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To BERlin? No, To TXL...: BRU-TXL-AMS-TXL-BRU  
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1703 posts, RR: 30
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introduction

Berlin Tegel "Otto Lilienthal" Airport (TXL) is the main international airport in Berlin. It lies in Tegel, a section of the northern borough of Reinickendorf, 8 km northwest of the city centre of Berlin. Tegel Airport is notable for its hexagonal terminal building around an open square, which makes for walking distances as short as 30m from the aircraft to the terminal exit. In 2010, the airport served just over 15 million passengers, making it by far the biggest airport serving Berlin and the fourth busiest airport in Germany. Nowadays, it operates way over capacity.
Berlin Schönefeld Airport (SXF) is an international airport located near the town of Schönefeld in Brandenburg, directly at the southern border of Berlin and 18 km southeast of the city centre. Today, it is the smaller of the two Berlin airports that are still in operation. This airport as well has reached it’s capacity limits.

In 2006 began the construction of a new airport: Berlin Brandenburg Airport (BER), located at the existing Berlin Schönefeld Airport site. The terminal infrastructure of the existing Berlin Schönefeld Airport will be closed in 2013 while some of the airport's infrastructure will be incorporated into the greatly expanded airport area to the south. The airport will inherit Schönefeld's existing southern runway, which will become the new airport's northern runway.

The much-publicized opening date was scheduled for Sunday, 3rd June 2012. As this was an event not to be missed, an a.net meet was planned this weekend to celebrate both the end of the TXL era and the start of the new BER operations. Most attendees to this meet booked flights to arrive on Sat at TXL and leaving Sun at BER. I as well booked some flights to this grand event, giving me another opportunity to log some new types and of course airports:

Sat::
BRU-TXL on Brussels Airlines’ A319
TXL-AMS on KLM’s B738
Sun::
AMS-BER on KLM’s B737
BER-BRU on Brussels Airlines’ RJ100

The Brussels Airlines flights set me back some € 120, the KLM flights some € 90. It would also be my first time in TXL and BER of course and my first flights on mainline KLM. The night in AMS was spent in the intra-airport Yotel Hotel (more on that later).

And on a map (thanks to the excellent www.gcmap.com, copyright Karl L Schwartz):


Of course things weren’t meant to be. A few weeks (!) before the grand BER opening, the news was announced that due to technical difficulties - primarily dealing with fire safety and smoke exhaust systems - the opening will be delayed ‘indefinitely’. A major setback, not only for us enthusiasts but as well for Germany and German aviation in general. Well, nothing to do about it so the meeting was kinda rescheduled to TXL and TXL alone. As a bonus we now had the opportunity to sample one more currywurst at the famous ‘Essbahn’  
Meanwhile a new opening date is scheduled for March 17th 2013...

What changed then for me particularly? No landing in BER but in TXL on Sunday, a fact that also the captain in charge of the AMS-TXL flight would comment on (more on that later as well).

on to TXL - take 1

Thanks to my ever trustful taxi and father I find myself at a calm and peaceful Sat afternoon at BRU’s terminal A. Security screening is light as ever nowadays:


And the usual occupants at the T gates acknowledge my presence as well:


The weather is quite good. Some medium easterly winds which will hopefully translate into a runway 07R departure, a nice change!
For the 3rd time in a row, the flight is serviced from gate A50. All good things are 3, remember, so my mind is uplifted right away.

With OO-SSV having the honors today I’ll have a new entry in the log as well:




BRU to TXL
SN2585
A319 OO-SSV
STD-STA 15h20-16h45
Y class
seat 22F


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The crew however is not all smiles, I’m greeted because ‘I have to be greeted’. I guess they all want to be somewhere else today. No cockpit announcements whatsoever as well on this flight...
Not that is matters much to me, I have my window and 2 nice older ladies next to me. In contrast to my flight to CPH a few weeks ago: Brussels And Scandinavian: BRU-CPH-BRU (by Sultanils May 7 2012 in Trip Reports), this plane is equipped with the thinish seats. The seat pocket features the usual contents:


And legroom is quite good as well:


We get our push a little behind schedule:




And make our way to the expected 3211m runway 07R, passing BRU’s petrol station on the way. There’s no sign with petrol prices posted luckily:


We pass by the Sabena Technics hangar. Sadly this company was in the news again last week announcing another wave of people probably getting the sack... Competition is hard as well in the sector of aircraft maintenance:


Shouldn’t this one be flying somewhere over Congo?


The engines spool up and off we ride:


We get some nice views on climbout east of the city of Brussels:




These people get most of the final approaches and some departures over their houses:


Some more nice views as we cruise over the Belgian countryside:


The city of Leuven:


Hello Düsseldorf airport!


Meanwhile the crew has rolled out their goody box cart and when they make a pass, I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of € 4:


The flight meanders along and I entertain myself with some music and the views on the fluffy clouds outside:


The closer we come to the Berlin area, the thicker and more violent the clouds become. Eventually we dive into the murk and into some nasty turbulence as well:






Our approach path leads us to the north of Berlin. After passing the city on the right hand side and a few more right turns we are on finals for 3154m runway 26R.

I’m on the right and left side and get treated to some fine Berlin city views. We pass some reminiscents of the past:




THF behind the TV tower:


Very near now:


Some 5 minutes ahead of schedule we make contact with terra firma again:


After which we taxi to a parking spot at the D-terminal - or rather D-hangar...


Parking brakes on!


Some stairs are rolled onto the front cabin door and people start to disembark. At the very last instance also the rear door is opened which gives me a good oppotunity to sneak out by the back door and shoot some more shots. No doubt about the identity of this plane:




After a 100m busride, we are dropped at the E exit and a few steps later I’m landside at TXL for the very first time. Some more a.net member should be arriving around the same time as me, so I set off in search of some fellow plane geeks. Not that I have so much time because I’m only here today for an hour or 2 before going on to AMS.

TXL’s market lane, which is quite familiar to many of you I guess:


After some (data) roaming (around) I eventually manage to hook up with parton87 and later on also with airbuseric, akhmad and MEA-707 who came in on the KLM flight that is supposed to take me to AMS. A few minutes later, also captainred and rogerBCN come to join.

on to AMS

Not much more time for me than just shaking hands and saying ‘hi’ at the moment because I urgently have a flight to catch.


A SSK nearby provides me with a boarding pass and after a security check - which annoyingly has me obliged to take off my shoes - I find myself back again airside at busgate 14D.

The waiting area is much too small and totally outdated:



When boarding is called, the crowd dashes own the stairs like a bunch of mad bulls, everyone being determined to be the first passenger on the bus. Oh my...

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TXL to AMS
KL1834
B738 PH-BXM
STD-STA 19h15-20h35
Y class
seat 5F


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The bus delivers us at PH-BXM, a new entry for the log:


The mad bulls continue their rage. I don’t let it get to me and strategically position myself at the back on the queue to get some more photos:


This one obviously is parked at the wrong airport!


And this one is about to leave for (probably) some cooler climes:


I climb the stairs, the captain of ‘Kluut’ is in dire need of some fresh air:


Once inside I’m greeted by 2 enthusiastic ladies who comment me nicely on my summery outfit. Yes, even us men appreciate some flattering comments once in a while   And what a contrast in crew attitude with the Brussels Airlines crew! I feel very welcome.

I settle down in 5F and am instantly amazed by the given comfort: nice blue cloth seats and lots of space to stretch out. Just lovely!


The cabin has a cosy feel with the blue tones. There are 2 rows of business class but they remain empty:


A second bus drops off some more passengers and when everyone is settled in the captain comes on the horn announcing that ‘we are ready to go but are still waiting for the pushback truck to release us from this parking spot’.

