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DTW-EVV 6-9-12 Delta (9E) CRJ-200  
User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6127 posts, RR: 29
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On Saturday June 9th 2012 I flew from Detroit (DTW) to Evansville, Indiana (EVV) on a Delta Connection (Pinnacle Airlines; 9E) CRJ-200. The reason for my trip was to go to the 2012 Lawn & Garden Tractor Extravaganza and the Southern Indiana Antique Machinery show. The shows are usually separate, but the garden tractor event was in Evansville this year and will be again next year. The show ran from June 8th to June 10th, but I had to attend my school’s (my employer) graduation on the 8th so I flew down on the morning of the 9th. My friend, Zac, had driven down earlier with his collection of vintage Hahn lawn and garden equipment and took my collection too.

I arrived at DTW about 7:10 am, on the 9th and headed to security, which had rather long lines for a Saturday morning, but the lines moved quickly. I didn’t have a bag to check because Zac already brought my stuff down to Evansville. I was hungry so I stopped at the National Coney Island for coffee, French Toast, and sausage.

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I have had breakfast at the National before and find it a good place for eats at DTW. After eating I headed off to my gate on the B Concourse.



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I descended the long escalator to the tunnel that leads to B and C Concourses.


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The Tunnel is kind of cool, as the light show is rather impressive.

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After a walk through the tunnel it was time to ascend to B Concourse.

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Not much was going on over at the gate and I wasn’t expecting much excitement.
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The 9E CRJ-200 was ready to go and we had both pilots, but we were waiting on an FA. The FA arrived about ten minutes before scheduled departure, but with only 20 or passengers boarding would not take long.

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It had been a long time since I flew on an RJ of any type, but the CRJ-200 was a cramped as I remembered it.

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I had an exit row seat so it wasn’t so bad after all.

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We pushed back about two minutes behind schedule and while we were taxiing I spotted this KC-135. I don’t see military jets at DTW too often and seeing a 707 of any kind is very cool.

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After a long taxi we were airborne so I read the latest addition of Airways Magazine.

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After a while the FA served drinks and snacks. I wanted a coffee, but he said the coffee pot was “inop”. I had the scene from Airplane 2 pop into my head where the FA says they are out of coffee and everyone goes nuts.

I settled for some water and they had those good dog biscuit shaped Delta cookies I like.

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After an hour of flying we landed at EVV right on schedule.

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There are no jet bridges at EVV and there was very little traffic on the ramp, only an American Eagle RJ was to be seen.

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Apparently EVV will soon be getting jet bridges.

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It looks like EVV provides umbrella for passenegers when it rains.

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The EVV terminal was small and not much was going on in the gate area.

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The terminal had a gift shop and coffee shop. There was also a bar, but at 9:30am they were not open yet. The airport is small, but clean, and new terminal was built in 1988.

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The baggage claim was busy with people from the American Eagle flight and my flight from DTW.

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I headed outside where Zac was waiting to pick me up and take me to the show grounds, the Vanderburgh 4-H club grounds, in Darmstadt.

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We pulled up to our Hahn display and welcomed by our friend Kevin. Zac and I went to Southern Illinois University together and now we both live in suburban Detroit (about an hour from each other) and Kevin, who is Zac’s friend from high school, lives in Evansville.

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You are probably wondering what is the deal with Hahn…. Hahn was a company that was from Evansville that made a lot of neat stuff and we collect it. Hahn began making agricultural sprayers in 1948 and then moved into garden tillers. In 1961 they purchased the Eclipse Lawn Mower Company, in Prophetstown, Illinois and began making lawnmowers under the Hahn-Eclipse name, in Evansville. Hahn bought Gardex’s (Michigan City, Indiana, snow blower division in 1965 and produced snow blowers under the Snow Giant name. Hahn eventually bought West Point Products, from Pennsylvania, in 1970 and expanded into golf course equipment. Hahn sold their turf equipment in the UK and parts of Europe through and agreement with Ransomes, Sims & Jefferies and Ransomes sold their equipment in the USA through Hahn. This agreement lasted until Ransomes was sold to Textron.

