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Sicily With The Wings Of Italy:LGW-MXP-PMO-LIN-LHR  
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 19966 times:

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Sicily with the Wings of Italy:LGW-MXP-PMO-LIN-LHR

Hello!

Welcome to my newest report covering my May flights down to Sicily with Alitalia & Co. Like many of my European adventures nowadays, this trip started with a few drinks with a friend. After a few hours, a tasty meal,and a few pints, my friend and I had decided on a trip “somewhere South”. Of course, it was left up to me to find a trip. I’d already been to a few Eastern European places with this particular friend (Transylvania and Armenia), so it would be nice to travel somewhere new with him. I found a good deal for OU flights to Split, but came a bit stuck when looking for decent accommodation. Spain was pretty expensive for relatively last minute flights. There were, however, plenty of cheap flights via AZ for Italy. I’ve always wanted to fly with Alitalia. That green and red livery is just beautiful. And it’s a great name too…ali means wings in Italian….the Wings of Italy! How poetic!

Unfortunately the easy to find flights (on all search engines) for around GBP 115 rtn showed false availability. Once you clicked on the flights, the prices shot up. I did eventually find a reasonable deal routing to Palermo in Sicily for GBP 141 each, outbound on Air One via Milan Malpensa, and back on AZ (& co) via Linate. I was happy to add two new routes on my map for the London to Milan sector (previously I’d flown LHR-MXP on
BA & BD/LH). I now just have LGW-LIN (U2), BGY-STN (FR) and LCY-LIN (AZ) left to fly!

Plenty of ways from London to Milan (courtesy of GC mapper):
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Ironically, none of the four flights would actually be operated by Alitalia proper, despite all having AZ flight numbers. The first two were Air One with an “AP” code, the 3rd operated with a “VE” code with “Vola Windjet” as the operating company on an AZ painted MD80, and the final leg as an “XM” code operated by CAI, also on an AZ painted plane….how confusing to the average passenger.

My flights therefore looked like this (courtesy of GC mapper):


I found a cheap B&B in the centre of town, and then hired a car via Sixt/Expedia. We were all set.

Fast forward a few weeks, and I met up with my friend in the South Terminal of Gatwick Airport. The Air One desks were the closest to the entrance, and had no queue…good start. Normally Air One charges for baggage, but as we had booked via AZ, we got a 20kg luggage allowance. We had our bags checked through to Palermo, and were given our boarding passes for LGW-MXP. The lady at the desk said she couldn’t issue our MXP-PMO passes (I’d checked in online, but not printed out), and that we’d have to pick them up in MXP…annoying.

We headed through security (not too long a queue), and then to Café Rouge to get some lunch. Thanks TupolevTu154 for the restaurant with a view advice!

My salmon croque monsieur…very tasty
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With our eating done, we headed over to the gate. EI-DSR would be taking us to Lombardy today.
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Long-haul neighbour
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An African newcomer across the way
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Just over 30 minutes before out STD, we were invited to board.

May 2012
London Gatwick (LGW) – Milan Malpensa (MXP)
Air One AP 303, sold as Alitalia AZ 7973
Scheduled: 1340-1640 (2h00m)
Actual: 1342-1607 (1h25m)
Airbus A320 EI-DSR
Economy



Air One has an interested no-frills approach to onboard seating. The first 3 rows are sold as an extra space area (same legroom, but the middle seat is unsold. Seats here cost EUR 30 to reserve. The aisle seats in rows 4-11 cost EUR 3 to reserve (window and middle seats are free, but can only be reserved at check in). The exit row seats are EUR 10. The back of the plane is also free, but can only be reserved at check in. The result of this organisation is that on lightly loaded flights full of penny pinchers, none of the forward aisle seats are taken (or the front or exit rows). As such, if you’re sat near the front, there is plenty of space to spread out after take off.
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We were welcomed on-board by the purser having a conversation with another member of crew. We found our seats and settled in.
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The obvious feature of the seat on the place where a TV should go….were these ever installed on this bird. Why were they removed, or never installed? Would have been nice to have, but I can live without it for 90 minutes.
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OK legroom
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Decent recline
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The cabin filled up a little. As I said, no one was sat on any of the aisle seats, so my friend moved over and we had 3 seats to ourselves. The back of the plane seemed quite busy, but the front was very spacious.
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The bridge
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Air China’s new LGW service. It’s great that LGW has managed to get some many new services (VN to SGN and HAN), HX to HKG, CA to PEK etc, minus the loss of QR to DOH) . This flight also complements the LHR flight times quite well. Having said that, if they’re desperate for capacity at LHR, why not upgrade the A330 to a B744/B77W?http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/palermo/DSCF0826.jpg

Belavia (just for you FlyingFinn!). Over the years a lot of Eastern European airlines have moved from LHR to LGW. CSA, Malev, Adria. Belavia never flew there though.
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And Air Nigeria again
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BA
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U2
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The new Hong Kong Airlines all business flight to HKG. It’s a nice idea (and the products looks great) but I can’t see it lasting
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CA heading back to PEK
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Monarch A300
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A very forlorn looking I-DAVA
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Just two minutes behind schedule, and we’re off

The take off video is here.

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The BOB menu. Having an AZ ticket yields no free catering, just a checked bag allowance.


Pricey
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The Magazine….not a single word in English (apart from the massive titles), just Italian.
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Route map


Fleet info
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Seating info
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Safety card
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Views…it was a little too cloudy for good views of the Alps
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Nice Air One decal…very LHesque
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Well ahead of schedule we begin our approach, landing over 30 minutes early. If you want to see the landing video, click here.

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I love the Eurofly livery…grey and red go well together
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We disembark into the sunshine, and are bussed to arrivals
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There is a short queue for security, but the queue moved slowly. The passageway from security lead back up to the non-Schengen departure area. As we still had no boarding pass for the next flight, we tried to find a transfer desk. The lady at the information desk (nowhere near as helpful as our Infodesk) pointed us toward the Schengen area.

Once there we asked again for the transfer desk. We searched and asked and looked. Finally I went into the lounge to ask, and was told there was no such transfer desk, and we should get our boarding pass at the gate when it was manned. Hmmm, not very good. no option now but to hang around.

IR to Terhan
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SV back to Riyadh
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LH
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Vueling
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The depressing underground bussing area in MXP. At least it wasn’t too busy
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I periodically went to check if the desk was staffed or not. Finally, around 30 minutes before departure, someone appeared. With one agent checking boarding passes for the other passengers (it was a full flight, and the queue of Sicilians were impatient to get going), another agent printed out our boarding passes, as well as asking for our baggage receipts. We were then let onto the bus for the short journey to EI-DST (why are so many Italian aircraft registering in Ireland? Aren’t long term leased aircraft at least registered in the main country normally).

May 2012
Milan Malpensa (MXP) – Palermo (PMO)
Air One AP 136, sold as Alitalia AZ 7432
Scheduled: 1755-1935 (1h40m)
Actual: 1754-1910 (1h16m)
Airbus A320 EI-DST
Economy



The seat map at online check in
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The flight this Friday evening is completely full as far as I can see. The crew are also a bit aloof upon boarding, but in an unconscious effort of cheer everyone up, they all seem to be part of a Village People tribute band. Handlebar moustaches and muscles galore from the four blokes mincing up and down the aisle. Very amusing.