Some 5 minutes later, the plane shakes some, indicating that the pushback truck has been connected to the nose wheel. After a push back some minutes after schedule, we taxi off via the taxiway on the other side of the terminal, passing by this sign. I guess McDee’s is trying to find new sources of income:


Turning onto the active 2540m runway 26L:



See you again tomorrow!



The views on climbout are again quite nice, overflying the ‘Volkspark Jungfernheide’:


And the ‘Tegeler See’:


We establish cruise:


It has been quite some time ago since I had a seat in the front part of any aircraft cabin. A nice bonus that comes along with that is not only the better legroom at times but also the fact that the food and drinks cart reaches you first.

And hungry I am for sure, not that the catering is overwhelming, but the offerings are good enough for a flight of this duration. ‘Zoet of hartig meneer?’


The nice cover of the current edition of the inflight magazine ‘Holland Herald’:


And of course no photo collection is complete with a winglet shot:


Some 20 minutes from touchdown, the front office comes on once again explaining our arrival route in detail: arrival from the south on the easterly runway, meaning the 3400m ‘Aalsmeerbaan’ or 36R.

With the evening being quite clear, the views are once more very good:
Water in sight, yes this is Holland:


The ironed out and flat Dutch countryside:


Greenhouses used for flower cultivating (methinks...):


Luck has it for me today: once again my calculations prove me right and have me sitting on the ‘right’ right side of the plane. We pass by AMS on the eastern side:


And make a righthand turn for a northerly bound approach and landing:




Some serious wing dipping. I wonder if they were allowed to do a visual approach?




Touchdown a few minutes ahead of schedule at AMS. We vacate the runway quite quickly:


And make our way to gate C10:






The ‘Patrijs’ next door sees mr Captain trying to hold a sneeze  


Being in no hurry at all, I wait as the last person to disembark. I take one more cabin shot...


… and sweettalk the purser into a cockpit visit which is granted by the guys inside:




At about 20h50 I step out of the plane into AMS airport. With my stomach still rumbling I go on a foodhunt. A lot of shops and alikes are already closed but I manage to find a place which even still has some nice hot sandwiches on offer. I seat myself at the window and finish the meal after which I come to the conclusion that I’m in desperate need of some sleep.

I have a booking at the Yotel Hotel, which is located airside but in the non-Schengen zone. After a passport control and a nice chat with the immigration officers - who have no more work apparently, the place is totally deserted - I head out in search of my place for the night. Then I come to realise that I’m actually in a walhalla of widebodies that is AMS non-Schengen. A glance at the FIDS however reveals only 2 more longhauls to depart: KLM to Shanghai and EVA Air to Taipei. I quickly make my way into the E section where the only thing I see is this:


Through the window I manage to see the remains of a lonely T7 taxiing out (must’ve been the Shanghai flight) so now there’s only 1 flight left to depart:


I’m glad that at least I have 1 nice widebody framed! For a moment I get this vision telling me to get up at 5 to go and spot some more but my common sense - yes, I do have that - tells me to just go and find my room.

The fancy looking Yotel:


The guy at the reception is very friendly, I’m given a keycard and a wifi code for the free hotel wifi:


The rooms are small but have everything you need for a good night of sleep:


There even is mood lighting!


on to TXL - take 2

After a mediocre and not so long sleep I find myself back in the non-Schengen zone at around 5h45. The flight to TXL should be boarding at 6h35, so I have some time buffer to go through immigration again. Quite a line there already with lots of pax trickling in from destinations over the world, but as luck may have it once again, a new booth is opened and European passports are invited to cut the line. Thus my anticipated 30 min wait is reduced to a 2 min one, good job!

Through security once again - a painless affair - and I’m in search of some desperately needed eye opening caffeine. The place is quite full and lines at the various food courts are long...


I decide to skip and find myself a nice relaxing seat at a window:


The view outside depresses me a bit, what a contrast with last night’s weather...


I doze off for some minutes and when I wake up, my watch tells me it’s near boarding time! I better get going then. Gate C8 is used for the departure to TXL this morning:




The anticipated and warm welcomed B737 is at the other end of the finger:


AMS is very much an oiled machine: the gate agent presses a button and a whole-lotta-automated message comes out at the gates’ P/A system. I join the queue and make my way into the finger and down to the aircraft.


AMS to TXL
KL1821
B737 PH-BGE
STD-STA 07h05-08h35
Y class
seat 7A


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The guy which is already in the aisle seat in my row is asleep (!) and looks at me from another world when I tell him I have the seat at the window. He doesn’t get up but moves his legs into the aisle, thereby causing a fellow passenger to nearly fall over his feet. I squeeze in and accidently step on his backpack which lays right down at his feet. I nearly fall as well... Thanks man for being so kind to let me in  

Yes, there is a plane standing next to us!


This crew as well is in good spirits and Mr Captain himself does the welcome speech in the front galley. He also mentions the fact that normally we should’ve been flying to BER but since that one is not open yet, today’s flight will end in TXL. Tell me about it   The security show is done from the dropdown monitors:


This one seems prepared for some IFE. If it’ll ever come? Don’t know...


The weather has changed, but the winds apparently haven’t as we make our long way to the ‘Polderbaan’ or 36L for a takeoff in northerly direction.

Just landed at 36R. Where do you come from my friend?


Yes, I know it rains... We hold for a while at the runway threshold and next thing we rocket off into the murky Dutch skies:






I particularly like this one:


The TV monitors switch to the beloved ‘mmm’ (moving map mode) and I go in ‘hm’ for a while (hibernation mode):






A ding dong later, a crew member comes round and hands out our brekkie, a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough:


The comfort on this plane is pretty much comparable with the B738 from last night, there’s ample room to stretch out. I don’t complain  


The remainder of the flight is flown smoothly with no earthly views whatsoever:


Another crew member comes around and asks me to fill out a survey form which I gladly do. I’m quite positive on filling it out as I truly felt ‘at home’ on these KLM flights:


A while later our most informative captain announces the descent into TXL. We basically follow the same path as yesterday:


In the last straight line we get this painful view, in the distance is BER where it all should’ve been happening today...


Here’s another shot of Tempelhof, oh how I wish I had take one of the SN flights a few years ago...


Berlin city once again, probably all you a.netters around were still asleep on my arrival  




And so it happens I make my 2nd appearance at TXL in 2 days, albeit on another carrier:


Some nice engine action going on right next to me after landing on 26R:


The apron looks quite busy this morning with mainly Air Berlin planes:


This one’s for akhmad and RvXKaz, sorry lukeyboy...


We reach our parking spot - the same as yesterday, and probably the same one every other day - and upon disembarking I thank the crew and the captain - who is saying goodbye to the pax from the galley as well - in particular for the nice flight. I hand over the survey form and ask for a visit of his desk to which he kindly agrees:


What follows is a little bit of a longer busride than yesterday and 10 minutes after arrival I’m out in the public again. Since no a.netter can be seen at this ungodly hour, I head inside and treat myself to another breakfast and some nice hot tea and lemon. Next thing I head for another walk to explore my surroundings - something I couldn’t do yesterday due to a lack of time.

This Continited 752 is being readied for a departure to EWR:


F/O making some prep’s:


And there’s PH-BGE once more, the one that brought me in from AMS. It looks like the window cleaners are doing there thing on the inside:


To be history soon?


