-777

- Looks comfy enough.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Once again, a dirty mid seat compartment.

- Seems to be a common problem at AF, will be interesting to see how your return flights fair.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
I remember reading on some trip reports about the quietness of the B-777. This was one of the first things that impressed me about this aircraft.

- Really? - The 777 is on record as being the noisy machine out of todays twins and quads.

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Today’s meal service was Basque-style chicken, wheat berries with vegetables, camembert cheese and a smoothie

- Looks ok, though I don't get the smoothie, to me that's a breakfast drink......

Quoting Coal (Reply 5):
That NX plane was probably in HKG for MX service.

- Nope, NX operate a number of services for CA on the PEK-HKG-PEK runs.

Looking forward to your return report.

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16221 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 17):
did you noticed they are issued by both HSBC and Bank of China?

This is one of the things that amazed me about it. Very cool!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
lets see if we can meet the next time when I am in VLN or when you are going to CCS

When I figure out how to send a PM I guess I can send you contact info.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
the pointers are long nights in front of the www, in first place an angry wife, and afterwards a happy wife joining the crazy trips  

I actually called my girlfriend to come and read this. I guess now she understands the perks they get from mileage running!.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
- Interesting it is served in a tumbler, being AF would have expected a more Champagne/wine like glass.

Didn't think of that before but you're absolutely right. France should honor their wine heritage with a wine glass.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
Looks dire, what on earth was it?

I lost the menu since I was supposed to include that info in the TR but I will look further and let you know. In general terms it was chicken and the mashed potatoes if I'm not mistaken.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
Well done AF, give the survey to the upgrade guy, bound to get good marks!

This made me laugh so hard, but absolutely right!!!!.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
- Really? - The 777 is on record as being the noisy machine out of todays twins and quads.

I will have to disagree. At least compared to the A346 I flew from CCS the difference is noticeable. I also read that depends if you're in front or behind the engines that you get the sense of noise. Apparently being in the back of the plane is dreadful.

In this case, it was very quiet. But like I said, that's compared to the A346 which was the closest I had to compare.

Cheers!,

Miguel.


User currently offlineTJCAB From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 15707 times:

First of all, an excellent trip report that I enjoyed reading from beginning to end. You lucky you on the upgrade.

Quoting b6flyboy (Reply 3):
A view of the dirty compartment.

...to be fair, i would blame the cleaning crew. I would be more critical on an outbound flight from CDG, but, yeah it needs to be addressed.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
My father’s suitcase suffered a minor accident. Not cool AF!

could be baggage handling at any one of the three airports. AF ultimately is liable, however.


User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15266 times:

Quoting TJCAB (Reply 20):
...to be fair, i would blame the cleaning crew. I would be more critical on an outbound flight from CDG, but, yeah it needs to be addressed.

Both flights had the dirty compartment. However, both return flights had them spotless. I'm not sure why my CCD-CDG-HKG flights had the problem.


User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 426 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (1 year 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 11418 times:

Hi mvecchi4 !

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
So I decided I would document every step of the way on this next flight.

and we a.net community expect it from you heheheh

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
There is no way to express my happiness in words at that time. I’ve never flown long-haul business class and the first A.net trip report I read was fellow Venezuelan 797 (Enrique) talking about the Affaires class in Air France.

lucky lucky man and congratulations

Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
While taxiing for takeoff (took like 15 minutes – gosh!!!!)

so !!?? you are sitting in Y+ or J cabins ... where is the problem ?  
Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
Here’s a short blurry video of how the belt system works:

interesting system

thanks for effort ...stipica  



Open your eyes and think
User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 23, posted (1 year 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 11061 times:

Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 19):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
- Interesting it is served in a tumbler, being AF would have expected a more Champagne/wine like glass.

Didn't think of that before but you're absolutely right. France should honor their wine heritage with a wine glass.

The wine glass was actually designed by the 2000 world's Meilleur Sommelier du Monde Olivier Poussier exclusively for AF. They're fantastic glasses.

-G



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User currently offlinetriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 10877 times:
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Quoting mvecchi4 (Thread starter):
At this point I was a little concerned I didn’t see any indication of the SkyPier to get the ferry for Macau (which was our final destination of the day). After asking around I realized we shouldn’t have gone through immigration and baggage claim and that there was a special section inside the terminal we should’ve used. Anyways, they directed us to the A11 bus further down the terminal to get to the HK Ferry Terminal.

If you're final destination is Macau, you do not need to clear immigration and customs in HKG. I flew from Tokyo to Hong Kong and was told by the flight attendant to follow the signs for the ferry to Macau; I did not need to clear immigration in HKG. Because of that, I saved an hour and got to Macau early.
I don't know how it works if you check your bags, however. I usually try to fly with a carry on and my lap top just to avoid that.



Have you kissed a 777 today?
25 mvecchi4 : Hey all! True. Then again the airports I fly to a relatively small... Whoa, I didn't know that. Thanks! That is correct. It works with checked bags as
26 OzGlobal : It's actually a wine glass, minus the stem for the sake of stability and to keep the same tapered shape to glass. Not my favourite, but at least that
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