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I want to try them someday
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A minute ahead of schedule, and we’re off
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Nice airport views after take off
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Leaving the mainland behind
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Once again I declined the pricey BOB, and just enjoyed the views. Before long we began our early approach into Palermo. Air One have seem to run nice and early.
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The runway flows the coastline at the bottom of the hill
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Doing a slow turn over the bay
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Nearly lined up
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And we’re down. Welcome to Sicily!
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We park next to this Ryanair jet. The tarmac outside the terminal is being redone, so all arrivals are bussed despite the presence of airbridges.
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AZ heading back to Fuimicino
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We disembark, then sit in the sun for a while. Thankfully the doors remain open so I can take some photos.
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We were dropped off at thee terminal and headed over to the baggage reclaim area.
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After a few minutes, my bag appeared. We waited a few more minutes, then a little longer, until the bags stopped coming out. It seems that despite the reasonable connection time, and the fact that my bag made it, my friend’s bag was still in MXP. Luckily for my friend, I’ve had my bag lost more times than I care to recall (OS x 1, AF x 1, BA x 2) so knew what to do. It took about 20 minutes for the friendly staff to register my friends particulars. They didn’t mention anything about buying replacements until I prompted them. They said it might be on the next flight (24 hours later) or sent on a flight via FCO the next morning. However, at this point, they didn’t actually know where it was so everything was guesswork.

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With our early arrival time advantage now gone, we left the terminal and managed to find the well hidden bus to the car hire place.
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I was hoping to get a Smart Car, but we ended up with a Panda. There is a bit of a disagreement over the price of an extra driver (my Expedia confirmation said EUR 4/day, whilst Sixt insisted it was EUR 8). I paid up in the end as I just wanted to get to the hotel. On my return I sent Expedia an email about it. I was very surprised to get a call a few days later from Expedia Head Office USA (maybe a quasi-perk of the still uninitiated UK Expedia® Elite Plus™ programme) saying that under the circumstances, they’d refund me the EUR 8. Whoop!

With that all sorted, we drove into Palermo. This was the first time I’d driven in Italy. The driving wasn’t as awful as I expected, but still not quite up to the gentlemanly conduct of the Home Counties : )

Here are a few photos of Palermo

View from our hotel room:
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Market
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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 20022 times:

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Streets
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The amazing cathedral

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The Cappella Palatina in the Palazzo dei Normanni
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The catacombs – amazing place, although not for those of a sensitive nature

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The outdoor church and view from the top of nearby hill

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Wonderful food and drink

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Mmm, limoncello
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After two very nice nights in Palermo, we drove back to the airport with a quick stop on the beach of Mondello

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We dropped the car back off without a problem, and caught the bus back to the terminal. A quick enquiry at the AZ desk revealed that my friends bag was still missing.

FIDS

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There was no queue at the AZ desks, and our boarding passes were printed, and my bag was tagged back to Heathrow. When checking in online, I noticed that the MD80 was showing the first five rows as having 2x2 seating, whilst the rest of the plane having 2x3 seats. Hmmm, what’s that about. I recalled in the very dim and distant past AZ having “proper” Business class seats installed in some aircraft…could this be one? I selected row 4 with a greyed out middle seat between us, and crossed my fingers. For the LIN-LHR leg, I went for the emergency exit row.

Landside

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We headed outside once my bag had gone to finish our bottles of water before going through security

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Lines for security were short, and we were airside in just a few minutes….it wasn’t a particularly interesting place to wait. We were going to get a beer, but they were EUR 6 each so we just played cards on a bench near the gate.

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Our Gate
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May 2012
Palermo (PMO) – Milan Linate (LIN)
VE 7046, sold as Alitalia AZ 7046
Scheduled: 1700-1835 (1h35m)
Actual: 1706-1822 (1h16m)
McDonnell Douglas 82 I-DACR
Economy



Boarding started just over 20 minutes before our STD by taking a long walk down an airbridge, then down the steps onto a bus.

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The FCO flight

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Before long, we pulled alongside our MD80…doesn’t it look great!

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I’m not sure if there was also boarding available under the tail or not, but with seats in row 4, it wouldn’t have made sense anyway.

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At the top of the steps, I was greeted by a very friendly guy and pointed aft. As hoped, we were indeed sat in the old business class seats. My friend had never flown anything but economy before, so was quite happy with this minor upgrade.

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Nice belt
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Interestingly, despite the heavy load, there were still quite a few seats left in the “business” cabin. More fool them!

A nice view out the window
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A manual safety demo was done, and we were on our way. The crew on this flight were the best of all our flights – friendly and helpful, with lots of smiles. Interestingly, of the four flights, there was just 1 female member of cabin crew.

Safety card

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The take off video is here.

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The cabin

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Inflight service was more than on Air One, but by no stretch of the imagination would it be called generous….a glass of water and a napkin

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Still, I’m not complaining. Waste not want not! We passed the time playing cards.

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Whiteout
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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 20030 times:

Roughly halfway through the flight, one of the friendly cabin crew brought a single lady up to the empty row behind us. From eavesdropping the conversation, it seems like the lady was a very nervous flyer, and the guy was trying to comfort her a little. He sat with her for about 10 minutes just chatting about various things. Nice touch.

Once again we started our approach nice and early into a wet and foggy Milan Linate.

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I was quite excited to see the Olympic flame plane just a few days after she ferried the flame from ATH to NQY.

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We disembarked into the drizzle and were bus over to arrivals. I was quite surprised to find that there was no airside transit. Instead, we had to go out via arrivals, but back upstairs to check in and through security there. I was expecting something a bit along the lines of the size London City Airport, and class of Singapore or Incheon. Instead Linate was large and old, with very drudgey architecture.

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FIDS

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Thankfully we didn’t have too long between going through security and immigration before boarding. Thirty minutes before departure, boarding was called. When we arrived it was clear that the scheduled A320 was now an A319 meaning we’d lost our exit row seats…shame, but worse things have happened.

May 2012
Milan Linate (LIN) – London Heathrow (LHR)
XM 5248, sold as Alitalia AZ 7898
Scheduled: 1940-2045 (2h05m)
Actual: 1945-2016 (1h31m)
Airbus A319 EI-IMB “Isola de Giglio” (originally I-BIMB)
Economy

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Thankfully Alitalia wings are painted beautifully, so I wasn’t too sad about missing the exit by 1 row.
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Legroom - adequate
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Safety card


Ulisse Magazine


Domestic map


European map
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Long-range Fleet


More seats without TVs. This was just before the second bus arrived giving us a 100% load in economy.
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It’s wet outside
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A Meridiana MD80 landing
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Goodbye Italy!
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Before too long the cabin crew sprang into action, closed the curtain between business and economy, and started the inflight service. It was fairly similar to BA’s, although lacking any spirits. I got a salty snack along with some water and red wine….not too bad.
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Sunset with a lovely wing
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For the fourth and final time, we began our descent into Heathrow nice and early. The descending video is here.

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Look who’s made it back to Heathrow
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A380s at Terminal 3
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EY
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MH
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SV
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QR
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Terminal 4 line up
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Heathrow East
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Jet and AF
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KM
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After a scenic tour of the airport, we pulled onto stand next to an Air Malta A320. It was nice to see Terminal 4 again…I very rarely use the terminal. In recent years I’ve only flown UL LHR-MLE-CMB (2007) and BA RIX-LHR (2005).
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Immigration didn’t take too long, and thankfully neither did the wait for my bag. Thanks for the early arrival, I had *just* enough time to make the final bus of the day back home. I thought I would miss it so had already bought an open return to/from Gatwick which I would no longer use….as it turned out, thanks to this ticket, a few days later I booked my first trip on Flybe GLA-BHD-LGW (report out soon). I bid adieu to my friend who was taking the tube back to London and hopped on the bus.

Overall I thought the flights were pretty good. Getting the Air One flights (and service) when paying for an Alitalia flight was a bit annoying, but at the end of the day, I only missed out on a glass of wine and a small snack. The Alitalia flights themselves were also fine. The service PMO-LIN was a bit minimalistic, but the crew were friendly (and we got the C class seats!). LIN-LHR showed that AZ is actually quite a nice airline, and offers better inflight complimentary catering than the likes of SN, IB and SK.