I send text messages to some a.netters to let them know I’m already at TXL and some time later they all start coming in. We have a general assembly near the ‘Essbahn’ currywurst house and chat some of this and some of that and of course some aviation as well. We decide to enter the viewing deck but since the automated ticket machines don’t work and the woman manning the scanning machine clearly doesn’t bother, we all enter for free. And to be honest, the bag scanning procedure is a laugh as well. I beep on walking through but the woman says ‘no problem, go on’. Fine by me! We chat and spot some with the catch of the day being this Mongolian flight from SVO/ULN:


And one more:


It’s quite windy and chilly on the viewing deck and summer hasn’t arrived yet so after a while we call it a day and head inside for some beers. The remainder of the afternoon is spent at the bar in good spirits. One by one, people start leaving to catch their flights home. Too bad that some of us needed to get to the far away SXF airport. In that aspect, BER would’ve been much more convenient!

on to BRU

I as well have a flight to catch of course, so some 10 mins before boarding time, I make my way into the shack that is terminal D at TXL. The place is rather packed:


Not before too long, the expected Avro comes rolling in and parks right in front of the terminal:




I’m hungry again but the bar in the terminal only has these pretzel thingies on sale - the rest is sold out (!) - so by the lack of anything better I settle for that.

The flight came in on time but still a delay of 10 mins is announced without any reason given:


A few seconds after the delay is announced boarding starts  Wow! Quite some passengers queue up so I expect quite a full flight.


TXL to BRU
SN2586
Avro RJ100 OO-DWE
STD-STA 17h15-18h40
Y class
seat 20A


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I walk down the covered walkway and in the pouring rain to our aircraft. Both the front and back door are available for boarding. Nobody at the back door and everyone standing in the rain at the front door   So of course I head for the back door, I’m seated window last row anyway!

Quote: ‘Under the wing, you know’  




Full house as I expected and my neighbour is the type that needs a lot of space. His arms are on both armrests during the whole flight. Oh how I hate that... Still the amount of space is acceptable, not more:


Here’s a cabin view prior to departure, the lady in front is not very keen on the ‘aircon forte’ blowing in her hair:


The cabin is well used on this one, especially the armrests:


I’m glad to know this plane is insulated:


And it even features some antiquities!


The crew seems a bit stressed as well but later in the flight it turns out they’re actually a nice bunch (of 2 ladies). Departure from the stand is a little late but the captain promises us an ontime arrival in a rainy BRU. We taxi out the same way as we did on KLM yesterday, via the back of the building and on to runway 26L.

Niki takes off before us:


And Air Berlin after us:


Flaps set? Ready, set,...


...go!


Goodbye TXL, I’ll probably never see you again...


The skies are grey and overcast so the visibility diminishes quite fast:




In desperate need for some healthier stuff than beer, I order myself a blueberry smoothie from the BOB, which hits the spot quite nicely:


This is the only view outside that’s worth photographing this evening:


After a flight time of 1h20 mins we touch down on runway 25R in a misty, foggy, rainy, dreary Brussels...


MSS658 and 717Flyer’s easyJet flight has already landed as well and they wait for me in the terminal.Together we disappear in the catacombs of BRU...

conclusion

A very nice weekend with some excellent company and some nice flights thrown in, what more does one need?

SN, well they left me with some mixed feelings: the crews were average to say the least and on the way to TXL there was absolutely no communication from the cockpit whatsoever. Not that it matters much but compared to the lovely and talkative KLM captain giving us his welcome speech in front of all pax is quite a contrast in customer approach. Flights were on time sure enough but the Avro’s are starting to show quite some wear and tear. I’m not a big fan of the type either, the cabin has a somewhat cramped feel, especially in the back. Next time I’ll choose another seat.

KLM was a most positive surprise. Excellent and talkative crews - being Dutch they are more extravert than the Belgians anyway - and great comfort on board their Boeing -700 and -800 series, especially in the forward part of the cabin. Free catering as well, not too much in amount but substantial nevertheless.

And as for the reason of this trip: a    to all attendees of this a.net meet and everyone I have met and re-met in person. It was great and it has to be done again, for sure!

Thanks for reading and comments welcome as always  

Sultanils


In thrust we trust.
47 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3003 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8437 times:

Excellent Nils, nice to see from another point of view!

Great too to meet you and the others!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of € 4:

Quite a popular choice  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I climb the stairs, the captain of ‘Kluut’ is in dire need of some fresh air:

I'm sure I've seen that photo with someone's head in the window. Now, where / who was it?  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Yes, there is a plane standing next to us!

I too had trouble, getting my phone camera to focus on the neighbouring aircraft rather than the water droplets!

Thanks again Sultanils!

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlineSloAir From Slovenia, joined Jul 2010, 339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 8280 times:

Hi Nils,

thank you for staying up all night so we can enjoy a great TR the next day after the meeting   It's been a great weekend for sure and all the trip reports coming in the next days/weeks/months/years will be a nice reminder of it.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Meanwhile the crew has rolled out their goody box cart and when they make a pass, I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of € 4:

No free service on SN?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The waiting area is much too small and totally outdated:

I agree, no wonder they are trying to open a new airport.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I guess McDee’s is trying to find new sources of income:

I guess this picture will be in almost every TR, ah the irony.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The nice cover of the current edition of the inflight magazine ‘Holland Herald’:

Scrolling down the page I thought at first that this was a window view so the person flying 'outside' gave me quite a scare  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Just landed at 36R. Where do you come from my friend?

I wish planes would have the same displays as buses with their destination written on it. It would be so much fun knowing where they have come from or where they are going.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Berlin city once again, probably all you a.netters around were still asleep on my arrival

I am asleep in one of the buildings around the TV tower in your picture  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And as for the reason of this trip: a    to all attendees of this a.net meet and everyone I have met and re-met in person. It was great and it has to be done again, for sure!

It was great meeting everyone and lets hope we do it again!

Blaž



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User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8084 times:

Hello Sultanils

Nice report. I like the way how you planned it. An arrival and departure on the last day in TXL and the same a day later in BER. Too bad it didn't exactly work out that way.

Hope I'll be able to join the next meeting.
Cheers, LXM83


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7902 times:

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And it even features some antiquities!

Good and funny at the same time to see the SABENA-reference showing up.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 3):
Hope I'll be able to join the next meeting.

You mean the next meeting at Berlin (whatever airport code is in use then) ?

Or if your homebase ZRH isn't too boring for you, what about the upcoming meeting at ZRH ZRH-A.NET Meet 2012 -August 25th! See New DOCK-B! (by glidepath73 May 4 2012 in Non Aviation)

Or join us for the meeting at Manchester (MAN) Saturday 30-JUN-2012.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineinfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1454 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7844 times:

Hi Nils,

Wow, I applaud you for posting this report so quickly. Didn't get much sleep then last night?!

KLM once again have done well with their friendly service.


Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The crew however is not all smiles, I’m greeted because ‘I have to be greeted’. I guess they all want to be somewhere else today. No cockpit announcements whatsoever as well on this flight...

I really hate those kind of flights.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of € 4:

You forgot the muffin test!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m on the right and left side and get treated to some fine Berlin city views. We pass some reminiscents of the past:

Great views, aren't they? I also got the right left side.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The mad bulls continue their rage. I don’t let it get to me and strategically position myself at the back on the queue to get some more photos:

Always amusing to watch, isn't it?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Some serious wing dipping. I wonder if they were allowed to do a visual approach?

Love that photo.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I squeeze in and accidently step on his backpack which lays right down at his feet

Accidentally? Are you sure? If that had been me I don't think it would have been an accident  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
round and hands out our brekkie, a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough:

The snack pack looks nice. Sadly my KLM flights haven't been long enough to get one of them.

The dead straight AMS-TXL route on the moving map is pretty cool, not often you see them.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Berlin city once again, probably all you a.netters around were still asleep on my arrival

I was having breakfast  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
To be history soon?

It is sad though, isn't it? As old and dingy as the airport may be, it'll still be sad to see it close.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And as for the reason of this trip: a to all attendees of this a.net meet and everyone I have met and re-met in person. It was great and it has to be done again, for sure!