Hahn sold their consumer products division to Gravely in 1979, who continued to build things under the Hahn name for a few years. Hahn continued to make ag and turf equipment until 1993, when they were bought by Toro and became the Hahn Equipment Company, a Division of Toro. Toro continued to make sprayers in Evansville until 2002, when they shut down the division and closed the Evansville Plant.


A full report from a December 2011 trip to the plant, with photos, can be seen on this small engine collectors website:

http://rucenterprises.com/asecc/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=409

Between Zac, Kevin and I we probably have the largest collection of Hahn consumer products in the world and definitely the largest collection Hahn manuals, literature and engineering drawings.

Kevin brought his camper so we had a nice place to sleep, with cold air conditioning.

The show was fantastic and our Hahn display drew a lot of attention, including from Earl, a 37 year Hahn employee (1960-1997).


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The show featured a lot of large farm tractors and I would loved to have shown mine too, but we didn’t have room on the trailer for it.
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There were also plenty of neat old Hit n’ Miss and other antique engines

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Several steam tractors and engines
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Lots of neat tractor driven equipment

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Plenty of neat old car/trucks

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and some not so old interesting cars.

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There were tractors of all sizes

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The Lawn and Garden Tractor extravaganza was going on too, which is what we came for.

There were all kinds of vintage lawn and garden equipment on display.

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Zac, Kevin and I were interviewed for a feature in Lawn & Garden Tractor Magazine, which I can’t wait to see in a few months.

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Kate, the managing editor of L&GT Magazine took this great video us running all of our stuff at once and posted it on YouTube.

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Before long it was time to go to the garden tractor rodeo. My mom and dad drove over from St. Louis and mom wanted to check out the event. My dad just sat in Kevin’s camper and read the paper and then watched over our display.

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I began my pre rodeo preparations by drinking a beer.

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Zac didn’t want to compete so he sat and watched on his 1975 Hahn LTD 500.

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Kevin and I both competed with our Hahn-Eclipse GT-700 tractors. Mine is a 1969 and is from the first series of the GT-700 production run, with a 7 horsepower Briggs & Stratton engine. Kevin’s is a 1972 model with a 8hp B&S under the hood.
There were several events at the garden tractor rodeo

A slow race, which is where the last person to cross the finish line wins. The rules state that if you touch the brake or clutch you are disqualified.

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There was also a tractor balance, which I ruled at.

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Tractor putt-putt golf, which I sucked at, but this guy was fantastic.

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The “chain in the box”. It took me six minutes to do it, but Kevin, seen here, did it in just over three minutes. The goal is to get 8 feet of chain in a one square foot box. The game involves a lot of back and forth movement and then dropping the chain clevis into the box at the end.

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There was also a log pull through cones (which I really sucked at), a limbo, and Kevin and I dragged raced. I slipped off the line, but passed him further down the track.

That evening we headed to a place outside of Evansville, called the Hornets Nest, which was a great bar and grill.

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We drank cheap beer

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Zac wanted Hamm's too, but they sold out.

The bar’s restroom only had a urinal, which was pitiful, but the restaurant part had a regular toilet in the men’s room.

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After dinner we headed back to show grounds and drank beer. We drove around the show grounds and talked/drank beer with a lot of different people about old engines. This guy showed us his steam engine that was a stoker engine from the old Sterling Brewery in Evansville. The Sterling brewery closed in 1997 and that is a story for a different day.

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About 11pm Kevin and I fired up our tillers and tilled up some ground.

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I hit the sack around 12am, but Zac and Kevin stayed up with some people until 2:30am or so. I probably drank 15 beers and had been up early so I was tired and slept like a rock. I think Kevin and Zac had more beer than I did.

Sunday morning came early and around 7am I got up and took a shower and we headed down to get a hearty breakfast. We were all in need of a real "hog slopper".

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We needed gas for our Hahn GT-700s so we headed over to the gas station to get gas and check the oil.

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We also stopped by the grocery store. Zac’s GT-700 is a 1976 model and has a hydrostatic drive system.

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Then we went shopping at the onsite fleamarket.