All the flights landed early, which is brilliant and exceeded expectations. The one sour point of the journey was my friend’s lost bag. He finally had it delivered to his house around 3 days after getting back. We did a bit of shopping in Palermo (totted up about EUR 86 of stuff, hardly excessive), and submitted the bill to AZ on his return. They came back saying:

“We would like to inform you that it is company policy to consider the facts including the period of delay before delivery of the baggage and the costs claimed to have been incurred in consequence. Alitalia reimburse 50% of claimed costs in reference to toiletries and clothing expenses.”

Obviously both my friend and I was a annoyed by this…he wrote a letter back and is still waiting to hear from AZ. When AF lost my bag in CDG, I was given EUR 50 cash and a wash bag immediately, and they settled in full. BA in LHR also paid out in full, even though I was at my final destination.

Palermo itself was nice…the city has enough diversions for a weekend. I wish we’d have had a few more days to explore a bit of the countryside though…next time!

As always, all comments and questions welcome!

Some of my other TRs:

Part 12: Sun Air of Scandinavia & BA, DUS-BLL-MAN-LHR on the J31, D328 and A320
Part 11: Thai Airways BKK-FRA, B77W First Class & LH FRA-DUS Business
Part 10: Thai Airways Kathmandu-Bangkok, B772 Business Class
Part 9: Yeti Airlines “Everest Express” on the J41
Part 8: Biman Bangladesh A310 Dhaka-Kathmandu
Part 7: United Airways ATR Dhaka-Cox’s Bazar & Regent Airways Dash Chittagong-Dhaka
Part 6: Biman Bangladesh DC10 Calcutta-Dhaka
Part 5: SpiceJet B739 & Jet Konnect B738 Calcutta-Bagdogra rtn, with Darjeeling
Part 4: Singapore Airlines A330 Business Class Singapore-Calcutta
Part 3: Sriwijiaya Airlines & Lion Air Boeing 737-900ER Banda Aceh-Medan-Jakarta-Singapore
Part 2: Valuair/Jetstar Asia SIN-MES and Garuda MES-BTJ
Part 1: U2 LTN-BCN, SQ BCN-SIN 77W Business
Africa Part 7: British Airways Club Europe B767, LCA-LHR
Africa Part 6: LX ZRH-ATH, A3 ATH-LCA. A Greek Tragedy
Africa Part 5: Dar es Salaam – Nairobi – Zurich with Swiss First
Africa Part 4: Fly 540 DAR-ZNZ in Y, and Zanzibar photos
Africa Part 3: ET KGL-EBB-ADD-DAR-ZNZ, A to Z with Ethiopian Airlines in C
Africa Part 2: SN BRU-BJM, SA BJM-KGL, Business to Burundi and Rwanda
Africa Part 1: BD LHR-CMN, TP CMN-LIS, SN LIS-BRU in Y and C
A.net meeting in snowy Tallinn. U2/FR STN-TLL-LTN
easyJet and bmi up to Aberdeen, LTN-ABZ-LHR
The Costa del Sol with British Airways. LGW-AGP-LCY
Mysterious Moldova (and Transnistria). Lufthansa LHR-MUC-KIV
BA to the Austrian Alps. LHR-MUC, INN-LGW
I can't get no Jetisfaction: LH LGW-FRA inaugural
Colombia Part 4: Colombia to London via FRA/MUC/HEL on LH & BA
Colombia Part 3: Colombia with Avianca (AV). SMR-BOG-MDE-BOG
Colombia Part 2: Colombia with Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG
Colombia Part 1: London to Colombia via ARN/MUC/FRA on BA & LH
USA and Mexico Part 4, British Airways Mexico City – London, World Traveller Plus
USA and Mexico Part 3: Around Mexico with Aereo Calafia Cessna 208B & Viva Aerobus B733
USA and Mexico Part 2: Sightseeing tour of San Diego Airport, and American Airlines San Diego - LA – Dallas - San Jose Cabo
USA and Mexico Part 1: easyJet Luton to Paris, and BA Paris to San Diego via LHR in World Traveller Plus
British Airways to Scandinavia (LHR-CPH,GOT-LHR)
Where’s my bag? British Airways, Milan to London
What airline am I flying again? Bmi/Lufthansa Italia LHR-MXP
Albania and Macedonia: Austrian LHR-VIE-TIA, Macedonian Airlines SKP-ZRH, Swiss ZRH-LCY
Part 1, Lufthansa London-Munich-Frankfurt-Nanjing, Economy Class A321 and A343
Part 2, Cathay Pacific Shanghai to Tokyo via Hong Kong, Business Class A330 and B747-400
Part 3, ANA Boeing B767 Tokyo to Shanghai, & Air China Airbus A340 Shanghai to Beijing, Business Class
Part 4: Chinese domestics, inc. Joy Air Xi’an MA60, Tianjin Airlines ERJ, and China Express Airways CRJ
Part 5: Lufthansa Beijing-Frankfurt-London City, Economy Class A388 and E90
5 Countries, 5 Flights, 5 Days, with Ryanair (FR)
bmiFriday: Welcome to Sunny Norway, London to Bergen, A319)
Royal Jordanian, London to Aqaba via Amman. A330 and A320
Royal Jordanian, Amman to London, A330
London City to Antwerp with Cityjet and the Fokker 50
Croatian Airlines, LHR-ZAG,PUY-ZAD-ZAG-LHR, A319 and Dash 8
British Airways, Iberia & Binter to Tenerife and Gran Canaria, LHR-MAD-TFN-LPA-MAD-LHR, A320,ATR, A321
British Airways, London To Amsterdam, LGW-AMS-LHR, B737 & A321
British Airways up to a snowy Glasgow, with a change of flights and delay, LHR-GLA-LCY A321 and E90
Turkish Airlines Business Class from London to Istanbul. From Terrible To Fantastic
Turkish Airlines Business Class from Istanbul to Batumi (Georgia). Not again!
bmi Business Class, Tbilisi to London via Azerbaijan
Tallinn to London, with Estonian Air and BA, via ARN
Cuba! BA/IB London-Madrid-Havana, Business Class
Aerocarribean, Baracoa to Havana
Asia Trip, Pt 1: Qatar Airways Business Class (LHR-DOH-ICN)
Asia Trip, Pt 2: China Southern and Hainan Airlines (A321/A346)
Asia Trip, Pt 3: Malaysia Airlines, Hong Kong to Penang
Asia Trip, Pt 4: Qatar Airways Economy (HKG-DOH-LHR)
A weekend in Transylvania with Blue Air (LTN-SBZ)
Helsinki for the weekend on BA and KF
Easter in Ukraine with Austrian
UAE and Oman with BA and Air Arabia. Y & Y+
HKG-LHR-HKG Air New Zealand, Premium Economy and Economy
US Airways LGW-DCA-MSP-LGA-LGW
London Heathrow - Zurich - Venice on Swiss Business for the weekend
Chasing the Eclipse on China Eastern
Taiwan: EVA Air (HKG-TPE rtn), UNI Airways (TSA-HCN), Daily Air (TTT-KYD rtn)
UA HKG-SIN-HKG Y Class, SQ KUL-SIN C Class
Bangkok to Beijing, Egyptair Business Class
Air China Beijing to Harbin, B777 Economy outbound, A330 First Class return
Tiger Airways, Singapore to Darwin return
A selection of Chinese Domestics; China Eastern, Air China and Shenzhen Airlines
Hong Kong to London on Singapore Airlines (744/380/77W)
Qatar Airways Beijing-Doha-London Heathrow (A330/A340)
Air China First Class. Beijing-Guilin via Xi’an
Armenia with Austrian Airlines. LHR-VIE-EVN
Round Asia Trip. URC-HTN,OSS-FRU,ALA-URC-LHW-KMG-JHG-KMG-SYX,HAK-NKG-PEK-NRT-LHR,
Hainan Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Lucky Air, ANA, Economy and Business Class.