Hear hear!

Great to have met you & happy flying
Infodesk   



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1290 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7679 times:

Good to read about the meet from your point of view.

Funny how you thought the SN crew were a bit reserved though - on my flight, the captain was certainly a very happy chap!



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7642 times:

Hi Nils!

As usual a great report!
You guys seemed to have a good time in Berlin! Too bad I couldn't be there this time!
Sounds like you had a couple of nice flights on KLM and a couple of okay flights on SN.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And legroom is quite good as well:

I must say that amount of legroom looks quite impressive.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m on the right and left side and get treated to some fine Berlin city views.

Ah yes, I was lucky enough to experience that on my only TXL landing so far. Since I'll do at least one more landing at TXL now that BER is delayed, I hope I'll experience those beautiful views again. I must remember to choose a seat on the left hand side of the aircraft when doing OLCI!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This one obviously is parked at the wrong airport!

Ha, nice one!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m glad that at least I have 1 nice widebody framed!

A beautiful bird, that one.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The rooms are small but have everything you need for a good night of sleep:

What a cool concept, cool rooms. I wish more airports had something like that!

Martin


User currently offlineLuxair747SP From Germany, joined May 2010, 508 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7617 times:

Hi Nils,

Man, you were fast in brining this up!
The service on KL looks quite nice and the legroom is great for an european flight.
SN, well we didn't hear so much positive about them, but id still love to try them.

Finally it was really great meeting you, and I hope we can repeat that!

Thanks a lot for sharing
Cheers
Johannes,

And thanks again for the present  


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

Hey Nils. What a nice weekend it seems you had. How great that you guys could meet again, even if it couldn't be at BER after all. Now we need to organize a meeting in North America so us poor souls can make it too.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Meanwhile the crew has rolled out their goody box cart and when they make a pass, I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of € 4:

What, no ice tea? What's going on?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The rooms are small but have everything you need for a good night of sleep:

How do I dig those rooms! For some reason I really like their ambiance.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A ding dong later, a crew member comes round and hands out our brekkie, a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough:

Those actually don't look all that bad! Thumbs up KLM. I wouldn't have expected anything but a drink for such a short-ish ride.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Another crew member comes around and asks me to fill out a survey form which I gladly do. I’m quite positive on filling it out as I truly felt ‘at home’ on these KLM flights:

You did steal that pen afterwards right?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
His arms are on both armrests during the whole flight. Oh how I hate that...

If I had a penny for every time this happened to me I would be owning my own airline by now. Inconsiderate people are everywhere.

Good stuff as always Nils!

WBodyroga

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User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1703 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7134 times:
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Hi all, many thanks for all your replies so far  

Quoting signol (Reply 1):
Excellent Nils, nice to see from another point of view!

Thanks signol, I’m glad you liked my story as well.

Quoting signol (Reply 1):
I'm sure I've seen that photo with someone's head in the window. Now, where / who was it?

I think I know what you mean there  

Quoting signol (Reply 1):
Great too to meet you and the others!

Yes indeed!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 2):
Hi Nils,

thank you for staying up all night so we can enjoy a great TR the next day after the meeting

Hello Blaz and thanks. Mind you, I did not really stay up all night  

Quoting SloAir (Reply 2):
It's been a great weekend for sure and all the trip reports coming in the next days/weeks/months/years will be a nice reminder of it.

It was excellent and I’m curious to all the reports that will follow!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 2):
No free service on SN?

No, only BOB in the b.light cabin.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 2):
I am asleep in one of the buildings around the TV tower in your picture

I hope the roar of our plane did not wake you up  

Quoting SloAir (Reply 2):
It was great meeting everyone and lets hope we do it again!

Although it is always difficult to talk to every single person, it was really great indeed. And btw, thanks for the small gift, it decorates my refrigerator at home.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 3):
Hello Sultanils

Nice report

Hello LXM83, many thanks!

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 3):
I like the way how you planned it.

Thanks, it was most obvious I (and many others as well) had to do it this way to get the full experience. It wasn’t meant to be 

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 3):
Hope I'll be able to join the next meeting.

I hope so too!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
Hi Nils,

Wow, I applaud you for posting this report so quickly. Didn't get much sleep then last night?!

Hell Hannah, how are you? Ha ha, I didn’t stay up all night, I wrote the report in the daytime  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
KLM once again have done well with their friendly service.

I was totally satisfied and happily surprised as well!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
You forgot the muffin test!

I performed it last time iirc.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
Great views, aren't they?

Yes, really excellent. I wonder how the views on BER must’ve been. Then you would have needed a lefthand side seat.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
Always amusing to watch, isn't it?

Amusing indeed how some people think the aircraft will take off withou them.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
Accidentally? Are you sure?

Very sure. Thinking of it afterwards, maybe I shoudl’ve stept on it deliberately...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
The snack pack looks nice.

It was nice and fresh!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
It is sad though, isn't it?

A bit yes, but I’m sure BER - if it ever opens - will be a tremendous improval over TXL.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 5):
Great to have met you & happy flying

Same here and again many thanks for bringing ‘the goodies’  

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 6):
Good to read about the meet from your point of view.

Thanks James, I’m glad you liked it!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 6):
Funny how you thought the SN crew were a bit reserved though - on my flight, the captain was certainly a very happy chap!

They were not like ‘reserved’ but just more ‘unhappy’. I’ve had good crews on SN in the past though. I just find it sad because I still have this ‘soft spot’ for my home carrier and I really believe they can do better than this.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
Hi Nils!

As usual a great report!

Thanks Martin!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
Sounds like you had a couple of nice flights on KLM and a couple of okay flights on SN.

That’s a good summary, yes.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
that amount of legroom looks quite impressive.

It really was. Being in the front part of the cabin did the trick I guess. I wonder how comfort was more in the back.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
I must remember to choose a seat on the left hand side of the aircraft when doing OLCI!

Yes, but be sure to check how the wind is blowing as well!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
A beautiful bird, that one.

Beautiful and exotic at the same time.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 8):
Hi Nils,

Man, you were fast in brining this up!

Hello Johannes, yes I tried my best to be fast, but signol beat me to it. Not that I mind though...

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 8):
SN, well we didn't hear so much positive about them, but id still love to try them.

They really are quite OK, except for today I was not so happy with them...

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 8):
Finally it was really great meeting you

Same here my friend!

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 8):
And thanks again for the present

Ha ha, no worries. You see it paid off to take part in the competition. And you can thank Hannah as well  

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Hey Nils. What a nice weekend it seems you had. How great that you guys could meet again, even if it couldn't be at BER after all. Now we need to organize a meeting in North America so us poor souls can make it too.

Hello Stojan! The weekend was excellent and I had some really nice flights! I’ll leave it up to you to organize an ORD meet. If price and timing is right, I’ll be there!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
What, no ice tea? What's going on?

No, I fancied even some more sugar this time 

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
How do I dig those rooms! For some reason I really like their ambiance.

They were - let’s say - something different and very contemporary. Perfect for a night in the middle of the airport and very convenient as well.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
I wouldn't have expected anything but a drink for such a short-ish ride.

I knew there would be something, but the offering was beyond my expectations as well.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
You did steal that pen afterwards right?

I politely gave it back, but they insisted on me keeping it. I’m not the ‘liberating’ type  

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 9):
Good stuff as always Nils!

Thanks, I’m very glad you liked it.