Sunday morning we also took a spin on a 1960s Hahn Hi-Boy sprayer, with some Hi-Boy buffs. This particular sprayer had the spray tank removed and a seat put in its place.

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We entertained visitors at our display for a while and by noon it was time to start the teardown. We stored loaded Kevin and Zac’s trucks with literature and tables to store at Zac’s mom’s barn (in Evansville) until next year. Zac also is storing his LTD-500 there until the fall too. We finally finished loading the trailer at 4pm and we were off.

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Kevin loaded his stuff into his truck and left towing away his camper too. We had 15 items on the trailer and three in the bed of the truck.

We drove to Anderson, Indiana where we stayed the night at the Holiday Inn Express. Zac burned some of his Holiday Inn points on the way home and I burned some of my Delta Sky Miles on my way down to EVV.

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We took up six parking spaces, which was once less than the 18 wheeler that was in the lot.

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We hit the hay early and woke up at 7 am, on Monday the 11th and were on the road at 8am for the trip back to Detroit. We unloaded my six items (four Hahn’s and two Eclipse mowers that predate Hahn’s purchase of Eclipse). Zac headed back up to his house to unload. It was a fun weekend that had a lot of my favorite stuff involved, plus the CSX (ex CE&I) mainline went right by the fairground so I saw lots of trains too. A weekend with an airplane trip, a road trip, lots of beer drinking, trains, good food, and old power equipment is always a great weekend in my book! I can’t wait to do it all again next year.

[Edited 2012-06-11 18:23:44]


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10725 times:

Fantastic report and rare to read of reports to Evansville, Indiana.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
The reason for my trip was to go to the 2012 Lawn & Garden Tractor Extravaganza and the Southern Indiana Antique Machinery show.

Sounds like a real interesting show.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
I have had breakfast at the National before and find it a good place for eats at DTW. After eating I headed off to my gate on the B Concourse.

Looks really good. I didn't get to see that restaurant when I last flew out of Detroit.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
The Tunnel is kind of cool, as the light show is rather impressive.

I didn't get to see that either. Reminds me of that crazy Jan Terri video shot at ORD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u0MjpHaRQw

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
It had been a long time since I flew on an RJ of any type, but the CRJ-200 was a cramped as I remembered it.

Did that used to be a DC-9 or CV540 route when Republic and North Cetral flew that route?

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
seeing a 707 of any kind is very cool.
Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
I settled for some water and they had those good dog biscuit shaped Delta cookies I like.

Delta cookies?
Now that sounds cool.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
There are no jet bridges at EVV and there was very little traffic on the ramp, only an American Eagle RJ was to be seen.

Wow, even Gary, Indiana (GYY) has jet bridges.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
It looks like EVV provides umbrella for passenegers when it rains.

Neat how they're stored in Rubbermaid garbage cans.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
I headed outside where Zac was waiting to pick me up and take me to the show grounds, the Vanderburgh 4-H club grounds, in Darmstadt.

That is my favorite generation of Ford F-350.
Does his have the 7.3 liter Powerstroke diesel?


Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
The show featured a lot of large farm tractors and I would loved to have shown mine too, but we didn’t have room on the trailer for it.

I had fun driving your 1948 International FarmAll. How long would it take to drive to Evansville from Detroit?

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
and some not so old interesting cars.

Haha!
A 1985--1989 Lincoln Town Car converted to a pick-up truck.
That's amazing.


Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
Kate, the managing editor of L> Magazine

That is just 1 letter off from LBGT.
Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
I began my pre rodeo preparations by drinking a beer.

There is no other way to start off a rodeo.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
A slow race, which is where the last person to cross the finish line wins. The rules state that if you touch the brake or clutch you are disqualified.

Sounds like fun. Throw on a 4 barrel carburetor on one of those tractors and you can smoke 'em!





Some of these photos reminds me of the Shriners mini-car races.



Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
That evening we headed to a place outside of Evansville, called the Hornets Nest, which was a great bar and grill.

I love that sign; 'Beer and Eats'.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
Sunday morning came early and around 7am I got up and took a shower and we headed down to get a hearty breakfast. We were all in need of a real "hog slopper".