SAS and Lufthansa Business Class, LHR-OSL-FRA-FRA, B73G and B744



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1377 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 19704 times:

Great report as ever!

Interesting that between yourself and Palmjet, in the last couple of days both flights i was originally planning on taking to Milan have been covered (before a much more interesting route came along). So at least I've not totally missed out!

Be interesting to hear about your Flybe routes too as I'm doing that exact route myself in a couple of weeks - although i won't be going up to GLA on a Megabus!



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User currently offlinetrentside From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19571 times:

Thanks for the interesting report gabrielchew.

I found the pictures of Palermo particularly interesting, and am now somewhat regretting scrapping an itinerary that would have seen me pass through there with AirOne and Volotea. Still there's always next time!

Got to agree with you about the Alitalia colours, have always been a fan - and the MD82 is a nice bonus!


User currently offlinedc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2299 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19527 times:

Hi Gabriel,

Great report, and nice to see some pics of Sicily.

AirOne being AirOne, I see....

You caught some nice and rare aircraft in your pics, especially that IR A300 was interesting.

Yeah, the AZ MD-82s are quite interesting airplanes. The large business class section is an interesting detail. I wish I'd known about it the only time I got to fly on one of their MDs, way back, almost 10 years ago now I suppose.

Thanks very much for your report, it was a pleasure to read!


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19467 times:

Thanks for the replies!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
Interesting that between yourself and Palmjet, in the last couple of days both flights i was originally planning on taking to Milan have been covered (before a much more interesting route came along). So at least I've not totally missed out!

Glad we could be of assistance!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 3):
Be interesting to hear about your Flybe routes too as I'm doing that exact route myself in a couple of weeks - although i won't be going up to GLA on a Megabus!

What date are you flying and I'll try and publish before your departure?

Quoting trentside (Reply 4):
Thanks for the interesting report gabrielchew.

No problem!

Quoting trentside (Reply 4):
I found the pictures of Palermo particularly interesting, and am now somewhat regretting scrapping an itinerary that would have seen me pass through there with AirOne and Volotea. Still there's always next time!

Indeed, there is always next time!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 5):

Great repor

Thanks

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 5):
You caught some nice and rare aircraft in your pics, especially that IR A300 was interesting.

I thought the SV 320 was cooler, but yes, the IR plane was a good catch

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 5):
Thanks very much for your report, it was a pleasure to read!

Glad you liked it



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User currently offlinejwhite9185 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 1377 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 19259 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 6):

Weekend of 7th July - no rush though, if you can you can, if not then ill get to discover it all first hand!



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User currently offlineROGERBCN From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 18993 times:

Hola Gabriel!

Very interesting story to PMO, a really well written and very nice pictured report to know a little bit more on the Southern islands of Italy, a really nice place still waiting for my visit, need to go there, but not in summer, too hot for my taste.

This idea of having code-sahred flights with companies that offer a sub-standard level of service is not great, I always remember when JK flew to ZRH code-sharing with LX, you could end up buying an LX ticket and get stuck in that horrible leg-room, BOB service and lack of friendly service... sad but true.

I really enjoy the MD C class seating, really nice to have those open for all passengers, I bet you were looked on envy by some other customers.

Losing one's baggage has happened to all of us, I guess, mine has been around the world several times by LH, KL, AC... and delivered the next day without problem, I guess AZ, or Air One for the matter, is not as efficient as other airlines.

Salut!

Roger



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User currently offlineroberts87 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 1014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 18959 times:

Hi Gabriel,

Great trip report as usual!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Sicily with the Wings of Italy:LGW-MXP-PMO-LIN-LHR

It seems everyone is going to Siciliy. My folks, a few friends, a couple of co-workers. Maybe I should start planning too.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was quite surprised to find that there was no airside transit.

Yeah, LIN is mostly aimed at O&D, so no transit. Similar to LCY.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was expecting something a bit along the lines of the size London City Airport, and class of Singapore or Incheon. Instead Linate was large and old, with very drudgey architecture.

Indeed. For a design and style capital that Milan is both airports are quite the let down.


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 18875 times:

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 7):
Weekend of 7th July - no rush though, if you can you can, if not then ill get to discover it all first hand!

Will see what I can do

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):

Very interesting story to PMO, a really well written and very nice pictured report

Thanks Roger

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
This idea of having code-sahred flights with companies that offer a sub-standard level of service is not great, I always remember when JK flew to ZRH code-sharing with LX, you could end up buying an LX ticket and get stuck in that horrible leg-room, BOB service and lack of friendly service... sad but true.

Yeah, always annoying when a codeshare is of lesser standard

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 8):
I really enjoy the MD C class seating, really nice to have those open for all passengers, I bet you were looked on envy by some other customers.

There were a few envious looks!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 9):
Great trip report as usual!

Thanks

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 9):
It seems everyone is going to Siciliy. My folks, a few friends, a couple of co-workers. Maybe I should start planning too.

Maybe you should!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 9):
Yeah, LIN is mostly aimed at O&D, so no transit. Similar to LCY.

I guess that's a good enough reason...it looked like quite a few people were making connections though, and certainly more than in LCY



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 18505 times:

Hi, Gabriel,

great pictures from Palermo. I like these city, too, also when it´s a somewhat special place.
Good to follow you´re experience on the different AZ companies and also you´re airport experiences.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 18427 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):

great pictures from Palermo

Thanks Markus!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
Good to follow you´re experience on the different AZ companies and also you´re airport experiences.

Yeah, it was nice to try something different from LH or BA for a change!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27255 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 17817 times:

Hi Gabriel ,

As usual nice report and read. LGW has managed to grab alot of varied carriers and its great to see. Seems the new owners took their task seriously and LGW was kept at bay when BAA owned it. Ive been very impressed with the way LGW has gone.

Nice AZ pics. I love the MD80 2-2 J class seating . I flew in exactly the same style years ago from DUB .

Interesting destination pics and food too .  

Thanks for the report.

Regards

Philip  


User currently offlineWidebodyroga From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 613 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17623 times:

Splendid report. Nice to see that your first experience with AZ wasn't as traumatic as it was for the majority of the rest of us  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The obvious feature of the seat on the place where a TV should go%u2026.were these ever installed on this bird. Why were they removed, or never installed? Would have been nice to have, but I can live without it for 90 minutes.

Weird. The only AirOne A320 I have been on had the monitors installed. It was EI-DSU I believe.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was hoping to get a Smart Car, but we ended up with a Panda. There is a bit of a disagreement over the price of an extra driver (my Expedia confirmation said EUR 4/day, whilst Sixt insisted it was EUR 8). I paid up in the end as I just wanted to get to the hotel. On my return I sent Expedia an email about it. I was very surprised to get a call a few days later from Expedia Head Office USA (maybe a quasi-perk of the still uninitiated UK Expedia® Elite Plus™ programme) saying that under the circumstances, they’d refund me the EUR 8. Whoop!