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7058 times:
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Hi Nils,

Looks like a decent couple of days flying, food, beer, friends, nice, shame about the BER fiasco and the weather.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The guy which is already in the aisle seat in my row is asleep (!) and looks at me from another world when I tell him I have the seat at the window. He doesn’t get up but moves his legs into the aisle, thereby causing a fellow passenger to nearly fall over his feet. I squeeze in and accidently step on his backpack which lays right down at his feet. I nearly fall as well... Thanks man for being so kind to let me in

- What an arse, really dislike these people.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
a crew member comes round and hands out our brekkie, a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough

- That's quite an upgraded meal compared to the previous evenings meal.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Another crew member comes around and asks me to fill out a survey form which I gladly do. I’m quite positive on filling it out as I truly felt ‘at home’ on these KLM flights:

- Did you get to keep the KLM branded pen?

Hope to make the new opening date in March........

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6764 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 6942 times:

Hi Nils,

great report about your journey(s) to/from TXL. It was a big pleasure to meet you there!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Well, nothing to do about it so the meeting was kinda rescheduled to TXL and TXL alone. As a bonus we now had the opportunity to sample one more currywurst at the famous ‘Essbahn’

I had neither been to the observation deck nor to the "Essbahn" before, so I wasn't really disappointed about ending up at TXL on that day.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
There even is mood lighting!

Nice!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This crew as well is in good spirits and Mr Captain himself does the welcome speech in the front galley. He also mentions the fact that normally we should’ve been flying to BER but since that one is not open yet, today’s flight will end in TXL.

The captain of your AB flight to TXL also made a comment - and he added "good old Tegel".

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A ding dong later, a crew member comes round and hands out our brekkie, a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough:

That looks fine!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This one’s for akhmad and RvXKaz, sorry lukeyboy...

...you could also add me to the list...a QR A320 will show up in my next report.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
To be history soon?

Let's wait and see...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And to be honest, the bag scanning procedure is a laugh as well. I beep on walking through but the woman says ‘no problem, go on’.

And I wasn't allowed to take my small trolley to the deck...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And as for the reason of this trip: a to all attendees of this a.net meet and everyone I have met and re-met in person. It was great and it has to be done again, for sure!

I can only agree!


PH



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User currently offline717Flyer From Finland, joined Jun 2011, 303 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6844 times:

Salut Nils!

How did you manage to think through, write and post such an all-comprehensive review in such a short time? As always I am very impressed. And the eye-catcher image is top notch as well!  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Nowadays, it operates way over capacity.

...and starting this week w-a-a-a-y over capacity!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Shouldn’t this one be flying somewhere over Congo?

Perhaps SN is starting to outsource some of its African flights? That flower (or something resembling) near the nose of the Avro is quite similar to the Star Alliance logo... just thinking...  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The night in AMS was spent in the intra-airport Yotel Hotel (more on that later).

Brownie points to them for coming up with such a clever name!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Meanwhile the crew has rolled out their goody box cart and when they make a pass, I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of € 4:

Good choice! That muffin looks quite inviting...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And this one is about to leave for (probably) some cooler climes:

Probably, but I must say it felt quite weird to notice yesterday (in the middle of the night) that the weather in Helsinki was way warmer than in Brussels! But that must have something with the rain and nasty winds to do as well...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
… and sweettalk the purser into a cockpit visit which is granted by the guys inside:

Very nice - those folks at KLM seem to be quite nice in general as well! I shall be sampling them for the first time in 13 days...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Too bad that some of us needed to get to the far away SXF airport. In that aspect, BER would’ve been much more convenient!

True, on the other hand this probably was my last chance to log a flight to/from SXF so I'm not that unhappy - even though the airport change cut my time quite short at the meet.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Departure from the stand is a little late but the captain promises us an ontime arrival in a rainy BRU.

But we got an early arrival to BRU, how about that?  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
MSS658 and 717Flyer’s easyJet flight has already landed as well and they wait for me in the terminal.Together we disappear in the catacombs of BRU...

I must say I wonder if I ever would have found the way out of the terminal without your guidance? At least I made my flight the next day after some detours around the terminal...  

Finally, a big    for the report & meeting you in person (both officially at TXL plus our bonus meet at BRU) - let's do it again soon!

Keep flying high!
717Flyer


User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1703 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6783 times:
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Hi everbody, thanks for your additional replies! Here goes:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
Hi Nils,

Looks like a decent couple of days flying, food, beer, friends

Hi Mark, thanks for replying and yes, you know what a.net meets are like  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
shame about the BER fiasco and the weather.

BER not opening is really a fiasco - but not so for me - and the weather at Berlin actually was quite OK, no rain at least during the meet.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
That's quite an upgraded meal compared to the previous evenings meal.

You mean compared to the meal on SN? That was a BOB muffin/coke combo.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
Did you get to keep the KLM branded pen?

Yes, I returned it together with the survey but the F/A told me to keep the pen. I’m a sissy, I know  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
Hope to make the new opening date in March

If it ever opens by then...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
Hi Nils,

great report about your journey(s) to/from TXL. It was a big pleasure to meet you there!

Hello PH, thanks for reading and replying. The pleasure was mine  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
I had neither been to the observation deck nor to the "Essbahn" before, so I wasn't really disappointed about ending up at TXL on that day.

Me neither so not all was lost indeed. Any idea if BER has a viewing deck as well?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
and he added "good old Tegel"

Ha ha, must’ve been a nostalgic guy, that captain!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
a QR A320 will show up in my next report.

Will it? You make me curious.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
And I wasn't allowed to take my small trolley to the deck...

Yeah - I heard about that. That’s what kept you so long, you had to get rid of your bag first. Stupid regulations...

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
Salut Nils!

Bonjour 717Flyer! Ca va?

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
How did you manage to think through, write and post such an all-comprehensive review in such a short time? As always I am very impressed. And the eye-catcher image is top notch as well!

When I set my mind to it, I can achieve great things  Thank you for your flattering words.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
Perhaps SN is starting to outsource some of its African flights? That flower (or something resembling) near the nose of the Avro is quite similar to the Star Alliance logo... just thinking...

Don’t you know this is a plane that belongs to Korongo Airlines, an SN subsidiary operating flights in Congo as of some months ago. Perhaps it’s here for maintenance or a new addition to the fleet, I don’t know...

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
That muffin looks quite inviting...

It was rather good I must say!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
But that must have something with the rain and nasty winds to do as well...

The weather at Brussels was totally not June-like, you’re right. Come back next time and I promise you burning UV rays a plenty!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
I shall be sampling them for the first time in 13 days...

Are you? Tell me more...

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
even though the airport change cut my time quite short at the meet.

Your meet was more like a touch-and-go  

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
But we got an early arrival to BRU, how about that?

You flew the better airline? You had Marc with you on board? Don’t know...

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 13):
let's do it again soon!

Deal!

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlinedkdaviator From Denmark, joined Jun 2009, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6628 times:

Hi,

That is an interesting account there of your trip to attend the meet in Berlin (and the side trip to AMS). It seems like you had some nice flights (though it seems the ones on KLM were a little better, or at least a little more personable).

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Hello Düsseldorf airport!

Nice view of DUS there, and it was nice of the clouds to part just enough to get the picture.  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
like a bunch of mad bulls, everyone being determined to be the first passenger on the bus. Oh my...

heehee, I know the feeling, and have certainly seen similar "herds" of passengers.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
near the ‘Essbahn’ currywurst house

I have to give that one a try sometime.  

Nice report, and nice to see it up so quickly!

David



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User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 426 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6625 times:

Hi Nils !
super nice trip to BER ... but you missed dinner ?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Thanks to my ever trustful taxi and father

hehehe the cheapest way the best way ...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of %u20AC 4:

this is honest price and young Finn is probably very happy ...
nice work thanks ...stipica  



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User currently offlineRvXKaz From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 195 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6610 times:

Hi Nils,

Nice to see your TR again and thanks for the information on exactly what happened during the a.net meet fiasco! As you know, it was quite hard for me to follow since I am half way round the globe   but from what you've summarised, I now have a clear picture of what happened!