That looks like a very delicious breakfast! I miss those country breakfast joints in Indiana.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
We also stopped by the grocery store. Zac’s GT-700 is a 1976 model and has a hydrostatic drive system.

Haha!
Awesome!

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
Zac also is storing his LTD-500

What year is his LTD?
I'd like to see that in your next trip report.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
A weekend with an airplane trip, a road trip, lots of beer drinking, trains, good food, and old power equipment is always a great weekend in my book!

Sounds good in my book as well!
This was a great trip report and a departure from the usual business class upgrade, mileage runs to the usual tourist destinations.



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6127 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10714 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Does his have the 7.3 liter Powerstroke diesel?

Yes... Hauled that trailer like it was nothing.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Did that used to be a DC-9 or CV540 route when Republic and North Cetral flew that route?

I am sure it had both. TWA once flew that route too. DL has been in EVV a long time. Zac has a post card of EVV in the 1950s with a Delta/C&S Convairliner at the gate.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
A 1985--1989 Lincoln Town Car converted to a pick-up truck.
That's amazing.

The night before I got there I heard it was hauling a cow.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Wow, even Gary, Indiana (GYY) has jet bridges.

EVV used to have jet bridges back in the good old days. Zac, who is from Evansville, remembers using them before the new terminal opened in 1988.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
What year is his LTD?

It is a Hahn LTD-500 riding lawn mower... It is a 1975.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10706 times:

Quoting falstaff (Reply 2):
Yes... Hauled that trailer like it was nothing.


You can pull a small house out of it's foundation with those things.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 2):
Zac has a post card of EVV in the 1950s with a Delta/C&S Convairliner at the gate.


Nice.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 2):
EVV used to have jet bridges back in the good old days. Zac, who is from Evansville, remembers using them before the new terminal opened in 1988.


Interesting that the 'new' airport would have less conveniences.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 2):
It is a Hahn LTD-500 riding lawn mower... It is a 1975.


Darn, I was hoping it was a Ford LTD with a vinyl roof.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 2):
The night before I got there I heard it was hauling a cow.


LOL!
I've hauled plenty of cows inside my Town Car!         

Would have been awesome if you could have got a photo of that.   



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User currently offlinekurt From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10528 times:

That looks like fun. I love those tractors! I watched an old movie called "Summer Stock" that featured a Ford 8N that had the Ford logos removed and replaced with the "Earthbuster" logo. Strange, but the tractor was beautiful, with gray and red paint.

I am no fan of of the CRJ-200. I am supposed to fly DEN-SBA next week on SkyWest and I am not looking forward it; 2:37 is too long for a regional jet!


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10300 times:

Quoting kurt (Reply 4):
That looks like fun. I love those tractors! I watched an old movie called "Summer Stock" that featured a Ford 8N that had the Ford logos removed and replaced with the "Earthbuster" logo. Strange, but the tractor was beautiful, with gray and red paint.



My family moved from Gary, Indiana when I was only 11 back in 1984. I can clearly remember going to the shopping malls in Indiana and seeing tractors for sale in stores. Even in shopping malls with hip clothing stores such as The Gap, Nike, County Seat, Hickory Farms, Lerners, Kay-Bee Toys, Spencers, Famous Amos cookies, Camelot Records, Shaffer & Son pianos and other common shopping mall stores. I can recall climbing on to these tractors as a kid although my parents would get really pissed at me for doing so. If we had stayed in Indiana longer, I could have seen myself getting in to this hobby at an early age.
I have a lot of catching up to do.

Imagine at one time, you could buy one of these tractors and snow blowers under the same roof as the place you could buy Levi's blue jeans, the latest LP or 8track tape by David Bowie or Styx, a grand piano, a deep friar, a box of Legos, a Ouija board, women's panties, a huge sausage & cheese block, a spool of yarn for grandma, a fruit cake, guns & ammunition and a bag of chocolate & macadamia nut cookies from Famous Amos.

Quoting kurt (Reply 4):
I am no fan of of the CRJ-200. I am supposed to fly DEN-SBA next week on SkyWest and I am not looking forward it; 2:37 is too long for a regional jet!