How nice. Hats off to your persistence. I wish I was like that. I usually just let it go.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The Cappella Palatina in the Palazzo dei Normanni

Interesting. The interior of this particular temple looks very Orthodox-y.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Wonderful food and drink

*Real* italian food is exceptional and your photos certainly show that. Too bad that the kind of italian food you find outside of Italy is so bad in comparison.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Roughly halfway through the flight, one of the friendly cabin crew brought a single lady up to the empty row behind us. From eavesdropping the conversation, it seems like the lady was a very nervous flyer, and the guy was trying to comfort her a little. He sat with her for about 10 minutes just chatting about various things. Nice touch.

That's so very nice of them. I wish all crews showed this kind of attentive behavior.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Ulisse Magazine

Hopefully this time it was up to date? Last time I read it (Nov 2010 edition) it had a whole article on the construction and upcoming (!) completion of a new skyscraper in Chicago, when that skyscraper had been cancelled since 2008.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
“We would like to inform you that it is company policy to consider the facts including the period of delay before delivery of the baggage and the costs claimed to have been incurred in consequence. Alitalia reimburse 50% of claimed costs in reference to toiletries and clothing expenses.”

That's preposterous. Who came with this policy? Ah, yeah, Alitalia did.

Really enjoyed the photos of Palermo. I love places with such a rustic appearance.

Thanks for sharing,

WBodyroga



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17609 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):

As usual nice report and read

Thanks Phil

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Nice AZ pics. I love the MD80 2-2 J class seating . I flew in exactly the same style years ago from DUB .

Was that in C, or Y in C seats?

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Interesting destination pics and food too .

Glad you liked them

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
Splendid report

Thanks!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
Nice to see that your first experience with AZ wasn't as traumatic as it was for the majority of the rest of us

Yes, that a relief!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
How nice. Hats off to your persistence. I wish I was like that. I usually just let it go.

That was the funny thing, I only sent them one email saying I was quite "dissapointed". The next thing I knew HQ was on the phone....

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
*Real* italian food is exceptional and your photos certainly show that. Too bad that the kind of italian food you find outside of Italy is so bad in comparison.

Yes, real Italian food is amazing!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
Hopefully this time it was up to date? Last time I read it (Nov 2010 edition) it had a whole article on the construction and upcoming (!) completion of a new skyscraper in Chicago, when that skyscraper had been cancelled since 2008.

Haha

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 14):
Thanks for sharing,

No problem!



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User currently offlineCaptainRed From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 715 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 17424 times:

Hi Gabriel,

nice report again about your travels. Good to read something about Palermo as well, last year I had planned a short trip to PMO as well, but unfortunately had to cancel it because I got sick a few days before. Now I know what I have missed, judging from your pictures it must be a very interesting city, also with great food (but then it is Italy after all). Looks like I have to try again to get there.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The first two were Air One with an “AP” code, the 3rd operated with a “VE” code with “Vola Windjet” as the operating company on an AZ painted MD80, and the final leg as an “XM” code operated by CAI, also on an AZ painted plane….how confusing to the average passenger.

Indeed confusing, and similar to my experience with Alitalia. Had one flight with them that was shown as an AirOne flight operated by AZ on the AZ webpage, then at the airport it was shown as an AZ flight operated by AirOne.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Belavia never flew there though.
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And Air Nigeria again
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The new Hong Kong Airlines

Wow, seems like there is some really interesting traffic there at LGW.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Views…it was a little too cloudy for good views of the Alps

Still you managed to get some nice pictures.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The driving wasn’t as awful as I expected, but still not quite up to the gentlemanly conduct of the Home Counties

Next time try Rome   ...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Before long, we pulled alongside our MD80…doesn’t it look great!

Yeah, indeed, always great to fly a Mad Dog.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
a glass of water and a napkin

What a great service   ...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Instead Linate was large and old, with very drudgey architecture.

Yeah, LIN is not the nicest of airports around, I didn't like it either.

Sorry to hear about the lost baggage of your friend and that they didn't even properly give a compensation for it, good that your friend wrote a letter of complaint about it.

Greetings
CaptainRed


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8578 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 17206 times:
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Hi GC,

Nice report and pictures, Palermo looks lovely, another place on the must visit list!

Congrats on getting on an MD-80, getting increasingly rare these days.

Cheers

Mark



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User currently offlinepalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1223 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 17167 times:

Hi G

Very nice report - thanks for posting this one. Looks like your AZ experience was generally positive too.

Some great snaps at Palermo. Feels like it's somewhere I would also like to visit. Great to see an MD80 flight was included. I would definitely fly AZ again to try and get on one of these now increasingly rare birds.

LIN is certainly an "experience". I wish they would raise the ceilings - it felt so claustrophobic!

Thanks again - Palmjet



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 17163 times:

Thanks for the replies!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 16):

nice report again about your travels

Thanks!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 16):
Good to read something about Palermo as well, last year I had planned a short trip to PMO as well, but unfortunately had to cancel it because I got sick a few days before. Now I know what I have missed, judging from your pictures it must be a very interesting city, also with great food (but then it is Italy after all). Looks like I have to try again to get there.

Shame you missed PMO...you'll have to try again soon!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 16):
Wow, seems like there is some really interesting traffic there at LGW.

Yes, there is quite a bit now

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 16):
Still you managed to get some nice pictures.

Thanks

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 16):
What a great service ...

Well, better than nothing

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 17):

Nice report and pictures

Thanks Mark

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 17):
Congrats on getting on an MD-80, getting increasingly rare these days.

Yes, was good to get, esp in Business

Quoting palmjet (Reply 18):
Very nice report - thanks for posting this one. Looks like your AZ experience was generally positive too.

Thanks! Yes, Az wasn't too bad

Quoting palmjet (Reply 18):

Some great snaps at Palermo.

Thanks!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 18):
LIN is certainly an "experience". I wish they would raise the ceilings - it felt so claustrophobic!

Yeah, it's not a very nice airport is it?



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User currently offlineMSS658 From Belgium, joined Oct 2010, 2474 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 17082 times:

Hi Gabriel

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing.
AZ seems to get better and better. Just too bad about the luggage mishap.
It looks like they are taking away the intended PTVs on the 320 fleet.
The MD80 still looks nice in the classic livery.

Greetings
Marc



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 16970 times:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
Nice trip report, thanks for sharing.

No problem Marc, glad you liked it

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
AZ seems to get better and better

Indeed it does

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
Just too bad about the luggage mishap.

Yeah, still awaiting the final outcome of that

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 20):
The MD80 still looks nice in the classic livery.

Yes, lovely plane



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User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3019 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 16728 times:

Excellent as usual Gabriel!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Plenty of ways from London to Milan (courtesy of GC mapper):

Ah yes, last year I'd booked STN-CGN-BLQ on 4U, only for them to cancel so I did LGW-TRN then a train. Not idea for a weekend trip but I had a few hours leeway  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We headed through security (not too long a queue), and then to Café Rouge to get some lunch. Thanks TupolevTu154 for the restaurant with a view advice!

Nice tip!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Air One has an interested no-frills approach to onboard seating

Looks convoluted...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Once there we asked again for the transfer desk

My one and only AZ trip was LHR-MXP-CAI/TLV-FCO-LHR. Fortunately I didn't need the transfer desk! I was surprised at how easy it was there, despite the weird colours around the airport!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
we drove into Palermo

Some lovely pictures there!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
I selected row 4 with a greyed out middle seat between us, and crossed my fingers.