I must say, the new airport is off to such a great start: to think it screwed so many hopeful a.netters, of all people!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
No cockpit announcements whatsoever as well on this flight...

a little information would have been nice. I guess some pilots just want to concentrate on their flying!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The seat pocket features the usual contents:

I find the seat pocket rather unique!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I decide to once again have the muffin/soft drink combo for the grand total of %u20AC 4:

After my Euro trip, I can see that this isn't too pricey!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I%u2019m on the right and left side and get treated to some fine Berlin city views. We pass some reminiscents of the past

Really intriguing buildings!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
When boarding is called, the crowd dashes own the stairs like a bunch of mad bulls, everyone being determined to be the first passenger on the bus. Oh my...

Oh man! I encountered that in one of my flights too! But I loved the way you've described the situation, well, I guess they were in Cattle class after all!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And what a contrast in crew attitude with the Brussels Airlines crew! I feel very welcome.

Thats very nice to hear and what a pleasant start!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And the %u2018Tegeler See%u2019:

Beautiful view!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And of course no photo collection is complete with a winglet shot:

Again, beautiful view!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The fancy looking Yotel:

Looks very chic indeed, especially the interior! I would love to try staying there!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Thanks man for being so kind to let me in

haha, at least you've got your window seat. Hopefully he was a better seatmate after that rough start!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough:

mmm! Looks like a nice snack considering its such a short flight! Lovely touch from KLM!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
This one%u2019s for akhmad and RvXKaz

Aww, thank you!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
We chat and spot some with the catch of the day being this Mongolian flight from SVO/ULN:

Wow, what a magnificiant beauty! I just love the beautiful colors! Interesting that Mongolian flies to TXL via SVO. Any idea why? And does it have 5th freedom rights?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And one more:

I just had to comment on its beauty twice because its livery is truly beautiful!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Nobody at the back door and everyone standing in the rain at the front door So of course I head for the back door, I’m seated window last row anyway!

haha! Only a true plane enthusiast would break out of that herd mentality!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
the lady in front is not very keen on the ‘aircon forte’ blowing in her hair:

I can just imagine her headful of luscious curls!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Goodbye TXL, I’ll probably never see you again...

So long, TXL!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I order myself a blueberry smoothie from the BOB, which hits the spot quite nicely:

mmm.. looks like a real treat!

Thanks very much Nils for this interesting TR! No BER but an upsized double landing into and taking off from TXL for you by two different carriers, quite a treat I must say. Nice that you scored some visits to the cockpit as usual (you should teach me how you do it one of these days!).

As usual, I love the pictures and the commentary. Nice preview of AMS and TXL for someone is so unfamiliar with Euro airports.

Anyhow, no BER this time means there will always be a next! Will wait for your future coverage of the airport that got away!

Bests,
Gavin



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User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6563 times:

Hi Nils,

You are certainly keeping up with your reputation as the fastest guy on the block. Good to read another account of the Berlin meet. This one gave me plenty of deja-vu feelings as I flew KLM to Berlin that Saturday morning...

Good to see also something about SN, my first flight with them since 2004 is coming up next week, on this very same route you covered...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
As a bonus we now had the opportunity to sample one more currywurst at the famous ‘Essbahn’  

How did that and Currywurst become so famous over here? Maybe I had something to do with that...  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And the usual occupants at the T gates acknowledge my presence as well:

Nice to see an SN Brussels A330, kinda looking forward to my flight with one in less than two weeks.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
With OO-SSV having the honors today I’ll have a new entry in the log as well:

And an Airbus, bugger that. I'm still a bit irked over that equipment change, you know?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And make our way to the expected 3211m runway 07R, passing BRU’s petrol station on the way. There’s no sign with petrol prices posted luckily:

You know why? Because there's no tax on the petrol the prices would be outrageously low and piss people off...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
After which we taxi to a parking spot at the D-terminal - or rather D-hangar...

You've never been to the AB terminal (C), have you?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
No doubt about the identity of this plane:

Nice shot with the reflections!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And this one is about to leave for (probably) some cooler climes:

Wetter at least, that's for sure! That was a very dreary weekend in Finland, cold, gray and wet!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I climb the stairs, the captain of ‘Kluut’ is in dire need of some fresh air:

Maybe the FO was passing some gas?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And hungry I am for sure, not that the catering is overwhelming, but the offerings are good enough for a flight of this duration. ‘Zoet of hartig meneer?’

Hey, exactly the same spread I had on my flight into TXL a few hours earlier - AJ and the salty thingies! I love these canned juices.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Luck has it for me today: once again my calculations prove me right and have me sitting on the ‘right’ right side of the plane. We pass by AMS on the eastern side:

Nice. We had the very same approach into the very same runway that morning and I was sitting on the very same side too!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The fancy looking Yotel:

Hmm, you picked this for the name, didn't you - "Yotel Hotel" just sounds like one of your puns, doesn't it?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The rooms are small but have everything you need for a good night of sleep:

Looks like a ship's cabin or something. But maybe I should try out one of these soon - might need to spend the night at Gatwick or Schiphol in the future so that would be perfect. How much did you pay for your room? Is there an ensuite toilet and shower?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I doze off for some minutes and when I wake up, my watch tells me it’s near boarding time! I better get going then. Gate C8 is used for the departure to TXL this morning:

The same gate was used for my flight the previous morning too!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Just landed at 36R. Where do you come from my friend?

Asia, can't you read?  
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A ding dong later, a crew member comes round and hands out our brekkie, a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough:

Wow, nice to see them offering a more substantial breakfast service on the early bird flight. This looks almost the same as my HEL-AMS flight, although the offerings are a bit different - I had egg salad in the sandwich and the sweet cake bun thingy was different (and squished flat).

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Another crew member comes around and asks me to fill out a survey form which I gladly do. I’m quite positive on filling it out as I truly felt ‘at home’ on these KLM flights:

I hope you nicked the pen - these are a great way of getting hold of some airline branded pens!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Berlin city once again, probably all you a.netters around were still asleep on my arrival  

Yes, I was asleep onboard D-AIBB somewhere over the Baltic Sea!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
F/O making some prep’s:

Maybe the captain broke the wind this time - you know it is quite common.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m hungry again but the bar in the terminal only has these pretzel thingies on sale - the rest is sold out (!) - so by the lack of anything better I settle for that.

They had decided to empty all their stocks as to the closing of the airport I guess...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Goodbye TXL, I’ll probably never see you again...

Never say never! I'll be there again in a week...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
In desperate need for some healthier stuff than beer, I order myself a blueberry smoothie from the BOB, which hits the spot quite nicely:

Come on! Beer is healthy. It makes you happy and nothing's better for you thank feeling good and happy.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
After a flight time of 1h20 mins we touch down on runway 25R in a misty, foggy, rainy, dreary Brussels...

Ouch, that looks very bad. But luckily the weather in a week's time when I'll be doing the same will be much better, thirty degrees, sunshine and scantily clad babes on the streets, right?

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
And as for the reason of this trip: a    to all attendees of this a.net meet and everyone I have met and re-met in person. It was great and it has to be done again, for sure!

Thanks! A shame we missed each other, but I heard you are canceling your holiday trip next week just so that you could come and see me in Brussels?  


User currently offlinealexeu From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6498 times:

Hi,

Nice report and pics. Although you didn´t get BER on the list, there will be plenty of time for that...I guess landing in TXL will always be more interesting.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I have a booking at the Yotel Hotel, which is located airside but in the non-Schengen zone. After a passport control and a nice chat with the immigration officers - who have no more work apparently, the place is totally deserted - I head out in search of my place for the night

So it is legal to cross the Schengen border at airports even though your flight is non-Schengen? Can anyone just hop to non-Schengen termina to e.g. take pics of aircraft (assuming they have passport and boarding pass, the Schengen one)?