Sorry to read about that.  
Is there anyway to book a trip on Amtrak?
How about Southwest?



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User currently offlineont2cgi From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10186 times:

Always good to see a domestic US Trip report.

User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2247 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9633 times:

Thanks for a great trip report, Falstaff! It's wonderful that you were able to share your hobby with so many people.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
It had been a long time since I flew on an RJ of any type, but the CRJ-200 was a cramped as I remembered it.

Did that used to be a DC-9 or CV540 route when Republic and North Cetral flew that route?

North Central did not fly to EVV before deregulation; SBN was the only city in Indiana they served. EVV was in Lake Central's territory, and was also served by EA and DL / C&S.

Here are links to EVV's schedules over the years at Departed Flights:

http://www.departedflights.com/EVV79p1.html
http://www.departedflights.com/EVV81p1.html
http://www.departedflights.com/EVV89p1.html
http://www.departedflights.com/EVV89p1.html



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6127 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 9572 times:
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Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 7):
served by EA and DL / C&S.

Here are some postcards showing EVV over the years.







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User currently offlinekurt From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9531 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Sorry to read about that.
Is there anyway to book a trip on Amtrak?
How about Southwest?

Sometimes you just have to get there (ugh, what a terrible thought). I'm meeting somebody so their plans are dictating mine. Luckily the return is SBA-SFO (EMB-120, which I love), SFO-DEN (737-900).


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Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9441 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 7):

Thanks!
When I was 3 years old, I flew on a North Central CV540 from somewhere in Michigan to either Chicago or Gary.
Did North Central ever fly to GYY?

Quoting falstaff (Reply 8):
Here are some postcards showing EVV over the years.

That 4th photo looks really impressive with the long horizontal beams. Is that the existing or old terminal?

Quoting falstaff (Reply 8):
Sometimes you just have to get there (ugh, what a terrible thought). I'm meeting somebody so their plans are dictating mine. Luckily the return is SBA-SFO (EMB-120, which I love), SFO-DEN (737-900).

Understood.
The Santa Barbara - San Francisco flight should be a lot of fun.  



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6127 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9418 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
That 4th photo looks really impressive with the long horizontal beams. Is that the existing or old terminal?

The last postcard is the terminal that is there now, which opened in 1988.



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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2247 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9199 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
Thanks!
When I was 3 years old, I flew on a North Central CV540 from somewhere in Michigan to either Chicago or Gary.
Did North Central ever fly to GYY?

Superfly,

I don't believe NC ever flew to Gary, but I can check when I get home. I think NC's Detroit-Chicago milk run stopped at Jackson, Battle Creek, Kalamazoo, and South Bend, but not Gary.

Also, not to be nit picky, but NC flew CV 580s, not 540s.

The 540 was a Convair 340 that was re engined in the early 1960s with Napier Eland turbo prop engines. Allegheny was the only operator; they flew six 540s briefly, before re converting them back to piston engines.

The 580 was a Convair 240 / 340 / 440 that was re engined in the late 1960s with Allison 501 turbo props (the same engines used on the Lockheed Electra and Hercules).

I grew up in the Detroit area, and saw NC / RC / NW 580s whenever I visited DTW, but I never had a chance to fly on one - something I've always regretted!



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9059 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 12):
Also, not to be nit picky, but NC flew CV 580s, not 540s.

No, thanks for being nit picky. I wasn't exactly sure which series of Convair it was. The CV580 sounds about right.

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 12):
The 580 was a Convair 240 / 340 / 440 that was re engined in the late 1960s with Allison 501 turbo props (the same engines used on the Lockheed Electra and Hercules).

Man those must have been powerful!



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8995 times:

Hi

Interesting trip report! Good to see the CRJ featured, my worst regional aircraft.
Interesting to follow the tractor rodeo as well.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1168 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8686 times:
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Hi Falstaff,

Nice report, thanks for sharing. What a great idea to add the show to the report, nice pictures!

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
The Tunnel is kind of cool, as the light show is rather impressive.

Sure looks cool!

cheers,
Brendan // adamspotter


User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 718 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8611 times:

Interesting read, Falstaff -- thanks for sharing your experience with us! I know the CRJ is no one's favorite, but I do work on the plane (and have grown attached to it), so I always like reading reports on them.


Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
National Coney Island

This is one of my favorite places at DTW! I have yet to try the breakfast there, but the dogs are great.

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
The EVV terminal was small and not much was going on in the gate area.

Nice architecture there. I enjoy the 1980s/early 1990s styles. Is that a former Northwest gate next door with the red background?

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
We also stopped by the grocery store.

Every small town in the Midwest either has a Piggly Wiggly or an IGA. Nice that you got to experience one of them!



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User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6127 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 8278 times:
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Quoting KGRB (Reply 16):
Nice architecture there. I enjoy the 1980s/early 1990s styles. Is that a former Northwest gate next door with the red background?

I would assume so. NW (Airlink) served EVV.

Quoting KGRB (Reply 16):
Every small town in the Midwest either has a Piggly Wiggly or an IGA. Nice that you got to experience one of them

So do a lot of big town. When I lived in Warrensburg, Missouri I shopped at Piggly Wiggly; "Funny name, serious price!" There are some IGA stores in the south suburbs of Detroit, but most of the independents around here are Spartans.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 14):
Good to see the CRJ featured, my worst regional aircraft.

mine too. I don't enjoy flying on the CRJ100/200, but it would make dandy private jet. Now that I would like...

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 15):
What a great idea to add the show to the report, nice pictures!

glad you enjoyed it.



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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2247 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7621 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 12):
The 580 was a Convair 240 / 340 / 440 that was re engined in the late 1960s with Allison 501 turbo props (the same engines used on the Lockheed Electra and Hercules).

Man those must have been powerful!

Frontier called their 580s "Mountain Masters", for their ability to get in / out of the more marginal airports on their route system. People who flew on 580s have referred to them as "scaled down, two engine Electras", a compliment given that the Electra was considered one of the most powerful propeller driven aircraft.

Unfortunately, the 580's power led to a horrific accident in 1967. The right engine propeller of a Lake Central 580 enroute from ORD to DTW via LAF, CVG, CMH, and TOL separated while the aircraft was cruising between CMH and TOL, and cut into the fuselage so deeply that the fuselage failed. All 38 passengers and crew were killed.

Link to Aviation Safety Network report on the crash:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19670305-0



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10104 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7268 times:
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I randomly decided to go to the Trip Reports forum (I never actually browse here), and happened to read your report, Falstaff. This jumped out at me:

Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
There are no jet bridges at EVV and there was very little traffic on the ramp, only an American Eagle RJ was to be seen.
Quoting falstaff (Thread starter):
Apparently EVV will soon be getting jet bridges.

...because I fly Jetblue out of Long Beach quite often. No jetbridges there either currently, but they are doing a whole terminal expansion and such, and I think they're getting jetbridges as well.

Makes me sad....One of the highlights of flying out of LGB is getting to walk out on the tarmac right up to an A320. Really puts into perspective how large these aircraft are!



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7022 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 19):
...because I fly Jetblue out of Long Beach quite often. No jetbridges there either currently, but they are doing a whole terminal expansion and such, and I think they're getting jetbridges as well.

I flew in & out of LBG only once and it was way back in 1987.
They had a few jetbridges then. That was my first time on a 767 and it was on United to Chicago ORD.

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 18):
Unfortunately, the 580's power led to a horrific accident in 1967. The right engine propeller of a Lake Central 580 enroute from ORD to DTW via LAF, CVG, CMH, and TOL separated while the aircraft was cruising between CMH and TOL, and cut into the fuselage so deeply that the fuselage failed. All 38 passengers and crew were killed.

Wow that was horrible.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 17):
I shopped at Piggly Wiggly

Do they sale clothes too?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently onlinefalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6127 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6702 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
I flew in & out of LBG only once and it was way back in 1987.
They had a few jetbridges then

My buddy, Zac, who is from Evansville swears up and down they used to have a jet bridge or two back in the 1980s, he remembers using one.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
Do they sale clothes too?

Never saw any, but the store I shopped at was small, some of the big stores may have all kinds of stuff



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