Nice to get a "free" upgrade  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
KM

Not only did I fly 9H-AEQ on my only trip to Malta, but it was also the bird we spotted at TXL  

Thanks for the report!

signol



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User currently offlinesultanils From Belgium, joined Mar 2010, 1772 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16683 times:
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Hi Gab,

Nice weekend getaway report. I'm glad to see that the recent flow of Alitalia reports here sees the airline performing quite well. Except for the lost bag of course, I'm curious to what the outcome will be with a possible refund. Good thing you scored the MD as well and that you got to sit in the C section. I also had this once on a BRU-FCO some 10 years ago.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
My flights therefore looked like this

Quite a subtle difference in lines there.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
An African newcomer across the way
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And Air Nigeria again

At the first photo I was wonderint which one you meant, but the second photo shows it clearly!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The aisle seats in rows 4-11 cost EUR 3

They seems to describe these seats with something like 'freedom of movement', quite funny. No a.netters seats for sure!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Nice Air One decal…very LHesque

I hadn't noticed it if you hadn't told it: the difference is subtle to me.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Nice airport views after take off

Excellent overview photo.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The driving wasn’t as awful as I expected, but still not quite up to the gentlemanly conduct of the Home Counties : )

Ha ha, for me as a Belgian it is difficult already to drive properly in Italy - their driving is ridiculous at times - let alone if you have to drive on the other side of the road  

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
doesn’t it look great!

It does!

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User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16673 times:

Hi Gabriel

Thanks for the interesting report. I've never been to Palermo despite the proximity to Malta. It's also good to see you did not have to go hungry on your trip. That food looks absolutely gorgeous!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Nice Air One decal…very LHesque

God I'm thick. It only just dawned on me that the Air One bird is also a crane like the Lufthansa one...!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The flight this Friday evening is completely full as far as I can see. The crew are also a bit aloof upon boarding, but in an unconscious effort of cheer everyone up, they all seem to be part of a Village People tribute band. Handlebar moustaches and muscles galore from the four blokes mincing up and down the aisle. Very amusing.

I really had to laugh at this, sounds quite...interesting, very camp and oh so Italian. When I was in Buenos Aires some years back, I had the Alitalia crew staying at the same hotel. The blokes all came down to breakfast in their uniforms and from the way they were strutting around the breakfast room you could have thought they were about to start signing autographs!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
I’m not sure if there was also boarding available under the tail or not, but with seats in row 4, it wouldn’t have made sense anyway.

Gabriel, were you feeling quite alright? You missed an opportunity to board through the back stairs! Do you remember if the APU was running?

Thanks for posting, Gabriel. Rather a good read and great pictures.

Cheers,
William


User currently offlineFlyingFinn76 From Finland, joined Jun 2009, 1706 posts, RR: 30
Reply 25, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16678 times:

Hi Gabs,

No resting on your laurels for you after your mega trips this spring, eh? But anyway a nice account on the quick trip to Sicily. I was there when I was around 15 or so, we stayed at a resort but did a daytrip to Palermo which I remember was a nice, large and very chaotic city. I've been meaning to go back for quite some time now, but well... you know there are plans and there are plans and then there is too little time...  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Like many of my European adventures nowadays, this trip started with a few drinks with a friend.

Oh yes, Alcohol makes you more receiving to various crazy ideas  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And it’s a great name too…ali means wings in Italian….the Wings of Italy! How poetic!

Really, I didn't know that.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Unfortunately the easy to find flights (on all search engines) for around GBP 115 rtn showed false availability. Once you clicked on the flights, the prices shot up.

I hate it when that happens. Quite a few times I've planned a nice itinerary, booked some parts of it only to find out that the other flights I planned to take will cost quite a bit more than I thought they would!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Ironically, none of the four flights would actually be operated by Alitalia proper, despite all having AZ flight numbers. The first two were Air One with an “AP” code, the 3rd operated with a “VE” code with “Vola Windjet” as the operating company on an AZ painted MD80, and the final leg as an “XM” code operated by CAI, also on an AZ painted plane….how confusing to the average passenger.

I can undestand the first two flights, but again the Vola Windjet MD-80 baffles me. Looks like yet another way to introduce cheaper labor.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I found a cheap B&B in the centre of town, and then hired a car via Sixt/Expedia. We were all set.

What did you need the car for? Judging from your description and photos you stayed in the city all the time and used it just to get to and from the airport? You know there's a train connection (methinks this is quite a novelty for Sicily!) and of course plenty of buses too?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We headed through security (not too long a queue), and then to Café Rouge to get some lunch. Thanks TupolevTu154 for the restaurant with a view advice!

Yes, Cafe Rouge has very nice views. The food isn't bad either.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As such, if you’re sat near the front, there is plenty of space to spread out after take off.

Yes, I learned this first hand on my flight last year. Still the concept must be really confusing - I always think the airlines should not bother discriminating passengers like this, it is bound to create lots of confusion both onboard and during the preflight process. For example the new AY "experiment" they are running on HEL-MAN calls for all economy service to be BOB, except for passengers connecting to/from Asia. I just wonder how they will pull that off - by giving the passengers a "get out of prison for free" card they can trade in to BOB stuff or what? No good.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The obvious feature of the seat on the place where a TV should go….were these ever installed on this bird. Why were they removed, or never installed?

Maybe Alitalia sold them to get some more capital? Come to think of it I don't think they've ever been on.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Belavia (just for you FlyingFinn!). Over the years a lot of Eastern European airlines have moved from LHR to LGW. CSA, Malev, Adria. Belavia never flew there though.

Thanks mate. But you know, calling the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovenia "Eastern Europe" will get you a lot of flame from those people! They are not (and certainly their national psyche doesn't feel like) Eastern, even though they just happened to be left on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain by the bigger players...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And Air Nigeria again

Ahh thanks, I was wondering what that tail was on the earlier photo.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Pricey

Ryanair is worse. Easyjet about par I think.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Route map

Interesting for them to put the lowest fare there too.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Nice Air One decal…very LHesque

Well before Alitalia took and they were competitors LH had a stake at Air One. That is why they ran LH Italia for a while after loosing Air One...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I love the Eurofly livery…grey and red go well together

The livery might be nice but the airline is horrible. I still have very bad memories of the crap legroom on my flight with them.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The depressing underground bussing area in MXP. At least it wasn’t too busy

I once spent some three hours there waiting for my flight. I had lounge access, but the incompetent check in agent failed to inform me that the airside lounge was closed for renovations and I should've used the landside one. Not exactly something I want to find out once I'm back airside... Welcome to Malpensa, or Italy for that matter!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
(why are so many Italian aircraft registering in Ireland? Aren’t long term leased aircraft at least registered in the main country normally).

Ahh, I've asked this very same question from somebody who works in the industry. The thing is that airplanes fall under the jurisdiction of that country where they are registered in (hence the prefix in the registration). Certain countries are notorious for making it very hard to e.g. impound planes in the case of unpaid lease bills - this is something that must be done by that country's authorities. Because of this leased planes to certain countries are usually not placed in the registry of that country so that different laws will apply. Since most (all?) of the leasing companies in Europe are based in Ireland (thanks to their lovely corporation tax rules) this means that those planes are placed on the registry of the country where their owner is registered in - i.e. Ireland. Italy and Russia are two countries where you see a lot of this, but there are others.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Handlebar moustaches and muscles galore from the four blokes mincing up and down the aisle. Very amusing.

Wow, you felt right at home there, didn't you!?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I’ve had my bag lost more times than I care to recall (OS x 1, AF x 1, BA x 2) so knew what to do

Well you cared to recall after all.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
saying that under the circumstances, they’d refund me the EUR 8. Whoop!

Very nice customer service actually. Well done.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
With that all sorted, we drove into Palermo. This was the first time I’d driven in Italy. The driving wasn’t as awful as I expected, but still not quite up to the gentlemanly conduct of the Home Counties : )

Now that you got your cherry popped you are ready to try driving in Naples...  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The catacombs – amazing place, although not for those of a sensitive nature

Hey, that looks just like a place I would visit.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Wonderful food and drink

Well, it is Italy after all. BTW I don't blame you for drinking Beck's - all the Italian beers I've tasted have been more or less crap.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Inflight service was more than on Air One, but by no stretch of the imagination would it be called generous….a glass of water and a napkin

That's more than many airlines give you nowadays. Just got off a Delta flight where the only service was repeated announcements about various things  .