Cheers,
Alex


User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1060 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6281 times:

Hi Nils!

First I'll have to say that your cover photo caught my eye immediately, what a creative idea! Anyway just a simple question, any idea why OO-SSV has 2 overwing exits instead of 1 which I'll assume the normal A319s has? Could it be due to the seating configuration since I notice that U2 also has 2 overwing exits per side for their A319s?

The muffin and soft drink combo looks value for money in the air but definitely not on the ground, even if it's S$4! City views of Berlin looks wonderful! SN's livery fits the A319 like a coat too.  

Yotel hotel looks pretty modern and chic, I fell in love with the design the first time I saw it. I'll certainly schedule a night in that hotel when I visit AMS!

Interesting that you caught the OM 763 in TXL. I'm sure fellow a.netter yapple would be very interested in that.  

I love underwing shots too! It's a very nice underwing shot you took of OO-DWE and sadly we do not have AVRO jets in this part of the world. Not sure if any of them even exists in Asia! Interesting that Sabena branded items still exist though.

Thanks for sharing!

Regards,
Daniel



One way I will fly around the world!
User currently offlineSultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1703 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6248 times:
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Hell once again and many thanks to comment on my report.

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 15):
Hi,

That is an interesting account there of your trip to attend the meet in Berlin (and the side trip to AMS).

Hi there David, thanks for your reply and your kind words  

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 15):
It seems like you had some nice flights (though it seems the ones on KLM were a little better, or at least a little more personable).

You could well summarize it that way, yes.

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 15):
I have to give that one a try sometime.

If you’re fond of greasy, spicy and high caloried food, then this currywurst will most certainly fulfill your needs lol!

Quoting stipica (Reply 16):
Hi Nils !
super nice trip to BER ... but you missed dinner ?

Hello Stipica, thanks for comenting. I had my dinner in AMS going by the motto: it is always better to do 4 flights than to do only 2 flights  

Quoting stipica (Reply 16):
hehehe the cheapest way the best way ...

Retirees have lots of time... or no time at all!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Hi Nils,

Nice to see your TR again

Hello Gavin, thanks my friend for your lengthy comment, it is greatly appreciated!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
As you know, it was quite hard for me to follow since I am half way round the globe

I heard something along the lines. I hope to see some more videos of you soon in that aspect.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
to think it screwed so many hopeful a.netters, of all people!

For me it isn’t so bad, but all the official instances that are involved in this shameful matter should be pointed at.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
I find the seat pocket rather unique!

For you it most probably is. I do like the seats where the seat pocket is on top, it gives you somewhat more legroom.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Really intriguing buildings!

Leftovers from the old DDR era. I don’t think they are nice buildings to be housed in.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
I guess they were in Cattle class after all!

Me too, but I didn’t behave like cattle. I stand proud as a decent citizen 

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Hopefully he was a better seatmate after that rough start!

Well, he passed out again as soon as I was in my seat. And only woke up on arrival at the parking stand.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Looks like a nice snack considering its such a short flight!

It was but I more or less expected something substantial after reading some other KLM mainline reports. Totally satisfied there!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Aww, thank you!

No worries  

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Interesting that Mongolian flies to TXL via SVO. Any idea why? And does it have 5th freedom rights?

I haven’t a clue, I should look it up. Someone told me that this route used to be flown by a B738 with a fuel stop in SVO. And now it is a 763 but it also stops at SVO. It is quite an intriguing flight nevertheless.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Nice that you scored some visits to the cockpit as usual (you should teach me how you do it one of these days!).

Get off as the last passenger and ask for permission to visit the cockpit, that’s all. Works like a charm most of the time.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 17):
Anyhow, no BER this time means there will always be a next! Will wait for your future coverage of the airport that got away!

A new date is scheduled for 17th March 2013. Let’s see if I can attend to that then!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Hi Nils,

You are certainly keeping up with your reputation as the fastest guy on the block.

Hello Petteri, thanks for extensive commenting, me likes! Actually I wasn’t the fastest this time, signol was...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Good to see also something about SN, my first flight with them since 2004 is coming up next week, on this very same route you covered...

I do have a soft spot for SN, but they seem to be somewhat on the inconsistent side unfortunately. Anyway, I’m curious as to your experience with the carrier.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Nice to see an SN Brussels A330, kinda looking forward to my flight with one in less than two weeks.

Hmm, maybe don’t expect too much here. Gabriel did that as well I guess and was quite disappointed. The JFK flight is their flag ship route however, so I hope they can make it happen.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
And an Airbus, bugger that. I'm still a bit irked over that equipment change, you know?

Are you scheduled on the Jumbolino then? Go and check data.flight24.com and see if there’s a logic in scheduling of your flight. Luck might have it there’s an equipment change. The ‘box of chocolates’ theory is also aplicable on SN at times you know...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
You've never been to the AB terminal (C), have you?

I have walked through on Sun, yes. That is a big shack, the D terminal is asmall shack.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
I love these canned juices.

Me too, that’s why I ordered one.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Nice. We had the very same approach into the very same runway that morning and I was sitting on the very same side too!

And I did it twice in as many days, just lovely. Going to BER, you should be on the other side most probably then.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Hmm, you picked this for the name, didn't you - "Yotel Hotel" just sounds like one of your puns, doesn't it?

Basically I think it’s a stupid name.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Looks like a ship's cabin or something. But maybe I should try out one of these soon - might need to spend the night at Gatwick or Schiphol in the future so that would be perfect. How much did you pay for your room? Is there an ensuite toilet and shower?

It is indeed some sort of ship’s cabin. I paid € 76, free wifi but no brekkie. Shower and toilet are ensuite.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
I hope you nicked the pen

Everyone keeps on asking me that. No, I’m a decent man: I returned it politely but they said I could keep it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Never say never! I'll be there again in a week...

You’re really hard core 

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Come on! Beer is healthy.

What doctor came up with that kind of bollocks   Or did you conclude that yourself.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
But luckily the weather in a week's time when I'll be doing the same will be much better, thirty degrees, sunshine and scantily clad babes on the streets, right?

At the moment it doesn’t look too promising. Have a look at the official Belgian weather forecasting institute site thingy: www.meteo.be and judge for yourself if you can have a walk through the dangerous city of Brussels in your slippers and boxers.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 18):
Thanks! A shame we missed each other, but I heard you are canceling your holiday trip next week just so that you could come and see me in Brussels?

A shame, yes. And no, I’m not canceling my holiday and quality family time trip to the Belgian coast. I’ll see if I can force something but don’t place your bets my friend  

Quoting alexeu (Reply 19):
Hi,

Nice report and pics.

Hello alexeu, thanks for your reply.

Quoting alexeu (Reply 19):
I guess landing in TXL will always be more interesting.

Why is that?

Quoting alexeu (Reply 19):
So it is legal to cross the Schengen border at airports even though your flight is non-Schengen? Can anyone just hop to non-Schengen termina to e.g. take pics of aircraft (assuming they have passport and boarding pass, the Schengen one)?

You have to show proof of booking the Yotel Hotel and proof of booking (= boarding pass) of onward travel through AMS the next day. Otherwise it’s no Yotel for you. I wasn’t asked for a boarding pass so I guess you can go non-Schengen to spot but at least you have to get airside at AMS at some point.

Quoting initious (Reply 20):
Hi Nils!

Hello Daniel, how are you?

Quoting initious (Reply 20):
what a creative idea!

Thanks. I was just lucky with the LH plane bearing the ‘Schönefeld’ name.

Quoting initious (Reply 20):
Anyway just a simple question, any idea why OO-SSV has 2 overwing exits instead of 1 which I'll assume the normal A319s has? Could it be due to the seating configuration since I notice that U2 also has 2 overwing exits per side for their A319s?

I really don’t know. I’m not so much into cabin an plane configs. Your best bet is to ask PlaneHunter maybe, he knows a thing or 2 about these things methinks.

Quoting initious (Reply 20):
Interesting that you caught the OM 763 in TXL. I'm sure fellow a.netter yapple would be very interested in that.

I bet he is, it is an exotic flight in all aspects.

Quoting initious (Reply 20):
and sadly we do not have AVRO jets in this part of the world. Not sure if any of them even exists in Asia!

Can’t tell. I certainly haven’t seen one on a.net or in Asia itself when I was there (a long time ago).

Quoting initious (Reply 20):
Interesting that Sabena branded items still exist though.

Yes, they still do. Actually these Avro’s come from Sabena subsidiary DAT. Those were the days...

Sultanils



In thrust we trust.
User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 684 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6226 times:

Hi Nils,

congrats for bringing out the first report of the Berlin meet. While you were writing I was still on my (admittedly rather long and not exactly direct) way home   ...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I’m on the right and left side and get treated to some fine Berlin city views.

Lucky you and some nice pictures. I was of course sitting on the wrong side on my approach, had some nice views over the countryside and the suburbs, oh well.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
After which we taxi to a parking spot at the D-terminal - or rather D-hangar...

Trust me, the C-gates are even worse.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
When boarding is called, the crowd dashes own the stairs like a bunch of mad bulls, everyone being determined to be the first passenger on the bus.

Always the same, don't really understand that. Must be some irrational fear of being left behind or something.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
I climb the stairs, the captain of ‘Kluut’ is in dire need of some fresh air:

Are you sure it wasn't Suryo who flew this plane   ...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
The rooms are small but have everything you need for a good night of sleep:

Looks somewhat nice, a little like a sleeper cabin in a train or on a ferry. Interesting that it is in the Non-Schengen zone so you have to go through passport control.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
A ding dong later, a crew member comes round and hands out our brekkie, a brown sandwich with some thinly sliced chicken filet and some sweet cake-like round well... thingy. All quite tasty and filling enough:

Not bad, at least something like a breakfast, certainly better than the usual sweet or savoury thing.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
Berlin city once again, probably all you a.netters around were still asleep on my arrival

Sure   ...

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
His arms are on both armrests during the whole flight. Oh how I hate that... Still the amount of space is acceptable, not more:

I hate that as well. But at least SN has the 2-3 seating configuration. Imagine how it would have been with 3-3. Just experienced that on Malmö Aviation on a full flight, definitely cramped.

CaptainRed


User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1862 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6053 times:
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Hi Nils, thanks for sharing! Nice to see some pictures of the Yotel at AMS and of the SN Avrojet   PHBXM is also in my log.

It's a shame I couldn't make it out to Berlin, but I hope to see you again at the BRU meet.

Regards,

Martijn



Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlineParton87 From Sweden, joined Sep 2008, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6037 times:

Hello Nils!

Thanks for the great story. You´re quick as always  It was really nice to meet you again Nils, hope it not will be to long until next time!

That hotel in AMS looks rather cool. Looks like a good place when you have a early morning flight out of AMS!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
‘at home’ on these KLM flights:

I was given one of these at my last KLM flight too. Only positive things from me too 
Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
All quite tasty and filling enough:

Looks nice. I hope I get these sandwich service on my BUD flight next week. I had only get the "snack" service on my KLM flights before.

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
around were still asleep on my arriva

Don´t know about the others, but I sleept like a baby at that time hahaha!

Quoting Sultanils (Thread starter):
the expected Avro comes rolling in and parks right in front of the terminal:

I´m know you don´t like them too much but the´re really cute I think  Will missed them when they´re all gone and the SN livery looks really good on them I think!

Thanks again for the story Nils!

Greetings
Robert


25 Post contains images OA260 : Hey Nils . Congrats on your quick posting of the TR Great to read about your flights and experience. I love the SN A330 pic Also the intro pic is good
26 Post contains images airbuseric : Hi Nils! time to reply now... great report and good to see the Belgiums are jumping over to the Dutch KLM Or is it French? Hmm.. dunno anymore. At lea
27 Post contains images akhmad : Haai Nils, my friend, First of all, I want to tell you how delighted I was to finally meet you in person. I was really enjoying our times together. Ve
28 CARST : Good TR. Too bad we all had bad luck with the weather on Sunday. Rain always messes up the TRs and the personal experience, because looking through th
29 Post contains images Tomskii : Nice TR Nils! I live to the right of Leuven near the Sportoase building. (That round building in the north-eastern part of Leuven just outside the rin
30 Post contains images LH4116 : Hoi Nils, nice to see your coverage of the Berlin meet! Hmm, how comes Belgium and the central african countries have such a strong relation to eachot
31 The777Man : Hi Nils ! Very nice report with nice pictures, especially the first one! That's a lot of flights in two days ! Good to see that both KL and SN were ok
32 Post contains images sultanils : Hello everyone, thanks for your comments! Hello CaptainRed! Actually I was not the first, signol beat me in some minutes to that. Quite sure, I don’
33 Post contains images flightsimboy : Hello Nils, Eric's trip report alerted me about this BER spotting met, and I apologise I did not read this one before. A great read now, from a differ
34 airbuseric : Nils, regarding BR; They plan to enter Star Alliance, which might mean they move to FRA (they already serve VIE too). Aside from that they did almost
35 Post contains images sultanils : Hi once again and thanks to those who left a reply. Here goes: Haai terug Suryo, I’m glad as well to finally have met you, the honours were mine Tha
36 Post contains images CaptainRed : Oops, I have just realized it as well. So I take back my congratulations and all the glory and honour goes to signol But second place is not bad eith
37 Post contains images roberts87 : Great report Nils! Nice idea to squeeze in a TXL-AMS r/t. Looking at your flight schedule I was down there when you flew over! Great view of Berlin as
38 Post contains images rogerbcn : Hola Nils! A great report on the non-BER meeting. It was great to meet you in shirt first, on Saturday afternoon, and seeing that you have a true A.ne
39 Post contains images AYA333 : Thanks for a nice report As I have never experienced this Brussels branch of LH (and have read all TRs poorly, it seems), I was sort of surprised to f
40 MSS658 : Hi Nils Great report, It was nice meeting you again in TXL and BRU. Just to bad I had to leave earlier to SXF. I can only agree about your statements
41 Post contains images sultanils : Hi there evryone, thanks for some more commentary Thanks Robert. I'm glad to now have some proper KLM flights in my log. As an AMS resident, I'm sure
42 Post contains images roberts87 : I sure do... Feel free to contact me if you want some great tips if you another visit to AMS
43 Post contains images adamspotter : Hi Nils, Great report as usual, an enjoyable read. Too bad I couldn't make it to the meet, maybe next time Nice to see the Yotel Hotel in a report too
44 FLIEGER67 : Hi, Nils, good work. I´ve finally found the time to start catching up with all the latest stories. Definitely well done here. Good choice, you know.
45 Post contains images sultanils : Hello! Thanks Robert, sure will do! Hello Brendan, thanks for reading and replying! And indeed I hope to see you on the next meet somewhere in Europe
46 Post contains images gabrielchew : Nice to finally get round to reading this Nils! That's an interesting way to get to Berlin! You got the same plane on the same route just a few hours
47 Post contains images sultanils : Hi Gab, thanks for reading and replying. It was, that's why I chose it Yes indeed although I'd rather have had OO-SSC, the *A A319... Sultanils
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