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Instead Linate was large and old, with very drudgey architecture.

Well it is the pits, a very dingy and depressing place.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
XM 5248, sold as Alitalia AZ 7898

Hmm, I can't really figure out the logic in this. For all accounts it is an Alitalia flight - AZ plane, AZ service concept, everything. Well maybe this has something to do with it being staffed by Alitalia Express staff who of course get paid less than mainline. Union rules and labor contracts are so hard to understand.


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Reply 26, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16633 times:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
I can undestand the first two flights, but again the Vola Windjet MD-80 baffles me. Looks like yet another way to introduce cheaper labor.
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
Hmm, I can't really figure out the logic in this. For all accounts it is an Alitalia flight - AZ plane, AZ service concept, everything. Well maybe this has something to do with it being staffed by Alitalia Express staff who of course get paid less than mainline. Union rules and labor contracts are so hard to understand.

Hi Flying Finn,

I was stalking this thread, and I can solve this dilemma.

Both flights had to do with LIN. Linate being a slot-restricted airport, AZ has to use different AOCs (hope that's the right acronym!) to operate so many flights into this airport... Each airline only can get so many slots. In fact, I hear this is the only reason AZ keeps many of these AOCs current...

Since LIN is a business-oriented airport, I guess it's worth it!


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 27, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 16494 times:

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting signol (Reply 22):
Excellent as usual Gabriel!

Thanks

Quoting signol (Reply 22):
Looks convoluted...

Very

Quoting signol (Reply 22):
Some lovely pictures there!

Thanks!

Quoting signol (Reply 22):
Nice to get a "free" upgrade

Always nice!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):

Nice weekend getaway report.

Thanks Nils

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Except for the lost bag of course, I'm curious to what the outcome will be with a possible refund.

Yes, I'm also curious to find out

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
I hadn't noticed it if you hadn't told it: the difference is subtle to me.

Subtle but definately there

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Ha ha, for me as a Belgian it is difficult already to drive properly in Italy - their driving is ridiculous at times - let alone if you have to drive on the other side of the road

Well, it doesn't take too long to get used to the wrong side of the road

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 24):

Thanks for the interesting report.

No problem

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 24):
It's also good to see you did not have to go hungry on your trip. That food looks absolutely gorgeous!

Very tasty food to be had in Siciliy

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 24):
I really had to laugh at this, sounds quite...interesting, very camp and oh so Italian. When I was in Buenos Aires some years back, I had the Alitalia crew staying at the same hotel. The blokes all came down to breakfast in their uniforms and from the way they were strutting around the breakfast room you could have thought they were about to start signing autographs!

Ha, funny crew!

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 24):
Gabriel, were you feeling quite alright? You missed an opportunity to board through the back stairs! Do you remember if the APU was running?

Well, I didn't want to go wondering over the tarmac to find the door closed!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
But anyway a nice account on the quick trip to Sicily.

Thanks

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
Really, I didn't know that.

Just spreading the word!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
What did you need the car for? Judging from your description and photos you stayed in the city all the time and used it just to get to and from the airport? You know there's a train connection (methinks this is quite a novelty for Sicily!) and of course plenty of buses too?

Well, we looked at the economics of it, and it worked out about the same price to hire a car as get two returns on the train. Plus we wanted to get out of the city for a bit, which we did.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
Maybe Alitalia sold them to get some more capital? Come to think of it I don't think they've ever been on.

Strange to decide to install them on a shorthual bird in the first place

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
Thanks mate. But you know, calling the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovenia "Eastern Europe" will get you a lot of flame from those people! They are not (and certainly their national psyche doesn't feel like) Eastern, even though they just happened to be left on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain by the bigger players...

After googling "Eastern Europe" it tuns out there are an awful lot of definitions....

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
The livery might be nice but the airline is horrible. I still have very bad memories of the crap legroom on my flight with them.

Good to know

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
Ahh, I've asked this very same question from somebody who works in the industry. The thing is that airplanes fall under the jurisdiction of that country where they are registered in (hence the prefix in the registration). Certain countries are notorious for making it very hard to e.g. impound planes in the case of unpaid lease bills - this is something that must be done by that country's authorities. Because of this leased planes to certain countries are usually not placed in the registry of that country so that different laws will apply. Since most (all?) of the leasing companies in Europe are based in Ireland (thanks to their lovely corporation tax rules) this means that those planes are placed on the registry of the country where their owner is registered in - i.e. Ireland. Italy and Russia are two countries where you see a lot of this, but there are others.

Ph, that makes some sense I guess

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
Wow, you felt right at home there, didn't you!?

Sorry!? I don't have a handlebar moustache (fortunately) or muscles galore (unfortunately) (yet).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 25):
Hey, that looks just like a place I would visit.

I imagine it would appeal to you!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 26):
Both flights had to do with LIN. Linate being a slot-restricted airport, AZ has to use different AOCs (hope that's the right acronym!) to operate so many flights into this airport... Each airline only can get so many slots. In fact, I hear this is the only reason AZ keeps many of these AOCs current...

Thanks, I think I read that somewhere before, makes sense I guess.



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User currently offlineakhmad From Netherlands, joined Sep 2005, 2487 posts, RR: 53
Reply 28, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 16350 times:

Hi Gab,

I cannot help thinking of The Godfather movie while reading your report.  


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And it’s a great name too…ali means wings in Italian….the Wings of Italy! How poetic!

Good to know! I thought that Alitalia meant the Italian way.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Normally Air One charges for baggage, but as we had booked via AZ, we got a 20kg luggage allowance.

All the better.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The lady at the desk said she couldn’t issue our MXP-PMO passes (I’d checked in online, but not printed out), and that we’d have to pick them up in MXP…annoying.

Odd!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
to Café Rouge to get some lunch

Thanks for the tip.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The first 3 rows are sold as an extra space area (same legroom, but the middle seat is unsold. Seats here cost EUR 30 to reserve

I am not sure whether I would fork out the EUR 30 extra.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Route map

Interesting to see the fare ex AMS is higher than UK.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Finally I went into the lounge to ask, and was told there was no such transfer desk, and we should get our boarding pass at the gate when it was manned.

They must have been joking. No transfer desk on an international airport of that caliber? Come on!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Thankfully the doors remain open so I can take some photos

And no one bothered your photo-taking.  


Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
The catacombs – amazing place, although not for those of a sensitive nature

It reminds me of the catacombs of Toraja on Sulawesi.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Wonderful food and drink

Yummy!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Mmm, limoncello

It seems to be the hippest drink of this year summer.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
but they were EUR 6 each

Ridiculous!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
our MD80…doesn’t it look great!

Absolutely. How I wish to see MD80 at my hometown’s airport!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
s hoped, we were indeed sat in the old business class seats.

It reminds me of my first ever intra-European flight. With AZ that was in 2001. My partner Herman and I got assigned old business class seats while flying Y.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Roughly halfway through the flight, one of the friendly cabin crew brought a single lady up to the empty row behind us. From eavesdropping the conversation, it seems like the lady was a very nervous flyer, and the guy was trying to comfort her a little. He sat with her for about 10 minutes just chatting about various things. Nice touch.

What a contrast to your outward flight. These tiny gestures just uplift you as passengers. Kudos to the crew!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
“We would like to inform you that it is company policy to consider the facts including the period of delay before delivery of the baggage and the costs claimed to have been incurred in consequence. Alitalia reimburse 50% of claimed costs in reference to toiletries and clothing expenses.”

Company policy may differ, but this minimalistic solution is just unheard of.


Thank you for sharing exciting journey to Palermo.

Best regards,
Suryo.  



Friends forever
User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 29, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 15927 times:

Thanks for the comments Suryo!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
I cannot help thinking of The Godfather movie while reading your report.

Did you go and watch it after reading?!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
Good to know! I thought that Alitalia meant the Italian way.

I thought it meant "To Italy"

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
Odd!

Annoying!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
I am not sure whether I would fork out the EUR 30 extra.

Well, maybe it would be worth it on a long, fully booked flight to Moscow?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
And no one bothered your photo-taking.

Nope, but then again, I was still inside the bus

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
It seems to be the hippest drink of this year summer.

It's SO tasty!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
It reminds me of my first ever intra-European flight. With AZ that was in 2001. My partner Herman and I got assigned old business class seats while flying Y.

It's nice to get a little upgrade now and again

Quoting akhmad (Reply 28):
Company policy may differ, but this minimalistic solution is just unheard of.

Yes, not very good customer service



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User currently offlineadamspotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2011, 1169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 30, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15448 times:
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Hi Gabriel,

Another great report as usual. Air One looks OK and Alitalia look much better as to what I used to hear of them, I might try them out some time soon!
Great spotting pictures and great pictures of Palermo!

cheers,
Brendan // adamspotter


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 31, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15135 times:

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):

Another great report as usual.

Thanks Brendan

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):
Air One looks OK and Alitalia look much better as to what I used to hear of them, I might try them out some time soon!

Yeah, Air One was ok, and AZ better than expected

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 30):
Great spotting pictures and great pictures of Palermo!

Thanks! Palermo is a nice place for the weekend



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 32, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15036 times:

Great report Gab, love the seats on AZ MD82, sadly my flight on such last week was in full YCL layout so no 'old business' in front   Not sure about Air One's pitch either, seems quite little, knowing you are not the tallest guy haha.

Lovely pictures all around so that makes a good read!

Eric



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6648 posts, RR: 55
Reply 33, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14881 times:

Hi Gabriel!

Thanks for another great report with nice pictures !

Always great to try new carriers and even better that you are going to Italy! Flights seem okay although legroom on Air One seems not so great but they are supposedly a low cost carrier so that's to be expected.

Great pictures from Sicily and I would love to go there some day.

Looking forward to your next report !

The777Man



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 34, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14679 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
Great report Gab

Thanks Eric!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
love the seats on AZ MD82, sadly my flight on such last week was in full YCL layout so no 'old business' in front

Shame you didn't get the nice seats

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
Not sure about Air One's pitch either, seems quite little, knowing you are not the tallest guy haha.

Ha, come on, I'm not that short!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
Lovely pictures all around so that makes a good read!

Glad you liked it!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
Thanks for another great report with nice pictures !

Thanks!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):

Always great to try new carriers and even better that you are going to Italy!

Yes, was nice to finally fly AZ

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
Great pictures from Sicily and I would love to go there some day.

Shame no one flies the 777 there!



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User currently offlinedeltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1061 posts, RR: 7
Reply 35, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14260 times:

Hi Gabriel!

Nice report just as usual! Good to see that AZ took well care of you, I can't really complain about them either after trying them myself for the first time recently.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We were then let onto the bus for the short journey to EI-DST (why are so many Italian aircraft registering in Ireland? Aren’t long term leased aircraft at least registered in the main country normally).

Not sure really about the reason, I'm sure it has something to do with money!
Anyway, that's one of the reasons I'm glad my AZ flight was on an I- registered MD80!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Mmm, limoncello

Tried it, didn't like it!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
At the top of the steps, I was greeted by a very friendly guy and pointed aft. As hoped, we were indeed sat in the old business class seats.

That's a really nice surprise. The MD80 I went on was 2-3 all the way.

Martin


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 36, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 13966 times:

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Nice report just as usual! Good to see that AZ took well care of you, I can't really complain about them either after trying them myself for the first time recently.

Yes, AZ were better than I had imagined they might be

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Not sure really about the reason, I'm sure it has something to do with money!

I'm sure it does!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Tried it, didn't like it!

Oooh, I love it!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
That's a really nice surprise. The MD80 I went on was 2-3 all the way.

It seems like most of the MD80s are now fully 2x3....guess we were lucky



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6903 posts, RR: 77
Reply 37, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13644 times:

Yet another interesting report, Gabriel!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Wonderful food and drink

Did you eat all that in a row???


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineokapi From France, joined Jun 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13101 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The obvious feature of the seat on the place where a TV should go….were these ever installed on this bird. Why were they removed, or never installed? Would have been nice to have, but I can live without it for 90 minutes.

I remember the first time I saw these monitors. The A320s had just been delivered and the first flights were on "flagship" route LIN-FCO at a time when the airline was still a LH Partner. A colleague and I could just not resist peeling off some of the covers. What a fun. I never saw the monitors on though. They are in use with some AZ rebranded aircraft if my memory's right for the sole purpose of moving route map.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Route map

I like the idea of having price tags on each destination.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As hoped, we were indeed sat in the old business class seats. My friend had never flown anything but economy before, so was quite happy with this minor upgrade.

If I'm not mistaken, AZ's old J-seats were amongst the most comfy ones you could find on intra-European flights. They are always a nice features, although I doubt we'll ever see any such thing back in the air.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Palermo itself was nice…the city has enough diversions for a weekend. I wish we’d have had a few more days to explore a bit of the countryside though…next time!

Your trip report is awesone. Sicily is by far one of my favorite area in Italy. Next time, try to land at PMO and leave from CTA or best, land at REG with a stunning à la Kai Tak approach and rent a car. It involves a ferry trip from mainland to Messina but well worth it.

I agree with you, the AZ branding is sometimes confusing. Add the usual AF/KL/DL (and in the past NW) tags along and you see FIDS going crazy with all that info.

Thanks for taking us with you...


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 39, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12585 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 37):
Yet another interesting report, Gabriel!

Thanks PH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 37):
Did you eat all that in a row???

Ha, not all of it! THat was a few meals!

Quoting okapi (Reply 38):
I like the idea of having price tags on each destination.

Yes, it's a nice indicator, but prices change a lot....

Quoting okapi (Reply 38):
If I'm not mistaken, AZ's old J-seats were amongst the most comfy ones you could find on intra-European flights. They are always a nice features, although I doubt we'll ever see any such thing back in the air.

Yes, shame there are very few "real" C seats in Europe these days

Quoting okapi (Reply 38):

Your trip report is awesone.

Thanks!



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User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 427 posts, RR: 8
Reply 40, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11267 times:

Hi G !
I read this adventure long time ago but just now to ask ...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I found a good deal for OU flights to Split, but came a bit stuck when looking for decent accommodation

and you didn't contact me for a help ...but honestly I do not understand what was the problem ... in Split you have two prominent hotel brands ( and Hilton is coming too ) more than 10 medium / small hotels with 4 stars or boutique status ...then flats/apartments /small hotels from luxury to basics plus A.net guest rooms and sofas hehe
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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3342 posts, RR: 12
Reply 41, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10177 times:

Quoting stipica (Reply 40):
and you didn't contact me for a help ...but honestly I do not understand what was the problem ... in Split you have two prominent hotel brands ( and Hilton is coming too ) more than 10 medium / small hotels with 4 stars or boutique status ...then flats/apartments /small hotels from luxury to basics plus A.net guest rooms and sofas hehe

Hmm, I guess when I was looking it was a busy/expensive weekend? or else I just wasn't very good at looking! I'll remember to ask you next time!



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